Billionaires Intervene in Wisconsin Supreme Court Race | Bill Murray

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Speaker 2 But first,

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Let's get into it with Indecision 2025 locally sourced edition.

Speaker 2 This Tuesday, there's an election for a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And I know what you coastal elites are thinking.
So what? They'll rule on what?

Speaker 2 Whether it's legal to marry your cheese or whatever the f ⁇ the issues are in Wisconsin? Well, yes, that is part of it.

Speaker 2 But also, it will determine whether abortion is legal in Wisconsin and how to redraw election districts, which could even determine which party controls Congress.

Speaker 2 And that's why the weather report for Wisconsin is calling for rain.

Speaker 5 $100 million, that's how much money could be spent on a state Supreme Court race in Wisconsin, and that would make it the most expensive judicial election in U.S.

Speaker 2 history.

Speaker 6 The race, pairing Judge Susan Crawford from liberal hotbed Dane County, against conservative Judge Brad Schimmel from Waukesha has big money outside donors like George Soros, J.B.

Speaker 6 Pritzker, and Elon Musk opening their wallets.

Speaker 7 Trump's close ally and financial backer Musk has gone all in on Schimmel's campaign. The tech billionaire and groups aligned with him have poured more than $20 million into the state.

Speaker 2 Now, I know $20 million sounds like a lot, but remember that Elon has over $300 billion.

Speaker 2 $20 million is like one of his kids. It means nothing to him.
But yes, this race has turned into a billionaire Royal Rumble. I mean, they're spending $100 million,

Speaker 2 which is obscene. I mean, you know, for that kind of money, you could have bought tens of thousands of Wisconsin residents their first ever salad.

Speaker 3 Instead,

Speaker 2 they're spending it on ads like this.

Speaker 8 This street's like any other in Wisconsin. But the new neighbor is a pedophile, thanks to Judge Susan Crawford's sweetheart sentence.

Speaker 9 How corrupt is Brad Schimmel? Schimmel gave a plea deal to a man caught with child porn.

Speaker 8 Crawford let the predator out in just four years.

Speaker 9 Brad Schimmel let a sex predator loose on our kids. Letting the rapist walk free.
While rapists walk free.

Speaker 8 Called Crawford's negligence utterly disgusting.

Speaker 10 That's disgusting.

Speaker 8 Criminals are praying Susan Crawford gets elected.

Speaker 9 If you want them to be safe, don't vote for him.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Why is SVU wasting his time in New York?

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 2 you got at least 20 seasons down there in Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 I mean, if you got this many pedophiles in Wisconsin,

Speaker 2 maybe the problem is Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 Because for me watching this on the outside, I'm like, should the rest of us put a wall up around Wisconsin to keep all the pedophiles in there?

Speaker 2 I mean, I know it will trap the kids in there too, but the kids are probably also pedophiles, so it should be fine.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's so many pedophiles that if you want to win, you should probably be making pro-pedophile ads.

Speaker 2 Because it seems like it's a big constituency over there. Like, why don't you do some outreach?

Speaker 2 But hey, I guess this is the story of American elections. Way too much money paying for way too many negative ads.

Speaker 2 In fact, Elon Musk is spending so much money on attack ads, he's not even paying attention to who the ads are attacking.

Speaker 2 An attack ad against Supreme Court justice candidate Susan Crawford is using a picture of a different Susan Crawford. An ad launched by a group backed by Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 Instead, he used a picture of Susan P. Crawford, who's a Harvard University law professor.

Speaker 2 Okay, to be fair, if I'm ever talking to a white woman over 50 and I forget her name, I just call her Susan Crawford. And

Speaker 2 I'm usually right like 80% of the time.

Speaker 2 But hey, maybe Elon just needs glasses. I mean, it could change everything.
He'd be like,

Speaker 2 oh my God, that cyber truck looks like shit.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 Elon isn't just spending all that money on attack ads. He's also dusting off a tactic from the 2024 election, voter self-checkout.

Speaker 11 The Elon Musk-backed America Political Action Committee asking Wisconsin voters to sign a, quote, petition in opposition to activist judges. The reward for each signature, $100.

Speaker 2 $100?

Speaker 2 Come on, Elon. It's going to take more than that for Americans to sell their souls to you.

Speaker 10 Elon Musk Political Action Committee has handed out $1 million to a voter in Wisconsin just for signing a petition.

Speaker 2 A million dollars? Come on, Elon. It would have taken way less for Americans to sell their souls to you, all right?

Speaker 2 I would have done it for $250.

Speaker 2 For more on the flood of billionaire money, let's go live to Wisconsin with our very own Grace Coulin Smith.

Speaker 2 Grace!

Speaker 10 Grace, Grace.

Speaker 10 Wait,

Speaker 2 why are you dressed like the Monopoly Man?

Speaker 13 Monopoly woman, Ronnie. It's 2025.
Women can do anything men can do, including beating up an old man and stealing his monocle and top hat.

Speaker 2 What, you beat up an old man? Is he okay?

Speaker 13 This race is really heating up, Ronnie. There's so much money pouring in right now.
They're not even being subtle about it. Elon Musk is shooting gold bars out of a t-shirt cannon.

Speaker 2 That sounds kind of dangerous.

Speaker 13 It is, but the people it didn't kill are filthy rich.

Speaker 10 Grace, this is awful.

Speaker 2 All right? Billionaires should not have this level of influence in local elections. Are you kidding?

Speaker 13 This is the best thing to happen to Wisconsin since Brett Favre's penis.

Speaker 13 Look at all this. They painted the whole city in gold.
The street lamps are crystal chandeliers. The birds are diamond encrusted.
Sure, they're dead, but they're beautiful.

Speaker 2 Okay, what, so Wisconsin doesn't mind the billionaires meddling in the elections?

Speaker 13 No, in fact, they're trying to get billionaire money in all their elections, no matter how small.

Speaker 13 This morning, I saw an attack ad ad that said Mary Beth Kowalski should not be senior class president at Sheboygan High

Speaker 13 because she failed her driver's tax.

Speaker 2 Oh, this is disgusting.

Speaker 13 I know, her mom still drops her off at school.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 no, no.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's outrageous for Wisconsin to shift its entire economy to depend on billionaire election money.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay.

Speaker 13 If you can think of a better way to transfer billionaire money back to society, I'm all ears.

Speaker 2 What about taxes?

Speaker 3 Huh?

Speaker 3 Taxes.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 3 Taxes. Speak up.
Taxes. One more time.

Speaker 12 Taxes. Two more times.

Speaker 2 Taxes, taxes. Taxes?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 13 Ronnie, I don't know what language you just slipped into, but I gotta go. That old man is waking up and I gotta finish the job.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 2 Don't hurt him. Grace Coolinsmith, everyone.
All right.

Speaker 2 When we come back, America goes after its 51st state, so don't go away.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the daily show.

Speaker 2 Look, I know there's a lot of Trump haters out there who are like, this guy can't focus.

Speaker 2 He's got the attention span of a golden retriever on cocaine, which sounds like a great idea for a movie, but it's not. And I call Dibs.
Well, you couldn't be more wrong.

Speaker 2 Okay, three months into his term, President Trump is still laser focused on the single most important issue affecting most Americans. Invading Greenland.

Speaker 14 After weeks of speculation that he wants to take over Greenland, President Trump is doubling down on his suggestion that the U.S. will play a larger role in the island's future.

Speaker 10 We need Greenland for national security and international security. So

Speaker 10 I think we'll go as far as we have to go. We need Greenland, and the world needs us to have Greenland, including Denmark.
Denmark has to have us have Greenland.

Speaker 2 You heard that right. Denmark has to have us need to have Denmark have us have Greenland.

Speaker 3 It's very clear.

Speaker 2 So last week, President Trump announced that he will be sending a special delegation to the future 52nd state, led by a very special woman who Trump is definitely vaguely aware of.

Speaker 15 New this morning, Second Lady Usha Vance will go to Greenland this week, the White House announced. National Security Advisor Mike Waltz will join Mrs.
Vance as part of the American delegation.

Speaker 10 She's a brilliant woman, she's a very nice woman, and she loves the concept of Greenland.

Speaker 2 She loves the concept of of Greenland. I mean, green, she loves green, and land, don't even get her started.

Speaker 2 Now, in some ways, Usha Vance is a great person for this trip. I mean, Greenland is pretty cold and lifeless.
So being married to J.D. Vance has left her very prepared.

Speaker 2 And if she was hoping a trip to Greenland would at least be a few days away from her boring husband, well, he had some bad news for her.

Speaker 16 Hey guys, it's Shady Vance, the vice president.

Speaker 16 and you know there was so much excitement around Usha's visit to Greenland this Friday that I decided that I didn't want her to have all that fun by herself and so I'm gonna join her.

Speaker 2 Yo JD give us some space, okay?

Speaker 2 If you want to know what she's up to, don't worry. She's going with Mike Waltz so the whole world is gonna know every move she makes.

Speaker 2 But with this all-star delegation, I'm sure Greenland is gonna roll out the red carpet for American imperialism.

Speaker 17 When the vice president and a high-level U.S. delegation flies in tomorrow, there will be no big grand welcome, no American flags flying in the streets, and no photo ops with locals.

Speaker 12 85% of Greenlanders do not want to be part of the United States, according to a recent poll. Would you like to be American?

Speaker 3 Oh, no, not really.

Speaker 17 The leaders here have been clear. Greenland is not up for grabs, and the American delegation is not invited.

Speaker 2 Well, they're holding out signs that say Greenland belongs to indigenous people. America is like, oh, you have no idea how much we don't care about that.

Speaker 2 Here's some measles.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 I mean, Greenland does not want to make America great again. In fact, they want the opposite.

Speaker 14 The idea of prompting protests, along with a different kind of MAGA hat, this one reading, Make America Go Away.

Speaker 2 Make America go away.

Speaker 2 I do love the tone. It's very bitchy.

Speaker 2 I mean, they should make one that says, oh, seriously, America, just fing kill yourself already.

Speaker 2 So basically, the people of Greenland really fing hate J.D. Vance in particular, which means, as always, Donald Trump is right.
They really are ready to be Americans.

Speaker 2 When we come back, some guy called Bill Murray will be joining me on the show, so don't go away.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to our Damn Show.

Speaker 2 My guest tonight is a comedy icon and an Academy Award-nominated actor whose new film is called The Friend. I can't believe I get to say this, but please welcome the legend Bill Murray.

Speaker 2 Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 3 Bill Morris. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Wow. Thank you so much for being the only guest who put the merch on.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well.

Speaker 10 I don't know. They told me it was business casual.
So

Speaker 10 business casual. You know, it's good.

Speaker 2 I know. We give it to everybody.
You know whatever does what they're told and wears it on stage?

Speaker 2 I also have to thank you for something else. I've never told this story on air, but I was lucky a couple years ago.

Speaker 2 I was doing shows with Dave Chappelle in Ohio, and they said, Hey, Ronnie, we have a plane for you back to New York, but do you mind dropping off Bill Murray along the way?

Speaker 2 And I was like, Are you kidding me? I get to go on a plane with Bill Murray. Does he want me on? And like, no, no, he's great.

Speaker 2 Yeah, totally, he wants you on. And you let me get on your plane so I could get out of Ohio.
So I really appreciate it. Thanks so much.

Speaker 10 Hey, that goes for all of you.

Speaker 2 And the whole time I was on the plane with you, you were very so generous. You were so kind.
You were very considerate.

Speaker 2 You were trying to time the flight so I wouldn't hit traffic in New York. And I couldn't believe

Speaker 2 you were talking to me. And the whole time I was like, oh my God, I'm living one of these legendary Bill Murray stories right now.
Like I'm in the story that I keep hearing about.

Speaker 2 And so there's all these stories about you kind of popping up around America.

Speaker 2 And I just want to ask, is this kind of philosophy of life, of this live-in-the-moment randomness, is that something you kind of carry into your self-expression?

Speaker 10 Well, I think most of our lives are accidental, as much as we think we're in charge. Most of it's accidental, and it's just how you

Speaker 10 are able to live with the accidents

Speaker 10 that you create, that you're part of.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 10 I kind of like the excitement of the... of the unknown and figuring, oh, well, now look what I've done.

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 10 it's been fun.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it is a conscious choice, right, to be present because not many people can do it. I mean, you've said yourself you tried to make yourself more available.

Speaker 10 Well, the conscious choices come and go. They come and go.

Speaker 10 But yeah, sometimes they are. So that's why there's sometimes a through line.
It looks like there's a plan.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but so I guess just in terms of Hollywood, applying that philosophy to this crazy thing we call show business, Hollywood.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 your approach to it has always really intrigued me because

Speaker 2 you're someone who I feel is, even though you're one of an icon in the Hollywood system, you still feel like

Speaker 2 you purposely take yourself outside the system. I mean, is that a conscious choice for you to be?

Speaker 10 Well, I don't think I'm any good to anyone if I'm just in the system all the time.

Speaker 10 You know, if you're not going out in the world and coming back with something, you're not doing any good to your family or your world.

Speaker 3 You know, you've got to go out there and eat it.

Speaker 2 No, I agree with that, but you acknowledge that's not a common thing for most of these guys in Hollywood.

Speaker 10 I despise the rest of them.

Speaker 10 No, it's, you know,

Speaker 10 you get excited, you know, you get excited making a career, and you start getting busy. And, you know, it's hard to,

Speaker 10 everything's a distraction. So everything can take you away from, you know, trying to like try to remember yourself and try to

Speaker 10 keep it together.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I mean, sorry to hop on it, but I just want to emphasize how strongly I feel this embodies your philosophy.

Speaker 2 And I feel like, because I think it was after Ghostbusters, I read that biggest movie in the world at the time, and you immediately kind of moved to France with your whole family and started studying at the Sorbonne just to get yourself out of it, I guess.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I knew I was a little too weak to,

Speaker 10 I mean, it was going to be a whole lot of fame, like walking down the streets of New York when you've already saved New York.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 2 it's

Speaker 2 tough.

Speaker 2 So, you know,

Speaker 10 that's, I mean, Aaron Judge doesn't have that problem.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 the other thing, because

Speaker 2 you had such longevity in the business, you've been around. I feel like you're one of the few guys who is actually qualified to talk about this.

Speaker 2 So right now, I feel like we keep looking at the past with these rose-tinted glasses, just with culture.

Speaker 2 I mean, forget politics or whatever, just culturally, when we talk about movies, and you were part of this incredible run of American comedy films.

Speaker 2 Like it was, you know, Caddyshaq, Ghostbuster, Scrooge. You had this run of just stripes of hits.
And we look back on that now as like this golden age in American comedy film.

Speaker 2 When you were in that era, were you looking back at previous eras and going, that was the golden age? Or were you like, no, I'm the king right now.

Speaker 3 This is the best.

Speaker 10 No, I wasn't really, I mean, I look back now more than I did then. Back then, we were just excited to be having a good time.
You know, People didn't take it so darn seriously.

Speaker 10 We would, you know, we change the script every day. We'd just go out there and have fun.
We'd knock ourselves out. And as long as you're tired at the end of the day, it means you worked hard.

Speaker 10 You know, you try to be exhausted at the end of every day and like always trying to find new things to do and just a way to work.

Speaker 10 And also it's a funny kind of living making movies.

Speaker 10 You're in a kind of a gypsy world with like 150 people for about three months and you live very intimately and then you never see each other again, maybe.

Speaker 10 So, it's very, you have to be very devoted to the whole process. Everybody's a part of the solution.
Anyone can fix any, any can find the answer to the problem. So, you're all really connected.

Speaker 10 So, it's that kind of living is very demanding. I love it.
I really do like movies. I like making.
I realized just recently, God, I really like making movies.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, good news for you.

Speaker 3 Everyone watching that movie.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, this movie's good.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 this movie is good, and I made another movie that's good called Riffraft that just came out. That's really weird.
Not like anything I've ever seen before.

Speaker 2 With Pete Davidson? It's with Pete Davidson.

Speaker 10 With Pete Davidson and Ed Harris and Gabby Union, a lot of good people. Jennifer Klutch is insanely funny in that movie, too.
Right. But this is a good movie.
This has got Naomi Watts.

Speaker 10 Naomi Watts in this movie, The Friend, it's the best performance I've seen by an actress in so long I can't even remember. It's unbelievable what she does in this movie.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well that deserves a rubber applause. I mean, I'm Watson's killer.

Speaker 3 I love him.

Speaker 2 I love how you started promoting this movie and then you had to quickly promote this other movie that you had.

Speaker 10 I was promoting that movie and I was promoting this movie while I was promoting that movie.

Speaker 10 I really like, you know, I want people to go to movie theaters and see movies in movie theaters because look at this, you're in a group of people, you know. we had a couple of years where

Speaker 10 we couldn't be in a group of people

Speaker 10 and it's like the it's the shared experience it goes back to the greeks you know it's a theater and you all get together and we share our humanity together yeah yeah it's the best it's really the best like moving together

Speaker 3 um

Speaker 2 yeah which brings me to this this other question i had like you were talking about the movies you're doing now the friend and riffraff i mean these are these are indie movies and i guess just talking about your career again there was a moment when after all these blockbusters and you were the biggest name on the planet you kind of like you went away for a bit and you shifted into this like you basically ushered in this new golden age of American independent film with lost in translation and you know all these in like Wes Anderson movies and I guess was that

Speaker 4 Was that planned?

Speaker 10 Ronnie, I swear to you, there's no plan. There is no plan.

Speaker 3 There's no plan.

Speaker 10 It's just, I just like to do what I like, you know?

Speaker 10 And it happened that those great people like Sophia and Wes Anderson and Jim Jarmish, these are people who have a real integrity, a real powerful integrity, and a real love and history of film culture.

Speaker 10 They wanted to make movies. And because...
you know, I always say like, I didn't embarrass myself too badly, so that's why they hired me, you know.

Speaker 2 And I know you're living in the moment and it's very Buddhist, and I appreciate that, and I try to live that philosophy, but I'm just saying you have to acknowledge at the time when you did these indie movies, you had a lot of clout and you were risking it whether you cared about that or not.

Speaker 2 You were risking it on these kind of unproven talented directors a lot. And was that a conscious choice to like, I want to give people a chance or were you just attracted to the material?

Speaker 10 Well, you know, Ron, when you see the script, you know, they're like, I got the script for Rushmore, which is Wes Anderson's movie, or Sophia's movie, Lost in Translation, or especially Rushmore.

Speaker 10 They said, you want to meet the guy? I said, no.

Speaker 10 You don't want to meet the guy? I said, no.

Speaker 10 He knows exactly what he wants to do. Let's go.
I didn't need to meet him. I was like, I'll see you at work.

Speaker 10 I don't need to talk. He knows exactly who he wants to do.
And Sophia's same way, and Jim Jarmer's same way. They know exactly what they want to do.

Speaker 10 Their script is so clear, like what their intention is, that you have great confidence.

Speaker 10 You know, when you're watching a good movie, you know it in a minute because you just feel so confident with the way the camera moves, the way everything goes. And that's how their scripts read.

Speaker 10 They read like this is, it reads like, this is storytelling. This is real storytelling.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 3 And you were,

Speaker 2 you know.

Speaker 10 Oh, okay.

Speaker 10 Someone's... Oh, we're going to applaud.

Speaker 10 Well,

Speaker 10 it's...

Speaker 2 It's fine to applaud every word this guy says, because

Speaker 3 I'm doing it too.

Speaker 10 Oh, I should say, but so these guys wrote a good movie. I should mention the reason we're here sort of, but

Speaker 10 David Siegel and Scott McGehee, they took this book written by a New York girl

Speaker 10 lady named Sigrid Nunez, who's really fun. You should have her on the show sometime.
She's really cool.

Speaker 10 They took her book, which is a great book, and it won the National Book Award, whatever, and made a great screenplay out of it. Well, whatever they give those writers, you know.

Speaker 10 But they made a great script and they directed this script together, and it's really good.

Speaker 2 No, it's a good movie. I watched it.
It's very touching. It deals with some pretty sad topics, a very dramatic role for you, I would say.

Speaker 2 There's a, I don't know, I check with the director. It's not a spoiler alert.
You're essentially dead most of the movie.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that's how they wanted it. Yeah, that's how they wanted it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You play a dead guy the whole movie, basically.

Speaker 10 Well, yeah, I'm alive some of the time.

Speaker 2 I'm alive some of the time. But it's very touching.
It's very dramatic.

Speaker 2 It's a very well-written story.

Speaker 10 It's really great. And

Speaker 10 there's an extraordinary. Naomi Watson's Great, and there's there's an amazing dog in the movie.
That dog

Speaker 3 is

Speaker 10 one of the most responsive animals I've ever seen in my life. When I first saw the first cut of the movie,

Speaker 10 you would see, something would happen in a scene and there'd be this sort of emotional moment, and you would see the dog react to it.

Speaker 10 And I kept going, and someone who saw the movie said, that's AI. That's not a real dog.
I said, that's the dog. The dog heard it and felt it and expressed it.
It's an extraordinary thing.

Speaker 10 It's a great Dane and it's an amazing animal.

Speaker 3 Okay, wow, okay.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and how do you stop them? How do you control them? No, you can't.

Speaker 3 They love you.

Speaker 2 Don't stop the love. Let the love come in.

Speaker 2 And I know you're going to, I know you didn't plan this, but one of the themes I noticed in your career is that you have this kind of...

Speaker 2 There's these animals that pop up in a lot of your films

Speaker 2 in a cool way, you know, like a groundhog day and the friend, the dog, there's the elephant, there's, you know, gophers.

Speaker 10 Gopher problems, yeah.

Speaker 2 So I don't know. Do you think there's something, I know you're not thinking about that, but is there something, what is it about these animals?

Speaker 10 It has something to do with, like, there's a lot of actors that just don't want to work with them. So I've got to find, I've got to go into the animal kingdom to get a co-star.

Speaker 10 But it works out okay for me.

Speaker 10 I don't know. It is funny that it keeps coming up like that.

Speaker 10 I should be worried.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 10 But the animals are the real ones. I mean, I got bit by the gopher in Groundhog Day.

Speaker 10 The gopher in Katty Shack blew the place up.

Speaker 10 This dog is really great. I rode an elephant in a movie that was fantastic.

Speaker 10 I'm not one of those guys, but I mean, this dog is smarter than many people that I've ever met.

Speaker 10 And the elephant I worked with was smarter than virtually everyone I've ever met.

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 10 their intelligence is,

Speaker 10 it's a mystery to us.

Speaker 10 And it's

Speaker 10 probably

Speaker 10 sort of for me, it's entry-level dealing.

Speaker 10 They say

Speaker 10 before you try to have children, you should have a pet, see if you can care for someone, take care of something, another creature.

Speaker 4 So probably

Speaker 10 I'm getting to it a little backwards, but

Speaker 2 I'll look for a pet elephant before. I don't have kids yet, but I'm going to try to find one.

Speaker 3 Starter, yeah.

Speaker 4 And I mean,

Speaker 2 you're such a, you came up, not only are you an American icon, but you came up through these iconic American institutions, like SNL and, you know, create Ghostbusters and Second City, Second City, all these institutions.

Speaker 2 And my question to you is, you know, it feels like these institutions

Speaker 2 kind of

Speaker 2 don't have this,

Speaker 2 don't have

Speaker 2 the kind of sheen that they used to have before in terms of attracting all the talent because now people are going to like TikTok and making a video on their toilet seat and you know and you know and I guess my question to you is that a do you like that that that is that a good thing that these institutions that people are on their toilet making videos and

Speaker 10 you know I there shouldn't be any limits about what can be funny you know I've I've been watching a lot of South Park lately. I never really got to watch a lot of South Park.

Speaker 3 It's brilliant.

Speaker 2 Yes. It really is.
South Park is brilliant.

Speaker 3 It really is brilliant.

Speaker 10 And they, you know, they can be scatological, they can be anything, but they're, but they do it in such an intelligent way that it's constantly amusing to me.

Speaker 10 But like in terms of like the sheen of the great institutions like Second City or Saturday Night Live, well, I, you know, I go back with them, like Saturday Night Live, when I was there, there were seven of us in the cast.

Speaker 10 Now there's, you know, a couple dozen. So there's a lot of people.
and Second City used to have like two casts.

Speaker 10 Now they have like a university.

Speaker 10 They've got like a seven-story building or something with like people taking the classes. So

Speaker 10 it's sort of it's not necessarily watered down.

Speaker 10 And like you can't say Saturday night is sort of watered down, but there's a lot more people and it's a little harder to get traction if you're one of the actors. But

Speaker 10 Saturday Night Live, any week there can be a sketch that's absolutely brilliant, just like in the early days.

Speaker 2 Any any week they can make one that's absolutely perfect but you know there's just the the group it's a little harder to wrangle because there's you know it's a herd they've got a herd of people yeah but i get i guess like my question because i revered american institutions american comedy institutions specifically that's why i'm here in america and i came here because my my dream was always to be take part in it in some way.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I'm lucky and I'm lucky that these guys give me a shot, but I guess I always saw the value of these institutions.

Speaker 10 Well, there's a huge value. If you can go through those things, if you can go from one to, I always used to say, if you can

Speaker 10 go through Second City and Saturday Night Live, you can do anything. Right.
You can do anything. Because the intent,

Speaker 10 I shouldn't say pressure, because I believe pressure is sort of imaginary, but the demand to be attentive to what you're doing.

Speaker 10 And every professional on Saturday Night Live, like every guy on a camera, every prop man, every single person is the top guy, the top woman in their field. So everybody's excellent.

Speaker 10 So if I screw up, he's looking at me like, nice,

Speaker 10 nice, you know? So, and

Speaker 10 that's what it was. You were in this environment of real,

Speaker 10 like a, like a, just a

Speaker 10 transformative

Speaker 10 spot where you had to.

Speaker 2 It was an elite pressure cooker. It was an elite pressure.

Speaker 10 Well, it wasn't exactly. I wanted to say pressure cooker, but I want people to get off of pressure.
I don't sort of believe in pressure. I think it's sort of imaginary.
I think it's just

Speaker 10 emotion that you can't control, and that's why it sort of gets up in you, and it feels like the top of your head's coming off.

Speaker 10 But it's really just there's a demand to show up, you know, and you have to relax, otherwise, that pressure comes up to your brain, and then you don't work so well.

Speaker 2 Well, speak of American institutions, Mr. Bill Murray, your institution.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Thank you so much for the movies you did.

Speaker 3 You are one of the people

Speaker 3 that my mom is excited I'm interviewing.

Speaker 3 If

Speaker 2 when we were kids in Manchester, New Hampshire, we would watch your movies. It brought my family together.

Speaker 2 If my dad was still around, he would have loved this. He would have loved that I got to meet you.

Speaker 10 Sorry, if my dad were around, he'd love it too.

Speaker 2 Thanks so much, Mr.

Speaker 4 Bill Murray, everybody.

Speaker 3 The friend opens in New York, March 28th, and nationwide, April 4th. Mr.

Speaker 2 Bill Murray, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

Speaker 2 That's us over the night.

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