TDS Time Machine | Emmy Nominated Guests

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Speaker 17 We are all huge fans of yours. Thanks.

Speaker 18 I'm a huge fan of yours, actually.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I think what you do is really important.

Speaker 19 Oh, that's very kind.

Speaker 17 True. Very kind.
I have loved you since Freaks and Geeks.

Speaker 19 Yeah, the good old days.

Speaker 11 Oh, my God.

Speaker 17 Forgetting Sarah Marshall is still, I think, one of the greatest rom-coms of all time. Still holds up.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 17 And nominated for an Emmy last year for season one of Shrinking. Now you're back at it, season two.
Yeah.

Speaker 17 You're not just starring in this show, you co-created it with Bill Lawrence and Brett Goldstein. How did that all come about?

Speaker 18 I'm really lucky. I got kind of a free ride on this one in that I got a call from Bill and Brett.

Speaker 18 They had both had an idea about a therapist going through a nervous breakdown and they got in touch with me and asked if I wanted to play the guy.

Speaker 18 Actually, the truth of the story is apparently I was on a walk and I was listening to, I know what I was listening to at the time. time, I was listening to Sign Seal Delivered by Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 18 And I was like, yeah, I was walking along kind of dancing to myself. And apparently the producer texted Bill Lawrence, just saw Jason Siegel.
He seems happy. Let's do a show with him.

Speaker 22 That's a true story.

Speaker 6 I love that.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah, life's not fair at all.

Speaker 17 I have got to start dancing in the streets more often.

Speaker 18 I couldn't agree more. I changed my life.

Speaker 17 I have to say, if I did that, I feel like people would be like, someone needs to pay that woman to stop moving like that.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I'm also a gigantic human being, and I live in a small town, and I kind of function like the town big bird.

Speaker 17 Just a joyful big bird.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I do what I can.

Speaker 17 Oh my god. Your chemistry is so good with Harrison Ford on this show.
You have this great, like, buddy comedy dynamic. How did you get him to sign on to do comedy?

Speaker 17 Did he see your full frontal scene in front of you?

Speaker 17 Because I'll be honest, it's a whole reason you're here today.

Speaker 23 Yeah, I accept that.

Speaker 18 I have not told this story, actually. It's funny you ask because I know you're joking.

Speaker 18 He was not that familiar with me. And so they said, you should watch Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
You'll get a sense of what this guy does. And apparently, he went off and he watched it.

Speaker 18 And he texted Bill Lawrence: I'm in.

Speaker 18 BTW, good dick.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 9 I have it framed.

Speaker 23 I have the text printed and framed.

Speaker 17 You could almost retire after that. Not that anyone wants you, but I mean, you got Harrison Ford to compliment your dad.

Speaker 21 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 Good job, too. You should have gotten that Andy.

Speaker 19 I know, yeah, I know.

Speaker 23 I know.

Speaker 17 Pretty cool, right? You also work with one of our daily show alums, the brilliant Jessica Williams.

Speaker 26 The best. Yes.
The best.

Speaker 21 She really is.

Speaker 18 I'm sure you know and relate, but like doing improv is a vulnerable thing.

Speaker 18 And there is a sense that

Speaker 18 if you go past the line, it can be embarrassing. If you get it wrong, it can be embarrassing.
And I have never had a co-star

Speaker 18 be so there to catch the ball and throw it back with the mentality of like, if this ship is going down, we're going down together. I will ride the Titanic down with you.

Speaker 18 And I just feel, I haven't felt this way since Paul Rudd. I feel like yeah, I feel like I have a teammate that I can depend on till the end.

Speaker 17 That's so cool. We love her.
We miss her very much. Does she ever talk about us?

Speaker 26 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 All the time.

Speaker 11 That's a lie. You're a lie.
You're a good actor, though.

Speaker 27 Yeah, no, she's not good.

Speaker 17 You play a therapist in this show. Are you good at giving advice? Do people in your life come to you and ask for guidance?

Speaker 18 That's a good question. I suppose they do.
Yeah, I get right at it. Like, I don't really have a sense of pride or shame.
Great. Yeah, so if someone asks me about my life, I kind of go right to it.

Speaker 18 And I think that opens the door of vulnerability so people can share stuff with me.

Speaker 17 Attention. I'm happy you said that.

Speaker 19 Okay, good. Oh, great.
You got some questions.

Speaker 17 We asked some people around the office to submit some questions that we would love for you to give advice on. Are you ready? Yeah.
Okay,

Speaker 17 real quick. F ⁇ Mary Kill.
Which of those is the worst to do at your sister's wedding?

Speaker 28 You have to pick one.

Speaker 23 Yeah, Mary.

Speaker 17 Mary, that is probably the worst thing you could do.

Speaker 17 How do you handle a coworker who keeps slacking off by only coming in one day a week?

Speaker 23 This is a very specific one, isn't it?

Speaker 29 It's very specific.

Speaker 18 Yeah, just tell them they're doing a great job.

Speaker 29 Great job. Yeah, great job.

Speaker 17 Great job. Mondays are good enough.

Speaker 19 Yeah. That's right.

Speaker 30 Mondays are going to have to be good enough.

Speaker 29 Stay in your land.

Speaker 11 That's right.

Speaker 17 Okay. That's right.
My boyfriend just got in.

Speaker 25 You're the anti-Garfield.

Speaker 28 I am. Yes.
Love Mondays.

Speaker 17 Love Monday. Okay.
My boyfriend just got in some legal trouble involving 1,000 bottles of lube at his house.

Speaker 17 Should I dump him?

Speaker 18 It's a good time. It's a good time to move on.

Speaker 17 All signs point to get out of the

Speaker 17 way. It's a shocking amount of lube.

Speaker 18 It really is. That's a forgetting Sarah Marshall amount of lube.

Speaker 21 That really is

Speaker 17 a great reference.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 17 This one totally anonymous. How can I be better friends with guests on the show that I find super interesting and have cool friends like Harrison Ford?

Speaker 30 Oh, that's the sweetest.

Speaker 25 It happened already.

Speaker 18 I feel like it happened already.

Speaker 17 Oh my god, it's almost as good as Harrison Ford complimenting my dick.

Speaker 28 That's good.

Speaker 11 It's right out there.

Speaker 32 Thank you.

Speaker 17 We can, we're friends now. For sure.

Speaker 17 You have just wrapped season two of Shrinking. What are you doing next?

Speaker 18 I'm leaving tomorrow to go to Finland to make an action movie.

Speaker 33 It's the coolest thing that you possibly could have said.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Well, I think I know what your superhero attribute is.

Speaker 26 What's that?

Speaker 17 Well, Harrison Ford said before.

Speaker 26 Yeah,

Speaker 18 I forget that I'm like a gigantic human being. And when I do this fight choreography, in my head, I'm like small.
I'm like Kermit in my own brain.

Speaker 18 But it turns out I look like a one-man killing machine when I'm doing these fight scenes.

Speaker 35 It's really exciting.

Speaker 17 So, are you allowed to talk about the premise?

Speaker 29 No, I can't.

Speaker 17 Okay, totally. But you go and you film tomorrow.

Speaker 29 Yeah, and I have abs right now.

Speaker 28 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 17 You say that like I feel like you want to show us your abs.

Speaker 11 Is that true?

Speaker 18 I promised Harrison could see them first.

Speaker 2 Yes, that is fair.

Speaker 17 Please give him my regards. I will.
Jason Siegel, everyone.

Speaker 34 Please welcome Coleman Domingo.

Speaker 34 Welcome, welcome.

Speaker 8 They love you. Did you feel it?

Speaker 34 Even in that clip, we show a 13-second clip and there's a beat, and the audience is silent, and the teardrops.

Speaker 36 That's some top-notch action, right?

Speaker 9 Colin Davago. Thank you so much.

Speaker 34 You are feeling in that moment.

Speaker 37 Oh, man. Thank you so much.
It's a beautiful film. It's a film about the power of art.
And when you pour it into a human being, what blossoms. You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 Yeah. That's what it's about.

Speaker 34 It's gorgeous. I wish you could just bottle the joy and the hope that's in this film and just pass it out to everybody here right now.

Speaker 10 You did get his gifts.

Speaker 21 That's great. That's great.

Speaker 21 You're going to get one. And you're going to get one.

Speaker 28 And you're going to get one.

Speaker 9 There's a little bit of joy underneath all your seats.

Speaker 35 It is a beautiful story, the transformative power of art.

Speaker 34 Did you have a moment for you as somebody who's been in the arts, on stage, in front of the camera?

Speaker 34 What do you think of when you think back on that?

Speaker 37 You know, listen, I was a very shy kid and just a nerd and I just felt like, you know, unpopular.

Speaker 37 And honestly, the moment I took a theater class, and it sounds so silly in a way, but I took a theater class and I felt like I came alive because I started to put myself in someone else's shoes and become other characters, and I really felt like I had a voice.

Speaker 37 And literally, I think my voice dropped into a deeper place. And usually, even when I teach acting, every so often I would teach acting, I teach people more than anything to have a voice.

Speaker 37 I think that's the most important thing that you get out of like learning theater in every single way. So that's the gift that I was given.
And that's what I like to share with other people.

Speaker 37 And that's why this film is very important to me. Because I feel like it's just about finding your voice, finding that you have feelings, and you can name them, and you can actually place them.

Speaker 37 And actually, it does some really good work in our film.

Speaker 37 It's based on our rehabilitation of the arts program at Sing Sing Prison, where these inmates were doing theater, and they really gained some skills that they didn't know that they even needed.

Speaker 37 And so much so that it just transformed their lives.

Speaker 34 Yeah, and a lot of the.

Speaker 34 Many of the actors in the film were a part of this program, were formerly incarcerated.

Speaker 37 90% of our cast are formerly incarcerated men. Is that right?

Speaker 21 90%.

Speaker 41 It's remarkable.

Speaker 8 What is it like?

Speaker 34 What is it like collaborating with folks who are formerly incarcerated compared to Hollywood Nepo babies?

Speaker 9 Like, were you just relieved to be like, oh, there's no Nepo babies on the call sheet today?

Speaker 28 Thank God.

Speaker 29 Thank God, finally.

Speaker 37 But you know what's kind of cool is that these guys had the lived experience of going through this, but also they were trained while they were on the inside.

Speaker 37 So i was working with actors yeah people who had training and had respect for shakespeare and you know we were just doing the work together so we sat at the table and we just collaborated in a very gentle way now these guys a lot of guys were in prison maybe 20 years 25 years and so But I love, it's a little subversive because when you see the film, you don't know really.

Speaker 10 Well, now you know because I told you.

Speaker 37 But you don't know really still because it feels like a documentary in some way, but then you realize that people are playing versions of themselves when they were on the inside.

Speaker 37 It's really incredible.

Speaker 34 When you're even working with like one of your close friends who you're sort of paired with within the film, Clarence, you have scenes where you're actually working about going over lines and what have you, which in some ways is almost meta as to the things that you were doing on the other side.

Speaker 37 All of it is so meta because a lot of these guys actually were, we filmed in two decommissioned prisons in upstate New York. And a lot of guys passed through those

Speaker 37 prisons.

Speaker 37 Downstate is one of those prisons that everyone sort of lands at, and then they're spread out throughout New York.

Speaker 37 But a lot of guys were like Clarence Macklin Jr., literally, he said he was in, we were filming one scene, and he knew, he said, oh no, there was a cell that I was in before.

Speaker 37 So it had that meta, but it also had a meta quality that my best friend Sean San Jose

Speaker 37 is actually my best friend. Is that right? Exactly.
I've known him for 30 years. He's another professional actor that I know from San Francisco.
So there is the meta of,

Speaker 37 that's why I think it feels like a documentary because there's something really real happening.

Speaker 37 And I feel like, you know, there's no real, the only agenda is looking into a person's humanity and filling it with art and hope. That's the agenda of the film.

Speaker 34 Yeah, you know what I found really remarkable.

Speaker 34 It's such a lovely film. It feels so,

Speaker 34 if the right word, it feels insular in that, like, I've seen many films that take place inside a prison that have so many external plots that act on these characters.

Speaker 34 And I think this movie lives so much within the characters.

Speaker 34 And there's a world that exists outside of it and consequences that exist within the prison itself, but it really sits with people kind of dealing with their own emotions and how they connect with them.

Speaker 37 Which is so rare because usually anytime you see a prison drama or something, it's all these tropes that you usually see. It's violence, it's a horror story.

Speaker 37 Now I'm not going to say it's not a horror story, but inside there are other people in there, people who are like trying to advocate for others, who are in the law library, trying to advocate for good food or make sure their fellow inmate is ready for their parole board hearing, or starting theater programs or gardening, or taking care of animals and things like that, and how it's having a profound effect on them.

Speaker 37 So much so, and I love to give this this out because a lot of people don't know like i didn't know about this until i started going on this journey that there is a three percent recidivism rate amongst members who go through this program compared to 60 nationwide so it's something that works is that right that's the truth yeah

Speaker 37 people a little bit of hope and a connection to one another yeah yeah but also i i like to say the film is actually really funny too which no one would ever believe when you when you think oh it's about like inmates you're like it's actually really funny these guys are doing some, first of all, we have a whole crazy play musical that we're doing on it.

Speaker 40 And that's based on, there's some little clips at the end.

Speaker 37 It's based on a real, it's called Breaking the Mummies Code.

Speaker 37 You have everything in there from mummies and Freddy Krueger and what. So you got these grown men putting on a play and watching them and their antics and rolling around on the floor and being silly.

Speaker 37 But also it brings up these really warm feelings. I feel like I know anyone that I know who's watched it, they're very surprised because they go in thinking it's going to be one thing.

Speaker 37 And they walk out feeling filled with so much hope and love for their fellow man. And it's a one, I think that's what we need right now.

Speaker 10 We need more warm feelings, right?

Speaker 28 We need those warm feelings.

Speaker 8 We do.

Speaker 34 So you're going to win an Oscar for this. Do you have your speech written?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 9 No? No. What do you do?

Speaker 37 Do you get a prep one?

Speaker 2 No. No.
You can't.

Speaker 9 You can't. I just feel it.
You're going to kill it.

Speaker 36 You're going to get to kill it, though, if you can help it.

Speaker 37 I just think it's in like, I don't know, it's something, I'm a little superstitious about that. Any award that I've ever won, a lot of times I'm working and I'm not able to to be at an award show,

Speaker 37 which I always feel like, well, maybe that's good because maybe I don't know I'm going to react like a weirdo or something.

Speaker 37 Or I'm at the award show and literally my publicist, she literally told me, she said, you didn't expect to win, did you? I said, I don't even think about winning.

Speaker 37 I just sit and I'm just, I'm happy to be there. I'm just with a big smile on my face, hugging and kissing on people.
And then I'm like, oh, wow, I got to get to the stage and say something.

Speaker 37 But then I try to trust that I'll be in the moment and I'll try to say something loving. I'll try to say something appealing to the moment and that's all I can do.

Speaker 37 But I don't want to, I'm not going to be standing there like, oh, I want to, you know, first thing, thank God.

Speaker 37 I'll thank God on my own. But I feel like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 36 That's personal.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you might want to. I'm not judging people who do that.
But I'm just saying that, like,

Speaker 28 wow.

Speaker 11 Wow.

Speaker 28 Wow.

Speaker 9 Things are really dark here. No, no.

Speaker 37 No, I think it's important, but that's private for me. For me, I think I like to have those private conversations and I'll say something to appeal to the moment.

Speaker 37 But I think, like, I'll thank you afterwards.

Speaker 29 Really? Yes.

Speaker 34 Okay, I appreciate that. It would mean more on stage.

Speaker 31 I will say, another fun thing, though,

Speaker 31 just say it.

Speaker 28 Structurally, it'd be nice for my family to see it as well. Okay.

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Speaker 40 So your dog Q series, Social Studies, is about the first generation of kids that grew up their entire lives with social media. And I hate social media for the record and I also hate kids and you

Speaker 40 you made me actually feel empathy for them in this show

Speaker 27 because

Speaker 40 like wait the because I went into this docu series thinking we're gonna see a bunch of like spoiled kids who are narcissistic who are on social media and they're just being total dicks but

Speaker 8 but instead Lo and behold,

Speaker 40 what we saw mostly is what struck me

Speaker 40 the strongest was these kids who you can can tell they feel like something is wrong with them being on social media and they are asking for help. And I didn't expect that.

Speaker 42 Absolutely. I think that's why a lot of the kids participated.
We started after COVID and the usage had gone way up to eight, nine, ten, twelve hours a day.

Speaker 42 And I think they felt very trapped by it, very affected by it, and were really interested in being in this long-term inquiry where we filmed them for one year and they gave access to their phones.

Speaker 40 Right, and the access of the documentary is incredible because you see them in the bedrooms, you see them using their phones. In some cases you see them like the cameras on as they're using it.

Speaker 40 Yeah, well. And how did you hack their phones?

Speaker 42 That's actually a really good question because some of the programs were very difficult. So first it was a technological problem I had to solve.
We hired an engineer.

Speaker 40 Anonymous. Anonymous to hack these kids.

Speaker 4 We hired an engineer to hack these.

Speaker 31 To hack these kids. One of the...

Speaker 42 No, the kids had all agreed to let us into their phones. That was the agreement.

Speaker 28 Really?

Speaker 42 That was the agreement.

Speaker 42 That was like the starting off because I realized when I started this project that we needed to know what was inside these phones to be able to do this social experiment about what is the impact.

Speaker 40 Of course, and you tricked them with candy.

Speaker 28 So, no, they had to.

Speaker 42 I talked to a lot of kids and their parents, and part of the ground rule was they needed to agree to do this.

Speaker 40 And they just let you in.

Speaker 42 They let you in. Well, it was a process because we really built trust and spent a lot of time with them through the year.
I mean, they definitely took it very seriously. They looked at my work.

Speaker 42 Their parents looked at my work. They didn't make the decision lightly.
But even so, in the beginning, we found out later they weren't sharing everything with us, but their trust grew and grew.

Speaker 35 Yeah, no shit. No one's sharing everything.

Speaker 42 But I was very transparent with everybody about what we were doing, and they had skin in the game. They wanted to participate.
But I still had to figure it out.

Speaker 42 technologically and I hired an engineer to help me because one of the programs in particular doesn't want you to download it. And the engineer couldn't figure it out.

Speaker 42 So my 14-year-old son ended up helping me hack into the.

Speaker 40 You turned to your son for tech support.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 40 But you got the access. The access is one thing.
But what you actually saw and what you are showing in this docu series is probably remarkable, I think. I mean, these kids are using social media.

Speaker 40 Like, so. Are these kids going to be okay?

Speaker 22 Are they okay?

Speaker 42 Well, you got to watch till the end. I think.
No, just tell me now.

Speaker 21 Just tell.

Speaker 40 We just need to know how this ends.

Speaker 31 Are they alive?

Speaker 22 What happened?

Speaker 42 Yeah, by the fifth episode, I think we see that they do find their voice, and that's an antidote to this very toxic comparison culture.

Speaker 42 I think what we see in the show is that kids are suffering from 24-7 comparison, that that takes away from everything. They never feel like they're enough.

Speaker 42 And kids have always looked at, like, what are the popular kids doing?

Speaker 42 Or what are the kids at my school doing but here they're looking at every person in the world half of them who are not even real or who are enhanced and they don't measure up so I think that is so tough and I think that's one of the reasons they participated is because they wanted to talk about it and have a place to process right and I mean okay so them

Speaker 40 them not feeling good on social media no duh Like, of course, I, again, I hate kids and I could tell you that, that they're probably gonna...

Speaker 40 But I guess how much much of that is just normal teenage awkwardness? And how much of this is social media playing a factor into it?

Speaker 42 Social media has a factor on everything. I've looked at youth culture since the 90s and social media is amplifying all of the problems of coming of age.
I'll give you an example.

Speaker 42 2006, I made my first film about eating disorders. It was called Thin.
At that time, one in seven girls suffered from an eating disorder.

Speaker 42 While I was doing social studies in one interview, one girl said, half my friends have eating disorders from TikTok, and the other half are lying.

Speaker 42 What you see in the show and that's where the silent clapping that you saw in the clip comes in is it's so ubiquitous, it's so universal and the kids are relating to each other and we're not just talking about feeling bad about you know not being the football quarterback.

Speaker 42 We're talking about self-harm, eating disorders, depression, even suicidal ideation. And these are things that many kids, even in our small group of 25, were dealing with.

Speaker 40 Sure, but how does social media specifically, does it, I mean, isn't this just a teenage, you know, kids are,

Speaker 40 they, we feel anxious. I remember feeling anxious.
I barely had a pager when I was a kid. I'm like 39, so is that old? I don't know.
Am I old? I don't know. Anyway, the point,

Speaker 40 I'm just saying, like, I also felt when going to school awkward and comparisons. And so, how much of this is just, are we blaming the wrong people here?

Speaker 42 I mean, social media teaches values and values change behavior like for example Sydney in the first episode she talks about how when she got on Instagram she started posting her passion which was photography wasn't getting any likes so she started posting her body started getting a lot of likes that leads to very provocative thirst straps which you see this young girl talking about it in her bedroom.

Speaker 40 She looks completely innocent, sweatshirt, fidgeting nervously, pastel pastel colors in the room and then when you see the videos you don't recognize the same girl it almost could be like an only fan site okay now you're scaring the shit out of everybody so how how do we like what what's a solution here because i again one of the things that struck me in the documentary was i can't emphasize enough how much the children in this they were saying they were using it the phones and they were like we know this is bad and we need adults to step in and help us, someone help us.

Speaker 40 And I think that's a marked departure from kids usually think they're like telling the adults to f ⁇ off and give me some drugs and these kids are like

Speaker 40 these these kids are like hey we need some adults here because we don't know what's happening can you please help us yeah so what how do we help these kids I think that's you've touched on a huge problem which is parents

Speaker 42 Well, it is a drug. It is highly addictive.
And so they can't do it on their own.

Speaker 42 And that's something I learned as a parent. I used to get upset with my son and blame him.

Speaker 40 And beat him and beat him, yeah.

Speaker 42 But

Speaker 42 it's like blaming a drug addict for an opiate addiction.

Speaker 40 It's almost like, it's like blaming, it's like

Speaker 40 giving your kids drugs and telling them not to use it while having drugs in your pocket as you use it. That's kind of what's...

Speaker 42 Well, Jonathan says at the end, it's our lifeline, but it's also a loaded gun.

Speaker 42 It's got this dual thing where you can't live without it and you can't live with it. So what other thing is a lifeline that we would also say is as dangerous as a lung gun?

Speaker 40 No, oh sorry, no, no.

Speaker 42 And I think they are calling out for help. Like Sydney says, it's kind of like when we learned that cigarettes had a connection to lung cancer.

Speaker 42 Like now we know social media has a connection to eating disorders and depression and suicidal ideation. We need to do something about it.

Speaker 42 And they say, so let's get off. But then somebody brings up the existential question, do you exist if you're not on social? And all the kids are like, no, people forget about who you are.

Speaker 40 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 42 So what should we do? I mean, I think there are things that we can do. The algorithm does not have to be this way.

Speaker 42 The algorithm is this teaching tool that will literally take somebody who is just interested in a diet and eventually bring them down a path that could lead to an eating disorder. Sure.

Speaker 42 Or kids are self-diagnosing their mental illness. So the algorithm doesn't have to be like that.
It's not like this in China. TikTok is educational.

Speaker 42 In fact, kids can't be on more than two hours a day. Is that true?

Speaker 19 I don't even know.

Speaker 42 And so

Speaker 42 the algorithm is made by engineers to do exactly what it's doing, which is maximum engagement without any concern for young people's well-being.

Speaker 42 So of course it brings everybody, adults too, deeper and deeper into these dangerous rabbit holes.

Speaker 39 Right.

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Speaker 17 Oh, I am so happy that you're here. I hope you're ready because I am going to hammer you with tariff questions.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 17 We have got to get to the bottom of Trump's trade war.

Speaker 26 Let's go ahead and do it.

Speaker 44 I mean one, first of all, I miss 104. We're at 125 now, but 104 just felt like a sexier number, right?

Speaker 17 Right, I totally agree.

Speaker 31 Random.

Speaker 28 Miss opportunity.

Speaker 30 Miss opportunity.

Speaker 17 Oh my god. I am such a huge fan of yours.

Speaker 2 Likewise, Desi.

Speaker 41 But like, okay, I ran into you.

Speaker 44 I think it was some, it doesn't matter, some awards thing, but like.

Speaker 17 I'm sure it was very fancy and very elite.

Speaker 44 It was very fancy very elite, but I

Speaker 9 like whatever.

Speaker 44 I have tunnel vision at those things. I don't look in the peripher because I'm like, I don't know who I'm going to like, you know,

Speaker 44 and get into the crossfire with. But like you,

Speaker 44 I turned to you and it felt like there was a star shower behind you. I was like,

Speaker 44 Desney like is right there and God, I love her.

Speaker 17 Oh, you're so sweet. I travel with a ring light.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 And I haven't.

Speaker 17 And you're back list? Yes, I'm always back.

Speaker 31 I'd hire an intern to follow me around.

Speaker 17 So it makes you think it's a moment.

Speaker 17 Yes, no, I felt the same way. I was like, I need to corner you and make sure that you come on the show to see us, and then I can snag you.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 17 That's what

Speaker 26 we did it.

Speaker 1 We did it.

Speaker 17 I love all of the characters that you play on SNL. You've played George Santos.

Speaker 10 Yes. Oh, there he is.

Speaker 10 The very handsome George Santos.

Speaker 17 JD Vance.

Speaker 17 There he is.

Speaker 17 And my favorite, the Primadonna iceberg.

Speaker 17 That's my favorite of all time. It feels like you choose these highly unlikable, unsavory characters and just somehow find the humor and make them engaging.

Speaker 44 I really love just this thing in our culture of like people who are in media who like

Speaker 40 hate it too much.

Speaker 44 But like they chose to like be in front of the camera, they chose to be on display, and yet they're like, Don't look at me, don't look at me.

Speaker 44 But it's like, you know, you opted into there was some buy-in on some level.

Speaker 17 The idea that the iceberg is a victim in all of this.

Speaker 38 Totally.

Speaker 28 That's very and isn't he?

Speaker 20 He was just sitting there.

Speaker 22 I mean, what was he doing?

Speaker 33 It wasn't really his fault.

Speaker 44 And by now,

Speaker 44 he's gone. He's melted away with climate change.

Speaker 17 What was the moment when you were asked to play J.D. Vance? Lauren asked you, and what did you say?

Speaker 44 Lauren asked me, and I said, please, please, please don't make me do this.

Speaker 5 Why? I really find him challenging.

Speaker 41 First of all, I like

Speaker 44 God's honest truth. I really do my best with him, but every time I have to play him, I go to Lauren and I say, you can do a buyback.
You don't have to stick with me.

Speaker 44 You can please reach out to Zach Alfanakis.

Speaker 40 Please reach out to Taryn Killum.

Speaker 44 But no,

Speaker 44 that's my charge.

Speaker 17 How did you find your way through him? Was it a challenge?

Speaker 41 It was. Oh my gosh, you really are grilling me.

Speaker 33 We'll get to the tarot.

Speaker 28 I love it.

Speaker 41 I love it.

Speaker 41 No, you know what? I worked with...

Speaker 44 You guys are going to roll your fing eyes.

Speaker 38 I worked with like an accent coach.

Speaker 44 We had to find the middle between. We had to find the middle between like Appalachian, but Ohio.

Speaker 22 Like we really had to like find the right.

Speaker 44 Yeah, and like I was like, I don't want to screw this up. Like I have, I have such an uphill battle here.

Speaker 41 Like I've got my almond eye.

Speaker 28 I've got

Speaker 40 like this.

Speaker 44 And everyone in America is going to be like, this Asian guy is playing that guy? Like, I was like, I really got to nail this down. And I'm just telling you guys, I'm doing my best, okay?

Speaker 44 It is so far beyond that.

Speaker 17 I love hearing that because your presence on SNL is like, like, I can't imagine the pressure cooker it must be. And you always look so calm and cool and relaxed.

Speaker 17 So thank you for sharing that you work really hard. Yeah.
You hire an actress.

Speaker 44 And I'm not even on ketamine. It's amazing.

Speaker 21 Yet.

Speaker 31 Yet. Yes.

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 17 I want to talk about your podcast.

Speaker 17 Las Culturistas. Yes.
Pop culture has been a huge part of your life. You started doing that in 2016 before SNL.

Speaker 17 How has your perspective changed over the years being someone who observes and is passionate about pop culture to then becoming part of the culture?

Speaker 29 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 44 I really think there is no big difference. We're basically the same show as we were nine years ago, which is dinosaur years in podcasting.

Speaker 28 Yeah, truly.

Speaker 44 But I mean, it's the same show. We start off, we just riff, and then we end with this silly segment.
But I think, like,

Speaker 41 I'm just like y'all going home watching the pit, you know what I mean?

Speaker 21 Like, I,

Speaker 44 like, we're all watching the same stuff, and I feel like there's, I get why everyone thinks that, like, things are fragmented now and there's no monoculture anymore, but I feel like we're still like tuning into like the same shows.

Speaker 44 Like, there's just fewer shows that we're all tuning into, but I feel like that kind of makes our jobs, our jobs as people, as consumers, easier.

Speaker 44 If we're just like, all right, it's Sunday, we're gonna watch Walton Goggins, you know, be scary.

Speaker 17 Yes, yes, and we all did, except I have not caught up on the finale. So please,

Speaker 26 I didn't spoil anything. I didn't speak.

Speaker 28 Blow it for me.

Speaker 17 I'm gonna watch tonight. I want to talk about your new movie,

Speaker 17 The Wedding Banquet. It's so good.
You're fantastic in it. This cast is amazing.
Lily Gladstone. Yep.

Speaker 44 Joan Chen. Yes.
Honky Chan. It's his first English movie ever.
He's amazing in it. Kelly Marie Tran.
It's a great...

Speaker 17 Tell us what the story is all about.

Speaker 44 So it's a remake of an Aang Lee film from the 90s. It's about this sham marriage that has to get staged between these two couples who are friends with each other.

Speaker 44 The lesbian couple needs an IVF treatment. The Korean guy, my boyfriend, needs to...

Speaker 44 just stage this wedding so that his parents in Korea, his family in Korea doesn't find out. He's really wealthy.
He offers to pay for the IVF treatments.

Speaker 44 And my character kind of gets sidelined and he's like, how do I fit into this? And it's so fun. It's a warm hug of a movie.
You'll all love it. I promise.
It's great.

Speaker 17 It's a rom-com. You're bringing the rom-coms back.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Finally, we need more.

Speaker 41 It's me.

Speaker 41 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 30 Yeah,

Speaker 30 it's me.

Speaker 44 Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney.

Speaker 2 We're all on the front line.

Speaker 33 I'll take it.

Speaker 17 That's a movie I'd like to see, actually. If you can make that happen, a couple with the three of you.

Speaker 17 The movie, as you said, centers around a sham marriage.

Speaker 17 Have you thought about who you would want your sham wife to be? Yeah.

Speaker 2 For a green card?

Speaker 17 Like, if you had to

Speaker 38 create that situation?

Speaker 20 Let's see.

Speaker 44 Who needs one?

Speaker 20 But who wants to come here anymore?

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 A fair point.

Speaker 44 I'm going to say.

Speaker 17 Would she be like a blonde in late night? Or

Speaker 17 like if you could choose anyone

Speaker 33 I see I take your shoes?

Speaker 38 You're spoken for her.

Speaker 44 I feel like right, but she would absolutely be a blonde. No,

Speaker 17 as you were.

Speaker 40 As I was.

Speaker 42 You know what?

Speaker 44 I would really take any

Speaker 44 I'm a self-proclaimed boob gay.

Speaker 44 I love a booksome bosom.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 44 And so, yeah, as long as you're stacked, I'll marry.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 21 I love that! I love that!

Speaker 40 Most respected chefs in America.

Speaker 28 Thanks for coming on the show. Great to meet you.

Speaker 40 Likewise. Great person as well.

Speaker 40 Your book, Cookbook and Memoir, you've managed to trick us into reading about your story in between.

Speaker 40 You kind of hide it in between these recipes here. And very,

Speaker 40 it's well written. I encourage everyone to go read it.
You know, for a chef, the stereotype is everyone's very angry, but you write this with so much love.

Speaker 40 What is the real you?

Speaker 2 Is it this?

Speaker 26 This is it, yeah.

Speaker 40 Because there's, I know this is kind of like a hacky

Speaker 40 question, but I just got to ask it, because you also bring up in the memoir, when you are up and coming, you're being trained by these legendary chefs, the training in the kitchen was pretty hardcore.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it was.

Speaker 40 People were yelling at you.

Speaker 28 People were yelling at you.

Speaker 46 But I think there's a reason for that.

Speaker 45 And especially when I was in France working, I got a sense that they couldn't communicate any other way.

Speaker 9 That was the only way they could actually

Speaker 48 get a point across.

Speaker 46 Right, the France. Yelling and screaming, yeah, and so you got used to it.

Speaker 40 Right, but I mean, even in America, you're training American.

Speaker 28 Yeah, same thing, the American chef.

Speaker 46 Same thing, though.

Speaker 40 So I guess my question to you is: like,

Speaker 48 they're yelling at you in a different language.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 37 F is f is.

Speaker 28 It doesn't matter, right?

Speaker 10 Exactly, yeah.

Speaker 40 Because I feel like

Speaker 40 I don't know enough about cooking at all, but with comedy, I feel like there is a certain amount of toxicity that you need to endure to get good at this, you know?

Speaker 40 And so do you feel the same way with cooking? You know, I guess what would you say to all these woke sissies who are complaining about being mistreated in the kitchen?

Speaker 40 Like, really, are you like, hey, like, tough enough? Or are you like, hey, something's... Not anymore.

Speaker 47 No, we don't do that anymore. No, no, we can't do that.

Speaker 46 No, things have changed.

Speaker 45 When I was coming up, it was 40 years ago.

Speaker 26 It was a very different world that we lived in.

Speaker 46 And

Speaker 26 there wasn't a whole whole lot of

Speaker 47 in-your-face screaming and yelling, but it was a lot of hard and long hours.

Speaker 48 And there was a lot expected of you.

Speaker 47 But it wasn't

Speaker 47 the yelling and screaming that you think about.

Speaker 45 But the misogyny was obviously there.

Speaker 47 The sort of machismo of kitchen,

Speaker 47 you burnt yourself, that was a badge of honor. How many times you burnt your arms and things like that.

Speaker 47 But I think a lot of that's going away.

Speaker 40 Right. But I guess the question, again, to you is like, is it going away for the, is it good that it's going away? Or do you feel like something's missing in the transfer of knowledge?

Speaker 47 No, I don't think anything's missing in transfer of knowledge. I think that it's going away for the right reasons.

Speaker 47 You know, the idea of getting someone to do something through intimidation doesn't really work.

Speaker 47 I mean, maybe it works in the military, I have no idea, but it certainly isn't necessary to get your point across. And I think also, if you look back, the chefs that were running.

Speaker 40 So Introdia, actually, I spoke to a military guy about this, because

Speaker 40 as a Asian person who grew up in simple Malaysia, I've been yelled at my whole life to where

Speaker 40 learning was being yelled at. And I asked the military guys about this, and the US, I mean, small sample size, but one of the U.S.

Speaker 40 military guys said that when you're yelling, you've already lost control.

Speaker 26 Exactly. You lost control.

Speaker 40 Meaning you shouldn't be in that situation in the first place.

Speaker 29 You don't have to be.

Speaker 47 I think it's a matter of 40 years ago, the chefs that were working in kitchens, they weren't able to communicate exactly what they were looking for.

Speaker 47 And so they were running around and screaming the whole day because they thought that was the way that you had to motivate people because that's the way they were motivated.

Speaker 47 And somewhere along the lines, I mean, for me, and I think I mentioned this in the book.

Speaker 40 Thomas Kelly.

Speaker 46 Well, that was different.

Speaker 40 That was more. Don't interrupt you.

Speaker 46 Yeah, that was more psychological nonsense that he'd be playing.

Speaker 48 He played a lot of games. I mean, he's a great chef,

Speaker 47 but I just had an issue with the way

Speaker 47 he was talking to me.

Speaker 47 I promised myself at a certain point, if I got a restaurant, that I wasn't going to sort of, the things that the way I was treated, I was going to break that. I was going to do something different.

Speaker 45 And, you know, did I lose my temper at times? Absolutely.

Speaker 48 But nowadays you kind of walk away.

Speaker 46 Before you lose your temper, you walk away.

Speaker 28 Okay.

Speaker 40 Okay. No, I'm genuinely interested in this because you're arguably the most respected chef in America.

Speaker 40 If you're saying that, hey, hey, we don't need to be yelling in kitchens, then I guess everything that's happening in the bear is completely unnecessary because those guys,

Speaker 30 you know what I'm saying, what's going on?

Speaker 40 What are you guys doing?

Speaker 26 But I don't know if you saw the third season. There wasn't a whole lot of yelling in the third season.

Speaker 21 It wasn't that good. Oh, okay.

Speaker 41 I mean,

Speaker 40 that's something I can't speak to, but you speak to the kitchen stuff, but I think there's a lot of people who think that the third season was a little slow. Okay, well, I'm not going to.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I love it. The critics watch the band.

Speaker 26 Not me, it's the critics that say that. It's not me.

Speaker 40 I'm still available for guest appearances in the band.

Speaker 40 Yeah, and

Speaker 26 they're going to take my cookbook.

Speaker 47 I have a cookbook on the shelf there. They're going to take it off now.

Speaker 29 No, they won't. Season four of my books.

Speaker 40 No, you see, you don't yell at it anymore. You just say that they suck quietly.

Speaker 8 Very quietly.

Speaker 28 Very bad.

Speaker 39 You're not in the kitchen going, you suck.

Speaker 40 You're on the daily show going, you suck.

Speaker 28 You suck.

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Speaker 25 Congrats on the success of HACS.

Speaker 36 Thank you so much. We laugh.

Speaker 25 I laugh so hard at the show.

Speaker 40 That's the goal.

Speaker 25 So much of this season,

Speaker 25 so much of this season is about acquiring or attempting to get a late night show.

Speaker 27 Yes.

Speaker 25 Did you reach out to people in late night? Did you not have my email? And you were nervous?

Speaker 25 And then you got it, but then you still didn't want a cold email?

Speaker 15 How did it work? You know, I know you have a lot going on. You have a lot of news to read, you have a lot of things to do.
So

Speaker 15 we did have, we had a bunch of consultants on the show that had worked in late night.

Speaker 6 So we had a peek behind the curtain from our writers.

Speaker 22 Because it is, is,

Speaker 36 I mean, I'm,

Speaker 25 I feel like you're writing about the comedy industry and it's singing to me.

Speaker 25 But then I'm going, is the rest of the country also understanding and laughing at all this?

Speaker 37 But it feels like you've really done that.

Speaker 25 That's good. How have you created a show about show business that my friends in Michigan like also?

Speaker 15 Wow.

Speaker 15 And they're idiots. I love them.

Speaker 15 You know, I think because it's a show about people who have been kind of cast aside by the industry, I think it's really relatable because you know what it's like, or a lot of people know what it's like, to be on the outside of something and want to break into it.

Speaker 15 And, you know, this woman, Deborah Vance, played brilliantly by Gene Smart, you know, is this Vegas stand-up and kind of had to carve out her own path outside of show business.

Speaker 15 So I think because of that, you know, people who want to do creative work or people who want to do something and have

Speaker 15 a craving for something really understand that want.

Speaker 25 Her drive, her ambition, yet her selfishness.

Speaker 25 That's one thing I also got to ask you about. Does one have to be selfish to be successful? I'm asking, basically, I'm asking myself that question.

Speaker 25 But it comes up in hacks.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, it's a major theme.

Speaker 15 I hope not because I'm an angel.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 I hope you don't have to be. But, you know, I think you have to be selfish to a certain degree in that if you are somebody like the characters in the show, you have to really be married to your work.

Speaker 15 You know, it's like really all about devoting yourself 150%. So in that way, I think, yeah, you kind of do sacrifice things in your life.

Speaker 25 Was it important for you to create a show where women from different generations are interacting?

Speaker 25 Because that's one thing that I, when I was looking at hacks and not just laughing with it, and I was saying, I was like, holy shit, these are just two totally different age groups interacting, which is pretty rare on TV.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, that was the thing for us is we had never seen a show, I mean, other than maybe mother-daughter or something, where there were two people that were so different that became friends.

Speaker 15 So that was really one of the

Speaker 15 most interesting parts of the dynamic. Also it let us explore different ideas from their frame of reference which would be so different.

Speaker 15 And so we can do that over and over again in a way that hopefully is

Speaker 15 sensitive to both of their points of view. Nobody's ever 100% right.
Yeah.

Speaker 25 Well that is what's fun is you, as soon as I'm liking Deborah, she breaks my heart.

Speaker 25 And then you know, it's, yeah, so you've done that very well. Thank you.

Speaker 6 Hacks.

Speaker 25 That term in stand-up comedy, it's an insult. It is.
It means you are telling old jokes, you're not being creative.

Speaker 28 Right.

Speaker 15 How do you know?

Speaker 22 Exactly.

Speaker 28 Honestly.

Speaker 28 And attack.

Speaker 28 Edit that.

Speaker 25 I know because I'm fearful of it.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 35 You know, the worst thing you can be called is a thief.

Speaker 25 The second worst thing you can be called is a hack.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 25 So how did this term in the title happen? And sometimes I wonder if it's accurate for the show. Am I right to question that?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 28 That's why you're here. I'm here to ask you.

Speaker 15 No, I mean it is interesting because we kind of called it that in the beginning and it was sort of like a temporary title. But it is like this thing of, and you see people on late night actually.

Speaker 15 A lot of times comedians I find, or I think we can all agree, sometimes go on late night and they still kill. And they're so funny because they're in touch with what's going on in culture.

Speaker 15 And then there are some people that age out.

Speaker 15 And some people that you get are on and you're like why is this person still doing it or why are they still telling the same jokes so in the beginning of the show

Speaker 15 this young writer interviews for this job with this older stand-up and says i would never want to work for a hack right but what she learns in the course of the show is that a hack is somebody who does the same thing over and over again yeah but our character learns and grows because of her relationship with this younger person and vice versa.

Speaker 15 I mean, the younger person is an entitled Gen Z person that learns the value of hard work and gets up earlier. You know, there's a lot of things that she gets back from Deborah.

Speaker 25 You create,

Speaker 25 co-create it. There's a lot of, you know, you write on it.
Yeah. You've directed, right?

Speaker 6 Yep. And

Speaker 25 you're in it.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 25 That's a shitload of stuff. Too much.
Too much stuff.

Speaker 28 Too much.

Speaker 25 Wearing all the hats, how do you compartmentalize? Is it too many things?

Speaker 15 You know, they all kind of go hand in hand for me. I mean, being able to

Speaker 15 perform is the most fun, but also having written it, it just, it gives it a little bit more of a freedom and an effortlessness when I am performing.

Speaker 15 Directing is something that, you know, I think when we write, we write visually and we think about the way that the show looks and how it's composed.

Speaker 15 And so that is also something that feels like it's just integral to the work, but it is the hardest part.

Speaker 28 Directing is hard.

Speaker 19 Directing. Directing is really hard.

Speaker 15 Because you have to think about time and there's a whole crew of people that are making this thing happen and you're deciding if you can move on or you'll get another take.

Speaker 15 It's just like that stuff is much less fun than

Speaker 15 saying lines.

Speaker 25 I mean, you're also dealing with talent, but in yourself, you're dealing with yourself. Yeah, and that's the hardest thing.
You ever think about that?

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 25 Like, God, this guy, Paul, is such an asshole to the director. Absolutely.
Right, yeah, that director's hard.

Speaker 15 I am the most demanding of the director, and I'm the hardest on the actor, Paul.

Speaker 26 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 25 There's a line in episode one, season three,

Speaker 25 where you're at the JFL Just for Laughs Festival, which

Speaker 25 rest in peace is now bankrupt.

Speaker 25 But there's like young young people at the bar and one of them's looking around and he says, God, it feels so 80s in here.

Speaker 36 And I laughed out loud.

Speaker 25 Who wrote that? And what does that line like?

Speaker 15 I have to tell you that that was improvised by that actor.

Speaker 25 Are you serious?

Speaker 15 Yes, I give credit where credit is due.

Speaker 21 Wow. Well,

Speaker 21 shit. Thanks.
Now he's a co-writer.

Speaker 30 Now he's a co-writer.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Jordan improvised that.

Speaker 15 And that's the thing we try because myself, my wife, Lucia and Yellow, and Jen Saski, who created the show, we all come from improv and sketch comedy.

Speaker 15 And so when somebody brings something to the role that makes it better, we're like, great, let's use it. So we're constantly adapting on that.

Speaker 25 I feel like you and your co-star in the scene that showed are improvising a fair amount. Is that accurate, or does it just feel so natural?

Speaker 15 Yes, but in the scene that you just saw, that was completely scripted. It was.

Speaker 15 That was very, very scripted because there were so many, you know, that woman who was taping us had like, you know, there was a lot of moving parts to that scene, but we do improvise a fair amount.

Speaker 25 That's great. Megan.

Speaker 25 That, I told you backstage, but that episode really resonated with me because as a comic, it's like, get to JFL, get to Just for Laughs. And holy shit, you guys nailed it so well.
Thank you.

Speaker 25 But there's also a little bit of a dig there on this show called On the Contrary that Hannah's character plays.

Speaker 25 And it's a man wearing an Uncle Sam hat, and they're talking about how important comedy is, how it changes society. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 25 And I'm watching it, and I'm looking around here, and I'm seeing the red, white, and the blue.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 25 And then I was thinking, you know, one of the things I like about Deborah's comedy is that it isn't always important. It isn't always changing the world.

Speaker 25 And I want to know what your thoughts are on, is comedy important?

Speaker 27 Is it meant to be?

Speaker 25 Does it need to be? Can we just do a joke where we do fart noises in our armpits sometimes?

Speaker 15 My favorite joke.

Speaker 15 My favorite joke.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I think that... I think comedy is important, even if it's not satire and it's not political comedy.

Speaker 15 I think it's important because, I don't know, that thing of like getting together with people and laughing, it does bring people closer together. I know that sounds

Speaker 22 true, but it's true.

Speaker 15 I mean, don't you guys feel connected? Yeah.

Speaker 22 Don't you guys feel like...

Speaker 30 Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 25 Was the Daily Show in there when you were in the middle of the day?

Speaker 15 Oh, there's DNA in the Daily Show. Yeah, there's absolutely Daily Show

Speaker 36 references in there.

Speaker 25 Speaking of the Daily Show, tell us quickly, you had a little bit of experience in this building.

Speaker 15 Well, I met Ilana Glazer from Broad City, who I worked with on Broad City, on the street because we both auditioned to be on-camera interns on the daily show.

Speaker 15 And neither of us got it.

Speaker 22 That's why I made her bring it up.

Speaker 22 No.

Speaker 28 That's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 10 I do love that. It worked out.

Speaker 15 Is that where you met her? That's where we met on the street. She had met my wife, Lucia, and she said, hey, you're Paul.
And I said, yeah.

Speaker 15 And she said, I know Lucia, and I'm just like her, but three years younger.

Speaker 18 And like,

Speaker 15 I was like, is this a time travel thing?

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