Trump Can’t Keep His Hands Off MBS as Epstein Files Release Is Imminent | Sean Sherman

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Speaker 9 Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Ronnie Chang.
We got so much to talk about tonight. You can upload your grandma to the cloud now.

Speaker 9 Someone paid for expeditor shipping on the Epstein files, and Trump and MBS do hand stuff. So,

Speaker 9 let's get into the headlines.

Speaker 9 Yesterday was a big day at the White House because Donald Trump got to have a play date with Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, an all-around great guy who definitely doesn't hold a grudge and I, Ronnie Chang, have no problems with.

Speaker 9 And the two of them couldn't keep Trump's hand off each other.

Speaker 6 We've worked with all presidents.

Speaker 9 Is Trump along all the way?

Speaker 8 Son of the league, Mr. President.

Speaker 9 And Trump doesn't give a fist pump.

Speaker 9 I grabbed that hand. I don't give a hell where that hand's been.
I grabbed that hand.

Speaker 9 what the hell was that

Speaker 9 that was the worst handshake I've ever seen that was like the 9-11 of handshakes and

Speaker 9 once again Saudi Arabia is involved okay

Speaker 9 and Trump why are you wondering where his hand has been you're the one whose hand is decomposing I mean

Speaker 9 Now you might be wondering wait, how is Donald Trump best friends with MBS? Isn't Trump the Muslim band guy? Didn't he just spent a month calling Zora Mandani a terrorist?

Speaker 9 Well, the difference is that Zorah Mandani is a Shia Muslim whose family comes from Uganda by way of India, whereas MBS is giving Trump money.

Speaker 5 The Trump organization already has multiple projects in Saudi Arabia, including Trump Towers in Jeddah and Riyadh, and a Trump Plaza in the works.

Speaker 5 In the last year alone, the Trump organization's Saudi partner pumping more than $20 million into the family business.

Speaker 9 Wow, three Trump towers in Saudi Arabia? See, America can f up your skyline too. But enough about collusion between global elites.
Let's move on to the Epstein files.

Speaker 8 Yeah

Speaker 9 Where my app heads at?

Speaker 9 Just me

Speaker 9 Yesterday the House of Representatives voted to release the files thanks to brave Republicans like Nancy Mace who was very clear about not being a part of the Epstein network.

Speaker 7 The Epstein emails suggest that in fact there is a widespread code among people with power and money who support one another. Does that exist in Washington?

Speaker 11 I'm not part of the powerful. I'm not part of the elite.
I'm an island of one. I don't get invited to parties.
I don't have any friends. I have a dog.

Speaker 9 Wait, are you fishing for an invite to the sex party?

Speaker 9 Like, why did you make not being a part of a pedophile ring sound so sad? Like,

Speaker 9 That's a middle ground between Epstein Island and friendless loser like

Speaker 9 Walk the middle path

Speaker 9 I mean she doesn't go to parties. She doesn't have friends.
She does have a dog But after a day with her even the dogs like where's Christine Noam when you need her

Speaker 9 but Thanks to these Republicans The House voted to release the Epstein files and I just cannot believe this is gonna happen. Trump has been trying to stop us from seeing these files for months now.

Speaker 9 I mean they must have some plan to drag this thing out.

Speaker 12 House Speaker Mike Johnson says he expects the Senate to amend the bill which would then send it back to the House.

Speaker 8 Of course,

Speaker 9 that's the plan.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's obvious. They're going to let it pass the House because they know it will go to the Senate, aka where the legislation and senators go to die.

Speaker 14 Breaking tonight in Washington, D.C., the Senate has unanimously agreed to pass the bill to release the Epstein files.

Speaker 8 Wait, what?

Speaker 8 Wait, how?

Speaker 9 How the f ⁇ did it pass this fast? I thought a bill in the Senate had to go through amendments and committees and floor votes and Mitch McConnell's neck folds and

Speaker 9 they have to add some unrelated earmarks that somehow make Lindsey Graham millions of dollars. Like, how'd they get around all that?

Speaker 15 Senate Democrats pressured their Republican counterparts to pass the Epstein Files Transparency Act by something that's called unanimous consent, meaning the Senate accepts the House version of the bill as written.

Speaker 9 Wait, you can do that?

Speaker 9 Unanimous consent?

Speaker 9 Well, then, why don't you do that with every bill? I mean, does it only work on bills with Epstein's name?

Speaker 9 In that case, we might need to pass the Jeffrey Epstein Universal Healthcare Epstein Act featuring Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 9 No, don't.

Speaker 9 Why are you cheering Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 9 But back to this bill. There's no way they're going to let this pass.
Okay? Yeah, it got through the House and Senate, but I'm sure Donald Trump will veto this bill as soon as it reaches his desk.

Speaker 15 President Donald Trump says he's ready to sign the bill as soon as it reaches his desk.

Speaker 9 Wait, my God, what the hell is happening here? Is Trump really going to release the Epstein files? He's not going to burn them or hide them or put them on Baron's head so no one can reach them.

Speaker 9 I can't believe this. Look, there's just no way that this man is going to release the Epstein files that he is in.
I mean, he must have a plan to get out of this.

Speaker 13 We should note, the legislation, as it stands, clearly says, quote, the Attorney General may withhold or redact personally identifiable information of victims or victims' personal and medical files and any material that would would jeopardize an active investigation or national security.

Speaker 9 Yeah, there we go. See, that's how they're going to keep these files secret.
National security, America's go-to justification.

Speaker 9 It stops us from bringing shampoo on a plane, it puts terrorists on bananas, and soon it can prevent you from seeing if the president is a pedophile.

Speaker 9 And by the time Pam Bondi is done with these files, there'll be more censored than the airplane version of a Nora.

Speaker 8 Now,

Speaker 9 I'm not saying we'll never see the Epstein files. I'm not saying we will.
All I'm saying is we need to find other clues that the president inappropriately touches people.

Speaker 9 Now, for more on the release of the Epstein files, we go live to the DOJ with Jordan Clepper.

Speaker 9 Clepper!

Speaker 9 Clepper!

Speaker 9 How close are we to seeing these files?

Speaker 16 Well, Ronnie, it looks like these files might be released next week, but we're we're all praying our hardest that something happens to delay that outcome.

Speaker 9 What? What do you mean? Like, I want to know who the perverts are.

Speaker 16 Do you, Ronnie?

Speaker 16 You think you do. We all talk a big game about wanting to know who all the perves are, but then you find out it's America's sweetheart, economist Larry Summers, and you're devastated.

Speaker 16 I mean, was he my favorite economist?

Speaker 9 No, but top three for sure.

Speaker 9 Dude, who gives a shit about Larry Summers?

Speaker 16 You're telling me you're not into Larry Summers? Not even his early stuff? I mean, his Clinton-era Treasury meetings redefined the genre, man.

Speaker 16 But now, I feel gross even looking at inflation numbers from the mid-90s.

Speaker 9 Clipper, separate the art from the artist, okay? And no one gives a shit about Larry Summers.

Speaker 16 It's not just Larry Summers. Epstein had a lot of friends, and we haven't thought through how wide his network was.
I mean,

Speaker 16 what if Dolly Parton's in there? You want me and my wife to stop singing Islands in the stream at karaoke? It's the only thing holding my marriage together.

Speaker 16 I mean, what if one of your favorite people was on Epstein Island? Give me someone you love.

Speaker 9 Oh, I'm pretty dead inside, but

Speaker 9 if you force me to say something, I guess I do love the Muppets.

Speaker 16 Okay.

Speaker 16 All right. What if, what if Kermit the Frog is in the Epstein files? You think it's not easy being green? Try being publicly outed as a pedophile.

Speaker 9 Jordan, please don't ruin the Muppets for me.

Speaker 16 Let me tell you about having things ruined for you, Ronnie.

Speaker 16 Years ago, every Thanksgiving, I would sit down with my favorite Jared Fogel-approved turkey sandwich, craft coconut, a big jello pudding pop, and I'd watch Matt Lauer host the parade.

Speaker 16 And wait for the big Kevin Spacey balloon.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 16 no, no, now I gotta eat turkey with my family and watch Savannah Guthrie host the parade.

Speaker 8 Do you have any idea how f ⁇ that is, man?

Speaker 9 Okay, okay. That sounds terrible, I agree.
But these rich, famous people shouldn't be protected just because they happen to have fans.

Speaker 16 It's not just some people. This is every perv everywhere all at once.

Speaker 16 It's gonna destroy the country. The banks go under, the economy collapses.
I have to go back to my job waiting tables at P.F. Changs.
I'm not doing that, Ronnie.

Speaker 16 I'm not spending every Saturday walking up to 14-year-olds talk rapping. I'm PF Chang, and I'm here to say I hope you have a Chang Tatic birthday.

Speaker 8 No! Okay, no!

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 8 Jordan.

Speaker 8 He's not gonna have it!

Speaker 9 Okay, Jordan,

Speaker 9 look, I know that might be some short-term pain, but it will let us do the work of rebuilding a society from the ground up that doesn't put us under the rule of elite perverts.

Speaker 16 That sounds like a lot more work than just not releasing the files.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, you're right, I got tired just saying that.
Yeah, Jordan Clap, everybody.

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Speaker 9 Our guest tonight is a James Beard award-winning chef whose new book is called Turtle Island: Foods and Traditions of the Indigenous Peoples of North America. Please welcome Chef Sean Sherman.

Speaker 9 One New York, welcome, Chef.

Speaker 8 Thanks for coming.

Speaker 9 Thank you.

Speaker 9 My first time meeting you, but I ate at a restaurant years ago in Minneapolis.

Speaker 9 And I remember walking in and I passed by it and it was a Native American restaurant serving Native American cuisine.

Speaker 9 And I remember going, I have never seen this before in America, which is really sad. Let me go in and eat it.

Speaker 25 And it was amazing.

Speaker 9 What was the, why aren't there more Native American restaurants?

Speaker 23 That's a long story.

Speaker 23 And we talk a lot about that. But, you know, it's unfortunate that Native American restaurants are so rare in Native America.

Speaker 23 And so a lot of this work was really trying to, you know, showcase that this was possible that we could have a modern Indigenous restaurant you know and we have a lot of values we try to purchase from Indigenous producers as much as we can we change very seasonally the restaurants owned by a non-profit you know so we hire a lot of native workers with us and we have an amazing staff we move a lot of money towards those indigenous producers and we're just kind of showcasing because we never want to be stuck in the past you know we don't want to we've been through all this erasure, we've been through all this misunderstanding, but there's so much beauty here and you know there's you know the food really kind of speaks for itself.

Speaker 9 Absolutely. And I mean the thing that struck me was some of the hallmarks of your interpretation of Native American food.
There's certain

Speaker 9 no's in the restaurant that you don't have, which I found interesting.

Speaker 23 Absolutely, because basically the philosophy was in order to showcase and highlight modern Indigenous foods in Native America, we cut out European colonial ingredients that European immigrants had brought over.

Speaker 23 So there's no dairy, no wheat flour, no cane sugar, no beef, pork and chicken. No jello.
No jello, no ranch dressing.

Speaker 9 No ranch dressing.

Speaker 23 We won a James Beard Award for best restaurant in the U.S. without ranch dressing.

Speaker 9 But, well, yeah, it's good.

Speaker 25 You beat the white people at their own war.

Speaker 8 That's true, it's true.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but I mean, no ranch dressing in Minneapolis.

Speaker 8 Yeah. How'd you get people in the door?

Speaker 23 Oh, well, they're coming. We've been sold out every night since we opened in 21.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's impossible to

Speaker 8 get in.

Speaker 8 I had to pull strings to try to have lunch there.

Speaker 9 But that's also kind of what's cool is that you give people kind of a rally point. Because I think there's a lot of people out there who probably want to support Native American things.

Speaker 9 And there's no outlet to do it. And the restaurant,

Speaker 9 I should probably say, Owami. Owamine, yeah.
Awamini. It's a great place where it's a great rally point where it's like, oh, I want to support not just Native American culture and people.

Speaker 9 You know, I actually want to try what this is and you can just go there and try it. Absolutely.

Speaker 23 I mean, it's very tangible.

Speaker 23 And, you know, people can experience this philosophy and we're pushing healthy food because like everything in the restaurants gluten-free, dairy-free, sugar-free, soy-free, pork-free, you know, and it's just because of that's just the philosophy of how we're cooking and we're normalizing not only indigenous foods but eating healthier, a lot more plant diversity, a lot more protein diversity, and just kind of showcasing what's possible, you know, and plus we're looking at all of North America from Mexico through Alaska, which kind of are reflected in this book that we just put out.

Speaker 23 But like we see like this whole situation because these borders crossed us, you know, and it's silly that we're seeing like so much demonization of people because they're coming from south of the border and they're speaking Spanish.

Speaker 23 But English is also a foreign language in North America.

Speaker 8 Right. Yeah, go.
Colin, I'm done.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and I mean just back on that idea of eating healthy, it feels like we kind of as a species, humans, we kind of know more about nutrition. than ever before, I think.
And

Speaker 9 everyone, you know, is trying to eat healthier now. And it feels like Native American food just fits perfectly into that mindset.

Speaker 23 Absolutely. I mean, there's so much plant diversity again.
It's low carbs. It's just a lot of minerals and nutrients.
There's a lot of this protein diversity.

Speaker 23 It's not over-processed food by any means, because these aren't the foods that I grew up with, because I grew up on a reservation.

Speaker 23 So I'm from Pine Ridge Reservation, which is third largest reservation. It's in South Dakota.

Speaker 23 And we have horrible statistics. We have really high rates of type 2 diabetes, obesity, heart disease.
Our unemployment rates are like through the through the roof.

Speaker 23 They're probably over over 70% still today.

Speaker 23 And so there's a lot of issues out there and that's what we're trying to address is because as Indigenous peoples we've been you know not only lost a lot of our land spaces, but we've were so much of our culture was stripped from us, which is a big reason why we don't see native restaurants everywhere, you know.

Speaker 23 And so there's a lot of work and the power of food is really important because it's a huge voice that we all understand. We all eat.
We all can understand.

Speaker 9 It's a cultural force multiplier for you, Eileen Point.

Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah. And I just think that it's just going to, it's something that pulls us together and it makes people curious and it,

Speaker 23 helps put a little empathy into things for people to think about why don't we have more native food out there? Why don't we have more native restaurants out there?

Speaker 23 And what can we do to make that happen?

Speaker 9 Yes. And so getting to, I guess this crowd doesn't support what you just said.

Speaker 9 I know.

Speaker 9 The colonizer crowd.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 9 but let's talk, but that brings me to your book, which is that it's a book about Native American cuisine. And what's interesting, which I feel

Speaker 9 it's kind of

Speaker 9 a burden on you is that you one man from Pine Ridge is forced to kind of represent all of Native America here and you do a good job of it you go to the different regions it's split up all the different regions on total island yeah the North American continent absolutely and you talk a little bit about each region and the cuisine there the type of people how they live there how difficult was it to kind of gather the information for this book because it's not just it it was immense amount of work and you know and it was a it took a community to put this together you know so the two co-authors with Kate Nelson and Kristen Donnelly we all played a certain role through helping to put this all together but we also reached out to this massive network all over Turtle Island you know in Mexico in the U.S.

Speaker 23 and Canada up in Alaska and just talked to people to really get their perspectives you know so it wasn't me trying to mansplain everybody's native foods out there but it was really just allowing these voices to come through to talk about it and showcasing all of this massive diversity because there's so much to talk about you know and there's so little that people know about Native America in you know across the United States and a lot of that's because of our colonial U.S.

Speaker 23 history books that teach us nothing about Indigenous peoples you know and there's so much to learn and there's so much knowledge about the plant usage for medicine for food for for crafting and there's just so much diversity to to explore out there you know and this also offers the environmental angle absolutely because it's just showcasing like indigenous people had the blueprint to live sustainably anywhere you know like pick a space around the world And so, because we had, you know, thousands and thousands of generations of knowledge of what to do with the world around us, with the plants and how to live sustainably around there, there's a lot of amazing lessons that we could pull.

Speaker 23 Because really, this isn't just about Native Americans in America. This is looking at Indigenous peoples, and we can apply this anywhere.

Speaker 23 This could be South America, Africa, India, Southeast Asia, Australia, New Zealand, because we can just dismantle colonization and the values that that brought and really focus on this massive global intellect and

Speaker 23 knowledge base of Indigenous peoples of being sustainable with the world around us and all this diversity of food and culture that's out there.

Speaker 8 Sure.

Speaker 8 Yeah, which is the road we go.

Speaker 9 And also, what's cool about your restaurant and recipes here, I think your interpretation of Native American food to me is that it's not like, and you make a point of this at the start of the book, is that you're not trying for historical accuracy here.

Speaker 9 Yeah, we're not in museums. Right.
Yeah, you're not trying to eat what they ate back then. For me, it's almost like it's like if Native American culture had been allowed to

Speaker 9 modernize till today, if it had been allowed to develop, this is the outcome.

Speaker 23 Absolutely, because we have this moment now that we can evolve all of our food moving forward. So for me, this is a book for the future, because I feel like I'm a futurist.

Speaker 23 Like, I'm seeing a better way that we can celebrate diversity, not try to homogenize it. We can understand how to live closer.

Speaker 23 We can have a lot more plant diversity, you know, and stop calling everything a weed, but starting to learn the names of everything.

Speaker 23 I always tease that kids can name more Kardashians than tree species because our education system sucks, you know, and there's so much more that we can do.

Speaker 9 That's not fair. Some of these trees are called Kim.

Speaker 8 That's true, that's true, that's true. You can be confused.

Speaker 9 But yeah, all the recipes in here look beautiful.

Speaker 9 And just in time for

Speaker 9 Thanksgiving, I guess.

Speaker 8 Well.

Speaker 9 I don't know about you, but I didn't grow up with Thanksgiving.

Speaker 9 I feel nothing about Thanksgiving.

Speaker 9 I mean, how are Native Americans, you know,

Speaker 9 how do they deal with this?

Speaker 8 We talk about

Speaker 8 Thanksgiving.

Speaker 23 I have a lot of friends and family that don't celebrate at all, you know, and just completely ignore it, because it is very damaging to have this mythology, you know, that just focuses on this made-up moment of history of, you know, Native and pilgrims coming together.

Speaker 23 And so it's just like, you know, so people just be like, well, you know, we're paying respect to Native peoples, but, you know, but you're also just saying like, forget about like these centuries of land, like moving, moving you off of your land, genocide, all these things that happened throughout U.S.

Speaker 23 history. And just, but, remember that time we had dinner together?

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 9 But I feel like.

Speaker 23 I feel like it is an important holiday that we do get a moment to come together, you know, and if you want to pay respect and you want to, you know, be an ally and, you know, understand Indigenous culture, you know, pay respect, think about the land that you're standing on.

Speaker 23 Learn a little bit about the history. Learn about the tribes that are living in Bayou.
Buy food from Indigenous producers. Buy a Native cookbook, you know?

Speaker 9 I love it. I was very lucky to go visit the Native American Museum in DC.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 And what I loved about it was it was kind of what you're describing, your vision of Native American culture, which is this kind of what if

Speaker 9 Native American culture had been allowed to modernize into today, and the building, the architecture is all Native American inspired. And you go in there, and what I loved about it was that

Speaker 9 it's not just misery porn, right? It's celebratory as well.

Speaker 9 And one of the rooms in there that was, it's a very bright room. I don't know if the exhibit is still there.

Speaker 9 The undertones are obviously upsetting, but the overtones, it's a bright room, and it was saying how

Speaker 9 everything in America is Native American. We use the names everywhere.
Chicago, Illinois, Minnesota,

Speaker 9 Washington professional football team.

Speaker 9 Even the logos of American spirit, cigarettes.

Speaker 9 And we actually in America see Native American names and culture everywhere, but we never hear from them.

Speaker 23 Right, yeah. And again, like, there's so much amazing stuff going on across Native America, you know, because we're starting to see more Native chefs come out.

Speaker 23 We're seeing a lot more Native media with TV shows and movies and a lot more representation of Native peoples doing what they're doing, a lot more arts, a lot more just everything, you know, and I think that it is time for us to like not be pushed into the shadows and not just be, you know, pretending like we're just on these reservation systems, these segregated communities, but you know, allowing us to be a part of everything too.

Speaker 23 And I do expect this book to be banned in Florida, but

Speaker 23 it's important because we should learn these histories because it's American history like we all share the history here, you know, and we shouldn't be afraid of history. We should learn from it.

Speaker 23 And history can be really hard to read sometimes, you know, but I feel like we should understand the pain and trauma that some people had to go through, especially, you know, Indigenous people.

Speaker 23 Because like my tribe, Lakota, like we were still battling the U.S.

Speaker 23 government until the turn of the century because like wounded knee massacre happens in 1890, and that's not ancient history, you know, that's the point when we started losing a lot of our culture because that's when we're being really forced onto the reservation systems.

Speaker 23 My grandparents' generation are going through boarding schools, having to cut their hair, learn English, learn Christianity, and just changing everything that they were from Lakota into something different.

Speaker 23 But it's just layering on so much trauma to those generations that we still feel a lot of that coming through.

Speaker 23 So, if when you really look at what happened to Indigenous peoples and other people, like black and Indigenous in American history, especially, like they're

Speaker 23 so interwoven together with the stuff that we had to go through, that you know, food can help us pull through this.

Speaker 23 You know, I think it's important we understand our histories, it's also important that we see the future.

Speaker 9 Thank you so much, Jeff.

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Speaker 9 thank you so much for preserving it and thank you for providing a rally point for people who want to be an ally. And thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

Speaker 9 And I hope you can keep sharing it because there's a lot to learn. Thank you, Chef.
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