Jordan Klepper on Trump's Quest for Peace (Prize) - "Fingers the Pulse" Special Preview

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Jordan Klepper sits down with Daily Show Supervising Producer and Segment Director Ian Berger, and Writer Scott Sherman, to discuss their upcoming special, The Daily Show Presents: Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse: Give the Man a Prize.

They talk traveling from the South, to the Pacific Northwest and all the way to Norway to unpack Trump's overt quest for the Nobel Peace Prize, despite his escalating of tensions at home and abroad.

Watch The Daily Show Presents: Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse: Give the Man a Prize on Monday December 8 at 11:30pm after The Daily Show on Comedy Central.
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Hello, and welcome to a special preview pod about the next Jordan Clepper Fingers the Pulse. Give the Man a Prize.
It's a brand new half-hour special dropping Monday, December 8th at 11:30 p.m.

on Comedy Central. I'm Ian Berger, a supervising producer and director here at The Daily Show, joined by writer Scott Sherman and, of course, the fingerer himself, Jordan Clapper.

The finger. That's the finger.
An official title. Yeah, I'm the finger himself.
The official fingerer of the United States of America. That sounds like a bad nickname from a 1940s basketball poster.

Or a Dick Tracy villain. Jordan, the finger.

I think it's a Dick Tracy villain.

It's a side villain, yeah. It's a side villain.

We're here to talk about the next installment of the Fingers the Pulse series, where we got in the world, put Jordan into some precarious situations, maybe maybe even with some naked people.

See what happens. This time we went from the deep south Mississippi to the Pacific Northwest and as far away as Norway, which I'm told is in Europe.

We start to figure that out.

I think we have a slightly better understanding of Scandinavia now.

Norway, Sweden,

Denmark, Iceland,

Finland, Iceland,

the Netherlands. Like, we have a.

I hope our sudden knowledge of Nordic culture comes through in this special. We've been wanting that to be the case for specials for quite some time.
Yes, I feel like we learned a lot.

We'll get to that. All we learned about Nordic culture, all we learned about Oslo.
But the reason we went there is because we were talking about Donald Trump's quest for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Jordan, you want to talk to us a little bit about how we came upon this story or came upon covering this?

Yeah, it's always fun crafting a fingers the pulse special to figure out what is the topic we want to dive into we sort of got back into the swing of things in the new year

um is that when we started everything's a blur right now no we started what what is it september what year

2025 was it

there was the emmys and then we start working

we just need to get the emmys slipped in there i slipped it in there this man he's only focused on the hardware i gotta tell you he uses it for status constantly he needs it every year you're like one of those beasts that if you don't get the gold every year then you just But you get the miles.

You get the miles. So we started, we were looking at what was happening in America, as we always do with the fingers of the pulse thing.

And I think the initial theme we saw was Donald Trump's war on America, where we were the bad guys. Images of what was happening in Chicago.
Portland, we're seeing troops on the streets in America.

And we started having this conversation. It usually starts with Ian and I.
We're texting stories, things that we see, interesting characters, interesting places.

It's a a mix of what is happening in America, where might we have access to, where can we talk to people about what the narrative is, and how do we sort of tell a story around that?

And these were dark images, troops on streets, violent protests or violent reactions to protests.

And then simultaneously, we started seeing Donald Trump campaigning openly for the Nobel Peace Prize, which in and of itself was so incongruous with the images of what was happening on the American streets that it sort of became

a nice

overarching theme for us of this man wants credit for being peaceful, and yet the images that we see and what we're hearing from people on the streets is anything but.

So maybe there is something in that Gemini idea of this man who wants this prize.

If Donald Trump whines about something long enough, I feel like we have a pretty good foundation to start. Yes.
Like investigating a story.

Maybe what, like, I mean, you know, I always bring this up. I don't know how we haven't done a special about toilet pressure.
You love that. And he whines about it all the time.

But, you know, we'll save that. Maybe next year.
That and windmills, they're still on the table. And any really alternative energy power source is fodder for a special in the future.

But once he grabs a hold of something, you know, it's going to have legs. Like, he's not going to drop.
He's not going to have a revelation where it's like,

you know what? I don't need this prize in my life. So this minute that he mentioned it, it was like, okay, we've got runway here.

And also, there's an infrastructure around him trying to get him the thing he wants most, right?

Not only does he say he wants the Nobel Peace Prize, not only does he campaign openly for the Nobel Peace Prize, but suddenly people in the GOP start actively campaigning for him to get the Nobel Peace Prize.

Just this dumb show of affection towards this authoritarian figure who wants anything to feel good.

There's a system built around it. And for us, who are looking for the comedy, who see this narrative as both absurd, but now adopted as reality,

that's really meaty for us to jump into. Right.
And as we always say, like, once he's talked about something enough, it trickles down.

So you go out on the street, and everybody has those talking points that he's raised. He's stopped, like, for example, when we were in Mississippi, you know, he stopped eight wars.

And obviously, the first question you're going to ask is, can you? What are those? What are those wars? What are those wars?

Which became such a funny detail in that he kept saying he stopped seven wars, then eight wars, and we saw many examples of him being unable to recall those wars, choosing the wrong countries.

Eventually, he started pulling out a note card with the names of the wars. And when we started talking to people,

I needed to. Yeah, I mean, I need it too, but I'm not going around claiming I stopped eight wars.
I would memorize the eight wars.

Nobody knew the eight wars, but everybody knew that he was deserving of it, especially in the MAGA sphere. So we would ask people, like, why is he so peaceful?

And again, what we always discover in these pieces, like,

I often think a finger-of-the-pulse piece is us testing the efficacy of propaganda. Where has it gotten into the American bloodstream? How far downstream is it?

And so, this war narrative, it took hold. People just took it as fact.

They supported it wholeheartedly, and they saw him as the peace prize,

should be the peace prize recipient. Right.

It's also interesting because the fact that he's brought it up so much meant that they're ready to defend it and kind of pitch him.

But I feel like for the most part, this is a group of people who've never thought about the peace prize in their life. No.
Ever. No.
Like ever, ever, ever. But now it's a thing.

I mean, for most people, it's a once-a-year thing where you get a notification on your phone from the New York Times and it's like, oh, okay.

And now I'm going to go back to sleep because it's actually 7 a.m.

not Norway time right now.

But also, no one's ever campaigned for it. This is the most bizarre execution of trying to win a Nobel Prize ever.
You do the work. It's about the work.
It's about the work. You achieve the peace.

Trump does the Trump magic trick, which is he creates a story of victimhood. So even if people haven't checked in on this, it's not that Donald Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

It's presented as Donald Trump isn't getting the Nobel Peace Prize. These people aren't giving him the thing that he deserves.
He's this victim here.

And so when you go on the street and you ask them about it, in their head, they're like, oh yeah, this is something that the man is keeping from him. So he must be deserving of it.

Let's advocate for that. Right.
And it's like somehow the Nobel Peace Prize committee in Oslo, Norway is somehow then wrapped up into like deep state oppression.

Like somehow there's some coordination between them and like the deep state in the United States, which is amazing.

This is what is so fun about these specials is when we do get to leave America and then land in Norway,

what do you guys think about this? And it's always shocking.

When you talk to people on the streets in Oslo, Norway about what they think of Donald Trump, they're flabbergasted at what is happening over there. It's just so clear as day how

thirsty for attention he is, how stupid it is, how childish it is. They don't hold back.

There's such a a nice culture. They say it in the kindest, most like

Scandinavian Midwest way as they could.

But they're baffled by it. And then when you even, we even sat down with a woman who was chair of the Nobel Prize committee, who is so

even-keeled and thoughtful about it, so far away from being engaged in the day in, day out,

advocating for a prize. And just somebody who's like, no,

this is what the prize is about. This is what we look at.

It's refreshing to see how far away from the conversation in America the reality is. Right.
Like,

it's funny because

you try, and comedically, trying to

get her to

react to Trump is funny and interesting, but she wouldn't take the B,

which

kudos to her. But also, I think

there is some actual,

I feel like, a little fear of retribution or like a fear of becoming part of his story. Like,

if if you're pushing back

on him in any way in his mind,

you suddenly become part of the story. And I feel like Norway, the Nobel Peace Prize committee, they don't want to be part of the story.
They are focused on doing what they do.

Well, it's so also just antithetical to the prize itself. Like, I'm sure nobody on that committee was ever fearing retribution from

like

Doctors Without Borders is coming for you.

If we don't give this group the peace prize, they're going to put the minds back in the ground.

Like, it's not a concern.

This is the effect, though. This guy has, he just sucks up all information, and there is that general fear out there.
Even when we talk to people on the street, I think the

Norwegian culture is less camera-hungry than American culture, which we found out very quickly.

But people were opinionated off camera, and when you asked them if they wanted to be on camera, most people were very reticent to do it, partially because culturally they didn't feel a need to be on TV.

Healthy. I can see that.

Very logical, a very logical approach to that. I can see why there's a happier culture there.

But I think secondarily, you see how there is this idea, even if it feels silly for them to think this is retribution, somewhere in the back of their head, they're like, oh, this vindictive person

who is in charge of the world would be mad at this thing. So perhaps I will demure.
And you can just see how

that finds its way across the ocean. Yeah, it's incredible.

But as you said, it was very interesting to talk to people on the ground because they had good, like, kind of informed takes about his ambition to get the prize, but they were not ready to go on TV.

Whereas when we go around America, we're like, would you like to be on camera? People are like, what? Of course. This is my time.
I have an opinion. I can't wait to see.

I wore this hat for this reason. I bought this hat three years ago with hopes that some new screw would show up and get me on camera.

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I think what was interesting and fun for this special is

we get to follow this quest for a Nobel Peace Prize, but then also to go to places where there is unrest.

And so for us, as we were talking about the Peace Prize and sort of tracking Donald Trump's desire for it, we also are watching what's happening in Portland, watching what's happening in Chicago, looking for an opportunity to go and talk about this very dark story, this scary story.

I think we constantly were sharing stories of what's happening in Chicago, these ice raids. And I do think it poses a challenge for a show like ours, which is a comedic show.

And there's like we want to go to places to shine a light on things that are important.

I think the purpose of a Figures of the Pole special and piece is to try to be reflective of what people are talking about. And that seemed to be the major conversation in the country right now.

But also, there's some places where comedy should be, and there's other places where perhaps it's not adding to the conversation.

And so, we kept looking for an opportunity where we could use what we do and tell that story. Yeah, I think we were wrestling with

the right time to go to either Chicago or Portland. And there were like, we kept almost going.
And then

suddenly something materialized, and it was a lot of

dongs.

Questions for you: What is the president talking about then? And secondarily, where are your pants?

Yeah, well, let me start with the pants. Being naked is a form of vulnerability.
So, this is an act of protest. Absolutely.
Nudity is making a point. What is the point nudity is making?

That we are not threatening. I have no weapons.

I have nowhere to hide them. It's a way to be heard.
It's a way to be heard. It's a way to be noticed.
How hard is it for you to keep looking up at me? I don't know where to look.

There's dicks and breasts everywhere. I know.
I'm not going to interview people like this. I don't know.

Dongs. Follow the dongs.
That's what we've,

if there's dongs, always follow the dongs. They will lead you to comedy, gold, and or your story.
And

there was a naked bike ride taking place in Portland, Oregon, that

for us, we followed the dongs and it took us right there. It was a protest against ice.

And

being naked, I guess, is a common

form of protest in Portland? Well, I think it's just a way to commute in Portland.

It's also used to protest. I mean, they protest all the time.

In their commuting, they often just protest. So it was very natural to protect.
It's a weird thing for a cold, wet city.

It's a very cold, wet city that was very open to being naked. Bracing northwest temperatures don't really mesh well with

appendages

that are affected by such weather. It feels like it could have been like, oh, this protest, it's a fleece protest.
I'd be like, that makes sense.

You're all going to put on your fleece.

The point of this one was because what was happening, and

what we talk about, what we cover, and what we saw there as at this ICE facility, comedy found its way there as a tactic of protest.

Suddenly, these images of people dressed as chickens and frogs made the news because what we were witnessing was the Trump administration trying to frame Portland as a very violent Antifa-laden city.

And when you see images of ICE agents pulling up their weapons on a person dressed as a frog, it de-escalates the situation. Or

that's the attempt, and that's the way in which the media started to frame it. And the naked bike ride was an extension of that.

They saw that things were getting really hot in Portland, and many of the people who were organizing the naked bike ride talked about how this is proving we have nothing to hide. We want this image.

There is aggressive action being taken at these ICE facility. We want to draw attention towards that and we want to show you we are approaching this in a in a comical and unthreatening manner.

We're saying we're not going to give you a reason to come at us.

And

in one of the clips, I think we could maybe share, maybe not, it's dark, but the clarinetist

being arrested. And I can think of no more dystopian sentence.

And you come across these a lot in the past couple of years, but you find yourself saying the sentence: the clarinetist was thrown to the ground by federal agents and arrested.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's it's unbelievable. It felt like an encapsulation of what living in America is like right now.

I will say when we showed up at the naked rally, it was cold. It was rainy.
I didn't expect many people to be there. And there were hundreds and hundreds of naked people there.

And after you get past the shock of so many naked people and dons, it really was an uplifting, energetic vibe. It was people who were passionate about what was happening.

What was happening with these ICE agents, you saw these images was horrifying. And there are so many people who are like, we want to show up.
We want to show solidarity.

There was joy, there was comedy.

I'm often asked, like, what is the role of comedy in these weird, dark, and trying times? I think in the role of protest, this is the best use of comedy.

It was organic, it was thoughtful, and it was joyful, and yet that joy was being put up against

these aggressive actions. And to me, it was like, this is joy as an act of protest.
And that was very life-affirming.

And interesting to see, we take that to the ICE facility, which is this sort of joyous act of solidarity. And when we arrive, like there are

these people dressed as animals. There's more protests.
There's music. There's song.
There is this feeling of protest. But there's also men who are shooting pepper bullets into the crowd.

There is an act of aggression that's happening. There's positive chance mixed with some right-wing agitators who are on the outside who are screaming epithets at the naked people.

They're being anti-LGBTQ. You're hearing a lot of stressful things.
And then as Scott says, suddenly we see an aggressive act where these ICE agents push into the crowd,

into a band that are literally dressed as bananas, playing music, shoved into the ground. Pepper spray is being shot out.

Our camera guy is coughing and pulled out because he's got pepper spray in his lungs.

You're like, this, it's such a chaotic, wild moment that's filled with both joy and hatred and anger and righteous anger and cruelty and beauty and fucking America right now.

But like and like 10 minutes before that, you were talking to a very stoned frog. Yes.
Like that, like I couldn't, what's what's

what's threatening about that? It's like a very stoned guy in a frog costume. Talking to a stoned frog and also an incredibly articulate man in a chicken outfit.
Chicken. Yeah.

He was so smart about what he was saying and there was such intentionality behind it. And that intentionality was clearly not I want violence.
Right.

And yeah, and I he became his voice was like, I trusted him. I actually trusted his analysis when he was just like, it's not us.
We're not doing this. And I'm like, you sound more rational, Mr.

Chicken Suit Man, than

any

administration official commenting on what was playing out here.

What was interesting about that guy was that he was kind of a character in the story before we went there because of Christy No.

Her team put out a video of her on the roof of the facility, quote-unquote, staring down Antifa thugs. I think it's almost how they described it.
And they foolishly put a video out with

that copy attached to it. And the video pans down to the street.
And it's a motherfucking guy in a chicken costume just leaning against a fence, looking at her.

And like, they painted it as like, look at this brave woman standing up to like a very hairy situation. And

they presented video that told the complete opposite story. So then it was like, we have to go.
Hopefully we'll talk to that guy. We have to go.

We have to talk to Chicken Man, who I think you are right, very intentional in his actions, in his dress and why he was there. which I think proved effective.

We even talked to the mayor, who showed some reticence in, and not his support for what was happening, but I think he was nervous about this getting out of control in the sense that what we started to see is there are a lot of people showing up, and more and more people kept showing up day after day.

And you hear stories of as more people come there, people come with different

intentions, different desires, and they're trying to control what the narrative is, what the purpose of this protest is.

You're also seeing these agents at the ICE facility who are in and of themselves trying to, from what we could see, you know, show force, show strength.

When they cleared out these protesters, they did so in a very aggressive fashion that was trying to scare people.

It seemed as if they were trying to scare people away, to keep them as far away from this facility as they could.

The images of what happened, watching people get thrown into the ground, like that in and of itself was trying to send a message and create images of violent protests that I did not see when we were there.

We saw these acts of aggression coming from the people in uniform against other people who appeared harmless from what we saw.

And so you could see also where this is boiling and could overflow in a way and be contextualized in a bunch of different ways. And that's what became, I think, you could just feel the tension there.

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I will say it's kind of weird to talk about things we didn't capture on camera because we were kind of exiting thanks to the pepper spray in the air.

One of my favorite moments from that was there was a right-wing agitator guy who had a megaphone.

He was like a block away from the ICE facility and he was yelling at the protesters, trying to pick a fight and like even personal attacks.

And then we learned he didn't get closer to the ICE facility, even though he was there to support ICE because they had a restraining order on him because he's obviously a crazy person.

Ice had a restraint or ice had a restraining order. He couldn't get close to the facility.
He's just such a funny person.

Well, I remember when we first saw him, too, I was nervous seeing him.

He was very much trying to incite some sort of action.

He wanted content for whatever his feed was. Yes.

And that's where even us as a show are wanting to talk to people. But everybody has, again, different intentions there.
And that guy wanted as much attention as he could live streaming.

And clearly he was just trolling every person that was coming by. And people are keyed up.

And I think at that moment, I'm like, oh, no, he's trolling and saying something awful to people as they walk by. He's crossing lines as people walk by.

And I'm like, all it takes is that one person to take a swing at this guy, to engage in a way that he's live streaming.

And we also heard stories of that happening the week prior of other right-wing media sources,

citizen journalists who were coming there, engaging with people, live streaming, and crafting this. this other narrative.
You can see, you can see it's like, oh, this is the intention.

This could happen. Is it going to happen? Quite frankly,

because he couldn't get close, you also had, and because so many people had been there for days, if not weeks, you had other people

so familiar with him that they kept just trolling him back and heckling him back in a way that was, it was, it was hilarious. It was very funny.

It was a little bit like people insulting each other who know each other very well, like, fuck you, Jeff, fuck you, Diane.

Because the headfields of the people,

but they are neighbors. Yeah, exactly.

Also, could you mow your lawn? Yeah, exactly. Screw you.
I'm not going to. Your car alarm was going off this morning.
All morning, Jeff. Fucking fix it.

Yeah, so again, like

sad,

stressful, but completely absurd, the situation. And I feel like we stumbled into capturing all of that.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, for a I think we were there as something happened.

Something that was complicated, beautiful, scary, violent,

and absurd. Yeah.

We were able to capture that day and talk to some really interesting people.

Also, I had to strip down on a very cold Portland day and lose some of my dignity, which I think I do that for our audience and for future Emmy consideration. It's

so brave. Thank you.
It's so brave, thank you. Now, we did the opposite in Norway.
You put on a lot of clothes.

Heavy clothes.

This is the same thing. They met with a different absurd group.
Yes, this is.

What has been so fun about making this special is

the costumes. Costumes.

I'm naked.

We talk to protesters. We see ICE agents.

We've had pepper spray at our throats. I've been naked on a bike ride.
I've played with Viking reenactors and dressed as a Viking and got got chased and injured by Viking reenactors.

This is all one special. Yeah, it's a lot of this special.

So, the Viking reenactors, like we talked about, they kind of remind us of our version of that as the Civil War reenactors. But these guys were just as dedicated and sticklers for authenticity.

Yeah, part of the narrative of this special, if you see the special, is that

we wanted to talk to some, we talked to plenty of people who are from Norway, people in Oslo, people from the Nobel Prize Committee, as well as wanting to extend that to other groups in Norway.

And we saw this, found this Viking reenactment group and sort of wove it into our storyline and also a chance to earnestly talk to these Norwegians about Donald Trump and the Nobel Peace Prize.

And they came ready to play. Yes.
And they,

surprisingly, I think our kind of almost Mr. Act is that we would assume that they could relate to Donald Trump in some ways.

This is a group that has dedicated their free time to almost existing a thousand years ago. They also had designs on Conquering Greenland.
Yeah, exactly.

But they're really, really nice people, very thoughtful, had

kind of could see right through Trump, which is very funny.

And

it feels like it was like a drinking club that had swords.

It did feel like that. This is an ideal combination.
Right.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, this is not a, it wasn't a guns crew. It was a swords and shields crew.
Yeah.

There was bloodshed. I saw blood from you.
From me. And I saw blood from them.
They cut their hands. Did they cut their hands? This guy had like

three knuckles that were bloodied. We sort of showed up on the beach in front of a fjord.
Was that a fjord? I don't know. It was fjord or fjord adjacent? It was fjord adjacent.
Fjordi? It was fjordi.

It was a little fjordy. It was a little fjordy.
It was beautiful. And they were like, all right, we're just going to start hitting each other.

And we're like, oh, okay. And so we captured that.
Can we talk? We talked a little bit. And then I got into some traditional Viking apparel.
And we were going to engage in a little bit of

battle/slash conversation. And sort of out of almost nowhere, I got charged.

I'm good. I'm good.

Okay. Good, I'm good.
Yeah, I'm totally good. I'm totally good.
You know what?

Fuck the fighting. How about I just buy you guys a round of drinks and then we just do the whole prize thing? Yeah, okay.

I ran.

I saw in his eyes that he was not going to stop.

At that point, he was not reenacting.

Yeah, it was just.

It was me that kicked in. It kicked in at 11 a.m.

I fell,

cut my nose potentially broke my shoulder if I do want to say that if like the directors guild or sag after or osha is listening to this i just want to say i was told that

they uh they have no authority in norway so that's why we're able to do this that's what i was told i don't know who told me that

if sag is listening i want you to have my back as the class action lawsuit uh is enacted is this the first time you've spilled the blood on a special? That's a great question. Have I spilled blood?

Now, the last special I had a broken foot that we had to edit out. So that was just because I had very weak bones.
I think that's that's a

if you are a true fan of these specials, sort of a through light of these is my weak, hollow, bird-like bone structure. But I think that extends to our entire nerd staff.

Our great producer, Abby, also had a broken bone on the special before then. That's right.
My time is next. I'm next.
I I actually thought I broke my foot before we went on the road to Norway.

I shit you not. I was like, did I break my foot? How funny is this? But it'll happen the next time.
It will.

We are a weak bunch. We spend a lot of time indoors, not a lot of vitamin D in our system, so our bones are too weak.
I think this is the first blood we've had, though, right? No blood on January 6th.

Just, yeah, we were there on January 6th. I think there was no bloodshed.
No, not my bloodshed. No.
Yes.

Hungary, I don't remember anything. No, this is.

because of the design of the helmet.

I don't know who designed the Viking helmets, but basically, they made a helmet with like a piece of metal sticking back into your face that feels like a weapon pointed at yourself.

We even joked as I put the helmet on as to what is the point of that. It seemed as if it only could get somebody injured and doesn't stop any kind of attack.
And that was proved to be true.

It worked perfectly.

Yeah.

It was like, this thing could cut my nose. And it cut my nose.
Cut my nose. Yeah.
A nice little cut right here. But it's healing great.

A big shout out to whatever the makers of Norwegian Neosporin,

whoever they are, I got Norwegian Neosporin and it's worked swimmingly. So thank you.

Neospurin.

I'm so sorry. Sounds better.
It is called Neosporin. Spurin.
It is.

So what I'm hearing is, Emmy voters, you spilled blood for your art. I'm just saying.

Come on. Yes.
Show us some love.

We put prize in the name of our title, so therefore

it's a nod to what's happening internationally, but it's also very much a desperate plea to Emmy voters.

That's great. And I think putting the blood on camera will actually earn some votes.
So nice work.

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You know what was an interesting find in this special is in talking to the woman who was on the Nobel Prize committee,

we discussed the ways in which someone could get the Nobel Prize and

I think we had sort of approached this special

ironically saying how important it would be to give Donald Trump this prize because he wants it even if he doesn't deserve it give the man what he wants so he doesn't cancel the late night television show that we're a part of or any

or run for a third term that was part of the conversation and the images that we saw on the American streets are anything but peaceful so when we went there to Norway to talk to somebody about this

We were surprised to hear, like, this is not a crazy idea for Donald Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize.

There's been many people who are less than perfect who have gotten it. The Nobel Peace Prize is not looking for perfect people.
They're looking for peace that is achieved, looking for some sort of

proof of efficacy in

the plight of peace. And beyond that, she also talked about it as being an organization that can actively engage peaceful talk, that it is in some ways been used as an aspirational prize.

Even talked about like the controversial Barack Obama Nobel Peace Prize. Like in and of itself, that was sort of an aspirational peace prize of the things that you could achieve because of it.

So I think we were a little bit shocked to see that this request, perhaps Donald Trump has not achieved the things that he says he has achieved.

A lot of people put a lot of weight on what he's done in the Middle East, which hasn't really proven itself out in a way that I think the Nobel Prize Committee is convinced of.

That being said, the idea of giving somebody a prize because it nudges them in a direction to act in a more peaceful manner is something that is on the table and could very well happen in the next year.

Yeah, I think it's a very interesting thing because

we were not that familiar, obviously, with this award, but like the history, like Alfred Nobel, like he invented dynamite and then kind of like changed his life.

So in a way, the prize could represent that. Now, Donald Trump refused to rent apartments to black people.
Do I think he would do that very same thing again? Yes, I do. 100%.

I do not think he's changed from that person. But you never know.

He wants that prize, though. It is.

It's the dog who catches the carrot, right? It's the greyhound.

It's not a carrot. When the greyhound catches

metaphor, what dog metaphor are you going to do? What metaphor am I going to go? The dog method.

You guys play high lie. High lie is a thing.
What is is it?

It's the greyhound when it catches a bunny never wants to race again. The best in the show.
Well, I mean, I think there's a sort of corollary to actually our wealth. And

he very famously wanted an Emmy. He wanted that prize.
It's kind of haunted him a little. And

I get it. What I'm saying is I get it.
Yeah, 100%.

The thirst for it. But then you get the prize and you're like, all right, that was a nice 30 seconds, but it's back to work.

Is that how we work if we get the net me? We're just right back into it. Back to work.
That is

dedication, guys. Well, I think we should wrap this up.
This was great.

I'm very excited for people to see this.

What do you want people to take away from this? You know what?

Same thing. I think, quite frankly, it's always

a real honor and luxury to get to do these specials. We learn a bunch when we get to do that.

I love going out and talking to people and see what the vibe around the country is and also add some context to a story that we don't know as much about. Getting this

Norwegian perspective was really fun and eye-opening for us. But the stuff that sticks with me is what's happening here in America, what's happening in Portland.

And I do think we get caught up in this, Donald Trump gets caught up in this quest for be seen as this one person. Quite frankly, I wish he was seen as this peaceful person.

But I will take away what we saw in Portland, which was a very troubling place to be. And the aggression that we saw on the ground, mixed with

the positive energy of people coming together to push back against that, that to me is the tension that exists in America right now.

And whether or not you give that a prize, whether or not you condemn that, like that's the world that we're in right now and that we're forced to confront and be a part of.

So that, to me, is sort of the core of this thing. Yeah.
I think I would like to just add one thing and make sure you get your calcium and so that your bones are not, you know, very brittle.

I would say like vitamin D, calcium, like, guys, that's, I hope the audience takes that. Yeah, if they watch this special, they can walk away from it and get a vitamin D supplement.

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All right, we got to save something for the actual special. Thank you for listening.
Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Jordan.
I'm Ian Berger. Catch the full.
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