Trump Pauses Tariffs, Crashes the Stock Market & Threatens China | Antoni Porowski

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Michael Kosta on Trump doubling down then ditching Canada and Mexico tariffs, the GOP pretending the plunging stock market is normal, and the president pissing off China. Plus, Josh Johnson takes inspiration from Trump flip-flopping on tariffs.

Desi Lydic heads to Michigan to get to the bottom of the state's "buy back" initiative that turned out to be refurbishing guns instead of destroying them.

Bestselling author and culinary expert Antoni Porowski talks to Michael Kosta about hosting his new National Geographic show, “No Taste Like Home,” which uses a dish significant to each guest as an entry point to a journey through their family and ancestral history. They discuss the extensive research process that goes into the show, some of the most emotional moments of the season, and why food is so important to Porowski and how he connects with his own family.

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Speaker 3 From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Joe with your host, Michael Costen.

Speaker 3 I'm Michael Costa.

Speaker 4 We've got so much to talk about tonight. The U.S.
economy is down bad.

Speaker 5 Apparently, America likes guns, and Trump broke a campaign promise. What?

Speaker 6 So let's get into it.

Speaker 6 I'm going to come.

Speaker 6 I'm going to come. Being president comes with a lot of pretty cool powers.

Speaker 5 You can write executive orders, you get one free checked bag on Air Force One, and you even get an uncensored feed of C-SPAN, which

Speaker 9 but for Donald Trump, the power he enjoys the most is the power to impose tariffs.

Speaker 12 Tariffs are easy, they're fast, they're efficient, and they bring fairness. We're going to bring so many things back to our country, and the thing that's going to get us there is tariffs.

Speaker 12 We'll take in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs, and we're going to make our country so strong and so rich, it will never be so rich.

Speaker 13 Tariffs.

Speaker 12 It's a beautiful word, isn't it?

Speaker 3 Tariff.

Speaker 14 It's a beautiful word. It's why I named my daughter Teriphany.

Speaker 5 This guy's so horny for tariffs, isn't he?

Speaker 16 I love any word with big natural double Fs.

Speaker 9 According to Donald Trump, tariffs are great.

Speaker 5 And I also want our country to be rich without any negative consequences.

Speaker 9 So let's see how he's imposed tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

Speaker 14 And let's sit back and let's watch that economy roar, baby.

Speaker 10 Tonight, the stock market dropping more than 600 points.

Speaker 1 U.S. stock markets plunged for the second day in a row.
We've seen consumer confidence tank. Layoff numbers across the U.S.

Speaker 18 are the highest they've been since 2020.

Speaker 1 The R-word is back, thanks in large part to tariffs.

Speaker 3 Wait, the R word is back?

Speaker 19 Tariffs brought back the R word.

Speaker 10 So I guess I can say it.

Speaker 1 Wall Street banks are starting to raise a red flag that recession odds have become unsettlingly high.

Speaker 7 Right, right, that R word.

Speaker 9 Of course, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 11 I can be such a recession sometimes.

Speaker 7 By the way.

Speaker 9 Is recession an R word now? Who thinks the word recession is offensive? Finance, bros?

Speaker 19 Did they get woke?

Speaker 19 Before we discuss the impending R word, we begin by acknowledging that we are on the ancestral grounds of Capital Grill, where Chad was unjustly removed by the bartender before he could get a chance to cheat on his wife.

Speaker 11 Sup, Chad.

Speaker 9 So basically, Trump said the tariffs are going to be a quick and painless way to get rich.

Speaker 3 And now that it turns out we're not all shitting gold, Republicans have moved into their new talking point.

Speaker 17 Hey, nobody said this was going to be easy.

Speaker 11 Trust the process.

Speaker 12 There'll be a little disturbance,

Speaker 12 but we're okay with that.

Speaker 20 There's going to be a little bit of pain going into this.

Speaker 15 It is going to be painful. And if I have to pay a little bit more for something, I'm all for it.

Speaker 11 We're going to have to suffer through some bad news.

Speaker 21 There's going to be a short period of time where there'll be some higher prices on certain products. It's not inflation.
That's nonsense.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 22 nonsense.

Speaker 9 It's not inflation, people.

Speaker 19 It's just higher prices on food and cars and gas and every other product we import from our biggest trading partners.

Speaker 3 But do you know what?

Speaker 9 We might be in for some hard times, but tariffs are Donald Trump's whole thing.

Speaker 17 And if there's one thing I know about Donald Trump, he's a man who sticks to his guns.

Speaker 11 Breaking news into CNN, President Trump's officially delaying tariffs on Mexico and Canada.

Speaker 6 After all that, tariffs are now on hold?

Speaker 5 Trump just backed away from those tariffs like it was a longtime friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 6 tariffs are on, they're delayed, they're off. Who knows if they'll come back or when or for how long?

Speaker 23 Look, I'm not a big business guy, but quick question.

Speaker 19 Does anyone know if businesses need to make decisions more than four hours in advance?

Speaker 9 So it appears the only silver lining in this pointless trade war is that at least we're only fighting with Canada and Mexico.

Speaker 17 You know?

Speaker 9 If you're going to pick a fight, pick a fight with two sissy countries you can beat, right?

Speaker 3 Right?

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 The Chinese embassy in the U.S. tweeting earlier this week, quote, if war is what the U.S.
wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war, or any other type of war, we're ready to fight till the end.

Speaker 3 Oh, shit.

Speaker 16 China.

Speaker 6 China don't play.

Speaker 7 They're like, if you got beef, we got broccoli, bitch.

Speaker 10 Let's go.

Speaker 17 Listen, Donald, Canada and Mexico are one thing, but please don't piss off China.

Speaker 8 I know you wrote the art of the deal, but they wrote the art of war.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 5 And I think a trade war with China might lead to, at best, a devastating economic depression or at worst, nuclear destruction of most of American cities. Or as Trump might say.

Speaker 12 May there be a little disturbance.

Speaker 9 Look, for more on Trump's tariff policy and its economic effects, we go live to the White House with Josh Johnson.

Speaker 9 Josh.

Speaker 9 Josh.

Speaker 5 What exactly is going on with these tariffs?

Speaker 18 Costa, this is nothing we haven't seen before. These economic decisions are smart, so everyone should stop throwing around the R word.

Speaker 11 Oh, recession.

Speaker 18 Okay, everybody should stop throwing around both R words.

Speaker 18 In fact, these tariffs are going to help out all my N words.

Speaker 3 Your.

Speaker 18 My net gains, Costa.

Speaker 3 Right, right, of course.

Speaker 8 Of course, your net gains.

Speaker 18 Hey, hey, you're not an economist. That's not your word to say, okay?

Speaker 18 Point is, these tariffs are necessary. I've been talking to President Trump, and I can speak exactly to his intentions on tariffs.
I mean, come on. Y'all heard Donald Trump.

Speaker 18 He said during the campaign, we're doing this. It's an economic street fight, so you better get on board because the pain is worth it to bring back manufacturing, even if it leads to higher prices.

Speaker 18 We are not backing down.

Speaker 5 Okay, but the American people don't like higher prices.

Speaker 18 Then forget the whole thing.

Speaker 3 Tariffs off.

Speaker 3 All right?

Speaker 18 I don't even know who suggested it.

Speaker 6 Trump did.

Speaker 9 He said they're necessary to bring back America's economy.

Speaker 18 And they are, which is why they're back on.

Speaker 9 So we are doing tariffs?

Speaker 18 Damn right we are. I ain't scared of shit.

Speaker 9 Not even more expensive housing?

Speaker 3 Tariffs are off.

Speaker 9 But that will increase the trade deficit.

Speaker 24 On again.

Speaker 9 What about the price of breakfast?

Speaker 18 Off in the morning, on at night.

Speaker 9 But Canada is retaliating.

Speaker 18 Off with Canada, on with China. We'll go to war with China.

Speaker 3 I don't give a f Josh.

Speaker 17 China has nukes.

Speaker 18 No tariffs on China. In fact,

Speaker 7 we're part of China now.

Speaker 18 All hail, President Xi, you're the snake, motherfucker.

Speaker 24 Get on board. Josh.

Speaker 4 Josh.

Speaker 17 How can Trump run this country like this?

Speaker 11 Tariffs, no tariffs. We're Chinese.
We're not Chinese.

Speaker 9 It's unsustainable.

Speaker 18 Get off his ass, Costa. All Trump's trying to do is stand firm on his principles, even though he doesn't know what they are yet.

Speaker 18 No matter the cost, although cost really shouldn't be a single dollar. And f what anybody thinks, but please nobody get upset.

Speaker 7 Josh, Josh, be realistic.

Speaker 5 Part of being a leader is knowing there are trade-offs to every decision.

Speaker 17 It's not possible for everyone to have a net gain.

Speaker 18 Whoa, I thought I told you, Costa, that's our word, okay?

Speaker 18 Me and my economists are going to f ⁇ you up.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. Josh Johnson, everybody.

Speaker 3 Josh Johnson, when we come back, we get guns off the streets. Don't go away.
Matt Bays?

Speaker 3 Welcome back to the Daily Show.

Speaker 5 There are millions of guns in America, but one 40-year-old virgin is trying to change that.

Speaker 6 Desi Leidick has more.

Speaker 1 It's no surprise America has a gun problem. In fact, even if our legislators could pass comprehensive gun reform, there's already over 400 million guns in this country.

Speaker 1 A number statisticians call really high and fing huge. But one brave Michigander is taking action into his own hands, and it's not someone you would expect.

Speaker 1 I've been listening to a priest since I binged fleabag.

Speaker 1 How does a priest get involved with getting guns off the streets?

Speaker 20 In America, it's a lot easier to get a gun than to get rid of a gun. There is this sense that in churches, we're just going to pray for this gun problem.

Speaker 20 But church people are sick of thoughts and prayers, too.

Speaker 1 You know it's bad when a priest is sick of thoughts and prayers. I mean, that's your bread and butter.

Speaker 1 And just as Jesus turned water into wine, Father Yah turned prayers into action and started a a gun buyback program.

Speaker 25 The gun buyback program is aimed at reducing gun violence. They're popular, and that's because it's your choice to turn in your gut.

Speaker 1 And because this is America, people are more willing to part with their guns if they get something out of it.

Speaker 20 The first buyback we did, we had $5,000 worth of gift cards, and the line was two miles long, and we gave away the gift cards in 20 minutes.

Speaker 1 What kind of gift cards are we talking about here?

Speaker 20 Usually Target.

Speaker 3 Target?

Speaker 1 Target. I'm not allowed in Target anymore.
I had a bit of a run-in with the law involving an incident with a cheese grater.

Speaker 20 Do we want to save that for later? We'll take care of that in confession.

Speaker 3 Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 And what happens to the guns once they're collected? Do they go to that farm upstate with all the dogs?

Speaker 26 After guns are processed, Michigan State Police send them to a company in Missouri called Gunbusters, and they destroy parts of the guns.

Speaker 20 The state police then was contracting with a company called Gunbusters who has a gun pulverizer.

Speaker 1 Ah, the pulverizer. That was my signature move when I was on the amateur wrestling circuit.

Speaker 20 No, no, it's it.

Speaker 20 These things destroy weapons.

Speaker 1 A deadly machine that destroys deadly guns? Problem solved.

Speaker 11 This machine called the pulverizer can turn this

Speaker 11 into this.

Speaker 13 Most of the metal left behind can be recycled.

Speaker 1 I love a name that says exactly what it is. Busting guns.
No deception there.

Speaker 20 But they weren't busting them.

Speaker 1 Come again?

Speaker 20 We found out they are not really destroying them. They were salvaging most of the gun and reselling the parts on the internet.
People can make their own ghost guns.

Speaker 1 So gun busters is actually contributing to making more guns.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jeez. Sorry.

Speaker 3 Shit.

Speaker 3 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 1 Turns out they were using the pulverizer more for evil than good. Doing only partial destruction means that the guns can be born again, and not in the Jesus-y way.

Speaker 1 I reached out to speak with gunbusters, but much like the fate of their guns, they ghosted me.

Speaker 1 If I can't find answers to this gun problem in God's fancy buildings, maybe I could find some in the state's fancy buildings. Michigan State Representative Natalie Price.

Speaker 1 How the f is it legal for gunbusters to get away with this? Because of the Gun Act of 1968. Sure.
The famous 1967 Gun Act. 1968.
The 1968. Gun Act, the Act of.

Speaker 1 When we only destroy that narrow part of the weapon, a receiver and a frame, which includes the serial number, the firearm is considered by federal law to be fully destroyed.

Speaker 1 Yes, receiver and the frame.

Speaker 1 So just to reiterate, under this old-timey law, the Gun Control Act of 1968, the receiver or the frame by itself is considered to be a firearm.

Speaker 1 So if gunbusters tell you they've destroyed the firearm, technically they only have to have destroyed that one tiny piece, leaving the rest to be potentially used for ghost guns.

Speaker 1 There's no good way to keep track of how many there are. From 2016 to 2021, there was over a thousand percent increase in ghost guns.
Holy shit, a thousand percent?

Speaker 1 That's like four ghost guns for every ghost. Luckily Michigan has a solution.

Speaker 1 I can't tell you what we are doing here in Michigan which is partnering with state police and a company that will fully pulverize and destroy the complete weapon right here in Michigan.

Speaker 1 Women get shit done.

Speaker 1 So it seems the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a pulverizer. But this time, Michigan has their very own state-run pulverizer,

Speaker 1 ensuring that the guns that they receive are completely destroyed.

Speaker 1 I went back to the church to spread the good word to Father Yaw, only to discover he had taken it upon himself to fulfill his own prophecy.

Speaker 20 There's more that needs to be done. We're planning to actually destroy the weapons ourselves with chop saws.

Speaker 1 That sounds dangerous.

Speaker 20 I can take you to a place where we're practicing and you can watch it happen.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 1 Sure, just follow a priest I just met to the set of the movie Saw, but for guns. What could go wrong?

Speaker 20 And that goes in the disposal here.

Speaker 1 Three guns down. Now just $399,999,997 more to go.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Davis. Let me come back.
Anthony Paramsci will be joining on the show, so don't go wrong.

Speaker 1 Welcome back to Bailey's Show.

Speaker 9 My guest tonight is a best-selling author, culinary expert, and host of National Geographic's No Taste Like Home.

Speaker 6 Please welcome Anthony Perovski.

Speaker 6 Nice. Wow, thank you for coming.

Speaker 9 Thank you for having me.

Speaker 10 This show is amazing.

Speaker 7 It made me hungry.

Speaker 15 It made me emotional.

Speaker 13 It made you hungry for testicles.

Speaker 3 It made me hungry for testicles.

Speaker 23 For those of you that are unaware, maybe watching online, there was a clip before this that mentioned testicles.

Speaker 3 Yep, it's always good to have a little bit of, yep, but I mean we're all, look, we're all hungry for testicles.

Speaker 10 Did you know that this show would get as elevated emotionally as it does?

Speaker 13 Yes and no. I mean, the original, it's look, it's National Geographic, which for me, I've been reading the magazine since I was a kid.
We had a subscription.

Speaker 13 It's like the iconic, you know, yellow rectangle.

Speaker 13 But I think once we started going down, and each episode is a little different, but once it does get personal and you kind of, everyone's just trying to answer that question of why I am the way I am, and learning that we're all standing on the shoulders of giants and we have all these like people in our lineage that we can kind of like explain why we are the way we are.

Speaker 13 I think it's sort of so I would say it was like a mix, I think, with you know, someone like Aquafina was very emotional because

Speaker 13 she was going back to South Korea. It was the first time since she'd been there since her mother passed away when she was four years old.

Speaker 13 And then we had a bit of like a bromance with Justin in Italy. So it kind of like ran the gamut a little bit.

Speaker 11 Explain to those that haven't seen it about how you start at home with this family dish, a favorite dish, and you trace it back to the origin.

Speaker 11 And not only that, but through jeans as well, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, all of it.

Speaker 13 So it starts out with like a dish that shaped the guest. And it could have been something that was enjoyed during like a special family occasion or a birthday.

Speaker 13 Or for like James Marzon, it was chicken fried steak that his mom was making in Oklahoma City as a single mom just to like feed the kids.

Speaker 13 And then we go to their country of origin, we explore what was going on culturally, politically, socially, and then we kind of break down the dish and the elements while introducing.

Speaker 3 It's a lot going on.

Speaker 13 No, while introducing to like to different key members of their family and we meet genealogists and historians and it's like it's a whole journey.

Speaker 11 I love that in that episode James

Speaker 16 is with in his family's kitchen.

Speaker 11 His mom is cooking. He says, oh, that's the smell that brings me back to my childhood.
Fast forward to you guys in an outdoor kitchen in Bavaria

Speaker 5 and they're making, you're making schnitzel.

Speaker 11 Right. And he goes, it's that smell.
It's the same smell.

Speaker 23 Totally.

Speaker 11 That's when I started weeping.

Speaker 10 No, but it's schnitzel.

Speaker 7 Yeah. I'm crying over schnitzel.

Speaker 3 It's okay to cry over. It's okay to cry over.
Yes, yeah, great.

Speaker 13 Because it is an emotional thing. And I mean, like, it's, you know,

Speaker 13 I go, like, the most emotional episode of all of them is aquafine. And they're all really special for different reasons.

Speaker 13 But hers actually started out with Jiajang Myeon, which is a completely different dish.

Speaker 13 But we were making this seaweed soup that this woman who had a PhD in fermentation, which they do that in Korea because food is truly healing there and it's like UNESCO protected.

Speaker 13 And she's making this soup and Nora, Aquafina, remembered this smell that her mom, it was the one smell she remembered of her mom when she was around and she was making this soup. Wow.

Speaker 13 And we learned that in Korean history, women make this for their daughters after they're born because they're depleted of iron. It's something that's very healing.

Speaker 13 And it's passed on from mother to daughter.

Speaker 13 So for her to learn like oh my gosh that smell is literally the soup that my mother was trying to use to heal herself and also to to to to make sure that that that her daughter was okay like it's and it's and it all like it's never it's so much more than the dish it's like when you look back on it there's always a story there's knowledge of history and and it's

Speaker 11 i'm thinking there could be a spin-off called no smell like home

Speaker 11 and you smell like your grandparents boxers or something and then

Speaker 13 i mean you know there are a lot weirder things that are making it to streaming services these days so I feel like we should definitely pitch it yeah

Speaker 19 it's nachio after hours yeah yeah

Speaker 11 you also don't have to respond to that but you know look so so talking about parents you know this is a cookbook that my wife made after my father passed and it's of his favorite dishes and talking watching this made me think of this recipe for this Eastern European soup that my dad made called struchke.

Speaker 7 I mean, look at this fing ⁇ ing thing.

Speaker 10 How can anybody read that? But what I'm- Is he a physician?

Speaker 7 No, he's not a physician.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 7 by the way,

Speaker 17 when I was watching your show, I was thinking of this, and then I'm thinking of my dad's handwriting, and then I'm thinking of him in the kitchen with the apron on. Now I'm crying.

Speaker 19 It's not even about your show. It's about my dad.

Speaker 3 You really f ⁇ me up, Anthony. But that's exactly.

Speaker 13 No, but genuinely, that's what I want.

Speaker 10 I want people to watch the show.

Speaker 13 And like, while I understand that not everyone has a National Geographic Historical Team that can do three to six months of research for each episode. Yeah, I want to hear about it.

Speaker 13 But I think it's like an important, it's an opportunity to start having these conversations with people in your family or like maybe even like the awkward uncle and like learning those family stories because

Speaker 13 we have to pass those things on for our children, for our chosen family, for whoever it is. And sitting around the table is like being raised the way that I was raised.

Speaker 13 That's when we share those stories. There's a universal thread there.

Speaker 13 And I think God knows we're living in a time and place where like we need to figure out how we can like relate relate to each other as opposed to the opposite.

Speaker 4 Not that there's anything wrong with this country right now, but you know. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Look, it's great if our favorite dish has a lineage back to the origin of country. But what sometimes happens, and I wonder, you know, my dad made this soup for us every Christmas Eve.

Speaker 11 No one in the family liked the soup.

Speaker 7 This is dad's soup and you don't mess with it. Exactly.

Speaker 11 At one point we said to his mom, my grandma, like dad's been making struchki, and she goes, well, we don't eat that shit.

Speaker 10 But there's also something fun about your show.

Speaker 19 When you go backwards, you find out stuff that maybe isn't so complimentary of the family or of the lineage.

Speaker 11 How do you process that?

Speaker 13 That isn't complementary of the family or the lineage.

Speaker 16 I mean, there was the one with James where it's like, oh, my great-great-great-grandfather was in prison.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah. You know, they didn't really know why.

Speaker 8 And there was a moment there where it's like, what did he do?

Speaker 13 Well, because he was like a political activist. Every guy was a rebel.

Speaker 10 It turned good. Let's talk about the history.
I mean, this is actually research.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 13 This is. Oh, 100%.
I mean, it's not like,

Speaker 13 I love Queer Eye, but that's like a different unscripted show where I can say whatever I want, and it's a very different editing process.

Speaker 13 Here, you know, we have every single thing that I say has to be corroborated by three independent sources, which is like kind of wild.

Speaker 13 So we're dealing with places like Germany where, you know, they have the infrastructure and the places that you go to to get these documents. They give it to you like within the hour.

Speaker 13 Because the Germans have it all figured out.

Speaker 9 In Italy, they take like two to three weeks, but like they'll get it as well.

Speaker 7 Like, they take their time.

Speaker 13 Yeah, if you're in Senegal, if you're in where we went with Issa Ray, or if you're in Borneo, where we went with Henry Golding, they don't have that, it's oral history.

Speaker 13 So, the team has to go there a few months prior, speak to village elders. And if the three village elders are saying the exact same thing, they consider it a fact.

Speaker 13 If anything is like 80, I've done voiceover for narration on the show and had to go back to the studio after because our showrunner Robin was like, We're not 100% sure, we can't say it, we gotta like go back.

Speaker 11 I watched your show and I said,

Speaker 10 Wow, TV studios do have money.

Speaker 6 Let's be honest.

Speaker 11 Let's be honest.

Speaker 15 You're in a lot of foreign places.

Speaker 11 You're eating a lot of food.

Speaker 2 You're using your hands.

Speaker 5 Did you mark off a day for traveler's diarrhea for you and the crew?

Speaker 23 I mean, did.

Speaker 18 So interestingly.

Speaker 21 I knew something would happen.

Speaker 13 Interestingly, so I mean, well, the thing is, like, I'm not, like, if I eat something and it's good, I just keep on eating it. I don't have, like, I've never believed in a spit bucket.

Speaker 13 I'm just, it's not in my DNA to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 13 But I was in, it didn't happen on set, but I happened to be, we were filming in Italy, and then I had 10 days off before I had to be in South Korea.

Speaker 13 And I was like, I'm already sort of on that side of the world. So, like, why don't I go to Bali for 10 days? Like, what's the worst that could happen?

Speaker 7 Right, right.

Speaker 13 And I went to this market, and there was a beautiful piece of tuna, and I just wanted like a light sear on it. And I picked it out and they gave it to me.

Speaker 13 And it was like, also, the food in Bali was like, it was exceptional on all fronts. This is not to like put any like negative beef there

Speaker 13 or tuna there. And so they serve it to me well done, just draped in a cream sauce.
And I ate it and I felt a little weird, but I was like, I'm sure I'm fine.

Speaker 13 I ended up with double IVs at the exact same time, the night before my red eye, two soul, and I was FaceTiming my dad, who's a physician, and he was like, why do you have two IVs at the same time?

Speaker 13 I've never seen this. There's a language barrier.
I have nurses there that the hotel sent because people get this thing called Bali Belly.

Speaker 13 But the crazy thing that happened, because I'm an optimist at heart, I can eat ghost peppers now, okay, and they don't like they don't kill me.

Speaker 13 I can eat spicy things.

Speaker 10 I'm a Polish guy, we don't do heat.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 23 you even said that in the Malaysian episode, you're like, I don't really do heat, but now you can do heat.

Speaker 13 I can do heat now, which is great, and I hope it lasts for a long time. But I get food poisoning once or twice a year because of the things I put in my mouth.

Speaker 13 It's just, it's part, it's part for the course.

Speaker 13 Enough!

Speaker 3 You're all grown-ups, there are no children here.

Speaker 10 I find your personal history so connected also to this show because of your parents.

Speaker 23 Explain a little bit to your family history and how it's relevant.

Speaker 13 I mean, so I'm, you know, my parents were both Polish. My father was born in Brussels because his family fled there after the war, but like, I'm like, I think I'm like 80% Polish.

Speaker 13 And growing up, that was the first language we spoke at home. We were only allowed to speak Polish, had all the food, cabbage rolls for lunch, the whole thing.

Speaker 13 And then there was a period of sort of growing up when I was in my teens, like the angsty years, like Oasis, Richard Ashcroft, just to paint a picture,

Speaker 13 where I wanted nothing to do with my identity. I moved to the States.
I was in West Virginia. I wanted to assimilate, change my name, the whole thing.

Speaker 13 And then there came a point when I was in university back in Montreal and I started working at a Polish restaurant. I met like young Polish people who had super Polish names.

Speaker 13 And I was like, wow, you're actually proud to be who you are. And it's kind of like that whole idea of like, well, like this is in my DNA, so why am I trying to fight it? Yeah.

Speaker 13 And now it's kind of inspired me. Even as a result of the show, I had conversations with my dad.
I was like, why do we have so much cabbage in our culture? What's the deal with brogies?

Speaker 13 Where do those come from? And he's like, we realize there's so much that we don't know.

Speaker 13 And so it's kind of sparked conversations within my own family.

Speaker 11 You might have answered it, but it's so clear in this show that the guest really

Speaker 11 sees how important this dish is, how important this food is to their family. For you personally, you know, we don't get to do this show with you, with your dish, but why is food so important to you?

Speaker 13 My face just got warm.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Because I think, I don't know. I mean, I think it has to do with, to quote my therapist, if it's hysterical, it's historical.

Speaker 13 And growing up,

Speaker 13 my parents, I adore them and they did the best with the tools they were given.

Speaker 13 But it was a really dysfunctional household. And the one time where we all got along was when we were sitting at the table and gossiping and just like talking shit and having like the best time.

Speaker 13 And like, that's when everybody had a smile on their face. And so it's personal to me.
And it's,

Speaker 13 I feel like everyone kind of has their own version of that. Like at any single gathering that my parents would have, everyone always ended up in the kitchen.

Speaker 13 And I feel like that's the case with so many people. And so

Speaker 13 food is there for you when you're depressed, when you're really happy, when you're celebrating life's achievements, when you're

Speaker 13 celebrating dealing with loss. Sometimes people celebrate loss, but I don't know.

Speaker 13 But

Speaker 13 it's just, it's the, for me, it's, it's, my whole family is just as obsessed, if not more, than I am about food. Like, it's just, it's in our DNA.

Speaker 10 The show's great.

Speaker 15 It's beautiful. Thank you.

Speaker 11 You kind of do what the daily show does, which is you trick us by entertaining us, and then somehow we've learned something and there's a message been presented.

Speaker 5 So I really loved it. Thank you so much for making a new episode for Mortase By Martin A for Sundays on National Geographic, And all episodes are streaming now on Disney Plus and Ulu.

Speaker 3 Anthony Paromsky, we're going to take a quick break and write back after this.

Speaker 3 Thank you, man.

Speaker 3 That's our show for tonight.

Speaker 22 But before you go, If you're looking for a fun read, my new book, Lucky Loser, comes out this Tuesday, March 11th.

Speaker 22 It's a memoir about my life and how failing at professional tennis led me to be a comedian.

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Speaker 15 Now, here it is, your moment of Zen.

Speaker 2 Sir, this tariff war is heating up, isn't it?

Speaker 27 Yeah, it is. I mean, look, when Trump says tariff is my favorite word in the English language, I don't quite believe him.
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