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Speaker 2 Roy, I'm scared of Backward Cap Billy with the mischievous grin, and I'm scared of Backward Cap Billy with a mischievous grin

Speaker 2 on a day that there's no Chris Cody.

Speaker 12 Oh, because he's got a tight ship here.

Speaker 2 No Stugats.

Speaker 2 No Mike Ryan. No Lewis.
It's just Billy. And now Billy's turned his...

Speaker 13 No, Lewis.

Speaker 15 Lewis hasn't been to work in three weeks. Where is he?

Speaker 16 He's been missing more than Stugats.

Speaker 12 Who are you to talk? Your brother was here working last week and you weren't here.

Speaker 14 I didn't approve that, by the way.

Speaker 2 I don't really understand our.

Speaker 6 We liked him better.

Speaker 2 Our vacation policy is not something that I totally get.

Speaker 2 But it seems nice.

Speaker 12 Some people get to never work and other people never get to take vacation.

Speaker 3 And I'm always here. That's how it works.

Speaker 2 Well, wait a minute.

Speaker 12 Some people have kids also on spring break and they have to come in every day this week and they don't spend any time with their family.

Speaker 18 Mine also works. Yep.

Speaker 12 And other people just went on vacation and they're back on vacation again now this week.

Speaker 2 I don't understand our policy.

Speaker 2 I know that you guys always think that I'm the hot dog meme pointing back at himself like the Spider-Man meme, but that I'm Tim Robinson. But

Speaker 2 I find myself wondering

Speaker 2 how it is we're going to withstand it. And in the breach steps

Speaker 2 superhero Jonathan Zaz.

Speaker 20 Yeah, where's Tukots?

Speaker 2 Zaz looks like radio.

Speaker 20 You said that the other day. What does that mean?

Speaker 16 It's mean. That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 15 Is it mean?

Speaker 12 It's not a compliment.

Speaker 20 No, I thought I'm looking handsome these days. I think you look great.

Speaker 13 Thank you.

Speaker 21 The bald look is definitely working for you.

Speaker 20 All right. Thank you.

Speaker 2 In outfit and demeanor, he looks like radio. He comes in.

Speaker 2 Look, I think I'm going to start the show just asking Zaszlo an assortment of questions so that we can get to know the Zaszlo wardrobe, for example.

Speaker 20 Oh, my wife was not pleased with today's wardrobe that's a great jacket thank you my wife was not happy i i go into the closet in the morning i pick out whatever is the handiest whatever is the closest the lights are not on in the bedroom it's early in the morning and she looks at me she goes that is a terrible terrible outfit and i couldn't care less what do i care who am i trying to impress

Speaker 2 see that's the thing But I've got a lot of questions because

Speaker 2 you guys have to understand that the Zaszlo I know never wants to leave Cooper City.

Speaker 13 Oh, they got everything I need.

Speaker 2 When he doesn't want to see the world, doesn't want to see Europe.

Speaker 20 My wife's going to Europe on Wednesday this week. I'm staying in Cooper City

Speaker 2 and is thrilled because he'll just watch Panther games.

Speaker 14 Where the hell is Cooper City?

Speaker 20 It's a suburb in Broward, and it's got everything I need, man.

Speaker 23 And Publix and everything.

Speaker 20 Yeah, it's got a Publix. It's got a gas station in case I need to go somewhere.
It's got a liquor store. I'm good to go.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you that as close to Venice as Zaz will ever get if a college football game is not played there now that ESPN is making him travel is one of those canals on the outskirts of Cooper City.

Speaker 2 Like that, he'll vacation there. He doesn't want...
I'm going to ask a question here.

Speaker 2 How many coats do you like? You've traveled with college football. When that experiment began, how many coats did you own?

Speaker 20 It's a great question. I I was not fully prepared for how cold the end of the college football season was going to be.
Like when I'm going to South Bend, Indiana, I was not prepared for that.

Speaker 20 I need to do a much better job before next college football season. I was cold.

Speaker 2 You didn't answer my question. Yeah,

Speaker 20 I don't have coats. I don't.
Cooper City doesn't get that cold.

Speaker 2 You didn't own a coat before traveling for college football season?

Speaker 20 No, no, and I was just wearing, you know, like hooded sweatshirts, you know, and hope that does the trip in wisconsin it was so cold ann arbor michigan it was really cold

Speaker 24 this is the dan levatar show with the stuccats podcast

Speaker 2 Is everyone mad at March Madness? Not enough drama and buzzer beaters and upsets and stories and fun and what why are you making a face, Tony?

Speaker 14 Come on, because I don't like that we get this this once a year, okay? We have this incredible tournament where there's basketball everywhere and there's hoops everywhere.

Speaker 14 And I got my wife being like, Are you really going to watch college basketball? I'm like, Yeah, babe, it's March. That's what I do in March.
We watch college hoops.

Speaker 14 And yeah, there hasn't been a ton of upsets. There hasn't been a ton of buzzer beaters.

Speaker 13 There have been a ton of the secret sauce, though.

Speaker 2 There is always the secret sauce of the white guy. You know, going into this tournament, I told you my analysis was everyone's going to shoot 35%.

Speaker 2 And so when you go and you watch St. John's, and God bless, God bless Kalapari here, who beats self.
He's got to feel so good. He has to feel so good today, taking out Patino and Self at Arkansas.

Speaker 2 But so everyone told you before St. John's, hey, they can't shoot threes and they can't shoot free throws.
Can't do either of those.

Speaker 2 And it's like, okay, if they can't do those, that seems to be problematic in those pesky one-on-one situations that everyone's going to get bothered by when they're gambling on these games.

Speaker 20 Does Calapari feel better right now than the Kentucky fan is angry? I mean, Cal missed the second, he lost in the first round. What was it?

Speaker 20 Five consecutive years before he left there, and now coaching his ass off. He's the best story in the tournament.

Speaker 2 It is nuts that there are only four conferences remaining, and one of them's there only because Duke's still there.

Speaker 2 Like, otherwise, you'd have this dominated by all of these same teams, and a lot of people see in that St. John's and Arkansas game, which is the one a lot of people were looking forward to.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God, that's horrific. Wolf.
That is horrific to watch four for 41 from three. You've never seen a tournament game where the shooting is that bad.

Speaker 2 And you realize that no matter how much money is in it, paid for it, or gambled on it. Oh, they're not pros.

Speaker 2 They're learning how to play basketball. We're just betting on them younger.
Like, that's, oh, they're not good yet.

Speaker 14 It's almost like college kickers. Like, where do the NFL kickers come from? Because every college kicker I see sucks.

Speaker 22 Terrible. Terrible.
That's hard to do.

Speaker 2 It seems like a hard job. College kicking seems like that's not that easy just because the pros make steph makes it look like that.
So we get mad at Patino for not coaching St.

Speaker 20 John's better at threes like oh that's the damage that that does get some guy that can shoot three the secret sauce you know every coach knows going in the march I need one guy who's white who can shoot and Patino has none of them I love I love the attention that Calapari's got I know he's super polarizing a lot of people don't like him you could say that he underachieved even though he won a national championship at Kentucky think of what Calapari's done this year that Arkansas team was terrible to start the season then they went to Lexington The whole story.

Speaker 20 Patino's putting out a video. Don't boo Cal.
You should treat him with respect. And Calaparti goes into Lexington and they kick the crap out of that Kentucky team.

Speaker 20 And then we get to the tournament, not only in the Sweet 16, but he beats Bill Self and Patino on the way. This is a grand slam of a year that Calapari's had.

Speaker 2 How do I turn him down a little in the morning?

Speaker 2 What do I need to do to turn the Zaslow down a little bit?

Speaker 6 I'm I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 20 I think I'm at exactly the right level right now.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he needs the energy.

Speaker 16 He's doing good. I mean, this is morning.

Speaker 17 He's here. He's going to be doing it.

Speaker 10 Why would you want to do that, Dan?

Speaker 18 I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 Thank you for asking. The games weren't worthy of that kind of enthusiasm.

Speaker 2 The enthusiasm that he is presently showing for this weekend's games. This weekend's games were a disappointment.

Speaker 20 Here's the thing, though. I like what happened.
I don't like all the upsets. I don't like all the sin.
Now, I would like some madness. You know, we got the madness.

Speaker 13 There was no madness.

Speaker 20 Maryland was the only madness.

Speaker 13 There was no madness.

Speaker 2 Okay, that was madness.

Speaker 25 Right, that was it. There wasn't enough madness.

Speaker 20 There was not enough madness, but I don't like all the upsets. I like when the big teams win.
I want the huge matchups in the Sweet 16. I don't need a 12 versus an 8 in the Sweet 16.

Speaker 20 I want the great games next weekend, and that's what we're getting now. I was fine with this weekend.

Speaker 2 Okay, I want to talk about a couple of the college basketball stories, but because this is the local hour, and I know one of the reasons that Zaz is fired up

Speaker 2 is that he doesn't like that people are taking shots at Pat Riley, I would imagine.

Speaker 20 Fight somebody, fight me.

Speaker 2 Well, as I mentioned. So the Miami Heat break a 10-game losing streak, the longest since 2008 last night.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's what it looks like when you trade for Andrew Wiggins. Okay, that's what that was supposed to look like.

Speaker 18 That guy's a pretty good scorer, huh?

Speaker 2 Only 42 points.

Speaker 2 And against Charlotte in a game that means absolutely nothing, but that would help in the fourth quarter over the last month over the 10 losses. That's not the Wiggins that we have seen.

Speaker 2 That is not the heat we have seen.

Speaker 2 The thing that I wanted to ask you guys about, though, because I'm sure as I can feel Jessica drift off to see, and I don't even blame her on just Miami Heat talk because

Speaker 2 I don't think anybody, I don't think it was a big game.

Speaker 12 It brought him to 11 games under 500.

Speaker 2 For that reason, I don't believe that anybody wants to hear heat talk.

Speaker 2 However, tomorrow, there is a game that Jimmy Butler is saying is just another game that he's already been spotted in Miami playing Dominoes, and Zaz was scared of going into that game on an 11-game losing straight.

Speaker 20 On national TV, games on TNT tomorrow. You think anyone will be talking about that? Jimmy Butler coming in, they've lost like a game since acquiring him.
And the Heat on an 11-game losing skid.

Speaker 20 Do you think I need that in my life?

Speaker 2 So this is where we are with the Miami Heat. And I am torn, though, because about the only thing worth talking about, like none of these games matter.
Like, we're going to talk about Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 2 Denver-Houston was interesting yesterday, and nobody cares. Like, basketball people care.
Basketball people are like, oh, that's an amazing story in Houston.

Speaker 2 And, oh, Odoka just gets to turn it around like that. We never find out what actually happened.
He cleans it up and he goes and he fixes Houston, but Denver's better and Denver's a champion.

Speaker 2 and we all think Denver can win the championship while none of us think that Houston can win the championship.

Speaker 2 But the sport is run at the moment by storylines, by drama, by because that regular season game doesn't matter because it doesn't matter whether Houston or Denver is two or three.

Speaker 2 We can talk about it, but it doesn't matter. And so people latch on to the stuff like Jimmy's back in town.
You're mad at people who are coming after Pat Riley?

Speaker 20 Yeah, and I'll give you a storyline, by the way, headline tomorrow night on TNT. They could steal it from me if they want.
Warriors, 0-1 over their last game. Heat, 1-0.
You want a storyline?

Speaker 20 Those are just facts. Lead with that.
That's not a good lead.

Speaker 6 One team's hot. One team's not, Dano.

Speaker 9 Be fair.

Speaker 2 That's not a good lead.

Speaker 26 Be fair.

Speaker 20 No, I am mad because you know what's happening.

Speaker 20 You have everyone out there on their podcasts.

Speaker 20 Everybody's got a podcast. Everyone's got a podcast.
Don't you? And yes, but I'm a professional broadcaster, all right?

Speaker 20 Everyone's got a podcast. Also, because Miami Radio kicked me out.
So I got a podcast, all right? And everybody's got a podcast now. And everyone is taking pot shots at Pat Riley.

Speaker 20 It's like, all right, we've all been waiting, apparently, for the opportunity to finally be super critical and put Pat Riley out to pasture, apparently.

Speaker 20 And it's, you know how you know that everybody's been waiting? Because the Heat were in the finals two

Speaker 20 years ago. It's not like they were in the finals 22 years ago.
They were in the finals two years ago.

Speaker 20 So the very first opportunity to take a shot at Pat Riley, everybody's doing it now, and I don't like it.

Speaker 2 All right. So we've got plenty of heat homers around here.

Speaker 2 I should explain to the people who may be new to us, as Zaz has to explain to his 16-year-old son, who David Sampson is, that Zaz is not just a Miami radio legend.

Speaker 2 I would nominate him for honorary shipping container member because when 790 started, when all of us started in radio, Zaz was there the first day.

Speaker 22 Original employee.

Speaker 2 Was there the first day doing what the shipping container would do for us for Boog, for Boog Shambi. And so I believe that Zaz is worthy of being an honorary shipping container member.

Speaker 2 Tony shakes his head vigorously. No.

Speaker 14 No, it's just when.

Speaker 20 You know, I'm sitting right here, right?

Speaker 14 No, I'm going to explain it to you. I think you're going to agree with me, which is why you can't be a shipping container member, right? You sit on on that side of the gas.
Exactly.

Speaker 14 We sit on this side of the game. It's a class system.

Speaker 16 It's a class system.

Speaker 12 It's a demotion for you.

Speaker 14 You don't sit here and do your show here. You sit there and do your show there.

Speaker 16 So there's kind of a separation.

Speaker 2 Wait, no, no, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Like, Amin, if you give Amin his choice, he would rather be in there.

Speaker 13 It's all, it's.

Speaker 14 Amin is, though. Amin is a shipping container member.
That's that's the difference. Also,

Speaker 20 I'm above Amin, you're saying.

Speaker 14 No, Amin splits time, but he's honorary here.

Speaker 2 Stugats is also in the shipping container.

Speaker 5 So yes, I would say it's a.

Speaker 2 When I say honorary shipping container member, I'm bestowing upon him an honor from a group I have found historically distrustful about allowing others into the inner circle. It takes a minute.

Speaker 2 Nobody's ever arrived here and just gets to be good with the shipping container.

Speaker 20 Dear trust me?

Speaker 14 I do. I do have a story about Zaz I've never mentioned on air ever.

Speaker 14 This is actually a really good story.

Speaker 27 This is fun now.

Speaker 7 It's exciting.

Speaker 14 Okay, so I used to work at 790s as a promotion assistant, right?

Speaker 27 You did? Yeah.

Speaker 17 This does not reflect well on me already.

Speaker 5 Well, he was employed.

Speaker 12 He was employed as a promotion assistant. The working is.

Speaker 14 I mean, I did my job. We went to like a car dealership and I would have to spin the wheel and, you know, all that stuff.

Speaker 5 A hustler. These were the beginnings.
You know me.

Speaker 2 The beginnings of the colladium.

Speaker 16 Exactly right.

Speaker 2 Pass down from your father.

Speaker 14 All of a sudden, we're coming back from, I don't know, tropical Chevrolet somewhere far away, right? We get there. It's nighttime.
It's a heat game. And in the studio, I peeked through.

Speaker 14 There used to be in the 790 studio, there was a window like this big through the door. It was like a submarine door.

Speaker 14 And I looked in and they were on break and it was zaslow and tommy tide and i was like oh my god

Speaker 9 i was like oh my god i can't believe it it's zaszlo and

Speaker 14 tony did it or did it not look like look and smelled like radio you should have walked down the other hallway there's a giant glass it was like a fish tank yeah but i wanted to like look into where the studio was so like i was there and then i kind of poked my head in and at the same time Zaz is trying to throw a paper away so he's shooting like a garbage jump shot where I'm opening the door.

Speaker 25 So as I open the door, the garbage flings at me.

Speaker 14 It misses me. It hits the...
You made the shot, by the way.

Speaker 13 Made it.

Speaker 14 And I'm like, hey, Zaz. Hey, Tommy, just big fan, whatever.
Didn't say anything and then just

Speaker 14 went to the bottom.

Speaker 10 I don't know if he didn't hear me.

Speaker 23 He had the headphones on.

Speaker 10 So I don't know if he heard me or not.

Speaker 21 I didn't know if he was like...

Speaker 20 Okay, important detail. You said I had the headphones on.
All right, come on. There's no way that I would destroy it.

Speaker 2 Regardless, getting back to the original content,

Speaker 2 Tony had a nerve there.

Speaker 14 I'm just saying, I had never seen it.

Speaker 17 He threw garbage at you.

Speaker 5 Now garbage at you. That was hello.
And Darren answered me.

Speaker 2 Hey, I'm a big fan.

Speaker 5 I'm a big fan of the girl. Oh, my God.
It's John Thousand.

Speaker 17 You throw garbage at me.

Speaker 5 Oh, sorry.

Speaker 2 He doesn't speak to you. That's the headline.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Who does qualify as an honorary shipping container member?

Speaker 9 Mina.

Speaker 2 Has she ever even been in a shipping container?

Speaker 5 Yeah, she did Roy's Rome.

Speaker 2 Okay. Oh, that's right.
Forgive me.

Speaker 20 My apologies. I actually turned to Tommy Tig.
I said, show him out, please.

Speaker 2 Don't make eye contact, kid, and get out of here.

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Speaker 18 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 5 To us, residents.

Speaker 10 Wow. That's pretty good.

Speaker 5 You think I haven't been practicing?

Speaker 18 Stugats.

Speaker 22 Oh,

Speaker 2 I didn't realize we had a substitute complicated legacy choice.

Speaker 10 441 Powerline Road.

Speaker 13 Second down to nine.

Speaker 25 This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 2 Jeremy was doing his reports from the game yesterday, and I saw him reporting on behalf of Advancing Through Dancing.

Speaker 2 He was

Speaker 2 effervescent. Jeremy is bubbly as a sideline reporter.
Perpetual enthusiasm.

Speaker 27 Yeah, I bring the energy, Dano.

Speaker 6 You know, it's my job to make sure that as the heat are on a 10-game losing streak, that that's not reflected in the broadcast.

Speaker 6 We're here for people to have a great time, to enjoy each individual game. And if I can put a smile on somebody's face, I'm going to do that with my energy and my smiling face.

Speaker 2 Well, okay, so, and this is where it is that we get called heat homers. And a criticism that was levied at me here recently as it regards Pat Riley is when I was saying that

Speaker 2 I got aggregated for saying around here that Jimmy's unstable ingredient

Speaker 2 had made it so that when he left the heat organization, there was a relief in the building.

Speaker 2 And a lot of people, and I understand why they would make this criticism, suggested that I'm just doing mouthpiece work on behalf of executives when I say that.

Speaker 2 But I wasn't even talking about executives. I was talking about employees.
I'm not even talking about the players. I was just talking about like relief in the building that

Speaker 2 whatever that tension was, I was talking to simply about the funny thing about the report and it getting aggregated is that people naturally assumed, oh, Pat Riley's whimpering to Dan about how bad Jimmy was at the end.

Speaker 2 And it's like, no, I just talk, I know people who work there and they were like really uncomfortable, not just at the end, long before the end, because of whatever it is.

Speaker 2 is like i don't even know what it is to to work in the secrecy of that building where you're not allowed to say anything about anything to anybody that basketball is this supreme holy thing that can't be touched and whatever jimmy's doing in that setting jimmy's getting whatever he wants I ran into someone from the heat at the beginning of the season, the very beginning of the season, someone who I used to see all the time when I was on the broadcast.

Speaker 20 How you doing? Good to see you. How's everything going?

Speaker 13 You answered him, huh?

Speaker 20 And the answer was, everything's all right. You know, just dealing with Jimmy.
And this was the very beginning of the season before anything became public with him being angry.

Speaker 20 His answer was, yeah, I mean, it's good, just, you know, dealing with Jimmy.

Speaker 2 Okay, so one of the things though, because I don't want to do revisionist history here, not only did that win, putting the coal in that furnace of conflict, like this is, this one to me is super, like, super rich for study.

Speaker 2 Whatever you believe to be that organization over the last 20 years, it thrived in a way that would be really uncomfortable, I think, for most human beings in conflict.

Speaker 2 Okay, I would not call it a toxic workplace, but there is a boss over the conflict, and the conflict is fuel.

Speaker 2 The conflict's not bad. The conflict makes everyone who's fighting over money in minutes better.
The conflict makes everyone stronger, but you wouldn't want to work around it.

Speaker 2 And the best of it was Jimmy. And Jimmy wanted to fight UD and Spo wanted to fight Jimmy.
And whatever the manifestations of that are every day,

Speaker 2 I don't think I'd like to work around it.

Speaker 7 I think I would crumble around it.

Speaker 2 Now, I'm weaker than the people in these workplaces. One of the reasons I love studying the arena is because, my God, they're all bigger, stronger, faster.

Speaker 2 They're all speeding up. learning, fighting for money on what the height of competition is where you've got to earn your shit.

Speaker 2 You got to earn, you got to, you've got to hunt and kill what you eat for your family. And it's the top 1% of the top 1%.

Speaker 2 And conflict is the place you're going to get there. And we're going to contain it for culture for five years.
We're going to ride that particular locomotive and then it explodes.

Speaker 2 And what you're left with is a relief, but also losing. But also you're terrible.

Speaker 5 So now what?

Speaker 2 Like what

Speaker 2 do you do as a sports fan to put the two things together where you can say, no, man, whatever Jimmy was doing, maybe it wasn't professional, maybe you didn't like it, maybe you didn't like it only when you couldn't totally harness it, but whatever he was doing was the winning.

Speaker 2 Like, at the center of it, it was him, and he took it with him.

Speaker 20 Yeah, but

Speaker 20 I feel like the way that you're phrasing it is that the Heat were done with it, and that's why Jimmy's gone. No, the Heat were totally good with it still happening.

Speaker 20 Jimmy's the one who made them get rid of him. Like, he was under contract for this season and essentially next season as well.
The Heat, by all accounts, wanted him to play out that entire contract.

Speaker 2 My point is, in the age of player empowerment, what happens when you can't harness the conflict? It's all fine when you can harness the conflict. Oh, whatever.
UD and Jimmy might fight with Spo.

Speaker 2 Ah, it's good video. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 17 That was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 Like, what happens when you can't harness it? I've told you guys the story before. Shaq wanted to fight Riley.

Speaker 2 They escorted him out with security like they always do with employees, but Shaq wanted to fight Riley and wasn't allowed back in the building.

Speaker 2 Riley will say of a conflict with Alonzo Morning where it seemed like Alonzo Morning was going to punch his coach because

Speaker 2 they were face to face. You can say, bleep you to me.
Just teach me something when that's an environment.

Speaker 12 I'm legitimately asking you guys, what happens when you can't harness the conflict you trade him and the team falls apart because the culture is really just nonsense to sell season tickets It's all about the talent and when you get rid of the most talented players on your team you have off seasons that are not good and seasons that are bad you're gonna take that Zaslow I mean like it's an argument that We can go round and round about.

Speaker 20 I feel like you're saying it just to aggravate me that the culture is just something to sell tickets welcome to my world my friends

Speaker 20 like you're just trying to get under my skin here.

Speaker 20 You're not talking about a franchise.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 20 You're not talking about a franchise that's been terrible for several years. Yes, this has been a bad year.

Speaker 20 And I kind of feel like I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt to fix it in the offseason. Now, I think this is a huge offseason.

Speaker 20 I think it's an offseason like maybe they've never had before because of the conversation around the team. But it's one bad season that they've had now.

Speaker 12 Well, Well, but they got rid of their star. That's what I'm saying, is the culture exists when you have a lot of people.

Speaker 23 And they'll get another one. Yeah, and then the culture will be back.

Speaker 20 Yeah, they'll get another one. Because it's just talent.
Well,

Speaker 20 it's hard to do this when you don't have any good players. They'll get another star.

Speaker 20 How many different iterations of winning teams have they had with Pat Raleigh there? They've done it over and over again. They're going to do it again.
They'll get someone else this offseason.

Speaker 12 The reality is, too, like

Speaker 6 the emotional baggage of all of this and Andrew Wiggins missing half the game since he showed up, they haven't been able to get into a groove and it's been one bad season, but to act like

Speaker 6 Jimmy was maximized by this group and sort of the revisionist history because they didn't make certain transactions.

Speaker 6 I think that's the weird part of this is Jimmy played the best basketball of his career and the most winning basketball of his career with Spo as his coach, with Bam as his co-star, and with all of the surrounding pieces that they had, this isn't,

Speaker 6 this is just what happened. And so to look back at it now and act like

Speaker 6 he brought something to the organization and then took it with him when he left that was never there before.

Speaker 20 At worst, it was 50-50. Right.

Speaker 6 It was a great partnership.

Speaker 6 That's why there's so many people around the organization and within the fan base who are so frustrated by the things he said after the last Warriors game, sort of dismissing it as just like a cute little time that he had with some friends when he still hasn't said anything about the guys that were his co-stars.

Speaker 6 I think most people are frustrated by the fact that you know he still hasn't said anything about a guy like Bam, who took every single bullet that you could imagine while Jimmy was there as sort of his shield, the way Draymond is for Steph.

Speaker 6 I do wonder what that was.

Speaker 23 All the little things.

Speaker 20 I do wonder what that was like behind the scenes because one of my, well, I mean, something that I feel like is fair to be critical of Bam about when Jimmy was still here this year, and Bam's the captain.

Speaker 20 It's like, why are you allowing this behavior?

Speaker 20 If you're a heat culture guy and you're an extension of the coach and you're an extension of Pat Riley and you're the captain of the team, like, I don't feel like Eudonis Haslam is allowing Jimmy Butler to go out into the game and shoot one-legged fadeaway three-pointers.

Speaker 17 But I don't know what's happening behind him.

Speaker 2 But again, I ask you, what happens when you can't harness the conflict? Bam lived in service of Jimmy. Yep.

Speaker 20 That's what what it looks like.

Speaker 15 Well, no, but I mean,

Speaker 2 and was rewarded for it. I mean, Bam does what PR asks him to do.
Bam is great team spokesman. Bam is nice.

Speaker 2 Bam is also not as aggressive as you'd like him to be.

Speaker 20 But if you're the captain of the team, how are you allowing a guy to be on the floor with you and actively not try to

Speaker 23 bothers me? Fight him?

Speaker 14 When he's better than you, there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 18 Yeah, what are you going to do?

Speaker 12 Like, that's why, like, from an outsider's perspective, that's why they roll their eyes at the whole culture stuff because the culture exists as long as the superstar wants to indulge it and participate in the control in the culture.

Speaker 12 He did not want to be participating in the culture and like to what you guys are saying, everyone behind the scenes like, well, we just have to kind of put up with whatever Jimmy's doing.

Speaker 12 So he never did with him. Yeah, so like then there's not actually a culture.

Speaker 6 No, I mean they built a culture around what they did. They maximized the player.
They maximized all of the other guys around him. That work ethic never left those guys.

Speaker 6 And Jimmy was there working that way until they brought in his friend and Kyle Lowry. And then those guys separated themselves from the locker room.

Speaker 17 You guys have to do that.

Speaker 12 People don't work hard on other teams to make rosters. Like, that's the part I don't understand.

Speaker 7 No, this is.

Speaker 6 I mean, you can look around the entire NBA. There's nobody who has taken as many second-round picks in the last decade and turned them into serviceable NBA players.

Speaker 6 They've gotten contracts elsewhere and with the team.

Speaker 6 Like, it's silly to put it down as nothing, but also hyping it up as if it's the only thing that matters and that talent doesn't matter would be short-sighted.

Speaker 6 Like, I am not saying that they don't need better players on the roster to be able to compete for championships, but it's been about the little things that allow you to be a five-seed in the bubble that makes the run to the finals, that allows you to be an eight-seed that makes the run to the finals.

Speaker 6 That's where you can hang your hat on it and you can laugh at it. And by the way, if you're nationally listening to this, you probably should because this will be the one opportunity to do so.

Speaker 17 We know that.

Speaker 13 Because they'll come back. Roy, you're totally right.

Speaker 2 And I know you were talking to just me. I know, but you're totally right.
There's no need to hang a hat on that.

Speaker 23 Yeah, why are we hanging a hat on?

Speaker 12 Why can't LeBron just have his cookies?

Speaker 24 Fly on the plane. You just chalk the corner.

Speaker 5 Oh, you know that story is bullshit.

Speaker 7 Come on.

Speaker 22 What? Oh, okay.

Speaker 10 LeBron?

Speaker 20 Get out of here.

Speaker 12 Why would he make that up?

Speaker 20 Why would Pat Riley, who doesn't travel with the team, send a text message

Speaker 20 to the servers on the plane and say, no more cookies?

Speaker 18 Culture. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 Billy actually moved away from the microphone as if something had exploded nearby just because he looked I would like to play these particular notes for the next two days, Billy, because I know you can get Zaslow easily agitated and you haven't had one.

Speaker 16 That's not what I'm doing.

Speaker 12 We're just having a conversation about the heat, the culture, the cookies, et cetera.

Speaker 20 It's Monday morning. I feel good about the tournament.
I feel good about the Panthers yesterday. The heat snapped at streak, so they don't have to go into tomorrow without anything.

Speaker 17 But the last two.

Speaker 20 That's right. I said that.

Speaker 20 I own that statement. And you're getting me riled up over nonsense here.
Cookies? You know that story is not true.

Speaker 18 It's stupid.

Speaker 12 Dan reported it was ice cream that they took away from lebron took away it was ice cream he was like having a spoonful he was about to put in his mouth and a flight attendant slapped it out of his hand and they threw the they opened the emergency exit and threw the ice cream carton out the out the airplane no that's not what how that i remember okay i understand but that's always because you're here to help

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Speaker 18 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 12 We didn't get to your guys's against the spread. You're right.

Speaker 7 You're right. You're right.

Speaker 2 I don't have it against the spread

Speaker 2 because I wasn't prepared for this segment any in in your life. You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting.

Speaker 18 Stugats.

Speaker 12 Defense wins championships, baby.

Speaker 25 That's show business. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 2 My wife this weekend

Speaker 2 describes Santa as sexy because he just runs around giving you gifts and all he needs is cookies. You just made me think of that because you brought up cookies.
And she's also got a type, obviously.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm better shaped here for Santa than anybody in our offices, correct?

Speaker 5 Yes, you're the biggest person here.

Speaker 2 No, for Santa. Not at all,

Speaker 2 biggest. I'm just saying that Danny would be a good Santa.

Speaker 18 Yeah, short Santa.

Speaker 2 That's a short. No, but I don't feel like...

Speaker 9 Santa's got to be big. Santa.

Speaker 2 I feel like, yeah, doesn't he?

Speaker 14 He's got to carry the big size. How tall does Santa?

Speaker 2 How tall does Santa have to be? He can't be Danny's size. Why? Because Danny's like 5'5.

Speaker 25 He's got to be 6'plus.

Speaker 14 Santa's got to be over 6'3.

Speaker 5 75 inches.

Speaker 20 I don't envision Santa as this giant. You're making it.

Speaker 2 He doesn't have to be a giant. He just can't be 5'5.
Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Can Santa be 5'5?

Speaker 18 He has to be small to get into chimneys.

Speaker 14 No, but he can contort his body in a different way. That's a whole different story.

Speaker 16 I'm saying Danny is 5'5.

Speaker 2 Well, how tall is Danny? I don't know how tall.

Speaker 2 He just said that's correct in my ear.

Speaker 23 Thank you, Danny. Oh, man.
Okay, you're right.

Speaker 17 It's okay.

Speaker 2 You work with this person. And so I, and so.

Speaker 25 Dan, you got a good gauge for height.

Speaker 2 Well, but I think everyone listening to this would agree with the premise and would say to me, Dan, you are correct. My child cannot believe in a 5'5 Santa, even if my child is...

Speaker 2 small and wants to have representation in the world. Santa can't be 5'5.

Speaker 14 Also, he can't be 5'5 because then it feels like the elves would kind of rebel.

Speaker 14 If they saw Santa as a little bit taller than them, they'd be like, hey, wait a second, you're not telling us what to do. Wait, how to make it toys?

Speaker 29 How tall are they?

Speaker 22 Small.

Speaker 20 Tell you what, a Jewish Santa would be 5'5.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 Put it on the poll at Levittard Show, would a Jewish Santa be 5'5? Santa.

Speaker 2 So Michigan was 8-24 with Jawan Howard. That was kind of a really nice story, and then it wasn't.

Speaker 2 And next thing you know, I'm watching seven-footers set screens for each other, and Michigan is in the Sweet 16 because

Speaker 2 they did the thing.

Speaker 2 They got hot at the right time.

Speaker 5 Dusty May, good coach.

Speaker 2 They ran.

Speaker 2 Yes, there's that.

Speaker 12 Tim Allen's 5'10. He played Santa.

Speaker 22 Okay, that's a good height for him.

Speaker 2 That's a good height for Santa.

Speaker 12 I'm going to look for the shortest Santa's.

Speaker 2 When I do word association on Tim Allen, I do cocaine trafficking, ended up in prison just because it was so shocking to me to learn that the guy who was on home improvement did a ride in prison over over cocaine sales i think of woody from toy story but two americans two americans two americans i just was jeremy just surprised by that jeremy i learned that on a podcast like a month ago and simply could not believe it because also like billy woody or santa claus i was gonna say woody is not oh buzz lightyear right yeah yeah yeah right right woody's tom hanks of course uh that you know what my mistake i think of the mug shot dan where it's like him holding like the little letters that they put into like that thing and he's holding it there like that you would never like a hawaiian shirt on or something right you would never catch Woody doing lines.

Speaker 20 That's why he can't be Woody.

Speaker 2 I would love a Google Doc or something

Speaker 2 or just a phone line where people can call in with

Speaker 2 facts that shock them like that, because you all have them. You all have these little things that you learned about people.
And I'd like to go around the room right now.

Speaker 2 In fact, if you guys needed to surprise somebody by saying to them, you know, you're having a conversation about whatever and you've got a fact in your arsenal that would be that you learned and it was shocking for you to learn and then you felt the need to share it with somebody.

Speaker 2 I should give you more time than this and more preparation.

Speaker 5 That would be great.

Speaker 16 Here's one.

Speaker 2 But Tim Allen made me think of it because I always say it when Tim Allen makes an appearance.

Speaker 2 It's the first thought.

Speaker 2 It's the first thought that I have.

Speaker 12 Ed Asner was 5'7. He played Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 Ed Asner is pushing. He's pushing it.
He was pushing it. The late Ed Asner.

Speaker 2 And Lou Grant struck me as taller than that. Like, he played bigger.

Speaker 7 He repped bigger.

Speaker 5 Lou Grant.

Speaker 14 It's like Draymond Green.

Speaker 17 He plays over his side.

Speaker 26 Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 Ed Asner played bigger than, put it on the poll at Levantard show.

Speaker 2 Did Ed Asner play bigger than 5'7?

Speaker 17 Defending Giannis?

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 22 I mean, he did.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's a third time. That's a fine.

Speaker 23 That's a fine.

Speaker 9 That is so amateur.

Speaker 5 That's why you can't be an honorary shipping container member.

Speaker 16 We know back here.

Speaker 9 Amateur mistake, Zaslow.

Speaker 14 Dan, have a top five for honorary should be container members.

Speaker 5 Oh, you have a top five?

Speaker 2 Oh, this is very exciting.

Speaker 24 Yes, I would love a top five.

Speaker 27 Are you a member?

Speaker 8 Buddy.

Speaker 12 Tracy Morgan's 5'9. He played Santa.

Speaker 13 Any OLI?

Speaker 14 No OLI. We'll get straight to it.
Number five, Taylor.

Speaker 20 Seems to always be hanging out underneath the desk here.

Speaker 14 And if you live here, you're an honorary member.

Speaker 2 Billy, did you vote on that? No.

Speaker 14 It's not his list. It's my list, Dan.

Speaker 2 Okay, sorry.

Speaker 14 Number four, we got to pay homage to the ones ones that came before us. Old Money Charlie.

Speaker 14 Old Money Charlie at four.

Speaker 14 Number three, Izzy.

Speaker 14 Izzy spends a lot of time here in the shipping container.

Speaker 1 We're very happy with Izzy.

Speaker 14 He does occasionally go to the other side of the glass when he needs to, but his home is here in the shipping container with us.

Speaker 13 Number two, Amin.

Speaker 14 Also, a guy that can play both sides, right? He's here with us, and then he goes in with Dan when he needs to and be Mr.

Speaker 14 Serious Guy, but then he can come back here and play with us when it's convenient for him.

Speaker 2 He's playing both shines.

Speaker 23 Playing both shines.

Speaker 5 He's playing both shines. And number one, Bobby.

Speaker 2 Good list.

Speaker 2 Okay, it's not a bad list, but the reason that I wanted to do it, because some of those people are actually in and out of the shipping container, I was thinking of the entire story of going back to first day 790.

Speaker 2 Not even Sedano goes back that far. I'm trying to go back and grab the people who would know the story of this show from the inside of it as if they were as if they were a shipping container member.

Speaker 2 I do. Because that's why I'm nominating Zaszlo.
I'm nominating Zaszlo because he understands the specifics of how we do our show

Speaker 2 without needing to be taught any of it.

Speaker 9 So Andy King.

Speaker 2 Nobody knows who that is. Not even in the shipping container.
Andy King, you're right about, but two people.

Speaker 2 You just mentioned a name that you'd be outvoted in your room by people who simply don't know who you're talking about.

Speaker 3 Well, he was originally the executive producer before Haw came in.

Speaker 2 But I'm also talking about, and forgive me for making all of the rules and definitions on this, but somebody that you guys would also respect enough as having understood what it is to do your job so you would welcome that person in.

Speaker 2 Look, this is what happens.

Speaker 2 One of the things that happens in the friendships around our show or community is people meet immediately and because they have the show as language, they can take a shortcut to, oh, we like some of the same things.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about zazwell has a life experience that makes i mean we learned radio together we he learned and we learned how to do all this in the same place at the same time stugats interviewed me for the job before 790 a ticket went on air he was the one i interviewed with and hired me andy king hired me stugatz hired me tim conway was 5'6

Speaker 2 not santa yeah he was he played santa he played santa he's too thin to play Santa.

Speaker 23 Okay. I mean, I'm looking at a list of okay.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. I'm sorry we attacked you.

Speaker 20 You're trying to, though, put me in the shipping container, but I feel like they're saying that I'm too big for the shipping container.

Speaker 23 That's what I say. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 18 Directly.

Speaker 2 And what I'm saying is that they don't like you enough to put you in the shipping container.

Speaker 20 There is no way I ignored you when you said hello to me.

Speaker 14 You didn't say anything back to me when Santa Pattern allows me to think that it's a pattern.

Speaker 20 I mean, what's the other example of that?

Speaker 12 You ignored me when I said you weren't in the shipping container. You were above it.
That was just today. Tim Conway, by the way, doesn't really count.
It was an animated film, Saving Santa, 2013.

Speaker 12 Voice actor.

Speaker 2 Well, you could do it if as a voice actor, I guess you could do it, right?

Speaker 2 It's okay to be 5'6 ⁇ .

Speaker 12 He's got a bigger voice than 5'6, Tim Conway, we can agree, right?

Speaker 26 No, I don't think we can agree with that.

Speaker 2 Oh. But I don't think we also want to do a show about Tim Conway.
But if you want to talk about old things, there was one in sports this weekend that I don't want

Speaker 2 to go too much time more without addressing because in my career watching sports figures, rare is the genuine change I saw about what one man was versus what he became than the one that happened publicly with George Foreman, where he went from the most feared man in the universe, Mike Tyson before Mike Tyson, to a jolly spokesman for things that you wanted to buy some, buy stuff from because he was great at the ministry and great at really reaching the every man

Speaker 2 by trying to leave a minister's life, a minister's narcissistic, heavyweight life where you have several kids and name all of them George, including your daughter Georgina.

Speaker 2 Because he also had like a number of things from his past life that seeped into what some people thought was dehydration, but he said was finding God. And he changed his life from ever more

Speaker 2 to become a person who

Speaker 2 America remembers more for the second half of his career and what he invented than for what he did with his athletic gifts were enough that were enough to beat, to frighten Muhammad Ali and to make Muhammad Ali the boxer that he was because and only because he was able to beat George Foreman.

Speaker 20 Yeah, I mean, it's one of the most famous boxing moments ever, a Ropa Dope, but I feel like I feel like Barkley's a similar trajectory there, where like both of them were super nasty.

Speaker 20 Like barkley was a nasty man when he played and and a lot of people like my son my 16 year old son definitely only knows barkley as the really cool guy the funny guy who says whatever he wants on tnt like barkley's pretty similar to george foreman in that regard one of the things you were saying earlier about like the random facts that you know about somebody or something that you bring up the george foreman grill thing is crazy have you heard that story before do you know the story thank you that is excellent producing by you tony do we have the sound of Hulk Hogan saying they used to share an agent?

Speaker 20 Is it true that you passed on the George Foreman grill idea?

Speaker 30 No, that's not true. I missed the phone call.

Speaker 2 What happened? Tell me the story.

Speaker 30 Well, I mean, you know, George Foreman and I had the same agent, and my kids were complaining that I was always

Speaker 30 towards the end of the line picking them up at school.

Speaker 30 They would get out of school at three o'clock and these soccer moms would start lining up their minivans and talking shop, you know, and so I would come at quarter to three, 15 minutes before my kids get out of school and I was at the back of the bus so I went to McDonald's early got Diet Cokes and got the burgers and the fries and it was a big surprise I got to the school about quarter after two I was the first one in line my kids came out they were all excited I had the drinks and the hamburgers and stuff and we went home and I checked my answer machine and my answer machine my agent called me goes hey Hogan I'm calling you I got two things I got a grill and I got a blender I got got these two choices for you and George.

Speaker 30 So when I called him back, my agent says, well, I called you first

Speaker 30 and I figured you'd take the grill, but you weren't home. So I called George and he took the grill.
So

Speaker 30 $450 million later, we've got the George Foreman grill in every size and color you can imagine. And I got the blender that you'd put eight ounces of water, a scoop of protein, and a AA battery in it.

Speaker 30 It'd spin three times and fart and cut off.

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