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So there was a story that I was actually pretty fired up about yesterday. It was like the topic du jour and we didn't actually get around to it.
I was stunned. I can't believe it.
It's the Dan Lebitard show with Sue Godson and Dan didn't want to talk about the Jackie Robinson story. It was on a T form.
I don't, this one's easy folks. If you asked AI over the last 15 years to take everything Dan has passionately spoken about on these airwaves and create a story that was born for him to speak about did he just not get to it or i have no idea what's the hallmark of a good show hallmark of a good show i have good things that i needed to get to and he didn't get to uh a jackie robinson race and sports story that you know well blaney was.
Well, Blaney was great. Was good.
I really enjoyed that interview. While this is an easy topic for Dan in the rare winning position where the intersection of sports and politics meet, Ryan Blaney was great.
He was terrific. Yeah, I don't even care about NASCAR.
I thought he was interesting. He was.
But, Jeremy, for the uninitiated, bring him up to speed on this jackie robinson story and there are also friends of the show that got entangled in this and i'd like to chew on that a little bit as well there are are so many moving pieces to this over the last 48 hours but essentially there was a a story on um a government website um where jackie robinson was celebrated for his military service, similar to a whole bunch of other military heroes that were celebrated here. And that story was removed from the government website.
and when you went to go click on the link to get to that story celebrating Jackie Robinson,

the link had been changed to include the words DEI or rather the term DEI ahead of sports in the link. So initially there was a backslash and then sports dash all these different things for Jackie Robinson.
The link was actively changed and led you to a page not found. Jeff Passan was the one who first put this out there.
He was very mad. He was rightfully furious about this.
Jackie Robinson's history being removed from a government website as a result of stomping out diversity, equity, and inclusion seems like one of the worst things that we could do in the storytelling of our nation's history. And what was really wild is that the statements that Passan received, and I can pull those up in just a second, basically doubled down on what it was that had happened, not acknowledging maybe there was a mistake, maybe there was this.
Several hours later, of course, the article was restored because that's what happens. These people try to do everything.
And if you don't catch them, they'll just keep doing it. So it's up to journalists like Jeff Passan to catch people in the act and force their hand.
And so now the article is back. But only after the statement said things like, we don't see color, essentially, when it comes to Jackie Robinson, the man who broke the color barrier.
But why was it considered DEI, Jackie Robinson? Because he's black. But it's not a hire, he was drafted.
Well, no, so this part is interesting too, right? Because they mean black. Well, right.
Because DEI hire all of a sudden has been like co-opted into being something that's negative. Yeah, it's a buzzword.
The way that woke was. Yeah, the way that critical race theory was before that.
They kind of changed up the acronym on that now. In the press release that the Department of Defense said, they said, discriminatory equity ideology.
Oh. It's remarkable.
That's incredible. It's remarkable because, I mean.
Okay, so they're saying on it that the reason that it was there originally was because he's black, not that he was hired. The term that Roy is saying there that they're using, it's that's why it was on the page, right? Because this discriminated against whom? Jackie Robinson or? White people.
That's where it kind of feels like. They're trying to say it's that's why it was on the page right because this discriminated against whom jackie robinson or white people that's that's where it kind of they're trying to say it's only included there but we're only making note of this accomplishment because he's black that's what they're saying well i mean yeah jackie robinson yes right he broke the color barrier yeah that was like that was a great player but also like he was the first to break the color barrier because he was a great player.
But that was a big deal. Huge deal.
I'm going to read the statements here for you guys. And I apologize for the fact that these are somewhat wordy.
Will it be less confusing than the PLG statement? Probably. So Jeff Passan reached out about the removal of the story from the Department of Defense website.
And this was the statement he received back. As Secretary Hegseth has said, DEI is dead at the Defense Department.
Discriminatory equity ideology is a form of woke cultural Marxism that has no place in our military. It divides the force, erodes unit cohesion, and interferes with the the services core warfighting mission.

We are pleased by the rapid compliance across the department with the directive removing DEI content from all platforms. In the rare cases that content is removed either deliberately or by mistake, that is out of the clearly outlined scope of the directive.
We instruct the components and they correct. Sorry, and they correct the content accordingly.

But there was a follow-up statement just a couple of hours later,

because that one was obviously dumb.

Everyone at the Defense Department loves Jackie Robinson,

as well as the Navajo Code Talkers.

Some of my best friends are Jackie Robinson.

I went to a Jackie Robinson wedding once. Theines in uojima and so many others we salute them for their strong and in many cases heroic service to our country full stop we do not view or highlight them through the prism of immutable characteristics such as race ethnicity or sex we do so only by recognizing their patriotism and dedication to the war fighting mission like every other American who has worn the uniform.
DEI, Discriminatory Equity Ideology, does the opposite. It divides the force, erodes unit cohesion, and interferes with the service's core war fighting mission.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'd be curious if there was like a Ted Williams story that remained up.
Yeah yeah that's what I'm wondering like I guess I understand what they're trying to say there but I think it's I think it's interesting hearing about famous people who served in wars it's like a huge part of their marketing campaign is we used to have to draft people I know that there were wars going around but historically not easy to recruit there arguing that race, that Jackie Robinson's story shouldn't be viewed through the prism of race is so insulting to not only Jackie Robinson in his memory, but all of the people who came before him and after him, not only in the military, but in baseball. Like in sports, this is truly, truly, utterly offensive.
It's almost like they forget why he got court-martialed in the first place. He was on an army bus.
As a commissioned officer, by the way, a second lieutenant, he was told to go to the back of the bus. And he got court-martialed for not doing that.
Okay, I know Zaz says I get what they're trying to say there. And I guess I kind of too, like the spin on it, right? But to ignore race is to ignore a pretty big connection point.
Your job is to recruit, like ultimately all these branches of the military are actively trying to recruit people to join. And race is a connection point for a lot of jackie robinson's story might resonate with people that you're actively trying to recruit they may be black they may be latino they may be white but it is a story that resonates in part because he was a dude that broke the color barrier to ignore that fact works against your best interest if you're actively trying to recruit people you know who it doesn't resonate with ro with? Robert Griffin III.
Because he went on Twitter last night. What'd he say? He said that you need to separate politics from sports.
And you shouldn't talk politics on sports shows. Well, that's what we're doing right now.
That's awfully convenient. Oh, that's because you had people on television yesterday who were talking about it, right? Yeah, Stephen A.
Smith. So Stephen A.
Smith did like a six-minute thing on this on first take. You can have your opinions on that.
But that didn't really get aggregated all that much. But Dove Kleinman is calling for Mina Kimes to get fired because she did like the easiest take on this with her around-the-horn victory time, her face time there.
It was weird. They went at Mina.
And I understand why they go at Mina. They have algorithms for this stuff.
They know who does numbers, but they ignore the dude that apparently can talk about, well, not apparently, negotiated in his contract. He can talk about politics with full autonomy over there.
Is it possible that's why they didn't, you know? No, no, no, it's not because they go at Mina because Mina does numbers. It's like if you check Breitbart, they still post about Megan Rapinoe occasionally because they know what gets traction over there.
Mina Kimes does numbers, invoking her name and calling this amorphous account because it's not a real person anymore, but they can't actually say it's not a real person anymore because that goes against Twitter's rules because a guy can't just sell his account. So you have this bot, essentially, that has a whole bunch of different people working on it.
An aggregator, essentially. Yeah, calling.
Well, doing the cute calling. Should Mina Kimes be fired? Question mark.
As some people are saying this. And it's overly ridiculous.
And it's totally unfair. And I hope that people dunk on Dove the way that Mina did.
But to the Robert Griffin, the third point is, this is a sports story. Jackie Robinson's like one of the first names that comes to mind when you want to talk about sports.
This is, what is, like, Jackie Robinson did sports. He did nothing yesterday.
Like, he was just, his legacy was just existing. Anything that involves Jackie Robinson is sports.
It's sports. Anything.
Literally the most important athlete in the history of sports. It's really amazing.
And the fact that he broke the color barrier and you want to insinuate that in turn, color has nothing to do with his story. Like, look, Jackie Robinson was one of the greatest second basemen of all time.
That's not why number 42 is retired. Number 42 is retired because of what he had to go through, the racial epithets being hurled at him throughout his entire rise into being a big leaguer.
And then, by the way, he is one of the greatest players of all time. So those who want to derisively call him a DEI hire, as if, by the way, that's a bad thing thing and as if he was only included because he was black you just flatly don't know ball you people want to side with these dorks that don't know ball these nerds that don't know ball that don't know anything about the history of our game our american pastime you want to be racist and not know ball i just can't believe it I really can't this is one of the most wild stories and like continuing to try to shape this narrative that DEI is a bad thing diversity equity and inclusion that's not what that means anymore they changed it but like yeah we all understand right all of these American individualists what this means right diversity what's the opposite of that wait wait uh jeremy i i feel as passionately about this as you do but i do want to try to keep it to sports a little bit in that sports was just doing sports sports was in this instance just minding its own business it's just minding its own business.
And sports realize, hey, there's sports that's being removed. Why is sports being removed? Politics comes over and grabs sports.
And it's not the other way around. And trust me, it's hugely frustrating.
Because the same people that tout that line, and I don't know if Robert Griffin III has expressed this before. but I'm watching the Daytona 500 and I'm seeing Donald Trump fly in and take several laps, several laps around the Daytona motor speedway.
And I can't exactly keep politics out of sports there. Can I? I mean, remember he did nfl players sons of bitches for kneeling yeah there

there's a lot of times where politics gravitate to sports to lift it up look donald trump essentially helped one of the big issues that donald trump uh campaigned on and was successful on and found general consensus even across the aisle was that that trans swimmer that that's bad We can't have guys playing in girls sports.

This is the line.

And while that is crude there is general consensus on this topic even amongst liberals it is a winning position so they come to sports all the time to grab their winning positions all the time sports has actively been trying to stay out of politics. even this show has kind of like we know we know that you don't like it so sports is sports when politics comes over and grabs sports sports has a right to clap back especially on something like this which is so easy i mean it if it was an actor or a musician, you know, black actor, black musician who they removed from those pages, Mina Kimes wasn't going to be using her FaceTime on Around the Horn for it.
It's because it's Jackie Robinson. That's right.
Jackie Robinson is sports. Like I said, in any place where Jackie Robinson is mentioned, that's sports.
we've gone generally in this country. It's pretty amazing that just saying that out loud could turn you into some sort of

symbol of, quote unquote, cultural woke Marxism.

And also, there are people that are still defending its removal because they've just

decided to commit to the party line when the party itself has come out and said, my bad,

my bad, we got that one wrong. It might have even been a mistake.
It's kind of surprising that they did that, though, no? No, it's not. This is what they do, man.
There have been lives. I was at a town hall last week, and there was a marine biologist for Noah that got fired, and her supervisor didn't know about it.
She got a crude letter, and it wasn't even signed. not know who fired her, went to the superior.
This is a worker that had hit all her marks, even got, even attained a bonus because she was so superlative at her job. Her supervisor didn't know about this.
I believe there was another scientist that worked on hurricanes that had actually gotten fired in a similar fashion, then rehired, and then a day later fired again. All of this is messy.
It's like they're literally typing in. They're taking inventory of what could be lumped into DEI, and that is about as crude as it can get.
Jackie Robinson, black guy, DEI. And they're just typing that in and eliminating things.
And they're eliminating – they're doing this with people's lives and jobs, and they're just typing in these things into a big machine and just crudely cutting things out. And people like Jeff Passon and all these other journalists need to keep catching these things, especially things like that.
That's a good day for journalism yesterday. It was.
It was a good day for sports. It was a good day.
It was a good day for sports, and this was something I think everybody can kind of get behind Jackie Robinson, to quote the great Jonathan Zaslow. Awesome.
Awesome. This one's easy.
They admitted hours later they got it wrong. Why is this a hill to die on still? Because when you're involved in something that feels cultish, there's no admitting that you're wrong, even when there's admission that you're wrong.
I mean, the the the general defense was like oh well you know they're they're probably running all of this through an algorithm and the algorithm made a mistake well then what's your algorithm trying to do if it's removing jackie robinson from the secretary of defense's website from the department of defense it's just really shocking to me that um people digging in their heels on this one. And it just feels like a pretty winning position on the other side to go, hey, Jackie Robinson rocks, man.
You don't have to dig your heels on this one. Everyone admits like this was this was a mistake.
We can all move on. You don't need to have a think piece as to why we're right.
And you certainly don't have to say sports stay in your lane here when they were, they, they absolutely were. And if it wasn't for sports, they would have gotten away with this heinous thing.
So thank you sports. This is the thing, right? With sports.
I mean, we, we, you just brought up, um, you know, trans athletes, right? And this is why I thought Pablo's episode that he did on, on trans athletes a few months ago was one of the most important things we've done at Metal Ark Media. Because oftentimes what this administration is doing is using sports as a vehicle to point something out, right? Take it as a minor thing.
Oh, we don't want, quote unquote, men playing in women's sports. And you make the trans community this divisive community that you attack, that you bring to everyone's mind.
Hey, there's this bad thing and we need to stomp it out. And now you can see those same people who initially said this is just about sports, literally calling to remove trans people from society, period.
End of discussion. Get rid of them.
If you're going to start here with this conversation on Jackie Robinson and the history of race in this country, it's the same slippery slope and they're doing it on purpose. Division is good.
This is an easy place to cause division. And it's it's it's not often that they're that that administration has an overwhelmingly popular position.
And the sentiment in this country aligns itself more with that view than what is projected onto Democrats, which may not even be accurate. Like I said, within the Democratic Party, there's general consensus and alignment there, but it's just an easy winning position and Dems probably have to find a different talking point on it.
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We move on to something of, I guess, not equal importance, but pretty seismic nonetheless. John Cena's heel turn.
Now, John Cena, for many, many of you, you know about this. It's basically, there was everything before John Cena's heel turn and then everything that happened since.
One thing that I can't wrap my brain around, Zaz, is what's in it for Travis Scott? I'm very down on this, Travis Scott. By the way, can I also tell you, not only have I been to a Travis Scott concert, but I was on the railing, on the floor, at a Travis Scott concert.
How is that look at me, Louie, if I say that I was at a concert? I didn't say I had lunch with him anyway. That is surprising.

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I was there with my son.

You should have said, no, I was there by myself.

I love Travis Scott.

I don't know anything about Travis Scott.

I don't know anything about Travis Scott.

My son was there with a few of his friends.

I was hanging underneath in the Dewar's Lounge, and I thought the show was almost over.

So I went out so I can kind of meet up with my son, and I have the all-access pass.

And I'm just kind of waiting on the rail, which, by the way, no one else is on the floor.

I'm like the only one on the floor so everyone saw me I'm on the rail at the Travis Scott show did you have a good time and I was there I was I was on the rail for like 30 minutes the show just wouldn't end uh it was it was really strange no I didn't have a good time it was weird man I don't get it he's it. He's got a great energy.
He's a good live performer. He's got a new head.
Oh my God, I've never seen a crowd like the one at that show. It's like the new rock show.
It's like the new mosh pit. All the way up top in the rafters, jumping up and down.
Losing their minds. Yeah, pretty crazy.
In terms of being able to control an audience and command an audience for better or worse, given Travis Scott's history, gets away from him but being able to put fans in a total uproar and get them to lose their minds Travis Scott freaking out an audience and I know that it's loaded given his history but I don't know why he would punch Cody Rhodes yeah that's why I'm down on him he punched him right in the side of the hound like that he couldn't even block it he couldn't defend himself cheap himself. Cheap shot that seemed to do some real damage.
Yeah, he had a busted eardrum, apparently, and he showed up to work two days later, Cody, and he had a busted up eye. I'm very down on Travis Scott.
Poor Cody. But then John Cena disappears for a couple of weeks, and we don't have any answers for his actions.
All we have are questions. So John Cena finally appears.
And by the way, I love, great idea to have this buildup for WrestleMania really kick off in earnest in Europe. European crowds are the absolute best.
They are so good at these wrestling events. I don't want our big sporting events overseas.
I don't like that. I want all big WWE shows overseas.
If I can't be at the show, I want it to be overseas. Well, they're just so used to songs because of soccer.
Yeah, it's very soccer. Yes, because their sporting culture is so great, where here it's just like, let's go Cena.
Defense. Defense.
Maybe the occasional everybody clap your hands. You're saying bangers right now.
What's wrong with what you're saying? Look, I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel here, but I do like what Europe does with it, where they sing popular songs, and they make soccer chants into wrestling chants. It's a great thing.
We should encourage that here in the States. But it's really good for WWE, too, because it helps establish clear narratives.
And the fans watching at home are going to take their note from the fans over there in the audience. Like, oh, Cody Rhodes is actually still over as a babyface, this rare white bread babyface.
It's a perfect crowd, man. It was great.
So John Cena comes out, and I didn't like certain aspects of this, but it caught me so off guard, Zaz, because't expect this to be the direction i didn't expect him to come out in the same like fruity pebbles

t-shirts right me neither i thought he was going to do something to his look i thought he was going

to i mean his face changed when he he got the signal from the rock so the explanation worked

though as to why he's keeping the same look the same colors the same music i think it's because

they printed a lot of t-shirts and they probably decided on this he's keeping the same look, the same colors, the same music.

I think it's because they printed a lot of t-shirts.

And they probably decided on this heel turn a little late in the game.

But whatever.

That's fine.

But there's logic here.

They can reverse engine.

It was just totally expected that, like, okay, we're going to make John Cena the chicken shit heel.

Okay, that's not exactly.

But it makes sense with the long-term storytelling because John Cena hasn't been able to win a match on his own head-to-head. So he resorts to some of the evil, but I didn't like that he didn't mention The Rock.
I didn't like that he didn't mention Travis Scott. Well, he's going to be on TV again this Monday and the Monday after that.
I mean, let it play itself out over a few weeks. I'm willing to go with this.
I think that I was really surprised. This past week was about, I got a problem with the fans.
Yeah, and then Cody Alpha'd him. Yeah, and so maybe next week will be, all right, this is why I now love The Rock.
This was refreshing in that Cody has kind of been built up by all of his, you know, going up against The Rock, going up against Roman Reigns. He's always been, every Raw leading up to WrestleMania was Cody Rhodes getting his ass kicked.
There wasn't time for Cody Rhodes, really, in any of these programs. Like, he's worked some good matches, good programs with Kevin Owens and AJ Styles, where he's gotten to be a tough guy, but I really like the dynamic, which is like, Cody Rhodes, headline wrestling, you lose all the time.
If this is the guy that I'm facing, I'm going to kill you. And then he called him a whiny bitch, which everybody's going to think is cool.
If you call someone a whiny bitch in wrestling, you're the much cooler guy. They go to that well occasionally with Cody Rhodes when they really want to hammer home a point.
I'm not the biggest fan of it, but I want the storytelling to evolve. But I was so caught off guard by him coming out with his traditional look and by the logic to his turn and not invoking The Rock that I was like, okay, I'm kind of in on this because I'm surprised by it.
And it's not often that wrestling surprises people. And it's done so with this.
The part that's also interesting to me is, and you know, there's a meme out there now with the kid. Was that a plant? No way was that a plant.
He had the sticker still on the shirt. No way.
It looked like a plant. What's the matter with you? And you got the kid who was shook.
They had the camera locked in when he goes like, and this kid. Like, they talked about that one.
Well, they may have told him, hey, there's a kid sitting right over here. He's wearing your gear.
Maybe that's the kid you point out will be ready for it. He's got great seats.
Yeah, you know. Plant.
So you got this meme now, this kid who is shook. And I'm just thinking, man, because wrestling wasn't like that when I was a kid where I'm a huge Hulk Hogan fan growing up, the age that that kid was in the crowd, and if my hero is now telling me as a kid to go F myself, like, that's wild to me, that kids are probably so sad at what's going on there on my television that I'm super entertained by it.
The logic behind a dude that has just been beaten down by social media and fans, like, I can't do right. And after 20 years, like, it's finally gotten to me.
It actually tracks. And a lot of it's actually happening in pop culture, too.
We're seeing, like, Drake fatigue, and he's kind of had a bit of a heel turn, certainly happening in hip-hop a lot with some of the other names that we've referenced there for way different reasons. But it does kind of tap into what's going on with pop culture.
The guys that were celebrated are now vilified through a lot of their own, in some cases, heinous actions. But it's cool to see art kind of imitate life a little bit here, and I'm very curious to see where this one goes.
I'm excited. This is fresh, and it's not often that WWE feels fresh.
Look, there's a good guy, there's a bad guy, someone gets low blowed. There's only so many things that you can do in the world of wrestling.
Turning John Cena heel, we've never, well, we have seen it before in his earlier days, but not as one of, like as a megastar, as the face of a generation of wrestling. So I'm really curious to see where this one goes.
And I'm super hyped for WrestleMania season. Are you going out there? I am not going out there.
That's a shame. This one's in Vegas.
I know. I'm not going out there.
Hang out with all the wrestling fans. It's a little bit too far.
I mean, it's a very long flight. You know, it's two nights.
I mean, these ticket prices, it's the Super Bowl. West Coast WrestleManias, by the way, are the best.
They start early in the day. Yeah, they start.
Yeah. So you're done.
The worst part about leaving Philadelphia, it takes you an hour to leave the stadium. You're like, all right, all right, boys, what are we going to be doing now? It's 1 a.m.
It's hard to catch a vibe there. West Coast, WrestleMania.
Yeah, let's go out to dinner. Awesome.
Yeah. No, I'm not going.
I'm not going this year. I'm sorry.
Tony, you're looking a little rough around the edges lately. Is this a new look? Are you pivoting? No, I've got a bit of an issue, Mike, and I think I need the boys to help me out.
Is this your Justin Timberlake Man in the Woods era? It's called having a newborn. That's what it is.
Well, no, but I'm very usual. I'm very regular with my haircut, right? Like every week, week and a half, I get my fade with a two up top and my cruise.
Very clean, always. My issue is that my barber's out of commission for the next couple weeks until essentially another like 13 days.
You got to cheat on your barber. So I got on my barber but i don't want to zaz i know obviously it's been a while since you've cheated on a barber but wow more importantly what do you think about cheating on a barber where i've been going to this guy for 13 years 14 years go the you got every every 10 days i go every 10 days yeah every 10 days that's like the rule every the rule.
Every 10 days is close to my house. Jeremy, you're like a two weeks guy? I'm a two weeks guy.
You nailed it. Two weeks, three weeks if I'm really pushing it because I know I have a TV appearance coming up and I want to get a little closer to that TV appearance.
Chris, I think you're like a three weeks guy. Oh, I'm more than that.
I'd say a month. When I had the good hair, I would wait.
I'm at least a month. Every know, every 10 days.
Sometimes I'll even push it like to a month and a half and I'll have my wife clean up my neck. I can't do that.
I do it all myself. You don't say.
Yeah. I would have never been able to tell that.
Yep. Big boy.
Roy also does that. That's right.
Yeah, Roy cuts his own hair. Yeah, haircuts apparently are $50 now.
Dude, they're expensive. So expensive.
I just switched barbers, some closer to my house, and you can't find one nowadays. Do you get the shave? Yeah, the full kit and caboodle.
With like the big blade? Yeah. Are you ever worried? You're like, you know.
Right, I guess if I just got a haircut, it might be. You got a lot of veins over here, dog.
Oh, no. I mean, right now, it's not clean at the moment.
I didn't go yesterday. But yes, when I do get a haircut, I get the big thing.
But you don't get nervous? Nah, I trust them. They're professionals.
I like that part. It's nice.
I read about sharks attacking people all the time. One thing I haven't read about in a very long time is, oops, Barber accidentally killed somebody.
Sweeney Todd. That was the last guy.
Brian Adams was in the band. The demon Barber of Fleet Street was the last person.
And he was intentionally doing it. Right.
The accidental throat slash. Never heard the accidental.
That's something that. And I'd be on that algo.
But by your math, we're kind of due, no? That's a good point. We're probably doing a place that we wouldn't hear about it.
Maybe somewhere across the world it's happening. Europe? But you're back in wherever.
The world's a big place. A lot of bad barbers out there.
Could be a lot of bad barbers out there. Who knows? But the issue is, I'm already grandfathered in with a price from 15 years ago.
Really? No, no, no. We've done this on Mystery Creek.
So how much do your haircut cost? We've shamed Tony. You shamed me for being loyal to a guy for 15 years? It's like one of his, like it's a good buddy of his and he's still giving him like $, like, $15 for a haircut.
That's not true. This guy's, like, losing money off of Tony.
I don't understand. It's not $15.
You're asking if you should go and cheat on your barber. Does your barber think that when he goes on vacation, like, you're just not allowed to get a haircut? That's what I'm saying.
We talked about it. I mean, he's on vacation.
I know. We talked about it, too.
He's like, hey, in March, I'm going to be out. I'm doing this and that.
And I was like, okay, cool. All right.
I'll worry about it in March. But now it's March, and now I'm worried about it.
Yeah, it goes to somebody else, man. So Mike Fuentes...
What are you paying? Don't worry about me. I'm curious.
I'm not going to take a quiz. How much do you think is too much for a haircut? Definitely 50.
Well, I know what haircuts cost because I take my kids. I mean, if you're a male and you're paying $30.

Hang on.

I wrote down the number that I pay every 10 days.

I wrote it down here.

I'm just going to slide it over to you on the table.

You tell me if that's too much. This is including tip.

This is including tip.

This is my all-win price.

Is this a shave also?

Yes.

I bet it starts with a six.

Is that too much?

It's more than that.

That number is offensive. What's the first number? That number is shocking.
All right, let's work backwards. What's the last number? Zero? Zero? All right, good.
All right. 60, 70, 80.
Did I know it was one of those three? Yeah. It can't be 80.
It was 70. Okay.
I just told you $30. Now, granted, I didn't say the beard, you know, but if you're paying over $30, you're a male, I think that's a lot.
Mine was $45 before tip. What do you tip there? $5 or $10? Yeah, what do you tip? I go...
I recently picked it up from $15 to $20. Whoa! Yeah, I go $15.
I gave $60. You're giving a 40% tip then.
I tipped $15 on a $45 haircut, so I paid $60.

Look, Rosie's good.

You know who goes to Rosie?

Ubaldo Jimenez.

You think I'm not going to trust Ubaldo Jimenez's barber?

$70 every two weeks, you said?

Every 10 days.

You won't go Ubaldo.

What is not an acceptable tip for the barber?

I think they're fine with $5.

I get $5 when I take my son. I recently, like, so it took me forever to go from $10 to $15 because it was just like what I was doing.
And then I was like, man, that's pretty bad. Let me get it at $15.
And then breaking that routine got me to go from $15 to $20 like real quick. But here's the thing, guys.
I'm in relationship with my barber. I'm almost like an affiliate marketer for my barber.
It's different with me. I have a different setup.
I have so many people that I've recommended to go to him. And that they pay a different price.
So you're like Ubaldo. But he has a month.
I assume he rents a chair at a place, right? He owns the barber shop. Five-star cuts down in the crossings.
Yeah, why doesn't he recommend a guy? Like when a doctor leaves town, a doctor says, okay, God forbid something happens, you're going to pick up my patients. There's just no way when you text him that you're coming in, he sinks a little bit.
I don't text him. I set up.
I'm going to make a little less money than it was. I'm a Primo's guy.
Absolutely not. I'm a Primo's guy.
I'm a five-star guy. That's all right.
You can be a five-star guy. Tell me your price.
Tell me your price. I'm not going to tell you that.
But what I'm going to tell you is. If I drop your name, if I say, hey, Tony Collada, you'd send me.
He's not saying it because Tony's price is nobody else's price. Tony doesn't want to say it because then everyone's going to go there.
Because everyone's like, I want the Tony price. That's the thing.
But you can't always get the Tony price. You've got to be there for 15 years.
You've got to recommend a certain amount of people. You pay half of what I do.
But his rent has gone up. I just don't understand.
See, Les, that is so messed up. And he's your boy? That's my, again, Chris, you're not understanding the part that me and him have a long-standing relationship.
But his rent has still gone up over the years. There's no way he's paying less than he was 10 years ago.
No, but everybody's like, this guy's such a great billboard for my business. This guy goes out like, hey, your hair looks incredible.
Where do you get your hair cut? How many times has he been on the show? Once. No.
He cut my dad's hair. He cut Mike Ryan's hair.
Okay, so twice. That's twice.
This was a dude that shaved my head? Yes. Twice in 20 years.
Terrible job. And you've mentioned it like five times.
No, he nailed it. I was definitely bald.
Just wasn't happy with the results. Well, that's more of an issue with the fine bumps.
Your boy came back, though. Of course.
It allowed me to get some topical treatments on there. It's almost like that it's rude.
No, no doubt. What I kept telling myself is there are some people that when they shave, it does come back stronger.
It comes back stronger. That's why sometimes you shave babies' heads.
All of a sudden, boom, they flow with hair. That's a very Latin thing.
It is. Affiliate marketers ask, okay, I take care of my people, they take care of me, and that's how we do it.
I just don't understand. He goes on vacation.
He thinks thinks you're supposed to look sloppy until he gets back. That I haven't really.
He's putting you in a bad position here. The issue is so Mike Fuentes goes to the same barbershop I go to.
He goes to the guy across from my guy, Luke, JJ. Now me and JJ are friendly, but I've never cut my hair with JJ.
So I got to text Luke and he's in a different place. So maybe the time zones are off.
So I got to text him. Hey, can I go to JJ? Like, am I good? Yeah, you want to yeah you want to vet him through your guy yeah exactly and be like oh no maybe maybe use this guy or that guy or whatever or yeah right or go to jj right so i want to get my guys like my doctor is going to give me the opinion and then tell me hey go to this specialist i like this guy a lot he knows what he's doing how much do you pay for yours i do it myself all the time or all the time.
You don't have a black tie event where you're like, I should probably. No, because I shave my head with the electric razor straight up the closest.
How about on the beard? Just go all over the place. So you let the beard grow for a couple days and then you just shave it down? No, I do it all.
I do it all. I don't use shaving cream and a regular razor anymore.
I haven't done that in years. Really? Yeah.
You just raw dog it.

That's a thing in the past.

Well, no, I'm using an electric razor.

No, I know.

You raw dog the electrical razor.

That's not raw dog.

Raw dog.

That is raw dog.

No, I use the electrical razor all over.

Beard and head.

That implies that some people use shaving cream for an electrical razor.

No, no, no, no.

Right.

No, but any topical treatments after the fact?

No, I don't need it.

You got to kind of do that.

You get ingrown hairs and whatnot. Alcohol.
Do I have any? Yeah. What? What do you mean? Yeah, you do, actually.
Yeah, really? Yeah. Like all across your neck, unless that's rosacea, which it might be the case.
Maybe. But it's along the neckline.
Am I having a bad skin day? Like there. You got some shaving bumps there, pal.
We don't have to zoom in there. Let's not do that.
Well, he was lying. Not lying.
Maybe I'm mistaken. You can't call me a liar right here.
He was saying that he didn't get ingrown hairs or shaving bumps. No, I do it all myself.
Zaz, why don't you go full beard? He has over a dozen. You know why I don't go full beard? I used to, but my beard comes in all white now, and I look too old.
There's stuff for that. No, see I can't do that because then everybody's like, oh wow, you're coloring your beard.
Like I've waited too long to do that. I should have done that when it started to gray.
Fat Joe has an incredible product. He's on the cover of it.
All right, so we'll get away from your hair and back to, look, Sports Equinox is happening. Niche Sport Equinox is happening, especially down here locally.
We have ATP. We've got WTA.
We've got Homestead Motor Speedway. But everyone's going to be pretty locked in on March Madness, even though the ratings down here are pretty bad historically.
Always. We don't have a team.
We don't have a horse in the race this year. But give me a March Madness set of the day to get me excited for what's on tap.
Start of the day. It is the start of the day.
This is very exciting. And I know you were thinking like, oh, the tournament.
I don't know if I'm into the tournament.

So I got something if you're looking to watch a little.

I'm going to be into the tournament.

If you're looking to watch a little less, yesterday you could have.

Because yesterday, every single team that was winning at halftime went on to win the game.

So you could have just watched the first half yesterday and been like, all right, I know this game's going to end.

Yeah, you actually didn't really have to watch any of it.

And you didn't, like I know I didn't miss much but i will be i will be watching omir that's that's my that's my guy it was not a good tournament day yesterday it was not good but you're saying the balance of things it'll work out it always balance itself out always and it's the fact that we had no madness yesterday you'll see you're gonna have like four or five games today where you're gonna to have the Madness. It always balances out.
Well, the Baylor game, they're a one-and-a-half-point dog, so it's an 8-9. Live doggy.
Yeah, you got to think that that game will be close. Well, I don't know.
The 8-9 yesterday was some blowout. You know, that was Louisville and Creighton, right? Another tournament that, you know, is kind of hit or miss so far is the March Sadness tournament, Chris.
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So March Sadness, polarizing again this year. I think most, a lot of the feedback that I'm getting that's on the negative side is from exclusive podcast listeners.
And I kind of get that because these are fan submitted videos and they're largely visual. You have the fan pointing and stuff.
So we'll do a better job of trying to describe what's going on by not stepping on some folks. But do we have any submissions today, Chris Cote? Yes, we have a bunch.
Go to our social media.

You can vote on all these. Watch all of our

submissions. We had matchups yesterday.

That voting is done. And today we will

release the rest of our first round matchups.

We will preview right here a one seed.

We have Matt, who's doing a

great limited fake versus 16 seed

Steven.

I did fake Dan.

No one

understands how strong

Trent Williams is. Dan, 64 fans competing for a chance to do something everyone knows that you don't want to do.
You know what we call that? It's called Something's Gotta Give. Bracket Busters.
Buzzer Beaters. Cinderella's.
Upsets. Blue Bloods.
You know what the B in Blue Blood stands for? It stands for Beep Count. You know what the other B in Blue Blood stands for? It stands for Best Fan of the Show.
This is a hell of a video. Speaking of hell,iles dan this has been my march sadness submission so was that the 16 that's a 16 yeah the 16 uh billy and the committee did the rankings but yeah that's a strong 16 that's right high production quality there for 16.
that's not the way that a one versus 16 should go that's a tough break when it's a one versus 16 i should 16, I should never ask, who's the 1 seed? I mean, it was a good limited fake. Trent Williams.
What he did with his face was definitely on brand for Dan. And that 16 seed's beep count.
So he's the guy that tracks all the beep count. It's an A1 listener for us.
But we're not going to rank you higher just because we know you to be a good listener. But we're aligned.
But it was a good video. It doesn't have to be a 16.
I'm with you. Don't we have alignment, though, that you should never ask who is the one seed in a one versus 16? We played a couple, like, five seeds yesterday that were not that great.
So I don't know what's really happening here. Yeah, in retrospect, very confused as to why Dan didn't talk about the Jackie Robinson story.
I came in yesterday, and I was not worried, but, man, this is a day for me to come in. We're going to do two hours on Jackie Robinson here.
And light reps for you. Host has got this one.
Well, no, but that's not the way I want to look at it, because I have to contribute. I'm not here for nothing.
And it's like, all right, we're going to do Jackie Robinson, I guess. If you said, Jeremy, are we going to talk about Jackie Robinson or foreplay? I definitely would have told you Jackie Robinson.
Jeremy, not only do you tickle the keys. Good for you.
You tickle other things I learned yesterday. Relax.
But part of your duties here, your ambiguous, amorphous duties here, is occasionally you invoke your musical talent. And you had a song ready for Dan.
I did. We all knew that Dan was going to go to Jackie Robinson.
And then he didn't. And then he didn't.
So we never got to play this song. And here's to you, Jackie Robinson.
You're D-E-I and what that means Who knows Whoa It just means black Jackie Robinson DEI is their new word for whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa I mean that's an earworm Ah come, come on. Great lyrics there.
It just means black. I'm really proud of you right there.
Again, we got March Madness today. Hopefully we turn things around.
It was a tough day for those that were following the ACC and listen to our agenda here on the end. It was a bad day for the ACC.
Hand up. You, Mizzou over here.
Where'd he come from? M? Mizzou I mean, dude Mizzou was the easiest call to fade You said from two weeks ago This team stinks This team sucks And then you sing the praises of Bennett Sturtz You tell me how great Bennett Sturtz is How he's the next coming of I don't know who Jimmer Ferdette Jack Golke Whoever you want to mention Okay, the secret sauce, by the way And then all all of a sudden you go, no, I'm going to go Mizzou,

and I'm like, dork, you don't know ball, buddy.

Louisville let me down.

Will Wade, I thought he had one foot out the door already to NC State.

One foot up Clemson's ass is what he had, buddy.

Again, you missed that one too.

But, you know, with the ACC, it's North Carolina, it's Duke.

We got those two teams today.

We're going to carry the conference on our back, and we're going to bounce back. Get out of here.
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