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Hey, Taylor. Welcome to God Bless March Madness.
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They saw Chris Cody, Mike Ryan, Billy Gill, and Jeremy Taché looking back at them. I was like, anybody else? Can anybody else talk college basketball? Dan doesn't know that I'm doing this.
And I want to start off by saying huge win for Carolina. First off, Joe Linardi, Seth Davis, Seth Greenberg, John Fanta, John Rothstein, and every West Virginia government official, dead to me.
Lucy, it's been a brutal couple of days for West Virginia. Yeah, they're not having a particularly good time.
So it started Selection Sunday. I guess you could say it started in the Big 12 tournament, but Selection Sunday, West Virginia is left out in favor of Carolina, or at least that's the team they're kind of focusing on, the one that they were like, we deserve to be here more than Carolina does.
So West Virginia is all levels of mad. And despite that, there were probably a lot more serious problems happening in that state.
The governor was like, nope, this is not allowed. You have done it.
You have waged war with the state of West Virginia. And so he comes out and is like, NCAA, it's coming for you.
Good luck. Hope you're ready for it.
Then we're going to destroy the selection committee. All of that is happening.
And they have all their focus on destroying the NCAA that they have no idea that their head coach is out interviewing for other jobs as they speak. As they are taking down the NCAA, Darian DeVries is at Iowa, is at Indiana, having these conversations.
Unfortunately, he picked wrong, chose the wrong choice, and decides to sign with Indiana and leaves. So West Virginia now has waged war with the NCAA.
They're coachless. They're the NCAA tournament they're not in the NIT they declined the invite so now things are bad and just like a little cherry on top the team that they focused on that they were like we're better than Carolina Carolina in the first four beats the literal crap out of San Diego State to the point where I had to turn it off because it felt excessive.
I said, I don't want to watch this. Not safe for young viewers.
It was such a beatdown. Yeah, they cut it to 30, and it almost didn't tell the full story of how bad that game actually was.
But West Virginia, watching from home like everybody else, and I actually have a first-round game I'm most excited to watch. I'm going first game of the tournament, the 8-9 matchup.
It is Louisville and Creighton. I can't figure out the disrespect the committee gave to Louisville because in the final AP poll...
I think you're pronouncing it wrong. Louisville.
You kind of just have to... Louisville was an AP top 10 team the final poll before the tournament.
The committee gives them an 8 seed, implying that there's 28 teams better than them. Mike Malley was showing me this conspiracy on Twitter that he thinks people got Louisville and Memphis confused and they switched their seeds because Memphis is a five and all the metrics kind of support the opposite.
But this Louisville team, really fun. They brought in Pat Kelsey from the College of Charleston.
They have the Sunbelt. He's weird.
I like him. He's got weird energy.

And he brought in the Sunbelt Player of the Year,

Terrence Edwards Jr. from that James Madison team

that pulled off the 5-12 upset of Wisconsin last year.

Speaking of that Wisconsin team,

they also brought in Chucky Hepburn from that Wisconsin team

who was a first-team All-ACC Defensive Player of the Year.

And Stu Gatz always tells you when you get to March it's all about experienced guard play Louisville Louisville nobody has more experienced guard play than Louisville but that great in Louisville game great way to kick off the tournament with two teams that have a legit case for feeling underseeded with the women's tournament what can you tell us about the drama that they had with the unveiling of their bracket? I don't know if there's ever been a tournament release where so many coaches have been upset about one seats, which I know it's only two out of the four, but that's a high number that it's happened twice. Usually people are pretty pleased to be a one seed.
So it started with UCLA getting the number one overall seed. They only have, what, two losses on the year to USC both times.
And then South Carolina got the second overall seed. So Dawn Saley was super, super upset saying that South Carolina deserved the number one overall seed.
I test she's absolutely right. Correct.
What South Carolina did after that UConn loss, which was awful. It was a terrible loss.
I haven't seen South Carolina lose like that in a very long time. They've completely turned it around.
They are playing like the best team in the country. And then you saw that in the SEC championship where Texas didn't stand a chance.
It was all South Carolina the entire time. So Dawn Staley comes out and she's like, we should be the number one overall seed.
Like this is, this is messed up. And then she kind of pulled like a little bit what Alabama did when they were left out of the playoff and was like, we're not going to schedule tough teams anymore if we're not going to be rewarded for that.
She was like, okay. And I do agree that South Carolina is the best team in this field.
They probably should have been the number one overall seed. However, UCLA was number one overall seed.
UCLA has a head-to-head win over South Carolina. And when they have a head-to-head win over like a team, you're like, girl, I think you're right, but they do have a head-to-head win over you.
And it's hard to argue with that. And so I do think it's totally valid.
I think they're the best team in the tournament. I think they're going to win the whole thing this year, especially because I think that Dawn Staley definitely believes her team is the best overall team in this field.
I think she's doing a little bit of the Kirby smart thing. Everybody's doubting you.
They didn't even think you were the best team in the country. No one believes in you, South Carolina women's basketball.
And so now that there's like somewhat of a chip on the shoulder for South Carolina,

I think it's pretty much over for everybody else.

At the same time, USC, the other one, the one in California,

they were like, we don't like our number one seed.

I think this one's a little bit more valid,

especially because USC leads the series against UCLA 2-1.

And the first two times they played, USC was really dominant over UCLA in a way that's made me kind of nervous about UCLA's tournament chances. And so USC got the fourth overall highest seed, which just doesn't really sit right when they have those head-to-head wins over UCLA.
I understand that UCLA beat them at the Big Ten Championship game, but that game was dominated by USC for a large chunk of it. UCLA just came back and kind of had one of those moments.
And so what's really upsetting is that USC got UConn as the two seed in their region. And nobody, like every two seed is good, but UConn is a particularly good two seed.
As we talked about just a little bit ago, UConn beat the brakes off South Carolina. This is not your average two seed.
And so the fans are super upset because it's like Juju Page is a matchup you get in the final four, not the elite eight. So USC is unhappy about their seeding.
The other USC is unhappy about their seeding. Texas and UCLA, pretty quiet.
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So I'll leave with one final stat. In the first 13 NCAA men's basketball tournaments that have featured the first four, at least one first four team has survived until the round of 32 in all but one of those seasons.
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Less Taylor.

Just less. He killed it.
More. The show? He's been right about a lot, and he knows ball.
Everyone knows that about Taylor. And this is March last I checked.
Taylor! They told us the SEC was 10 bits better than the ACC. Why do they keep doing this? Who could have seen Texas, the team that was 8-13 since January 1st losing? Who could have possibly seen that coming? Talk your shit, Taylor.
6-12 in the conference Texas was. Give them that stat that you gave me.
I have to get my phone out. Dan, stall for me.
I love Mike claiming UNC as a win for Miami, seemingly. Oh, no.
ACC. They do this every year.
And sometimes it's Miami carrying them. Sometimes it's NCC.
It's the bad teams that carry them. You can catch Zaslow on ESPN radio.
And something that I've noticed, I noticed it this morning when I was gone downstairs, that on ESPN, one of the anchors on ESPN, I did not recognize. That happens a lot to me, but looked extraordinarily young to me.
And the thing that I wanted to talk to you guys about is if the highlight show is endangered and if the sports anchor is endangered. Because we have sports that we consume through highlights.
The casual fan observes through highlights, the NBA chief among them, but observing it on highlights on your phone or through your social media is different than having to go to your television. And I assume, I don't assume, I actually know that throughout the industry, everyone's being asked to take pay cuts because media is shrinking, media is in trouble and there are fewer jobs in general than there used to be and as a practice ESPN makes sure that the four letters are the thing that matters the most and that other parts are interchangeable or disposable I think I think Scott Van Pelt is so popular that ESPN will continue to pay him.
But I also know that if ESPN lost Scott Van Pelt, it wouldn't be some sort of seismic thing just because in general, the sports anchor is less valuable throughout everywhere in television than he or she has been almost the entirety of my lifetime. Well, that part is – go ahead.
I'm sorry, Roy. Well, I don't think we're losing the highlight show.
I mean, SportsCenter is going to expand it out to Disney+, with Gary Streisky and Randy Scott. Those are the best two doing it in terms of chemistry with each other right now.
I know, like, Linda Cohn's still doing it, and there are still, like – No, they're the new guys show. Instead of Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann, it's Gary Streisky and Randy Scott.
They're fantastic. I feel like one of the big complaints that fans, that viewers have with ESPN Television these days is that they want more SportsCenter.
They want more highlight shows. That they miss that part know the same way that you know you get older people say mtv oh why don't they have videos anymore i feel like we're in that place with espn where they want more sports center and scott van pel by the way i think you're wrong about that part because that show is pretty damn important he gets amazing guests after all the big games be it you know if it's college football game or if it's NBA or even if it's for the next year, Major League Baseball.
He gets the great guests on the field, on the court, right after the game. That show's pretty popular.
I think you're wrong about the Scott Van Halpern. And it fixed the ratings issue with that time slot at SportsCenter.
I read a think piece that actually said, stop thinking of him as a sports anchor. Start thinking of him as a late night talk show host because his ratings kind of command that a little bit you need to start yeah well that is good spin from the agent trying to get incredible no this is my price range i'm more like john stewart price range than you know randy scott price range but that you should absolutely think of him as a nighttime host because he's emceeing an evening talk show.
I actually found that stat. Oh, good.
Thank God. Since 2015 in the NCAA tournament, wins above seed expectation, the ACC, 21.1, the most of any conference, SEC, minus 4.6.
Overrated. Jeremy just whispered to me, is this what it feels like when i talk is it that bad you're less nervous but you don't have the uh accompanying visual aid of popping out from under mike ryan that is endearing uh the the scott van pelt thing just to clarify okay because i want to make sure people understand this.
I mean it as no indictment of Scott Van Pelt. He's as good as anyone who has ever

done this. I mean it as no indictment as of Scott Van Pelt.
He's as good as anyone who has ever done that. I'm just saying the construct of what it is these things are, it makes it so that that kind of personality is less important than he or she has ever been.
And the movement throughout the industry seems to be that it doesn't matter who the anchors are. You guys are telling me that there's a new big show because Dan Patrick and Keith Oberman changed television, but they were also at the center of bucking up against ESPN on ESPN, wanted them to change television, but wanted ESPN to get the credit for changing television, not any individual to have the personal power to be able to do anything that harms those letters if they leave.
In fact, I would say that one of the chief forms of leadership at ESPN has been simply to make sure that no one else establishes the precedent of being more important than the other folks on the network. We experience that.
I would say that just in general, it's not even a bad thing to do as a business because it's one way to keep costs down. So I like that late show.
I like Scott Van Pelt as a personality, but I don't believe that if I suddenly took Scott Van Pelt off of that and did a form of the same show, that the larger entity of ESPN would be harmed any more than it's already harmed

by whatever it is that you think the defections or the loss of quality is.

You're getting buy-in from Chris here, but the ratings speak for themselves.

Like, when he took over, he saved that show that was in freefall,

and he's built an audience.

So I guess in the hypothetical I would agree with you,

but I have real-life examples and data that backs up that he matters. I think it's on the crawl right now on ESPN.
Dan Labatard says Scott Van Pelt, not important. Not what I said.
Not what I would ever say. I would say that if ESPN chooses to make its midnight flagship something that it's pouring all of its resources in, because one of the things you guys just said is, oh, he's got the greatest guest.
That has nothing to do with Scott Van Pelt. Partnerships with leagues.
Like that Scott Van Pelt is being put in a good position to have maximum support and resources and do that better than most people have ever done it. But the way that he's created moments in these interviews and relationships with the people that he's interviewing makes it so that the people who are being interviewed actually want to participate.
Because we've seen, I mean, we see it on regional sports broadcasts. We see it during games in between quarters.
Yeah, it's not just, hey, you're about to be on with so-and-so. It's like, oh, all right, I'm going on with Scott Van Pelt.
It's Scott Van Pelt, and that matters. And I don't know that there, Stephen A included, I don't know that there's another personality at ESPN that could be hosting that particular show at that particular time that would be able to have the viewership, comfort with the athletes, and ability to be serious and joke around the way that SVP does.
He's a singular talent at that network right now. Wow, that's something to say there, even as I admire all of his gifts.
Why did they show my fist pump? You made a good point. That's an excellent point because he can be humorous, but say there was something tragic, God forbid, something tragic happens in sports.
ESPN's going to call in. I think he's a trusted guy now on television.
They're bringing in SVP, and he's going to anchor that coverage. Yeah, I think so.
Got a couple of top five lists for you here on college basketball related content. What are you shrugging your shoulders about here, Tony? I'm saying finally, Dan, we got 47 games in the next two days.
We've talked zero zilch. I thought you wanted mine.
I got one too. We did a Sunday show that was not zero zilch.
We did three hours on Sunday to talk about the tournament. I saw.
Is Sunday last week? Is Sunday night last week? It starts the week, right? It starts the week. To me, it was last week.
But it ends the week. It's called the seventh day, but I don't know.
No, Sunday is the end of last week. Sunday is not this week.
No, that's how it feels. Technically the beginning of a week.
Calendar-wise. Seventh day and all that stuff, but no, it starts the week.
Bically, maybe. New week to start on Sunday.
Put it on the poll, Juju. Is Sunday the end of last week or the beginning of this week at Levitar Show? Or both.
This one's gonna be hotly contested, even though there is a legitimate right answer. I think I, you say the calendar and I'm saying what's gonna come back on this poll is that Sunday was last week, that Monday is the beginning of the week, that when your work week starts, that's the beginning of the week.
I don't care what the calendar says. Your boss says get to work.
Monday's the beginning of the week. Your boss overtakes the calendar and all of time history to say that Monday is the beginning of the week.
Thank God. That's generally the sentiment during these times.
I don't care what the fact is. I'm going off the gut.
No, I'm polling is what I'm asking. No, I'm going off the box.
I'm making it a democracy on the internet. That's what I'm asking you.
And I'm just asking, that's a good poll question. And wait till you get shocked by everyone's going to say Monday.
Everyone's going to get this one wrong, even though you say the fact is this. Everyone's going to go with not the fact.
Let's go first to Chris's top five list. What is your top five list? What is the subject matter? I am ranking Sports Thursdays.
Top five Thursdays on the sports calendar. Any OLIs here? No OLIs.
Are there five great Sports Thursdays, Zaslaw? I don't think... That's why there are no OLIs.
I could think of... I think there's some...
I think he can, yeah. You think you can come up with six? Well, should I give a few right at the top of my head? No, you can't ruin his list.
There are only five. And I don't know how...
I'm not totally sure how he's going to get to five. You better not leave any of mine off.
Well, I don't think there are six, so let's see what his number five is. Number five is Thanksgiving.
Nice. Football, three football games.
You got four better than that. I do.
Number four, opening night, NFL, week one. So the last few years, it's been Thursday night.
All the game game? Number three, NFL draft round one.

Thursday night. You got that better than the first game of the NFL season?

Something about the draft. Yeah, because my team

is usually not playing. It's like Bills, Chiefs.

I like it, but the draft, everyone's

got hope. Your team is never playing because it's the defending

champion. It's getting off.

Actually, not true. They've got to play another team

in the Culpepper. It's never the Dolphins, though.

Yeah. Number two, today.
March Madness, Thursday. 12-15, Creighton, Louisville.
I think I know number one. Yeah, we all do.
Number one, Masters Thursday. It was pretty easy, what he just did.
That was like nothing. Yeah.
Do you have a sixth one? No.

I probably would have had trouble coming up with five,

because I would not have had the NFL draft there.

Jeremy tried to make the argument for MLB opening day.

Regular.

It falls on a Thursday.

Regular opening day.

No.

It's 6 a.m. on a Thursday.

Well, it's technically next Thursday.

Sandy versus Skeen's day.

Oh, next Thursday. Okay, so not the fake opening day, the real opening day? Yeah.
Okay. And Tony's top five list is just five players to watch.
No, no, no, no. Don't do that to it.
Don't diminish what we're doing here, okay? The NCAA tournament, everybody on the planet will be watching this. Maybe not everybody, but a lot of people on the planet will be watching this, Chris.
I'm building out a DK lineup. I'm watching this one.
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So, Dan, what we're going to be doing is the Top 5 guys you need to be watching during this NCAA tournament, right? Which is different from what I said. Yes, completely different from what you said.
I don't know what you said, but I didn't like it. Okay, it didn't sound like you liked it.
And not everyone is going to be watching the tournament, not even most people. And you say a lot of people are going to be watching.
But when it comes to Earth, it's not even a lot of people. But continue.
The gamblers will be watching. That's what's most important.
The gamblers will be watching and taking note of, again top fives well there isn't like i i've saw um i saw john oliver do a piece last week on sports betting and one of the things that he did was point out among other things that people are betting on ping pong and betting on ping pong in poland uh now, what we're talking about today

in college basketball,

there's nothing quite like this

when it comes to gambling,

which is a whole lot of people gambling

on something that they know very little about

while doing it,

because it's just sports is happening

and on my television,

what I'm tuning in for

is just action with my money.

It's not necessarily that I care about St. Mary's or Virginia Commonwealth or know anything about the participants.
It's the most reckless you could possibly be with money. That's NCAA tournaments and gambling on it, right? I don't think it's the most reckless you can be in life.
There's a lot of other things you can do in life. You're gambling your money on something you know nothing about.
It is often the case. It's not the case for everybody.
But in terms of concentrated, I don't think there's anything like these two rounds here at the beginning where you're just inundated with action all over the place. It's just what- Olympics were pretty good.
Olympics were too, yeah. That was a rush.
See rush see now i don't think of that as the gambling event that this is i it never was until this year because the coverage is so much better now today than it's ever been that you can legitimately follow everything and the olympics while you have your niche sports that i would readily admit, I know nothing about, it's also like the second best international women's soccer competition. And you get to actually watch all these games and there's action going on literally all day.
That was a sports betting equinox that I hadn't quite experienced. And it's on a par with March Madness.
Do any of you feel some of the dirty that you feel at the NFL Sundays at the end of the day where you've just been in your house watching something on the couch or in a bar? Dirty because, like, you're a sloth? Yeah, just that it's too much, that 10 hours. Oh, not too much, but eh.
Well, if you feel dirty, it's probably because it is too much. No, no, I feel dirty, not too much like the dirt's worth it.
I feel gross I've been sitting on my couch all day the food the drinking but at the end I might I may feel like a sloth But I'm like this was a great day I like I enjoyed the whole day and you know what I'm gonna do it again when I wake up tomorrow I have not been to Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday So I don't know if there's anything that compares to what is presently going to happen in Vegas as soon as this thing kicks off, but in terms of a sports thing, the two things that I have felt that are strongest in Vegas is heavyweight fight when that mattered and you had a heavyweight champion that people cared about and what this week is in the sports books because

it's just 9 a.m over there oh it's insane you know time zones work it's 9 a.m there i wasn't there for the first round but i was there for a sweet 16 once and that was as electric as i've ever been in in terms of like one game at a time by the sweet 16 right it's it's still like there is so much action. It is a palpable buzz that you feel in the sportsbook on Sweet 16 day.
OLI, Tony. By the way, putting this out there, Tony Brackett's maybe live from Vegas for the first day of the tourney next year? Okay, Tony Brackett.
Sure. All right, cool, perfect.
All right, Dan, top five guys you need to be watching in the tournament. And, again, it's a list of all guards because guards rule March.
That's what we do here with Tony Brackett. We're going to start in the OLI.
Two OLIs that you need to be watching. Number one, from the big sky, the Grizzlies of Montana, Money Williams.
Great name. We want him to be great just based on his name.
That's not a real name, is it? His name is Money Williams, Dan. And he had a 30-burger against Tennessee earlier this season, had 36 against Portland State to open up March.
Montana lost both games. That's not the point.
Is his name actually Money? It's got to be a nickname. Did his parents name him Money? You don't know.
His mama called him Money. I'm going to call him Money.
I'm not sure his mama calls him Money, but okay. Mike, look that up for me.
I'm building out my DK logo. Oh, okay, perfect.
All right, second OLI. This name you may have heard.
Jace Richardson from Michigan State. Lefty guard combo, a little undersized, but the son of Jason Richardson.
Good crafty guard, has a nice little shot, really came on in the second half of the year. Tom Izzo always has the boys ready in March.
Jace Richardson, a name you need to be watching. Is he the Columbus guy? No.
He has a chance to shoot up draft boards, too, with this March Madness because he's one of the top prospects. But late in the season, he's really gotten a lot of buzz.
Starting to play a lot more now in the back half of the season. Izzo gave him the reins to the Spartys, and they've been playing really well.
All right, starting off, number five. I don't think anyone calls them the Spartys.
Spartys? It's just Sparty. I think you're doing that, and my father would do that.
It's a Cuban thing, yeah, sorry. Number five, Con Canuple.
Do you know where Con Canuple plays? I like saying that name, Con Canuple. Brother, I know ball.
Jason Richardson went to Columbus. He was a Columbus guy.ay richard's son he was a columbus guy oh uh money williams's uh dad is named money and his one of his sisters is named monet there's a philosophy in there great contribution that is good that's excellent work i remember one of i i remember uh somebody at sports illustrated uh there was a wide receiver named, I think, Marte Jenkins.
And he was saying that the difference between Marty and Marte is the difference between a party and a par-tay. Is there an apostrophe in there? Go ahead, Tony.
Con Canupple, the other white guy at Duke, for those of you not following along in the NCAA, he's a freshman, five-star guy who's now starting to come into lottery draft boards as a guy who could be maybe a top-ten pick. Very tough inside, got a good shot, but another white guy at Duke.
This Duke team is really good, by the way, so watch out for Khan Knuple. And as we established yesterday, the magic secret sauce of March Madness.
White guys. Backdoor cuts.
Okay, but we already did Khan Canuppel. Where are we? No, no, I know.
He's a white guy. He's giving you a paragraph.
He's highlighting part of the secret sauce. Wait a minute.
Chris isn't supporting what's happening here because I just – Chris muttered – I don't think this was on the air. I think it was just to be – Rolled his eyes.
Well, he didn't just roll his eyes. What I heard in my ears is him saying, great, a stat on every guy.
We're getting like full box scores on OLIs. Excuse me.
We got the money money thing. That was a great contribution.
That doesn't exist without this incredible top five. Number four, John Tonjay.
Wisconsin guard averages almost 20 points a game. Scored 25 points or more in eight games this season.
Can light it up. Scored 41 against Arizona.
Good little shot. Can create his own zazzle.
I know you like guards that can do that. I'm big on being able to create your own junk shot.
Impossible. It's super important.
You always have been. Yeah.
Number three. It's one of the things I'm known for.
Can you create your own shot? Not anymore. I did an intramural with those Terry Cloth shorts.
I know. You should have seen me crossing people over.
Old Terry Cloth. Number three, Chaz Lanier.
Tennessee guard transferred from North Florida. 18 points a game.
SEC Newcomer of the Year. Taking the same path as Dalton Connect last year.
Small school, got up to Tennessee, Coach Rick Barnes

and them boys. All of a sudden, Chaz

Lanier, the next evolution

of that guard that can light it up.

Hopefully, Tennessee can make a run.

Mike can have the podcast with Coach

on Gearhead Podcast.

Barn and rubber. That's how North Florida should

always be said. North Florida.

One of the reasons

that I like Florida in this tournament so much, I think against Auburn, Alabama, and Tennessee, they were 5-1. Like that team, I don't know how you feel about this.
I'm excited, yeah. How do you guys feel about this? Because Zaslow, like Udonis Haslam, identifies as a Miami guy.
It's one of the many things we have in common, me and UT. But has a has a certain allegiance to Florida when Florida starts to...
I thought you went to Santa Fe. Oh, stop it.
What an embarrassment that you would say that. Feeder school.
I went to a university. The university...
No offense to anyone who went to Santa Fe, but it's a community college, alright? And for someone who went to a university and I have a degree, alright? I have a degree from the University of Florida in journalism to say that I went to community college. I'm sorry, you're offending me.
Business decision. I went to community college.
Okay, good for you. Good for you.
So did I. But I have a degree from a university.
So do I. All right.
So do I. But you went there for your BA after you went for your AA at Santa Fe.
No, I went to the University of Florida. I started at the University of Central Florida, and then I transferred to the University of Florida.
Why would you do that? Listen, we're getting into my backstory. Number two.
Speaking of the Florida Gators, Walter Clayton Jr. Incredible guard.
Can get his own shot like Zaslow mentioned. He's going to be a good pro.
He's an incredible shot maker. Has a great three ball.
Leading probably one of the best teams in the country. Walter Clayton Jr.
I get very excited about the Gators when their basketball team is good. Well, I noticed this.
And you made it about railing against community colleges. I didn't bring it up.
He did. Dismissed it, though.
No, but the thing that you did is that you deflected from me saying that you're a Miami fan, Miami through and through, right up until the Gators are good at something, and then all of a sudden you're orange and blue. Well, I'm allowed to.
It's my school. But when it comes to football, much like

Udonis Haslam, that is just go

Canes. Yes, Canes because that's

what's best for business.

I do a podcast called Zaslow

Show 2.0. No one who's listening to Zaslow

Show 2.0, a very

very minute

number of the millions of listeners care

about the Florida Gators. A lot of them

care about the Miami Hurricanes.

And I do a podcast in Miami, not Gainesville.

So I need the Hurricanes to do well. That's what's best for business.
Again, though, you identify as a Miami person. And to me, it feels wrong to identify as a Miami person and then have this undercurrent of traitorous orange and blue.
But you say I identify as if like I'm choosing. No, I am a Miami person.
It's not a choice. It's not something I identify with.
I am a Miami person. You publicly present it as you are Miami first and I don't know that these two things are allowed to coexist.
Why not? I'm from Miami. I've lived here my whole life except when I went to school at the University of Florida.
Because Miami people hate

University of Florida people. That's how

that one works. And so you and

Udonis Haslam are the rare few

that I point to. And I'm like, those are mixed

allegiances there. Just be careful what you say about us.

As someone that

is a Hurricane fan that didn't go to this school, too,

I have the utmost respect for people

that went to other schools. Yeah, how about that?

I'm an amazing Miami Hurricanes fan.

I went to UF and I still root for the Hurricanes.

What I don't like is that you still, like,

Thank you. I have the utmost respect for people that went to other schools.
Yeah, how about that? I'm an amazing Miami Hurricanes fan. I went to UF and I still root for the Hurricanes.
What I don't like is that you still root for UF when convenient. Yeah, it's my school.
I know plenty of people that went to FSU that are like, they don't root for FSU at all in anything in their canes. Well, when my school's good, I show out.
Okay, but that's what I'm objecting to. What I'm objecting to is how bandwagon that is.
That's okay. Number one, Cam Jones for Marquette.
Probably the number one bucket getter of the tournament Koozie Award finalist, left-handed. And you know when you get that left-handed bucket getter, you can get some different angles finishing at the hoop, getting different angles in the paint.
He does everything for Marquette, leads him in points, assists, second in rebounds, and a guy who can get hot at the right time and carry a team, kind of like Kemba Walker did back in the day. Cam Jones for Marquette, Shaka Smartin them boys.
Santa Fe community collars really make me angry, man. It's insulting.
That's all I'm saying, man. I could have sworn you went there.
I'm picturing a player that gets hot at the wrong time. It's like he's at home.
He's like, shit! Why'd it get hot here? That guy gets hot at the right time. It's like, oh, we're in a game right now.
Perfect. Squish.
I wanted to ask you guys. I do not watch and have never watched any reality television.
I'm going to have a hard time saying to you guys in my entire history or in the history of reality television, I'll be someone who has trouble naming reality shows. No, I never got into any of that stuff.
However, I am interested in something that I feel like the grand majority of people are not interested in, at least in part because they find the subject unlikable. The Alec Baldwin reality show on Max, where they're showing you the innards of his life when his wife presents as Hispanic but isn't Hispanic.
They have seven kids and six animals and he's OCD. So about cleanliness and stuff, that's a bit of a nightmare to have seven kids, six animals and be OCD about cleanliness.
But they're also in his life as all of this stuff happens around him where he's killed somebody and is headed to trial because on the set a gun went off and he was holding the gun. I have found I'm only a couple of episodes in and I've found it interesting, but I think that a lot of people really don't like Alec Baldwin for reasons ranging from arrogance to politics to behavior with the paparazzi and stuff doesn't seem to like being famous at this point.

But to me, being in that man's life at that time, like really in his life, is interesting viewing.

Where are you guys on this? Because I don't think many people are watching it.

And when I brought it up before, no one's interested in talking about it.

And I'm not sure why.

Well, I have zero sympathy for the guy that doesn't enjoy being particularly famous when he's doing this reality show right now. Like, you're going to have to miss me on the I don't like all the fame that's surrounding me.
But as someone who doesn't do reality TV, why is this the one that you're picking?

I'm interested in Alec Baldwin.

I've been interested in Alec Baldwin.

I'll tell you why.

I read a long profile on him many years ago when I thought of him as a very accomplished

actor and a bit of a movie star.

And he was saying in the article with Uncommon Vulnerability and Self-Awareness, I failed as a movie star. Yeah, because he's not a leading man, right? Hank Azaria would say that after Birdcage, what famous people get who have a hit movie or show like Jeremy Piven or whatever is you get three chances.
You get they you three movies, and Hank Azaria chose Mystery Alaska and Godzilla and something else, and then never got to be the star principal again. Jeremy Piven got this after Entourage, where he got a couple of chances, and then didn't get more chances after that.
Alec Baldwin was talking about himself as a failure, and the awareness of it made him someone I'm interested in. I bought his biography and his wild arrogance is also something I'm interested in.
But the rest of you just find him not likable. Aaron Rodgers is running into this.
These reports yesterday about Aaron Rodgers is having all sorts of trouble getting any media jobs as a possibility as a fallback to retiring because the executives being quoted are calling him insufferable. Like there's a likability factor that you kind of need if you want people.
This is what Scott Van Pelt has where you're talking about. I enjoy spending time with this person.
They have a personality that is likable so you say she's not hispanic but

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