Local Hour: The Great Cream Cheese Debate

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Speaker 16 This is the Don Labatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 18 I always love when the morning starts with a little bit of a charge, Zaz.

Speaker 15 Like, a lot of times.

Speaker 18 A lot of times we walk in here, everyone's kind of sleepy. Hey, how's it going? Oh, did you see the game last night?

Speaker 19 Okay, ha ha. Oh, socks, your socks are too low or too high.
And that's it.

Speaker 18 Like, that's it. Oh, we're going to start a show now.
Okay. But sometimes someone takes out a grenade and rolls it in.

Speaker 18 And I'm like, oh, we got ourselves a showdown.

Speaker 16 So who did that here today? Oh, man.

Speaker 18 I just witnessed a shouting match, an intense shouting match. A sincere, intense shouting match.

Speaker 16 I miss Sales eating a bagel.

Speaker 18 Between Gregory P. Cody and Christopher Cody.

Speaker 16 You know what? It's funny that you say that because as I was eating the bagel, I said, like, I heard something between Chris and Greg, and I said to myself, man,

Speaker 16 I really wouldn't want to work with my father. Like,

Speaker 16 that's weird to me if I was shown on to work and, like, I work with my dad,

Speaker 16 especially in like a talent, an entertainment capacity.

Speaker 18 Me and my dad, it doesn't matter what we're doing. We would be arguing the entire...

Speaker 15 Right, I don't want to work with my dad.

Speaker 18 And

Speaker 18 if you guys think I'm sarcastic, wait till you see the tidal wave that is my father of sarcasm all the time. All the time.
And so.

Speaker 16 Like, does your dad find you funny?

Speaker 18 I don't think so. Yeah, I don't know if my dad finds me funny.

Speaker 19 I think, I think...

Speaker 18 No, he doesn't.

Speaker 18 Which is weird because he does the same jokes to me and and I'm like, wait, hold on. But when I do it to him, he's like, you're overreacting or whatever.

Speaker 18 So that relationship in a professional environment, I don't think would flourish.

Speaker 18 That's Rom said. But Greg and Chris seem to make it work week by week, but some weeks are better than others.
No, you're right.

Speaker 16 I heard Chris, again, as I was going to make a bagel. I like bagel with good cream cheese.

Speaker 16 I like the regular cream cheese because at home, my wife only buys the Philadelphia, the whipped cream cheese.

Speaker 16 I like whipped cream cheese is good and everything, but here, see, I like making myself a bagel cream cheese here because the bar.

Speaker 15 What do we have here?

Speaker 16 Yeah, here they keep it. It's the bar cream cheese.

Speaker 10 That's a great take. I hate whipped cream cheese.

Speaker 16 And that's the cream cheese I really like.

Speaker 15 I like the bar. I like a little.

Speaker 19 I want thickness with whipped cream. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 I want to have to work for it.

Speaker 10 I want that thing to almost break the plastic knife.

Speaker 18 Mike's got it. I hate that.

Speaker 21 It's terrible to put on a bagel because it's such a laborious occasion.

Speaker 15 Every time you have to

Speaker 15 pop it on.

Speaker 21 No one ever puts a foil back neatly if you're sharing.

Speaker 15 You have to chop off like a quarter of it, and then you have to just like work

Speaker 11 on the cheese. That's the good stuff.

Speaker 23 I don't like that.

Speaker 18 The thing I hate the most

Speaker 18 is when I put it on, and then now it's ripping up the ground of the bagel underneath.

Speaker 8 That's where you just leave that cream cheese there? Go get more.

Speaker 9 I hate that.

Speaker 15 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 You don't have to kill yourself trying to spread this.

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 10 if there's a big chunk there, that's fine.

Speaker 18 I want it to look like the commercials, just this nice white covering.

Speaker 9 That's where the whipped stuff came in.

Speaker 15 That's where the whipped stuff comes in.

Speaker 16 No, no, no, no, no. Whipped is for sissy's.

Speaker 18 Bar cream cheese just for making cheesecake. That's it.
No, it's it's for cooking.

Speaker 24 It's a great take.

Speaker 18 It's not for eating with tote.

Speaker 16 It's for putting on my bagel and enjoying. Yes.
So

Speaker 16 I like making myself a bagel here. All right.
Number one, I'm Jewish, so I love bagels.

Speaker 15 Number two, they just fish.

Speaker 16 Yeah. And number two, they just taste great.
So I like making myself a bagel here because I love the block cream cheese that they keep here. Anyway.

Speaker 18 Wait, hold on.

Speaker 19 Juju, put it on the poll.

Speaker 18 Block cream cheese or whipped cream cream cheese.

Speaker 25 I don't think you're going to like this. Block.

Speaker 4 Whipped cream cheese doesn't exist. Guys, it's just another tub of cream cheese that just isn't whipped.

Speaker 11 But the block that you're talking about, that's butter.

Speaker 4 There is no such thing as block cream cheese.

Speaker 15 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 15 Okay, you don't get to talk to me.

Speaker 4 I'm also Jewish.

Speaker 15 I know about cream cheese and bagels, okay? The block cheese cream cheese that comes from aluminum foil. The brick cream cheese.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 12 You're so wrong. But that's being packaged within the tub.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 15 Being packaged? What do you think? It grows up a tree for butter?

Speaker 9 No, guys.

Speaker 18 It's being packaged the brick who is this guy i don't know some kid are you even jewish oh 100

Speaker 18 oh let's have a jewish off

Speaker 18 let's not

Speaker 16 so i i love making myself a bagel here because you got the block cream cheese you got the thick cream cheese so as i was going to make myself a bagel i did i did hear chris he stormed in he was storming into this room into the main studio side and he was saying I'm about to go off on my dad.

Speaker 11 Well, all right, to answer your first question, I do love working with my dad.

Speaker 8 on our podcast, on this podcast.

Speaker 12 Now, I say that he does annoy the shit out of me all the time.

Speaker 2 So, like, that's what I have to deal with.

Speaker 8 But what you saw there was him mad at me that I didn't throw his topics on, like, because you know, we both got here late today.

Speaker 25 Traffic was bad.

Speaker 8 So, I didn't throw his topics on the sheet when the topics he sent today were just Marlins out of it,

Speaker 12 Dolphins, 2-0 in the preseason.

Speaker 9 He just looked at me,

Speaker 9 though, or whatever.

Speaker 17 Well, they're on, don't, he's even misquoting my

Speaker 17 What I said was unbeaten in two games.

Speaker 15 Unbeaten, whatever.

Speaker 17 No, not whatever. I mean, if you're going to quote my notes that you don't use, at least quote them accurately.

Speaker 8 But it's just like, there was nothing there that I'm like, oh, this is good for this.

Speaker 15 It was just like.

Speaker 17 What do you want me to write an entire paragraph?

Speaker 17 I'm writing my notes in three or four or five words.

Speaker 12 Just tend a topic that feels like, oh, this guy's trying to think of topics.

Speaker 17 If you think it's tough working with your dad, imagine working with your son.

Speaker 7 That's fair.

Speaker 15 This guy over here.

Speaker 17 I spend 20 minutes every morning, and it's early, it's not even light out yet. I spend 20 minutes every morning looking through ESPN, looking through Google stuff.

Speaker 17 Really working ahead on this, coming up with good notes, and then I don't even, I send them to him. He doesn't even acknowledge he got them, and then he doesn't use any.

Speaker 17 So, we get the show topics for today. Nothing here, nothing from me.

Speaker 18 I was confused. I said, Where's Greg's topics?

Speaker 11 Thank you.

Speaker 18 And then Greg said, I sent them in. I don't know what happened.
And next thing I know, Chris is in here yelling.

Speaker 15 Yeah. I mean, it was just

Speaker 10 you're annoying.

Speaker 15 What?

Speaker 21 Greg, it is a Tuesday. Do you have a back of my day, perhaps?

Speaker 17 Not today.

Speaker 16 Taking this week off, Dan.

Speaker 12 That's a whole nother thing.

Speaker 8 He wants it to be a SUI category, and he's done.

Speaker 27 Ready for it? How many?

Speaker 15 One. Oh, right.

Speaker 15 It's a one-man. And the winner is.

Speaker 15 Thank you.

Speaker 9 It's going to be a close vote, though.

Speaker 12 Because he'll throw a tantrum. We will make it a category with one.

Speaker 18 I mean, I think it's a great category. That is funny.

Speaker 27 It was going to be none. I can't lose.

Speaker 2 And now the SUI nominees are a best back in my day, and then applause.

Speaker 16 I like that. Chris makes it seem like Greg's topics he hands in are dolphins, marlins, heat.

Speaker 1 That is what it is. Let me read them to you.

Speaker 4 Please. While you're doing that, I'd like to issue a formal apology.
I dug my heels in on it. There not being a block of Philadelphia cream cheese.
I know what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 4 It's just the wrong decision to buy it that way with the aluminum foil wrapping. It's a crazy decision to make.
There's a tub that has the same type of cream cheese within it, but Hand up, my bad.

Speaker 18 I dug my heels in because I was worried about my Jew credentials and I didn't want them taken away the way that, you know, that was a Stugatzi wriggle out that you did because you went from the block doesn't exist to, oh, no, I prefer the whip one.

Speaker 23 No, no, no, not the whip.

Speaker 4 It's still, you can get the block style cream cheese within a tub as well.

Speaker 15 Getting whipped is crazy.

Speaker 15 You can get conventional.

Speaker 21 When people close their eyes and they think of cream cheese, I think they think of the tub of what it is that I'm talking about. Jeremy is describing.

Speaker 11 I'm the everyman. The tub.

Speaker 15 For Jews.

Speaker 21 There's the tub of the hard stuff.

Speaker 15 We like the tub of the whipped stuff.

Speaker 18 And then there's the blocks, the square groupers groupers of the hard stuff too that are only good for fettuccine alfredo michael there you go i might have to divert from you now because i've always thought the stuff in the tub was whipped no there's whipped there's one that has branded as whipped yes no i'll take the tub stuff man and then there's the tub that's regular cream cheese al dente i'll do the regular tub one i won't do the block because the block the block is harder than the tub the block is basically rubber cement you could fortify steel structures with a block of cream cheese love it nah can't be He actually did give me one topic that I should have put.

Speaker 8 Like, granted, I didn't put them on the board because we were running late.

Speaker 10 Like, it wasn't like I was like, these are crap.

Speaker 3 I feel like you're just reading these now.

Speaker 17 No, I read them.

Speaker 28 I sent them to you when this morning?

Speaker 27 No, early, but I ran late.

Speaker 10 That's why they're not on the board because I was running late.

Speaker 8 But then you attack me with why aren't they on the board? And I get defensive, and it's like, look, they weren't that good, anyways.

Speaker 9 That's really what I did.

Speaker 16 It does kind of suck, Greg, he hasn't acknowledged that he received them. He did.

Speaker 17 I get you. No, he doesn't.

Speaker 9 It says red, whatever.

Speaker 15 I can look at my phone.

Speaker 17 It says red 643.

Speaker 17 No response. Do Do you get red?

Speaker 15 Thanks, Dad,

Speaker 9 what are you talking about?

Speaker 28 A text.

Speaker 17 I sent you a text that I had emailed you in my show notes.

Speaker 8 Dolphins unbeaten in two exhibitions.

Speaker 10 Super Bowl? That's topic. That's a good question.

Speaker 7 Keep going.

Speaker 27 We'll get to that later.

Speaker 25 Kane should be favored over Notre Dame. He should be.

Speaker 22 Continue. Some are saying that.

Speaker 8 This one I actually like.

Speaker 11 Little League World Series should have a weight limit.

Speaker 17 What?

Speaker 15 Okay. He's not.
Okay. We'll get to that one later.
That's how I go on. I'll get to that one for sure.

Speaker 8 Marlin Season RIP.

Speaker 15 Okay. Ooh.

Speaker 15 I wonder what that one would be, yeah.

Speaker 8 Chinese robot Olympics are a farce.

Speaker 26 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 18 Chris, you made it so.

Speaker 15 He didn't read me. Hold on.
He didn't read me.

Speaker 16 I got the first. I was late.

Speaker 15 I just said the real reason they weren't there. I was in shambles and stuff.

Speaker 18 So, Greg actually brought up the operative question. Would you rather work with your dad or with your child? You guys all have younger children, so it's not as clear.

Speaker 18 Zaz, you and I have older children. Yeah, teenagers, yeah.
I absolutely a million times would rather work with my dad than with my child. Thank you.

Speaker 18 My child, I would actually like with my dad, it would be an argument, but I would know how to make it content and funny.

Speaker 18 With my child, everyone would be like, yo, I think something's wrong with Kameen.

Speaker 9 People say that about me, though, on our show.

Speaker 15 Was there more? I'm just an asshole.

Speaker 22 After the Robot Olympics, was there more?

Speaker 6 That was all of his topics.

Speaker 10 There's a couple more.

Speaker 17 He's selectively skipping the ones that NCWA.

Speaker 10 See, it's just kind of headlines. NCAA

Speaker 10 punishment, a wrist slap to Michigan.

Speaker 16 I will be honest, I got my topics list right here that gets printed out for me every morning. I don't have a single one from Greg.

Speaker 18 Yeah, you know, because it's on me. Because he was late.
That's on me. Ball went off him, coach.

Speaker 8 Heat, the team that national TV forgot.

Speaker 7 All right, let's start with that one.

Speaker 18 By the way, here's a picture of the tub of cream cheese that I'm talking about.

Speaker 20 Yeah, I like that. Okay.
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 9 But that's original, not whipped. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 Correct. So that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 18 I'm talking about, but I'm saying the brick is not that. The brick is harder to make.

Speaker 9 Right, but it's no, but the brick is not the same. The brick is that same.

Speaker 15 It's exactly exactly the same. It's just wrap.

Speaker 16 It's just more difficult for you to do.

Speaker 3 It says harder walls so you can scrape it easier.

Speaker 12 Also, if you're real, you call it schmear.

Speaker 18 He's calling you out, not me.

Speaker 16 Yeah, look, I understand that's a Jewish thing. It's a deli thing calling it schmear.

Speaker 15 You're putting on a bagel list.

Speaker 16 Einstein Brothers tried to capitalize off of that by calling a schmear. Whatever.

Speaker 20 I don't call it schmear. I call it cream cheese.

Speaker 18 That's the brick I'm talking. I can't think of it.

Speaker 8 It's the same material just packaging.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I love.

Speaker 15 See, it just looks authentic. See how it says Philadelphia original.

Speaker 18 Authentic. That's the OG.
The OG.

Speaker 16 That's authentic right there. That's real.
That's the OG. Philadelphia original.

Speaker 4 It's like liking different color MMs and thinking they taste different.

Speaker 15 It's exactly what they say. They do taste different.
Okay. Look at that.
Green ones and simple ingredients.

Speaker 16 That's all you need.

Speaker 17 Yeah, and an ingredient, you don't need chives. Let's keep the cream cheese pristine.

Speaker 15 Couldn't have original.

Speaker 16 Couldn't have get the hell out of my life with these chives.

Speaker 9 I love scallion cream cheese.

Speaker 15 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 27 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 10 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 15 Keep it simple. Just a regular cream cheese.

Speaker 29 What's wrong with the regular cream cheese?

Speaker 16 No one's ever, no one's been, no one's ever eaten a bagel, bagel and cream cheese, and they stop

Speaker 16 mid-bagel and they say, man, you know what could really make this bagel better? Scallions.

Speaker 7 I've said that.

Speaker 18 Scallion always

Speaker 18 makes me think a scoundrel. I don't know why.
Like, if you like scallion, I wonder what's happening there.

Speaker 15 Rap scallion?

Speaker 18 Rap scallion. There it is.
Oh, that would be a great rap name.

Speaker 15 It would be. Oh, it would be great.

Speaker 18 Rap scallion.

Speaker 15 Copyright.

Speaker 18 There it is. Scallion of an onion.

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Speaker 18 So, Greg, the team that National TV forgot, the Miami Heat.

Speaker 8 It's amazing. Give us everything you got.
Okay.

Speaker 20 All right.

Speaker 17 I get the reasoning. If you're a national TV executive, I get the reasoning.
When Jimmy Butler leaves in a hop after pouting all year, they lose a big chunk of star power.

Speaker 17 They've struggled in the playoffs two years in a row. They're out in the first round.
Last year, they lose by a record number in the first round. It was an embarrassment.

Speaker 17 I get that, but it's still a major franchise that's won three championships. I'm just saying five.
They're on TV five times on national TV.

Speaker 17 To put that in perspective, there are five teams that are on national TV 34 times. I'm just saying, are the heat seven times diminished from the top teams in the league?

Speaker 17 If the answer is yes, that's sad.

Speaker 17 I just think, wow, this is how far the heat have fallen in terms of national regard.

Speaker 18 This is what I would say, Greg.

Speaker 18 First of all, the national TV schedule, to add to your point, Given that there are more national TV games now than ever before between Peacock and Amazon and NBC, ABC, ESPN, There's going to be at a certain point in this year national TV games seven days a week.

Speaker 18 We've never had that before. So for the heat to be on five times despite all of these opportunities, all of these at-bats is pretty shocking.

Speaker 18 Having said that, when you look at how national TV schedules work,

Speaker 18 it's several things. It's

Speaker 18 they're truly great teams, but not just teams that we think are going to be great, teams that proven from a year ago.

Speaker 18 So a year ago, Oklahoma City wasn't on a lot, even though we knew it was a really good team. Now they're on TV all the time because they're the champs, because now they're cemented.

Speaker 18 The Houston Rockets got Kevin Durant. They're going to be on national TV a bunch of times.

Speaker 18 And then there's the old standards of wherever Steph Curry is, wherever LeBron James is, because all of these things are what audiences are primed to tune into.

Speaker 18 The heat, I don't think the heat are going to be bad.

Speaker 18 I just don't think audiences will hear Miami Heat and turn it on, and they don't think of all those things you're talking about, the championships and the illustration of years past.

Speaker 17 No, I agree with that, but this is what it also means to me. Let's see if you agree.
The core, Tyler Hero, off an all-star season and bam out of bio, that core along with arguably,

Speaker 17 along with arguably the best coach in the league and arguably still one of the biggest names

Speaker 17 in an executive in the league, that combo doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 18 It doesn't mean anything to the viewers. Right.
I mean, that's the reality. It's if I say heat calves tonight,

Speaker 18 how much does that move the needle versus if I say Knicks calves? Or

Speaker 18 even Pistons calves, right? Because or Pistons Knicks, right? Because the Pistons last year had a kind of splash. And so there's a feeling, oh, I kind of want to see where this is going.

Speaker 18 There's nobody in or outside of South Florida

Speaker 18 who wants to see where this Miami Heat thing is going.

Speaker 16 They won 37 games last year and played an uninteresting style of basketball.

Speaker 16 Why would they be on one five times?

Speaker 17 Again, I'm not arguing that only five versus 34 is a travesty. I am closer to lamenting the diminishment of the Heat brand.

Speaker 18 Well,

Speaker 9 now that's a topic.

Speaker 19 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 18 That's a different conversation. Everybody wants to die.

Speaker 21 I just don't think there is a foil here. I don't think that

Speaker 21 there have been years where they're off of a finals appearance and you do the comparative

Speaker 21 shopping and you say, hey, that's not right. They're on national TV enough.

Speaker 16 Right, when's the last time the Heat had the maximum national TV game? You got to go back over 10 years ago.

Speaker 21 Yeah, it has to be the LeBron days, like the tail end of that. But I remember there was one year that they made it to the finals.
They didn't have a Christmas Day game.

Speaker 21 We've seen that again with Indiana. Going to the finals no longer guarantees you the right to the Christmas Day game, but they're right where they should be.

Speaker 21 I think they are are in that mix with the Kings and the Blazers.

Speaker 18 So, how many of you guys know the actual answers to who's on national TV the most and the least and all that?

Speaker 16 Oklahoma City is tied for the most.

Speaker 18 So, I want to play a game with you guys. More or less national TV games in the heat.

Speaker 15 I like this game. Right?

Speaker 15 More or less.

Speaker 18 Let's start with a nice, easy one, a softball here. The Indiana Pacers.
Now, Indiana Pacers obviously went to the finals last year.

Speaker 18 Very exciting, fun, style of basketball, but massive injuries have made them less competitive, less desirable. So, Indiana Pacers, more or less national TV games in the Miami Heat.

Speaker 17 I would say more, more, although close.

Speaker 15 Gotta be more.

Speaker 18 It's more. It's nine.
They're on nine times, right?

Speaker 18 Oh, yeah, I like this little music. All right.

Speaker 18 Next up,

Speaker 18 Portland Trailblazers. Similarly,

Speaker 18 kind of struggling season last year, but they did have an uptick. They've kind of moving forward.

Speaker 19 We're going less.

Speaker 25 Ty, five.

Speaker 22 I'll side with Craig.

Speaker 18 Sorry. They have more national TV games than the Miami Heat.

Speaker 15 Eight.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I was going to say, now, can we admit, though, the reason they have more is because you got to fill that 10-30 slot.

Speaker 15 Whatever you want.

Speaker 16 There's only a handful of teams that can be featured because they're West Coast.

Speaker 15 That's right. That's right.

Speaker 21 Let's pacify ourselves with that one.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 18 Let's go with the Utah Jazz. Oh, it better be less.
The Utah Jazz. Come on.

Speaker 23 They're building.

Speaker 18 They just got Ace Bailey, who's one of the top prospects in the troops. He doesn't even want to be there.

Speaker 23 Mountain West time zone says.

Speaker 16 I have no idea what time that is there.

Speaker 17 I say yes. More.

Speaker 18 More games in the Miami Heat? I think so. Less.
Less. Mike, what do you got?

Speaker 23 Less.

Speaker 18 They are less. They have two national TV games.

Speaker 19 I wonder which ones.

Speaker 18 Probably San Antonio, so we get Ace Bailey versus Dylan Harper. Speaking of San Antonio.

Speaker 15 More.

Speaker 7 Yeah, a lot more.

Speaker 18 22. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Oh, wow. That makes sense.

Speaker 18 All right. Last one for you guys.
And this one is a familiar foil.

Speaker 18 You see them all the time.

Speaker 18 The Chicago Bulls. They've been in the heat the last like three or four years.
Same number of wins. They see each other in the playing every year.
They're in a major market.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'm going to go less.

Speaker 23 That team sucks.

Speaker 21 I'm going to say market dictates much more.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I'm going to say more as well.

Speaker 18 Sorry. Zaz has it right.
The Chicago Bulls are less with three national TV games.

Speaker 15 Surprising.

Speaker 21 So this is a bit of a meritocracy.

Speaker 18 Can you name the team with the least national TV games?

Speaker 5 Charlotte Hornets. Got to be.

Speaker 18 Charlotte Hornets

Speaker 27 have

Speaker 18 three national TV games. Sorry, there's.

Speaker 21 Wizards?

Speaker 18 Wizards are tied with two with the Utah Jazz and two other teams. Or excuse me, three other teams.

Speaker 16 How can the Hornets be on national TV three times?

Speaker 18 The mellow ball.

Speaker 26 Who's the team that has the most that you're like, this team's not good?

Speaker 18 The most? And I'm like, they're that like this. Who has too many? That this isn't going to be bang for the buck.

Speaker 15 I think Portland having

Speaker 15 candidates.

Speaker 18 I'm actually pretty good this year.

Speaker 13 Maybe Boston, but Boston will be good.

Speaker 18 Boston at 25, Dallas with 23, depending on.

Speaker 16 No, that makes sense. You want to see Cooper flag even if they're not that good.

Speaker 18 I would say Philadelphia with 14 national TV games. Yeah.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 16 Does anybody have zero?

Speaker 18 No. Everyone has to be on national TV at least once.
Is that a rule?

Speaker 15 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's a nice end to the music.

Speaker 12 Or just a pity thing where they're like, all right, we'll give you all one.

Speaker 18 Well, I mean, like, the teams do complain.

Speaker 18 It's funny. They complain when they're on national TV not enough, and they complain when they're on national TV too much.

Speaker 16 Look, NBA player does two things better than anyone else. Complain and not play.

Speaker 18 That's what I think. I'm not talking about the players.
I'm talking about the team.

Speaker 8 Who cares the most about it, though? Is it the front office?

Speaker 26 Is it like the COO?

Speaker 18 Mostly the broadcast people, right? The

Speaker 18 money people, because when you're on national TV, and I don't know the rules now, it used to be like Turner had exclusivity.

Speaker 18 So if you were on TNT, that means your local team did not broadcast anything. And so while Jeremy might be like, cool, I got the night off.
I can just go to a game and hang out.

Speaker 18 The people upstairs are like, well, that's lost revenue revenue for us because if we hadn't been on national TV, we would have been on broadcast TV and we could have made the money.

Speaker 4 I also would like to get paid, so I'm pretty happy that he'd have fewer national TV games.

Speaker 18 There you go. Keep Jeremy employed.

Speaker 17 That's an interest.

Speaker 23 I like it.

Speaker 11 I feel like Greg's topic got us off on a good start.

Speaker 19 I like it.

Speaker 18 I'm going to be honest. I like it.

Speaker 18 Look, the way you made it seem when you walked in here, because this is to set the scene, he waltzes in here and then he just yells,

Speaker 19 Dolphins 2-0, Marlins, RIP.

Speaker 18 And I was like, oh, in my mind, I was like, Greg, those are kind of like.

Speaker 8 I mean, he had those, and that's.

Speaker 9 This is a running thing.

Speaker 12 This isn't one week.

Speaker 15 Like, this is every week in a running component.

Speaker 18 Chris, you're totally in the wrong. He had some cool-ass topics on there, man.
I wrote some of them down. We're going to get to them at the Robot Olympics.

Speaker 15 Robot Olympics is definitely weight limit. I'm wearing that.

Speaker 18 Look, man, it's like, man, this is standard Levitard show.

Speaker 8 Probably offensive, the weight limit thing, but we'll get there.

Speaker 15 Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 18 Oh, that's that standard Levitar show.

Speaker 16 Kid's fat now. He also can't play Little League.

Speaker 23 Kind of sucks.

Speaker 18 There's a kid in Little League who looks just like you. I don't know if you saw this.
What, really?

Speaker 15 Like the series now?

Speaker 18 Yeah, someone posted this on Twitter.

Speaker 9 He looks like... Oh, so he's like an adult? That's why I have a beard on it.

Speaker 18 But he's got like platinum blonde hair.

Speaker 18 But it's not like dyed. It's like, you know, those kids that have like Targaryen hair.

Speaker 16 I used to have a great head of hair.

Speaker 20 Yeah. I did.

Speaker 18 What color?

Speaker 15 Brown. Light brown.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 17 I want to see a picture of you when you're in there.

Speaker 16 I will send one to television.

Speaker 18 Yes. No, we got that.

Speaker 3 Was it like long or you had like a buzz?

Speaker 16 No, no. I had a good full head of hair.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah. All right, let me send one to you.
And what happened? Like, why do you think that? What happened?

Speaker 3 I didn't mean it like

Speaker 3 I didn't mean it like that, but like, why do you look terrible now?

Speaker 17 Respectfully.

Speaker 19 That's some bullshit.

Speaker 15 He said respectfully. He said, oh, okay.
Anyway, you know what I mean? I asked as a question.

Speaker 22 There's a question mark at the end.

Speaker 16 It's not bullshit then because you said respectfully.

Speaker 17 Yeah, it was respectfully put as well.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it left the door open.

Speaker 15 I didn't say you look like shit.

Speaker 16 Exactly. No, you just said, why do you look like that now?

Speaker 15 Yeah, it was a question. I took it on.
He said, why do you look terrible now?

Speaker 3 I miss that.

Speaker 15 I don't know if that's on me.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

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Speaker 30 Don Libertard.

Speaker 9 Doesn't matter anywhere.

Speaker 7 We could do it in Buffalo or Baltimore, Eva.

Speaker 15 He said you could do it where? Anywhere. Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 19 No, that's crazy.

Speaker 15 That's crazy. That's crazy.
He said he could do it anywhere. That's crazy, murder.

Speaker 18 Murder, tell him.

Speaker 30 Stugats.

Speaker 21 I had no idea Mean had that in his locker.

Speaker 9 That might be his death. That's crazy.

Speaker 15 I'm not kidding.

Speaker 19 That's crazy, killer. It's two America's dead.

Speaker 15 You don't get it?

Speaker 30 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 18 By the way, Greg had another topic. Greg, these are all heavy Greg topics to start.
And I'm telling you, Chris, I'm not messing around. He sat down and he says to me, why are there left and right

Speaker 18 channels on headphones? And I said, oh, because, you know, sometimes in stereo, they'll send some sounds on this side and some sounds on this side.

Speaker 18 And together, it creates a richer experience than if they were just all coming out from

Speaker 18 each speaker at the same time. To which Greg rebutted, yes, but why does it matter which one's left and which one's right? Right.
And I was like, shh, got me there.

Speaker 17 Why is there an L and an R?

Speaker 16 I think it's because of the way it's supposed to fit on your head.

Speaker 27 There it is.

Speaker 11 I think for like AirPods, they fit in your ears.

Speaker 19 Sure, but what?

Speaker 17 What you're talking about these i don't know why the cans well what is my head lopsided what do i like i i need the big one over here because one ear is bigger than the other what does that mean i mean the head is symmetrical you do have large ears okay i do i have coady ears but the the head is symmetrical as is the headphones i just honestly don't get it we all work in an audio environment and many of us have been doing this for decades like do you any of you guys have a real answer for this well like the head like your head you're it your your side of your head's not flat like if you look at your headphones like they'll they'll like go out one way.

Speaker 3 If you put them on the other way, they don't really bend the other way.

Speaker 18 Wait, if you flip it,

Speaker 18 like, I think if you flip it. I mean, these exactly the same.

Speaker 3 These are not that. But there are some that your head's not.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I think this is all a scam.

Speaker 9 It is a scam.

Speaker 18 It's like the Twix thing. Yeah.
Which one do you like, the left or the right?

Speaker 15 They're different.

Speaker 15 Twix? Yes.

Speaker 3 It's like a whole thing. They have two different buildings, the left building, the right building.

Speaker 9 It looks like MMs. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Green ones.

Speaker 5 The green ones.

Speaker 17 See, they get to charge more for the headphones by embellishing them with the letters L and R.

Speaker 9 That's the whole scam.

Speaker 8 I've never seen headphones like when I'm shopping, like, oh, that one has L and R.

Speaker 15 They all do. That's the good stuff.

Speaker 18 They all do because they're all in on the scam.

Speaker 17 Actually, I don't think they all do now. I have seen, which makes this seem even weirder that some still do L ⁇ R because I have more.

Speaker 17 In fact, the headphones I wear on the Greg Cody Show podcast that you always make fun of because they're so big, those do not have L ⁇ R. I am free to put them on however.

Speaker 9 You know what I think you should do?

Speaker 3 Wear them the wrong way just to prove that there's no difference today.

Speaker 15 It's gonna be really uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 Put the left on one side, the right on the other. And just, I think you take down big headphone today.

Speaker 23 I'm doing it right now.

Speaker 15 Yeah. I'm feeling it right now.
Feels great. Feels great.
Exactly.

Speaker 17 Not only that, I feel empowered.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 Okay, I am bigger than my headphones.

Speaker 18 You sure are. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You decided which way to wear that.

Speaker 9 You're not going to let the headphones be bossy.

Speaker 18 You let Sony know.

Speaker 20 Hey, I'll pick. Zagaki.

Speaker 17 You got that right, Jack.

Speaker 18 So, Mike, the thing that you talked about a lot yesterday, we're like, well, stop,

Speaker 16 don't let the door hit you, whatever.

Speaker 18 Joe Flacco,

Speaker 18 QB1.

Speaker 21 Everyone knew this was coming. Yeah.

Speaker 21 It'll be curious to see. I got one TV on mute that's locked in on first take to see how they make this all about Shador.

Speaker 21 I don't even know where Shador is on this depth chart. He's got an oblique injury, but it was a pretty manufactured talking point.

Speaker 21 And I know the discussion is face of the franchise, the franchise QB when it comes to the bad faith debate show topics that we've had about Dylan Gabriel and

Speaker 5 he never had a shot, really, to

Speaker 21 start week one for the Cleveland Browns. It was essentially a promise they made to Joe Flacco.

Speaker 21 But I think that once Cleveland and their schedule is really front-loaded difficult, once they start struggling, this will be a natural talking point that'll have a lot more merit come the season.

Speaker 21 And that's fine and dandy. I just hope that we're not exhausted by it, but we're guilty.
Look at the traction that our segment had yesterday.

Speaker 21 I will say, Shadur has got an it factor about him. He's from a big family in athletics.

Speaker 21 He's charismatic when he was on the field for Colorado. Hell, when he was on the field for Cleveland in that one week,

Speaker 21 he was an exciting player. So I get the conversation, especially as a recovering former Browns fan.

Speaker 21 I know the allure to the

Speaker 21 next hope at that position. It's very rare to have two rookies that garner that.
And also, I've never known Cleveland to be a team that has turned against a rookie quarterback, but

Speaker 21 they've never had two rookie quarterbacks on the roster at the same time. And it seems as though the fan base is pretty much aligned.

Speaker 21 They are pro lower draft pick in Shadora Sanders, and they're kind of wanting to push Dylan Gabriel out the door. That's just my read on the situation.

Speaker 18 So, Greg, yesterday we went through the Browns' early schedule. I'll read it out to you right now.
Week one, hosting the Bengals, week two at Ravens, week three.

Speaker 18 Their first like five weeks are hosting hosting the Packers, week four at Lions, week five hosting the Vikings, week six at Steelers, week seven hosting the Dolphins, right?

Speaker 18 So that's their first seven weeks. So if I ask you how long before a QB switch happens? So Flacco's the number one for now, but given those first seven weeks, they're probably not going to be good.

Speaker 18 Right. Maybe one in six, maybe.

Speaker 16 I think it could legitimately start 0-5.

Speaker 20 0-5.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I think it's quicker than that. I think it's quicker than than that.

Speaker 17 And meantime, I think it's a good thing for Cleveland and for the league that the anticipation of Shador's debut is really going to build. It's going to be something legit.

Speaker 17 Meantime, Joe Flacco's a pretty damn good safety net. I mean, he's one of the better backups in the league.

Speaker 17 I still call him a backup because he's not going to start after midseason, but he's pretty good. Like, if I have Joe Flacco in Miami, I feel much, much better about the quarterback situation.

Speaker 21 Joe Flacco's got to feel a certain type of way about the narrative around him, as if he didn't just prove the world wrong in that uniform two seasons ago.

Speaker 23 Now he's up there in age.

Speaker 16 I don't know. You think he cares? What does he cares?

Speaker 15 He's written off.

Speaker 21 The guy could barely get chances around the league.

Speaker 17 But that's the fate of a guy that age. That's Andy Dalton.
That's any number of quarterbacks who used to be pretty darn good. Russell Wilson is scrambling to still be a starter in this league.

Speaker 17 If you get to be that age, you really have to prove yourself every year. And Joe Flacco, right now, on some teams, is the great veteran backup.
It just so happens he's on this team.

Speaker 21 The Jets chose to have Tim Boyle on their roster over Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco took that and shoved it up people's asses.
Right.

Speaker 15 Right?

Speaker 21 And I think I get the excitement around Shador, but I would also get, and this is just between the years of a Super Bowl champion that is, again, may I remind you, won the AP comeback player of the year over a dead guy that came back to life.

Speaker 21 Joe Flacco should not be written off as casually as he's being written off.

Speaker 18 Mike Ryan, the number one Joe Flacco defender in the game.

Speaker 16 Yeah, you sound like a Browns fan.

Speaker 1 My dad just defended him too. I mean

Speaker 15 good.

Speaker 5 He is good.

Speaker 15 Joe Flacco's good stuff.

Speaker 7 He's a good backup. I'll give you a good time.

Speaker 15 Chris,

Speaker 18 is he too good to be Tua's backup?

Speaker 8 Like, I'm with him on the, if it's through the backup prism, I'll give you that he's above average, but he sold Joe Flacco more than I was.

Speaker 21 This isn't a Browns thing thing for me. If anything, my Browns fandom, I always hated Joe Flacco because he was a quarterback for the Ravens.

Speaker 23 I hated all Ravens, hated all Steelers.

Speaker 18 And Grabs and Poe, everything.

Speaker 21 I've softened on that stance a little. I still feel like a little poison to the Steelers, but that just may be Aaron Rodgers related.

Speaker 18 That's Jessica Smith.

Speaker 21 At this point, it could be Jess. We'll talk to her about the Steelers a little bit later on.
I think that as I approach 40, it's more like, yeah, come on, old guy.

Speaker 21 It's just rallying around the old guy.

Speaker 15 Inspiring you.

Speaker 9 Yeah, just rallying around the old guy that people are writing off.

Speaker 21 But I still hate Aaron Rodgers and will actively write him off. It's a weird place that I'm in.

Speaker 18 Do you guys have that where if there's an athlete who is your age, you tend to like him a little bit more?

Speaker 15 I got there. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Ah, I got there.

Speaker 2 I'm at that point now.

Speaker 21 He's like,

Speaker 21 Rich Hill.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 21 Dick Mountain, I was all about that.

Speaker 18 Who isn't about Dick Mountain?

Speaker 4 To Mike's point on Flacco, he, in that season that he just had with the Browns, had his only season ever where he's thrown for more than 300 yards per game. He won comeback player of the year.

Speaker 21 And what's crazy about it now, in terms of the length of his career,

Speaker 4 I believe it was eight games. Let me look at that.
It was only five games. It was only five games.
It was eight games last year with Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 But 323 yards per game in those games with this same franchise. And what's crazy about it now, in terms of the span of his career, they open hosting Cincinnati here in 2025.

Speaker 4 He started his career in 2008 with the Ravens hosting Cincinnati to start the season.

Speaker 21 I think he has like a 50-yard run in that game.

Speaker 15 Look it up. Like Joe Flago,

Speaker 21 like a 50-yard run, his first ever start.

Speaker 18 I love the symmetry.

Speaker 18 I started my first game against the Cincinnati Bengals, and now here I am.

Speaker 15 But that's the end of my career.

Speaker 21 There's a lot of consistency around Cleveland.

Speaker 21 I mean, that's usually counterintuitive when you speak about the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 27 There's always changes.

Speaker 9 There is consistency.

Speaker 21 Yeah, they're consistently bad, and it's a revolving door, but Stefanski's offense is still insolved. And

Speaker 21 you've seen it done before by Joe Flacco. So I understand, especially from the fan base, this guy's long in the tooth.
Let's get him out of here. Let's see what we got with the draft picks.

Speaker 21 But Joe Flacco didn't cooperate with that narrative the last time out.

Speaker 17 Well, here's another possibility. Because of that tough opening schedule that you recited,

Speaker 17 they don't want to put Shadur in a situation where he starts 0-5, right? He could start 0-5, and all of a sudden the fans who want to be on his side are like, wow, this guy, he's struggling.

Speaker 17 We want Flacco. You know what I mean? So they're flipping that presumed narrative.

Speaker 18 The Dolphins, is that the first easy game or is that the last hard game? Because the next games are Patriots, Jets,

Speaker 18 and yeah, Patriots and Jets.

Speaker 8 People are just as high on the Patriots as Dolphins. If you're calling the Dolphins a tough game, you got to put the Patriots in there, too.
I think they're pretty equal in terms of expectations.

Speaker 8 They're pretty equal.

Speaker 18 So the Jets, that's the first thing.

Speaker 8 The Jets, I would think people would say, is.

Speaker 18 And by the way, right after the Jets, they got to play the Ravens. That's a man.
This is a crazy. Why do they play bad teams?

Speaker 18 Raiders. Ah, there it is.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 21 Colin Cowherd gave voice to the longstanding theory. Jimmy Sexton, he's Nick Saban's agent.
Nick Saban, Manning's, very close. Arch Manning, number one draft pick, Nick Saban coach.

Speaker 15 Where?

Speaker 23 Cleveland.

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 21 Jimmy Haslam leans on the Sextons, leans on Peyton Manning.

Speaker 23 No.

Speaker 21 Tennessee volunteer, booster.

Speaker 23 He laid it all out.

Speaker 15 That's a lot. He laid it all out.

Speaker 18 As the host of a podcast with the word Illuminati in it, keep your third eye open.

Speaker 21 I mean, Haslam is super close to the Mannings.

Speaker 18 I get it, man, but that's a lot. That's a lot of connecting the dots, man.

Speaker 21 I mean, he said it like, this is a known thing.

Speaker 19 I'm going to tell you right now.

Speaker 15 League circles.

Speaker 9 League circles.

Speaker 18 Well, I love league circles. Do you love league circles?

Speaker 16 I don't know. I could do without league circles.

Speaker 15 Really? Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 16 Well, what's league circle ever done for me?

Speaker 21 That's because you're on the outside of the circle.

Speaker 18 Exactly. If you're inside the circle, you'd love the league circle.

Speaker 15 League circle.

Speaker 23 Amin's in a league circle. I'm in the league circle.

Speaker 18 I'm in the league circle. I know things.

Speaker 22 How many championship rings does Amin have compared to Zaz?

Speaker 18 Well, how many gold medals does Zaz have compared to Amin?

Speaker 21 You

Speaker 21 Same amount.

Speaker 27 Get out of here.

Speaker 9 I don't know.

Speaker 15 Same amount. No.

Speaker 18 Gold medal winning, right?

Speaker 7 Zaz used to be in a league circle.

Speaker 18 Now he's out?

Speaker 21 Now he's outside the league circle.

Speaker 15 He got kicked out.

Speaker 23 But he can be in the battle court.

Speaker 16 Nobody got kicked out.

Speaker 27 Are there league triangles, squares, just circles?

Speaker 23 Just circles.

Speaker 17 In league circles, they say you get kicked out.

Speaker 18 Yeah, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 6 I don't like that.

Speaker 24 I don't like either, Billy.

Speaker 9 I don't know what they're doing here. I don't like it either.

Speaker 26 Mike was right.

Speaker 3 38-yard rushing touchdown.

Speaker 4 The first touchdown of any kind of Joe Flacco's career.

Speaker 26 I just watched it.

Speaker 23 It was a play-action QB boot.

Speaker 4 He runs down the sideline, even like jukes back in to use a wide receiver as a blockout and back out to the end.

Speaker 12 It's like slow motion.

Speaker 15 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 15 I remember where I was.

Speaker 21 Once you see that, you never forget it.

Speaker 11 I got to take this thing for a walk.

Speaker 18 The Browns also play the Bills and the Niners out of

Speaker 18 their schedule. This is someone at the NFL doesn't like Cleveland.

Speaker 21 Jimmy Haslam, Jimmy Sexton, Peyton Manning, Nick Sabin, Arch Manning. Folks, the leaves are turning.
The weather's getting a little chillier.

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