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There's nothing dumber in sports than an NCAA show cause penalty.

I don't even understand.

What does show cause mean?

I don't know what the term, like, I know what the term means.

I don't know why it's worded the way it's.

I don't know what what the term means.

It just means like basically, so he's got a 10-year show cause penalty.

We're talking about Jim Harbaugh.

This is the Michigan punishments have come down from the NCAA.

And basically for 10 years,

like these

penalties will follow him should he ever come back to college football.

Right, but like Sharon Moore got a, I think, a four-year show cause.

Yep.

He's still a coach of Michigan.

Well, it doesn't mean he's fired.

It just means he's got penalties.

What are the penalties?

We'll figure that out, right?

Show and cause.

Yeah.

Show cause.

No, but it's just like,

it's, hey, man, don't ever come back over here again.

And Jim Harvaugh's like counting his money in L.A.

like, all right, cool.

Why would I ever come back?

This is the reason I left.

Yeah, like, I just want to be able to pay my players and do deflate, I mean, Spygate stuff without having to worry about, ooh, the college people are mad.

But why is it called show cause?

Why is it called show?

I'm glad you asked because I never gave a thought either.

It was just always something associated with a coach that you're not supposed to touch with a 10-foot pole.

But apparently, after doing some research, if you want to hire a specific coach that has the show cause penalty attached to them, there's another added layer of bureaucracy when it comes to hiring that coach.

You have to go petition the NCAA and show a reason as to why you should be allowed to hire this coach.

Ah, you have to show a cause.

That's right.

So, again, the dumbest penalty in sports.

And again, why is Sharon Moore still the coach in Michigan if there's a show cause penalty against him right now?

They showed the cause.

And the cause is he's already our coach.

Yeah.

What do you want us to do?

This was all negotiated.

I mean, just, but it's like, why?

You know what it's like?

It's sometimes in schools.

I don't know if they do this anymore.

Like if the star player got into some problems, got some trouble.

And it's like, oh, they're going to suspend him for a game.

It's like, we're announcing we're going to suspend him for a half.

Oh, no.

Think of the children.

Why does college do this?

How is that a penalty?

It's always strange.

Miami had a safety named Amari Carter that would always pick up a penalty in the second half for

a personal foul for targeting.

And he would always be suspended for like the first half of the next game.

Nice.

And then he would do it again.

That's a great way to get out of playing first halves, man.

I mean, you have a incredible Peter Warwick memory for some reason or another.

Didn't Peter Warwick get suspended for a half for shoplifting or was that the full game?

No.

Am I remembering that correctly?

It was more than that.

Like that was something else he got suspended for.

But like when the shoplifting was the shop, which, by the way, it wasn't shoplifting.

It wasn't shoplifting.

It was a coordinated, orchestrated strike against Dillards in Tallahassee.

What it was, was they knew like the cashier or something.

And so they would

like grab stuff.

That's good job.

And then, yeah, exactly.

And then when they run him up, I'll never forget this.

The The total was always $21.40.

And everyone's like, why is it $21.40?

I said, well, because she was charging $20, and then the tax is 7%.

So it comes out to $2,140.

The bill was $412, and you nailed it.

$1,400.

$21.40.

I'm never telling you, he's got Dillard's.

He's got an insane Peter Wart memory.

Zaz, I've said this a million times before.

Look,

I've watched a lot of great college football players, you know, Reggie Bush and Vince Young and all those guys were amazing.

There's no one I've ever seen that was better than Peter Peter Ward.

I know he was expected to be so good, and he had such an average NFL career.

I think he had injuries that basically

pulled back on what he could have been.

I don't think he ever had a thousand-yard season.

No, he didn't.

He didn't.

But in college,

sheesh.

Like,

I can't, I wish I could explain to younger listeners, man,

the inevitability of, and he's a wide receiver.

Like, think about that, right?

He was awesome.

That a wide receiver could be so good, you could throw it anywhere you could throw it to them anywhere and you were going to get a big big gain out of it uh but michigan michigan zaz this is not a this is not a punishment right i i guess the the thing that i took away from it most is

it seems like they're done the ncaa who who is just has no control over anything anymore and they they really let everybody know for the last and final time that they don't have control over anything when they came up with this suspension which i mean there was cheating and they were stealing signs.

And look, stealing signs happen during games.

That's no problem.

That is what it is.

But they were going above and beyond throughout the week, throughout the months, and they were cheating and stealing signs.

And they're on sidelines when they're not allowed to be on sidelines and what have you.

Like, this would be the occasion.

I'm not even talking about taking away their championship.

I hate when they do that, you know.

But you certainly would have expected them to do a postseason ban.

There you go.

So, but that's another one.

Taking away the championship.

That's not a real point.

Come on.

Like, it happened.

Memphis, you didn't go to the Final Four.

And Derek Rose didn't score a single point.

Like,

bro, we went to the games.

We saw it.

It happened.

Everyone enjoyed it.

We celebrated that night.

You can't take that away.

Yeah, I hate when they do that, okay?

Michigan,

Chris Weber, and Dylan Rose, you guys didn't accomplish anything.

So is he absolved from calling the timeout against UNC?

I mean, they're taking that whole run away, right?

I guess we could never bring that up again.

But the thing that stood out to me most was, so apparently they're never going to do postseason bands anymore.

I feel like that's what they just did because part of of the reason was they don't want to, it's weird.

They don't want to punish kids who are on the team right now who had nothing to do with what happened then, except they used to do that and you were never allowed to then transfer back then.

Now you're allowed to transfer.

So like it's backwards.

Back then was when they shouldn't have punished kids who weren't part of the team because they were not allowed to say, all right, then I'm out of here.

Now they should actually punish these teams because kids can enter the portal and just be like, all right, I'm dipping.

I'm out.

So it's so backwards the way they're doing it now.

The NCAA.

And the outsourcing of the NCAA's powers has already begun with Deloitte and the NIL Clearinghouse and the RevShare.

All that started in August.

And I don't know if the NIL Clearinghouse has approved a deal.

A single one.

I think that they're just trying to kick this can down the road before Congress actually has to do this because they know the second that they cap what a kid can make with their very subjective fair market NIL deal, they know it'll be challenged in court and a moratorium would be installed and we'd go right back to the way that things were.

I'm pretty sure they haven't actually approved a deal in the couple of weeks that they've been in charge.

If I ask you guys right now, how long before we get a college football super league?

Well, I mean, the Big Ten is already trying to do this kind of stuff.

How long before it actually happens?

We're like, NCAA, we just don't care about you.

Hey, Alabama, hey, Michigan, hey, like all the big powers.

We're all just going to create our own super league, kind of like what they tried to do in Europe a few years ago.

I think only the consumers in this country have far less power.

They don't want to use their voice in a similar fashion, and their rights usually get trampled.

And by the way, I don't know if the consumers would even care.

Like in England, they care that what do you mean that Arsenal won't be playing Wolverhamptonshire?

Like they, that matters to them.

It matters to the the Arsenal fans.

It matters if you increase the price of a Sodi pop.

Right.

Like, those things matter.

But I'm saying, like,

in this country, if we said, hey, well, Alabama never gets to play Vanderbilt again, other than people who go to Vanderbilt or support Vanderbilt, nobody cares.

Look, who cares?

I just want to see Alabama, Ohio State every week, right?

But over there, like, they care.

The fans of the big clubs.

care.

What do you mean, I don't get to play Montpellier anymore?

Like, that really means something to them.

For sure.

I mean, hundreds of years, and you also have hundreds of years of tradition.

You also have screwy situations in which the supporters own parts of certain clubs or the grounds of certain clubs, and the clubs can't do things without the permission.

Here in America, American consumers have been so beaten down by what capitalism is.

Like, okay, what's the fee now?

All right, cool.

We're adding $47 to a ticket master fee.

They're just so used to not having a voice here that it's never going to to replicate that, which is a shame because Europe during the Super League showed exactly the power of your consumer.

I wish we had that here.

You simply cannot get away with this.

You have to stop.

Imagine if they tried to do,

if football fans were the base for streamers over in Europe.

What we have over here, which is just 17 different streamers, unnounced streamers that don't exist.

It wouldn't be a lot.

I love this.

I feel like this last couple of weeks, consumers found out two things.

How How many platforms I need to watch my NFL games, how many platforms I need to watch my NBA games, and people lost their shit for the first time.

It's like, what?

I need this and that and this and that.

And I'm like, what did y'all think was happening all this time when they're talking about $60 gajillion dollars in these TV deals?

I don't know.

I can't get wrapped up in all of it.

I know Mike is so angry these last couple of weeks.

It's his fault.

Yeah, I guess so.

Like, I can't get, tell me, tell me where, what I need to watch the games, and like, I'm going to make an informed decision if that's what what I want to do.

Yeah, well, I hear you, and what you said there is the issue.

Tell me what I need.

Yeah.

They're not really clearly telling me what I need.

Yeah, Mike feels like he's in the dark.

When they're announcing bundle packs with Fox One and ESPN, things that don't exist, the way that they announced, I thought Fox One and ESPN were supposed to be bundled with Max, and that wasn't, that was announced.

That was a thing.

There was a pricing tier, and then it was ruled to be illegal.

And so then that's not happening.

So then there's a standalone ESPN, and WWE is on there but hey this is a new rebranding of the standalone ESPN and by the way a couple days later there's going to be a bundle with Fox what does that look like we won't tell you just yet so that's what cable providers did

just kind of like all this work just kind of here one space go there flood the zone they're they're flooding the zone with streamers and what ends up happening is you have to pay for cable and the streamers because if you want the full streaming experience you still have to have the cable you gotta have the cable rights to then sign into the streamer.

You can't even effectively cord cut anyway.

I've got the outline for the NBA's where you can watch situations.

That's for this year.

That's starting this year?

Starting this year.

Okay.

So Sundays you can watch on ABC, NBC, or Peacock.

That's after NFL season.

After NFL season, obviously.

Yep.

Because Sundays dominated.

Monday, Peacock.

Tuesday, NBC and Peacock.

Okay.

Wednesday, ESPN.

Thursday, Prime.

Friday, Prime and ESPN.

Saturday, Prime and ABC.

There you go.

So not confusing whatsoever.

Four or five different platforms.

The problem is it used to be like ESPN on

Wednesdays and Fridays, and then Tuesday, Thursday was TNT.

And then after football season, we had ABC for Sundays, and that was that.

Yeah.

Did you see apparently only one time, and I think it might be opening night, only one time before Christmas ESPN's using inside the NBA?

Yeah.

No, that makes sense.

They don't want to blow their watt on a random ass Friday game.

Like, they want it when people are watching.

So they'll do it opening week and then they'll do Christmas.

And then after that, we'll start picking up.

I would assume you also don't want to cannibalize your football slate.

ESPN has a fair amount of football that airs on their streamers and conventional channels.

You want to dedicate your fall programming to football.

If you have inside the NBA, that means less football.

And football brings in the ratings, even the MACSIN.

The MACSIN.

I don't know.

Like, there's a lot of complaining from us.

It sounds like when it comes to all its different channels, this night, this night, this night.

I don't know.

It wasn't that long ago where, you know, you had, it was TNT on Thursday nights and, like, that's all you got.

I mean, now we have options all over the place to watch.

Yeah, I get, I get you.

You are paying a premium for that.

And it is, the sport is in some ways more accessible because there's more of it.

And

in some cases, it's clear where to get it, but it also comes at a price.

To be also honest, and I know, now I'm going to sound like Zaz here, but like, I'm already subscribed to Prime.

I already have Prime.

That's what I'm saying.

That's how it's got.

I saw War of the Worlds.

That's how I saw War of the Worlds, and that's how I got Sox, right?

Like, I'm already on Prime, right?

And then what else is there?

ESPN.

ESPN, we already have that.

NBC Peacock.

I love it.

I have it.

We got Hulu.

Yeah, I've been had Peacock because of how do I watch

the Tard Show.

Right.

And then what else is there?

That's it.

Prime Peacock, anybody.

And so it's like, oh, the people are like, oh, and if you're in, I got to get Paramount Plus.

I already have it, man.

Sounds like people

just want to complain.

Maybe that's it.

Yes.

But it is like, it adds up, though.

I had to get this owned for a month, but then they charge me for a full year.

I don't.

And most of the stuff is, I still have to pay additionally for it because the FIFA Club World Cup was on there.

When does UFC switch to Paramount Plus?

26.

26.

Very close.

I can't wait.

We're right there.

Can't wait to put on Lioness and not figure out.

Exactly right.

Amanda Nunes.

Where is she?

She's back against Kayla Harrison.

Oh my God.

Biggest fight in the women's division.

All right.

So, really quick, can you substantiate something that I saw online that people were kind of crashing out about?

Are there really West Coast games starting at 11 p.m.?

I saw that too.

I just imagined.

I can't believe it.

Me too.

I agreed.

So Tuesday nights, the NBC game

is going to be the late game.

It's going to be the early game is 8 p.m.

Late game is 11 p.m.

What?

And this is.

So this is.

Tuesdays only, you're saying?

Only Tuesdays.

So is that really 11.15?

No, it depends.

Let me see what it depends.

It depends.

Come on.

Now, when an 8 p.m.

start time for the early game, it shouldn't impact the start on the late game.

What happened was back in the day,

on TNT, TNT Thursdays, this was notorious.

You would have the East Coast game, and then the West Coast game could not start.

if the East Coast game was still going in regulation, right?

So if you had, it was, hey, it's a one-point game.

Isn't it still like that today?

no it changed it changed after a while but basically was oh if it's close but like not in overtime then we're gonna stay here and we can hold the start time on the next game for it'll be like to 1052 yeah you know those games would end up starting yep and and

that was especially terrible like for us in phoenix because during the winter we're mountain time so our games our son's games nobody knows what the mountain time is yeah that's so tough for you man you had to wait 40 minutes instead of like four hours like on on the East Coast or West Coast games.

I mean, first of all, I was working those games.

Second of all, that means I get home at like 2 a.m.

as opposed to getting home like 1 or whatever.

So

it's a problem.

Now, I think they're trying to alleviate that problem by giving that three-hour block for game one so that no matter how many overtimes it goes to, it'll never get to the point where we're halting the start of the other game.

The interesting thing,

now here's the thing.

The NBA a couple years ago made this whole push of we're not going to get these crazy late starts anymore.

So you saw like Miami Heat games start at 7 p.m.

And I was like, what?

Well, it's because they want to start the West Coast game early.

They don't want to wait until 10.30.

So they're trying to get a 10 o'clock start.

And so we have all this stuff going on in order to keep the East Coast people here.

The fact that NBC is the only one that has 11 p.m.

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Don Lebatard!

You're getting started on the breakfast flan.

Oh man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning long.

Breakfast flanta, no, no, no.

Stugats!

Have you never heard the breakfast flawn song?

Hit me with it.

Okay, I wish I had some breakfast flanta.

Breakfast flant.

Fanta.

Where can I find a breakfast like that?

This is the Dan Lebatar Show with the Stew Gods.

You know how Dan obsesses over media coverage

and stand-up comedy.

Doesn't he?

I kind of feel like that's beginning to happen with streamers and me and I don't like it I want to nip it but I do have a point of contention for something that Zaz said like you were you guys were very casual like we know what we need we have most of what we need no I don't know what I need they announced something that presently if I want to watch PLEs Xfinity and YouTube TV are not allowed to get the PLEs

the www

live events okay but that deal has not been worked out yet we know what they aspire to but no i I do have those services.

And presently, I'm twisting in the wind because I can't watch what I want to watch.

Mike, let me ask you something.

I'm going to start naming streamers.

You stop me when you say I don't have that one.

No, I have all of them, and I have the cable packaging.

So then, what do you need?

No, he wants to know.

He needs to be able to have to be paying for WWE because his current provider does not, it hasn't been disclosed yet if that is going to be included.

Like, for instance, I have DirecTV stream, and mine is going to be included for this WWE pay-per-views.

Okay.

I'm not included.

I hate that delay.

But here's the thing, Mike.

It's not taking place for other five months.

Like, I get it that two weeks ago the deal was announced.

It'd be really nice if the deal had a little bit more clarity.

I'm with you.

But it's five months away.

There were reports that a newly created PLE will air on ESPN before that, just this morning.

And now that's all rumor and innuendo when it comes to wrestling, but there's just something new every day that confuses me about this.

I think maybe four years from now is when we get Super League to answer your initial question.

No, thanks.

I tried to transition in the middle of that, by the way.

I don't know if anyone caught it when I asked you.

No, we went on a tangent, but I think it's inevitable just because that's where the money is.

And yeah, the Big Ten and SEC have the influence right now.

It's kind of deserved.

But this is the second biggest sport in America.

And it just goes against all the free market capitalism ideals of this country that it's not going to be maximizing and get to a point where I think ultimately the college football playoff will be an employer for a tier that is set for those 40 to 50 programs that are of that level.

I don't know what this means for the northern Illinois of the world.

It probably means a very different looking sport for them, but that's just where this stuff is headed eventually, I think.

We need some sort of imaging for when we talk streaming.

I agree.

Yeah.

What should it sound like?

A river.

There we go.

That makes me want to pee.

Well,

that's a very weak stream.

It is a weak stream.

You got to check that prostate.

Yeah.

Wow, you guys are very judgy with the streams.

A couple of fingers up here.

Let him know everything.

How's your uncle?

I don't like it.

Keep searching.

You guys were right about not reading too much into the practices and whatnot because the preseason game rolled around for the Miami Dolphins and it looked very, very different.

Oh, man.

Dolphins are fixed.

Tom McDaniel got his signature win over the Lions.

Dolphins have no losses this preseason.

Undefeated.

Undefeated.

With a tie.

Nah.

That's what we're talking.

Is that a camel?

No,

that's me at Las Rosas last night.

That's a road trip piss.

How'd you like the updated bathrooms?

Wow, man.

You know what's funny?

I joked with Michael, I'm going to do my own little bar rescue recon.

And whenever bar rescue renovates bars, they're always like, oh, we got you seven.

POS systems.

Oh, we got the Orange Door system.

All these upgrades.

They never go into the bathrooms.

And I've been reading like Yelp reviews of the renovated bars.

They're like, the bathrooms are still as gross as ever, right?

These beautiful, it looks beautiful.

All these LED lights and stuff, gross bathrooms.

Mike and his boys, you know what they did?

They said, let's take care of the facilities.

Let's make sure that people come in here and it's nice and clean and well lit.

And I appreciate multiple urinals.

I hate me a bar with one urinal.

Just one in there.

And it's next to the sink offense.

Next sink.

You weren't planning for a lot of people if you have one urinal in here exactly you got to set the expectations a little higher zigak

some urinals man and splash guards with dividers too

the splash guards splash guards or or private what are the privacy screens what do you call them yeah divider privacy no divider i know exactly what you're saying splash guards no

splasher is a thing inside the the urinal that's so it doesn't shoot back but it's also so it doesn't shoot to the side but that's often operator error too maybe

you got to go sidewalls yeah yeah yeah there are ways you got to have a a little touch on that pass.

Yeah, you know, well, I mean, sometimes there are obstructions that lead to unexpected obstructions that lead to a diverted stream.

I ever had that.

I had that happened to me recently where somebody

got a little on the ground.

It hit the ground.

It was like a visual, like they were peeing, and it like hit the ground.

And like, I saw it hit the ground, and it was so bad that they were like, sorry.

You know, usually it's just like an unspoken thing.

Like, like, all right, we both saw it.

We don't have to comment.

He was, my bad.

Man.

It's on my shoelace now.

Yeah, you threw it away, right?

Yeah.

Sound like it.

It sounds like a yes.

I mean, I'm at an establishment.

What am I going to walk out with one shoe?

Put in the washer.

Honestly.

The washer?

No, that's not in the washer.

No, not the whole shoe.

Just

no part of the lace is going to that washer.

Put on some gloves and take it off.

There you go.

You got to scrub that thing.

Yeah.

Look at the little tub.

Let's squeeze some soap.

Oh, scrub it out.

The dolphins won.

The dolphins won, and Quinn Yures look good, apparently.

Not as bad.

I didn't watch this game the way that I watched the Bears game

and there was mixed feedback on Quinn Ewers' performance from the last game.

This one, everyone seems to be pretty positive about it.

Yeah, he was good.

And I don't see the reason in having Zach Wilson on this team.

I really don't.

Like, we know what Zach Wilson is.

He's been in the league long enough.

He sucks, man.

Get off my team.

Has he been in the league long enough?

I feel like that's debatable.

I'm not with you.

I'm not saying...

This is his fifth year, I think.

He didn't play it all last year.

This is his third team.

Reason.

Yeah.

I'm just saying, you know, he's got a big arm.

He also failed twice at the Jets before they got rid of him.

You know what?

That's another thing you're saying.

He's got a big arm.

Dolphins had a clear touchdown.

Receiver.

I forget which receiver was.

Who the hell can keep track of the names?

Guys are not going to make a team.

But dude had four yards on the defender.

He under-threw it so bad, and it ended up being an incomplete pass.

I thought that's supposed to be his strength that he's got a big arm.

He sucks, man.

I'd much rather, I said it last week.

After Quinn Ewers was 5 or 18 I told you I'd much rather have Quinn Ewers on this team let him develop as a backup than have this Zach Wilson I'm I'm done with seeing him man sucks really rebuttal I don't have a rebuttal to that he's not he knows I'm right yeah no he's absolutely right I mean Quinn Ewers is already QB2 I think in everybody's mind he cannot possibly be behind Zach Wilson on the higher'cause I believe he is he can't he's not gonna head into the season as the number three quarterback with the way that two of them have performed this preseason Zach Wilson 6 million this year Sucks, man.

How does that happen?

That's like the rate for backup quarterback.

No, no, no, I'm just saying Zach Wilson in general.

Like, you were.

It's weird, right?

Like, you were.

Look, I get it.

Maybe you weren't going to be the second best player in your draft class.

No, but it happens all the time, what you're saying.

But yeah, it's always funny to me.

It's like, it's never they miss, like, oh, I thought he was going to be great.

He ended up being okay.

It's always, I thought he was going to be great.

He can't play.

Dog shit.

Like, how is that the gap every single time?

By the way, Zach Wilson is the least of the Dolphins' problems at at the moment.

Right, of course.

They have so many other problems.

Like, Zach Wilson's not make or break for the Dolphins season.

I mean, biggest problem right now is Devon H.

Younger to be ready?

Week number one?

Like, I feel like that's probably.

They said it wasn't severe.

Soft tissue, but not severe.

I don't know.

I mean, he was pretty coy about it at Mike McDaniel.

It's going to be days to weeks.

Well,

exactly.

It's going to be days to weeks.

What does that mean?

Like, anything more than seven, it turns into...

weeks, right?

Days to weeks.

If it's eight days, you're already in weeks, right?

Because it's this week and then then a little bit of next week.

We're already headed to week one install.

Don't want to tip your cards.

That's all that is.

Keamsmanship.

I like the idea that this matters.

I like that they take a break from the preseason.

Like, all right, everyone gets one last vacation and we.

This team, it's more time for trouble, honestly.

Like, you think that off week is going to be spent productively?

Because I have no faith in this team.

I think

Tyreek Hill is just going to stay home and chill.

It seems like they just met each other a week ago.

It's crazy.

I got to tell you.

I got to know each other still.

It's been five years.

What are we doing?

Right, Tyreek Hill told us he finally is starting to understand the offense.

Okay.

On the team of fourth year.

Is that just him trying to say things that he thinks fans will like?

He's missing on that mark, I would say.

I would say on the majority of things that he's saying, the fans aren't buying it.

Like, I'm done with this team.

I don't want to be here anymore.

Whatever he said last year.

That one missed the mark, too.

I'm just saying, do you think, is it possible?

Like, what he says, I'm finally starting to understand the offense.

In his mind to your point yes he thinks he's like oh i got this teeth the fans right where i want i think he thinks he's being a leader now right like like people are thinking like oh cool guys this whole time he's been great and he didn't even understand the offense now that he understands it we're gonna be amazing i think that's what he's trying to project as opposed to actually letting us know i didn't understand the offense for four years not that anyone cares about this but like now when you look back and like i'm not saying this to defend Tua is a Tua is like an elite quarterback in the league.

But now that he's saying this, you look back at like the first two years and you're like, hmm, maybe Tyreek was actually running the wrong routes the entire time when Tua kept missing.

You're like, wow, Tua does not know what he's doing.

So you have to bend it too a little bit here.

I'm saying, like, now he's saying, I didn't really know the playbook.

It's like, oh, well, maybe, maybe we're wrong about that situation.

And we just gave Tyreek Hill the benefit of the doubt because he was the fast guy and he was from the Chiefs.

And Tua was the guy that the year before got benched and had the whole thing with Brian Flores.

But Tua needs to step it up.

Let's be real.

Hey, it's Mike Ryan.

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Don Lebatard.

All right, we got to go back out there.

That was big.

Wake him up.

Uh-oh.

He doesn't want to be bothered anymore.

Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result.

He needs something that happens.

You can see it.

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Can we bother?

Are we bothering you right now?

Turn on your microphone, Greg.

My microphone's on.

Stugats.

Paint the scene.

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This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

I'm really excited because Jackson Dart looks like the real deal.

Oh, you're Giants.

Oh, that's your team?

That's my team, man.

You know, I said being a Giants fan is the most rewarding thing in my life because I know once a decade we're gonna win a super bowl every year every decade of my life they've won a super bowl so i'm like you can be trash the rest of the time just give me one within a decade and we're good you know it's funny because i hear you say that and then i think to myself okay would i rather that where we're likely gonna be shitty for almost every year but once a decade we are gonna win a super bowl or would you rather you know maybe you're able to contend every single year maybe you win multiple super bowls and then i stop myself and i'm i'm like your team meaning me has been shitty every single year for decades now wouldn't it have been nice they've given mix in a couple of super bowl wins they've given you neither i like that no it's funny because i have the perfect i'm a yankees fan and it's like obviously i had that moment in the 90s and early 2000s that was amazing but it's like

You feel kind of that emptiness now like wow That was a long time ago versus the giants I have like once a decade I get to pipe up and speak, talk my shit, and like, uh-huh, and then I'm gonna go back into hiding, and I don't have to worry about anything.

And when people try to stress me about, like, oh, your Giants suck, I'm like, they'll be fine.

And it's uh, even though the NFC East is probably the

division in the NFL with the most prestige, yes, it's been random, like, teams go from the bottom to the top.

I think you're right, and it makes sense because we're talking Northeast.

Well, it's called Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, and Washington.

So that's.

I think famously for several string, uh, for a several-year string,

they had a different division winner.

Oh, it's been longer than that.

Yeah, and it's kind of similar to the AFC South and the NFC South in terms of parody, but we don't think of it that way because you have really prestigious teams in there.

But the Dolphins, if you want to just do like the jealousy of the fandom thing, the Giants have existed in this division that has a fair amount of parody.

The Dolphins, once they finally get Tom Brady out of the equation, Josh Allen strolls in.

Right, the team who went 17 years with no playoffs now runs your damage.

So you never get the, well, at least we have, we're that random division winner.

At least we get the benefits of a home playoff game where we can snipe one of these teams that are better.

The best you guys have ever felt about your team in the last 20 years, you had to stroll into Arrowhead Stadium and it was negative 20 degrees out.

It's a little unfair.

It feels cruel on some level.

The other thing about being a Giants fan is finding out that Daniel Jones is still in the NFL.

That shocked me.

I was like, what?

Might start week one.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm like, oh, he's alive and like competing for a job.

How's this possible?

And then I talked about Anthony Richardson.

I said, is he about to have the same sort of situation as Zach Wilson?

Where it's like, you went from, oh, this guy's going to be amazing to

not just not great.

but not good.

Well, the difference being Zach Wilson had a resume in school.

Like everyone thought Zach Wilson was going to be a good quarterback in the NFL.

Anthony Richardson had like a dozen starts in college.

His entire collegiate career.

You know, it called me crazy.

I knew Zach Wilson wasn't going to work out.

You know, when I knew the Heisman Trophies, like finalists, when they got him up on stage and he like looked at the guy left him like, and he does this cartoonish goal,

that's when I knew that dude will never, ever be good.

Because you can't be in, Like, it's an award show.

First of all, why would you be intimidated by that?

How insecure are you?

Who was the guy next to him?

It was whoever the finalists were for Heisman that year.

Someone could look it up.

But it's, I swear to God, if video can find it, it is the funniest thing ever.

Because like, and the finalist for Heisman, and they all like step up onto the stage, and it's like he's a little shorter than other guys, and he looks to the left and looks to the right, and his eyes get wide, and his ugly.

Is that the draft or the Heisman?

Was that all the time?

I think he might be conflated into it.

Oh, his draft.

Where all the draft first-round guys step up, and then he's there like

visibly smaller than everybody looks around like oh.

Yeah, I remember him being memeable from the draft.

I don't even recall him being in New York for the Heisman final.

It may be.

Maybe I stand corrected.

But either way.

He was conflated too.

It was before he played an NFL second.

It was good scouting on your part though.

Because you saw and you were like, there's fear in those eyes.

Fear and then the gulp and then that's so you could see in his mind like, come on, Zach.

Pep up, you're just as good as these guys.

And he stands up.

He's like, he tries to puff off his chest.

I'm like, get the hell out of here, man.

You're supposed to be a leader in a locker room?

You're supposed to tell people what to do?

You're like, oh, I don't know.

These guys look kind of big, mom.

So he has a big arm, but he's undersized, turnover-prone.

He has a big arm, but

he takes sacks,

and oftentimes the ball ends up in the other team's hand.

So what does Zach Wilson actually bring to the table to earn $6 million

and another opportunity?

Is it the fact that he has starting experience and teams value that?

I'm sure the Dolphins can get out from this contract because he's not a starter.

I don't know what level of guarantees are there, but I understand why.

With a quarterback like Tua, who you all will perpetually have injury concerns with, he's a hit away from his career.

I guess anybody is a hit away from their career ending, but it feels like it's

really close.

Yeah, Tua feels like an innocuous hit may end his career.

I don't want to shout too loud around him.

Yeah.

So are you comfortable with going with Quinn Ewers as your backup quarterback when Quinn Ewers also is undersized?

As opposed to Wilson?

Man, but I'm trying to figure out what he brings to the table.

If it's experience, I'm pretty sure an experienced quarterback is going to get cut around the league that he can bring in.

Where's Tannehill?

Nowhere.

I think he's still waiting to get that starting job on a playoff team.

I remember last year I said, man, Tannehill should go to the Dolphins because the dude is definitely going to get hurt.

They're not going to bring him in here.

We talked about this last week.

The Dolphins are not going to bring in anyone to be a number two quarterback that's a threat to Tua starting.

Like, they are not going to do that.

That's why they've had bad backups.

But Quinn, you were like, this was supposed to be them going and like doing a thing like, oh, Zach Wilson, now we're going to take this seriously.

But they don't want a quarterback controversy.

I love that Billy has them being like, we need a bad quarterback.

Not that they

imagine they're finding, trying to find the best of no, not someone that's too good.

They don't, they, you think that they're

on to something.

I think Billy's right.

He's on to something.

They're not being a terrible way to do that.

Well, that's why we see the results that we've gotten because of the approach that they've been taking.

Let me ask

him, Chris, let me ask him.

Forget about the money.

If there was a way to acquire him, to be your backup, do you think it'd be a good idea for the Dolphins to acquire Kirk Cousins?

Oh, yes.

I'm with you.

And I would say no because of exactly what Billy's talking about.

And I wouldn't worry about Tua's feelings.

I would just be like, if I'm Chris Greer, I want the second best quarterback that I can possibly find in the amount of money I have to spend on a backup.

They could have signed Jameis Winston if they wanted to force it.

For a two-year deal worth the the same as Zach Wilson's one-year deal.

And they didn't do

that, man.

Well, and you know why they don't do that, though?

Because exactly what Billy's talking about, the entire locker room, no matter what team he's on, loves Jameis Winston.

Might it be the media more they're worried about?

Like, we would be talking about Tanna Hill.

If it plays a part, like, I think the locker room would be like

any team that does, I'm sure it happens, but it's really rare.

does stuff because they're worried about what the media are going to say.

Like, unless it's an off-the-field issue,

that doesn't exist.

But that's where that narrative would be bigger.

But, but what Billy's saying is absolutely right, where it's like, you want a guy who's good, but not too good, because we don't want to kind of upset the golden goose and push back.

It also shows, kind of like, I don't know how much they actually believe in Tua, if that's the approach, right?

Because if they actually believed in Tua, they're like, well, we're never going to have to get to this, so it doesn't matter.

We'll have someone, but it doesn't matter.

But with Tua, you know, an injury is definitely a possibility at at some point in the season and if your backup is better than tua then what do you do when you just gave him 50 million dollars a year i think that's the part it's like you should be as from a responsible front office you should be getting a quarterback that can be very like good to very good if your guy's gonna go down knowing that tua is one shot away from falling well back to the original point jameis may be available because jackson dart did look good

he's gonna end up in new orleans again right jameis

new orleans is a mess they need a real quarterback Spencer rappers.

You don't like Tyler Shuck?

No, they're going to go with Tyler Schuck, probably.

They're not going to go with Tyler Schuck.

They've got a tough start to the season, by the way.

First six games, tough.

Shuck and jive.

Mike White on the Bills.

Yeah.

You've been watching Hard Knocks.

I have been watching Hard Knocks.

Son of a bitch.

I was like, oh, man.

And everyone's giving him great confidence.

And I'm like, well, if he's that good, then why the Dolphins let go of him?

Hey, it's Mike Ryan.

Those sprinklers are starting to slowly come up on the football field.

Time that we we have with summer is dwindling.

I'm sure you're already doing that thing where you're going through your photo album, flipping through the photos that you've taken this summer, already reminiscing about the good times that you have.

I know I did.

And in many of the pictures that I went back to reminisce over, I had a beautiful white can of Miller Light in my hand because I love making good times during the summer.

A Miller time.

And it's a good reminder.

We're losing time on this summer.

So why don't you share the moments that you have with a white can of Miller Light like I have, whether it's a long weekend or a full-on vacation.

It is the perfect time to get the the crew back together.

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