Stop Throwing ‘Dos and No Love For the Mercury w/ Ciara & Alex of the Pick Up | ALLEY OOP (Ep 15)

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Speaker 9 Do you love Julie Van Lowe?

Speaker 9 Because that's how you say it

Speaker 13 Sure, Julie Van Lowe is my least favorite. She said wait, hang on, it's Van Lowe.

Speaker 9 Yeah, she said in her country, which is Belgium, it's pronounced the OO is O.

Speaker 9 So it's really Van Lowe, but she just let folk get away with it. Breaking news, you hear it here first.
Kurt Loader.

Speaker 9 I don't know when to start.

Speaker 9 Look at me, I don't know what to do with my hands, nor when to start.

Speaker 9 All I know is this is the Alley Up. Welcome back.
Thank you for joining us. Thank you for locking in.
Welcome the people in and give them y'all introductions, my sister, starting with you, Alex.

Speaker 13 Oh, you're so sweet, Juju. Yes, hi, I'm Alex.
I'm one of the co-founders of Flagrant Magazine.

Speaker 13 Longtime listener, first-time guest of this party.

Speaker 13 So very excited.

Speaker 9 You don't have to lie, Craig. You don't got to lie to kick it, Craig.
You know, you never heard this podcast a day in your life. But soon, it's going to be bigger than Shannon Sharpening.
I promise.

Speaker 13 Watch

Speaker 13 World in the Streets.

Speaker 9 Oh, my little birdie told me a little something, something.

Speaker 13 Okay, let's go.

Speaker 9 My sister, Sierra, welcome to the alleyube. How are you doing today?

Speaker 13 I'm doing so good. I'm so happy to be here.
I'm Sierra. I'm the host of Pickup, which is Flagrant's basketball podcast.

Speaker 13 And I'm excited to be here because Juju is one of our favorite guests to have on the podcast. I think you're either tied or the person who's been on it the most.

Speaker 13 So I'm excited to be here and return the favor.

Speaker 9 My sisters come on here lying. They're ready to lie, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm the best of guests. Lord Jesus.

Speaker 13 Salute to my sister.

Speaker 9 Get you some friends that lie about you and to your face like my friends. You feel me? Kicking it off right now.
Sydney, the kidney, Colson went down.

Speaker 9 Aerie, the prairie, McDonald went down.

Speaker 9 Talk about it, y'all. How disappointing is that for the fever? Who were playing pretty good without Kaylin Clark? You feel me? Starting with you, Sierra.

Speaker 13 Yeah, it sucks. I missed it.

Speaker 13 I don't know what I was doing, but I wasn't watching the game. And all of a sudden, I get a text from Alex.
It's like, do we have any update from Sid? And I was like, are we doing something with her?

Speaker 13 Like, are we hanging out? Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 13 No, that sucks. Courtney Vandersloop posted on her story that I think her and Sidney are the last two people from that 2011 draft class.
And now they both tore their ACLs.

Speaker 13 And she was like, gonna come back stronger. And I was like, I really need you too.

Speaker 13 So thank you for saying that. Honestly.

Speaker 9 Right. It just sucks.
What about you, addicts?

Speaker 13 Well, I felt bad for Sid because it happened the day after her birthday. It was the game where she was wearing her birthday fit and she was like...
feeling herself, looked amazing.

Speaker 13 And it was just, I also didn't see it live, but I was on a call with Ashton and she was like, oh my God. And I was like, no, why? Right.

Speaker 13 And as soon as I saw the video, it was just, you know, one of those ghost things where you just, they fall and you're like, oh, that's bad. That's bad.
No contact injury. Bad, bad.

Speaker 13 yeah right snipers on the roof yeah exactly I think Sid you're right like she's been a great backup to Caitlin she's been great in the locker room and obviously any any team would be lucky to have Sidney Coulson and I hope that she's able to recover and come back because I don't want this to be her last season and this is how she goes out like how devastating so I'm not even thinking that way I'm just assuming she's gonna get better because she's yeah

Speaker 13 uh I don't know she probably actually have like a really short recovery time and come back like even better and maybe taller. Probably taller.
Probably taller for sure.

Speaker 13 You know what?

Speaker 9 I've seen that happen. Ari McDonald as well, dog.
She was playing great for them, dog. Like, she was dropped by or the LA Sparks this year, earlier this year, and came in and was ready.

Speaker 9 She didn't have to get ready because she was already there. And she came in with the stutter steps, the hesitation, the Trayballs lately.
I mean, what a great pickup for them.

Speaker 9 And now she's out the rest of the year with a dang broke bone in her foot. You feel me? Like, is there any words y'all got on that as well?

Speaker 13 Yeah, it just like double. It double sucks.
It sucks for people to be doing well and then get hurt.

Speaker 13 Like, obviously, it sucks when anybody gets hurt, but to be having that kind of like comeback season, especially for players like these two, who it's not like they're, you know, superstars in their prime who have a guaranteed roster spot.

Speaker 13 You know, thinking about how this is like going to set them back, also, just like as players.

Speaker 9 players, yeah, players as well.

Speaker 13 I think it's like just a continuation of the crazy injury year that the NBA had. Like, I'm just like, can everyone stop? Can everyone just stop getting hurt?

Speaker 13 I don't know what happened this year, but it was a bad year for legs.

Speaker 9 Get well soon, Sid.

Speaker 9 You got to know we love you. You're a pioneer.
You're an inspiration for so many people out there, including myself. You're getting your acting on.
You're getting everything happening, man.

Speaker 9 But neither here nor nor there. Moving on,

Speaker 9 my name is Julian, and I like to do this with most of our guests that don't have media responsibilities and can't get in trouble for this. As an Atlanta Dream fan, we own the Phoenix Mercury.

Speaker 9 We are their dads, we are their moms, they can't even speak without us being

Speaker 9 spoken to first. Salute to DB, salute to AT, but we just swept them for the season.

Speaker 9 Didn't want no problems. Belt to butt.
We didn't even have Brittany Ground in last game. Neither here nor there.
Alex,

Speaker 9 who are you? What do you represent? And who do you hate?

Speaker 13 My name is Alex. I represent myself here in this podcast.
And I have to say, this is just by default. As a Portland native, I hate the LA Sparks because I cannot support an LA team.

Speaker 13 Just full stop, full every sport. I can't do it.
Sorry.

Speaker 9 Who's your least favorite player on the Sparks?

Speaker 13 Well, that's the thing. I don't have a least favorite player on the Sparks because I actually like the players on the Sparks.
Like, Sparks. They're some fun players.
I like Lexi a lot. I like Cameron.

Speaker 9 Coward's way out.

Speaker 13 I mean, just pick someone.

Speaker 9 Azaray, Rakia, who don't you like? You don't like somebody.

Speaker 9 Are you a big fan of Julie Aleman?

Speaker 9 Do you love Julie Van Lowe?

Speaker 9 Because that's how you say it.

Speaker 13 Sure, Julie Van Lowe is my least favorite. She said, wait, hang on.
It's Van Lowe?

Speaker 9 Yeah, she said in her country, which is Belgium, it's pronounced the OO is O.

Speaker 9 So it's really Van Lowe, but she just let folk get away with it. Breaking news, you hear it here first.
Kurt Loder.

Speaker 13 Whoa, that, you know, who that's, that's a scoop for girl shams. We should put that out there.
I thought it was Van Loo because

Speaker 13 like Waterloo.

Speaker 9 Right. Yeah, because you're Americanized and the system and the man got his foot on your neck and you don't even really know.

Speaker 13 Yeah, and it hurts. Waterloo from the Ava song where they invented it.

Speaker 13 But yeah.

Speaker 9 Also, too, to throw in there, before you could tell us your favorite and person to hate in the entire WMEA Sierra, Odyssey Sims just signed with the fever breaking news as well.

Speaker 9 So she will, I think, will be a great piece over there. I skipped over that earlier, but salute to

Speaker 9 getting it done. She was a spark, but she must have felt like Alex.
Get me out of here.

Speaker 9 I'm waiting for the fire. Now, Sierra, it's on you.

Speaker 13 I'm Sierra. I represent everybody over six feet tall, and I think this is crazy.
You're going to have to hear me out. I hate the aces.

Speaker 13 I think it's crazy. I think it's, and here's why.
It's so crazy to have that many likable and cool players on your team and have your team vibes be that bad. Asia just,

Speaker 13 it was like, what, 30 and what was the double, double?

Speaker 9 30 and 20, the first player ever.

Speaker 13 Are you out of your mind? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. And still, every time I watch the aces, I'm like, ew.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 13 Yes. It's like the Brooklyn Nets when they had all those guys on them, but they still, the vibes were so bad.
It's like so much talent, but we've talked about this before.

Speaker 13 There's something going on back there.

Speaker 9 Bro, I know what's going on. I know why the vibe's so damn bad.

Speaker 9 Allegedly now, I don't know what's the cause of this, but Becky, does she make all her assistant coaches wear them hoodies under them blazers like that? Or is that the same color and everything, man?

Speaker 9 My body would be down too.

Speaker 13 They're underheated and they are restricted in their motion. Oh, my God.

Speaker 13 They're so overstimulated. They're just on the sidelines, like tactile-y.

Speaker 13 In Vegas, too.

Speaker 13 Exactly. The most overstimulating city in the world.

Speaker 9 Becky, it is 200 degrees outside. Can I not wear my hoodie with blazer combo tonight, ma'am?

Speaker 13 Is that okay with you? They make them now. I was just shopping at a store for people who are older than me, I would like to think.

Speaker 13 And there was one suit jacket where the hoodie was sewn into it, just the front and the back. It wasn't fully in it,

Speaker 13 but it was to look like that. And I was like, wow, there's really a market for this.
There must be. And it feels like it's more tech CEO kind of outfit than like head coach.

Speaker 9 Beck CEO. I mean, I'm here all week, but who was y'all prediction for champion this year? Because the links look like it.
Now,

Speaker 9 I got got a couple things I can sell y'all about the Atlanta Dream

Speaker 9 in about four or five minutes. But who will y'all pick for the championship this year? Because the Lynx, right now, like you said, them adding DJNA, the stud bus looking better than ever.

Speaker 9 Wild Nafisaka gone. Kayla McBride done put the pink in her hair.
And guess what? Not who's there? An extra stud.

Speaker 13 You feel me?

Speaker 9 So who do y'all think? Starting with you, Sierra?

Speaker 13 I mean,

Speaker 13 I think it's going to be the Links.

Speaker 13 I had last season, I was also like, oh, the Lynx could win the championship, but then the Liberty were also very scary, and so I was never like, it's the Lynx for sure.

Speaker 13 This, like, the Liberty have not proven to me that they can beat the Lynx. Obviously, Stewie's hurt, but, like,

Speaker 13 okay, they have so many other players. They shouldn't be getting blown out

Speaker 13 like that if they want me to take them seriously. I think the

Speaker 13 Mercury are fun, and I'm always willing to buy in on the Atlanta Dream because I like them. So I know you like the Mercury, so

Speaker 13 magic word.

Speaker 13 Oh my God.

Speaker 9 I'm going to let you go first, though, Alex. Who do you think will win the chip this year?

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 13 I sort of like watch patterns. So like with the injury thing that I was saying,

Speaker 13 I see the fact that OKC, who won the overall vibes check in the NBA this year, won the championship. That's why I think the Lynx will win because I think that's going to happen for them too.

Speaker 13 They're the best vibes.

Speaker 13 But I could see something weird happening where, like, the Liberties still win and it's annoying. Yeah.
So I could see that happening.

Speaker 9 Look, they go from your favorite team now. They might

Speaker 13 even win. Oh, how annoying.
They were just my favorite team.

Speaker 9 Exactly.

Speaker 13 You know what? Juju, life comes at you fast. Keep up.
Keep up. My favorite

Speaker 13 team starts.

Speaker 9 I didn't stretch before that part,

Speaker 9 but I'm finna keep up.

Speaker 9 But they've been out. They've been without Breonna Stewart, you feel me, for the last, what, couple of games.

Speaker 9 And they've injected Emma Miseman, which I think will prove down the line to be one of the best pickups we've seen thus far. I think that the Liberty have done a great job executively.

Speaker 9 After a championship season, like, they deserve a round of applause. Big Ellie got new dance moves every two hours.

Speaker 9 The Atlanta Dream, this is why the Atlanta Dream are going to win the championship this year. Let's do some more math with the Alex.

Speaker 9 First of all,

Speaker 9 the top teams all year that's been above them has been the Lynx, the Liberty, and some little sun team called the Phoenix Mercury, who nobody likes.

Speaker 9 We dog smack the Mercury. They don't count.
They're not even here anymore. Forget about them.
The Liberty,

Speaker 9 we were up 17 points in the game that could have sent us to the Commissioner Cup. We were up another 16 points in the fourth quarter the other time we played in New York.
We just got

Speaker 9 situation. We can't handle situations correctly, but we supposed to or could have won those two games.
And when they came to Atlanta, we kicked their behinds.

Speaker 9 We smacked the behinds of the Liberty. The Minnesota Lynx, they came to Atlanta.
They won by two two points, a couple points in overtime. They needed everything.

Speaker 9 The power got knocked out, neither here nor there. And we made history.
First team to beat the Minnesota Lynx in their home gym this year,

Speaker 9 even though they lost the Commissioner Cup in the gym, neither here nor there. We kick ass when it comes to it.

Speaker 9 The vinyl.

Speaker 9 Won the you would have never said the vinyl are gonna beat the owls this year in the unrivaled. Would you have Alex?

Speaker 13 No, I would not have.

Speaker 9 Would you have Sierra? No.

Speaker 9 I would not have. The Atlanta dream, I win in the NBA championship, the WNBA championship this year, and I put everything on it.
Back to you, Sierra.

Speaker 9 I don't know where you even have a topic, but just back to you.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 13 I love it.

Speaker 13 I'm in. Yeah, I mean, me too.
And you're right. It kind of is like, if they can step up when it counts, that's really all that matters.

Speaker 13 Like, the rest of the season just gets you there, but but like, that doesn't nothing matters until you can actually play in the games that are important enough. So, I'm with you.

Speaker 13 Also, I'm a huge Alicia Gray fan. So, if the dream won, I would be so

Speaker 13 happy excited for her.

Speaker 9 Yes, sir. Salute to Big Al, man.

Speaker 13 Oh,

Speaker 9 but yeah.

Speaker 9 Moving on, though. So, we all agree, Atlanta Jane Champions.
If you guys were the commissioner of the WNBA,

Speaker 9 salute to Miss Kathy. Oh, my God.
Sometimes and most of the times.

Speaker 13 I'm going to do an upside-down salute.

Speaker 9 How would you handle the dough situation we have right now within the W?

Speaker 9 We're not going to say the first three letters, but the last letters are dough.

Speaker 9 If you were Commissioner Alex, let's go to Alex first. How would you handle the dough situation?

Speaker 13 Oh, I thought you're talking about the other. There we are.
Hello.

Speaker 13 Talking about all the other menu.

Speaker 9 Now, that's going to take a whole bunch of heads to put together.

Speaker 13 Not even right there. No problem.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 13 Let's see. How would I handle it? I would,

Speaker 13 I don't know. I would like to have a press conference where I said that this is like zero tolerance.
You're going to be banned from the arena. If you do this, we're going to arrest you.

Speaker 13 This is like basically sexual harassment. of the players and it's not funny.

Speaker 13 It could like, I mean, I don't want to say it could hurt somebody because if she said that, I would be like, okay, come on. But I think it's harassment.
I think it's sexual harassment.

Speaker 13 And I think it's just like zero tolerance policy. You're fully, you're going to be removed.

Speaker 13 Although I will say, I don't know the people that are buying tickets and doing that are like huge WNBA fans, so I don't know if banning them from the arena is really going to do much, but I think arresting them,

Speaker 13 not a big, you know, prison industrial complex fan over here, but maybe arresting them will deter people from doing it. So I might see something like that.

Speaker 9 I didn't want to interrupt you, but you said like,

Speaker 9 it's going to hurt someone and you're like,

Speaker 9 or whatever. Do you think it's not going to hurt by catching a steaming fastball 90 miles per hour from section CC?

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 13 these are rubber does, right?

Speaker 9 I mean, I have no idea how does work.

Speaker 13 Throwing anything on the court. I mean, weren't um, this has happened in football games too, where people have thrown.
That's why they made like the different beer bottles, right?

Speaker 13 Because people were throwing like Coors Light bottles onto the field.

Speaker 13 So yeah, you're right, Sierra. I mean, it could like escalate if a new one.

Speaker 9 What if it hits somebody in the eye? I don't care if it's just all rubber.

Speaker 13 Totally.

Speaker 9 It hit Sophie in the foot the other day. So it's got traction.
And in Atlanta, when they first threw it, it hit the free throw line during your Valkyrie's like...

Speaker 9 chance to win the game with like under 20 seconds left. That thing hits somebody square between the eyes.

Speaker 13 It's a bummer because like the first time it happened, the novelty and the like randomness of it was like oh, that's funny and then sid was you know Sid was doing her character and then the second it happened again It's like well, okay, you guys fucking you ruined it.

Speaker 9 You're right though, bro. At a certain point if it was funny It ran its course already.
We don't need that shit man. This shit ain't even funny no more, bro.
It's like what is really happening.

Speaker 9 You're really being disrespectful as F

Speaker 9 word right now.

Speaker 9 Because if you really think about it, like, bro, what's the messaging behind that, bro?

Speaker 9 Why you be doing this? I know Tom Brady got, you feel me, threw it in the end zone. I'm a Buffalo Bills fan.
Uh, let's go, Buffalo. It's our season every year, but at the same time,

Speaker 9 these women on the basketball court with no helmet, no pads, just them and the rock. You know what I mean? Them and the mama mentality.
They don't need that flying in with the plate.

Speaker 13 Come on, bruh.

Speaker 9 What is you doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 9 But like I said, just to remind y'all, the Phoenix Mercury ain't shit.

Speaker 13 This is all to say.

Speaker 9 I said all that to say they need to work on somebody over there. Like, I'm talking about, they might not even, boy, P you.
I love Sammy Whitcomb. That's my sister.

Speaker 9 You already know we go back, Sammy Sam. But I don't like your team, man.
And I love all of y'all. I choose not to like the Phoenix Mercury.
They can kiss my ass until infinity.

Speaker 13 Okay. Is Satu playing again? Because she was sitting out, right?

Speaker 9 She was sitting out for a while, but she's been back now. Okay.
She's been on a minutes restriction, but she's been back and she's been kicking a little ass for real.

Speaker 13 Okay. That's good.

Speaker 9 Yeah, the unicorn.

Speaker 13 Exactly.

Speaker 9 Any last words before we get up out of here? Y'all been fancy. I could talk to y'all for three days.
You feel me?

Speaker 13 But

Speaker 9 Miss Rebecca said we got to wrap this shit up because she got bills to pay.

Speaker 13 Oh, that was fair. that's

Speaker 13 fair.

Speaker 9 And I miss Rebecca didn't say that.

Speaker 9 Miss Rebecca is not like that.

Speaker 13 She did not say that.

Speaker 9 But salute to her and Dylan for keeping us together, man. But any last words, y'all, where can we find y'all? What's your Instagram? What's your Twitter?

Speaker 9 Do not turn your Instagram location on, please. There are murderers out there.

Speaker 13 My final words is go into your Instagram settings and make sure they didn't automatically turn on your location. I manage a brand account that has like 160,000 followers.

Speaker 13 Imagine if my location had been turned on.

Speaker 9 Bruh, come on, man.

Speaker 13 And they show up to my apartment.

Speaker 9 Luigi.

Speaker 13 That's so crazy.

Speaker 9 What's your Instagram, though, Sierra? Tell them.

Speaker 13 Definitely follow Flagrant Mag on Instagram and listen to our podcast. It's called Pickup.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 9 That's what about you, Alex.

Speaker 13 I'm on Instagram. I post too much, but I don't need anyone following me there.
Follow Flagrant Mag. Follow the girl Shams, the girl shams on

Speaker 13 Blue Sky and and Twitter. That's basically Sham Shirania for the WNBA.
So if you got any hot tips, slide into our DMs and we'll post it there. You'll know it's the right account because

Speaker 13 it's girl Shams.

Speaker 13 It's Shams, but he has a bow and eyelashes. Oh, yeah.
Oh,

Speaker 9 that's how you can tell.

Speaker 9 Let's see what you got going on.

Speaker 13 It's a little bit of this Pac-Man situation.

Speaker 9 Our 13 listeners are dudes, so stay out of the DM. Just add them.
Mention them from your account so everyone can see.

Speaker 13 I'm not answering any DMs. Okay.

Speaker 9 100 love from me to y'all always and forever i got y'all back if y'all ever need me thank y'all for listening and tuning in to the alley oop another one salute to miss rebecca salute to dylan i see you catch us in the same place next week or two days from now same bad channel lock us in thank y'all for joining

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