Hour 2: Tony's Infamous Head Nod (feat. Adnan Virk)

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Speaker 1 So, Tony, why are you getting pulled over when you're not even driving? It was the most insane thing of all time. Respect to all the boys in blue and ladies in blue and doing a great job, right?

Speaker 1 The issue is. You're good.
I was on the turnpike. Thank you.
Someone had to say it. Someone had to say it.

Speaker 7 Nobody said it. I had to say it.
It's good, though, because Israel's a big supporter of the North Miami Police Department.

Speaker 1 Right, but this was more down south. So,

Speaker 1 not in the same jurisdiction, obviously. It was was actually state troopers, so I don't know where their jurisdiction lands as far as

Speaker 11 the support that we have in the entire state.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're not in blue, right? They're in different blue. They're different browns, right? They're step up.
You're always friendly.

Speaker 1 Not super. So we're driving down.
It's my father-in-law driving the car. Me, and then my nephew in the back seat.
We're going down to pick up some food. We're on the turnpike heading south.

Speaker 1 Love a good father-in-law chat. Yeah, so we're just.
You're in the front seat, just talking life. Three generations.
Exactly right. Just doing our thing, just hanging out.

Speaker 1 Kids watching something in the back. Me and the old man are talking about stocks and bonds and that kind of thing, right? My father-in-law always wants me to buy silver.

Speaker 1 Not gold, huh? Silver. He's a big silver guy.
Yeah, those conversations on a bit of an uptick lately.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we're driving, and I look over to my right, and I see a car

Speaker 1 get kind of close to like the window. And I look over, and it's a state trooper, so I kind of look over and kind of give him a head nod.
Lower the window, thumbs up. You're doing great.

Speaker 1 Didn't even even just kind of

Speaker 1 do it to the, where's my camera? It's that one right here, right? So I look over, then that's it. Just suspicious.
Just a little head nod. A little suspicious.

Speaker 1 Once I pull you over, I mean, all of a sudden, he slows down. You blow a kiss at me?

Speaker 1 All of a sudden, he slows down, hits the lights out of nowhere. So my father's like, what is this about him? Like, I don't know.
I just looked at him. I don't know.
So he pulls up.

Speaker 1 He gets behind us, right?

Speaker 1 Walks into the

Speaker 1 walks up to the front, knocks on the window. My father's like, pull over.
We can't pull over any further.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Literally. So

Speaker 1 he looks in and he's like, license of registration. And my father-in-law's like, yeah, like, we were going into the speed limit.
Like, I don't know what the issue is. Like, what's up?

Speaker 1 He's fighting back. No, just asking because he's like, why'd you pull us over? You'd shut your mouth if you knew what was good for you.

Speaker 11 Did he witness the head nod?

Speaker 1 Did my father-in-law or the cop? Father-in-law. Father-in-law didn't see the head nod.

Speaker 4 So he had no idea what was going on.

Speaker 1 He had no idea what's coming on. Right.
So all of a sudden.

Speaker 8 Now, you wouldn't have given the head nod to anyone but the state trooper. Like, if you make eye contact with the car next to you, you're not giving a head nod.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Unless they're looking at me, then I can actually kind of give a head nod. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you lock eyes, sometimes that happens. You have to just like looking around.

Speaker 1 They catch you looking.

Speaker 1 No, if I lock eyes, I'm mortified. Yeah.
Miata.

Speaker 1 So, so I kind of just give them the head nod, whatever. So state trooper walks up, says license registration.
I get the registration, I hand it to my father-in-law. He gives him the license.

Speaker 1 He goes, no, no, no, sir. His.
Wow. And I look over and I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm like, me?

Speaker 12 Are they even allowed to ask you?

Speaker 1 I'm like, me? He's like, yeah, you weren't wearing your seatbelt.

Speaker 1 Literally wearing my seatbelt. I'm like, I wasn't wearing my seatbelt.

Speaker 1 Sir, I'm wearing my seatbelt. And he goes, you argued with him? Not an argument.

Speaker 1 Just the obvious. I'm wearing my seatbelt.

Speaker 11 He says you're not wearing your seatbelt. You're not wearing your seatbelt, Tony.

Speaker 1 Just leave it alone. You have the ability, I think, in that instance to be like, no, I was.
I'm physically literally wearing it. You're a liar.

Speaker 14 Also, do you need a license to be a passenger?

Speaker 1 No, no, it's insane. So he takes my license, takes the registration of the car that's not mine.
It's my father-in-law's. Like, I don't know what he was doing without me.

Speaker 1 Like, this has not come back to you.

Speaker 1 Took it back to the car. He's there for like three or four minutes.

Speaker 5 Well, and what's the conversation like with your father-in-law?

Speaker 1 And we're like, this is the most insane. Like, am I being punked? Like, is your father-in-law skeptical? Like, did you just put it on? No, he knew that I had it on.

Speaker 8 Did you turn around to your nephew at one point and say, when we give the word, you run?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I told him, watch this. This is life.

Speaker 1 This is real life. Things like this happen.
Cops can be wrong sometimes. So you got to take it.
That's okay. You got to take it.
No, hell no. So.

Speaker 1 So what happened was he brings the thing back around on my side, tells me to lower the window. I lower it.
But you know how sometimes cars, it takes a second for it to kind of like go down.

Speaker 1 So it kind of stays up and then goes down. Drops my ID in there, lets it fall on the floor, and then walks back.
And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 So I told my father-in-law, let's not move just in case this guy tries to pull some funny business. He gets back in the car.
So I think he's doing something radioing back to whomever.

Speaker 1 Did he say anything? They're always radioing. Didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 It was just there on the back of the the computer whatever we got they're not we got a 1494 exactly so i'm like the last thing we need is for us to pull away and then him to stop us again saying i didn't i didn't tell you to leave and then somehow you get to take and then somehow he's like you get out of the car you come with me the purp wasn't wearing a seatbelt

Speaker 1 we got a 187 over here wow you know what that means 187 187 it's dangerous

Speaker 1 murder death kill i love 187 murder death kill so he gets on the speaker you can leave now and then we just pulled up and walked away

Speaker 1 he was embarrassed to walk away. It was insane.
It was insane because I told, I literally, I'm going through the window like this. I'm like, sir, I'm literally wearing the seatbelt.

Speaker 1 Head out the window is a power move. No, no, no, but this is across my father-in-law who's in the middle.
I get what you're saying. Okay.
So the guy's there, and he's like, yeah. And I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm wearing it right now. Right.
And he's like, okay.

Speaker 1 And then just let us go. But it was, have you ever been pulled over, not driving, for something that you did

Speaker 1 do, but he said you didn't do it?

Speaker 1 I've been pulled over before just for speeding, and then somebody in my car didn't have the seatbelt on, so the cop walked up and ended up just giving them a ticket for not having their seatbelt on.

Speaker 1 Tony, what do you think happened there?

Speaker 14 Do you think he went back to the car and then realized, shit, did I see that wrong?

Speaker 1 Did he have his seatbelt on the whole time? Do you think he got pissed off? Damn it. He had to have because it's like the most innocuous thing.
Like, no, no, no, sir, that guy's ID. Let me have it.

Speaker 1 It's like, are you running me?

Speaker 1 Are you running me for like for like a warrant or something? I should have asked him.

Speaker 14 I was like, so if I didn't acknowledge you with a head nod, would I still be getting a ticket here?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like that's the only reason he looked at you. Yeah, would he have stopped me if I didn't give him the head nod?

Speaker 1 Maybe the C was a little low, maybe he didn't see it, but here's the kicker.

Speaker 1 There's a kicker. This is why I know this guy was full of shit.
All right. Are you ready?

Speaker 1 I had this bag on on top of the seat belt. So, not only did I have the seat belt on,

Speaker 1 but I had this thing on. Double-strapped.
Well, how we described this for the audience. This is a seat bag, like a bag across my chest.
That's a fanny.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's a fanny pack.

Speaker 1 It's like a chest fanny pack. It's a fanny pack.
He's trying to call it something different took

Speaker 1 and threw it across. It's a crossbody.
People do this these days. This is not a Tony solo thing.
People will do this. But it's a fanny pack.
It's a crossbody bag.

Speaker 11 Essentially, if you were looking at Tony, you would think he's wearing two seatbelts.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I have two crisscrossing seatbelts.

Speaker 11 No one has more seatbelts than Tony.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And then this guy said, I didn't have any.
And I was like, buddy, what are you doing? Also, he's like, do you have guns in that bag? And I was like, whoa.

Speaker 1 That's what I honestly, I think the head nod, I think he's like,

Speaker 1 something's up with this guy. Let's see what's what and then he's saluting the the cop and then he walked over and he's like i got nothing seat belt don't do it just hey god salute a cop don't

Speaker 1 wouldn't someone who acknowledges a police officer be someone who is not doing anything wrong but i'm telling you he's painting this as just a head nod.

Speaker 1 There was probably something suspicious going on with that look.

Speaker 8 I mean, if you got that heroin under the car seat, you're not giving the head nod to the state.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 You're like looking awkwardly straight. Like, don't look at him.
No, I don't know. I think you do, actually, if you have the heroin, right? Like, really? You got to play.

Speaker 4 You have to act like you don't have the heroin. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I never thought the seat belt violation was so outdated because cars these days are so obnoxious with the sounds that you make.

Speaker 14 One time I was in an Uber and I was out of town somewhere and I thought the dude was deaf because the entire time it's beep beep and I'm like, are you crazy? Like, what has happened?

Speaker 14 You just go and like and drive this way the entire time and it was a 20 minute drive. The beeping the entire time.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 The dude was clearly insane i'm working on the suis right now and dan admitted in revelations this year that he didn't wear a seatbelt in his life until 2002

Speaker 1 That's a little crazy. Because like in the major accident, who was it? Was it Derek Thomas? There was some big in the early 2000s.
Yep. He claims that he never in his life wore a seatbelt until that.

Speaker 5 There was a stretch where, sorry, Mike, there was a stretch where the

Speaker 14 seatbelts would just come on automatically as soon as you close the door.

Speaker 1 I had nothing to do with that. That was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 It's kind of wild for Dan to be like, Princess Dive. Nope, we're not at that.
Jerome Brown.

Speaker 1 That was even her name. Not the typical boy.

Speaker 11 Several accidents before that one.

Speaker 1 Jodi Afayed. Hmm, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Not there yet, though.

Speaker 14 Derek Commons.

Speaker 1 That's the one.

Speaker 10 I get in so much trouble if the state trooper catches the heroin under your car seat.

Speaker 1 And he didn't catch the heroin under the seat, so bad on him. But the point is, I always usually, you know, people in service cars, right?

Speaker 1 You got the cops, you got the firefighters, the ambulance drivers. You got to just give them a little head nod.
Hey, thank you.

Speaker 1 All right, but you got out unscathed got out unscathed, but it was like were you shook like was it one of those wow can't believe that just happened Yeah, I was like how dare he I was wearing two seatbelts, but you weren't scared.

Speaker 1 No, I wasn't scared, but like it was just more of like how do you tell me that I

Speaker 1 didn't do something when I am literally doing the thing that you told me I wasn't doing two Americas. Am I right, Roy?

Speaker 1 Three Americas actually.

Speaker 14 Did father-in-law suddenly have some questions?

Speaker 1 Like, wait a second.

Speaker 14 Why is Tony getting the attention from the police? He's not doing anything.

Speaker 1 I think he probably questioned. A lot of questions being asked.
My nephew, what happened? And I'm like, buddy,

Speaker 1 sometimes cuffs are wrong. And that's okay.
You got to respect them.

Speaker 1 But sometimes they could be wrong. They make a mistake.

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Speaker 4 Mike,

Speaker 9 I brought up yesterday a couple of shows that I'm into.

Speaker 8 on TV right now.

Speaker 9 I'm watching The Bear. I'm finishing The Bear season four.
I love it. I know you've done something.

Speaker 1 Oh, can I ask you a question question on the TV shows that you're watching? Did you finish your Boardwalk Empire rewatch? No, it's not rewatching. Oh, you've never seen it before.

Speaker 1 So did you get to the season two finale?

Speaker 9 I think I'm early in season three, so yeah.

Speaker 1 So you stuck with it?

Speaker 16 Yeah, what was so bad with the season two finale?

Speaker 1 I don't want to ruin it for him. Didn't that where the big thing now was? That's not the thing.
I don't think he saw it. But something big happened at the end of the season?

Speaker 1 Jimmy Donald?

Speaker 4 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 10 He takes out so-and-so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bad news for you. Never recovers from that.
Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 13 I was bummed when he's up.

Speaker 18 I'm like, wow, that's probably my favorite character on the show.

Speaker 1 No, it was everybody's favorite character on the show. It was the only guy with like a redeeming quality.

Speaker 13 Why did they

Speaker 1 do that? The guy with the glasses, though, comes soon. Yeah.
That guy was cool.

Speaker 13 He's going to be.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 7 You're telling me that he's getting killed soon?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no. Not killed.

Speaker 1 Is that guy already there? The guy with like the

Speaker 1 face. Honestly.

Speaker 1 End of season two. End of season two, watching Boardwalk Empire was as bummed as I've ever been about a character.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I didn't expect expect it.

Speaker 1 You know, that, that, that, I was just like, why did they kill him off? This guy, oh, he had such great hair. Mine was Happy Gilmore 2.
My wife.

Speaker 2 You know what I do find interesting about the show is like, some characters are made up and some characters are real.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, the characters who are real,

Speaker 16 is any of what happens in the show real?

Speaker 18 Like, like, based on true story? Yeah, you didn't know.

Speaker 7 Or it's just, hey, let's use the real character.

Speaker 1 We're going to do whatever we want. Creative license a little bit.
You can piece some things together.

Speaker 4 Wow. So I'm sticking with it.

Speaker 8 I mean, I'm early in season three.

Speaker 1 Best of luck to you. I couldn't.
But you're telling me first couple seasons was a good time. You know what? I finished it off.
Good show. Let's talk about this.

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Speaker 13 It doesn't matter what time of day.

Speaker 1 This is what happened to The Walking Dead. Well, a couple of things happened to The Walking Dead.
Walking Dead.

Speaker 5 Walking Dead is the first time I have ever bailed on a show that I once liked.

Speaker 13 I couldn't do it anymore.

Speaker 11 First season was great?

Speaker 16 Of Walking Dead? Yes. First few seasons are great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but great. But then they did the thing that Boardwalk Empire did, which is, you know, they kept pushing it and it took over pop culture when some beloved characters, you know, they bit the dust.

Speaker 1 And then there was that one episode where a lot of characters bit the dust and one character in particular, which is like, whoa, we love this guy too much.

Speaker 1 And that's like the moment in time where people were kind of done with that in terms of being a pop culture. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 And it's just like every episode, it's the same thing. I get it.
They're zombies trying to stay along.

Speaker 1 It was just on too long.

Speaker 14 It clearly had a jump the shark moment. Like Craze Anatomy, dude.
Like, is that show still going on? It's like 20-something years.

Speaker 1 Very bad.

Speaker 14 That show with me, they had one episode where they started singing everything. I'm out.
I immediately stopped watching.

Speaker 2 So, what were you saying? I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Well, I was asking about your re-watching, but I think you were headed down the path of some new shows that are out there, which is Alien Earth.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I brought up how Alien Earth, Sugats.

Speaker 4 That just came out.

Speaker 5 The first two episodes came out.

Speaker 9 It's coming out every single week, and it's part of the Alien Universe.

Speaker 8 If you didn't get the hints, it's called Alien Earth. It'd be stupid if you don't understand.

Speaker 1 But it's right before, you know, the right before Ripley is, is, like, in the universe.

Speaker 7 So this series takes place before the movie Alien.

Speaker 1 I believe two years before Ripley is shot out into space.

Speaker 4 Now, I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 2 I think I'm going to start it tonight.

Speaker 10 My younger son wants to watch it with me. I think we're going to watch the first two episodes tonight.

Speaker 13 But you watched last night.

Speaker 1 I loved it because I loved this franchise.

Speaker 1 One of the greatest sci-fi, really one of the greatest movie franchises ever.

Speaker 13 And I was reinvigorated with it because Alien Romulus, I think, is so good.

Speaker 1 We covered that last year. My favorite movie, favorite.
I'm not saying best, but my favorite movie of last year was Alien Romulus, and it got me right back into this universe.

Speaker 1 And I was so excited for Alien Earth.

Speaker 1 And good cast. I watched the first episode, but now Alien's getting to that part.
And it wasn't really always like this with the Alien.

Speaker 1 You had Xeno Morris and you had Ripley, and you kind of knew what was what.

Speaker 1 But Romulus started tapping into the lore, the Wayland Utani stuff, and now you have this shared universe with the Predator franchise.

Speaker 1 Is that Canon?

Speaker 1 It would, yeah, it would, yeah, because the new Predator.

Speaker 7 You know what Canon is, Israel?

Speaker 14 That's a great question. I do not.
I've been wanting to ask Mike this question a lot. People throw that thing around, and I just use context clues to figure it out.

Speaker 1 So, Alien versus Predator, those two standalone films, not canon. Not a part of the Alien Ert

Speaker 1 universe. Lore.

Speaker 1 But there's.

Speaker 16 Canon means official.

Speaker 1 Right, but

Speaker 1 you have to keep in mind, there is a new Predator movie coming out in which the Predator is a hero for the first time in the world.

Speaker 5 It's on like the Predator's planet, right?

Speaker 1 And he is teamed up. Home Court Advantage.
He's

Speaker 1 teamed up with a synthetic from the Wayland Utani Corporation, which is, of course, the corporation behind all these missions in deep space in the Alien franchise. So I'm in on this.

Speaker 1 I like that Alien now has a lore, but it is a little confusing. And part of it is, look,

Speaker 1 I can't, like,

Speaker 1 it would have been.

Speaker 1 All right, I gave it two and a half out of five. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 For the first episode, I hear episode two is great. I'm in on this.
I'm still going to watch it. I love the artistic direction that they took with it.
It looks like it's in of the time of Alien.

Speaker 1 So, like, all the haircuts still make sense. I'm sure at some point we'll find out why all the buttons are analog that far into the future.

Speaker 1 And we don't have like these super fancy hologram dashes and whatnot. But there's so so much lore now with this alien franchise.

Speaker 7 You know what lore is, Israel?

Speaker 1 Yes, that one I know.

Speaker 14 I do know that one. Do you want to know a couple a show that Tony and I have been watching? We've been hoping

Speaker 1 that I was very clearly in the middle of something.

Speaker 1 My bad, my bad. He asked me a question.
Alien hurts. He asked me what if you know what lore is.
Yeah, just yeah, no, I think we're gonna boomerang it back.

Speaker 1 Kitty Eleson, all right.

Speaker 1 Uh, my wife was asking me too many questions. Oh, that's wow, man.
She does that all the time. And I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 I've never been one to watch shows by myself, but honestly, shut the hell up.

Speaker 1 You can say that to me, too, by the way.

Speaker 2 You can go and rewatch the franchise if you'd like.

Speaker 1 So now I'm just sending IG reels that kind of just encapsulate everything that she's doing.

Speaker 4 She wants you to catch up. But it doesn't.

Speaker 1 And my daughter does the same thing, too, because we're doing a Spider-Man re-watch because I want her to get the payoff of the most recent Spider-Man movie where all the Spider-Men come together and fight all the villains.

Speaker 12 What a moment to tell her to shut the hell up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, because she watched Spider-Man 3, which is one of the worst superhero movies of all time.

Speaker 1 And she, to be fair, it was what I was thinking the first time I saw that movie, which is, where's Venom? She asks that every five minutes. Is that Venom? Yeah, he'll be Venom.

Speaker 1 Where the heck is Venom? I understand, but we don't need to articulate. Just watch.
I'm missing important plot points here. Let's pretend like we're both watching it for the first time.

Speaker 1 That's another thing. It's bad enough when it's something that we've seen before.
I'm getting questions. If I'm watching for the first time, I don't have the answers.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to follow along just like you are.

Speaker 1 And since you won't shut up, I can't find the answers.

Speaker 1 Is that the end?

Speaker 1 Back to you, Izzy.

Speaker 11 But aren't you looking for that spot, though, as a father, where you get to pass something along and explain it to your child?

Speaker 1 I would love to. And I was doing a hell of a lot of explaining.
What's the matter with you?

Speaker 2 I'm like, yes, the core problem with this.

Speaker 1 third sequel is that Venom doesn't show up and then he's massively underwhelming. We don't need to keep covering.

Speaker 8 So underwhelming.

Speaker 1 Back to you, Izzy. Sorry.
Thank you.

Speaker 14 This show that Tony and I have been watching.

Speaker 1 Hard nah. Good show.
Good show. It's gotten better? Well, we didn't watch the first show.
That first episode was a bore.

Speaker 1 Second one, the writers were on their shit.

Speaker 14 They were almost on like, it's almost sunny levels. There was this one part where they were showing the five-star resort that they're at and are just like playing White Lotus music.

Speaker 14 And I'm like, wow, look at that. That's so smart.
I'm like, oh, that's why they're doing it. Nope.

Speaker 19 Cut immediately to Mike White, backup quarterback, who's also the creator of White Lotus.

Speaker 14 I was like, that's good. You guys.

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Everything else is merely a suggestion. Everything else? Everything else.
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Speaker 16 Can I tell you something?

Speaker 1 I don't know, maybe like a month ago, and I decided to watch Pitch Clock.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the Pitch, a two-part baseball segment combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert.
This is the pitch clock.

Speaker 1 The pitch clock. It's back.
Hi, Roberta. Couldn't be more excited to be back with you guys.
We're here in August. Things are really heating up in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 We'll get to Ad Nan Vurke in just a moment as our 2025 MLB expert. Hopefully you are watching this on YouTube, on our YouTube playlist.

Speaker 1 If you are just listening, you can go watch every single one of these episodes on the Levatard Show YouTube page on a specific playlist for the pitch clock. Go watch all of them.

Speaker 1 Taylor, now deliver our game.

Speaker 20 The game I saw, this was inspired by JM Baseball, the John Boy Media Guys. It's categories where it's based around a letter and every correct answer is worth the number of points you guess.

Speaker 20 We'll do three rounds. The highest score at the end of the three rounds wins.
The game's category for all three rounds is going to be Career War, with each of you coming up with five names per round.

Speaker 20 First round will be players that start with a C.

Speaker 20 So come up with five players that names start with a C.

Speaker 1 What are names that start with C?

Speaker 1 I don't know any names that start with C.

Speaker 1 I don't feel good. The thing is, it's just striking upon a first name where I'm like, yeah, that's a first name.
No, that's exactly right. I'm just trying to think of actual names.

Speaker 1 Make this seem seem like this took less time. Two hours later.
All right, I've got five because we have to end this at some point. Got it.
Got five.

Speaker 20 All right, Jeremy, let's reveal your names first. All right.

Speaker 20 Chris, if you have any of the same, just say it. Okay.
And then that'll be easier.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Chris Carpenter. Have it.

Speaker 20 Chris Carpenter's career war that you both will get is 34.2.

Speaker 1 Pretty good one, I think. Carlton Fisk.

Speaker 20 Carlton Fisk, career war, 68.4.

Speaker 1 And that'll be Carl Yostremsky. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 All right, I give up. Don't give up.

Speaker 1 How did I just think of that? You have one there though. Oh, I thought of Carl Everett.
How do I think of Carl Everett and not Carl Yostrevsky?

Speaker 20 Carl Yostremsky is going to be.

Speaker 1 I thought of two Carls, not Yostremsky.

Speaker 20 The top C name in terms of war, 96.4.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, baby.
We could just end this right now. 96.4.

Speaker 20 Two more rounds. There's two more rounds after you have.

Speaker 1 We have on top of this, this one's for you, Taylor, Chuck Knobloch.

Speaker 20 Chuck Knobloch, sneaky,

Speaker 20 sneaky, good career war, 44.6. Wow.

Speaker 1 And then I added this one just simply because I figured he might have compiled over the years. Charlie Huff.

Speaker 20 Charlie Huff's career war is 38.4.

Speaker 1 Yeah, better than Chris Carpenter. Interesting.
Yeah, just because he played a thousand years.

Speaker 20 So, Chris, you had Chris Carpenter. You also had Carl Everett, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Carl Everett.

Speaker 20 Carl Everett's career war.

Speaker 1 24. 20.

Speaker 20 Yep. 20.4.
Yep. Wow.

Speaker 19 Wow, that is really close.

Speaker 1 I'll give you the other Carl. Carl Pavano.

Speaker 20 You're not going to love the Carl Pavano answer. 16.4.
16.4.

Speaker 1 No way!

Speaker 1 No way!

Speaker 20 What was that? No way.

Speaker 1 You didn't look it up.

Speaker 1 That happened for real.

Speaker 1 What in the world? That was after I said. You said 24, but it was 20.4.
What the

Speaker 1 24 for Carl Everett? It was 20.4. What? And that is happening.
Oh, I'm going to keep cooking here. All right, 16.4.
Now this is the new game. Can Chris just hit right on the head?

Speaker 13 What was that?

Speaker 1 All right. I'm going to play this game.

Speaker 3 I feel good about this. Ready?

Speaker 1 All right. Next one.
Carlos Delgado. I think his war is 36.8.
That's too high.

Speaker 20 You're going to be off on this one. 44.4.

Speaker 1 Wow. 44.4?

Speaker 1 I just figured as a first baseman. Yeah.
DH, you wouldn't get as much. That means he was a pretty amazing injury.
Who's the last one? Carlos Correa. Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 Nope. Just not a lot of people.
Not Carlton Fisk or Carly Stremski. Well.

Speaker 20 Carlos Correa, 45.0. He won that one.

Speaker 1 We can move on.

Speaker 1 And now it's time to get to our 2025 Major League Baseball expert, as I presently have a 1-0 lead over Chris in our trivia game. It's Adnan Vurke, our most consistent guest here on the pitch clock.

Speaker 1 He's also a consistent guest on the hockey show, but I know he likes us better.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to deny it. I know he likes us better.
Adnan, it's great to have you here.

Speaker 21 Jeremy, it's great to see you. I'm thrilled to you and Roy for keeping me alive right now in the Metal Arc family.

Speaker 1 MLB drew nearly 1.6 million fans over the weekend to games. That's the most for an August weekend.
in 10 years since 2015. So let's play a game here.
Big deal, not a big deal, Adnan.

Speaker 21 I think it's a big deal, Jeremy. And honestly, it's been a couple of years, and the baseball has been enjoying this resurgence.

Speaker 21 And a part of me says, absolutely, full credit to Commissioner Manfred with regards to the pitch timer. It's absolutely revolutionized the game.
No one's going to complain now. 305, 310.

Speaker 21 No, these games are two and a hook. It's been a really particularly strong year for the sport.
There's a few reasons for that. One of them is that big market clubs are really good.

Speaker 21 It's important to have Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, Cubs, all seriously competitive and really good teams. But you've also got smaller cities who are having strong years.

Speaker 21 The Podgers are second in attendance right now. It's been at a competitive year as well.
In the American League, there's no prehemitive favorite, even in the National League.

Speaker 21 We thought it would be all Dodgers. It hasn't been.
The Brewers have the best record in baseball. That's a great story.
They just packed in 40,000. They've had seven straight sellouts.

Speaker 21 Pat Murphy says the last I've ever heard that crowd. They just had serious flooding in the Milwaukee area.
People still showed up there. So I'm with you, man.

Speaker 21 This is bona fide success as we head into Players Weekend, which is always fun.

Speaker 1 The combination of the pitch clock and also that third wild card has made it so that you have quick games and more teams competing.

Speaker 1 You know, we were just talking before we started recording about the Marlins potential wild card hopes, which we will get into in just a second here. But when we were talking about that, right?

Speaker 1 That series with the Yankees, the reason that you have back-to-back sellouts, yes, there's a ton of the Yankee fans there, but you also have some Marlins fans who were motivated to get out there and see a team who was hot that actually all of a sudden was playing their way back into a playoff conversation, which would never be the case if it was just the one wildcard.

Speaker 1 So, a couple of great moves to keep things competitive, to keep things interesting all across the country throughout this year.

Speaker 1 There's really only five or six teams that, by this point of the year, have nothing to play for, and that's something that's really exciting.

Speaker 1 As hot as the Marlins were, one of the hottest teams over the last six weeks or so has been the Cleveland Guardians. And I looked up the numbers back on July 6th, they were 40 and 48.

Speaker 1 They were 15 and a half games back at Detroit, six and a half back of a wildcard spot. Since then, they're 21 and 8 and are just 6.5 back of Detroit, one game back of a wildcard spot.

Speaker 1 How did they do this?

Speaker 1 And as these two teams are about to play game three of their series that is happening right now that we don't know the results of yet, the Guardians and the Marlins, which is more likely, an AL Central win for the Guardians, who were six and a half back of the Tigers, or a NL wildcard spot for the the Marlins, who were six games back of the Mets.

Speaker 21 Listen, I don't want to

Speaker 1 be honest.

Speaker 21 I don't always sleep with the Fishes here, but I can't see the Marlins making the playouts.

Speaker 21 There's no question about it. Of those two, I would take Cleveland winning.
Jose Ramirez is always a great player. We got that.
The one that has really stood up more than anyone is Kyle Manzardo.

Speaker 21 I looked at his numbers over the stretch. He's hitting like 360.
He's slugging 490 over that stretch. He's been unbelievable.
They always need a Robin to the Batman. That is Jose Ramirez.

Speaker 21 And Manzardo has been that guy for Cleveland. He's been awesome.
Secondly, their bullpen's been amazing. Over the last three games, they have the best bullpen in the American League.

Speaker 21 They've been absolutely lights out. And the third reason, which is the biggest reason, easy schedule.
Going into the all-star break, they have the easiest schedule in all of baseball.

Speaker 21 So I think, honestly, for Cleveland, it's a great story. I don't disparage them.
I'm shocked.

Speaker 21 It's only six nap games back, considering hard back they were, but they've really taken full advantage of feeble competition. And it's a bullpen manzard and, of course, the great Jose Ramirez.

Speaker 20 The wheel has landed on the letter M.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Oh, I am cooking right now, dude. Yeah, I feel like I'm just trying to slow myself down and not, I'm trying not to go too fast.
Don't you be looking over here? I'm not looking. Don't you look at mine?

Speaker 1 Come on, think of old like a legend. I mean, trust me.
Don't worry. I got the one you got, all right? Yeah, I know you did.

Speaker 1 I am going. If I don't win this one, I have the five best M's in the history of baseball.
There's

Speaker 1 a crossed out and then there's a first name. Mike Piazza, I'm not not even gonna say.
Oh, he's on yours? He's on mine. Oh, that's good.
You enjoy that one because I got five better. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 So, oh, so you just crossed out. Yeah, Mike Piazza is just like not good enough for this list.
Wow. How is that even possible? All right.
I guess we'll find out together.

Speaker 20 Jeremy, reveal your

Speaker 1 Mark McGuire.

Speaker 1 What? No, I don't have him, but I'm still very confident.

Speaker 20 Mark Maguire's career war.

Speaker 1 It's not going to be a crazy war.

Speaker 20 62.2. List.
Sorry. You have Piazza, right?

Speaker 1 He doesn't. He crossed it off, but I do.
Piazza wasn't. I have Piazza.
Yes. I have Piazza.

Speaker 20 Mike Piazza's Career War 59.6.

Speaker 1 This is.

Speaker 1 You're dope.

Speaker 20 You love where you're at right now, Chris.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 Mark Grace.

Speaker 1 Mark Grace. Mark Grace.

Speaker 1 Mark Grace is going to make this list.

Speaker 1 I really, I can't wait to know what yours are. I mean,

Speaker 20 Mark Grace's Career War 46.4. I mean,

Speaker 1 cute. He's Carlos Correa.
You'll like this. You'll like this one.
Movon. Oh, dude.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's not a good one.
I am taking your lunch.

Speaker 20 Now I feel better about Chris.

Speaker 1 I am. Does it help? Does it help that I'm taking your sad turkey sandwich? Yeah, my sad turkey sandwich.
Did it help that

Speaker 1 I replaced Mike Cameron with Movon?

Speaker 20 Movon's Career War 27.1.

Speaker 1 Better than I thought. Matt Holiday.

Speaker 20 44.4. All right.

Speaker 1 Let me just rattle off my five names, and I guarantee you you guys won't have to look it up. You'll just just be like, okay, he wins.
I mean, it's fine. All right.

Speaker 1 Mike Schmidt, Mickey Mantle, Miguel Cabrera, Mariana Rivera, and Manny Ramirez. Okay.
Those are all pretty good.

Speaker 20 We're going to go through the scores that Chris Cody gave. All right.

Speaker 1 Mike Schmidt's probably my worst one. No, I bet he's great.
Schmidt or Piazza was like, oh, I was deciding Schmidt's a great one. So

Speaker 20 Mickey Mantle, first off the bat,

Speaker 20 16th all-time in career awards.

Speaker 1 I would say 1600 and like something like that.

Speaker 20 110.3.

Speaker 1 That's crazy considering he had a shortened career.

Speaker 20 Mike Schmidt, 18th all-time on career war.

Speaker 20 106.9.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, and then I had Miguel Cabrera.

Speaker 20 Miguel Cabrera's Career War, 67.2.

Speaker 1 That's honestly surprisingly low. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mariana Rivera and Manny.

Speaker 20 Manny Ramirez's Career War

Speaker 20 69.3

Speaker 20 and then Mario Rivera for a closer kind of ridiculous 56.3.

Speaker 1 Wipe our hands to that one and move on to the third.

Speaker 1 I want to move on now, Adnan, to a conversation that we had, not you and I, but myself and David Sampson coming into the second half of the year, because he predicted ultimately that the World Series would be between the Dodgers and the Red Sox.

Speaker 1 And now here, over the last month, month and a half, the Red Sox have been one of the very best teams in baseball, led by guys like Roman Anthony, who's been a really awesome story.

Speaker 1 But the Dodgers have been kind of mediocre. Which of these two teams in their recent play has your antenna up more? The way the Red Sox are playing well or the way the Dodgers really haven't?

Speaker 21 Well, I think the Red Sox are a genuinely good story, and it's amazing. That Devers trade happens, and I'm thinking to myself, Jeremy, okay, they just traded their best offensive player.

Speaker 21 Like, they're going to be around 500. They'll let the kids play.
It'll be an important transition year. Maybe they'll contend next year, the year after that.
No, No.

Speaker 21 Instead, Roman Anthony blossoms into the star we all think he's going to be, $130 million extension. And their offense is genuinely robust.

Speaker 21 Now, I wouldn't be quite as bullish as Samson as far as a world series prediction. I don't love their starting pitching enough after Garrett Crochet.
Bayo's been pretty good.

Speaker 21 But at the deadline, you trade for Stephen Matts and Dustin May. That's not enough for me come playoff time, but certainly a good story.
And I do think they're going to be a playoff team.

Speaker 21 And right now, they're that first wild card. Huge series, by the way, coming up with the Yankees.
I do think the Dodgers, they're a sleeping giant in some ways, Jeremy, because now Glasnow's back.

Speaker 21 He's a 182 ERA this year. Are they not the team we expected? Sure.
Like, Otati's still great, 41 home runs, OPS over 1,000.

Speaker 21 Freddie Freeman could win a batting title at 305, but Mookie bets OPS down 200 points from where it's been in the past. He has been better lately, had a really good series against the Blue Jays.

Speaker 21 Hopefully, he turns the corner. But to have Mookie at a sub-700 OPS is pretty stunning.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about superstars for a second because it's time for our golden era star of the week.

Speaker 1 And I want to highlight two different guys out in the AL West because these are two really interesting conversations, Adnan.

Speaker 1 First, there's Carlos Correa, who was having an okay season, you know, pretty solid, and now goes back to the Astros and has been lighting the world on fire offensively since returning to Houston.

Speaker 1 You could choose him to highlight, or you could look at former Marlon and seemingly everything else, Nathan Evaldi, who a lot of folks don't realize he had a pretty rough start on Monday night where he gave up five earned runs.

Speaker 1 That ballooned his ERA to 1.71. The guy started 20 games this year, and he has a 1.71 ERA.
It's insane with the Texas Rangers.

Speaker 2 Him and Jacob DeGrom leading that rotation.

Speaker 1 Adman, between Nathan Navalde and Carlos Correa, who do you want to highlight as our star of the week?

Speaker 21 I got to talk both through. They're both phenomenal stories.
You know, Correa is one of my favorite guys to talk to. He's very charismatic.
He's well-spoken.

Speaker 21 He understands analytics, understands the game. I've always rooted for him.
I love those big moments, his flash with the Astros. He goes to the Twins.
The contract just hasn't worked out, right?

Speaker 21 I looked at his batting averages. Around par where normally is that 267.
The fact that he was willing to make the move, though, say, I'll go to third base, no problem.

Speaker 21 Pain is the shortest if I want to go back to Houston. It could not have worked out better.
Hitting 405 in nine games going into Monday Night's game. It's awesome to see him revitalize and rejuvenate.

Speaker 21 Good Carlos Gray is good for the game of baseball. And it just seems so much more comfortable there in Houston and back with the Crawford boxes.
So I wish him nothing but the best.

Speaker 21 But I'm with you on Evaldi. All along, I kept thinking: Scoobel is going to win the Cy Young, and Skeens will win the Cy Young.
And I love Zach Wheeler. He's always the bridesmaid.

Speaker 21 And look at Nathan Evaldi. Big game Nate, 138 ERA going into that start.
Crazy. As you said, gives up five runs, balloons to 171.
It says unbelievable.

Speaker 21 Going into last night's start with six innings shy, qualifying for the ERA title. He's now just one inning shy.
So he'll be in the mix there now. I think he's so underappreciated, Jeremy.

Speaker 21 I remember being at that World Series in 2023. There's a reason why he's big game Nate.
He's always great under pressure. And, you know, he's kind of like the host era mirrors of starting pitchers.

Speaker 21 No one talks about. Evaldi.
This is a two-time Tommy John guy who's having a scintillating season. I'm with you, man.
Big game Nate is awesome.

Speaker 1 It's so cool to see for a guy who has really stepped up in special moments all the time. Another guy who steps up in special moments, that's Ad Nan Vurke.
And he joined us here on the pitch clock.

Speaker 1 But we'll see. It's tied 1-1 right now.
We'll see who wins ultimately between Chris and myself in this game that Taylor put together pretty much just to torture me.

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Speaker 20 The deciding game. R

Speaker 1 boom. Cooking.

Speaker 20 I love the silence.

Speaker 20 They're absolutely dialed in right now.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to make sure that I've gone through all the RNAs. I have four ones I feel really good about.

Speaker 1 There's gotta be like a ledge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think of. That's what I'm trying to think of.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Baby, we got it.

Speaker 1 Five names? Trying to debate right now.

Speaker 1 I feel bad once again. I have six, and I'm trying to get rid of one.

Speaker 1 I have four and a half Hall of Famers.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 All right. And the half is because he did steroids, so he's probably not going to get it.
All right, so you're done? Yeah. Yeah, me too.
All right, I have that same one for sure.

Speaker 20 Okay. So we'll release the chip.

Speaker 1 Don't put the first cup I wrote down.

Speaker 20 This time we'll go one by one. And if you, if Jeremy, you say a name that Chris has, Chris, you could just say, I have it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So at the top of my list, first name, Randy Johnson. Got it.

Speaker 1 Baby, I got it.

Speaker 20 101.1.

Speaker 1 It's Ricky Henderson. Yep, have that too.

Speaker 20 Ricky Henderson's career war, 14th all-time, 111.2.

Speaker 1 All right. So I'll go here.

Speaker 1 Ryan Braun. I have it.
All right.

Speaker 20 You both have Ryan Braun.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 20 Ryan Braun's Career War

Speaker 20 47.2.

Speaker 1 Did your next name wag a finger?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Interesting.
This could be. Is it Kimbe Mutombo?

Speaker 20 I know who he's talking about.

Speaker 1 Rafael Pomero? Yeah, that's mine. No, that's not mine.
Interesting. I feel good about this.
All right, who do you got? I have Roger Clements. Oh,

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 20 So you have Roger Clements?

Speaker 13 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 20 Oh, you have to do it.

Speaker 20 Roger Clements.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you won.

Speaker 1 You won. Roger Clemens has got to be way up there.

Speaker 20 Roger Clements, career war, 139.2.

Speaker 1 No!

Speaker 1 I'm going to go Rafael Palmero. Yeah, that was

Speaker 1 not even close.

Speaker 20 You're not going to hate it. 71.9.
That sucks. Chris Cody, fifth name.

Speaker 1 Roberto Clemente. That's another one I'm going to shoot myself in the foot on.
Roberto.

Speaker 20 Roberto Clemente's career war. 25th all-time.
Yeah. 95.0.
Jeremy, what was your fifth name?

Speaker 1 My last one, R.I.P. Ryan Sandberg.

Speaker 20 Not a bad guess. Yeah.
84th all-time, 68.0.

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