The Big Suey: The Celebrity Couple Everyone's Talking About (feat. Dianna Russini)

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Speaker 7 Stugats, we're bringing out the big guns today. Yep.
We know know the big story

Speaker 7 in the sports world is Taylor Swift is going to be on with her boyfriend. Yep.
And her boyfriend-in-law?

Speaker 3 Is that what we do? A brother-in-law?

Speaker 5 Like, how does that go?

Speaker 2 Future brother-in-law? I don't know. Yeah, like how does that go? Boyfriend's brother.

Speaker 2 So we had to bring out the big guns.

Speaker 3 We started out the show today.

Speaker 8 We broke Stugats out of the box.

Speaker 3 And we are also bringing on Diana Rossini, senior NFL insider for the athletic, host of Scoop City Podcast. Diana,

Speaker 3 how excited are you for Taylor Swift's appearance on the New Heights podcast?

Speaker 2 Is this taking over all of your time?

Speaker 3 Is this consuming your thoughts today?

Speaker 10 I'm very excited to see them together and to dissect every single word and piece of body language to try to figure out whether or not they're going to get engaged today, tomorrow, next week, however.

Speaker 10 I love Taylor Swift. I love Travis Kelsey.
I'm not obsessed with their relationship, though. Like, I don't, I'm not, there are other celebrity couples I feel like I stalk a little bit more.

Speaker 10 Theirs, they just seem great and happy, and they're not very dramatic. So I think it's going to be great, though.
I want to see how Jason

Speaker 10 talks to her. Like, what's their relationship like? Because Travis is one thing, but to me, I feel like Jason's just like this Philly guy now with the family.

Speaker 10 looking at his brother like, is this real life? You know, is this real? Right. So that's, that's what I'm looking for.
But that, well, that this is, congrats to them.

Speaker 10 This is, this is going to be the most listened to, watched podcast after this one today.

Speaker 5 Who are we stalking, by the way? Celebrity couples. Yeah.
Like, who are you stalking?

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's a good one. So I like to see what's going on with Justin Bieber and his wife a lot.

Speaker 10 They're always fighting, but then they write these, then he writes like love songs for her. And then she's making all this money.
Like,

Speaker 10 I like couples like.

Speaker 10 JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassett.
Remember? This is really dating me. I remember as a kid loving watching them, seeing the videos of them like fighting in the park.

Speaker 10 Apparently, I'm not for love. I prefer couples trying to kill each other because that's what I relate to.
Like, we fight a lot in this house.

Speaker 10 So I think those are the type of couples I gravitate towards. The lovey-dovey ones aren't really my style.

Speaker 6 Diana, how do you think things have changed in Justin and Haley's relationship? Because that power dynamic now seems like it's different than it was before, right? Because he was the star.

Speaker 6 She was just Stephen Baldwin's son or daughter for a little bit, but he was like the big catch, and then she has like her cosmetic line or whatever, and then that sells for like a billion dollars.

Speaker 6 So now she's the breadwinner, and he's kind of falling off a little bit.

Speaker 6 He had to sell his catalog, so he made a ton of money, but still seems like she's the one that's kind of like in the power in the relationship now. Do you think that's impacted them?

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's good. I'm 42 with two kids with a great job.
Why do I know so much about this?

Speaker 10 Um,

Speaker 10 Mike, the question for the team here should be, can you guys break down the Bengals defense the way that was just laid out in terms of the relationship between Justin and Haley?

Speaker 10 Because, I mean, you didn't even take a beat. You had no notes.

Speaker 10 You know what I like about their relationship? It's very cat and mouse.

Speaker 10 Like, usually after you get married, the jig is up. It's like, I've seen it all.
We've done it all. I like you sometimes.
I hate you most of the time. There's no chase.

Speaker 10 They seem like they're still chasing one another, which is probably what makes it work.

Speaker 10 But I don't think the money, like I get what you're saying about the power dynamic, because she's a billionaire now because she sold that skincare makeup line. I don't think he cares about the money.

Speaker 10 I think she plays it right. I don't think she's one of these wives.
I see this in football. So this, we can actually connect this.

Speaker 10 I think there's something to.

Speaker 10 the hard to get relationships when your partner is the center of attention at all times. Like they need something to keep their interest.

Speaker 10 And if you're just like another fan to them, I think that's when you get walked all over. So, you know, I'm, my husband does it to me.

Speaker 10 He's so mean to me on purpose because he's like, oh, you know, a couple of guys think you're cute. I don't think you're that cute.

Speaker 2 You look young.

Speaker 10 You know, he always keeps me in check that way.

Speaker 2 And it works out.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you need it. Right.

Speaker 2 Oh, me?

Speaker 10 It's funny. The first, my husband's met a lot of people in football.
And,

Speaker 10 you know, if we have lunch or dinner with a coach or something, I always get the same thing afterwards, which is like, your husband's great, which he is. He's a really kind person.

Speaker 10 But my God, you married an ass and it's perfect for you. Like, he knows how to just be mean to me to control it.
And it drives me nuts.

Speaker 10 But, but obviously, it's the medicine that I take.

Speaker 11 Diana, let's see if you can find a football angle to this one. You mentioned having two kids.

Speaker 11 I want to paint a scenario for you because our host today, Jonathan Zaszlo, has a 16-year-old who last night decided they had this fight with his parents.

Speaker 3 Oh, if this is how you're going to be, get out of here.

Speaker 11 And what did the 16-year-old do? He got out of here. He left and he got in his car.
Zaszlo's body. Probably went to Taco Bell and then he didn't come back until 3 in the morning, Diana.

Speaker 11 That's not shows 1 a.m.

Speaker 11 1 a.m. 1 a.m., which is still, what, four hours away? And Zaszlo, neither Zaszlo or his wife, White Tamara, were sitting on the couch waiting for his son when they got home.

Speaker 11 They were just in bed and just checked the Life 360 when they got up. So I'm just curious how you would have played that scenario if one of your children just decided up and go and take your car.

Speaker 10 They do do that. They're four and two.

Speaker 10 They walk out the front door, right to my right here all the time to tell me that they're leaving.

Speaker 10 And I'm not kidding, Mikey, my old, my four-year-old, will walk to the end of the little path and go, oh my God, there's a ghost and run and run back in.

Speaker 10 They are so, they're like scared of shadows.

Speaker 11 Are you sure it's not a real ghost though? Cause kids can see things.

Speaker 10 I know. I mean, but they talk a bit, those boys talk a big game about wanting to leave here.

Speaker 10 The same two boys who literally need me to wipe them. So they're not built to live out in the wild.
And I don't think his 16-year-old is either. And I think that's the reality.

Speaker 10 I think we all, I was like, weren't you guys like that? I always wanted to run away from my parents. But then when I realized I had no money or food or phone, I was like, okay, I'll stay.

Speaker 11 I didn't know how to cook. Where am I going to go?

Speaker 2 Well, hold on a second.

Speaker 3 Diana, your phone has beeped a few.

Speaker 2 I turned four. Is there a scoop? What's the news?

Speaker 2 Is there news? No, no, no. It's okay.
Is there a news?

Speaker 10 Do you guys remember the Sala thing last year? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Dewey. Yes.

Speaker 10 That was awful.

Speaker 5 Right. What happened here? Anything?

Speaker 2 Break it right here.

Speaker 6 Let us know.

Speaker 10 No, these are just group chats of people.

Speaker 2 Pick up cauliflower for dinner. You got to style it.

Speaker 2 What's your favorite group chat these days?

Speaker 10 What's the group chat conversation?

Speaker 3 Like, what's your favorite chat that you have these days?

Speaker 10 I would say the Scoop City group chat is pretty good because it's sometimes I wish I could take the Scoop City podcast group chat and put that on the show because everyone is just exactly who they are talking about football.

Speaker 10 Like, those are the realest opinions and thoughts and ideas.

Speaker 10 I'd say my other most, my most popular one, the one that goes off the most, is between Mike Silver, Jeff Darlington, and I. That one's hot.

Speaker 10 We like to do this thing, the three of us.

Speaker 11 Jeff Darlington, the golf and tennis guy?

Speaker 10 Dude, right? Who is he now? He went from like Mr. Football to now if there's anything big at the highest level with the richest people, Jeff's on my screen.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he got whiter.

Speaker 10 He is the whitest person I know,

Speaker 10 which is why he fits so perfectly in those environments and he's so good at them.

Speaker 10 And he loves it.

Speaker 10 I text him constantly while he's at these events, like, gosh, I am so bored watching you right now. How are you doing this? And he's like, oh my gosh, I met this while I'm doing this.

Speaker 10 But yeah, we do this thing over our group chat where we like to play PR people, meaning whatever situation is going on in football, sports, world life, Hollywood celebrities of, okay, they made this mistake.

Speaker 10 How would you react to it? And we do it constantly of, you know, let's try to think of something right now.

Speaker 10 Is there what, what, what's out there right now that's getting a lot of attention that you're like, Shador Sanders after the game, confronting Tony Grossi, legendary Tony Grossi.

Speaker 2 Good.

Speaker 10 Good.

Speaker 10 Okay, so usually the way it would go is someone would send the clip and be like, okay, you're doing what next if you're Tony. You're doing next, what next if you're Cleveland.

Speaker 10 I actually think Tony did a good job, right? Tony just came. I think he talked about it, right? Where he just was like, hey, I went up to him and we talked it out.
And

Speaker 10 those situations are so weird when you you have conflict with the player and people can see it because they don't really understand what's going on. And I think Tony tried to paint a picture of it.

Speaker 10 I was just glad that happened because the only thing that was cool, or at least that I thought was cool in Cleveland up until this point, was Mary Kay Cabot at that speech at the Hall of Fame with her absolute zinger to Bill Belichick.

Speaker 10 Did you guys hear that? Yeah.

Speaker 10 I didn't know Mary had that in her. Like that, that was really, did you, didn't you think that was well? Stu, did you hear it?

Speaker 5 I did not hear it. No.

Speaker 10 Okay, so Mary Kitkab is like the veteran beat reporter of the Cleveland Browns, right? So she's very good, very good.

Speaker 10 She's all Cleveland all the time.

Speaker 10 So she's accepting her Hall of Fame award at the Hall of Fame in Canton as I think she was like sportswriter, you know, whatever you get inducted, something I obviously have, will never have because I don't even know what it's called.

Speaker 10 So she was up there just talking about how when she was a young reporter, you know, Bill would call her, Belichick, and, you know, kind of cuss her out and get, go, you know, basically just, he was really hard on her.

Speaker 10 And her response to it was like, you know, I sure hope you talk to the men like this.

Speaker 10 You know, so she says, fast forward a few years later, she, you know, she's a 28-year-old reporter covering the Browns, and she realized that the problem with her and Bill Belichick had nothing to do with the fact that she was a woman.

Speaker 10 It had to do with the fact that he couldn't connect to her because she was 28. She was too old.

Speaker 5 That's very good. By the way, it's the Bill Nunn Award is what you were looking for.

Speaker 10 Thanks. Is that I mean, I know I should know that as a journalist that works at the athletic, which is owned by the New York Times.

Speaker 11 You should know, Diana. Stu looked that up all by himself.
I did.

Speaker 9 Nobody fed him that. I had no idea.

Speaker 10 I figured he would know. So thank you for googling that for me.

Speaker 7 Diana, what's the last time, you know, like Tony Grossi there, what's the last time you've been confronted?

Speaker 7 I mean, obviously, you know, everyone remembers the Aaron Rodgers thing, but Aaron Rodgers didn't actually confront you face to face. Like, when's the last, unless I don't know about it?

Speaker 10 I tried to talk to Aaron at Jets. I asked for some time with him, actually, and he had no interest.
He walked away from me.

Speaker 2 That happens a lot.

Speaker 10 Like, when's the last time I had a conflict with the player and like we had to talk about it? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Debo Samuel, who was

Speaker 10 amazing afterwards.

Speaker 10 I

Speaker 11 that might be the scariest name to do a face-to-face with.

Speaker 2 Debo. Diana.
Debo wants to talk.

Speaker 10 I'm not afraid of confrontation, which I think you guys know that about me. So I'm okay having those.
I've had more with coaches, right?

Speaker 10 Because most of them are paranoid and annoyed if anything gets out.

Speaker 10 You guys remember, I think it was two years ago or a year ago, I was at the, I think I talked about it on the show, where I was at the senior bowl. And at the time, like Vraybo had,

Speaker 10 he, he didn't have a job. He had gotten fired from the Titans.
And I talked to a few people around the league, general managers who are making decisions for head coaches

Speaker 10 about the hiring process, what people look for. And

Speaker 10 I had a few people say that, like, Mike can be very intimidating in these meetings. And he's big.
Like, he's a huge human being. And he's intimidating.
Everything about him is intimidating.

Speaker 10 And so I think the headline the next day, I got aggregated, you know how much we love that, that I called him fat or that I said Mike Vrabel was too big to get a job was like, I think the New York Post ran with it.

Speaker 10 It was terrible. And so he called me and that was not great.
That was, that was a hard one because I didn't, it wasn't my fault, right?

Speaker 10 But I had to say sorry, even though it wasn't like a head coach doesn't want to hear that you were aggregated, right? They're just like,

Speaker 10 figure it out. Don't, don't be so stupid and share stuff like that.
But I, I was trying to make a point of, hey, maybe you don't have a job because you're too big.

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Speaker 10 Daddy says you're doing a live show on the draft. Wick, is it channel 7?

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Speaker 7 Diana, most interesting thing in preseason week number one was what?

Speaker 10 How different the league feels about Shador Sanders' performance compared to the rest of us.

Speaker 5 Funny.

Speaker 10 Chase, my colleague on Scoop City, quarterback 14 years, studies film like a lunatic. He's like an Orlovsky.

Speaker 10 Loves it. Like, just consumes this stuff.
And he was on the show with us in today's episode talking about it. And he just really liked the things that he was doing.

Speaker 10 Yet when I I talk to people around the league, I don't get as much enthusiasm about what they saw from Shador playing the actual position.

Speaker 10 Just things that he still has to get better at, which is fine for a fifth-round pick, a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 10 But I think it may have been heightened a bit just because I think there's a really big group of people that like Shador.

Speaker 10 They want to see him show the world that he deserves to be the starting quarterback in Cleveland, deserves to beat out Joe Flacco. But

Speaker 10 a lot of people shared with me just, you know, he has a good arm. He's got great poise,

Speaker 10 good plays with his legs, but

Speaker 10 just, you know, poor ball security in the pocket, just a couple of those things. So I want to see if this ever levels out.
That's what I want to see on Saturday when they play the Eagles.

Speaker 10 The Browns are playing at the link at one

Speaker 10 to just see if Shador takes this next step or if everyone sees the way I think people that are studying this stuff see it.

Speaker 3 How much of that reaction from people around the league is

Speaker 3 the same guys who passed on them through four rounds, which was everyone, right?

Speaker 2 Just digging in on their initials. Including the Browns, by the way.

Speaker 10 It's funny when I was calling around, I kept that in mind.

Speaker 10 Of course, I checked in with people that I knew were

Speaker 10 in on Shador, we'll call it in, meaning they needed a quarterback. But

Speaker 10 I kept it pretty broad.

Speaker 10 And I asked a lot of people on purpose because I wasn't wasn't sure from watching myself. I beast on social media and the Nike ad, I'm like,

Speaker 10 I guess it was great.

Speaker 10 And then,

Speaker 10 you know,

Speaker 10 I think they have a really interesting situation there in Cleveland. I don't think it's going to be easy waters to navigate

Speaker 10 because there's going to be this pressure to put him out there because he's electric. Because he's got this energy about him.
He's got this following.

Speaker 10 But I don't necessarily believe that always means that that's the best choice. So I think, unless he, if he takes some big step here coming up in this game, then I could see them maybe considering it.

Speaker 10 But for right now, from what I understand and from talking to enough people around the league, I think Shador Sanders stays

Speaker 10 on the depth chart in the spot he's in right now.

Speaker 10 I don't foresee him moving up anywhere.

Speaker 5 Why do you hate JJ McCarthy?

Speaker 10 Oh my God.

Speaker 11 You hate JJ McCarthy?

Speaker 5 What's your problem with JJ?

Speaker 10 So I'm going to Minnesota tonight. I can't wait.
I feel like I'm going to land at the airport and people are going to throw eggs in my face.

Speaker 10 By the way, leave it to me to fight with the nicest fan base in America.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 10 Like, of course. Yes.

Speaker 3 Is that a known thing that Viking fans are the nicest fan base? I didn't know that.

Speaker 7 Oh, my God.

Speaker 10 They're like the minutes. People from Minnesota are unbelievable.
Like, even the staff in Minnesota. Like, you talk about fighting.

Speaker 10 It's impossible to fight with people with the coaching staff and with the PR people there.

Speaker 10 It's like a Minnesota nice thing. Obviously, East Coast people, we're a little bit more direct.
We'll scream in your face. We'll love you and hug you later, but we share how we feel.

Speaker 10 Minnesota just does, I don't, I think they feel the same rage we feel, but they just don't say it.

Speaker 10 But it's part of the reason why I love going to Minnesota is because I'm like, wow. So this is a world where people are kind.

Speaker 10 So yeah, in the offseason, there was, I think I got on their bad side because there was a time where Minnesota was having conversations about bringing in Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 10 And I made the mistake of doing Dan Patrick show.

Speaker 10 Not, that wasn't the mistake. I love Dan.
It was Dan set me up on purpose

Speaker 10 and said, all right, take a guess right now. If you had to guess, Aaron Rodgers will play where.

Speaker 10 This is just a guess. And as a reporter, when you guess, people think that's you saying that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 10 And I like took a beat and I said, Dan, I think that Aaron Rodgers will somehow wind up in Minnesota. That's a report.

Speaker 9 Hater. Why do you hate John Rogers?

Speaker 5 That's a bad job by Dan Patrick, by the way.

Speaker 10 Oh,

Speaker 10 I texted his people. I was like, never again.
No more guessing questions.

Speaker 10 you know, and I

Speaker 10 do really enjoy that show. And he asks questions like you do, Stu, just things that are hard and I'm never going to come out on top, but I enjoy the challenge.

Speaker 10 Because even this show, I will get aggregated from this afterwards, right? It'll be like Rossini hates Minnesota. She thinks Shador Sanders should be cut, like, whatever.

Speaker 10 It'll happen. Send him to me afterwards.
Can't wait. Love, love my job.

Speaker 10 So I think what happened, I think Minnesota Viking fans took that as me going,

Speaker 10 the Vikings are out on JJ. Whereas I was trying to say, look, this team is built to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 This is a young quarterback coming off a significant injury who's essentially in his rookie season now.

Speaker 10 Why not take a shot at Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 11 Sounds like you hate him.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I can't wait to see him because, you know, he sees it. Like, what am I going to say? Like, hi.

Speaker 10 I'm like, I have nothing to apologize for.

Speaker 5 You were doing your job. That's it.

Speaker 2 Diana, it seems as though.

Speaker 10 What if he yelled? What if he just comes up to me? What if this is the conflict? Like, he's just, like,

Speaker 10 I don't know what a man would do to a female. Like, I don't think he's going to, like, swing at me, but what would be funny?

Speaker 2 It's unlikely he'll swing at me.

Speaker 8 It'd be a story if he did.

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely. Unlikely.

Speaker 5 What would be funny

Speaker 12 if he, like, started dancing, like a dance routine? I'm just trying to find something funny that he could do.

Speaker 10 Something just, like, bizarre.

Speaker 2 Diana, it would seem as though the NFL media is more locked into shador than the number one pick usually the number one pick making his debut at that position gets the nfl network treatment uh it's kind of quiet around cameron ward and i know you're calling a camera and you're in on cameron well i i one of my theories there is that uh there was already a cam that played quarterback relatively recently and yes he's not at the part he's not at the point in his career where you can just go cam and everybody knows what you're talking about so for now he's cameron he's got to earn yeah being the universal cam and that has a long way to go for Cameron Ward.

Speaker 2 And he very clearly wants to be called Cameron. So I'm going to try my best to adhere to it.

Speaker 2 Made some nice throws. I know from being down here, knowing how he can change a program and

Speaker 2 the type of leader that he is. And I'm wondering if there's any chatter around Titans camp that they may have gotten a really, really good one.
Maybe a rat battle?

Speaker 10 You're so right.

Speaker 10 He owns the title of least talked about quarterback, but that doesn't mean he's not doing great things. I can tell you

Speaker 10 Tennessee is really happy with where he's at in terms of his development and this transition period where

Speaker 10 this is so important for these quarterbacks to get adjusted to the NFL. I was in Denver two weeks ago with Bo Nicks and we were talking about how different it is in year two.

Speaker 10 And it's just so funny. You know, it's just like anything.
When you look, think about when we all got our jobs.

Speaker 10 where we're at now that first year, you thought you knew what you're doing, but you had no idea. Like when you look back after the second year.

Speaker 10 So I think there's a lot of just learning, absorbing and absorbing large amounts.

Speaker 10 I do think they have a great head coach for that. Anytime I've asked players about what his coaching style is, I always hear teacher with Callahan.
Like he's really good with quarterback specifically.

Speaker 10 So I think he's in good hands from that perspective. You know, I just don't, I don't know how the rest of this roster is going to look and shake out.

Speaker 10 But in terms of his development, I've heard nothing but great things. It's just we're not talking about him enough because there's just nothing,

Speaker 10 there's no drama. This goes, this is how we started this conversation.
Like the most interesting relationships, the most interesting things are the ones that have the drama.

Speaker 10 And there's just, there's no drama in Tennessee, which is, I can tell you, they love it this way.

Speaker 5 I think there's so much attention around Shador Sanders, Mike, that there's none being given to Cameron Ward. And I think that kind of helps him out.

Speaker 10 Okay, so let's play the game that I play with Silver and Darlington. How would you help the situation in Tennessee so we start paying attention to camp?

Speaker 2 Oh, I think his play will make people pay attention. No one's going to give them a snowball's chance in hell week one.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, because Shador is not going to start in week one.

Speaker 2 They brought in Flacco. Flacco, it's

Speaker 10 common knowledge that Flacco's going to start. Do you think Shador will start this year?

Speaker 2 I think at some point, yeah, because they're going to be bad and people are going to be clamoring for it. And at that point, you need to see what the kids got.

Speaker 2 I don't know if he plays before Dylan Gabriel, but I think

Speaker 2 historically, we've all seen the jerseys. Chances are all four of them are getting in at one point.
Kenny Pickett's going to get a run, too.

Speaker 2 But I think Cameron Ward's play is going to dictate the narrative, and I think it sets up nicely. People are underestimating them.

Speaker 2 They play in a division that if they make slight augmentations and improvements, they can make a run inside of that division.

Speaker 2 If he has a good performance week one against we all acknowledge Denver's a loaded team this year, has a good defense. If he looks the part, then people are going to talk about him.

Speaker 2 It's a weird place that no one's talking about a Heisman Trophy finalist that was a number one overall draft pick, but I'm sure he's actually reveling in that.

Speaker 10 I still think Tennessee has been ignored because they've lacked identity over the last few years, right? At one point, they were these tough, relentless, smart players.

Speaker 10 Derrick Henry was the star. Obviously, they were in the AOC championship game when Ryan Tannehill was there, but that feels like a decade ago.
It wasn't. It was, what, five, six years ago now.

Speaker 10 But I think this is an opportunity for Tennessee to get back on the map because there's a reason we're not paying attention because we're not really sure what they are.

Speaker 10 And I think that to me has to be the biggest priority for that team is who are the Tennessee Titans of 2025? And it's got to be more than just the fact that we've got the number one overall pick.

Speaker 10 It's just got to be better than that. Especially

Speaker 10 the Houston Texans are going to be good this year. They're going to be very good.
Like CJ Stroud is not going to

Speaker 10 look the way he did last year. Not from what I'm hearing.
I've heard he's had a great camp.

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Speaker 2 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 10 Are you you on the fan right now? Did Mike Greenberg call you yet? Are you ever gonna go back to ESPN? People think it's so weird you're a writer now. All those years on TV? All those years?

Speaker 10 And now you write? Who reads that? Stugats. Why did he take a job at the Atlantic? Mom, I work at the Athletic.
What?

Speaker 2 Are you on YouTube? This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Speaker 11 Diana, I saw something on the TV screens here that was kind of jarring.

Speaker 11 It was Jeff Saturday saying,

Speaker 11 I love what the Jets are doing.

Speaker 11 And so, question number one here, as we look at the tighten-up guy with the flag trying to get that. I just couldn't figure out this flag.

Speaker 12 We tried it four different ways. Still, now it's backwards, dude.

Speaker 2 It's just like, you got this, man. There we go.

Speaker 10 Do you guys see commercials?

Speaker 11 No, no, we just have picture and picture. We're very ADD around here, Kevin.
That's somewhere to go.

Speaker 11 So, A, Diana, what are the Jets doing? Because I only know about the Detroit Lions. And secondly, should Stugats be excited? Because Jeff Saturday said this.

Speaker 10 I think this is camp and everyone's excited because there's been a change there. And I can tell you that is true, right? This is different than the Sala years.

Speaker 10 Just from an accountability standpoint, that's what Aaron Glenn, you know, we just talk about the Titans, about what they are.

Speaker 10 Aaron Glenn is not struggling in the space of what the heck the Jets are going to be.

Speaker 10 They know what that is already. They've set that standard, which I think is a good start for them.
This is going to be just in Fields, though. It's going to come down to that.

Speaker 10 And it's been up and down.

Speaker 10 It's from what I'm hearing, it's, you know, a couple good days and then just not

Speaker 2 great at all.

Speaker 10 And,

Speaker 10 you know, look, I don't think this is going to be some tremendous year for the New York Jets, no way.

Speaker 10 But I do love the fact that this feels like this could be a good building block towards something in the future. You know,

Speaker 10 they have players. Like they, it's not that they lack talent.

Speaker 2 You said love.

Speaker 11 So did Jeff Saturday.

Speaker 8 So apparently people love the Jets this year.

Speaker 5 No, but the problem is every three years, the Jets hire a new head coach and they're headed in the right direction.

Speaker 5 Every three years, the Jets, no one has been headed in the right direction more so over NFL history than the New York Jets. Why?

Speaker 5 Because those are the things you say when you get a new head coach who gave up 45 points as a coordinator for the Lions.

Speaker 10 Well, the only thing I don't love about how Aaron Glenn is doing things is whenever I've covered Detroit, you know, it's always he's such a good hands-on coach. He knows the defense so well.

Speaker 10 His ability to coach is his strength, right? And I'm not looking past that. I'm highlighting it.
But he's not going to be doing that as the head coach from what I understand.

Speaker 10 Yes, he's the head coach, but that special sauce that he has, I don't know if he's going to be able to continue doing that the way we saw him do it in Detroit

Speaker 10 and what's made him so good. Now, in the same regard,

Speaker 10 I have heard optimistic things coming out of Florim Park already, but

Speaker 10 I don't know. Stu, I'm with you.
Right, exactly. It's so hard this time of year to really figure out.

Speaker 5 Justin Fields is their quarterback.

Speaker 2 Well, how do they plan on using Justin Fields?

Speaker 10 You know what's so funny? Stu, I'm so glad you said that because I am a sucker for that too. Sometimes I forget what the reality is, right?

Speaker 10 Because I get excited about pieces or things I'm hearing or a couple good plays I'll watch. And then it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What are we talking about here?

Speaker 10 Like, Joe Flacco's the starting quarterback in Cleveland and we think they're going to be good. You know, like

Speaker 10 once you stop for a second and take a breath and go, okay, what is the realistic situation?

Speaker 2 But Diana, they brought in Justin Fields because he's reputed to be one of those guys that, for whatever reason, because of the sobs that he's been at before, I assume,

Speaker 2 and the situation that he was in with Russell Wilson in the same quarterback room is this guy didn't get a real extended shot at the position.

Speaker 2 But I'm curious as to how they're going to use him because oftentimes when guys that are that mobile, and he is a special kind of athlete, I think he had the second greatest rushing yard total ever at the position.

Speaker 2 Sometimes they try to prove to the doubters that they can be passers. Justin Fields is at the point in his career where he's got to lean into his elite skill set, and that's being a runner.

Speaker 2 Now, that's a dangerous position for a quarterback. You take a pounding, but is he of the mindset that he's going to do what helps his team win?

Speaker 2 Right now, we have very little evidence that's with his arm. We have a lot of evidence that the best shot that they have is with his feet.

Speaker 10 Yep. And it just made me think because you're talking about that whenever you talk about a guy that's going to run a lot, you immediately think, all right, who's going to be, who's the backup? Right.

Speaker 10 Because, you know, we'll run into it. It's Tyrod Taylor, right? Who can do a good job running the offense.
And

Speaker 10 I feel like he's been around for 900 years.

Speaker 10 But yeah,

Speaker 10 of course they're going to tap into that. I'm curious to see what this coaching staff is going to do with him.
I, you know, let's go back to Pittsburgh. There was a very strong

Speaker 10 vibe that Justin was the better quarterback over Russell Wilson in camp.

Speaker 10 I remember being in Pittsburgh and I felt something weird going on there where it felt like half the team wanted Justin, the other half wanted Russ.

Speaker 10 Obviously, Mike Tomlin went with what he wanted, which was Russell.

Speaker 10 But there were things that he was doing that Justin was doing well.

Speaker 10 And not to get too introspective on it, but I wonder how much of that experience has affected him now being the starter, because I know that that was hard for him.

Speaker 10 When he did the work, he was playing very well in Pittsburgh. And

Speaker 10 his journey's been hard. It hasn't exactly been blockbuster as we know.
So I'm hoping to see just like a tough guy that wants to prove to the world that Chicago should have never gave up on him.

Speaker 10 That's what I want to see.

Speaker 5 I'm hoping to see Tyrod Taylor.

Speaker 10 If we're seeing Tyrod Taylor.

Speaker 5 What do you mean? We have a chance.

Speaker 10 Okay, what if...

Speaker 10 All right, let's just say it's October, first week of October. Yeah.

Speaker 10 And it's obvious the quarterback's situation is not good.

Speaker 10 How would you feel about Kirk Cousins coming to New York?

Speaker 5 What's my record?

Speaker 3 Well, if the quarterback situation is not good, you have a shit record.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 5 that's not always the case, not always.

Speaker 8 Remember that time when the quarterback situation was bad and we were a good team?

Speaker 2 Not always the case.

Speaker 2 Just not always the case. Mike Tomlin makes it to the playoffs in that situation.
Yes, gross. Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 5 I mean, what's the matter with you?

Speaker 10 Say sorry. What if Derek Carr comes out of retirement? Would you take that?

Speaker 2 Is that a thing? Wow. No.
Okay. That's faith.
I mean, maybe. But I have heard Kirk Cousins

Speaker 2 recently,

Speaker 2 people are looking at Matthew Safford's health. This is a big contract.
How difficult is that going to be to move?

Speaker 2 Because Kirk Cousins is always the first guy that people go to as if someone needs a quarterback and you just did it, Kirk Cousins is going to be the one that's available.

Speaker 10 He's the most, we'll call it available because we know he doesn't want to be there.

Speaker 2 Right. But it's a huge contract.
How does it get moved? What does it look like?

Speaker 10 It's the New York Jets willing to take on that salary that Arthur Blank in Atlanta does not want to pay. And

Speaker 10 usually when these trades happen, there's usually some type of an agreement. I'll take on 70% of it and, you know, you take 30 and whatever the math is.

Speaker 10 From what I understand, that the teams that have called just to poke around,

Speaker 10 the Falcons are like, come up big and we'll talk. But until a team does that, and desperate teams tend to do that.

Speaker 10 So it would come down to how desperate the Jets would be and what they'd be willing to spend and if they even have the ability to do it in order to make a move like that.

Speaker 10 But let's say you do do that and you make all that happen.

Speaker 10 I mean, do you feel good that Kirk Cousins at this point in his life could give the Jets a chance?

Speaker 5 I would feel good about it. I would think the reason I asked the record is the Jets would only do that if they felt like they had a chance to make it to the playoffs, right?

Speaker 5 Otherwise, why would you do that? There'd be no reason. But if we were flirting with a playoff spot and we got Kirk Cousins halfway through the season, yeah, I'd feel pretty good about my chances.

Speaker 2 And that's also a situation if you're flirting with a playoff spot, that means your quarterback position has been performing pretty well. I mean, it stands to reason, unless you're Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 5 I think you guys are forgetting Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson. There have been some bad quarterbacks who have made it to a Super Bowl and bad quarterbacks who have won a a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Unloaded teams.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Nick Coles.
Right?

Speaker 2 Unloaded teams, though. A team.
Bob Grace. Has it ever happened for a team that people pick to finish bottom of the division?

Speaker 10 Stu,

Speaker 10 it's unbelievable. You really

Speaker 10 can't get a win here with this team. And I know how excited you were when Aaron joined.
Like, I remember being on the show two years ago.

Speaker 10 You weren't grainy. All right, let's not get crazy.

Speaker 5 I was pretty excited. I was.
I mean.

Speaker 10 So was I.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 10 Because the idea of it was perfect, and I thought they did the right thing. I still say they did the right thing back.

Speaker 10 I mean, obviously they did not based on what we saw, but we did not know he was going to get hurt. Right.
The injury just third.

Speaker 5 No, they did the right thing. I mean, we're playing the result, and I love to do that, but they did the right thing at the time.
Aaron Rodgers was available, and he wanted to be a New York jet.

Speaker 10 Yeah. My foot has fallen asleep three times during this interview.
I don't know what that means, but

Speaker 2 stand-up.

Speaker 2 That's a second very clear message that she doesn't want to to be. Why do you keep suggesting like, just shake it out? I've never been asked for a commercial break before.

Speaker 10 You guys think commercials? I just forgot. I forgot I'm not wearing dress pants.
So sorry, I'm wearing just like gym shorts.

Speaker 10 Have you noticed there's like a trend? It could have been worse.

Speaker 6 It could have been worse.

Speaker 10 Yeah, true. There's like a trend right now with men on TV where like I see Dan and Adam.

Speaker 10 It's like cool to just go on TV like

Speaker 10 that. Like why, like, I come on the show a lot I try I always have lipstick on or I brush my hair because I don't know I I'm at work but I feel like the cool thing now is to like be sloppy

Speaker 2 is that the cool thing I've been doing

Speaker 10 the show like this yeah just like that once a week like let's talk ball boys what do we got I like it

Speaker 2 Diana are we

Speaker 10 Diana are we watching the end of Matthew Stafford's career right now yeah yes because of his age I don't think it's because the injury is going to be the. I mean, look, he's been dealing with back.

Speaker 10 It's sorry, it's very hard to be

Speaker 2 sloppy. Someone's just got to get it.

Speaker 11 He's getting the pins and needles now. Where are we on the foot sleep fit?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you gave the foot away for free. Somebody just scream grabbed it.

Speaker 10 I hope you know. Is that an age that? Like, where did this go? Like, why am I, why am I like, is this bad circulation?

Speaker 11 I mean, it depends on how you sit, but yes, it's just largely bad circulation. Eventually, you got to get some blood flow into the.

Speaker 10 I used to get this when I was pregnant. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 whoa wow revelation revelation mark it down wow

Speaker 2 possible

Speaker 11 oh do we need to take a test do we need a commercial deep in thought

Speaker 5 deep in thought huh no okay no maybe you sure maybe

Speaker 11 possibly yeah if you have to think that hard

Speaker 12 i like the feeling when something falls asleep

Speaker 6 She might be pregnant, Chris.

Speaker 2 That's what we're doing right now. Are you?

Speaker 5 She hasn't felt this since she was pregnant and she's feeling it again.

Speaker 2 One last football question before you go. She's doing that.

Speaker 2 If there's a reason for doubt in Detroit, it's because they lost their two coordinators to be head coaches elsewhere.

Speaker 2 It's been theorized that Dan Campbell is exactly where he wants because he likes being underestimated and he's a lot smarter when it comes to these things than people give him credit for.

Speaker 2 What are you doing?

Speaker 11 What are you? You know, I'm the Detroit Lions expert in all of sports. Like, why are we even asking Diana this question?

Speaker 2 Hold on, we have images.

Speaker 11 You cannot see my blue hold on we have imaging

Speaker 2 that's it that's all

Speaker 11 uh thank you diana um although i was kind of bummed out like honolulu blue is not something i have full like the closet full of but i wore this one today and i get into the office and billy over there wears a better shade of blue he's got the ucla blue over there and i'm just like come on man know what we're doing here all right so real quick with our detroit lions minute um to answer your question there Mike, yes, the coordinator thing is a problem.

Speaker 11 This week against the Dolphins actually might be interested because they're testing their toughness against the Dolphins.

Speaker 11 So they're trying to figure out if their issues in camp are real or fake, and they're trying to test it against the Dolphins. Pretty sure they're going to be fake.

Speaker 11 Also, did you know that Jared Goff compared Aiden Hutchinson to Aaron Donald?

Speaker 11 Imagine if you get a full year of Aaron Donald. And Diana, my question to you is, I already subscribed to the Detroit Free Press.
I did not subscribe yet to the Detroit News.

Speaker 11 Their stories seem pretty similar.

Speaker 3 Do you subscribe to every freaking newspaper?

Speaker 11 How do you do this?

Speaker 10 So I work for a newspaper. It's the New York Times.
So I love reading our people. We have the best reporters.
So down,

Speaker 10 you subscribe to the Athletic, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, sure. Duh.
Especially now after the Pablo announcement.

Speaker 10 Guys, you better. Everyone here

Speaker 10 of your subscription. And if if you don't, I'll give you a secret password that you can use.
So yeah, no, it's so funny you say that.

Speaker 10 I'm sure you guys have those things on your phone where you can see like all the times your thing gets your credit card charges. And I have a million different newspapers.

Speaker 10 Like there has to be a better way to do this because I'm the same way you are. I love to consume as much as I can.

Speaker 10 So I'm probably spending thousands of dollars a month on just reading every newspaper.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's not worth it.

Speaker 11 You can go ahead and cancel your two Detroit newspaper subscriptions because I got that whole beat covered for the entire country. All right.

Speaker 10 Why don't we do this? Why don't you and I just start a text exchange and just give me everything I need to know.

Speaker 10 So just save me some time. Plus, I'm busy, so I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 11 Honolulu Blue Chat starting.

Speaker 2 Let's do it. I'm in.

Speaker 3 Great job, Diana. Scoop City Podcast.
Thanks for hanging out with us.

Speaker 10 I will see you guys at the start of the season.

Speaker 2 I look forward to it.

Speaker 5 Good luck with the pregnancy test.

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