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Welcome to the Big Sue,

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Why are you listening to this show?

It's a podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebetard podcast.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys.

I've done it.

And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

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Stugats, we're bringing out the big guns today.

Yep.

We know the big story in the sports world is Taylor Swift is going to be on with her boyfriend.

Yep.

And her boyfriend-in-law?

Is that what we do?

A brother?

Like, how does that go?

Future brother-in-law?

I don't know.

Yeah, like, how does that go?

Boyfriend's brother.

So we had to bring the big guns.

We started out the show today.

We broke Stu Gotz out of the box.

And we are also bringing on Diana Rossini, senior NFL insider for the athletic, host of Scoop City podcast.

Diana,

how excited are you for Taylor Swift's appearance on the New Heights podcast?

Is this taking over all of your time?

Is this consuming your thoughts today?

I'm very excited to see them together and to dissect every single word and piece of body language to try try to figure out whether or not they're going to get engaged today, tomorrow, next week, however.

I love Taylor Swift.

I love Travis Kelsey.

I'm not obsessed with their relationship, though.

Like, I don't, I'm not, there are other celebrity couples I feel like I stalk a little bit more.

Theirs, they just seem great and happy and they're not very dramatic.

So I think it's going to be great, though.

I want to see how Jason.

talks to her.

Like what's their relationship like?

Because Travis is one thing, but to me, I feel like Jason's just like this Philly guy now with the family looking at his brother like, is this real life?

You know, is this real?

Right.

So that's, that's what I'm looking forward.

But that this is congrats to them.

This is this is going to be the most listened to watched podcast after this one today.

Who are we stalking, by the way?

Celebrity couples.

Yeah.

Like, who are you stalking?

Yeah, that's a good one.

So I like to see what's going on with Justin Bieber and his wife a lot because they're always fighting, but then they write these, then he writes like love songs for her.

And then she's making all this money.

Like,

I like couples like

JFK Jr.

and Carolyn Bassett.

Remember, this is really dating me.

I remember as a kid loving watching them, seeing the videos of them like fighting in the park.

Apparently, I'm not for love.

I prefer couples trying to kill each other because that's what I relate to.

Like we fight a lot in this house.

So I think those are the type of couples I gravitate towards.

The lovey-dovey ones aren't really my style.

Dana, how do you think things have changed in Justin and Haley's relationship?

Because that power dynamic now seems like it's different than it was before, right?

Because he was the star.

She was just Stephen Baldwin's son or daughter for a little bit, but he was like the big catch.

And then she has like her cosmetic line or whatever.

And then that sells for like a billion dollars.

So now she's the breadwinner and he's kind of falling off a little bit.

He had to sell his catalog.

So he made a ton of money, but still seems like she's the one that's kind of like in the power in the relationship now.

Do you think that's impacted them?

Yeah, that's good.

I'm 42 with two kids with a great job.

Why do I know so much about this?

The question for the team here should be, can you guys break down the Bengals defense the way that was just laid out in terms of the relationship between Justin and Haley?

Because, I mean, you didn't even take a beat.

You had no notes.

You know what I like about their relationship?

It's very cat and mouse.

Like, usually after you get married, the jig is up.

It's like, I've seen it all.

We've done it all.

I like you sometimes.

I hate you most of the time.

There's no chase.

They seem like they're still chasing one another, which is probably what makes it work.

But I don't think the money, like I get what you're saying about the power dynamic because she's a billionaire now because she sold that skincare makeup line.

I don't think he cares about the money.

I think, I think she plays it right.

I don't think she's one of these wives.

I see this in football.

So this, we can actually connect this.

I think there's something to the hard-to-get relationships when your partner is the center of attention at all times.

Like, they need something to keep their interest.

And if you're just like another fan to them, I think that's when you get walked all over.

So, you know, I'm, my husband does it to me.

He's so mean to me on purpose because he's like, oh, you know, a couple of guys think you're cute.

I don't think you're that cute.

You look young.

You know, he always keeps me in check that way.

You need works now.

Yeah, you need it, right?

Oh, me?

It's funny.

The first, my husband's met a lot of people in football.

And,

you know, if we have lunch or dinner with a coach or something, I always get the same thing afterwards, which is like, your husband's great, which he is.

He's a really kind person.

But my God, you married an ass and it's perfect for you.

Like, he knows how to just be mean to me to control it.

And it drives me nuts.

But obviously, it's the medicine that I take.

Diana, let's see if you can find a football angle to this one.

You mentioned having two kids.

I want to paint a scenario for you because our host today, Jonathan Zaszlo, has a 16-year-old who last night decided they had this fight with his parents.

Oh, if this is how you're going to be, get out of here.

And what did the 16-year-old do?

He got out of here.

He left and he got in his car.

Zaszlo

went to Taco Bell.

And then he didn't come back until three in the morning, Diana.

And she's not sure it's 1 a.m.

Sorry, 1 a.m.

1 a.m., which is still, what, four hours away?

And Zaszlo, neither Zaszlo or his wife, White Tamara, were sitting on the couch waiting for his son when they got home.

They were just in bed and just checked the Life 360 when they got up.

So I'm just curious how you would have played that scenario if one of your children just decided up and go and take your car.

They do do that.

They're four and two.

They walk out the front door, right to my right here all the time to tell me that they're leaving

and i'm not kidding mikey my old my four-year-old will walk to the end of the little path and go oh my god there's a ghost and run and run back in

they're so they're like scared of shadows um you sure it's not a real ghost though because kids can see things i know i mean but they talk a bit those boys talk a big game about wanting to leave here uh the same two boys who literally need me to wipe them.

So they're not built to live out in the wild.

And I don't think his 16-year-old is either.

And I think that's the reality.

I think we all, I was like, weren't you guys like that?

I always wanted to run away from my parents.

But then when I realized I had no money or food or phone, I was like, okay, I'll stay.

I didn't know how to cook.

Where am I going to go?

Well, hold on a second.

Diana, your phone has beeped a few.

I heard four.

Is there a score?

What's the news?

I'm sorry.

Is there news?

No, no, no.

It's okay.

Is there a news?

Do you guys remember the Salah thing last year?

Oh, yeah.

Do we?

Yes.

That was awful.

Right.

What happened here?

Anything?

Break it right here.

Let us know.

No, these are just group chats of people.

Pick up cauliflower for dinner.

You got to style it those group chats.

What's your favorite group chat these days?

What's the group chat conversation?

Like, what's your favorite chat that you have these days?

I would say the Scoop City group chat is pretty good because it's sometimes I wish I could take the Scoop City podcast group chat and put that on the show because Everyone is just exactly who they are talking about football.

Like those are the realest opinions and thoughts and ideas.

Um, I'd say my other most, my most popular one, the one that goes off the most is between Mike Silver, Jeff Darlington, and I.

That one's hot.

Um, we like to do this thing that they're doing.

Darlington, the golf and tennis guy, dude, right?

Who is he now?

He went from like Mr.

Football to now.

If there's anything big at the highest level with the richest people, Jeff's on my screen.

Yeah, he got whiter.

He is the whitest person I know,

which is why he fits so perfectly in those environments.

And he's so good at them.

And he loves it.

I text him constantly while he's at these events like, gosh, I am so bored watching you right now.

How are you doing this?

And he's like, oh my God, I met this while I'm doing this.

But yeah, we do this thing over our group chat where we like to play PR people, meaning whatever situation is going on in football, sports, world life, Hollywood celebrities, of, okay, they made this mistake.

How would you react to it?

And we do it constantly.

Of, you know, let's try to think of something right now.

Is there any, what, what, what's out there right now that's getting a lot of attention that you're like.

Shador Sanders after the game confronting Tony Grossi, legendary Tony Grossi.

Good.

Good.

Okay.

So usually the way it would go is someone would send the clip and be like, okay, you're doing what next if you're Tony.

You're doing next.

What next if you're Cleveland.

actually think Tony did a good job, right?

Tony just came, I think he talked about it, right?

Where he just was like, hey, I went up to him and we talked it out.

And

those situations are so weird when you have conflict with the player and people can see it because they don't really understand what's going on.

And I think Tony tried to paint a picture of it.

I was just glad that happened because the only thing that was cool, or at least that I thought was cool in Cleveland up to, up until this point, was Mary Kay Cabot at that speech at the Hall of Fame with her her absolute zinger to Bill Belichick.

Did you guys hear that?

Yeah.

I didn't know Mary had that in her.

Like that, that was really, did you, didn't you think that was well, stew?

Did you hear it?

I did not hear it.

No.

Okay, so Mary Kay Cabot is like the veteran beat reporter of the Cleveland Browns, right?

So she's very good, very good.

She's all Cleveland all the time.

So she's...

accepting her Hall of Fame award at the Hall of Fame in Canton

as I think she was like sportswriter, you know, whatever you get inducted, something I obviously have, will never have, because I don't even know what it's called.

So she was up there just talking about how when she was a young reporter, you know, Bill would call her, Belichick, and, you know, kind of cuss her out and get, go, you know, basically just, he was really hard on her.

And her response to it was like, you know, I sure hope you talk to the men like this.

You know, so she says, fast forward a few years later, she, you know, she's a 28-year-old reporter covering the Browns.

And she realized that the problem with her and Bill Belichick had nothing to do with the fact that she was a woman.

It had to do with the fact that he couldn't connect to her because she was 28.

She was too old.

That's very good.

By the way, it's the Bill Nunn Award, is what you were looking for.

Thanks.

I know I should know that as a journalist that works at the Athletic, which is owned by the New York Times.

You should know, Diana.

Stu looked that up all by himself.

I did.

Nobody fed him that.

I had no idea.

I figured he would know.

So thank you for googling that for me.

Diana,

what's the last time, you know, like Tony Grossi there, what's the last time you've been confronted?

I mean, obviously, you know, everyone remembers the Aaron Rodgers thing, but Aaron Rodgers didn't actually confront you face to face.

Like, when's the last time?

Unless I don't know about it.

I tried to talk to Aaron at Jets.

I asked for some time with him, actually.

And he had no interest.

He walked away from me.

That happens a lot.

Like, when's the last time I had a conflict with the player and like we had to talk about it?

Yeah.

Debo Samuel, who was

amazing afterwards.

I

that might be the scariest name to do a face-to-face with Debo.

Debo wants to talk.

I'm not afraid of confrontation, which I think you guys know that about me.

So I'm okay having those.

I've had more with coaches, right?

Because most of them are paranoid and annoyed if anything gets out.

You guys remember, I think it was two years ago or a year ago, I was at the, I think I talked about it on the show, where I was at the senior bowl.

And at the time, Mike Vrabel had,

he didn't have a job.

He had gotten fired from the Titans.

And I talked to a few people around the league, general managers who are making decisions for head coaches

about the hiring process, what people look for.

And

I had a few people say that like Mike can be very intimidating in these meetings and he's big.

Like he's a huge human being.

And he's intimidating.

Everything about him is intimidating.

And so I think the headline the next day, I got aggregated, you know how much we love that, that I called him fat or that I said Mike Vrabel was too big to get a job was like, I think the New York Post ran with it.

It was terrible.

And so he called me and that was not great.

That was, that was a hard one because I didn't, it wasn't my fault, right?

But I had to say sorry, even though it wasn't like a head coach doesn't want to hear that you were aggregated right they're just like figure it out don't don't be so stupid and share stuff like that but i i was trying to make a point of hey maybe you don't have a job because you're too big like because that's what people are saying um but but otherwise

they haven't been too bad Hey, it's Mike Ryan.

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Don Lebatard.

Daddy says you're doing a live show on the draft.

Wick, is it channel 7?

Stugats.

Those girls on Eyewitness News, they look good.

They're mothers.

They look good, though.

This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Diana, most interesting thing in preseason week number one was what?

How different the league feels about Shador Sanders' performance compared to the rest of us.

Funny.

Chase, my colleague on Scoop City, quarterback 14 years, studies film like a lunatic.

He's like an Orlovsky.

Loves it.

Like, just consumes this stuff.

And he was on the show with us in today's episode talking about it.

And he just really liked the things that he was doing.

Yet when I talk to people around the league, I don't get as much enthusiasm about what they saw from Shadur playing the actual position.

Just things that he still has to get better at, which is fine for a fifth-round pick, a rookie quarterback.

But I think it may have been heightened a bit just because I think there's a really big group of people that like Shadur.

They want to see him show the world that he deserves to be the starting quarterback in Cleveland, deserves to beat out Joe Flacco.

But

a lot of people people shared with me just, you know, he has a good arm.

He's got great poise, good plays with his legs, but

just, you know, poor ball security in the pocket, just a couple of those things.

So I want to see if this ever levels out.

That's what I want to see on Saturday when they play the Eagles.

The Browns are playing at the link at one

to just see if Shador takes this next step.

Or if everyone sees the way I think people that are studying this stuff see it.

How much of that reaction from people around the league is

the same guys who passed on them through four rounds, which was everyone.

Right.

Just digging in on their initials.

Including the Browns.

By the way.

It's funny.

When I was calling around, I kept that in mind.

Of course, I checked in with people that I knew were

in on Shador, we'll call it in, meaning they needed a quarterback.

But

I kept it pretty broad.

And I asked a lot of people on purpose because I wasn't sure from watching myself.

I beast on social media and the Nike ad, I'm like,

I guess it was great.

And then,

you know, I think there's, I think they have a really interesting situation there in Cleveland.

I don't think it's going to be easy waters to navigate

because there's going to be this pressure to put him out there because he's electric, because he's got this energy about him.

He's got this following.

But I don't necessarily believe that always means that that's the best choice.

So I think, unless he, if he takes some big step here coming up in this game, then I could see them maybe considering it.

But for right now, from what I understand and from talking to enough people around the league, I think Shador Sanders stays,

you know, on the depth chart in the spot he's in right now.

I don't foresee him moving up anywhere.

Why do you hate JJ McCarthy?

Oh my God.

You hate JJ McCarthy?

What's your problem with JJ?

So I'm going to Minnesota tonight.

I can't wait.

I feel like I'm going to land at the airport and people are going to throw eggs in my face.

By the way, leave it to me to fight with the nicest fan base in America.

Right.

Like, of course.

Yes.

Is that a known thing that Viking fans are the nicest fan base?

I didn't know that.

Oh my God.

They're like the minis, people from Minnesota.

Very nice.

Unbelievable.

Like even the staff in Minnesota.

Like you talk about fighting.

It's impossible to fight with people, with the coaching staff and with the PR people there.

It's like a Minnesota nice thing.

Obviously, East Coast people, we're a little bit more direct.

We'll scream in your face.

We'll love you and hug you later, but we share how we feel.

Minnesota just does.

I don't, I think they feel the same rage we feel, but they just don't say it.

But it's part of the reason why I love going to Minnesota is because I'm like, wow.

So this is a world where people are kind.

So yeah, in the offseason, there was, I think I got on their bad side because there was a time where Minnesota was having conversations about bringing in Aaron Rodgers.

And I made the mistake of doing Dan Patrick show.

Not, that wasn't the mistake.

I love Dan.

It was Dan set me up on purpose

and said, all right, take a guess right now.

If you had to guess, Aaron Rodgers will play where this is just a guess.

And as a reporter, when you guess, people think that's you saying that's what's going to happen.

And I like took a beat and I said, Dan, I think that Aaron Rodgers will somehow wind up in Minnesota.

That's a report.

Hater.

Why do you hate John Rogers?

That's a bad job by Dan Patrick, by the way.

Oh,

I texted his people.

I was like, never again.

No more guessing questions.

And I, I do really enjoy that show.

And he asks questions like you do, Stu, just things that, that are hard and I'm never going to come out on top, but I enjoy the challenge.

Because even this show, I will get aggregated from this afterwards, right?

It'll be like, Rossini hates Minnesota.

She thinks Doris Sanders should be cut, like, whatever.

It'll happen.

Send him to me afterwards.

Can't wait.

Love, love my job.

So I think what happened, I think Minnesota Viking fans took that as me going,

the Vikings are out on JJ.

Whereas I was trying to say, look, this team is built to win a Super Bowl.

This is a young quarterback coming off a significant injury who's essentially in his rookie season now.

Why not take a shot at Aaron Rodgers?

Sounds like you hate him.

Yeah.

I can't wait to see him because, you know, he sees it.

Like, what am I going to say?

Like, hi.

I'm like, I had nothing to apologize for.

You were doing your job.

That's it.

Diana, it seems as though.

What if he yells?

What if he just comes up to me?

What if this is the conflict?

Like he's just like,

I don't know what a man would do to a female.

Like I don't think he's going to like swing at me, but what would be funny?

It's unlikely he'll swing at me.

It'd be a story if he did.

Yeah, definitely.

Unlikely.

What would be funny

if he like started dancing like a dance routine?

I'm just trying to find something funny that he could do.

Something just like bizarre.

Diana, it would seem as though the NFL media is more locked into into Shador than the number one pick.

Usually the number one pick making his debut at that position gets the NFL network treatment.

It's kind of quiet around Cameron Ward.

And I know...

You're calling him Cameron.

You're in on Cameron?

Well,

one of my theories there is that there was already a Cam that played quarterback relatively recently.

And

he's not at the point in his career where he can just go Cam and everybody knows what you're talking about.

So for now, he's Cameron.

He's got to earn being the universal Cam.

And that has a long way to go for Cameron Ward.

And he very clearly wants to be called Cameron.

So I'm going to try my best to adhere to it.

Made some nice throws.

I know from being down here, knowing how he can change a program and the type of leader that he is.

And I'm wondering if there's any chatter around

Titans camp that they may have gotten a really, really good one.

Maybe a rap battle.

You're so right.

He owns the title of least talked about quarterback, but that doesn't mean he's not doing great things.

I can tell you

Tennessee is really happy with where he's at in terms of his development and this transition period where

this is so important for these quarterbacks to get adjusted to the NFL.

I was in Denver two weeks ago with Bo Nicks and we were talking about how different it is in year two.

And it's just so funny.

You know, it's just like anything.

When you look, think about when we all got our jobs.

where we're at now that first year, you thought you knew what you're doing, but you had no idea.

Like when you look back after the second year.

um so i think there's a lot of just learning absorbing and absorbing large amounts um i do think they have a great head coach for that anytime i've asked players about what his coaching style is i always hear teacher with callahan like he's really good with with quarterback specifically um

so i think he's in good hands from that perspective You know, I just don't, I don't know how the rest of this roster is going to look and shake out.

But in terms of his development, I've heard nothing but great things.

It's just we're not talking about him enough because there's just, there's nothing,

there's no drama.

This goes, this is how we started this conversation.

Like the most interesting relationships, the most interesting things are the ones that have the drama.

And there's just, there's no drama in Tennessee, which is, I can tell you, they love it this way.

I think there's so much attention around Shador Sanders, Mike, that there's none being given to Cameron Ward.

And I think that kind of helps him out.

The Metropolitan Series.

Okay, so let's play the game that I play with Silver and Darlington.

How would you help the situation in Tennessee so we start paying attention to camp?

Oh, I think his play will make people pay attention.

No one's going to give them a snowball's chance in hell week one.

Oh, and because Shador is not going to start week one.

They brought in Flacco.

Flacco, it's

common knowledge that Flacco's going to start.

Do you think Shadur will start this year?

I think at some point, yeah, because they're going to be bad and people are going to be clamoring for it.

And at that point, you need to see what the kids got.

I don't know if he plays before Dylan Gabriel, but I think they have five kids.

Historically, we've all seen the jerseys.

Chances are all four of them are getting in at one point.

Kenny Pickett's going to get a run too.

But I think Cameron Ward's play is going to dictate the narrative, and I think it sets up nicely.

People are underestimating them.

They play in a division that if they make slight augmentations and improvements, they can make a run inside of that division.

If he has a good performance week one against, we all acknowledge Denver's a loaded team this year, has a good defense.

If he looks the part, then people are going to talk to talk about him.

It's a weird place that no one's talking about a Heisman Trophy finalist that was a number one overall draft pick, but I'm sure he's actually reveling in that.

I still think Tennessee has been ignored because they've lacked identity over the last few years, right?

At one point, they were these tough, relentless, smart players.

Derrick Henry was the star.

Obviously, they were in the AOC championship game when Ryan Tannehill was there.

But that feels like a decade ago.

It wasn't.

It was, what, five, six years ago now.

But I think this is an opportunity for Tennessee to get back on the map because there's a reason we're not paying attention because we're not really sure what they are.

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Don Lebatard.

Are you on the fan right now?

Did Mike Greenberg call you yet?

Are you ever gonna go back to ESPN?

People think it's so weird you're a writer now.

All those years on TV?

All those years?

And now you write?

Who reads that?

Stugats.

Why did he take a job at the Atlantic?

Mom, I work at the Athletic.

What

are you on YouTube?

This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Diana, I saw something on the TV screens here that was kind of jarring.

It was Jeff Saturday saying, quote, I love what the Jets are doing.

And so, question number one here,

as we look at the tightened up guy with the flag, trying to get that.

Just couldn't figure out this flag.

I mean, tried it four different ways.

Still, now it's backwards, dude.

It's just like, you got this, man.

there we go you guys take commercials no no we just have picture and picture we're very add around here

so a diana what are the jets doing because i only know about the detroit lions and secondly should stugots be excited because jeff saturday said this

i think this is camp and everyone's excited because there's been a change there.

And I can tell you that's that is true, right?

This is different than the Sala years.

Just from an accountability standpoint, that's what Aaron Glenn, you know, we just talked about the Titans, about what they are.

Aaron Glenn is not struggling in the space of what the heck the Jets are going to be.

They know what that is already.

They've set that standard, which I think is a good start for them.

This is going to be just in Fields, though.

It's going to come down to that.

And it's been up and down.

It's from what I'm hearing, it's, you know, a couple good days and then just not

great at all.

And,

you know, look, I don't think this is going to be some tremendous year for the New York Jets, no way.

But I do love the fact that this feels like this could be a good building block towards something in the future.

You know,

they have players.

Like they, it's not that they lack talent.

You said love.

So does Jeff Saturday.

So apparently people love the Jets this year.

Yeah, but the problem is every three years, the Jets hire a new head coach and they're headed in the right direction.

Every three years, the Jets, no one has been headed in the right direction more so over NFL history than the New York Jets.

Why?

Because those are the things you say when you get a new head coach who gave up 45 points as a coordinator for the Lions.

Well, the only thing I don't love about how

Aaron Glenn is doing things is when, whenever I've covered Detroit, you know, it's always he's such a good hands-on coach.

He knows the defense so well.

His ability to coach is his strength, right?

And I'm not looking past that.

I'm highlighting it.

But he's not going to be doing that as the head coach, from what I understand.

Yes, he's the head coach, but that special sauce that he has, I don't know if he's going to be able to continue doing that the way we saw him do it in Detroit and

what's made him so good.

Now, in the same regard,

I have heard optimistic things coming out of Florim Park already, but

I don't know.

Stu, I'm with you.

Right, exactly.

It's so hard this time of year to really figure out Justin Fields is their quarterback.

Well, Well, how do they plan on using Justin Fields?

You know what's so funny?

Stu, I'm so glad you said that because I am a sucker for that too.

Sometimes I forget what the reality is, right?

Because I get excited about pieces or things I'm hearing or a couple good plays I'll watch.

And then it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

What are we talking about here?

Like, Joe Flacco's the starting quarterback in Cleveland, and we think they're going to be good.

You know, like you, you, once you stop for a second

and take a breath and go, okay, what is the realistic situation?

But Diana, they brought in Justin Fields because he's reputed to be one of those guys that, for whatever reason, because of the stops that he's been at before, I assume,

and the situation that he was in with Russell Wilson in the same quarterback room is this guy didn't get a real extended shot at the position.

But I'm curious as to how they're going to use him because oftentimes when guys that are that mobile and he is a special kind of athlete, I think he had the second greatest rushing yard total ever at the position.

Sometimes they try to prove to the doubters that they can be passers.

Justin Fields is at the point in his career where he's got to lean into his elite skill set, and that's being a runner.

Now, that's a dangerous position for a quarterback.

You take a pounding, but is he of the mindset that he's going to do what helps his team win?

Right now, we have very little evidence that's with his arm.

We have a lot of evidence that the best shot that they have is with his feet.

Yep.

And it just made me think because you were talking about that.

Whenever you talk about a guy that's going to run a lot, you immediately think, all right, who's going to be, who's the backup?

Right.

Because, you know, we'll run into, it's Tyrod Taylor, right who who can do a good job running the offense and and he i feel like he's been around for 900 years um but yeah that the the of course they're going to tap into that i'm curious to see what this coaching staff's going to do with him i you know let's go back to pittsburgh there was a very strong um

vibe that justin was the better quarterback over russell wilson in camp i remember being in pittsburgh and i felt something weird going on there where it felt like half the team wanted justin the other half wanted Russ.

Obviously, Mike Tomlin went with what he wanted, which was Russell.

But there were things that he was doing that Justin was doing well.

And not to get too introspective on it, but I wonder how much of that experience has affected him now being the starter, because I know that that was hard for him.

When he did the work, he was.

playing very well in Pittsburgh.

And he's, he's, his journey's been hard.

It hasn't exactly been blockbuster as we know.

So I'm hoping to see just like a tough guy that wants to prove to the world that Chicago should have never gave up on him.

That's what I want to see.

I'm hoping to see Tyrod Taylor.

If we're seeing Tyrod Taylor.

What do you mean?

We have a chance.

Okay, what if?

All right, let's just say it's October, right?

First week of October.

Yeah.

And it's obvious the quarterback's situation is not good.

How would you feel about Kirk Cousins coming to New York?

What's my record?

Oh, the quarterback situation is not good.

You have a shit record.

Well,

that's not always the case.

Not always the case.

Remember that time when the quarterback situation was bad and we were a good team?

Yeah, not always.

Not always the case.

Just not always the case.

Mike Tomlin makes it to the playoffs in that situation.

Yes, gross music.

Mason Rudolph.

I mean, what's the matter with you?

Say so.

What if Derek Carr comes out of retirement?

Would you take that?

Is that a thing?

Wow.

No.

Okay.

That's faith.

I mean, maybe.

But I have heard Kirk Cousins

recently

people are looking at Matthew Safford's health.

This is a big contract.

How difficult is that that going to be to move?

Because Kirk Cousins is always the first guy that people go to as if someone needs a quarterback and you just did it, Kirk Cousins is going to be the one that's available.

He's the most, we'll call it available because we know he doesn't want to be there.

Right.

But it's a huge contract.

How does it get moved?

What does it look like?

It's...

the New York Jets willing to take on that salary that Arthur Blank in Atlanta does not want to pay.

And

usually when these trades happen, there's usually some type of an agreement.

I'll take on 70% of it and you know, you take 30 and whatever the math is.

From what I understand, that the teams that have called just to poke around,

the Falcons are like, come up big and we'll talk.

But until a team does that, and desperate teams tend to do that, so it would come down to how desperate the Jets would be and what they'd be willing to spend and if they even have the ability to do it in order to make a move like that.

But let's say you do do that.

and you make all that happen.

I mean, do you feel good that Kirk Cousins at this point in his life could give the jets a chance

uh i would feel good about it i would think the only the reason i ask the record is the jets would only do that if they felt like they had a chance to make it to the playoffs right otherwise why would you do that There'd be no reason.

But if we were flirting with a playoff spot and we got Kirk Cousins halfway through the season, yeah, I'd feel pretty good about my chances.

And that's also a situation if you're flirting with a playoff spot, that means your quarterback position has been performing pretty well.

I mean, it stands to reason, unless you're Mike Tomlin.

I think you guys are forgetting Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson.

There have been some bad quarterbacks who have made it to a Super Bowl and bad quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl.

Unloaded teams.

Nick Bowles, right?

Unloaded teams, though.

Bob Grace.

Has it ever happened for a team that people pick to finish bottom of the division?

Stu,

it's unbelievable.

You really

can't get a win here with this team.

And I know how excited you were when Aaron joined.

Like, I remember being on the show two years ago.

You weren't grainy.

All right.

Let's not get crazy.

I was pretty excited.

I was.

I mean, so was I.

Yes.

Because the idea of it was perfect.

And I thought they did the right thing.

I still say they did the right thing back.

I mean, obviously they did not based on what we saw, but we did not know he was going to get hurt.

Right.

The injury just.

No, they did the right thing.

I mean, we're playing the result and I love to do that, but they did the right thing at the time.

Aaron Rodgers was available and he wanted to be a New York jet.

Yeah.

My foot has fallen asleep three times during this interview.

I don't know what that means, but it's a stand-up.

That's a second very clear message that she doesn't want to be.

Why I keep suggesting, like, just shake it out.

I've never been asked for a commercial break before.

You guys think commercials?

I just forgot.

I forgot I'm not wearing dress pants.

So sorry, I'm wearing just like gym shorts.

Have you noticed there's like a trend?

It could have been worse.

It could have been worse.

Yeah, true.

There's like a trend right now with men on TV where like I see Dan and Adam.

Like,

it's like cool to just go on TV like like that like why like I I come on the show a lot I try I always have lipstick on or I brush my hair because I don't know I I'm at work but I feel like the cool thing now is to like be sloppy

is that the cool thing I've been doing

the show like this yeah just like that once a week like let's talk ball boys what do we got I like it

Diana are we

Diana, are we watching the end of Matthew Stafford's career right now?

Yeah, yes, because of his age.

I don't think it's because the injury is going to be the, I mean, look, he's been dealing with back.

It's sorry, it's very hard to be

sloppy.

Someone's just got to get it.

Is he getting the pins and needles now?

Where are we on the foot sleep fit?

Yeah, you gave the foot away for free.

Somebody just screen grabbed it.

I hope you know.

Is that an age that?

Like, where did this go?

Like, why am I, why am I like, is this bad circulation?

I mean, it depends on how you sit, but yes, it's just largely bad circulation.

Eventually, you got to get some blood flow into the breast.

I used to get this when I was pregnant.

Oh, God.

Whoa.

Wow.

Revelation?

Revelation, mark it down.

Wow.

Possible?

Do we need to take a test?

Do we need a commercial?

Deep in thought.

Deep in thought.

Huh?

No.

Okay.

No?

Maybe?

You sure?

Maybe?

Possibly.

Yeah.

If you have to think that hard.

I like the feeling when something falls asleep.

She might be pregnant, Chris.

That's what we're doing right now.

Are you?

She hasn't felt this since she was pregnant, and she's feeling it again.

One last football question before you go.

She's doing it.

If there's a reason for doubt in Detroit, it's because they lost their two coordinators to be head coaches elsewhere.

It's been theorized that Dan Campbell is exactly where he wants because he likes being underestimated, and he's a lot smarter when it comes to these things than people give him credit for.

What are you doing?

You know, I'm the Detroit Lions expert in all of sports.

Why are we even asking Diana this question?

Hold on, we have imaging.

Hold on, we have imaging.

That's it.

That's hold on.

Thank you, Diana.

Although I was kind of bummed out, like, Honolulu blue is not something I have full, like the closet full of, but I wore this one today, and I get into the office, and Billy over there wears a better shade of blue.

He's got the UCLA blue over there, and I'm just like, come on, man, know what we're doing here.

All right, so real quick with our Detroit Lions minute.

To answer your question there, Mike, yes, the coordinator thing is a problem.

This week against the Dolphins actually might be interested because they're testing their toughness against the Dolphins.

So they're trying to figure out if their issues in camp are real or fake.

And they're trying to test it against the Dolphins.

Pretty sure they're going to be fake.

Also, did you know that Jared Goff compared Aiden Hutchinson to Aaron Donald?

Imagine if you get a full year of Aaron Donald.

And Diana, my question to you is, I already subscribed to the Detroit Free Press.

I did not subscribe yet to the Detroit News.

Their stories seem pretty similar.

Do you subscribe to every freaking newspaper?

How do you do this?

So I work for a newspaper.

It's the New York Times.

So I love reading our people.

We have the best reporters.

So down,

you subscribe to the Athletic, right?

Yeah, sure.

Duh.

Especially now after the Pablo announcement.

Guys, you better.

Everyone here.

You better send me a screen grab

of your subscription.

And if you don't, I'll give you a secret password that you can use.

So, yeah, no, it's so funny you say that.

I'm sure you guys have those things on your phone where you can see like all the times your thing gets your credit card charges.

And I have a million different newspapers.

Like there has to be a better way to do this because I'm the same way you are.

I love to consume as much as I can.

So I'm probably spending thousands of dollars a month on just reading every newspaper.

Yeah, that's not worth it.

You can go ahead and cancel your two Detroit newspaper subscriptions because I got that whole beat covered for the entire country.

All right.

Why don't we do this?

Why don't you and I just start a text exchange and just give me everything I need to know.

So just save me some time.

Plus, I'm busy, so I don't, I don't really know.

I'm Honolulu Blue Chat starting.

Let's do it.

I'm in.

Great job, Diana.

Scoop City Podcast.

Thanks for hanging out with us.

I will see you guys at the start of the season.

I look forward to it.

Good luck with the pregnancy test.

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