The Big Suey: Billy Pulls Off Some Wednesday S***

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"James Franklin? Pshaw!"

Can Ark Manning live up to the hype? Will Mike get emotional over Lee Corso? Can Dan continue to mess up Cameron (A)Ward's name? Do you remember the Bill/Henry Walker game?
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Speaker 10 Welcome to the Big Sue,

Speaker 10 presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? It's a podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebetard podcast.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

Speaker 10 In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's prize if they're just there.

Speaker 5 That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it.

Speaker 10 And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

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Speaker 10 Stephen A. Smith is going to be around here in a little bit.
And Pitch Clock.

Speaker 10 Jeremy, I don't like how again and again we segregate baseball on this show, where we, Jeremy, we just tell Jeremy, go out there and do pitch clock off there by yourself.

Speaker 5 By yourself, that's a lot of fun. Well, no, no, I've seen you on every episode.

Speaker 4 Open that ass in trivia. That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 10 I have seen you on there. I'm just saying as a

Speaker 1 show

Speaker 10 accessory, as a show segment that we're proud to have grown for people who want baseball. You can just go get concentrated chunks of entertaining baseball stuff over there and only over there.

Speaker 10 Because when I'm trying to talk about Schwarber, everybody will just make it about Otani and Judge, and that's all we're doing.

Speaker 5 Is he evil?

Speaker 4 I feel like we did a good three minutes on Schwarber.

Speaker 12 I think it's trending in an evil direction.

Speaker 5 He's getting paid.

Speaker 5 He's a Philly, too. By the way, we nailed that.
We were workshopping back here. I thought it was a cool Philly.

Speaker 10 Dombrowski is one of the greatest executives of all time. Dombrowski, I mean, Schwarber,

Speaker 10 how do you project Schwarber into somebody who's going to stay healthy and hit 45 home runs a season, three straight years, the only person in baseball to do so?

Speaker 3 You make him a DH forever. That's how.

Speaker 13 It's incredible.

Speaker 10 But he's a Keg softball player. The home run he hit last night to get to number 45, he was off balance, and it didn't even look like he caught the right part of the bat.

Speaker 10 The guy can just hit fly balls that go out of parks because he's just,

Speaker 10 he's that physically strong.

Speaker 14 I feel like he would be insulted by Keg softball players.

Speaker 3 Oh, but what he did in the swing-off in the All-Star game was essentially like a Keg softball player there, just simply because he saw three pitches and hit all of them out of the ballpark.

Speaker 13 He's ridiculous.

Speaker 10 You think that's an insult to call him a Keg softball player?

Speaker 5 Yes. And I thought he would take a Keg softball player.

Speaker 1 Kyle Schwarber, another level.

Speaker 5 No, Adam Dunn.

Speaker 10 Hold on a second. Are we talking body types? Adam Dunn is bigger than Kyle Schwarber.
Adam Dunn is taller longer than Kyle.

Speaker 10 Thank you, Billy. Kyle Schwarber is a little square of a human being.

Speaker 10 He's much smaller than Otani and Judge.

Speaker 10 He looks, I'm not going to say he looks overweight because he doesn't, but he looks square.

Speaker 10 And he goes and takes pornographic hacks when he gets up there. And he's got three straight seasons of 45 home runs.
And that concludes our baseball talk over here.

Speaker 15 He also, just correction, does not.

Speaker 3 Baseball famous

Speaker 3 segregated sport, by the way.

Speaker 5 He only had 38 last year?

Speaker 15 He had 38 last year, 47 the year before, and 46 the year before. But did it, okay, was

Speaker 10 it?

Speaker 5 Am I counting playoff homers there then? Maybe.

Speaker 12 I don't know. That'd be weird because no one does that.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 5 What a waste, huh?

Speaker 15 We count the World Series like it counts, but none of the other stats that happened in the postseason matter anywhere.

Speaker 10 It's crazy. I'm fear.
I've got it wrong. Stole it straight off of the ESPN graphics.

Speaker 15 He also has 43 this year, so he hasn't gotten 45 this year yet either.

Speaker 13 We're close.

Speaker 4 They do keep track of home run stats. I mean, playoff home runs.

Speaker 3 It's not like they just disappear.

Speaker 14 You can look up who who has the most playoff home runs.

Speaker 15 Yeah, but like, they don't count towards your total at the end. Do you know?

Speaker 4 We had our first Bob in Major League Baseball in 15 years.

Speaker 3 It's a huge deal. Bob Seymour hit his first home run last night for your raise, Dan.
The first Bob in 15 years.

Speaker 15 I would

Speaker 10 pause it. It's a huge deal.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I saw

Speaker 3 we had a whole conversation on this show a couple months ago about how they're not making Bobs anymore, especially.

Speaker 5 Who is the last Bob?

Speaker 1 Well, there is Bobby Witt.

Speaker 5 There's no Bobbies. No, no, Bobs specifically.

Speaker 3 Bob Howery was the last Bob. He retired in 2010.
But not only that, there were three Seymours in the Rays Giants game last night, Bob, Ian, and Carson. All three made their debuts this year.

Speaker 3 Prior to that, hadn't been a Seymour last name since 1913. Look at Mike's face.
So not only a 15-year drought for Bobs, 113-year drought for Seymours. I mean, that's baseball.

Speaker 10 TV truck, as Mike likes to call you. I want you to zone in right now on Mike's face.
That's Ryan Bass.

Speaker 10 Because

Speaker 10 the reporting that was a huge deal there is that we've seen our first Bob in big league baseball.

Speaker 15 Why don't you just give a shout out to the Rays

Speaker 15 sideline reporter?

Speaker 5 Because he's the one who raised Jeremy.

Speaker 6 It was earned.

Speaker 5 Interim.

Speaker 10 So, Mike,

Speaker 10 your disgust is on a number of different levels here, but I'm assuming that your greatest disgust comes from, at least in part, as we talk about whatever it is that we talk about around here.

Speaker 10 We are headed toward a college football season about to start with something I can say pretty confidently isn't something we've seen before, which is we've been waiting two years to see this quarterback.

Speaker 10 He's going to come out with Texas. Does he have the quarterback chromosome of Eli Manning, Peyton Manning? Who's the next future face of the sport?

Speaker 10 They're going to try and keep making it the quarterbacks. We're going to finally get to see Arch Manning.

Speaker 10 I can't remember another scenario off the top of of my head where the expectation was so grand where you're waiting for, oh, they're going to be the number one team in the country just because of the expectations for that name on the back of the jersey.

Speaker 12 Dan, has there ever been a season that begins with the Heisman Trophy favorite? He has the shortest odds, plus 600 Arch Manning. The Heisman Trophy favorite has no resume.
In college football.

Speaker 12 I don't know of an instance.

Speaker 5 He did play some last year.

Speaker 12 Oh, give me a break. Come on.
Give me the competition. Couldn't we talk about it? I'll give you a break.
Give me a break. I'll give you that break.

Speaker 5 You said he didn't play. I told you he played.
Saz is a college football expert. I am.

Speaker 12 There are three college football experts right now. It's Paul Feinbaum, Heather Dinitz, and me.
All right. And I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 Breaks over. No resume.
Breaks over. Breaks over.
All right. He played a little last year and got people excited, but now he's opening the season.

Speaker 12 Oh, my God. UT Texas, you all Monroe.
What a resume.

Speaker 5 He's

Speaker 5 playing the defending national champion. It's a top three matchup because the AP messed this one up.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that's kind of how do you do that? That's BS, right, Dan? I mean, the AP,

Speaker 12 it was right in front of you.

Speaker 5 You got to make it one versus two.

Speaker 12 One versus two.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 everybody knows Penn State's not the second best team in the country ever.

Speaker 5 I re-watched that Orange Bowl game. Man, did Penn State throw up all over their jersey.

Speaker 5 And also, upon third viewing of this game, because it was a great game, still no completions to wide receivers from Drew Aller.

Speaker 10 Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebatard show. Is Penn State ever really the number two team?

Speaker 5 Remember the narrative going into that playoff game because they won a home game against SMU and then got Boise in the playoff. And everyone's like, Penn State, James Franklin, he's doing it.

Speaker 12 The easiest pass.

Speaker 5 The Notre Dame Fighting Irish were so broken. They were out of that game.
Penn State, embarrassing.

Speaker 10 I don't think you just did what you just did, which is James Franklin.

Speaker 10 It's not broken anymore. Did you do a flex on James Franklin?

Speaker 5 James Franklin flex? Pushaw. All right.
You didn't change any narrative. You took advantage of a terrified quarterback from SMU, one of the worst quarterback performances I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 5 That game was there for SMU to win. And then, don't get me sorry on Boise.
Nice little team. Sorry, little team.
But that doesn't change a narrative, James Franklin. Pushaw.

Speaker 10 Pushaw, and then two chicken wings to the side are you flexing you're flexing a peshaw look it's weird your insults yesterday it was what was it I made a musical guy and today

Speaker 5 today it's Peshaw James Franklin Peshawar put it on the poll and that well what

Speaker 10 James he's right who who uses Peshaw anymore nobody uses Peshawar

Speaker 10 what

Speaker 10 at Lebatard show have you ever heard anyone use dismiss someone else with the phrase Peshaw?

Speaker 10 To Zaslow's point, though, when he says Arch Manning has not played against anybody,

Speaker 10 I know we make all of these people into,

Speaker 10 I don't know, avatars in cartoons.

Speaker 10 I don't know what the pressure actually is of growing up in the Manning name, but for two years, they've been incubating this kid who comes with the expectation of your uncles carried this league for 15 years fighting Brady and they were the top of the sport and we expect you to be good

Speaker 10 because

Speaker 10 Eli was good in Mississippi and we all saw it before Mississippi was any good.

Speaker 10 Like we know what these people are supposed to look like and the pressure of that, I ask you, like I know we think these things are, you know, easier than they are.

Speaker 10 The pressure of this quarterback against Ohio State, the defending champion, a team that's super loaded with no resume.

Speaker 5 On the road.

Speaker 10 With no resume.

Speaker 10 What are the reasonable expectations there?

Speaker 12 Go in there and win.

Speaker 12 That's literally the expectation. Go in there.
Your first game as the man for Texas.

Speaker 12 Been waiting for years. Good one, Chris.
Go in there. At Ohio State, they'll dot that stupid eye pregame and beat him.

Speaker 5 Corso's got to put on the Buckeye hat.

Speaker 5 You got to. Oh, man.
That's another thing. Lee has some guts.

Speaker 1 You got to zag there.

Speaker 5 I got gotta zag if you're Lee. Have you guys submitted a video for Lee Corso? I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 5 Because they're soliciting homemade videos where you say what Lee Corso meant to you over the years. And I think I speak for everybody here.
Lee Corso meant a lot to us. Yeah.

Speaker 5 A fixture on our Saturday mornings. I mean, Lee Corso is as iconic to your Saturday mornings as Bugs Bunny was.

Speaker 5 He is an adult Saturday morning cartoon. I'm thinking about putting together a little video for him.
It means that much. Wow.
Sunshine Scooter.

Speaker 4 Yeah. We should put that on the poll.
Bigger part of your Saturday mornings growing up.

Speaker 14 Lee Corso, Bugs Bunny.

Speaker 13 I'm going to cry.

Speaker 5 You are all going to cry. And I'm saying this as a guy that has literal Lee Corso fan fiction tattooed on his calf.
I am not ready to say goodbye.

Speaker 15 There's like a special tomorrow, I think, for Lee Corso.

Speaker 5 Dude, they're airing prime time. The eyes are welling already.
Yeah. This is bad.
I'm like legit, like getting emotional right now.

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Speaker 15 Did you guys notice that Arch, Ark Manning, was not on the Manning Award preseason watch list?

Speaker 1 Demo just his name on it.

Speaker 4 Demon jinx it?

Speaker 5 That's a conflict of interest. Is it?

Speaker 5 It has to be, right?

Speaker 15 How can he be the Heisman favorite to be the best player in college football, but not on the watch list for the best quarterback in college football?

Speaker 5 They don't think he's worth watching. You know who won that one last year?

Speaker 15 I do.

Speaker 15 Tell him.

Speaker 5 I'm pretty sure it was Cameron Ward. Who wants it? Who?

Speaker 5 I found this. Like, we asked, why is he called Cameron? I got the background on it.

Speaker 12 I heard it too.

Speaker 5 Is this a happen-to-know? I happen to know.

Speaker 10 Hold on a second. Hold on a second.
Do you happen to know?

Speaker 5 Do you know? Oh my God, he knows. He happens to know.

Speaker 10 Come, everyone.

Speaker 5 Come and listen. Happens to know.

Speaker 10 He happens to know.

Speaker 5 Well informed.

Speaker 5 So if he's going by Cameron Ward now and that's the insistence, and we kind of theorized when you say Cam in the NFL at that position,

Speaker 5 you're still thinking Cam Newton.

Speaker 10 That's what I heard.

Speaker 5 So I think that that's part of the branding, but why wasn't he called Cameron last year if this is so important?

Speaker 5 He went the entire year, never heard that this was his preference. Everybody called him Cam.
And a request came from the family, hey, for the awards, can we make it Cameron?

Speaker 5 It was important to the family and Cam Rin at that time that he was recognized as Cameron Ward. So Miami didn't just like issue any personal request.

Speaker 5 Come award season, that's when Mr. Ward decided I'm going to be known as Cameron from here on out.

Speaker 16 Interesting.

Speaker 5 Gather, everyone. Get the children.

Speaker 10 He happens to know.

Speaker 5 I just bought a jersey of this. So wise.

Speaker 15 But we still don't know why they just wanted that. They just wanted it.

Speaker 5 It was important to the family that his legal name was on the awards. And then going forward,

Speaker 5 you can theorize as we have that for branding's sake, we're in number one and your name is Cam and you're going solely as Cam. That's still, we're still too close.

Speaker 5 I mean, Cam Newton's still very active in the media space.

Speaker 10 I don't have a lot of historical context for what it is that I'm about to say.

Speaker 10 So I hope the group here can walk me through when people were talking while I was away about football things and all of a sudden I'm hearing about an apocalyptic dolphin practice, which is not something I've generally heard of.

Speaker 10 But when I've heard of things that happen that echo throughout a droning preseason, of Vrabel's in the middle of one huddle and he's getting bloodied and we're talking about that.

Speaker 10 But Cam Ward fighting a defensive tackle on his own team.

Speaker 10 I know people, you know, I know emotions run high. I know things get heated.

Speaker 10 But the only other time that I had heard about a quarterback fighting somebody on his own team, because you know not to fight the quarterback.

Speaker 10 Everyone knows don't fight the quarterback was Cam Newton fighting against, was it Josh Norman or others, but in that fight, Cam Newton was not the smaller human being.

Speaker 10 What was reported about

Speaker 10 Cam Ward fighting a guy, is Simmons, he's a 360-pound person, is he not?

Speaker 5 Jeffrey Simmons, I mean,

Speaker 5 he's put together.

Speaker 5 He's the baddest guy in the yard.

Speaker 5 When you're going at someone from Tennessee, you don't want to go at Jeffrey Simmons. But that's how Cam Ward is.

Speaker 5 And they asked him the very next day at practice, any lessons that you learn from your scuffle with Jeffrey Simmons. And he said, yeah, Jeff is strong as shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 6'4, 300 pounds.

Speaker 10 Okay, so he's not 360. Forgive me.

Speaker 5 No, he's and he's built like it is a cut 300.

Speaker 15 I don't want you to feel bad about getting his weight wrong. I have a correction to a correction, Dan.
Kaush Warbert does have 45 home runs. I was looking at baseball reference.

Speaker 15 Baseball reference is having technical difficulties, and they haven't updated their stats since Tuesday.

Speaker 15 So we're, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 5 Well, he didn't hit seven home runs.

Speaker 15 Well, no, no, he had, no, I told you he had 43 this year. He had 38 last year.

Speaker 15 I told you he had 43 this year. He has 45 now.
They haven't updated the site in at least two days.

Speaker 10 But is there any particular reason, as I was

Speaker 10 saying what I was saying about Schwarber, did you just wanted to make sure that I had it right? Or you.

Speaker 15 yeah, we, I mean, this is, is this,

Speaker 5 I'm sorry. Is this not a journalistic entity? I know we pride ourselves.
But I did have it right.

Speaker 15 Well, no, you didn't. He still had 38 last year.

Speaker 15 That hasn't changed. He didn't gain last year's home runs this year.
Didn't fix that? Yeah, no, that has not been corrected yet. It'd be cool if it carried over.

Speaker 15 Honestly, it would kind of. Or like you say, you know what? Like, I have my career home runs.
Let's move 72 is a lot in a season. Let's move this over.
Or you say, you know what?

Speaker 15 Ken Griffey had like, whatever his max was, 61, but he had like 50 years before.

Speaker 5 He's like, you know what I want to do?

Speaker 15 Let's make it 110 for next season. And that's the new record.

Speaker 15 You know?

Speaker 15 All right. You guys wanted to count post-season home runs.
Everybody knows that's a crazy idea.

Speaker 10 Forgive me here for.

Speaker 15 What's happening?

Speaker 15 Sorry, buddy.

Speaker 5 Billy's got a major penalty. Five minutes for being Billy.

Speaker 5 Billy.

Speaker 7 It's Thursday, buddy. Seek ya.

Speaker 5 Good call.

Speaker 5 Good call.

Speaker 15 Barber's still there or what?

Speaker 3 You know, the Cameron Ward thing really reminds me of Mike to Giancarlo Stanton.

Speaker 3 And speaking of Giancarlo Stanton, 362 batting average, 429 on base percentage, 830 slugging percentage over his last 30 games. Only the second time in his career he's done that.

Speaker 3 The other time was when he won the MVP here in Miami in 2017.

Speaker 5 Look at his OPS.

Speaker 5 Fire. Look at his OPS.

Speaker 15 Crazy. Jerry Bear, look at his OPS the last two weeks.
It was nuts.

Speaker 9 1800.

Speaker 15 I'm on my way out. But yeah, look at it.

Speaker 10 Just useless. Like, just just fundamentally useless.

Speaker 10 Just making corrections that are wrong, not helpful, correcting corrections, and those being wrong as well.

Speaker 4 I mean, this is just.

Speaker 15 2040 in his last seven games of the year.

Speaker 5 That's crazy.

Speaker 14 Baseball.

Speaker 10 Gotta go. I've just been trying to get him into a baseball conversation for like four months.
Can't do it. That's the one he wants to have.

Speaker 10 Like four months I've been trying to get him into a better report.

Speaker 5 You missed a solid month of it.

Speaker 15 Let me tell you about that Jake Marcy.

Speaker 10 I've been trying to get

Speaker 10 Marlon's information out of it. Like, he cares deeply, but it's all hidden.
It's all covered in scars. He doesn't want anybody to see it.

Speaker 15 It's a meeting in there, so we're good.

Speaker 5 I'm back. I'll go serve his penalty.

Speaker 6 Wait, but I'm looking in there.

Speaker 10 I'll serve it. I'm looking in there right now.
There's no one in there.

Speaker 15 The door's closed. Be careful, too.

Speaker 5 You're not a firefighter. I don't need you.
You can't break that door down.

Speaker 10 The penalty was not a request. You can leave and give me five minutes.
Mike's serving it for him.

Speaker 5 No, no, no. He's volunteering against Tribune.
Nope.

Speaker 10 That's not how it works either. I would like you to leave because I don't need you here right now.
So it wasn't optional. You can leave.
Thank you.

Speaker 5 All right.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 5 Go ahead.

Speaker 15 Look, but Stanton's never been crazy. You got to look into him.
I was thinking at the deadline when people were like, Stanton, he's still got it or not.

Speaker 15 I'm like, man, David Sampson keeps telling us the Marlins are still paying Stanton. What a story, huh?

Speaker 15 If the Yankees just release him and then the Marlins just bring him back because they're paying him anyways, right? I'll go

Speaker 2 Billy's got a major penalty five minutes for being Billy

Speaker 10 For four months. I've been trying to get some kind of baseball passion out of him.

Speaker 1 I'm here if you want it.

Speaker 10 I thought I made clear I don't want it.

Speaker 10 I don't want anything from you baseball related at the moment.

Speaker 10 You've been a bit of a coward publicly. You don't want people to see that you care about the Marlins.
You've been hiding in plain sight, that it hurts. You don't give us anything.
They go 4-11.

Speaker 10 Their season falls apart. You don't give us the pain of that.

Speaker 3 It falls apart, but they've only lost a half game in that wildcard race. How about Maximo Acosta's first home run?

Speaker 10 But it's just trying to get some content out of him with a crowbar, and it's on the Marlins.

Speaker 10 It's the one he cares about, and he gives me nothing there as well when he could be a real Marlins expert because he actually care. It's the only thing he cares about.

Speaker 10 Chris, honest to God, if I say to you, Billy cares more, Marlins or Dolphins, what's the answer to that?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Marlins, I think, is his number one.

Speaker 1 I would agree with you.

Speaker 4 His kids, his kids, and then the Marlins.

Speaker 10 I disagree. The kids have made him third place in his own household.
When he goes to a Marlins game, Billy matters. People see Billy as a Marlins fan.

Speaker 10 Billy walks

Speaker 10 FIU campus and Marlins game are the place that Billy matters the most in town.

Speaker 5 Pause up.

Speaker 10 They love and respect him. He's a celebrity over there.
He looks down his nose at the baseball nerd fixing the Marlins.

Speaker 10 What just happened in the other room? What is happening with our

Speaker 10 toy department?

Speaker 5 Zaz's hair.

Speaker 5 What do you mean?

Speaker 5 Zaz's in the hair. Oh, his hair floor.
Is that Zaz's hair locker? Zaz has a hair locker? I mean exposed.

Speaker 5 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 Look away. What a tragedy.
Look away. Oh, his hair is just a girl.
No. No.

Speaker 5 What a tragedy. Take my hair.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 How embarrassing.

Speaker 10 What a public. I cannot believe that happened live in front of people.
What a shame.

Speaker 10 Zaszlo was confusing Nick Wright and others into thinking that his look was hair, but no, there's his box of hair right there. Nick Wright, is that really how Zaszlo looks?

Speaker 10 Nick Wright is feuding again with Pablo Torre. He is infuriated that Pablo Torre just, he did something where he, I guess he tagged the Peabody's on a crossword puzzle the other day.

Speaker 5 What a dork.

Speaker 5 What a dork. He tagged the Peabody's on a crossword puzzle.

Speaker 10 It is strange what Pablo is doing. He's like become the personification of what all the blue check marks used to be for liberal elite media.
And it's like, he's just the face of I will condescend to

Speaker 5 do it. Obviously, I do too.

Speaker 10 It's just funny to see him morph and to see the future thing that's going to get weaponized because he'll beat you to death with his crossword puzzles and the Peabody trophies.

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Speaker 5 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 10 While there's nothing official and conversations are still ongoing, was that a fake chef dirt?

Speaker 5 Because it was pretty good. It was excellent.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's legs.

Speaker 10 I tried at the beginning and then I lost confidence in it. Wow.

Speaker 5 It was good. It was good.
You got this. There's nothing official.

Speaker 5 And conversations are still ongoing.

Speaker 10 Stugats. It is trending towards Nick Siriani remaining the head coach of the Eagles.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 10 That was an act of rebellion by Billy that has no place in a Thursday. You guys are in agreement on this? Like, that's some Wednesday shit.

Speaker 10 That's Wednesday going to his head, is what's happening there. And now he can't be controlled because he's a renegade.

Speaker 5 Wait, are those his hands? Just chopped off my boner. We were talking about Cameron Ward fighting with a defensive title.

Speaker 10 So how was that covered? And do you guys have any historical perspective for me? On, I thought we all understood you don't fight with the quarterback, not Simmons, not anybody.

Speaker 5 But here's the thing: we talked about this last week. Me and Zaza were talking about it.
I think Mike was here. You want a quarterback that's going to get out there and fight.

Speaker 5 That's what I like. I like a dog.
Michael Penix also last week fought with somebody else on the other team, but was part of a scuffle.

Speaker 5 I want my quarterback, kind of like our men and women in uniform, running towards the battle. I don't want my quarterback running back from the battle.
Sometimes starting the battle. Exactly right.

Speaker 5 That's what I like.

Speaker 10 Okay, so when we examine how good these people are or aren't, Arch Manning, I cannot remember a prospect that was coming in with this kind of expectation.

Speaker 10 Ed Orgeron was just on the Pardon My Take podcast, and he was asked if he could coach anyone in college football. He said, Arch is as close to or maybe as good as Joe Burrow that I've ever seen.

Speaker 10 I've never said that about anyone else.

Speaker 12 But has he seen it?

Speaker 5 At that position, I would agree.

Speaker 1 And say it about Andrew Luck.

Speaker 5 Last year, there was someone with a lot of hoopla. Like, say what you will about Arch Manning.
Go on. In high school, no one's saying this could be the greatest quarterback of all time.

Speaker 5 And no one is even saying he could be the greatest quarterback in his family. Everyone admits that he's great, but there's a long road there.

Speaker 5 Jeremiah Smith in high school, people were saying this could be the greatest wide receiver of all time. And dude lived up to it.

Speaker 5 To the Joe Burrow point, like, you didn't really know Joe Burrow until he burst on the scene, right? Like, he played at Ohio State. He had to leave.

Speaker 5 Like, he didn't really have a college resume either. And then he won the high research research.

Speaker 10 But the Joe Burrow examination, to me, as someone who can have some difficulty accurately telling you who's going to be good at the position, the thing that became confusing to me about Joe Burrow is he was surrounded by the best roster I've ever seen.

Speaker 10 So I'd already seen that once with Ken Dorsey. Ken Dorsey was not a professional quarterback.

Speaker 10 He was made to look like a very cool, great college quarterback because all over the place he had advantages that no other team in the sport had. Orgeron's burrow team was so good,

Speaker 10 the best I've ever seen. That's the best football team I've ever seen.
I couldn't separate, well, is Joe Burrow that good or are they making that game that easy for him?

Speaker 10 And then he gets to the pros and he also makes it look that easy.

Speaker 5 With one of the same receivers, but yeah, Joe Burrow, very clearly great. I can't watch old Ken Dorsey games.

Speaker 15 It's so bad, Dan.

Speaker 5 It ruins my childhood.

Speaker 5 Dude. Don't hold up.
It is so much worse than you think. It's not what I remember at all.
We were saying, throw him a medicine ball back there. Anytime it's on at the sandbar, I'm like, yikes.

Speaker 5 Can't watch this. Really?

Speaker 5 Ken Dorsey had no arm.

Speaker 10 It was not a professional arm. Steven Morris had a much better arm.

Speaker 10 Ken Dorsey was throwing, he was throwing a shot butt to Clinton Portis and Willis McGahy and Andre Johnson.

Speaker 5 Big old vascular.

Speaker 10 Jeremy Schockey.

Speaker 5 Like, it's all first-round picks at every position.

Speaker 10 And your quarterback is just throwing a small medicine ball in a seven-yard out. I'm so happy.
Andre Johnson is open by 17 yards.

Speaker 5 You really want to get me excited? Talk about this quarterback we got right now.

Speaker 5 Real good.

Speaker 10 Better fall camp. All right, so wait a minute.
So you're doing Carson Beck. You are now going to do Carson.

Speaker 12 I just said better fall camp than Cam.

Speaker 10 Okay, so wait a minute.

Speaker 5 Yes. Hold on.

Speaker 5 Oh, wait. This is where the guy that didn't go to fall camp either year tells me that I'm wrong.

Speaker 10 The only reason I'm going to ask you to hold on is because

Speaker 10 while I voted for Cam Ward for the Heisman last year, in my experience, only Vinny Testoverdi in the history of that position at the University of Miami, not even Jim Kelly, only Vinny Testoverdi at that position in my history had I looked at and said, oh my God, that team is only good because that guy is a professional talent.

Speaker 10 Obviously, Vinnie Testaverdi had a bunch of talent around him, but I don't know. Like, Cam Ward had some, but that team was good because Cam Ward was obviously a professional player.

Speaker 10 It's something I've never seen at the position at the University of Miami, not even with Vinny Testaverti, not even with Vinny, who had a professional skill set and was number one.

Speaker 5 100% agreed, Dan, I think he's the best player that Miami has had in their program since Sean Taylor.

Speaker 10 And it was recognizable to me, and this is not something I've experienced very much either. 36 years watching in this market University of Miami football.

Speaker 10 As soon as I saw him, I'm like, oh my God, first game. Oh, that's a pro.

Speaker 10 Those are all pro throws. He is rolling around back in the pocket.
He's way too relaxed back there. He's got this all under control.

Speaker 10 I don't think I'm going to see that from Arch Manning. Do you think you're going to see that from Arch Manning?

Speaker 10 Like, you think you're going to see in the first game a professional skill set against Ohio State that tells you immediately, oh, one of the best prospects I've ever seen?

Speaker 5 Yes, I do, with Arch Manning. I don't think he's going to play the game like Cameron Ward did.
I think very few players are capable of playing the game like Cameron Ward did.

Speaker 5 Cameron Ward's a bit of an artist. And when I say Carson Beck has had a better fall camp than Cameron Ward, because it's a bit of a rhetorical trick.
Cameron Ward didn't have the greatest fall camp.

Speaker 5 He was kind of messing around and trying stuff out. It was only until like install for Florida that we kind of realized, okay, this is the guy that we had here in spring.

Speaker 5 But Cameron Ward approaches the game in different ways. Cameron Ward was always running for his life at every other stop that he was ever at.
So he had one of the better offensive lines in the nation.

Speaker 5 And rather than just play the game conventionally like he had been or waiting to the last second to make checks at the line because his blocking was so bad, Dude just took the the opportunity to improvise, drop way back in the pocket, and he had the arm to show it off.

Speaker 10 Would you do me the favor, please, Chris Cody, of finding for me the ruling,

Speaker 10 the judge

Speaker 10 stuff that brings Zaszlo's weightiest pronouncements? Because I'd like a ruling from Zaszlo. I'm going to have to change, I think, out of respect for Cameron Ward, his wishes, and his family's wishes.

Speaker 10 I'm going to have to stop calling him Cam Ward, but it's going to take me a minute because it's super easy. It's how I've been saying it.
I'm an old person. I don't want to change my ways.

Speaker 10 And the two syllables, I like it better. Cam Ward, they're inconveniencing me with changing his name on me when I've gotten used to it as Cam Warden.

Speaker 10 So I'd like a ruling from Zaslow as a judge on how long I'm allowed to get this wrong because I don't want to be disrespectful.

Speaker 10 If he wants to.

Speaker 10 If his mama calls him Cameron, I'm going to call him Cameron.

Speaker 5 That's literally what happened.

Speaker 10 And so I've got to do that, I think, but I'm not sure. And how long before I start getting penalized for it? Because I'm being disrespectful if I don't make the change because he wants me to.

Speaker 10 But I had trouble like Mark Superduper, when he wanted to change his name to Super Duper, it took me a minute. Ocho Cinco, when he did that professionally, it took me a minute.

Speaker 10 I don't get there right away. I've been calling him Cam Ward.
So Zaszlo, can I get a ruling here, please?

Speaker 1 All rise, the Honorable Jonathan Zaslow, now presiding with Prejudice.

Speaker 12 So the question at hand is,

Speaker 12 are you to be penalized for not calling him Cameron Ward?

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 12 He's been called Cam Ward his entire collegiate career. He gets drafted number one overall by the Titans.

Speaker 12 Now he wants to be called a whole new name. Cameron Ward.

Speaker 5 My ruling.

Speaker 12 There will be no penalty for continuing to call him Cam Ward. Forgiveable.

Speaker 12 With prejudice. Forgiven.
Okay. Because, like you said there, all right, there have been other players who then changed their name.
Ocho Cinco,

Speaker 12 even Giancarlo Stanton. But that was after

Speaker 15 they were established stars.

Speaker 12 Cam Ward does not get to change his name when he hasn't even played a game yet.

Speaker 10 No, no, no. How many games does he have to play before he can change his name?

Speaker 12 He can play as many games as he wants, but if he sucks, you're not changing your name. He has to be good.
You got to prove something. If I'm going to acknowledge a name change.

Speaker 5 Really?

Speaker 12 Yeah, like you remember when Henry Walker was playing for the Heat and all of a sudden he wanted to be called Bill? Nah, player. You're Henry Walker.
And I never called him Bill.

Speaker 12 So the answer is you will not be Peter Walker.

Speaker 10 I don't remember that, actually.

Speaker 10 Thank you for remembering it as a two-time champion, Broadcast.

Speaker 5 I think he has it switched. I think his name was Bill Walker and he wanted to be called Henry.
That's exactly the point. And we were like, wait a second, you're Bill.

Speaker 10 Exactly the point. Forgive it.

Speaker 5 He hit a game winner against the magic and I was like, you can be called whatever you want now. Not on my court.

Speaker 3 William Henry Walker, previously known as Bill Walker, then became Henry Walker.

Speaker 10 You know what? I'm not understanding this path. I don't understand this whole path.

Speaker 10 You just brought up one of the most subscure memories in the history of South Florida, and it's one of the most wonderful as well, where Henry insisted on being called Bill. And this is just

Speaker 10 a half hour from Jeremy reporting and Chris reporting that we have our first Bob in Major League Base.

Speaker 10 In 15 years, I don't remember this controversy. It's a wonderful controversy.
We should get Henry on and ask him if he's Bill.

Speaker 3 I'll call him Henry right to his face.

Speaker 15 You're Henry player.

Speaker 5 You remember that game winner, though? I do. That was electric.
It's cool. I was like, yeah, Henry.

Speaker 12 That was awesome.

Speaker 15 How do you feel about like Steve Smith, who then wanted to be known as Steve Smith Sr.?

Speaker 12 Nah, nah.

Speaker 5 Oh.

Speaker 12 Nah, nah.

Speaker 10 Prejudice.

Speaker 10 Randy Scott's mustache on Sports Center is totally ridiculous.

Speaker 10 He is being somebody. What do you shaking your head know about? Our friend, Randy Scott.

Speaker 4 It draws attention.

Speaker 5 I love Randy.

Speaker 15 Randy Scott loves you guys.

Speaker 5 He's a great guy. A great guy.
I still text with him. Same.

Speaker 5 You're still holding on to that. That's all right.
You're a legacy cast member. You're entitled to think he sucks and want him fired.

Speaker 5 The mustache is drawing attention to the obvious hair dye situation that we have here going on. Which he admits to.

Speaker 4 He doesn't hide that. Yeah, but

Speaker 5 the shade.

Speaker 5 Let's go medium brown.

Speaker 5 Medium brown is fine.

Speaker 4 Pops like the mustache makes it pop more. I'm with Mike on this.

Speaker 10 Okay, I believe that you guys are not getting Randy Scott's sense of humor here.

Speaker 10 I believe Randy Scott is looking funny on television and making fun of himself and what he does for a living with a real comedian's grace.

Speaker 15 Nah, he's a dumb-dumb. He's not that aware.

Speaker 10 And I also believe, though, that when he offered up the vulnerability on Sports Center, that he takes a nap immediately after cutting his own lawn, it is one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard.

Speaker 5 What, without washing?

Speaker 10 No, without...

Speaker 5 That's the whole thing.

Speaker 10 Yes, no. Taking a nap after

Speaker 10 cutting your lawn, I understand being that tired. Not showering after cutting your lawn.

Speaker 12 He's got like the blades of grass all over him?

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's taking a nap after that.

Speaker 10 That's crazy talk.

Speaker 12 It is crazy that he mows his own lawn.

Speaker 1 Randy and Gary Streisky are the best duo doing sports center.

Speaker 5 I agree 100%.

Speaker 5 It's just a damn shame he decided to go the same shade as Marco Rubio.

Speaker 10 I wanted to ask you guys off of Sports Center, and I thought it was really cool. It was nice to watch Rich Eisen make his return.

Speaker 10 I was legitimately stunned that he hadn't done a Sports Center in 22 years that longer than our show's been around has been rich eisen not doing sports center uh that time period confused me well like you would have thought he would have made a guest appearance at some point i i did not think that rich eisen had left espn 23 years ago that time went by very quickly our show has not existed long enough to encapsulate that time so i was just stunned that his return to Sports Center had taken 23 years.

Speaker 10 He never expected it, obviously. But it got me to thinking, Sports Center has been that franchise's signature content epicenter forever.
It's the most important thing there.

Speaker 10 It is their jewel of how it is that they connect with their public. It has been protected.

Speaker 10 It is a wonderful jewel, one of the most enduring things there's ever been in the history of sports or entertainment. But we don't need highlights anymore that way.

Speaker 10 And so you've got Scott Van Pelt over here, and it's hard to make a noise with your anchor because people aren't really gathered around the television to watch television sports highlights anymore.

Speaker 10 But Eisen

Speaker 10 and Scott Van Pelt have a genuine audience connection somewhere in the place where Corso has it, where it makes your corporation stronger because the people inside of the community are people who take their audience with them and have an audience that cares about the totality of their personality.

Speaker 10 And so it's really cool to see Sports Center morph into something

Speaker 10 that needs individuals more than the individuals need need Sports Center. Because it seems to me that right now it's pretty disposable outside of a couple of people there, right?

Speaker 10 All the anchors are interchangeable. They're professionals, but that's sort of an outdated way of doing media business.
I thought of this the other day.

Speaker 10 You guys got all excited on the local radio stuff when we were talking about it. I saw just an announcement that G-Money was headed back to evenings on Y-100.
And I'm like, what does that mean?

Speaker 5 Glenn Rice is doing evenings?

Speaker 12 I didn't even know he was doing radio.

Speaker 10 I'm like, what does that mean that Y-100 still has evenings in the middle of the night?

Speaker 15 What happened to Michael Yo?

Speaker 5 He's doing Kanes content now. Really? Yeah, he's doing something with Dono.

Speaker 15 How's Mama Yo doing?

Speaker 5 I don't know. Oh.

Speaker 6 Where's Elvis Duran?

Speaker 5 Still national. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Froggy, though, somehow, has joins the national show remotely on Y-100. It's weird.
You want to do local radio talk? I'm your guy. Here we go.
You know, Power 96 is now throwbacks.

Speaker 5 They're throwback jams.

Speaker 15 It's just the same catalog of songs.

Speaker 5 They still do the power hour, though, right?

Speaker 15 I don't think so.

Speaker 12 It's like there are no more DJs?

Speaker 5 You saw the midday shake-up? And Y-100. I'm still there, don't worry.
Like Gringa Maslatina. Yeah.
Kimarie switched over to English language, now doing middays over at Y100.

Speaker 6 High-line owner.

Speaker 15 I saw that. Yeah, she's one of your rivals.
Hey, speaking of Highlight, wasn't your draft the other day?

Speaker 5 I'm feeling good about it. Mike, fist me.
I'll fist you right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fissed us, Dan.
Look, we brought back Bueno. We got him in the draft.
Inyaki and Malanu, you know that they were frozen. But check this out.

Speaker 5 We had a tough decision to make. Do we go Arats or unda?

Speaker 15 What would you do, Dan?

Speaker 5 We took the unda.

Speaker 5 Solely based off of marketing because we want to play the unda takea.

Speaker 5 Or take the unda. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, take the undaunted.

Speaker 5 Tonight, you have to face the unda takea player.

Speaker 4 We also have Stan, who we made fun of last year.

Speaker 5 Hey, we have Sam. I don't think he's so thrilled about being a back order, but Stan's there.

Speaker 4 But Billy, you've been critical, Billy. Manu, I'm telling you, we've been doing this song and dance with Manu for a few years now.
Bunch of different drafts.

Speaker 4 You can always tell by the look in Manu's eye how he feels about the team. The last few, he's been not happy.

Speaker 5 This one, he likes our squad. He likes our squad.
I'm telling you. Hi, Row.

Speaker 11 We're back.

Speaker 4 And this is actually the last season at Magic City. So we started Magic City.

Speaker 5 Shutting it down. Bigger things.
Bigger, bigger, bigger companies.

Speaker 14 Like High Mark Stadium.

Speaker 4 So we were the first season at Magic City. We won.

Speaker 14 Guess what we're going to do?

Speaker 11 Bookend it.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah. Bookend it.

Speaker 5 You excited? Where's it going next? Can't wait to spend my 40th birthday there.

Speaker 10 Have you guys considered the idea of just like changing Manu's name to Henry or Bill to make it something that can reach more people locally?

Speaker 12 Not in my courtroom.

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