#BecauseMiami: Booze, Lies & Videotapes

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Speaker 12 Assistant State Attorney Laura Adams told a judge this morning that the state has added a new charge of manslaughter against developer George Pino.

Speaker 13 On behalf of Mr.

Speaker 14 Pino, we will enter our plea of not guilty and staying on all the previously filed pleadings in this case.

Speaker 12 This is now an addition to the felony charge he was already facing of vessel homicide.

Speaker 12 Pino was operating a boat on Labor Day weekend nearly three years ago when it slammed into a channel marker near Boca Chita Key. 17-year-old Lucy Fernandez was killed.

Speaker 12 Her friend Katy Boyg was left with permanent injuries. I guess when it hit a ways, Pino's daughter and 11 other teen girls were on that boat.

Speaker 16 Booze, lies, and videotape.

Speaker 18 What seemed to be a tragic accident has turned into what could be one one of the most surreal, sordid, and scandalous cover-ups in the history of the Miami criminal justice system.

Speaker 16 And it has torn the town apart.

Speaker 23 George Pino is a real estate mogul, very prominent, very successful.

Speaker 23 His daughter was celebrating her 18th birthday, senior at Lourdes, Our Lady of Lourdes, a very elite, prominent, Catholic girls' school. A lot of the Miami royalty sends their daughters there.
there.

Speaker 24 They went to their vacation home in Ocean Reef, a very luxurious, exclusive club in the Florida Keys

Speaker 27 where they went out on their boat.

Speaker 24 George Pino, his wife, their daughter, about a dozen of her girlfriends and classmates, all about 17 years old, most seniors, starting their senior year at Lourdes in September of 2022, almost exactly three years ago, when his 29-foot Robalo, a kind of center console, like fishing style boat, crashed right into a stationary metal mile marker, killing Lucy Fernandez, 17, severely injuring several other girls, including Katarina Puegue, who is permanently brain damaged, and obviously tearing a whole lot of families to pieces.

Speaker 24 But what happened when the FWC came in is where this all goes dangerously awry.

Speaker 15 This so-called investigation appears to be either the work of pure incompetence or utter and total corruption in what we know in Miami as the Friends and Family Plan here.

Speaker 34 You can guess what that means. We talked about it before.

Speaker 22 Joel Denaro is a Miami criminal defense attorney, and he represents Lucy Fernandez's family, her parents.

Speaker 24 And Joel, I got to start there.

Speaker 25 Why do the, does the family, the parents of the victim in this tragedy, need a criminal defense attorney?

Speaker 34 How does that happen?

Speaker 11 Hey, Billy, how are you? Thank you for having me. Andy Fernandez and I have been good friends since we began work together at the Public Defender's Office.

Speaker 11 And so, you know, we went to each other's weddings. We're good friends.
Our wives are friends. So on September 4th, 2022,

Speaker 11 when the news alert came across my phone and it said that my friend's daughter, Lucy, may have died in this devastating boating accident, the report also said that there was another boat involved and that George Pino was traveling to Ocean Reef and he lost control of his boat because he hit the larger boat's wave and then that other boat left the scene.

Speaker 11 So,

Speaker 11 you know, seeing this alert and seeing this news, obviously it was devastating. My friend's daughter has been killed, but I became very angry, obviously.

Speaker 11 And I think everyone's anger was directed toward the other boat that the reports say, and even other reports after that, were claiming that there was another boat that had caused this accident and then had left everyone

Speaker 11 for dead, essentially. So obviously, when you have such tragedy like that,

Speaker 11 you know, I obviously went to the funeral and was supportive. It's a very, very difficult thing.

Speaker 11 I get a call from my friend Andy eight months later after the FWC report was finished.

Speaker 11 And in the FWC report, it says actually there was no other boat and that they were going to recommend that they charge George Pino with careless homicide and careless injury to Catalina Puy.

Speaker 20 To be clear, Joel, the FWC is the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

Speaker 19 These are game wardens.

Speaker 20 Who are these guys and what are they doing out there investigating a homicide?

Speaker 11 Well, you know, there's Metro Dade out there also, and there's FWC and FWC. It is my understanding that FWC just assumed

Speaker 11 control and took the lead on the investigation. But I think they investigate the boating homicides on the water.
I think that's one of their functions. For me,

Speaker 11 as you introduced me, yes, I am a criminal defense attorney. I've never been a victim advocate before.
And my friend Andy asked me

Speaker 11 if he could come over with his wife. Of course, they came over and they said, look, Joel, we just want to know if we're crazy.
You know, we just don't feel right about this.

Speaker 11 Because

Speaker 26 to be clear, Joel, so first thing you learn is that there was, this is a ghost boat.

Speaker 24 Whatever boat that that George Pino was talking about, that cut him off, that created a wake, that moved his boat into this metal

Speaker 30 mile marker, didn't exist, number one.

Speaker 19 And number two,

Speaker 24 they're saying charge him with a misdemeanor, basically a slap on the wrist, a parking ticket.

Speaker 38 And

Speaker 24 so these are two pretty significant pieces of information.

Speaker 20 What did they think happened?

Speaker 26 Do they think Pino lied about the boat?

Speaker 11 All right. So there's two questions there.

Speaker 11 They charged George Pino with three second-degree misdemeanors. So each misdemeanor is punishable by 60 days in jail.
He has no criminal priors.

Speaker 11 And did the family think that there was no other boat? There was no other boat. George Pino struck mile marker, channel marker 15.

Speaker 11 And so what we learn is, is that this story about the other boat took place in front of channel marker 14.

Speaker 11 And unbeknownst to anyone, there was a camera affixed to channel marker 14 pointing north towards miami a smuggling camera basically right it was an alien smuggling camera and no one knew it was there and uh when they checked the camera uh there was there was no evidence of any other boat so that was contained in the fwc report and when i saw it um you know my first thought was

Speaker 11 how is he not being charged with something related to fabricating a boat, a phantom boat?

Speaker 11 You know, false information during the investigation of a crime came to mind, obstruction of justice.

Speaker 39 But none of those were charged.

Speaker 38 And wasn't there addition, was there GPS data from his boat as well that disproved his ghost boat theory?

Speaker 11 The GPS on the boat has cookies. So each, after each time you use your boat, it shows you your route.
And his route showed him driving straight into

Speaker 11 channel marker 15.

Speaker 36 Right.

Speaker 20 So no, no, so nothing pushed him that way. Nothing diverted him that way.

Speaker 24 He wasn't thrust or diverted.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 11 No evasive

Speaker 11 movements as he described

Speaker 11 to FWC. I believe he said he saw the wake rather than decelerating.

Speaker 11 increased his speed from 45 miles an hour, I believe, to 48 miles an hour.

Speaker 11 And he says that he turned left and then he turned right and lost control of the steering and struck the channel marker, which caused the boat to capsize.

Speaker 11 Everyone on the boat was thrown off the boat, including himself.

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Speaker 25 Joel, there's three words in this report that took eight months to write, which I imagine would mean it was an extensively investigated report.

Speaker 24 The investigator from Florida Wild, from FWC interviewed all the witnesses and everybody involved and found that there was no alcohol involved.

Speaker 26 I want to roll this clip.

Speaker 41 Investigators did not believe alcohol was a factor, despite finding 61 empty alcoholic bottles and cans on board, along with one empty champagne bottle and another half-consumed bottle of liquor.

Speaker 41 Pino, who was celebrating his teenage daughter's birthday with her and her friends and his wife, declined a voluntary blood draw.

Speaker 23 No liquor involved or no alcohol involved, and yet what you heard at the end there was George Pino audio from a body cam video where he admits to having two beers.

Speaker 22 He admits to drinking.

Speaker 32 FWC found, once they flipped this capsized boat back over right side again, all of this booze in a trash can on the boat, the empty booze containers, over 60 of them.

Speaker 9 Joel, what happened?

Speaker 26 How is there no alcohol involved in a report

Speaker 26 when this guy was on a boat full of booze?

Speaker 11 So when Andy and Mellie came to my house, they had actually,

Speaker 11 Lucy's aunt is the real hero in all of this because when she saw the FWC report, she wrote her own report. It must have taken her

Speaker 11 a thousand hours. And she went through all the body cam footage.
So that footage that you just played where he is admitting to having two beers appears nowhere in the FWC report.

Speaker 11 In the FWC report, and it comes up in the context of when they give him the opportunity

Speaker 11 to have his blood drawn

Speaker 11 rather than forcing the blood drawn. His reason for that, which is stated in the FWC report, is that his lawyer is not present.
But when Vanessa, Lucy's aunt, went through all of the body cam footage,

Speaker 11 she came across that footage from the lead detective Thompson's body cam footage where he admits to drinking. So to say that drinking is not involved,

Speaker 11 well, he, by his own admission, says that he has two beers. Of course, the 61 beer cans and the empty bottle of champagne.
Those were all supposedly found the day after.

Speaker 11 And then, of course, we learn evidence.

Speaker 11 Well, I shouldn't say that. At 1.30 a.m.,

Speaker 11 at 1.30 a.m., Katarina Puig has her blood drawn. And at 1.30 a.m., we know that she is a 0.014 four hours after striking the channel marker.

Speaker 26 So she's still nearly like twice the legal limit hours later.

Speaker 31 That's how much she had to drink.

Speaker 23 This is a teenage, 17-year-old girl.

Speaker 11 Well,

Speaker 11 this is a star soccer player. This is probably the best high school female soccer player in the state, yes.

Speaker 11 And look, we know that kids drink. You know, we know that in Miami, it's a hard charging town.

Speaker 11 Kids, I'm not passing judgment, of course, on any of that, but I'm just saying to say that there's no alcohol involved isn't true.

Speaker 26 Why didn't they draw blood?

Speaker 33 They have a dead girl on the scene.

Speaker 24 They've got multiple victims being airlifted with severe injuries.

Speaker 26 They didn't need probable cause.

Speaker 24 They had probable cause, it seems, based on all of the evidence we now have from the testimony of the individual investigators.

Speaker 24 Bloodshot eyes, he smells like, I mean, he was clearly, I mean, or seemed to them to be impaired.

Speaker 11 Well, Billy, let me just cut you up. That comes, the bloodshot eyes, the smell of alcohol, all of that comes much later.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 26 But it was that night, though, Joel.

Speaker 39 When you say it comes later, you learn about it later.

Speaker 11 No, but none of that stuff made the report. So

Speaker 5 why not?

Speaker 11 Right. Well, Thompson says that he saw no indicia of impairment.

Speaker 11 What happens is, you know, normally in these criminal cases, they don't get better with time. Over time,

Speaker 11 cases usually get are denigrated.

Speaker 11 But here,

Speaker 11 this is different because over time, we learn that Thompson's report leaves out what his

Speaker 11 partner that night observed. What do I mean?

Speaker 11 Sort of at the moment of truth when Thompson is sitting down with George Pino and they're at Elliott Key now. They've triaged it.
Elliott Key is sitting in a picnic table.

Speaker 11 And Thompson asks Officer Gazzola, and they're from the same organization, FWC. And Thompson tells Gazzola, Officer Gazzola, listen, I got to take a few phone calls.

Speaker 11 I want you to sit and observe Pinot while I take these phone calls. Okay, no problem.
Two and a half years after the accident, his deposition is taken.

Speaker 11 For those in the audience who don't know what a deposition is, it's a sworn statement that we're allowed to take in criminal cases.

Speaker 11 And he's an officer who was listed as a witness.

Speaker 11 So he's being deposed, and it must have come as a huge surprise to everyone because he tells a story about how his partner told him to watch Pinot, but that he observes Pinot with bloodshot eyes.

Speaker 11 He says he's disoriented, and he says he smells like alcohol. And then he says he tells Officer Thompson this when he returns from his phone calls.

Speaker 11 So how that didn't make it into the report or questions for these officers.

Speaker 26 So that would all be probable cause to draw blood, to check his blood alcohol level.

Speaker 33 But my understanding is FWC policy is that when you have an accident this severe, with the kind of injuries and death, in fact, involved, you don't need probable cause, basically.

Speaker 37 Just under those circumstances, you draw blood. It's part of the standard investigation.

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, I mean, an example of that is a recent tragedy that took place,

Speaker 11 the Miami sailing tragedy, the little girls with the tugboat on the tugboat ran into the catamaran and and that case looks to have been taken over by the coast guard

Speaker 11 the admiral gave a quote the herald and said that we owe it to the public

Speaker 11 we owe it to the public and they took his blood and i don't think there was any indication of of uh impairment but you're right uh their own the fwc's policy is death or great bodily injury you draw blood it's not an option do do we do we know who thompson was talking to on the phone in the middle of this homicide investigation?

Speaker 11 I don't,

Speaker 11 but you know, he had body camera on as well. So I don't know if it's on his body camera.
I do know that Vanessa

Speaker 11 brings up in her counter report that the officers were turning body camera on and off. That should be known.

Speaker 11 And I think it will be. I think it will be known.

Speaker 31 Let's talk about the body camera for a moment.

Speaker 11 Come sit down for me, Mr. Pino.

Speaker 43 What did additional FWC officer-worn body camera footage document? The 2022 night George Pino crashed a boat, killing one teenager and permanently disabling another?

Speaker 43 We don't know because FWC in a statement says video from at least two officers was deleted after a set retention period because of how the officers labeled it, categorizing them as incidental because they were not lead officers on the case.

Speaker 30 As it turns out, there is at least that we know of four body cams from four different FWC officers on the scene that were deleted.

Speaker 38 Okay, one, Joel, oopsie-daisy.

Speaker 24 Two, okay, they were poorly trained or untrained. They didn't know the policy.

Speaker 31 They didn't properly check off the right box to preserve.

Speaker 30 Three, four.

Speaker 25 I mean,

Speaker 5 what is happening here?

Speaker 16 Where is this evidence going in this homicide investigation?

Speaker 11 Well, five. Actually, five, because all of the footage from the alien smuggling

Speaker 11 camera affixed to channel marker 14,

Speaker 11 which would conclusively prove that there was no other boat.

Speaker 11 That's missing also.

Speaker 37 They deleted all of this evidence, this video recording and photographic evidence in this case.

Speaker 22 What the hell is going on here?

Speaker 37 Is this an investigation or was this a cover-up from the jump?

Speaker 17 I've seen officers give sobriety tests or draw blood with much less indicia, if that was the term that you used, or evidence of impairment.

Speaker 20 Like, what was going on here, Joel?

Speaker 11 The three-hour

Speaker 11 investigation, that three-hour period from the time that Pino struck the channel marker till the time that they decide that they're not going to

Speaker 11 take his blood and force draw his blood, was the real problem with this case. I don't think that FWC

Speaker 11 did

Speaker 11 a proper investigation. Why do I say that? When When I got involved with the case, let me just be clear and clear up some misconceptions.

Speaker 11 Number one, we've never asked for George Pino to be charged with a felony.

Speaker 11 When I got involved with the case, after looking at everything, the only thing I really saw

Speaker 11 was

Speaker 11 that we could,

Speaker 11 where we had any

Speaker 11 real argument after the report that I read from FWC, after the decision to file misdemeanors. I think that the state was sort of handcuffed by the investigation.
I know they've taken

Speaker 11 some blame for this, but I really think that people have to understand that

Speaker 11 state attorneys are different from U.S. attorneys.
U.S. attorneys send out FBI agents to do investigations.

Speaker 11 We have so many crimes in this community that the state attorney's office relies on the officers to do the investigation. So they were presented

Speaker 11 really an investigation where once they decided not to draw blood, we'll never really

Speaker 11 know if he was under the influence or not.

Speaker 11 How could we know? We know that Gozzola says that he smelled like alcohol. We know that

Speaker 11 he said he was disoriented. We know that he said that he seemed almost like disinterested.
At times, you have the deposition. But once that decision is made, we're sort of

Speaker 11 left guessing. Where I do find fault is

Speaker 11 when this case begun and I went to the original state attorney who was taken off the case

Speaker 11 and I asked for,

Speaker 11 you know, file false information during a felony investigation.

Speaker 11 My clients were so greatly offended by what they told me was George Pino going into the community and blaming another boat months and months and months after the accident.

Speaker 11 It's not just he made up that there was a boat on that night. He filed, his lawyers filed a federal pleading before Judge Jose Martinez

Speaker 11 saying in great detail that there was another boat. He's amended those statements in other

Speaker 11 forms as well. We don't know what he said to the insurance company, but we just know, and that my family said, Joel, he's going around telling everyone there was another boat.
And

Speaker 11 those are fighting words.

Speaker 11 You have a tragedy like this, and another man

Speaker 11 is saying that another boat is at least partially responsible for this, and we know it not to be a fact. Well, like I said,

Speaker 11 those are fighting words. So

Speaker 11 I want it just cleared up that the family only wanted the truth. They only wanted the truth about the boat to come out and an admission by him that, look, there was no other vote.
I was scared.

Speaker 11 I was this, I was that.

Speaker 11 And that just hasn't come.

Speaker 39 Last question before we go.

Speaker 30 Just last week, the charges were upgraded to manslaughter, an additional felony.

Speaker 25 What happened?

Speaker 24 What have we learned through the depositions that has led to these new charges?

Speaker 11 Well, they stopped. We used to get the depositions.
So I haven't seen the new depositions. They used to file the depositions with the clerk's office.

Speaker 11 But I think that that was becoming sort of too prejudicial with all the coverage that was going on.

Speaker 11 But my understanding is that they've been taking the depositions of some of the young ladies who were involved. And

Speaker 11 I mean, the state already knew that

Speaker 11 Catty Puig was a 0.014, but apparently another young lady took her deposition and admitted to having

Speaker 11 Well, first of all, said that there was beer on the boat when she got on Mr. Pina's boat.
That's my understanding. And that she was drinking excessively.

Speaker 11 Look, vessel homicide and manslaughter are essentially both the same, almost the same thing.

Speaker 11 Vessel homicide is wanton and willful conduct while you're operating a boat, and this is just wanton and willful conduct causing death.

Speaker 11 So, you know, you can't get...

Speaker 11 They can't stack the sentence on it. But bottom line.
Now he's facing two felonies.

Speaker 30 But bottom line, Joe, what we understand now is that the booze was already on the boat when these teenage girls arrived.

Speaker 20 Many of them were drinking in excess.

Speaker 30 We know that not only from this newer testimony, but from the blood alcohol level of some of the other girls.

Speaker 31 And before we go, Lucy Fernandez, who perished in this accident, what was her blood alcohol level at the time of her death?

Speaker 11 Can I just say two things?

Speaker 11 Number one, her blood alcohol level was 0-0-0. She did not have any alcohol in her.

Speaker 11 But, you know, we've been talking about Kathy and this tragedy, and there is

Speaker 11 some good that has come out of this.

Speaker 11 And because of

Speaker 11 the efforts of Andy Fernandez and his beautiful wife, better half, Mellie Fernandez, there's a new state law.

Speaker 11 And it's called Lucy's Law, ensuring that her death and Kathy's injury will protect others in the future. And so

Speaker 11 that will sort of cement their legacy. And I think that that's a bright side

Speaker 11 and where this is evolved to. And I know the family is very, very proud of that.
And so I'd just like to end with that, if that's possible.

Speaker 25 Joel Donaro, thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 16 Good luck to you and the Fernandez family.

Speaker 11 Thank you. My pleasure.

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Speaker 24 It was certainly banned from YouTube.

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Speaker 20 On the other hand, I feel like it's probably

Speaker 39 educational.

Speaker 24 Well, no, I'm saying it's probably like a responsible decision on behalf of their government to be like, how about we're not going to distribute a crack cooking tutorial in our country?

Speaker 32 It seems fair.

Speaker 34 It's up to argue with that.

Speaker 35 And while you will only be able to see canceled the Paula Dean story so far at the Toronto International Film Festival, there's three screenings there if you go to tiff.net, t-if.net.

Speaker 24 But our new documentary, which you might remember world premiered last year at the Toronto International Film Festival, Men of War, is premiering on digital.

Speaker 24 It'll be available everywhere you get your movies or rent your movies, Apple, DirecTV,

Speaker 35 Amazon, everywhere.

Speaker 25 This one is about the 2020 attempted coup

Speaker 38 of Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela by a few former U.S.

Speaker 24 Green Berets that was hatched out of a we work here in Brickle in downtown Miami.

Speaker 44 Yeah, so not the coup that happened on January 6th. No?

Speaker 33 Not that one.

Speaker 24 This one is in Venezuela. Ah, yes.

Speaker 31 Kind of got memory hold in the pandemic.

Speaker 21 It was in 2020.

Speaker 28 It was shortly after then-President Donald Trump and his first administration had put a $15 million bounty on Nicolas Maduro's head.

Speaker 24 And these guys went in with some former Venezuelan military who had defected to Colombia.

Speaker 17 And they went over the border, and the media dubbed it the Bay of Piglets.

Speaker 36 It didn't turn out so well.

Speaker 32 In fact, two of the Green Berets were captured.

Speaker 27 One of them, his boat broke down on the way, the guy that helped to plot it.

Speaker 32 The other two were captured.

Speaker 23 They were sentenced to like 27 years in a tropical gulag in Venezuela for terrorism.

Speaker 24 The Biden administration, they negotiated their release.

Speaker 31 They were released before Christmas a couple Decembers ago.

Speaker 24 This documentary starts off as this kind of like almost Jason Bourne-esque political techno-thriller and then turns into a really, really

Speaker 19 more introspective

Speaker 24 portrait of a warrior, of an American war hero who was originally from Canada, but renounced his citizenship, became an American after 9-11, was in the military for like 17 years with like a dozen tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Speaker 24 And really, what happens when you get retired out of the only life you've ever known and the only work you've ever known and how these kind of like these you know gi joes and captain americas and gi janes we just kind of like

Speaker 24 toss them aside when governments are done playing with them and what do you do you plot a coup that is not the slogan of the movie although that would look good on the poster i think what do you do plot a coup so for our miami moment here is a clip from men of war in which Jordan Goudreau, this U.S.

Speaker 24 Green Beret turned mercenary, is bonding with with his Venezuelan soldiers and telling them that they are not going to try to coup Venezuela and overthrow Maduro.

Speaker 30 They are going to do it.

Speaker 13 I'm a soldier.

Speaker 15 And I was in the position to help.

Speaker 13 So, of course, I'm going to help you.

Speaker 15 And so, when I look in these soldiers' eyes in Venezuela, they're patriots, exiles from their country.

Speaker 1 And they say, you know, will you help us?

Speaker 13 What the f am I going to say? No.

Speaker 15 I mean, it's the motto of the special forces, the oppress au liber,

Speaker 14 free the oppressed.

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There will be no trying in this. We're not going to try to do this.
We are going to do this.

Speaker 15 This is going to succeed.

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