Local Hour: The Mount Rushmore of Memeable Quarterbacks

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Speaker 1 It's a Friday here. That means the weekend is here.
Everyone is excited. Everyone's in a great mood.
Except I keep having to spend more money on these goddamn apps. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 The weekend was here last weekend. Oh, my God.
Was it? It was here last weekend. Yeah.
But no E. Hard Rock.
Jeez. So Hawk, I don't know if you're aware, all right, but you got to have apps, all right?

Speaker 1 The apps are how we get all our entertainment. You got to have all the apps.
Okay. Yeah.
And for instance, you know, ESPN started their direct-to-consumer app that debuted yesterday. How was it?

Speaker 1 Well, actually, you'll notice if you you go onto the ESPN app like today, it's like different font. It's a little bit different.
I like it actually.

Speaker 1 But I have to upgrade, you know, the kind of ESPN app I have because WWE is starting on ESPN next month. And like, I got to make sure that I'm getting those shows.
I love Pro Wrestling. Okay.

Speaker 1 So yesterday, I had to

Speaker 1 get the new service, all right? Streaming, streaming services. I had to get the upgraded service on paying a little bit more money there.
I did that yesterday. And today,

Speaker 1 again, guys, on my way in, I'm on my way to work this morning. I got Spotify Hawk.
I put it on and just, it's nothing but rap music, which means my son is listening to Spotify in his car.

Speaker 1 I know where that was going. Is it Yachty again?

Speaker 1 Well, that was one of them at one point. Yeah, but it's all these.
I've never heard it. There's another one.
It's called Yeet. You know what that? Yeet, of course.
Hey, all right.

Speaker 1 He's listening to Yeet. Come on, man.
Come on. I don't know Yeet.
I know Yeet. I've heard he.
Talk to kids about Yeet.

Speaker 1 I get all my young rap information from Tony, actually. So, I mean, he's just flipping track to track to track because my son now drives to school and his first day at school was two days ago.

Speaker 1 You got to have a good song for that first drive in. So, this is a new thing where now this is disrupting my ride here because my son is hogging the Spotify.

Speaker 1 So, this morning I was like, I can't live like this.

Speaker 1 So, I upgraded the Spotify account that we have. And now, you know, I'm paying more for that so that we can separately use the Spotify at the same time.
That's messed up, man. I don't like it.

Speaker 1 I don't like where society is going. And I don't know how young our demographic of listeners is.
So I might be alienating the really, really young ones that are like old man talk,

Speaker 1 but I don't like it. I don't like it at all.
You know what? I had a, I was trying to watch Fourth and Long, which is the reality show I was on.

Speaker 1 Not to make this about me, but absolutely to make it about me. But the problem is, I bought it because I was on this reality show and I bought it, right? We We buy things and we own things.

Speaker 1 And then I went back to watch this thing that I bought. I think it was on Prime.
And because they decided to take it off, I no longer have access. And I sat there in fury of like, well, I bought it.

Speaker 1 I didn't rent it. I didn't like subscribe and get to watch and stream.
I bought it. The old days, you could buy it and have it.
for forever. Nothing is forever.

Speaker 1 And to your point, they will continue to drive the prices up on the apps because we don't own and have like finger touching anything, man.

Speaker 1 It's gotten to the point where it's just like all these apps out there. How about just here's my checking account? You let me know how much money I can keep.

Speaker 1 Like, that's I'm constantly paying for things. It's never ending.
Did you talk to

Speaker 1 money subscription?

Speaker 1 Is that what we're signing up for with crypto?

Speaker 1 Depends. If XRP is a certain point, we're good.
It won't matter. Talk to me.
Of course, you're right.

Speaker 1 Did you text your son today? Because yesterday, Hawk, they had an exchange on Spotify in which his son alphed him. And then he said, I'm just going to wait until his son said hit.

Speaker 1 You want to tell him? Yeah, so

Speaker 1 well, yeah, like I just done, real quick. 16.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. So you're.
Just started driving to school, first year driving to school, you know? Okay.

Speaker 1 And like I text him, you know, the short version of the story is he was very polite and he told me very politely that he's, he was listening first. So I just, I was like, screw it.

Speaker 1 Do you want to change that? It wasn't very politely.

Speaker 1 He called him Sugar Tits. Yeah.
He said, I was listening first, Sugar Tits. I have the clip.
I can play it. I was listening first, Sugar Tits.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That was a line in the sand right there. So we had a short exchange, and it ultimately ended with, all right, he's going to be at school in two minutes.
I'll wait. And so

Speaker 1 today, I had like the same plan, except I pull up the Life 360 app. You know, do you use the Life360 app with your kids yet? What's that? You can keep track of where they are.
Life Alert?

Speaker 1 Essentially, yeah. You can keep track of where they are.
It's really great. Great app, okay?

Speaker 1 Does it do specific when you're at a place? Because I've had this where my wife are like on a cruise. We always know where my daughter is, but it just tells us she's on the cruise.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 It's like one of these big things. It's like, oh, thanks.
I know she's on the cruise. No, this is how I knew that my son was at Taco Bell at 1 a.m.
Okay. Is your darling like six?

Speaker 1 She's just running around cruises? Well, on cruises, they have the kids' club. Like when they're at the kids' club, we like to be able to.
So how does Life360 work?

Speaker 1 It's like a chip you put in your kid's neck or something? So Neuralink. Like a dog? It's connected to their phone.
I was vaccinated.

Speaker 1 So. I know.
Somebody's hot.

Speaker 1 so so i'm tracking him on the light 360 today hock i'm waiting for him to get to school right so he gets to school but like he's still changing the tracks from song to song i could see he's in the parking lot of his school so i think he's just sitting in his car like listening to music you know maybe maybe i don't know

Speaker 1 but so the old wake and bake go ahead so i yeah like i i couldn't listen to music this morning i'm like i can't live like this what about the sugar tits part i feel like we glossed over that was i wrong there's got to be some backstory there.

Speaker 1 After he gave you a wedgie this morning, right?

Speaker 1 What did you do then as he intensified the bullying of his father? Well, we have a thing in our house, and it's where if you want to be man of the house, you could challenge me.

Speaker 1 Okay, meaning you got to take me down. It's a fucking official, like in Black Panther, where precisely

Speaker 1 white Jewish kids. Yes.

Speaker 1 Can you take me down? And my son, yeah, we have a whole, you know, it's a whole tribe. You're in a public.
And it's a bunch of Jews. They're praying.
I got you. Different tribe.
Different tribe.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 He tried about four months ago.

Speaker 1 It didn't go well for him. All right.

Speaker 1 You feel good about the timeline you have right now. Literally, you just got to make it to 18.
Yeah, well, and

Speaker 1 you have to wait six months until you could challenge me again. So it's like, all right, you wasted it, man.
See you in six months if you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good old man rule that you put in there because young guys,

Speaker 1 I'll see you every Monday

Speaker 1 twice a week. Exactly.
You got to heal up. This six months, at some point, if he's smart, he's going to negotiate that debt.

Speaker 1 You can't just be looking over my shoulder every day, wondering if it's going to happen. Hey, but that's the wild of being a man.

Speaker 1 Like, four times in a week, he'll get you on the fourth because you're going to be sore. Wait, he can sneak attack?

Speaker 1 He should get one sneak attack. I think it should be like, all right, this is my attack, and it's face-to-face.
Like, this can't be you're sleeping, and all of a sudden he's pitting you. Well, no,

Speaker 1 that's no, we both have to be standing. That's what I'm saying.
Okay, okay. This is when the hardcore belt was 24-7.
That's right. Very similar.
But, like I said, there's a six-month interval.

Speaker 1 That's a crazy interval. That is a yeah, that's like way too small in your favor.
Yeah, he shouldn't agree to that. Wait, so how does this end? When one of you hits the ground, it's over?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you could like get me to the ground and like you've essentially pinned me there. And then you have to pin him for this to end on his end? No, no.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's going to be, I guess, until he's 18. No, but I'm saying for this one encounter that then sets off the six-month calendar.
Oh, yeah, I had to pin. I got him to the ground.

Speaker 1 Of course, I won. Oh, my God.
If he got you, you would have to wait six months and you could challenge him again is what we're going to do. I haven't thought that part out if I'm being honest.

Speaker 1 You need to start thinking that out. Yeah, you need to do sugar tits.
Yeah, it's the six, it's coming. He's that's there's gonna be a lot more challenging happening.
I don't think that was

Speaker 1 if I were him and he's listening, I would, I would come to the table in the six-month negotiation. I like, I want, I need a back-to-back because I need to see what you're like, how your body really

Speaker 1 is the first one. Yeah, like you have six months to keep putting it all in.
Because what, if he's going to show up one day, he's already taller than me.

Speaker 1 He's going to show up one day with a different man. Not a great feat.
He's going to low ball.

Speaker 1 And now you're both going to be at the house with this different guy that he brought in to kick your ass at the house. So this pin is a three-count.

Speaker 1 He's going to bring a champion with him? He's going to bring a ringer.

Speaker 1 And be like, hey, I'm not the man of the house anyway, so I'm just going to bring somebody else.

Speaker 1 And then you have to wait six months for this guy to leave because he brought somebody in to kick your ass. Does he get the big bedroom? Like, you and your wife have to get into his room then if he

Speaker 1 takes the house? No, but he would just be in charge, you know, if

Speaker 1 so if he wanted to, technically, yeah, he could get the big bedroom. thing.
Yeah, I guess so. Like, if you're a man of the house, you do get to pick your bedroom.

Speaker 1 Then he gets to go to Chicago by himself. Yeah.
How far away is he from beating you? Like, in that last match? I don't, it was not close. Percentage-wise, was it 90-10, 95, 5

Speaker 1 in that area?

Speaker 1 He got me by the neck to start, okay, because it was a little bit of a sneak attack. Okay.
He was on my back, and he had me by the neck, and it took me about... Rear naked?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it took me about 50 years. Did he have the hooks in or no? No.

Speaker 1 That's the thing. You got to teach Corey.
He's got to get the hooks in first, and then you got to get the crease of your elbow right on the chin. He's a big MMA fan.
And then you got to crank back.

Speaker 1 Loves the Arab fighters. Loves Arab fighters.
Gotcha. And so it took me less than 10 seconds to maneuver out of it.
Okay. And I got into the ground really quick.
Less than 10? Was it more than six?

Speaker 1 That's not like. I like him.
But I was never in jeopardy of like

Speaker 1 blacking out. Okay.
You know? Technique issue, though. Technique issue.
If it took you almost 10 to get out. No.
He's not that far away.

Speaker 1 You can't let him get under your chin. You gotta dig your chin down.
Yeah, I don't think he has.

Speaker 1 I don't think he has.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
So he, so to some, he was not close. Okay.
We'll see. A couple more months.
He could challenge again. In the weight room, man.
Maybe get some creatine going. He does.

Speaker 1 He actually goes to the gym. Yeah.
So we'll see. Do you have six months of a consistent? I mean, what a silly question.
This answer. I mean, look at this.
Again, the sugar is now.

Speaker 1 Come on now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's where we're at. All right.
I'm constantly paying money. And it's because of my older son.
This launch is apparently going pretty well.

Speaker 1 Not well, actually. The opposite of that.
My friends in the group. Yeah, sorry about that.
Wow, that was a roller coaster. That was a scorehole.
Oh, wow. I don't know what to think right now.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be honest with you. Let's reset.
All right. You haven't got a stroke.
Are you okay? I'm still. I'm very Chris telling what that story was.
What approach?

Speaker 1 Are we still talking about Spotify? I think you're talking about ESPN. ESPN app.
Okay. ESPN launches crap.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 According to my group chats,

Speaker 1 everyone's very... What's been the issue?

Speaker 1 People are trying to go through Disney Plus and it's telling them to go through the other app. Everybody's a little confused.
People feel like they're paying for it, but

Speaker 1 have to troubleshoot exactly where they're going to get what they're paying for. I had a pretty easy time with it yesterday.
I just, I upgraded my bundle.

Speaker 1 I got the ESPN Hulu Disney Plus bundle, and I just had to, I upgraded it. It cost me a few extra bucks.
Well, if you already have the bundle,

Speaker 1 like me. I haven't even looked yet.
The bundle you have, though, is ESPN Plus, and that is not the same thing they just released. So you are going to have to upgrade.
Okay. That's what I did.

Speaker 1 That's what you're going to have to do, Hawk, as well. I don't, yeah, I don't know.
I work for ESPN. Well, I do too.
I haven't decided to do the free subscription bar. I'm like,

Speaker 1 let's let them settle into whatever's going on, and then I'll check out about the free parts. I'm not good at using anything we get for free anyway at ESPN.
I've never been to Disney World.

Speaker 1 And I think we get free entry. We do.
You've never gone taking your kids with the passes. We get free passes.
Let me get those passes. I mean, let's talk because I don't, I don't.
Wow. I've never.

Speaker 1 We can talk. You get 50% with the resorts? Come on.

Speaker 1 You got all the information. I got nothing, man.
And they get like 40% off cruises, too.

Speaker 1 Really? I could be wrong. You get a percentage off on cruises.
I heard that the Life 360 doesn't really work on the cruises, though. I heard that too.

Speaker 1 Someone told me that. It's just like, yeah, I know.
She's on the boat. She's on the boat.
Where else?

Speaker 1 I feel a lot safer now looking at this app.

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Speaker 1 So last night, there was preseason football. Tomorrow, college football starts, which is awesome.
All right. You got a game in Dublin.

Speaker 1 We have no more Saturdays without without college football it's all happening avery johnson at quarterback he's mixed race that's right did you know that hawk oh no mike had to apologize yesterday the the point guard no no no no no that's where i went to that's where it all started okay mean was like wow avery johnson has a kid that's playing quarterback i'm like no this kid's white as you see by the uh the photo there okay and if you watch him play he's got the the blonde hair he's got the blonde hair hanging out the back of the helmet do we have one in his uniform so i only watch kansas State usually on a second TV experience.

Speaker 1 Okay. I never, all I really see is blonde hair hanging out of a helmet and a complexion that would suggest, you know, perhaps a white guy.
Okay. Not white.
Not white. Mixed race.
Mixed race.

Speaker 1 This is his beautiful family. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So just don't make the same mistake I made. And that's not Avery Johnson's son.
No. As well.
No. Because Avery Johnson is like maybe 5'8.

Speaker 1 I don't think Kansas State's ever been on anyone's main TV.

Speaker 1 Well, tomorrow, it's the only game going on. Noon, Dublin, Ireland.
So we have my main team for tomorrow. Top 25 matchup.
Yep. Who are they playing? Iowa State.
Okay, Campbell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, give it a look, see.

Speaker 1 Could there be a less exciting top 25 matchup? This is pretty good, man. You don't look bald.
I know that these teams are not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 But just on paper, just looking at the two, Kansas State, Iowa State. You got two good quarters.
The quarterback gets the juices flowing like Kansas State, Iowa State.

Speaker 1 The winner of this game has an inside track to be one of those Big 12 dark horses in the CFP.

Speaker 1 And the quarterbacks can make a statement. Avery Johnson, especially, can get himself in this Heisman conversation.

Speaker 1 You weren't there when Darren Sproles was taking shit yard every time he touched Raw. Does Iowa State still have that coach or he'd leave? He's still

Speaker 1 there. He's still there.
Matt Campbell's still there. Yeah, he actually turned down.
He turns down big jobs. He's doing this thing

Speaker 1 where he's like, I'm on the rise. I'm picking my job.
And he's going to like, it's going to get to a point. It's like, I passed all the good jobs.
Now I'm taking a worse shot.

Speaker 1 You would have thought it was starting to look that way, but then Iowa State had a 10-win season last year, won the pop target. Dude, he's legit.
You know where he started coaching at.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, but tell Roy. Okay, I'll tell Roy.
University of Lynn. He didn't use somebody else.

Speaker 1 He's a Toledo coach.

Speaker 1 So the point is, football's back. All right.
Yeah. And last night there was even some preseason football action.
Now, I would never watch that because, my God, what a waste of time. Good game.

Speaker 1 But the New York Giants, all right, they played last night. They beat the Patriots.
Okay, who cares?

Speaker 1 They crushed the Patriots. And Mike, you're like all wrapped up in the Giants quarterback situation.
Well, it's a fascinating quarterback room.

Speaker 1 I know people are talking about the Cleveland quarterback situation, but in terms of personalities, the interesting one is what's happening in New York right now. So who we got here? You got Russ.

Speaker 1 You have Russell Wilson. You have Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 1 Tommy's still there? Tommy's still there. Tommy literally.

Speaker 1 So right there, like, that's three of the most memeable quarterbacks ever. Yeah, that's good.
That's a Mount Rushmore of polarizing internet quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 And then you have the young hot shot prospect. Literally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's hot. Jackson Dart.
Jackson Dart. He's got the eye black.
Good looking kid. Good-looking kid.
Wears a big, hefty chains.

Speaker 1 It's a mock neck. Yeah, it's a mock turtle.

Speaker 1 It's like Tommy. So you got four quarterbacks over there, all kind of popular.
In fact, I'd say the least popular guy is the guy that's on most depth charts is QB1. The guy that's won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 That's the least popular. Let me give you a little taste of the vibes.

Speaker 1 Here's the vibes in this room. Let's see.
Hey, yo, I'm just saying. They call us the three amigos, but somebody had the hat-trick today.

Speaker 1 We turn it up and we get

Speaker 1 the young bucks and we EW's with the young bucks. You know what time it is? Don't be blue.
We turn it up. We send this thing off.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean, come on. At one point on the sideline, Jackson Dart was hand-feeding

Speaker 1 Jameis Wentzen a dub. Look at this video video right here.

Speaker 1 Is he actually going for a bite? Oh, thank God. He faked it.
I was going to say, that'd be good. Look at the commitment, though.
We're Mr. Unlimited.
All right, so Jameis, well, three of them played.

Speaker 1 All right. You weren't listening, Billy.
Three of them played. I know.
He should be in that room. He should be in that room.
You can be the vibes. It was Jameis and them Young Bucks.
All right.

Speaker 1 Tommy DeVito was 17 of 20, 198 yards, three touchdowns. Boy, the Patriots are playing any defense.
Jackson Dart was 6 of 12, 81 yards, and a touchdown. Jameis Winston, 4 for 8, 47 yards, a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Hawk, do you think he had an interception? I don't. He did.
Of course he did. Come on.
What are we talking about here? But he

Speaker 1 ran a wrong route. Here's the funny thing to me.
All right.

Speaker 1 Everyone loves Jameis Winston. He's a very, I don't, you know, I don't want to get into the off-the-field stuff.
All right. We're talking about on the field.
Jeremy here, him in a locker room.

Speaker 1 Do you think your family?

Speaker 1 You like him. All right.
I can't get involved.

Speaker 1 I can't get involved in the off-the-field stuff. All right.
But on the field, I'm in the locker room. Yeah, you kind of just

Speaker 1 started as a kid. I don't want to get it to go around.
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 I think we tried to discuss this openly and honestly last time. Like, you mention it, I guess,

Speaker 1 and you do what you can with it. It's, I mean, he did have another thing that popped up, too, the Uber.
So, like, you mention it, but you know, these things are in the past. Thank you, Mike.

Speaker 1 There you go, Jeremy. By all accounts, though,

Speaker 1 Jameis

Speaker 1 is a very popular player. Yes,

Speaker 1 teammates love him.

Speaker 1 Every team,

Speaker 1 this is fourth team. All right.
He has his first year with the Giants. You could say they already love him.
All right. This is fourth team.
His teammates love him.

Speaker 1 Fans love him. You could hear the way we're about to talk about him right now.
He's a very likable player to watch. He's funny.
All right.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 for me,

Speaker 1 he is such a unique player because I cannot think of another

Speaker 1 first overall pick, especially quarterback. First overall pick.
If you take a quarterback first overall, it's like one of the biggest moments in your franchise's history. All right.

Speaker 1 A quarterback selected first overall

Speaker 1 who, by all accounts, was a bust. Right now we're all typing in first picks in

Speaker 1 first overall picks. By all accounts, was a bust.
Okay. And is still this this popular figure.

Speaker 1 If you're the number one overall pick and you're supposed to be the face of your franchise and it does not work out,

Speaker 1 you would think it's like, all right, man, you know, get out of here. You were a bust.
Like you hurt the franchise. It set them back.
Like no one wants to hear from you.

Speaker 1 Like what other number one overall pick, even if you want to make a number two overall pick, who was a quarterback who it didn't work out with that original team, wasn't even signed to a second contract, Hawk.

Speaker 1 If you're a quarterback, number one overall, and your team did not sign you to a second contract, that is a bust. All right.
You've established ground rules. Okay.
Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Team.

Speaker 1 Number one overall draft pick. Right.
Didn't make it to a second contract. Right.
Didn't just fail in Cleveland, even though I would debate the merits of that. He won at Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 Hawk knows what a big deal that is. I mean, the franchise hasn't won a regular season game at Pittsburgh in 21 years.
He won a playoff game. He won a playoff game there.
He did.

Speaker 1 But then he went to Carolina, was running scout DN over there.

Speaker 1 And he was terrible went over to Los Angeles had a moment had a moment there Sean McVac kind of rebuilt him and then he took a approve it deal post-Tom Brady no one really expected anything from him and then he becomes one of the according to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers one of their 50 greatest players of all time in franchise history that's crazy wow yeah was Jameis on that list curious I don't know Baker was 38 and you got to think Baker's higher than Jameis I would guess Jameis is not on the list.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know.
But I don't... See, I don't put Baker in that category.
Because you just don't believe him to be a bus.

Speaker 1 But the criteria that you outlined is don't make it to a second contract with your team. You also listed four teams.
Baker's on his fourth team. Everyone loves Baker now.
Here's the thing, though.

Speaker 1 He's not a bus because Cleveland was wrong. Like, Cleveland was wrong in that spot.
Tampa Bay wasn't wrong. Jameis.
But it took to the fourth spot for us to realize that Cleveland was wrong.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Cleveland was wrong, though. Man, he wore out his welcome over there.
He wore out his.

Speaker 1 Cleveland was wrong, especially with who they brought in. That was wrong.
Well, but also that guy was really good in Houston. Like really, like definitely better than Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's one of those guys that you stop to mention the off-the-field stuff every time. And Baker, Baker's biggest sin was that he tried to play hurt.

Speaker 1 If Baker decides to shut it down after that upper body injury, I don't think they force him out. No,

Speaker 1 Baker had some maturing to do off the field stuff. And I think it's like, again, it's not as talked about that.

Speaker 1 But even Baker has said like he's it the humbling experience helped him mature to what he is now team wanted him gone too the leaders on that team wanted him gone yeah and that's hard to do for someone who want a playoff game for you so you got to like really think about even what baker is now he has matured it was never an ability thing and i think with some of the players you're talking about that I kind of agree with you on the Baker side because the second contract didn't come because they didn't think he had ability.

Speaker 1 It was like

Speaker 1 it was some of the off-the-field stuff that didn't make it worth it to the franchise of like what it was probably felt like in the in the in the organization.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't like a you're not as good as we thought you were. Baker is debatable, but I have one that I think is the nuts.
Well, and then we just had, hold on to that real quick.

Speaker 1 You could correlate that with the nuts. You could correlate that Baker, Winston, that whole deal with Jameis because, hey, I always have

Speaker 1 they moved on from Jameis because they had an opportunity for Brady, which was obviously the right move. But

Speaker 1 Jameis has had now

Speaker 1 six years to try and become a starter again. And he's very clearly not a starter in this league.

Speaker 1 Jim Plunkett. He was a number one overall draft pick for the New England Patriots.
I'm probably surprising many in our audience that Jim Plunkett was ever anything but a raider.

Speaker 1 He flunked out over there. And then I think Jim Plunkett's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 I also want to add the part, though, the popularity plays a role for me yeah i thought i had a nominee that's a second overall pick not a quarterback who that's feels like a bust played on a bunch of teams had a nice career the likable part i don't know reggie bush

Speaker 1 see that's tough hock because how much does reggie bush bouncing around like that who was a good player how much does reggie bush bounce now was he the guy that they thought they were getting number two overall out of usc who was like the best college football player i'd ever seen at that point he was ridiculous were they getting that guy did they get that guy no of course not but how much did reggie Bush bouncing around the way he did have to do with him being, you know, a running back?

Speaker 1 I don't call Reggie Bush a bust. No, I don't either.
No, but he did turn into a bit of a journeyman who was popular. But that's why I'm asking about his position.
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 How about this one? Now, he was a first-round draft pick, but he was a supplemental first-round draft pick.

Speaker 1 Now, for those that don't know, You use a supplemental draft pick, you lose that first-rounder for next year. It's whatever round you use that in, you use the following year's real regular draft pick.

Speaker 1 So, Steve Young was a first-round supplemental draft pick by the Tampa Bay Bucks.

Speaker 1 Bust with Tampa Bay. Legend in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 Wait, so any year I can just be like, I want an extra first round pick, I'll give you mine next year. There's a supplemental draft.
Sometimes people miss deadlines.

Speaker 1 Josh Gordon from Cleveland, he led the league in receiving. He was a supplemental draft pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe you wanted to graduate, took an extra semester or something, so there's a supplemental draft, you know?

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Speaker 1 how you love that catchphrase.

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Speaker 1 Vinny Tessa Verdi, another buck bust that is beloved in New York. Right, see that, okay, that's the part that I'm also harbing on, is the popularity, is the beloved.

Speaker 1 Like, Jameis Winston is loved everywhere he goes. MEP is beloved by New York Jets fans.
Jameis Winston is great, though.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jameis Winston is like a rare,

Speaker 1 like so rare. It's not because his personality, it's so kid-like.
Like, what you see. Look how much those guys loved him in that video.
He's going to make a billion dollars when he gets in the media.

Speaker 1 Like, he's going to be so high paid. You think so? Oh, my gosh, man.
He's already been doing media stuff. I've been around him for maybe a total of six minutes, like, in my life.

Speaker 1 And I walk away every time, like,

Speaker 1 damn, that dude is, he's coming to sports media. He's not going to be ready.
He's got to be ready.

Speaker 1 He's going to be like, we go out to Jameis now, like, doing a hit somewhere, like, with the people. Like, I'm with you.
He's going to be great. He's one of those persons.

Speaker 1 I don't see him as a bad person. Like, when I watch players, it's like certain people that I'm like, I watch him to say, okay, when this guy retires, should I be worried?

Speaker 1 It's been an interesting 50 years, you know,

Speaker 1 Like when I see Cooper Cup talk about like receiver play, and I'm like, damn it. Oh, really? He's coming.
Oh, he's on the way.

Speaker 1 You have more charisma than him, though. I know, but it's like on the exit, I got to see in a piece.

Speaker 1 Like, the X's and O's, like, I know what Cooper Cup, big name, Super Bowl, you know, I know that they're going to be like, man, we got to clamor to get him.

Speaker 1 And that's like a competitive, like, damn it, he's coming. Got him.
Jameis Winston on the charisma side, I look at him and think the same thing. Like, ah, damn.
I got another Tampa Bay buck.

Speaker 1 Jameis is on his way. Doug Williams was drafted in the first round, was inconsistent, left for the USFL, ended up winning a Super Bowl with Washington.
What pick was he in the...

Speaker 1 He was a first-round draft pick. Yeah, number 30? Like, what pick was he?

Speaker 1 I got one. Oh,

Speaker 1 I might take the cake with this one. Tim Tebow.
Well, obviously a huge bust, yeah. But is he beloved? Not a number one pick.

Speaker 1 Is Tim Tebow beloved? By an NFL franchise? I mean, he did win a playoff game in Denver.

Speaker 1 I know he's going to be beloved in college.

Speaker 1 Jameis is beloved by FSU friends.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 franchise is Jameis beloved by? None.

Speaker 1 Like, from a football perspective. He's beloved by fans.
So, like, your argument for Tebow does kind of stand, but he's beloved because of what he did in college and what he stands for.

Speaker 1 Well, but like, was Tebow beloved by the locker room when he was with the Jets? I'd say probably not. Jameis seems to be loved by every locker room he goes in.
I think they love Tim Tebow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 People who play with Tim love him. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, love having him around.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. How about Alex Smith? He won a playoff game with San Francisco.

Speaker 1 Now, you can debate whether or not he made it to a second contract because, as a part of a restructure on his rookie deal, they tacked on one year.

Speaker 1 And after that one year, they tacked on, they let him walk and he went to Kansas City. But you also have to remember why they let him walk.
They didn't let him walk because they think he stinks.

Speaker 1 They let him walk because they thought they had someone better in Khan Kaepernick. That matters.
And also, I don't know if Kansas City fans feel an affinity towards Alex Smith.

Speaker 1 Our definition is tough because it seems as though it gave him rigged just for James Winter. He had 26,000 yards in his NFL career.
Yeah, not a bust. Even Reggie Bush is like 9,000 total yards.

Speaker 1 We're just talking about like with that first team. With that first team, it didn't really pop out.
I got something.

Speaker 1 The criteria is like you're not brought back by the team that drafted you, number one. You go play several places.
You're supposed to be a foundational piece for the franchise.

Speaker 1 And they said, nah, we're done with you. Jared Goff,

Speaker 1 number one pick overall. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was a bust for a long time. Let's do a Super Bowl.
No, but he was used to the bus. Let's do a Super Bowl.
But then it was his fault that they didn't win.

Speaker 1 Got traded for a guy who came in and won a Super Bowl, now beloved by Detroit, got a second contract with the Trojans. They just upgraded.
I think they just upgraded. He wasn't a bust.

Speaker 1 Upgrade's not a bust. Guys, he was terrible.
It was an interesting case study what happened with Jared Goff, but I don't think even Rams fans can call him a bust in that uniform.

Speaker 1 He made it to a Super Bowl for them, and he had some very good seasons. They just had the opportunity like Tampa Bay had, which is like, let's go get someone that can take us next level.

Speaker 1 Hawk, I don't know. I see those gears turning over there did he get a second contract in in he just signed 200 no

Speaker 1 that's what i don't like the definition i don't think yeah i think god didn't derive it no it might just be it's authentic to a second contract because they had to make the money work out for the stafford right he had a huge contract let me see he definitely made it to a second contract football is so bad but i think we could admit though that jameis winston is a really unique situation right yeah i don't think it's unique because of like his draft status though like i maybe that's why we know him i think he's unique because of his personality.

Speaker 1 I'm not kidding. I genuinely think Jameis Winston is a one-of-one personality.
Humble enough to... That's why

Speaker 1 people love him. Humble enough to go from being a first overall pick to, I'm a team guy.
Whoever, I'll be the third string and I'm the best teammate you got. Without missing a beat.

Speaker 1 There's so many opportunities for toxicity in his toll career and he could be pissed. And like even how he talks about Tampa Bay with such love and admiration when most guys would be like, F you.

Speaker 1 Even if they like, you know, like Johnny Manzel curses Cleveland. Like, you can't break Jameis.
He's going to be nice to you and respectful, like, no matter what you do. Exactly.

Speaker 1 And I think that's what makes him unique. I have a way from the sport comparison.
It feels to me, I think you can agree to this. Hockey, hockey reference.
No.

Speaker 1 He's the Ryan Killings of the NFL. He's our truth.

Speaker 1 He's our truth. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, give me the look. I know who that is.
I know who that is.

Speaker 1 Of course, I know what that is.

Speaker 1 But tell Billy. All right.
I'm the big carter.

Speaker 1 And everyone, so he was supposed to be a big deal, but he's not a big deal, but everyone still loves him. But where was he drafted in the WWE draft? Former NWA champion.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're talking about a wrestler. Oh, gosh, okay.
I was really lost on all that. Can I just bring it back to hockey for a second? And just, I want to play a game called

Speaker 1 Here's a compliment. Hawk looks great in a hockey jersey.

Speaker 1 We saw him like two days ago on McAfee, and he was rocking a hockey jersey, and we were all in the office saying, like, damn, that's a good look. That hockey jersey.
Whoa, what sweater was it?

Speaker 1 What team? It was the Charleston Chiefs from

Speaker 1 Slapshot, which was filmed in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, which is my hometown. I complimented that to you, huh? We saw Hawk up there, and I was like, man, that's well lit.
Like, just a good set.

Speaker 1 You must be on set somewhere. Just in his house.
Just bedroom. Just very interesting.
Just bedroom, well. Bedroom set.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Frico, baby.

Speaker 1 Very.

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Speaker 1 You guys better tune in because you're in there. What? Nice.

Speaker 1 You brought it. You brought it this year.
Both of you. What are you talking about? I love it.
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That's all that counts, man.

Speaker 1 How good is this day next week going to be? Where it's just, oh my God, we got the full slate. Like, we got a little taste of it, Hawk, tomorrow with the college football.

Speaker 1 But this time next week, oh my god, you got Notre Dame and Miami. Granted, it's Sunday night, not Saturday, but nonetheless, I mean, next week, whoo, it's a little appetizer, Hawk.
Little appetizer.

Speaker 1 Main events next week. Are you excited about it? Well, I mean, I look at Mike, and I can only imagine what he's going to be like next Friday leading into Notre Dame and Miami.
A wreck. No.
No.

Speaker 1 Very confident. Are you juiced right now? Yeah, I'm very confident.
How are we looking in camp? Talk to me. We look great.
Do we? Yeah, I think one through 22 were really, really good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. Wow, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's your reaction, huh? What noise was that?

Speaker 1 Got excited.

Speaker 1 Not as excited as you, bro.

Speaker 1 You catch my drift.

Speaker 1 Beck looks really good.

Speaker 1 For the audio audience, that was that falling away. That wasn't excitement.
That was

Speaker 1 a flaccid mic. Yeah, just completely lost my life.
It's not tight.

Speaker 1 Real talk, I think we're going to beat the shit out of Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 It's going to be like 2017?

Speaker 1 I think we're going to beat the shit out of them. 20 to 17.
Is that what you're predicting? No, it's going to be like 2017. No, we'll see.
Miami's presently an underdog.

Speaker 1 Notre Dame just named a quarterback that loves to throw interceptions and they were afraid to lose in the transfer portal. I think we're deep.
If we stop the run, I think we beat the shit out of them.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Where's this at? Here. Hard Rock Stadium.
The Rock. How much do you have to beat someone by to, quote, beat the shit out of them? I think 31-17 is

Speaker 1 the criteria. 14-point lead as established by

Speaker 1 I made my score prediction for Kane's inside. I said 38-17.
I feel like you got to win by 17 to call it beating the shit out of the team. But it's different college and pro.

Speaker 1 Like, beating the shit out of a team, it's different depending if it's college or pro. 31-17 in the pro.
That's beating the shit out of it. And expectations, too.

Speaker 1 Remember, Miami is a two-point dog headed into this game. So if they win that game by that score,

Speaker 1 that is an ass kicking. I got this being

Speaker 1 a three-score game. So we'll see what Notre Dame does.

Speaker 1 Look, they earned

Speaker 1 all sorts of respect last year. National runner-up, went through big-time programs, and the way they did it was super admirable because they were a mash unit.

Speaker 1 They played through injuries, they earned a lot of respect.

Speaker 1 They also lost some guys, and they have a quarterback that is starting right now who didn't really win a quarterback battle, was just the guy because they were afraid of losing him to the transfer portal.

Speaker 1 That's a big, big deal. Their quarterback out there is less experience than Emery Williams, Miami's backup.
So I feel really good about

Speaker 1 what Miami looks like right now in camp. I have a great deal of confidence there.
Thankfully, knock on wood, no injuries right now. They're good along the trenches.
We're much better in the secondary.

Speaker 1 If we can stop Jeremiah Love, I think this game can get ugly and that quarterback can get nervy and it could be like 2017 all over it. Beck look good.
Beck looks really good.

Speaker 1 I think Beck had a better fall camp than Cam Ward had last year. I mean, remember, a year ago this time, we were talking about Carson Beck could be the number one overall pick in the draft.

Speaker 1 I remember. I remember.

Speaker 1 He made a couple worldy throws at the practices that I've been to that are just NFL throws. You know it when you see it.
You know it when you see it. Kind of like an ass kicking.

Speaker 1 It's like it's not a score. You know it when you see it.

Speaker 1 Will there be a lot of Notre Dame fans there, you think?

Speaker 1 If you look at their boards,

Speaker 1 they do travel, but they all have TSD from the last time they came down here in 2017. They're talking about Florida being a stained year ground state in the message board.
So they're a little scared.

Speaker 1 Look, Smetty's not coming. I was going to say, Smetty didn't here? Smetty ain't coming.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 She may never step foot in the state of Florida again. We ruined the state for her.

Speaker 1 Well, she was here for Penn State, Notre Dame. She was.
And she told me she would like that just to be her lasting memory of that stadium.

Speaker 1 She does not want to ruin it and come back, which sounds like maybe she's a little bit scurfed. She knows what's coming.
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