Local Hour: It's Me And You (And Me Again) At The Sueys

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Speaker 11 Chris, I don't have confidence in what it is that I just saw. And I walked into a room where it didn't seem like Billy had much confidence in what he saw playing out on video.

Speaker 11 And then when I came out, I looked at your father, and he was grinning ear to ear while watching something. And he was watching himself.

Speaker 11 He was watching whatever he was doing, whatever he had orchestrated. Billy, where are you with whether this is going to succeed or not?

Speaker 3 Oh, I mean, I have no idea if this is going to succeed or not.

Speaker 3 I just know when we walked in, you and I separately, we had the same experience where we were quickly ushered out of where our normal is just like, hey, hey, pick up the pace, get out of this room, get, you can't be here, you can't be there, go hide in this corner,

Speaker 12 we can't have you here.

Speaker 3 There was a live, active music video shooting Suey Week.

Speaker 1 It was not a music video. It was a rehearsal like we did in the New York show.
We try to rehearse things with my dad. I'm sure he'll screw it up.

Speaker 11 You can't rehearse things with him. They don't work when you rehearse anything with him.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what, like, as we learned with New York, you're right. We tried to practice this once or twice before.
We're about to go lie to it. It's Suey's week.

Speaker 11 Okay, you're trying to bring the enthusiasm to Sue's Week, and this is how we're doing like the adornments on Suey Week. We're doing a taped thing that required your father to rehearse.

Speaker 1 For me, the best award shows start with an opening number. And that's what we're trying to prepare for the audience.

Speaker 11 Is that true? Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Do the best award shows start with an opening number?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Don't they all?

Speaker 3 Are there any award shows that don't start with an opening number?

Speaker 11 I'm not, you know, I haven't tuned into award shows in probably 15 years,

Speaker 11 but I don't assume that you start. I guess, yeah.
Did Conan start, Conan started dancing around with like in the last one, he did a bit of a musical, right?

Speaker 4 I don't believe you. Yeah, I don't think so either.

Speaker 12 I think you watch all the award shows.

Speaker 11 15 years? You guys are now accusing me of the music.

Speaker 3 We talk about every award show.

Speaker 4 Every award show.

Speaker 12 We did two weeks of Shane Gillis talk. You watched every award show.

Speaker 11 I didn't watch any of the award shows. You watch them.

Speaker 11 All I saw was the 10-minute monologue. You watch them.
Okay, I don't know what to do with being accused of being a liar now.

Speaker 11 That's your move now.

Speaker 4 Hell out of here.

Speaker 13 Look, it's Suey's week.

Speaker 11 I will tell you that the last awards show moment I remember was my wife waking me up because Will Smith had slapped Chris Rock.

Speaker 13 It's Suey's weed.

Speaker 12 That was 2022.

Speaker 3 Caught you.

Speaker 4 Is your dad? I was watching.

Speaker 14 I was asleep.

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Speaker 4 It's me

Speaker 4 and you.

Speaker 4 It's me again and it's you.

Speaker 4 It's me and you and me again

Speaker 4 at the Sue.

Speaker 4 The timing on the lip sync was slightly off, but

Speaker 11 pretty good, all things considered. And Suey Week is here, and I heard you taping stuff.
Put on your headset like a professional. He's actually got ear pods in.

Speaker 7 Really? He's ready to go.

Speaker 4 Woo! Excuse me. Sui Week.
The professional now.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm sorry. Forgive me for underestimating you.
You look great. I haven't seen.
There are only two times that I've ever seen Greg Cody dress this way. Two times when his boys got married.

Speaker 11 That's it.

Speaker 11 That's the list.

Speaker 11 This outfit does not get worn except on these most special of occasions. That's right.
Is this the only suit that you own? It's also for funerals.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's weddings and funerals and special occasions. This is probably one of three suits I own, and it's the one that's the closest to being new and clean.

Speaker 11 It is great. You look great, and thank you for getting us on this awards week off to a rip-roaring start.

Speaker 11 We're going to open with uncomfortable moment because I imagine I've got a few of those in there. I'm the reigning champion here, correct? This is my category.

Speaker 11 Wouldn't you guys agree that like Stugatz has mispronuncifications, Greg Cody has back in my day, most uncomfortable moment or biggest mistake?

Speaker 11 Those are my categories.

Speaker 1 Well, I'd like, I put up a good fight in biggest mistake.

Speaker 12 So don't don't take that one.

Speaker 11 Okay, but you would agree that if I were the betting, I've got to be the betting favorite on uncomfortable moments.

Speaker 1 You know who actually had a great performance this year in terms of a person you're going to see pop up in a lot of categories? David Sampson. Yeah.
I mean, he can make us uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 I would say, no, you are in here, but David Sampson brings it in uncomfortable. I believe Amin has a good one, so it's pretty widespread, actually.

Speaker 11 We'll get to that in a moment, but speaking of uncomfortable moments, I want to play some video for you.

Speaker 11 This is from Mike Bibby's podcast, and Shaq is making an appearance on the podcast, and he's told parts of this story before, okay,

Speaker 11 of how it is that Shaq. and the Miami Heat broke up.
It included Shaq being escorted out by security, wanting to fight Pat Riley.

Speaker 11 His things were taken outside and they were not to see each other. And Shaq has told those portions of the story before.

Speaker 11 But I want to present to you this story as he told it to Mike Bibby, where his anger was.

Speaker 11 And I just want to bring it to the Dolphins to ask you how it is that they're going to handle situations like this if things escalate this year and you do not have somebody like Pat Riley at the helm of your organization.

Speaker 11 How do you handle this?

Speaker 15 One day Jason Williams came late. Like, remember you used to have that clock? Yeah.
But Jason Williams came a half a second late and he was like, hey, man, you need to get out.

Speaker 15 I told Jason, we're not doing that because, you know, that's when he got rid of Antoine and all my guys, and I had a regular team. So we was losing like crazy.
So he told J.W. to get out.

Speaker 15 And I said, no, we're not getting out. He said, well, you get out.
And I said, motherfucker, put me out.

Speaker 15 So we got into a little scuffle. And then the next day, I was traded.

Speaker 1 A little scuffle.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So I ask you, Mother Bleeper, you put me out. Obviously, with Shaq, how do you do it? But let's make it Tyreek Hill.
Let's make the season start.

Speaker 11 And now, the focal point of everything you do offensively and your job and your future all rely on, I kind of need the deep threat.

Speaker 11 He kind of makes everything happen, and you know he's not going to behave if it goes poorly at the start, right?

Speaker 11 You guys understand that there's a volatile chemical in the dolphin locker room that was shouting at the end of last season, get me out of here in public.

Speaker 5 And they didn't trade him, and that spoke volumes. Mike McDaniel's job is teetering and he needs Tyreek Hill, who's still arguably his best player and his biggest threat.

Speaker 5 He had some, not as much trade value as he had a year ago, but in the past offseason, he still had some trade value. They didn't put him on the market because they need him too badly.

Speaker 5 And so therefore, if Tyreek is this version of what Shaq was then,

Speaker 5 they've proven that they're not going to trade him just because he's petulant or refuses to go to the bank.

Speaker 11 I want to ask you guys about the hypothetical, though, about like, what do you do when things escalate to that point where you've got

Speaker 11 more than any team in the league right now, and Asante Samuel's father gave voice to this, Asante Samuel Jr.'s father, Asante Samuel.

Speaker 12 Crazy where we are 20 years doing this show. We have to clarify.
That's correct.

Speaker 4 It's Asante Samuel's father.

Speaker 11 I think Fernando Tatis Jr. is the junior of a junior.
I'm not totally sure. I think so.
I think I've got that right.

Speaker 11 But when I tell you of the Dolphins and the chemical ingredients in their locker room, and I say to you that no team in the league, none, comes with the reputation, I don't know if that guy's in control of all that.

Speaker 11 I don't, I, and that happened quick, Greg. That happened.
He went from expectations, mastermind to show us something, boy genius, and oh, is he overwhelmed?

Speaker 11 Wait a minute, are these people too strong for him? Are these personalities too strong for him? All of that happened quickly. Show me where else in the league it exists.

Speaker 11 Because I've got the Dolphins here, everybody gathered around saying, How do they go quickly to irrelevant if this thing blows up early in the season? Because

Speaker 11 the joint practice that they had that echoed from C to C

Speaker 11 is indicative of, yes, things are actually falling apart there before it's even started.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 5 Well, I think that's why they traded Jalen Ramsey as symbolic of the need for a culture reboot.

Speaker 5 Jalen Ramsey spends the entire season being petulant, being late, and they said enough already, and they traded him.

Speaker 5 And you don't see many teams that go public with the idea that we're not tough enough. That's why we're always fading late in the season.
We need a culture reboot here. And they've done that.

Speaker 5 So let's see, you know, because a couple of their Terran Arms had retired.

Speaker 7 Wait, what does that mean?

Speaker 11 Hold on.

Speaker 11 They've done that.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 11 What do you mean they've done that?

Speaker 5 I mean, they've gone.

Speaker 11 They've said they've done that. They've said they've done that.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 Wait a minute. That's not the same thing at all.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 12 I mean, how do we judge that?

Speaker 4 Right, exactly. The season's just started.

Speaker 7 So we know it's a goal of theirs.

Speaker 12 We know what they're aspiring to.

Speaker 7 I guess we'll lay out and see the results.

Speaker 11 No, but this is the reason that I asked you guys the question, because when you start this way with the expectations and everything that happened there, what usually doesn't happen is that the audience is sitting there watching.

Speaker 11 The customer is watching and being like, Coach, I don't think they respect you.

Speaker 11 And then coach comes out and says, well, we're doing this different with the time and this different with the time and this different with the time. Hey, coach, I don't think they respect you.

Speaker 11 Like just because you made a whole bunch of different rules, you're still the same guy they didn't respect before now just with rules.

Speaker 12 So you're skeptical at their ability to pull this off, but I mean, what are they supposed to do in the public space to convince you?

Speaker 11 I'm saying they've got a problem at the top of their food chain with a volatile chemical that says, I want to be the leader. And then quarterback says, no, you're not.
We don't trust you.

Speaker 11 Kansas City wouldn't let you get in front of microphones. There are great reasons that no one around here trusts you.

Speaker 12 Just a Play Devil's Advocate. Arguments against.
They didn't just have one Malcontent atop their food chain. They had Jalen Ramsey, too, and they got him out of here.

Speaker 12 And Tua seems to have asserted himself publicly more as a leader,

Speaker 12 more publicly considered a guy that can maybe reign Tyreek Hill in. I think that's right to be met with skepticism.

Speaker 11 It's a super interesting dynamic when that receiver got Tua paid. And now Tua has to go the other way on, no, I'm the big dog here.
I'm the leader. But what happens when I take you out of the offense?

Speaker 11 Now Waddle's my number one and no one thinks he's a number one.

Speaker 4 No one.

Speaker 5 Well, but he's a really good number two and Malik Washington is fast rising. So they have a good wide receiver room, but they do need Tyreek.
You're right. But the thing about Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 11 The way they need him, though, is interesting. It's like a linchpin on everything.

Speaker 11 It's a really dangerous chemical to have near the detonation.

Speaker 5 Right. And they're relying, a big part of their hope is relying on a big bounce back year from Tyreek, whose yardage almost went in half

Speaker 5 this season. And Waddle as well.

Speaker 5 But the thing about criticizing Mike McDaniel too much, he's the same guy who made the playoffs two years in a row and scored 70 points against Denver, and then he's the darling of the league.

Speaker 5 He has won eight and nine season, and everything blows up.

Speaker 11 But, Greg, it's an optics problem. Very obviously,

Speaker 11 a young man who looks like a young man and who looks like he could be thrown by his ankles into the crowd by any of the people who play for him has the reputation of not being tough enough because he's compassionate and empathetic and he's a nice guy.

Speaker 11 And he doesn't look the part of football coach, doesn't talk the part of football coach, and now they need him to act like a football coach.

Speaker 11 And he's here at every point saying, gotta be me. I gotta let my players be them.
Look how that got you in trouble.

Speaker 11 You let them be them and then they started showing up late and they do what they want on your time. Like

Speaker 11 there's a functional lack of respect that's out in public.

Speaker 5 Okay, but I think he earned back an inch of that respect when he traded Jalen Ramsey. I think there was respect earned when Tua on the first day of camp says Tyree Rekhill has to earn back our trust.

Speaker 5 I think that was huge for Tua to to say that, and that's a leadership thing that you said.

Speaker 11 Let me ask the group the question. What did you find there, Jeremy? Did you locate something that made your eyes light up?

Speaker 2 Fernando Antonio Tatis is the father of Fernando Gabriel Tatis Medina Sr., who was the father of Fernando Gabriel Tatis Medina Jr. So, Dan, you were in fact right.
Fernando Tatis Sr.

Speaker 2 is not actually Fernando Tatis Sr.

Speaker 11 So does that mean that the present day Fernando Tatis in the major leagues is Fernando Tatis Jr. Jr.

Speaker 2 So Fernando Tatis Jr. has the exact same name because the maternal name is included.
So yes, Fernando Tatis Jr. is the third Fernando Tatis, but he's only the second Fernando Gabriel Tatis Medina Jr.

Speaker 3 But they have different middle names, right?

Speaker 3 Yes, I didn't know that senior versus junior had to also include the middle name.

Speaker 4 I don't know if that's the case for everyone. Is it?

Speaker 7 Is that the rule?

Speaker 4 That's the rule. Okay.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's the rule.

Speaker 12 Well, the whole thing is you use a middle name to differentiate. That's right, yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, that just becomes a nickname or a different way to say a name, right? You go by.

Speaker 11 I thought the middle name was just an appendage that had no real clout in any way. It was just dangling there.
It was second place on the choices of your parents.

Speaker 12 I think that there were three previous Will Fullers.

Speaker 11 And that was just their name.

Speaker 4 I know, but that became Will Fuller.

Speaker 12 Senior, then Junior, then the third.

Speaker 11 But Fernando Tatis Jr. Jr.
is not going by Fernando Tatis III.

Speaker 11 Put this on the poll at Lebetard Show.

Speaker 11 Does the middle name have any clout?

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 put it on the poll as well at Lebetard Show. Is the middle name just second place for the first name?

Speaker 12 Right, he's not going by the third because he's not a third, because the first in line wasn't a Medina Tatis.

Speaker 11 I don't believe that the middle name is in play here, but I don't know what the audience would register there. I didn't think that the junior junior had to have the identical middle name.

Speaker 5 I think middle names are significant in a lot of families, to a lot of people. In my family, both of my sons have middle names that are there for a reason.

Speaker 5 And I can't speak for everybody, but I don't disrespect the middle name. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 11 Well, but what clout does it actually have?

Speaker 4 It doesn't have clouts. Okay, nobody uses it.

Speaker 11 But give it, okay, but give it, well, not, no, look, Stephen Smith is not the same.

Speaker 4 Stephen A. Right.

Speaker 11 Like, Stephen Smith, there's an A there for a reason.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but nobody knows what it stands for.

Speaker 11 There are people who know what it stands for.

Speaker 4 I don't think so.

Speaker 5 I think he made it up.

Speaker 11 What clout does the middle name have? I want you to give me one thing the middle name does, one thing you know the middle name to be. Give me something, Greg.
I'm looking at you.

Speaker 11 I'm asking you these questions.

Speaker 11 You're telling me you think the middle name is something. I'm asking you, give me one thing the middle name is.

Speaker 5 The middle name is

Speaker 5 a continuation of family history and legacy, to some.

Speaker 5 In my case, Christopher's middle name was my father's given first name. Michael's middle name, my other son, is my given first name.
And so there's something there that makes me feel good.

Speaker 11 So it's just you, is what you're saying. It's your name being passed down.
It makes you feel good that your youngest son has your middle name.

Speaker 11 It's just you giving your son something that he has to hang on to after we've written your tombstone.

Speaker 5 I'm just, my tombstone is too full.

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Speaker 5 Right. I'm just saying that right now I have a granddaughter.
I don't have any grandsons. So, you know, the Cody last name

Speaker 5 may be in trouble. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 You know?

Speaker 12 Oh, there's a finger, Chris. There's a lot in Canada.

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, my, the elongation of my family name.

Speaker 7 You go into Canada, everyone's like, oh, Cody.

Speaker 4 Hey, Cody.

Speaker 4 It's like Smith or Jones. Cote.
Cote, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, that's a, but, but here, in my case, you know, but but why can't my why can't my granddaughter take my last name?

Speaker 4 Maybe she will. Yeah, there you go.
I'm going to have a talk about that.

Speaker 11 I want, yes, please, let's talk more about you. I know you enjoy doing that and putting your name wherever it is that you can.
Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4 And then that's Stafford through him 25 and 2. Oh, there's a brand new kid in town out of B Y U Stugats.

Speaker 1 They call him Buka.

Speaker 1 His quarterback is not named Tua.

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Speaker 11 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 11 Getting back to the question I was asking you guys: if a coach loses respect optically and actually, can he get it back when he doesn't actually have job security or clout or when an overthrow, if you start in adversity, will end up with them swallowing you because they don't respect?

Speaker 11 Oh, now you changed the rules. It was okay for us to be everything that we were before,

Speaker 11 but now you're changing the rules because you and the GM are on the hot seat now and because we have a reputation as a team league-wide as being soft.

Speaker 11 The great combination of soft and unmanageable.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but soft is on the players.

Speaker 5 That's not to me, that's not on the head.

Speaker 11 No, but it's the style of play as well. It's not just no, it's their style.
Their offense doesn't travel in December. I know.
It's also the style.

Speaker 5 It's because they rely on speed more than any other team in the league. And nobody was complaining about that in the middle of two seasons ago when they're the

Speaker 11 reputation. That's where the reputation comes from.
Like, to me, it's unfair to ever call a football team soft, but this one has that reputation, does it not? Am I just

Speaker 11 anyone going to dispute me on this?

Speaker 5 I would say it did have that reputation, but let's see about this year.

Speaker 11 Okay, so they haven't played a game, but they may have changed it, even though, you know, Chubb and Phillips are hurt. And, you know, like they're signing Judon for $6 million.

Speaker 5 It's a good signing.

Speaker 11 Yes, a good signing. Like, when you guys tell me, forgive me for bringing up what his rehashed subject matter on chemistry, respect, leadership.

Speaker 11 But as we head into a football season that risks the job of the GM and the coach, and as the coach's reputation has gone up in flames in a way that needs to be rescued by this season, and even if they start 8-2,

Speaker 11 no one's going to trust them because of everything that December has brought to this franchise this entire century.

Speaker 11 They go into this season

Speaker 11 with him needing to be a leader

Speaker 11 and he needs Tyreek Hill

Speaker 11 because Chris made a face when I said Jaden Waddle wasn't, Jalen Waddell wasn't a number one. He's not a number one.
He came here and it looked like he was a number one.

Speaker 11 Tyreek Hill made him look like a number one. Then the drop started.
And you know that offense is not going to look the same if I take Tyreek Hill out of it. You all know it.

Speaker 11 No matter what a mastermind the coach is, you all know that if I don't make Tyreek Hill perfectly healthy, if he looks banged up or slower slower like he did last year, look what happens to the offense.

Speaker 11 It all falls apart. I don't know if Tua is their most important piece.
I really don't.

Speaker 5 He is on offense.

Speaker 5 Devon H.

Speaker 11 And the reason I say it is because I think Tua needs Tyreek Hill more than Tyreek Hill needs Tua. I think Tyreek Hill gets open against anybody.

Speaker 11 I think Tua needs Tyreek Hill to run that offense so he can throw the ball every time two seconds in.

Speaker 5 Well, Tyreek Hill's got something to prove, too. He's an aging wide receiver coming off an extremely disappointing season.
So he's got something to prove. Everybody's got something to prove.

Speaker 5 Devon Achan averaged eight yards of carry as a rookie. Last year it was more of a standard four-point something.
Everybody on that offense has something to prove.

Speaker 5 Patrick Paul, the left tackle, has got something to prove.

Speaker 11 Do you guys disagree with what I'm saying, that Tua needs Tyreek more than Tyreek needs Tua?

Speaker 3 They need each other, I think.

Speaker 3 I mean, we've seen what this offense looks like without Tua, and it's an absolute disaster with a healthy Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 3 But we've also seen the Dolphins last year didn't really do anything when Tyreek was injured all season.

Speaker 3 So they seem to need each other at this point in their careers, but I don't think one can necessarily succeed without the other.

Speaker 12 There was a report from a Dolphin Insider that cited sources that said the offense goes to hell when Tua's not out there.

Speaker 11 So would you guys agree with me?

Speaker 11 And I believe that that is also so, but when Tyreek has not been quite right and Tua's out there, I've also seen them constipated and no longer looking like the offense they look like that gave us enthusiasm in a fourth quarter against the Ravens and 70 points against the Broncos and put the expectations where they did.

Speaker 11 Whatever your expectations for the season are, seven and a half is the number for their season, the betting number. Greg Cody, the homer, has written a column saying go over there.

Speaker 11 We will get to his column in a moment. If we want to do a dramatic reading, I would love anyone to give me the most homerific parts of Greg Cody's most recent column,

Speaker 11 Beyond the Paywall. But if I tell you right now, whatever your expectations for the season are, I'm not even going to, maybe you've got it at 12 wins.
Take just Tyreek Hill out of that.

Speaker 11 Now, where are your expectations?

Speaker 11 We know that you can't trust their quarterback to stay healthy, but now just take Tyreek Hill out. He can't play.
He's suspended. He's hurt.
He's traded. Where do your expectations go on this season?

Speaker 11 Because I believe all the expectations for the Dolphins weren't just that they could win. No, they had the explosive offense.
It didn't look like what the Chiefs looked like last year.

Speaker 11 They had the the guy that made them a big play threat, and it's not something they've had since Mourino.

Speaker 12 I mean, there's a lot of data points that you can pick at.

Speaker 12 Tyreek Hill didn't look like himself last year. It got off to an inauspicious start, but

Speaker 12 it's baked into the fabric of this franchise to his health.

Speaker 12 He just can't finish a season healthy.

Speaker 11 But what's the answer to my question on Hill?

Speaker 3 Without Tyreek Hill, I mean, they have weapons, right? It all depends on is Jalen Waddell going to be healthy? Malik Washington has looked okay. It's preseason so far.

Speaker 3 You have no idea what Darren Waller is going to be at this point in time. Ollie Gordon has looked good if he's the number two.

Speaker 9 He was good in college.

Speaker 12 Just the Dolphins are more likely to win a game if Tyreek Hill is out injured as opposed to if Tua is out injured because the

Speaker 12 falloff is crazy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and the Dolphins are not alone in relying super heavily on their best player. What is J.J.
McCarthy's chances if Justin Jefferson gets hurt in Minnesota?

Speaker 5 I mean, there's a dozen teams teams of the league like that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but usually the risk is of health, and that one's random. This one's got more in it.
This one's not just health. This one, you can lose everything

Speaker 11 that was your head coaching career in the first four games if he doesn't actually have control of Tyreek Hill and if he doesn't actually have the respect of Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 11 And furthermore, if Tyreek Hill has actually lost the respect of that people, of those people in the locker room, because he did what no one does at the end of last season when it was down.

Speaker 11 When Tyreek Hill tells you he's just a winner, all he's known is winning.

Speaker 11 He loses poorly and throws a temper tantrum in public that every player feels and no player acts on because no other player is quite the baby that this person is.

Speaker 12 I'm afraid it feels pretty predictable how the Dolphins season is going to go. It's going to get undone by an injury to their quarterback and that'll be that.

Speaker 12 And then they'll have to reevaluate how they want to move forward with this franchise.

Speaker 12 I know they tried for so long to get somebody with the production of Tuas, but every season there's some sort of scare that makes you wonder if this guy can continue playing football.

Speaker 12 You have to almost include it in your projections that he's going to miss a few games.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't. I mean, he has had one season in five where he played all 17 games.
That's bad. It's bad, but there's

Speaker 5 a law of averages, right? I mean, there's no reason why he can't do it again.

Speaker 5 One of the reasons I.

Speaker 4 There is. His head.
His head.

Speaker 12 I think that there is plenty of reason why he can't do it is because of all the other injuries that he took.

Speaker 1 I'm with my dad. He's due.

Speaker 12 That's not how the law of averages works.

Speaker 5 He holds the ball a shorter amount of time than any other starting quarterback in the league.

Speaker 4 Ever. Right.

Speaker 5 So, you know, there are things in that offensive formula designed to prevent his getting future concussions.

Speaker 5 But the reason I think more highly of the Dolphins' chances this year than some do is the first half schedule is really easy, okay?

Speaker 5 And then it gets really tough with three games in a row, but all three of those games are at home.

Speaker 5 So I think there's a favorable schedule here for them to get off to an encouraging start that foments hope.

Speaker 11 Billy, were you making faces at the ability to do one loss on the Dolphin schedule?

Speaker 3 No, I would love to do one loss. We can go over it right now if you would like.
I was just going to say, I don't know if you guys caught the preseason game on Saturday, but Tua still.

Speaker 3 decides to scramble sometimes, which is kind of like, what are you doing, sir? Why do you continue to do this knowing? Especially in a preseason game that means absolutely nothing.

Speaker 11 Here is the most homorific paragraph from the Cody column on MiamiHerald.com, if you want to go behind the paywall. Tua, yes, Tua.

Speaker 11 Those are exclamation points. He rarely uses those.
It's true. It's when he really means it, okay? Yeah, eye tals, exclamation points.
Greg Cody does not often use the exclamation point.

Speaker 11 If I, if number of times in your historic 50-year column career, that give me a number, that you have used the exclamation point, do you believe?

Speaker 5 Well, it's a long-ass career, so I would say less than 100.

Speaker 5 And usually I use it in an ironic sense, like I use it to over-dramatize how I imagine people are receiving this.

Speaker 11 Tua, yes, Tua, the quarterback is a cornerstone. Reason for optimism and hope if you believe he can stay healthy.
I do.

Speaker 11 I really don't know how you can believe that. Like, how anybody can.

Speaker 11 It's not you. I just don't know.
I don't know how you can have faith in that. But okay, I do, says Cody.

Speaker 11 Tua is 38 and 25, 603 winning percentage as a starter. Justin Herbert, drafted one spot later, is 41-38, 52% winning percentage.

Speaker 11 Tua, in his career, has led the NFL in passing yard, completion percentage, and passer rating.

Speaker 11 QBs who have not led in all three categories in their careers include Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Herbert, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, and Dan Marino.

Speaker 11 None of this is to put Tua at that level, but to say when healthy, he has the skills to be a top 10 quarterback.

Speaker 5 Yeah, every word of that, I believe. I believe.
When you you lead the league in three categories, passing yards, accuracy, and passer rating, it shows you have the skill set.

Speaker 1 When you say all those guys haven't done it, though, I go, that must not be that important then.

Speaker 4 Because it was like Burrow, Mahomes.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 it's just to illustrate that.

Speaker 4 But are you living in an Echo, Greg?

Speaker 12 Because you could say some of the same things. Like every team that had Carson Wentz.

Speaker 4 Not not

Speaker 4 an echo chain. Echo chain over chain over.

Speaker 12 Every team that kicked the tires on Carson Wentz as a possible solution was saying similar things. Okay, I get that.

Speaker 5 And Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. I know there are anomalies in every formula you use to judge quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 What I'm saying is that, and we saw it when he was healthy two seasons ago and made the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 5 Win Tu is healthy, and granted, it's the biggest if, the biggest asterisk in all of sports, when two is healthy, he's really, really good.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying he's, you know, Joe Burke.

Speaker 12 Maybe it's that cold.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 5 you know, you lose a game in sub-temperatures in Kansas City. You know, I'm not.

Speaker 3 Well, they lose all those games. They lose the game in Kansas City.
They lost the game in Green Bay. They lose the game in Buffalo.
They do have a cold problem.

Speaker 5 Well, so do a lot of teams. Look at Kansas City and Buffalo's home record in December and January.

Speaker 4 Pretty good.

Speaker 5 You know, it's not just Miami that goes from hot weather to ice-cold and struggles.

Speaker 3 The good news is, is they play Buffalo week three

Speaker 3 at Buffalo, so they're not in the cold. What do you think of that one?

Speaker 3 I think that could be the only game.

Speaker 1 Jersey Knighter.

Speaker 5 I think that could be the only game they lose the first half of the season.

Speaker 4 Wow, okay, so

Speaker 4 win at Indy. Win versus New England.

Speaker 7 He lost Buffalo.

Speaker 3 Wynn versus the Jets.

Speaker 12 Dan and Greg, wouldn't you think that the upset here would be if Tua just finds a way to stay healthy the rest of his career?

Speaker 11 Yes, I don't know how Greg can say with any degree of conviction. If it was something you could bet on, he'd be a favorite to get hurt.

Speaker 12 Doesn't this one feel obvious? I feel like we've seen this guy on a field scare us enough times, and we've seen some fairly innocuous hits that have led to him being out for extended periods of time.

Speaker 12 I feel like we can say with certainty at some point that dude's going to become such a liability to put out there that teams are just going to decide he can't be QB1 anymore.

Speaker 11 I want to go over with you guys some of the thoughts that I have on a Cowboys documentary here that ended up being big and empty.

Speaker 11 But one of the things that was in it that was interesting and was one of the few things actually I was hoping to learn more during it that I learned during this.

Speaker 11 Troy Aikman's concussion problem that made him retire was so bad that he played an entire NFC championship game that he doesn't remember.

Speaker 11 He still doesn't remember playing in it, played well in it, won it,

Speaker 11 got to the Super Bowl because concussions were something that were so primitive back then that if you had four in 14 months and he was getting hit a lot in ways that weren't getting concussed.

Speaker 12 We didn't do enough with the close of two of those, the faces of that position in that generation, Steve Young and Troy Aikman. This was before concussions became a big thing.

Speaker 12 They They were faces of franchises and literally walked away from the game, and we just kept on moving. And it wasn't until Ben and Amalu and them boys started cooking it up.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but now we're going to have with two of us some things that are presented throughout the entirety of his career. Like, we're not that far removed from wondering whether he should retire or not.

Speaker 11 But let's move on to other things because there was a lot of stuff from over the weekend.

Speaker 12 Dan, we have closure on something, too. In investigative report, Jeremy has scoured the internet to get us answers on juniors, seniors, trays, and fours.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Ultimately, the way that this works is: if you're going to be a junior, junior, you do need the middle name to be a part of it.

Speaker 2 This is to decipher between people with entirely the same name, first, middle, and last name, or multiple last names. If the father is deceased, that's when you would go with II over junior.

Speaker 2 And then obviously, if you're going with further Roman numerals, it's ultimately further generations.

Speaker 2 But you would also go with II if it's going to be someone who is named entirely after another relative or person that you know. So

Speaker 2 there's all of your information.

Speaker 11 Can you give me some more information on Tua without Tyreek and Tyreek without Tua?

Speaker 2 Yes, I can. Tua Tagavailoa has a passer rating of 90.1 with 4,691 yards, 28 touchdowns, and 15 interceptions in 24 games without Tyreek Hill in his career.

Speaker 2 Tyreek Hill has had 50 catches for 567 yards and one touchdown in the 10 games for the Dolphins without Tua. So five catches for 56 yards and a tenth of a touchdown per game.

Speaker 5 In other words, Tyreek needs Tua. More than Tua needs Tyreek.
It's irrefutable.

Speaker 12 Thank you, Jeremy.

Speaker 2 One is stinky and the other is truly terrible.

Speaker 3 Now look up Tyreek's numbers with and without Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 And then we can see if Tua is better than Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 12 All right, we got to go back out there. That was big.

Speaker 5 Wake him up.

Speaker 11 Uh-oh.

Speaker 11 He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result.
He needs something that happens.

Speaker 4 You can see Mother FAIN.

Speaker 5 Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now?

Speaker 11 Turn on your microphone, Greg.

Speaker 4 My microphone's on.

Speaker 1 Stugats. Paint the scene.

Speaker 5 Paint the scene is I gotta go to work.

Speaker 4 Good night.

Speaker 11 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 11 Among the things that happened over the course of the weekend is Avery Johnson, the quarterback for Kansas State, that we learned together in an embarrassing public apology from Mike Ryan that he is mixed and not Scandinavian.

Speaker 11 It was a very confusing controversy from last week.

Speaker 11 Greg Cody doesn't know about it, so if you guys in the back room want to get Avery Johnson and that photo that had him looking like Dolph Lundgren, really, like Nordic, really, in nature.

Speaker 11 And then we learned that, no, he's mixed. And not only is he mixed, but, and this one is going to be something that we can't play.

Speaker 11 the video because there are a couple of videos from this weekend in sports that we simply can't play. One of them is Rampage Jackson's son and a video that

Speaker 11 might end up looking like you're witnessing a murder, a snuff film, because it's not even funny. It's just violence of the highest order.

Speaker 11 And then this story is, I think, just kind of funny and reminded me of Zaslow, who doesn't have any control over his kids, because Avery Johnson's father. It was an amazing headline to see, honestly.

Speaker 11 I didn't even understand it. I had to reread it a couple of times when I saw it.
Avery Johnson's father in fist fight with other son.

Speaker 11 And so the video is of a father and a son just fighting outside of the game. Football's back, people.
The violence is back.

Speaker 4 Kansas State lost.

Speaker 11 Kansas State lost with their quarterback. What are you shrugging your shoulders about and moving away from the microphone for?

Speaker 5 No, I'm looking at that photo and trying to process it. Like, who's hitting who?

Speaker 11 We cannot play the video here. We introduced you to Avery Johnson last week.

Speaker 11 We can't can't play the video because of, again, violence concerns, but it is a father, and that father appears to be beating up the son, right? The other son is getting beat up.

Speaker 11 The other, Avery Johnson's brother, is getting beat up there.

Speaker 12 Resets a clock for six months.

Speaker 12 According to the Zaszlo mansion rules.

Speaker 11 I texted Zaszlo this weekend because Zaszlo's son, 16 years old, referred to him as sugar tits the other day. And I just texted him, Zaz,

Speaker 11 when your your son says to what you think looks like the father that you are sugar tits, you are now the older brother. You have ceased being the father.

Speaker 11 Do any of you have parental relationships that would end up in a fight with one of your kids? My brother and I were always afraid of my father. We were afraid of his old man burst.

Speaker 11 I'm still a little afraid of it.

Speaker 11 He's in his early 80s and my father has a burst in him of rage, of old Cuban rage, that if I were going to fight him,

Speaker 11 I better make sure to take out his stamina because he's going to come at me, and I'm still a little afraid of it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're going to outrun him. That's what it'll take out his stamina.

Speaker 11 I'm going to have to do something, but do any of you have the relationship that would escalate to a physical one under any circumstance with your father?

Speaker 1 No, my dad's never wanted that noise.

Speaker 5 I mean, I haven't had a fist fight since middle school.

Speaker 11 No, but I've seen you when you get upset, and I've seen you when you and your son get physical, and I know you to be thinking that you're 20 years younger than you are so you probably who wins a fight you or your son?

Speaker 5 I mean I think he hopefully he would let me win if he cares about his inheritance, but I do possess old man strength. That's a thing.

Speaker 11 OMS, that's like a thing which I asked you a question. Who would win a fight between you and your son? You're 70.

Speaker 5 Okay, I cannot envision anything happening that would have us come to blows.

Speaker 4 You've gotten really mad at me.

Speaker 11 I've seen it. I've seen it when he grabs your elbow.
I've seen it when you grab his elbow and it gets...

Speaker 4 We're elbow grabbers.

Speaker 5 Okay, the only time I would be physically violent with either of my sons is if they have me in an arm lock and I say, let me go twice and they don't.

Speaker 5 And then I'm going to come at them with an elbow that might aim a little bit high.

Speaker 7 My dad's thing always been when we like rappy cack around.

Speaker 1 That's what he calls it, rappy-cacking.

Speaker 7 He'd be like, I'll break your arm.

Speaker 4 I'll break it off. Oh, he's a rappy-cacking.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's his thing. I don't know what is a rapper.

Speaker 11 What is a rappy-cack? Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebanard Show. Have you you ever used the word rapycack? Do you know anyone who has ever used the word rapycack?

Speaker 4 I do.

Speaker 11 Thank you, Greg.

Speaker 11 We're clear on that.

Speaker 5 Not just me.

Speaker 1 I got it from someone. How would you spell Rappyca?

Speaker 5 R-A-P-P-Y-C-A-C-K.

Speaker 11 And what is it? It's wheelhouse, baby. The rapycack wheelhouse.
And what can you tell us is the formal definition of to rapycack?

Speaker 5 If a head coach goes, we're going to rapycack that team. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 The very first thing that shows up on Google when you search for it is a Lebatard Reddit post from six years ago asking if Rappycack is a reference to a 1992 Buffalo Bills fan group.

Speaker 4 But I will keep looking.

Speaker 5 Rappycack originated.

Speaker 4 I have it as horseplay, not to cut you off.

Speaker 11 I've never heard the word before, Rappycack.

Speaker 1 I've never heard you say it in context of like that team's going to rappy cack them. It's always like, quit playing around, stop rapping.

Speaker 2 Next one is a tweet from Greg Cody in November 21st of 2017. Lobos update, Greg's Lobos, Rappy Cack Allison 109.9 to 93.4.

Speaker 11 So you go to bro, you're telling me you're searching the entirety of

Speaker 11 the internet. Of the internet as our information guy, and the only two proofs that you have that there is a word

Speaker 4 that it's not a word. What do you

Speaker 4 mean? World English origins.

Speaker 1 Who did you hear from? You were about to tell us.

Speaker 11 Can't find on the internet any references to anyone using the word.

Speaker 12 Was this found as evidence that Greg is keeping it alive? Is this another?

Speaker 1 Is this another Alan Cherry joint?

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 3 I found one from December 11th, 2017 also, Greg. Stunning.
Dolphins beating Patriots 27-20. Yeah, that too, I guess.

Speaker 3 But I met number eight seed Greg's Lobos rallying behind Jarvis Landy to rappy cat Chris Cody 120 to 117.4.

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