Hour 2: Best Friends (feat. Mina Kimes and JuJu Gotti)

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Speaker 10 This is the Don Labatar Show with the Stew Gats Podcast.

Speaker 2 Mina Kimes will will be here shortly. We look forward to all of her help during the football season.
She'll be around here plenty. Pitch Clock is again segregated on our show.

Speaker 2 It exists apart from our show, but adjacent to our show. We continue to segregate baseball.

Speaker 2 Pitch Clock will be in the post-game today, and Juju will be joining us here shortly to update the polls.

Speaker 2 I want to ask both Juju and Mina about their best friend situation.

Speaker 2 But I will tell the group here when I tell you that Zaszlo is a rising star at ESPN and ESPN Radio, he has been taunting Amber Wilson, his longtime co-host here locally, with pictures of the sweets he gets on the road now that he's traveling with college football every year.

Speaker 2 He's been taunting her with, look at how, not only first-class flights, somehow, somehow, Zaszlo's getting sweets at ESPN. And I will tell you, I got no sweets at ESPN.

Speaker 2 I don't know how Zaszlo is getting sweets.

Speaker 7 I would be on these stops late in the season. It could be in, you know, it was in Norman, Oklahoma.
It was in Tuscaloosa. It was in Atlanta.
You know,

Speaker 1 I hear Oklahoma is the worst.

Speaker 7 I mean, it was fine. I wouldn't say it was the worst.
I didn't like Baton Rouge. I was not a big fan of Baton Rouge.
Everyone, though, says that you got to go to a night game there in Death Valley.

Speaker 7 I do have a stop there this year. I'm hoping it's a night game.
But yes, first class tomorrow morning, all right. I'll be flying to Columbus and looking forward to the suite that I get.
That's right.

Speaker 7 Amber didn't believe me last year when I'm getting, I get to my room, she gets to her room, she's in a regular room, that's all great. I get to my room.

Speaker 7 There's a living area.

Speaker 7 There's a kitchen.

Speaker 7 One of these, it had a full table with 10 chairs.

Speaker 8 Oh, I'm...

Speaker 7 I'm not expecting any guests, but if I wanted a guest, they can come over and have a break.

Speaker 15 Dinner party.

Speaker 2 You could have a dinner party with that.

Speaker 7 And then in another room was my bedroom.

Speaker 7 And she didn't believe me. I was like, oh, you you don't believe it? I sent her pictures.
And she's in her nice little studio. And I can have a party if I feel like it.

Speaker 2 He's a rising star.

Speaker 15 That's my role.

Speaker 2 You can get him all over your weekend coverage on ESPN radio.

Speaker 8 10 a.m.

Speaker 7 Eastern Time, ESPN Radio, Saturday morning, college football tailgate.

Speaker 2 He is not, however, as big a star at ESPN as Mina Kimes is. Mina, do you get a suite when you travel on the road? Because I've never gotten a suite at ESPN.

Speaker 2 I can't believe that Zazzlo's out here getting sweets. And I'd have the follow-up question, any of those hotels, did the hotel lobby smell like chlorine because the pool is indoors?

Speaker 16 I don't think so.

Speaker 2 Okay, so you're getting good. You're getting good hotels.

Speaker 2 Mina, do you have any sweets? Do you get sweets when you travel on the road?

Speaker 17 No.

Speaker 18 Sweets? Like, you mean like a hotel suite, not like a little tree? Yeah,

Speaker 2 not a cookie at the double tree.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about

Speaker 16 an actual.

Speaker 2 They don't do it anymore. No.

Speaker 17 No, they still do. we're not with you

Speaker 1 anymore because you kicked Billy out of the studio so you can rip on Trump and ESPN.

Speaker 2 I kicked Mean out of the studio that day, too.

Speaker 6 It was really Nick Wright's fault if we're going to dissect the entire thing.

Speaker 6 He wouldn't have gone on Twitter that morning. We would have been in a different world.

Speaker 18 If you guys are deciding between hotels and one of them is a Double Tree, would you book the Double Tree solely for the free cookie, even though you should buy a cookie somewhere else? Great question.

Speaker 2 Put it on the poll, please, at Lebittard Show. If you're choosing between the hotels, is the Double Tree cookie the tiebreaker?

Speaker 12 I love that hot drawer.

Speaker 7 I'm in a Doubletree next weekend, actually.

Speaker 6 I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 Mina, we want to play for you here. Greg Cody getting furious with us earlier this week.

Speaker 2 I want to get your assessment here of what happened, who's right and who's wrong in the raging fury between Greg Cody and his son, Christopher.

Speaker 8 Wait a second. Oh, no.
They're going to be elbow strapped.

Speaker 14 No.

Speaker 4 They're going to be elbow strapped.

Speaker 14 He's furious.

Speaker 20 Don't say anything about it.

Speaker 10 I'm serious.

Speaker 20 I want my laptop back. I'm not the least bit amused by this.
I'm not kidding in how angry I am.

Speaker 2 I'm going to send them both to the penalty box.

Speaker 21 I'm not going to the penalty box.

Speaker 19 But together, I'll bring this. I want my computer right here

Speaker 22 before I do anything.

Speaker 20 No, I'm not going to the penalty box until I get my computer right here.

Speaker 2 You can bring it to me. This is fine.
This is good.

Speaker 20 No, you can bring it to me.

Speaker 2 Craig, you're going to stop that now.

Speaker 16 No, yes, you're gonna stop.

Speaker 19 No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 You're going to stop that now.

Speaker 20 No, no, I'm not.

Speaker 19 I'll leave.

Speaker 20 I'll go home if you want me to with my laptop, but I am not going in the penalty box until my laptop is connected to my computer. My son is, this is not your fault.
My son has gone over the line here.

Speaker 20 I am genuinely upset.

Speaker 14 We know. Okay, so how about make it right?

Speaker 20 Christopher, if I don't have that computer here in three minutes, I am not hosting the draft party Thursday night.

Speaker 4 Put the clock on the screen.

Speaker 8 Please, do it.

Speaker 20 I cannot express to you how serious I am about Thursday.

Speaker 19 All right. Yeah, I'm scared.
I'm worried. No.

Speaker 20 On my life,

Speaker 20 I am not hosting this draft party Thursday night. I've never been more angry connected with this show.
Anybody who thinks that's me is an idiot.

Speaker 20 On my granddaughter's life,

Speaker 20 on my granddaughter's life,

Speaker 20 I am not hosting this draft party unless I have that computer. Whatever number he said will not be where the dog is.

Speaker 16 Wait a minute.

Speaker 8 Oh, wait, now the number's changing?

Speaker 8 Maybe. Oh, no.

Speaker 20 Depending on how accurate he was.

Speaker 2 Mina, the context was he was mad that we were going to expose before it appeared in the Miami Herald where he ranked the Miami Dolphins for the season.

Speaker 18 Where did you rank them? Now I'm till I did.

Speaker 24 Well, it was 14th, but when I said the number 14, just guessing, he was like, I need to change it. So he made it 15.

Speaker 18 Wow. Wait, so is the, Greg, are you upset because of your afraid of invoking the ire of the fans or because you perceive this to be like an exclusive? Yes.

Speaker 2 Greg's not here, Mina.

Speaker 18 Oh, sorry.

Speaker 2 That's a video. That's how television works sometimes.

Speaker 16 We could have set it up.

Speaker 7 Maybe she thought it was a reenactment.

Speaker 18 It's really confusing, honestly, because the video does look like it's happening today.

Speaker 18 14 seems fair. That seems pretty generous.

Speaker 2 Not what I was asking you. Not surprising that that's what you decided to answer.

Speaker 12 Yeah, we establish a setup.

Speaker 18 My only takeaway from that video is that watching Greg discipline or try to discipline Chris is just exactly how I treat my toddler. And I'm glad to know that's not going to change for 25 years.

Speaker 2 What would be your assessment as a parent on Zaslow's home situation where his 16-year-old texts him and calls him Sugar Tits by way of dismissal?

Speaker 18 Is this a 16-year-old boy or a 16-year-old girl?

Speaker 19 Boy.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he has no respect for you.

Speaker 7 Well, how would your answer have changed if I said it was my daughter?

Speaker 18 I would have said that's funny.

Speaker 2 Mike Bryan, Mike Bryan threatened to kill ESPN yesterday if they break into college football coverage to show anything regarding the Big Dumper.

Speaker 25 Oh, wow.

Speaker 17 Look.

Speaker 12 I know we love RMs.

Speaker 17 All right.

Speaker 12 I know you love Cal Raleigh. I love him too.

Speaker 18 You're on my Mariners group chat. I let you into the circle.

Speaker 8 I'm following the story.

Speaker 1 I'm all about Big Dumper. I hated when Aaron Judge did this and ESBN wanted to interrupt AAC football for an Aaron Judge record.

Speaker 7 That's not the record. It's not a thing.

Speaker 1 Stop making the AL home run record a thing.

Speaker 7 It's not a thing.

Speaker 1 Now, I understand Yankees branding, that's the argument. There's no way in hell they do this for the Mariners.
No shot. And if they do, I'm going to kill them.

Speaker 18 Well, Cal's only at, what, 50 now? So I feel like there wouldn't, I mean, he has a few records to break. I think Switch Hitter is up next.
Mickey Mantle, 54.

Speaker 18 And then he can break Griffey's franchise record at 50.

Speaker 23 These aren't records.

Speaker 6 Remember when 50 used to mean something?

Speaker 12 No, I can't remember.

Speaker 6 You just said only 50.

Speaker 19 She did hit a record.

Speaker 16 What a world we live in. Only 50.

Speaker 23 Not a record.

Speaker 18 That is meaning that I don't think he's going to get the cut-in until he gets to 61 if he gets there. And then he probably will.

Speaker 18 But I probably won't. You're right.
Because it's the Mariners.

Speaker 18 Although we've been doing Mariners three days in a row on PTI, which I feel like is the most that ESPN has talked about the Mariners in probably since Griffey.

Speaker 2 How much PTI have you done? I didn't know you were on PTI. When did you start doing that? I literally have never seen you on PTI.

Speaker 18 That's because it's on ESPN too.

Speaker 12 The deuce.

Speaker 6 It's her and the Iceman.

Speaker 18 Yeah, Yeah, with the Iceman, because tennis is on ESPN one, so I get the call up for, you know, the B-team show.

Speaker 1 Let's be abundantly clear, and I'd love a judge's ruling on this.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 1 There is one single season home run record. It's 73.

Speaker 16 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hold on a second.

Speaker 4 The honorable Jonathan's. Hold on.

Speaker 2 He's a lawyer. He's a judge.
He's a race expert.

Speaker 24 Kind of undercutter in answering it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he already answered. He already made his ruling.
That sort of defeats what's happening right now. He forgot he was a judge.
Yeah, he forgot he he was a judge.

Speaker 2 He forgot we'd do a segment with a judge.

Speaker 18 See, the whole, if Cal gets to 61, right, let's just say, it seems a little bit, I think he's on pace for a little less than that.

Speaker 18 I'm going to be really torn because I don't want to be one of those, you know, old traditionalists, the drug-tainted records don't count. This is pure baseball.

Speaker 18 But if it's Cal Raleigh, I'm going to say those tainted records don't count. This is a true baseball player.
But only if it's Cal Riley. I wasn't doing that for Aaron Judge.

Speaker 7 The record is 73.

Speaker 7 Drugs in baseball

Speaker 14 are good

Speaker 4 with Frederick's.

Speaker 19 Forgive him. Oh,

Speaker 19 forgive it.

Speaker 18 I'm with you. Unless Cal gets there, and then I'm against you.

Speaker 2 I also think there is a great danger based on everything that we've just done is that someone in accounting realizes that Zaz isn't supposed to get a sweet, that he's getting a sweet, that he's not a good one.

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Speaker 18 Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what, what's going on with the platform?

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You may have noticed here that Pablo Torre is very proud of his New York Times partnership.

Speaker 2 Mina, I want to get your thoughts here on Pablo's debut video here, promising the New York Times and its

Speaker 2 readers, what they're going to get from Pablo. He's already wearing a New York Times shirt.
Get your thoughts here.

Speaker 19 Okay.

Speaker 24 Hello, Pablo Torre here, host of Pablo Torre Finds Out.

Speaker 29 Now, coming to you from our new home at the Athletic and the New York Times, where we will use our brand of Murrow Award-winning and Peabody-nominated journalism to investigate mysteries.

Speaker 1 It gets back to the ultimate question that we've been asking as it relates to this document.

Speaker 22 Why?

Speaker 29 Basically, we're a sports podcast in the same way that Moneyball is a baseball book, meaning that we tell you stories that are about a lot more than just the game if you show me a ring cam video

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 4 pablo what the f this is crazy

Speaker 21 i don't understand what possible is this true

Speaker 19 is this world truman show where are we what's going on we do interviews that'll make you think she's fearless in those moments i always joke that she would have hated me as a teammate and laugh but through all the pain and hopefully both i mean boom that's hard and it is so three times a week, follow us down the rabbit hole at Pablo Torre.

Speaker 29 Finds out. You can watch or listen on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 2 Can we call a coordinator?

Speaker 6 He says a hamburger a lot.

Speaker 29 I don't know if I've ever felt the feeling that I'm feeling. Okay.

Speaker 29 Love you.

Speaker 18 A lot of thoughts. A lot of thoughts.
First, Dan and I, despite doing dozens of episodes, yeah, dozens, didn't make the sizzle reel. Don't know if you noticed that, Dan.

Speaker 18 If you caught that, you and I, not featured at all there uh he compared himself to moneyball at one point did anyone else catch that basically

Speaker 18 himself to money ball uh the t-shirt i feel like pablo works out in a harvard shirt and then it's like oh this old thing is just laying around in my in my in my closet uh four i'm very excited for him because he's my friend i think they're gonna do a great job and i think it's a really great partnership so I have a question for you though about that Belichick ring video that he aired.

Speaker 12 How did the awards that he won, rattling them off, not make the list?

Speaker 1 That's impressive. That just tells you his brand.

Speaker 19 And his awards.

Speaker 18 There's one award that he won and one that he was nominated for.

Speaker 2 That's an important distinction. One that he won and one that he was nominated for, and both of them should have had better audio quality on that video.

Speaker 11 Like Edward R.

Speaker 2 Murrow, that was video and audio quality from Edward R. Murrow's age right there.

Speaker 2 But if you had to take a guess, Mina, did Pablo, when he recreated the Airbnb that Belichick emerged from shirtless, did he not do that himself in the recreation shirtless because he didn't think of it or because he would not be seen shirtless anywhere in public?

Speaker 18 It's a great question. It's 100% the second thing.
And it honestly discredits the entire video for me. When I first saw that and

Speaker 18 the way that he positioned it as like a recreation going undercover, and then I saw his shirt was on, I just turned it off. I didn't even watch it.

Speaker 18 I don't even know what happened in that episode, honestly, because the lack of commitment to the bit ruined it for me.

Speaker 2 Do you think Pablo, put it on the poll at Lebaturt Show, is Pablo someone who goes into the pool with his shirt on?

Speaker 11 I'm asking the,

Speaker 11 I think it's a sweater.

Speaker 18 A Harvard shirt.

Speaker 18 Pablo's looking good. How did I get here?

Speaker 18 I feel like Pablo is looking good for his age. I feel like

Speaker 18 he could have gone shirtless. I don't know.
I've never seen him shirtless.

Speaker 2 I want to talk football with you. We will get your sped up sounds and thoughts in a second.
I enjoyed hearing you on with Dave Damashek. That podcast, Football America, is going to be exceptional.

Speaker 2 As we head into the season,

Speaker 2 what do you make of the most interesting contract situation, whichever one it is you choose to make the most interesting?

Speaker 18 Well, two of three are resolved, right? Because you got the Terry deal and you got the Trey Hendrickson. pay raise probably going to be gone after this year.
So it's MICA by default.

Speaker 18 But can I say something? I don't find the Micah situation interesting at all.

Speaker 18 It would be interesting if there was a debate over whether to pay him.

Speaker 18 Like sometimes with these contracts, I don't know, you could say this about Dak Prescott, but certainly the case with Carrie McLaurin.

Speaker 18 You look at them and you understand to some extent why the team might have some hesitance if the player is asking for too much and they're older, things like that.

Speaker 18 Like, Chris, you could negotiate a Micah Parsons contract. Thank you.
All you have to do. I don't know why I said Chris.
Sorry, I went for you. You're right in front of me.
All you'd have to do.

Speaker 12 It's not that he's an idiot.

Speaker 18 All you'd have to do is find the highest paid Edge Roger contract and then add some money to it.

Speaker 18 It's like the fact that we're here is so dumb and transparently just Jerry Jones wanting attention or something or being unsatisfied the way business is done in 2025, I do not know, but it's not fun to talk about because there's nothing to debate.

Speaker 18 It's just stupid.

Speaker 7 Chris, Jerry Jones definitely takes takes you to the cleaners, though, right?

Speaker 15 Sitting here

Speaker 12 quite the brand you've established.

Speaker 2 Mina, I think I have it correct when I say that Micah Parsons, in terms of applying pressure when he's on the field, does it better than anyone by percentage? Do I have it wrong? Like,

Speaker 2 I read a stat, I don't know how long ago it was, I think it was at about 17.8%.

Speaker 2 He was a decent amount ahead of all the other rushers in terms of percentage of times he's disruptive.

Speaker 18 Him and Miles Garrett are pretty close, but over the last three years you're right he has led all edge rushers in pressure percentage pass rush win he's been the second most double team player behind uh micah or primary miles garrett so yeah he's that's again and he's like 26 or something there's

Speaker 18 it's not debatable uh the thing that i find kind of interesting is usually with these contract impasses you get inklings of like he's asking for a billion dollars and a share of the team and he wants the next Cowboys documentary just to be about him we haven't gotten those even those leaks which would suggest like you know the

Speaker 18 like the Cowboys have not put that into the

Speaker 7 atmosphere so I don't I don't know what the heck's going on Mina how how much does this have to do with the reputation of the agent as far as Jerry Jones not wanting to talk with him

Speaker 18 I mean, he represents a zillion players in the NFL and gets deals done all the time. Obviously,

Speaker 18 the Watson deal is the one that the agent Billy Guy is very known for because it will go down as one of the biggest mistakes in history by NFL franchise for a litany of reasons.

Speaker 18 But he's not like he did

Speaker 18 he does tons of deals all the time.

Speaker 2 I found that Cowboys documentary wildly disappointing. I had big expectations for it.
Didn't even finish it. Stopped after episode seven because they threw all that stuff in episode seven.

Speaker 2 They milked it for six episodes, way too fat, all Jerry Jones' story, and then I just quit on it after seven episodes.

Speaker 18 I thought about watching it, but then Love is Blind UK was calling to me like a siren, which, by the way, amazing season. Love is Blind UK for Billy.

Speaker 2 No, for everybody who wants to check out the Mina Kimes podcast featuring Lenny, she is obsessed with the show. Is it your favorite? It's your favorite to talk about.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I like it, but no, I have a TV recap show with David Dennis Jr. called Viewer Discretion, and we're doing a combination of that and Alien Earth right now.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 2 look at how exciting Mike Ryan is.

Speaker 23 Alien Earth!

Speaker 1 No, no, no, I just love the imaging that we made of Conor McGregor and Chris.

Speaker 12 He even found a way to get that quickly.

Speaker 23 Alien Earth!

Speaker 2 Chris, find for me the music that will speed her up so we can get to some football, but I do want to get her thoughts here. ESPN's Jordan Rodgers has carved out the lane as

Speaker 2 I'm the only Arch Manning critic. He is being critical of Arch Manning.
He's saying, the hype doesn't match the tape.

Speaker 2 There are good things and there are some good things, but the tape to me doesn't tell me that you've got a first-round draft pick or a top 10 pick or a number one overall draft pick.

Speaker 2 I think he's going to go into Ohio State and he's going to struggle because he hasn't played anybody. Zazzlos had the same opinion.
Mina seems terrified by this opinion.

Speaker 2 What's happening?

Speaker 18 How do you guys have strong opinions? We've barely seen the kid play football. He played two games against unraged opponents.
He came in against UTSA. I thought he looked good in that game.

Speaker 18 He also ran for 67 yards. That's the crazy thing about Arch Manning, right? He comes from the Manning family.
It's the Royal family, et cetera. He is an athlete out there.

Speaker 18 And I think that's going to bolster him early on, even if there are some ups and downs. The athleticism is very unique.

Speaker 7 That's what it is, though, Mina. I have a strong opinion against the strong opinion.

Speaker 14 We haven't seen him.

Speaker 18 Wait, that's good. That's good.
That's a great lane to carve out is the anti-hot take.

Speaker 2 Oh, but everybody, though, says he's good, even though we haven't seen him. So you're sitting here saying, how can you have a strong opinion?

Speaker 2 Well, there seem to be strong opinions that this is the best quarterback prospect there's ever been. That seems to be something that is a popular opinion.

Speaker 18 Well, I mean, those companions from the people who are actually in the know are based on like in the quarterback camps and watching them in high school.

Speaker 18 And I don't think anyone in this room has done either of those things.

Speaker 18 So I'm not going to take a strong stance about that because we're not comparing him to first round draft picks we're comparing him to prospects at this point and it's quite possible that he is as good as a prospect at least who is a team that's a lot better than people think

Speaker 18 um i will go with the i think the bears are going to be good but i think they're going to be really good in the second half of the season i think early on it could look a little up and down but i like the bears defense i think that everyone's talking about ben johnson in the offense but i think the defense hiring dennis allen was one of the best hires of the entire offense

Speaker 2 the gulf of difference between the worst team in the league and the Saints is what?

Speaker 18 The Saints are the worst team in the league.

Speaker 2 Who's the second worst team in the league?

Speaker 18 Probably Cleveland. I would say it's between like Cleveland, New York's defensive line is so good, it's hard for me to put them there.
So I'll go Cleveland.

Speaker 2 Nick Wright, your nemesis, says on Dan Patrick that he believes that the Chiefs are the single best team in the league.

Speaker 2 Is he a raging homer?

Speaker 18 He came on my show in July and ranked the Eagles number one. So

Speaker 18 I don't know what's changed between July and now, but I'm going to back check Nick Wright with his own words on my own show.

Speaker 2 Ooh, Nick Wright out here doing the Stugats of just telling everybody different things and having seven number one teams so he can be right at the end of the season. What is that?

Speaker 18 World of tape, I'm telling you. We did a power rankings episode and he picked, I gave him the choice.
Eagles or Chiefs and he picked the Eagles.

Speaker 2 True or false, the Chiefs are better this year, but they're going to have a substantively worse record.

Speaker 18 True, because last year, what they did, their record in one-score games, was like a historical aberration.

Speaker 1 Who will lead the NFL in passing yards?

Speaker 18 Joe Burrow, because he's going to have to, because he's going to have to score like 40 points a game at the beginning.

Speaker 12 Who's second?

Speaker 18 I'll go with

Speaker 1 one more.

Speaker 2 Give us a player who is going to explode, a name that's going to explode and grab everybody's attention this year

Speaker 18 i mean i think lad mcconackie is like

Speaker 18 yeah i i could not speak highly enough about him after reviewing him this offseason i think he's so talented and i think he's going to get more attention as being like a true number one receiver like one of those dudes this year mean a travis hunter will be what this year Primarily wide receiver because I failed to see the whole how the whole him playing both waves thing plays out to the extent that people think.

Speaker 2 Cam Ward's going to be what this season?

Speaker 18 Promising, inconsistent.

Speaker 18 But a lot of that has to do with his surroundings. Not the greatest group of receivers.
I think the offensive line will be better, but I really liked what I saw from in the preseason.

Speaker 18 He's going to be fun to watch, which is something they haven't had in Tennessee in a while.

Speaker 2 Shador Sanders is going to be what?

Speaker 18 Possibly a starter for a couple games at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 A wide receiver who's going to break out this season.

Speaker 18 I already did lad.

Speaker 18 Wide receiver is going to be. I think Roman Duze is going to be a lot better this year.
To go back to the Bears thing, I think that Ben Johnson is going to find really interesting ways to eat.

Speaker 7 Is Tyreek Hill on the Dolphins past the trade deadline?

Speaker 18 Yes, because I think the Dolphins will still be competitive.

Speaker 2 What's Belichick going to be at North Carolina?

Speaker 22 Mid.

Speaker 2 She's gotten good at the game of speeding things up. Mina, we look forward to talking to you this season.

Speaker 2 What are you pointing at us for?

Speaker 18 No,

Speaker 18 if it's something I don't actually want to answer, that's when I will give you the one-word answer.

Speaker 12 Oh, is that what happened?

Speaker 2 Okay, well,

Speaker 18 I got my whole, yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, then we're gonna replace you right now with a song by Jeremy about Bill Belichick and his copywriting of Gold Digger.

Speaker 3 Oh boy. Now, Chapel Bill Jamakin Gold Digger,

Speaker 3 and he ain't messing with no pop. Hello,

Speaker 3 Chapel, Bill Scorian, touchdowns.

Speaker 3 Chapel, Bill, Scorian, touchdowns. Chappelle, Bill, Score in, touchdowns.

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Speaker 3 She is Jordan. Met her on a flight he was on.
With college sex books on, logic and calm. She said, Do you wanna talk? Cause quite frankly, I'm drawn to your swag.
You gotta lock.

Speaker 3 I can tell by how sleeves on your arm. But I'm going up to North Carolina.

Speaker 3 I'm going back to college football. But then I'ma make this really awkward for these kids.
Cause I gotta date a girl their age while I got grandkids. Okay, so get this.
I'm beating with a thin.

Speaker 3 I didn't see the lens. When I got up in, I was shirtless then at the Airbnb.
Now I gotta show my nips for the whole world to see. And now I'm getting crushed by the media.

Speaker 3 But my girl got the skills to be my handler. While I deal with the college kickers and punters, I don't care what none of y'all say, I still love her.
Now, chapel, butcher, marking, gold digger.

Speaker 3 And he ain't messing with no Pablo.

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Speaker 6 Good job, Jeremy. I did my best.

Speaker 2 I had a minute.

Speaker 14 The word wasn't Pablo.

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Speaker 23 Tough.

Speaker 28 Travel, gifts, matching pajamas. Don't get me started on matching pajamas.
It's hot in Miami. My wife says, why don't you want to do this with us? My daughter's crying.

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Speaker 1 Folks, the leaves are turning. The weather's getting a little chillier.
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Speaker 16 There's sunglasses in boxes today.

Speaker 16 Putting my bed in the hospital.

Speaker 16 Ending our lives all the same.

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Speaker 10 This is the Dan Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 7 Thursday Thunder is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours.

Speaker 2 Juju won a couple of weeks ago. Thursday Thunder has been, I think, pretty consistently two for three.

Speaker 2 Like, if you were betting these individually, you'd be at about a 75 or 80% clip because Juju's very good at this.

Speaker 16 This guy doesn't get it.

Speaker 19 But that's not how it works.

Speaker 12 66% also

Speaker 16 adorable.

Speaker 19 I was going to say two out of three.

Speaker 16 He doesn't get it.

Speaker 25 He's so adorable. But yeah, man, last week we went two for three yet again.
A knife through the heart. But this week, we're going to write that shit, baby.
First leg.

Speaker 25 I'm going with my sister, the sharpshooter. She got her shooters back.
Brianna Stewart back. She got Emma Misiman over there.
I'm going with Sabrina Yonesco for over 5.5 assists tonight.

Speaker 25 Lock it in.

Speaker 25 Second leg, I'm going to Seattle. It's storming right now.

Speaker 17 I hear it. I hear the thunder.

Speaker 8 I hear it.

Speaker 2 It is storming.

Speaker 25 Yes, sir. And it's going to be storming a lot of NECA Aguma K points tonight.
I'm going over 16.5 points for my sister, Madam President, tonight. Last leg, Alyssa Thomas, MVP candidate.

Speaker 25 Man, she's been on a roll lately, and I think she's going to keep it rolling tonight against the sky with over 9.5 rebounds tonight. Lock it in.

Speaker 2 Juju, your dream last night.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Juju.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 That's the biggest game, the biggest home game, and I don't know how long. Are you okay?

Speaker 25 I am extremely distraught, let alone like the game was so close. And in that third quarter, Asia Wilson woke up with two threes out of nowhere.

Speaker 25 The crowd, the home crowd, our home crowd was louder for the Vegas Aces than they were for our big dogs. I do not stand for it.
My sister, Ryan Howard, spoke out against it last night. Salute to Ryan.

Speaker 25 Total heartbreak, though.

Speaker 2 We're going to get to polls here in a second, but the Athletic is reporting that ESPN is demoting Hall of Famer Doris Burke off its NBA Finals team and promoting Tim Legler.

Speaker 15 Finally.

Speaker 19 Oh, man. Right?

Speaker 2 Juju, did you have any interesting thoughts on anything that we were discussing today?

Speaker 2 Did you have any thoughts on Chris Cody saying he has no best friends, but an alarming number of general friends in his inner circle? That's right.

Speaker 25 Right. It made me think.
And I really, I was trying to go through my list. I don't have a best friend either.
I had a best friend and he was taken from us way too soon.

Speaker 25 And I think about him all the time. I got his name tattooed on my face.
But yeah, I don't have a best friend either. So I think it's just a growing pain.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. That's, we've already established on this show.
That's a penalty.

Speaker 4 That's not a penalty.

Speaker 19 It's not a penalty.

Speaker 2 No, if he had a best friend, but his best friend died. You don't just replace your best friend with another best friend.

Speaker 1 Well, then just say you don't have a best friend.

Speaker 19 Okay, no.

Speaker 12 Don't drama dump on me, sir.

Speaker 7 Nobody's trying to hear that.

Speaker 25 Tuesday, Tuesday.

Speaker 2 Dismissed again.

Speaker 8 Got my own problems.

Speaker 2 The dismissals were very popular

Speaker 2 this year. What do you have for us on dismissals, Juju?

Speaker 25 Billy Gill, man.

Speaker 25 I think this might be the earliest nominee for the next year episode

Speaker 25 That Billy had bruh you took out David Sampson before the break in the best dismissal for 2026 winner already already you're wait a minute already already

Speaker 17 talking to later I know

Speaker 25 it was magnificent and the YouTube chat loved it

Speaker 2 What do you have for us in the way of polls here today, Juju? I didn't feel like we had very many of them today.

Speaker 25 Yes. Our kids ingrates?

Speaker 25 89% of the audience says, Yes, they are.

Speaker 17 Of course,

Speaker 25 that blazer is looking great on you, my brother's ass.

Speaker 17 Thanks.

Speaker 25 Thanks, Playa. Extremely, extremely, Playa.

Speaker 25 Do you have a best friend? 72% of the audience says, Yes, they do.

Speaker 12 Anyone else have someone die?

Speaker 16 Can we move on?

Speaker 25 I'm going to serve my penalty on Monday. Is the mercury in a thermometer poisonous?

Speaker 25 94% of the audience says yes, it is.

Speaker 19 Say, Billy?

Speaker 2 But it's not poisonous. It's poisonous if you ingest it, right? It's not poisonous, though, if you just get it on your hands or anything, right?

Speaker 2 It's only if you have it. Like,

Speaker 2 why would you have mercury that you're just swigging?

Speaker 7 Okay, but that's a given that it's if you ingest it. Like, you know, a rattlesnake has poisonous venom.
Yeah, if it bites you, not just if you're around around it.

Speaker 6 It's a given. You could survive a rattlesnake bite, Zaz.

Speaker 3 You should try. Show me.

Speaker 2 How is it that you survive a rattlesnake bite? Somebody says.

Speaker 6 I was trying to get to him to get bit by a rattlesnake, but he beat me to it. Guys got a sharp tongue that Zaz is.
Outsmarted, you ass.

Speaker 25 Also a sharp blazer. The last poll, are farms cool?

Speaker 25 67% of the audience says, yes, they are. And those are your polls.

Speaker 2 What the hell would be wrong with farms? I'm still not not understanding why it is that you guys brought that up today, and then no one had any further explanation on why it is.

Speaker 12 Pharmageddon.

Speaker 2 I know, but

Speaker 2 why would we cancel Pharmageddon?

Speaker 7 The hot tip is that the Big 12 are the ones who are uncomfortable with it, but no one seems to know why.

Speaker 6 K-State denied being involved in asking that they stop calling it that. So now it's Iowa State that we're looking at or the Big 12.

Speaker 2 I should tell people, incidentally, because we're doing so much in the way of football coverage,

Speaker 2 that Football America is going to be a very good show. Like, I can already tell how good that's going to be.

Speaker 2 Mina and Rossini are going to be on with us all season, so we're going to get ramped up on all matters football here in a way over the next couple of weeks that I find disconcerting.

Speaker 2 I find Mike Ryan is already yelling at me that I'm talking about dirty things, even though that I was just saying that we are all physically dirty at the end of this weekend.

Speaker 2 He's getting mad in defense of Urban Meyer and other dirty college people that I would call his sport dirty.

Speaker 1 Stop calling it dirty. Stop referencing the business of college football.

Speaker 28 Let me enjoy a week.

Speaker 2 Okay, you can enjoy this week.

Speaker 1 I have a Lee Corso tattoo.

Speaker 1 Let me say goodbye to my hero.

Speaker 2 I didn't know you had a Lee Corso tattoo. Now you do.

Speaker 16 Now you do.

Speaker 2 Let me see your Lee Corso tattoo. It's fan fiction.

Speaker 1 It's him wearing a Sebastian the ibis uh

Speaker 1 headgear that he's can you lift up your leg a little higher i'm sorry i'm trying dog i'm 40.

Speaker 1 i did not know that you had a lee corso tattoo hang on let me see if i do should i put it in a stationary place yeah how do you not know that about me uh we're nailing this right now i don't know

Speaker 2 i don't know any of your tattoos i do get the mic i do think and i don't mean to hamstring shame you but i do think your hamstring needed a little bit of help there on this on the stretch i think that was a lot of inner thigh

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