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We will get back to the silly stuff in a few minutes, but I did want the listeners of this show to get at least a little bit of information because we're so fractured about how it is we consume things these days.

Everyone has their own form of media.

And in and among Hispanic communities, the way that folks are getting their news these days more than ever is TikTok.

It's not Telemundo.

It's a lot of Hispanics in this country are getting it through TikTok.

And if you don't know what's happening in this country,

immigrants, exiles, Latinos are scared, I think.

And so, Carlos Eduardo Espina is a TikTok journalist.

I'm going to call it.

Thank you for joining us, Carlos.

If you want information on what it is that we're going to be talking about, you can follow him across all social media platforms and at Carlos underscore Eduardo Espina.

So, thank you for joining us.

And just tell us how it is you're getting your news to people because you're a bit of a new kind of journalist.

Yeah, no, well, thank you for having me.

I mean, this is something that started five years ago during the pandemic it almost started as you know just an accident i was born at home started making videos about citizenship classes and it just blew up during that big boom that there was on social media in early 2020 and since then i've been making 10 up to 15 or 20 videos a day just you know constant news and opinions on everything that's going on and how do i stay informed i'm always reading you know different news sites i'm always on different platforms a lot of also community journalism people will just send me videos of what's going on on the ground and i'll react to it, respond to it.

So just a bunch of different ways of getting information out there.

But now with social media, everything is so fast-paced, you always have to be, you know, on the lookout for what's next, what's happening, and put it out in front of the audience as soon as possible.

So tell us, what's the information you're getting on the ground that is real, that is factual, about ICE raids in this country?

That I think most

rational human beings watching these ICE raids can know that this isn't what America is supposed to look like.

Yeah, so very early on, you know, during when Trump just assumed office, there was a lot of people who were hopeful.

They were like, hey, you know, this is, they're only going to go after the worst of the worst criminals and, you know, the people who have committed horrible crimes, which I think everyone agrees with, right?

No one wants people who have committed horrible crimes in the country.

But then the video started coming out of, hey, you know, I was at this gas station and they just picked up a bunch of guys who were looking out for work outside of the, or you know, outside of Home Depot or all these other places.

And a lot of these videos have only come to light because there's just someone, you know at the right place at the right time or maybe at the wrong place at the wrong time just pulling out their phone and recording it putting it on social media sending it to bigger accounts like myself so we can amplify it and you really do see a lot of the unfiltered i mean some of the videos i can't even show on my platforms just because they're so uh strong that you know the with censorship and with community guidelines and all that but i think that community uh journalism just very on the ground is really what has moved uh you know a lot of people but what what can't you what can't you show what do you feel people are not hearing or understanding about what's going on with these raids if they're only consuming traditional news

yeah i think a lot of times it's very sanitized what ends up like on actual news for example if you have an instance of a agent beating up someone or you know using language that's not appropriate for social media um you know you can't really show that so you have to censor you have to kind of explain around it but there are other platforms for example i found uh so i started on tick tock but i found that youtube is also um you know a lot uh more basically, you can post a lot more without censorship.

So, over the past few months, I've grown a lot on YouTube as well.

But it's really just trying to get that raw video out there, and then people can form their own opinions.

They can see with their own eyes what's going on.

And like you said, I think most people come to the same conclusion that while immigration enforcement is necessary, the way it's being done right now is just completely out of hand and not okay.

Can you talk about the impact of the fear and the chaos going on in these communities caused by these raids?

Yeah, so I think

what many people didn't expect, especially Latinos who voted for Donald Trump, is they didn't realize, you know, or maybe they did, they just didn't think it would impact them that the Latino community is just so, you know, lean so much on each other that, you know, we have our own restaurants, our own places to go party, our own, you know, everything, our own businesses.

And so when the ice raids really started picking up, a lot of Latino businesses took a huge hit because people weren't going out as much.

They're not eating out.

They're not, you know, basically doing the day-to-day stuff that they usually did.

And so a lot of business owners are now, you know, debating whether to shut down.

Some people have already had to shut down.

And a lot of times it's people, you know, who supported Donald Trump because they thought the economy would get better under him.

But the economy, at least within the Latino community, is not getting much better.

And many of these small businesses particularly are being hit very, very hard.

Can you explain what someone's rights are,

immigrant, bystander, anyone's rights if they're caught up in an ICE raid?

Well, so that's the thing is, right?

You know, a lot of preparation for all this that was going to happen is, hey, you know, we have these rights that must be respected.

You know, you have the right to ask for an attorney, ask for a warrant.

You know, you can record stuff.

But we've seen, and I think this is what really caught the attention of many people, agents who maybe are poorly trained or just don't care, who are just violating people's rights, you know, blatantly.

And it's being caught on camera.

And you have organizations like the ACLU.

I mean, when you see those instances of people's windows being smashed, you know, you would tell someone, hey, you know, you have the right to stay in there until they show you a warrant.

You can call your attorney.

but that's not really being followed.

So I think right now it's very, we're in uncharted territory almost.

I mean, we've seen people be arrested for recording law enforcement, which once again is not illegal.

You can, if I see border patrol, you know, doing a raid somewhere I'm at, I can pull out my phone and record, but even that's being, you know, attacked.

So it's very hard to tell people what, you know, what's permissible now because we have what the Constitution says, what the law says, and then what's actually going on.

on and unfortunately they're two different things.

Carlos, do you ever look back?

Because obviously you're doing very important work.

Do you ever look back to 2020 when you were bored on TikTok before you do your first video and you're sitting there and you're like, I could do a dance, I could cook, or I could talk about immigration.

And then you decided, you know what, this is the route I'm going to go.

You ever look back and think, what if I did cooking or dancing or anything like that?

Yeah, so that's exactly the reason why I didn't go on TikTok until that late on because it was already

started blowing up.

Yeah, in 2019.

But I remember my friends would send me TikTok videos I'm like this is like the dumbest app ever I thought it was like you know for like like it was when Charlie D'Amelia was blowing up and all and I was like I don't really care about this but when the pandemic came so before the pandemic I used to volunteer every weekend teaching citizenship classes in person you know I would be like 10 15 people show up to my classes but then we couldn't get together in person anymore so that's kind of where the idea came was like hey maybe I should start doing stuff on social media.

I started on Facebook, but people were like, hey, you should try TikTok.

And I was like super anti-tik tock i was like you know what i'm gonna cave i'm gonna do one video on tick tock and my first video just blew up and i was like wow this is actually a very powerful platform and i realized you know that on social media it's not so much the platform it's you know if there's content out there that you don't like you can create your own content and there'll be people that like it as well so that's how i found my niche and it went very well uh Chris Cody says that's what pays the bills.

He's like, I was anti-TikTok.

Now he's like, let's go, TikTok.

You found your niche, but what if you would have gone quiche?

You know what I mean?

No,

I mean, it's just, it was, it was really interesting.

The growth

because, you know, TikTok was just so revolutionary in that sense, where a lot of people, like myself, we were very against it.

But we realized, you know, the issue is not the platform itself.

It's just that when it was so new, the content that was on there just wasn't that diverse.

And now you have like all types.

You have attorneys are on TikTok.

You have, you know, journalists are on TikTok.

I mean, there's all kinds of content, and it's such a great platform now.

But what if you were like the immigration rights dancer, you know, and you're

dancing videos while giving information.

People have proposed, I mean, they've told me like, hey, you know, you should open up

some other platforms as well.

And I don't give into that.

But yeah, I mean, it's interesting.

People, there's like, I don't know if you've seen, there's an attorney.

He's like, he shows up with like all this jewelry and all these rings.

And, you know, he's got his own style.

So I think that's the cool thing about like TikTok.

It's allowed a lot of people who weren't content creators, who never try to be be content creators become one and then just kind of find their their own i guess area on on the platform but how does this work the news cycle doesn't stop raids are continuing around the clock uh you are taking a break in the middle of this because i am i imagine that yes it's business but you're also doing work uh i don't know to protect hispanics

Yeah, so it's like a 20, it's almost like, you know, social media is really interesting where it's not like a traditional job where you like, you have a set schedule.

It's mostly like in between things, you know, I'll be at different events or at meetings, but I'll be checking my phone constantly or even be out with my family.

And I'm like, you know, hey, I need to check my phone real quick in case something happened.

And there's been many occasions where I'm like, let's say, for example, you know, at a dinner, I'm like, hey, I have to step outside real quick to make a video.

So it's not like I have a set schedule.

It's most like, you know, sometimes things just happen.

I mean, one very big example of this was I was on the way to Miami for the Copa Medica final last year.

And right as I was about to board my flight, that's when they did the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

And I was like, wait, I can't miss it.

So I had to cancel my flight, rebook it.

And I was like inside the airport making all these videos.

I made like, you know,

minute-to-minute coverage on what was going on.

But I guess that's just part of the job.

It is what it is.

He is the Adam Schefter of How Do You Pass the U.S.

Citizenship Test.

It is a strange way to go viral.

It's not the way that most people do it.

I do wonder, though, where do you believe most of the misinformation, confusion about what's going on is coming from?

Because I don't think most reasonable people, if I present them with some of your videos of like, look, do you think your landscaper

friend should be treated like this?

I think most Americans would be appalled.

Yeah.

So I think, you know, one thing I've learned over the years is most people who are, you know, in support of what's going on right now are not bad people.

I think they just grew up in different environments and get different sources of information that maybe they haven't been exposed to what's really going on and I mean that is in the sense of you know I grew up in college station Texas it's pretty conservative I have a lot of friends who voted for Donald Trump and over the past few months like they will be playing soccer whatever they'll come up to and be hey you know like I didn't really know like this is the extent of what was going on you know I thought like they were they genuinely thought they were gonna go after like the worst of the worst criminals you know what's being shown on Fox News what Donald Trump is saying in his speeches and when you start to realize like hey you you know, it's actually like my friends, my coworkers, people I know.

And that's why I think the work that I do and many others are doing is just so important because I think this country is fundamentally made up of very good people who a lot of times just don't have, you know, the full information.

And there are people who genuinely think, you know, these raids are targeting the worst of the worst, which in some cases is true, but in the majority is not.

That's one aspect.

And the other aspect, too, is like social media has gotten completely out.

out of hand.

And I say that as a content creator.

I mean, you said in the beginning, like, you know, most people, especially Latinos, are getting their information information on social media.

I guess that's good for me, but I think as a society, it's not very good.

And the reason why is there's just so much misinformation.

And now, with artificial intelligence, it's gotten completely out of hand.

I mean, people use my image, for example, they'll make like this wild video of, oh, good news.

You know, if you pay this guy $500, he'll get you a work permit in an hour.

And everyone's like, wow, wow, Carlos is saying it.

So it must be true.

And I'm like, that's not me.

It's artificial intelligence.

But especially when you have older people who maybe didn't grow up in that environment, they can't tell.

And it just, there's so many layers to, you know, the misinformation, disinformation, just fake news, artificial intelligence, all that.

I think it is very dangerous to have a society that relies solely on social media for their information.

And I say that as someone who has in many ways benefited from

this landscape.

But therein lies the problem.

You say that a lack of information is the biggest issue here, but you're not even getting true information from the administration themselves.

It's been reported that up to 71% of the arrests that ICE have made are people with zero criminal background.

And when pressed on this, the administration says that's not the case.

So how do people actually get access to information when we're in a post-truth world?

Yeah, well, that's the question I struggle with the most because, you know, on social media, there's just so much information that you can be very selective.

And, you know, for example, my algorithm is very, you know, slanted into one way.

I'm sure other people's are slanted in other ways.

And I guess the question becomes is how can we, you know, step away from social media as much as possible and actually have genuine face-to-face conversations?

And I think that's where the real difference is made because what social media has created is almost these echo chambers where, you know, people are being fed the same stuff over and over again.

And if you're fed 100 videos of Donald Trump saying, oh, we've only gotten all criminals and there's no hardworking, good people in the in the raids, well, then you start to believe that.

And so I think, you know, how do you break that structure?

it just takes you know meeting people where they're at trying to as best as possible and a lot of times face-to-face interactions the only way you can really break through because otherwise it just becomes an impossible task Carlos thank you for being on

yeah go ahead I'm sorry no no I'm saying I know that's a very like gloomy answer like very dystopian answer but I am really worried for the future not of just of our country society in general you know with everything going on on social media technology AI and all that so we'll see how things end up you're worried are you?

You're worried.

Yeah, I am.

Yeah, look at you.

You're on the middle of a sports show, and look at what we're talking about.

Why would you be worried about that?

Oh, that's what sports are for, right?

That's the, I mean, I love to play, I play soccer every weekend, every day almost, to distract myself from what's going on, at least from an hour or two.

So, keep up the good work.

That's always important.

You too, thank you for being on with us.

You can follow him across all social media platforms at Carlos underscore Eduardo underscore Espina.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

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Rachel.

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This is the Dalebatar Show with the Stukats.

I am seeing all over my televisions in here, Lee Corso.

Are we going to actually do this correctly this weekend?

We're going to have a giant game one football weekend.

Haven't we, like, yeah, we did it.

We got here.

How do they screw it up?

They kick him in the ass on the way out?

No,

no, I'm just saying that Lee Corso, being a big story, the big story, we're going to allow someone to age with grace.

As we ran one president out of office for getting old and the other one dies in front of us, hiding his ankles from us and is also senile.

We're going to let Lee Corso on television get old gracefully and send him off correctly.

Did you just make a prediction?

That'd be in the Suez next year.

I don't know.

Let's ask Amin.

Got to be worried about the whole.

Let me not say it.

Never mind.

Why'd you make it?

Go on with your show.

Why'd you make it about that?

That felt gratuitous.

Just about Lee Corso.

You've got multiple 80-year-olds wandering around out there.

We're questioning the mental health of 80-year-olds.

People are comfortable mocking the old.

Dick Vitale has been a polarizing figure for the we're celebrating Lee.

We're celebrating you.

You keep doing that.

Like, we did that.

Like, 10 years ago, people were having their go at Lee, and he had to admit,

I think over the last few years, it's actually been a beautiful thing.

People understand what they're seeing on television.

Everybody knows that Lee Coruso has been battling through stuff.

Everyone sees the beauty in that friendship that is on that set.

Well, and they haven't forced it, right?

Because he hasn't been on every single week.

He'll do like a couple sets.

He'll do like a couple.

No, he's there most weeks, but he'll do like a segment or two.

They've been sunsetting him over the course of a few years on that show.

Has it had its hiccups because he's had his challenges?

Yes, I think the internet, which is generally a cruel place, has been kind of understanding when it comes to this one to the point that we're going to have this beautiful moment.

He's probably going to have some struggles in that broadcast because he's had struggles in almost every broadcast over the last few years.

And I think people will be understanding, appreciative, grateful, and loving.

It's just nice to see, is all I'm saying.

I wonder how they're going to do it because normally, you know, they end the show with him making the pick, right?

Which they will.

Yeah, they will.

I like that.

That'll be.

They're going to go about it as if everything is normal.

I don't, I don't know.

Herbie is going to be a puddle of emotions.

They'll bring Fowler out at some point, old friends.

Gooseys.

Yeah.

It's going to be incredible.

You can't put on the Longhorn helmet, though, in front of the Ohio State.

They're going to boom him.

That'd be great.

One last rib on the way out.

He gets booed.

Because everyone, he did Brutus first, right?

So everyone is just assuming he's going to go Ohio State.

I love that.

I would Zag.

I'm with you.

Zach?

I would Zag.

Stugats?

Zigging?

All right.

I thought you said you were with Zag.

I got confused for a moment there.

Yeah, we all did.

Everyone's expecting something.

I would Zag.

And I was called Stugatz earlier.

Steve Martin.

Also, a prop comment.

Huh.

Betty White's situation is not going to happen.

We're three days away.

We're good.

I hope so.

That's a prediction.

Whoa.

I'm saying it's not.

I'm putting it out there because you guys are all throwing out there, and I'm saying that's not going to happen.

No, I don't think anybody's going to be.

That's all I'm saying.

Just like Dan was only saying that it's beautiful what we're doing.

That's all I'm saying.

I concur.

That's probably not going to happen.

Yeah, I hope not.

I'm not going down this glib path.

I don't know why you even said that.

But I don't think it changes the program.

I don't.

Well,

it's going to drastically change the program.

It's a more viewers.

No, no, no.

It's going to be a celebration of his life, and the only thing that'd be missing.

Well, I'm not doing that.

A celebration of his life.

That's what I'm saying.

It shouldn't be done.

It shouldn't happen.

They would get more viewers.

I don't think so.

Let's not do that.

No, we're not.

How are the ratings going to be?

Are you guys actually interested in this?

Because many people object to all the ratings talk out here, but I'm interested in what the competition between these two shows become.

I don't give a flying rat's ass about the competition between the two shows.

I will see social clips of Big Noon.

I don't care about the ratings.

I hope it does a great number just because that's great for that show and Lee Corso.

I only care about saying goodbye to one of television's greatest morning heroes.

What if Lee Zach and next week two he's on big noon?

And this is all

put on the whole time.

Then he goes to big noon.

His contract actually just expired and he just goes to big noon.

The real big heel turn.

The real question is, did they offer it?

Obviously, he'd say no, but did Fox reach out of like, hey, week two, you're with us?

It'd be cool.

That would be a movie.

Do you remember when Ravishing Rick Roode showed up on Nitro and Raw in the same week?

Same night.

That was crazy.

Crazy.

Corso has

the type of swagger about him and that he could just walk onto that Fox set

and get a tribute from him.

Look, they're both

to the wrong set.

No, no, no, no, Wanders.

Like, with intention, all right?

With intention.

He just goes over to Fox and he's like, a lot of you guys, Rinaldi, Felica, you all used to be here.

You know what?

He might get confused.

You know what Rinaldi needs to do?

What Rinaldi needs to do for Big Noon is Big Noon needs to also pay tribute to Lee Corso.

Yes.

Because there is no Big Noon without College Game Day.

We all know this.

They should send people over at 9 at whatever it is, 11.45.

Hey,

you come back next week, but you go pay respect to Lee Corso.

Everybody, Rob Stone, like it should be simulcast.

Yes.

The final headgear should be simulcast.

We will be silent for the next 12 minutes.

Then they all sit there.

That's what Portnoy's going to go do.

Yeah.

Reverend them.

They respect them.

Lee Corso.

You're right.

They should.

They should.

We will now be silent, and then they all just sit there in silence.

And Urban Meyer just stares straight ahead with a guy in a bong in a mirror smoking something as he talks or doesn't talk.

Dirty, dirty urban.

I still revisit that video where he's telling the dude to get out of the way on the boat.

What's going on there?

It's a great.

The Urban Meyer catastrophe.

The Urban Meyer catastrophe in the prose.

The guy in the mirror seems to be having a great time.

But wait a minute.

For everyone to know how that was going to fail and then for that to fail like, you know, with pictures in a barn in Ohio State with a guy in a mirror smoking a bong on a yacht while he does an interview.

It's just like what you have to be as a head coach.

And what we knew about him in front of the press conference backdrop was Urban Meyer is a certain way.

He got success.

He's kind of like the dictator ruler of this program.

He's got health issues.

He had to step down because of just a health issue.

In the end, dude loved a party.

I'm sure he'll stop on Saturday to honor Lee Corso.

We will now be silent for 12 minutes.

They should say, look, we're going to make our predictions here.

We understand we're trying to build something here at big noon.

But head on over to ESPN.

It's a great idea.

I would be more likely to tune back in next week to Fox if they did that.

I would say classy from ESPN.

I would give them a standing ovation in my living room.

Wow.

Now, I'm not watching the show regardless, but if I saw that clip, I'd be like, okay, good on you.

Good on you guys.

That's what I'd say.

And the way that you guys watch television these days, as we go into one of these dirty weekends to get ready for football.

Stop doing that.

It's not a dirty weekend.

It's an awesome weekend.

First weekend since 1945 we've had this.

It's all up.

There's such an uptick in vibes right now.

This is beautiful.

This is not dirty.

You misinterpreted what my dirty meant.

When I said one of these dirty weekends, I meant that the people who listen to this show will spend a weekend on their couch watching non-stop football

and not showering.

So smelly.

We're headed into Red Zone Sundays, and this is the warm-up.

The warm-up is three

games with top 10 teams and also Lee Corso kicking it off, leading you to Arch Manning.

And that game, and when I asked the question, as everyone gets all excited about college football,

the network that has the game is not the one with Lee Corso, correct?

So coming out of...

So you have to change channels in order to find Lee Corso's moment.

And before a game...

To find the game, I'd say.

They'll probably be on Corso.

Yeah, when you assume the automatic moves.

I'm asking you guys, so the changing of a channel is not really something we do now in modern age where we go to a television at an appointed time.

I think we can handle handle it.

I think we can handle it too, but what I'm asking you is the game usually dictates whether you get the numbers before the game.

That's usually how that works.

I've been conditioned because Fox with their Big Ten package always prioritizes that noon window, much to the frustration of the Big Ten fan base.

I think more often than not over the last few years, I see the headgear and I switch to the next channel or I go to whichever game I'm betting on, which for me is the biggest game of the week.

You get that YouTube TV, you get the four boxes.

I think also like the big game is never on ESPN after college game day.

So you're just kind of used to that routine on Saturdays.

You're never like, okay, now I'm going to stick to ESPN, and it's true.

Minnesota.

And it's like, this is not the big game.

Yeah, it's always Saturday nights.

Yeah.

You're right.

And are we at a point now, given what network and cable television is or the way that people watch this, that you're not excluding the poor when you say you've got multiple devices?

You're watching.

You're addicted to action.

And so

if you've got a television, you've also got your device working in a way that allows you to watch both things at the same time if you want to.

We're born for this.

We've been conditioning for this weekend.

You know, in 1945, the last time they had this top 10 matchups to start a season, I'm sure

they were flummoxed.

I mean, there's enough games on regular television starting in the afternoon that you don't need to get crazy with the subscription services.

There's still enough games.

I don't know.

I think YouTube TV has till five o'clock today to settle a dispute with Fox.

I was just saying, isn't there something going on as well with the ABC affiliate down here?

ABC is channel 18.

So we want to watch, yeah, because it's now owned by the P the Sunbeam Television locally.

This is inside.

That owns Channel 7, the Fox affiliate down here.

One affiliate owns two of the networks.

Just tell me where to go to watch my games.

Channel 18.

Just

have, you'll find it.

Just say sports in your remote.

Put it on the poll.

Mike, come change my channel.

It's very easy.

And then it will be like,

the Premier League, it's a disaster.

Brighton and Hove Albion.

Oh.

Bite me and Cove?

What?

No.

No, Chelsea FC.

No, not Chelsea Handler.

Don Lebatard.

We were talking to and about

Freddie Gibbs, and then Greg Cody made an appearance, and Chris Cody made an appearance, and we were talking about the possibility of of Freddie Gibbs having, actually having the rap album of the year.

At which point, Chris Cody, who is too young for this and doesn't know like athletes from the 90s, Chris Cody

says, is that one of, is that Barry Gibbs?

Is he

and so then the D, the BJ, BGs start playing.

Stugats.

Well said.

A little bit of a struggle.

A little bit rusty here.

This is the Don Levatar Show Show with the Stukats.

Chris Cody, what do we have here for the final Sue performance of the day?

We have a new category, I'd say.

It's a musical performance category.

And I would say the last half dozen years, best musical has just been dominated by the Yetis, the Streeters, the Jeremys doing these high-produced, well-produced songs.

And I want to show some love to the other people, the people that call in the Boost Mobile songs, the Ray Flafriends, the Doliaks, the

Taylor singing terribly.

The bad songs.

So

we're having a new category this year.

It's called Worst of the Best Musical Performances.

And now the SUI nominees for Worst of the Best Musical Performance.

The best of different listeners singing about Rafe LaFrence and Michael Doliak.

Don't try to take

Rafe Le Fren

to the home,

cause you will not score.

You know who that is, that is Racel friends.

Who the F are you?

Jeremy Tache's unfinished Tony Reali song.

Tony's not you to do us.

It's great

when positivity rates.

Things are fresh in their life.

Tony Reali's full of life.

Now he comes to you, might have a guest or two.

Tony Realis

I.

Fresh forever with Tony Freshness.

Fresh forever with Tony Fresh and full life.

Listener from Boldest Take singing about Alexander Madison.

Alexander Madison.

My name is Alexander Madison.

David Sampson, all I need.

All I need is just a little more time to be sure how I feel.

Is it just in my mind?

More listeners singing about Rafe Rafe LaFrence and Michael Doliak.

He's in the paint,

in the paint,

Doliac, Doliac, Doliac.

I would do anything for love,

but I won't Doliak.

Oh no, said I won't Doliak.

Listener serenades Sergei Bobrovsky.

Ba ba ba ba ba

Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-bobrovsky.

Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-brovski.

Stop that shot.

Listener sings about Tua Tungavaloa.

And I'm here

to remind you of the check-down pass that you threw to me.

He's got gray hair.

He's left-handed with the eye-black cross that you wear for me.

Tua, to it to it

Taylor Vipolis Belichick is coming to town.

He sees you when you're practicing.

He knows your favorite place.

Your script won't work on the first try because he's got it all on tape.

Oh, you better watch out.

He's getting his guys.

You better find out that false PSI.

Belichick is coming to town

even more listeners singing about Rafe La France and Michael Doliak Rafe La France played several places started out at Kansas ended up with the Blazers he was just okay but they let everyone in so Hall of Famer one day

He blocked shots back in people's faces and he knocked down threes on a regular basis when Rape La France

played in all those places.

Doliac,

he's six feet from the rim.

And I'm thinking,

maybe six feet is close enough.

Taylor Vipolis, fire Mac Brown.

Well, I'd fire Mac Brown.

Yeah, I'd fire Mac Brown.

Watching this team is my personal hell.

Yeah, I'd fire Mac Brown.

I'm not sure that deserved to be a category.

Oh, man.

All the boost mobile calls.

Gotta do something with those.

No, we don't.

We could have just never thought of them.

We could have just never thought of them again.

one of the options was upholding a standard

i thought that was on the table

of the best guys

uh billy came in here and harumped something today that made me feel like he soon uh is is going to be an abuelo uh he came in here and he said 50 home runs used to mean something oh that is true

I mean, it wasn't a talk.

It was just, sometimes it's just a comment.

It wasn't for talking on on air about.

It's just 50 home runs.

Did it not used to mean something?

50 home runs.

It did.

Cal Raleigh has 50 home runs.

Happened two days ago.

Big dumper.

No one here was talking about it.

Used to mean something.

So did baseball.

I used to sit down and be like, oh, 50 home runs.

You know what they're doing right now, this Seattle San Diego.

You know what that is, right?

You know what it is?

It's the Vetter Cup.

Super Eddie Veteran Pearl Jam.

They're playing the Vetter Cup.

That's right.

And Cal Raleigh, he won the Better Man MVP Award the other day.

This is Pearl Jam dorking out.

He's doing.

People are so tired of that.

It's the only part of Zazzler they don't play.

I'll take things that were relevant in 1995.

Well, Mariners and Padres are doing it.

Vetter Cup.

To Billy's point, Amin said earlier in the show that Cal Raleigh is on pace to break Judge's AL home run record.

And we're just like, do you think they're going to break into programming for that?

Because I have my doubts.

They're not going to do it.

They did it for a Yankee, but they're not doing it for a big dumper.

No, I don't think so.

And poor Maris's kid is probably like, I'll be there.

Like, Roger Jr., not your time anymore, buddy.

So, 61 doesn't mean anything anymore?

It didn't mean anything since 1998.

Then we tried to pretend to make it a thing.

Like, this is the AL Homer record.

It's like, no one gives an AL about that.

ESPN.

Of course.

Hell.

ESPN.

Straight up.

If you eat into Memphis, Cincinnati, for a cow raleigh ad bat.

I'm going to kill you.

No.

ESPN.

I'm going to kill you.

I'm gonna kill you.

A riot would have sufficed.

I'm gonna kill you.

I don't even want to kill you.

I'm gonna kill you, ESPN.

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The summer's almost ending, man.

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There's no way.

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I am excited about cooler temperatures, but down here in South Florida, that just means slightly less boiling.

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It's been a pretty incredible summer.

We've had a parade down here.

We've grown our family down here at Metal Arc Media.

A lot of exciting things, a lot of memorable benchmarks.

And along the way, at almost every step, I've been tailed by that beautiful white can of Miller Light.

Oh, that beautiful white can.

Or the brown bottle.

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There has been so many great special times.

And each time, I've decided to make those special times a Miller time.

Whether it's a long weekend like one we got coming up or a full-on vacation, it is a perfect time to get the crew back together.

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