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Speaker 2 I really do feel like you guys have put me in an impossible position here where I have to do this five-minute interview agreeing to terms I didn't want.

Speaker 2 Somebody on a cell phone.

Speaker 2 You guys don't understand how hard it is to like even call the corridors of power.

Speaker 2 Like we have to go through a labyrinth just to make sure we could get Mickey Arrison on the line to celebrate his Hall of Fame induction this weekend. He's going to be pulled all over the place.

Speaker 2 He's doing two other interviews, five minutes, and forced. We have five minutes available to us.

Speaker 2 And over the last, I don't know, a few hours, you guys have forced me to do an interview that doesn't seem like it could go well.

Speaker 2 Five minutes is a set of terms that we've never agreed to. No video.

Speaker 18 We're a video company now.

Speaker 2 That's what we've been doing the last four years. No video? That's not something that we do anymore.
We are doing these things as a concession to a man. Yes, Chris.

Speaker 19 We're going to call him live on the air. Do you think he's a hello or this is Mickey when he answers kind of guy?

Speaker 20 Because

Speaker 19 I think of people like when they're, you're a Mickey Arrison type, you say, hey, this is Mickey.

Speaker 14 I think he's one of those types of goes, yellow.

Speaker 6 I think he's going, I think it's, yeah.

Speaker 5 Oh,

Speaker 17 power move.

Speaker 2 All right, so we're going to call him live on the air. Are you guys ready?

Speaker 2 Because Because I have to set up the five minutes, and I have to set it up with him because this is the five minutes don't start until we've asked our first question.

Speaker 14 Okay, so he's going to sit down.

Speaker 21 At the start of the question or the end of the question, because we have

Speaker 20 like family feuds, yeah.

Speaker 17 The clock starts as you start.

Speaker 2 I want to start, let's start there with him, Billy, because I think it's laughable that he's only giving us five minutes, and I don't mind giving him a hard time.

Speaker 16 He's probably going to have a clock also, so it's going to be like three, two, sink.

Speaker 19 I bet he likes family feuds.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you should sync it at the beginning for sure.

Speaker 24 Find out what time zone is in.

Speaker 2 We're going to have that whole conversation with him on the front end before we start the clock.

Speaker 21 But also, like, this could be like a genie situation where you have three wishes, right? And I wish I had more than three wishes. Like, boom, that was one of your wishes.

Speaker 21 So if it's at the end of the first question, you ask him, hey, does the clock start at the end of the first question? Then that might have been the first question.

Speaker 3 The clock could have started.

Speaker 2 But we have to be quick, too, is what I'm saying. Because it's five minutes.

Speaker 12 I'm quick. Ask my wife.

Speaker 12 You should start with that.

Speaker 2 How would you do that?

Speaker 26 Usually on top.

Speaker 21 Ooh, what if that's the first question? A little iceberg. Mickey, how's the performance? Yeah.

Speaker 17 Power bottom.

Speaker 21 Man in the street, freaking the sheets, that type of thing.

Speaker 2 Tony, you're of the belief that I should ask him off the top in an interview that has five minutes before we get to the ownership by the Saudis, 10% of the company.

Speaker 2 You're of the belief that.

Speaker 17 Don't start with that one.

Speaker 2 But you're of the belief that, no, better to start. How are you in the sheets? Or how quick are you?

Speaker 16 You think that's better?

Speaker 17 That's crass.

Speaker 20 Oh, dude, the Joe Rose.

Speaker 4 How the lady's treating you.

Speaker 27 Hmm.

Speaker 25 Is he talking to Big Dog? Is that one of the three interviews? Let's do this. I'm excited now.

Speaker 12 All right, go ahead and call him.

Speaker 2 But the

Speaker 2 five, the five minutes do not start. I've got to talk to him about this.

Speaker 18 I'm definitely not confused.

Speaker 2 All right, hold on. Just call.

Speaker 14 Very exciting.

Speaker 23 What was the first question I already forgot?

Speaker 23 Hello?

Speaker 2 Mickey?

Speaker 28 Hello?

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 2 Hello, Mickey.

Speaker 2 The clock does not start on five minutes. We are on the air.
We've got five minutes with you. Congratulations.
You're the greatest owner in the history of South Florida Sports.

Speaker 20 We're very happy for you.

Speaker 20 Who's this?

Speaker 30 Hi, Dan.

Speaker 13 That's good.

Speaker 2 What a joke story.

Speaker 20 No, we got it.

Speaker 3 I get it. No, you.

Speaker 3 I forgot all my questions.

Speaker 2 Okay, I've been told I have five minutes with him, but I'm just telling you right now, all right, Mickey, that the clock does not start until we, until after we've asked our first question, okay?

Speaker 29 You're coming to ask the question yet?

Speaker 2 No, I have not yet asked the question. We have five minutes with you.
I don't think that you want to do any of this, not this interview.

Speaker 17 I'm not sure you want to do that. What are you so busy doing, Mickey?

Speaker 12 Mickey, what are you up to today? What does your day look like?

Speaker 14 That's the first question.

Speaker 18 No, it is not. No, it is not.

Speaker 2 The clock does not start until I ask the first question. Billy's not getting in here and asking the first question.

Speaker 18 The clock does not start.

Speaker 29 I started out with a cappuccino at Starbucks

Speaker 29 with a banana bread. It was pretty good, but it went right through me.

Speaker 17 You ever heard of the.

Speaker 21 Ooh, okay, too much information.

Speaker 17 You ever heard of Starbucks in your house?

Speaker 29 Where I am, I have a Starbucks. It's called the Mohegan Sun.

Speaker 2 Oh, you own the Mohegan Sun?

Speaker 26 No, the Mohegan Sun.

Speaker 21 This clock

Speaker 17 has already started.

Speaker 3 No, the clock.

Speaker 13 No, the clock is.

Speaker 17 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 No, no, don't start the clock. It's already gone.

Speaker 16 You already asked two questions.

Speaker 21 You ever had one of those plain stick donuts, Mickey?

Speaker 18 Don't start the clock.

Speaker 2 Don't start the clock yet.

Speaker 17 I haven't tried to.

Speaker 21 Don't bother. Don't waste your life on that.

Speaker 2 Okay, what happened? You said your breakfast went right through you.

Speaker 29 Yeah, that cappuccino was just a little strong with the jet lag coming from Italy, you know.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 2 This is not the first question. We've got five minutes and a second.
No, it starts with the first question.

Speaker 29 How many first questions if you can?

Speaker 2 Okay, no, we're going to start the clock in a second. Mickey, thank you for joining us.
Zazzlo, you're in agreement with me.

Speaker 2 Greatest owner in South Florida sports history, bar none.

Speaker 6 Has brought me a lot of joy. Greatest owner, yes.

Speaker 21 That question was to Zazzlo, not you, Mickey.

Speaker 17 That's right.

Speaker 2 It was to DeZaslow, not to Mickey. He is willing.
He is starting his Hall of Fame week right now. It's very busy.
He's only got five minutes. I'm going to ask the first question.

Speaker 2 The first question is, true or false, you are looking forward to making your Hall of Fame speech.

Speaker 2 False. True or false, Mickey, LeBron is the best player in franchise history.
Oh,

Speaker 29 tough question. I got to give that to Dwayne Wayne.

Speaker 2 That's a good answer. Yeah, but it's false.
That makes it.

Speaker 21 So why'd you make him such a shitty statue?

Speaker 12 I mean, that thing looks nothing like him.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Billy.

Speaker 20 He didn't sculpt, dude. It wasn't his fault.

Speaker 2 Billy, that's not a question.

Speaker 18 What is that?

Speaker 32 You said you wanted me to ask him that, Dan. You said, Billy, make sure you come in and club him with a headache.

Speaker 3 You pulled him aside.

Speaker 17 That's not true. You pulled him aside.

Speaker 26 You were like, Mike, ask him if he knows Zaslow. And then, Billy, ask him about the weekend.

Speaker 2 All right. Mickey, are you excited about this weekend because you deserve it?

Speaker 29 I'm excited? No, I'm

Speaker 29 excited is not the word.

Speaker 2 What is it?

Speaker 29 I'm appreciative.

Speaker 16 Why would excited?

Speaker 29 It is an honor, and so I'm appreciative, but it's not, you know, it's not what I love doing. Getting up and giving speeches.
I don't think I've given one in 25 years.

Speaker 2 Did you get any help with it?

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 are you dreading this? Because

Speaker 2 it should feel, forgive me for doing this, but it should feel like a celebration of great accomplishment. It's the height of the sport.

Speaker 29 Well, like I said, I'm appreciative. I appreciate the honor from the hall, no question about it.
But it's not something, it was never a goal.

Speaker 29 And so while I appreciate it, you know, the goal, we've reached our goal three times. And

Speaker 29 so I rather look forward to the fourth more than this. But like I said, I'm very appreciative.

Speaker 2 What are you proudest of? What are you proudest of in your career?

Speaker 29 Building the largest and greatest cruise company in the world.

Speaker 2 Basketball-wise?

Speaker 29 Being competitive most years,

Speaker 29 winning more games than most franchises.

Speaker 29 Coming from an expansion team, one of the youngest franchises, I think we set a pretty good record of achievement, which I'll talk about in my two minutes.

Speaker 3 Dos Minutos!

Speaker 2 The unfairest criticism of the Miami Heat in recent years.

Speaker 29 There's been so much of it, I have no idea which is the most unfair.

Speaker 16 Is there a way for that?

Speaker 29 I have the unfortunate ability of reading social media, which is a horrible thing. but having read, you know,

Speaker 29 seen a lot of the

Speaker 29 Twitter reaction to

Speaker 29 what we've not achieved in the last year or so is no fun.

Speaker 6 Mickey, is that the unfair criticism that has bothered you the most?

Speaker 29 I don't know that it's unfair.

Speaker 29 I didn't say it was unfair. I just said that, you know, it's not fun to read.

Speaker 12 Did you guys really lose LeBron James because Pat Rai stole his cookies on an airplane?

Speaker 29 I think you have to ask LeBron James why LeBron James left, but I think in retrospect, he made a, for his personal career, he made a great decision.

Speaker 2 True or false, the last year in Miami, LeBron James quit during the finals.

Speaker 29 I don't believe a player like LeBron James ever quits. Come on.

Speaker 32 Do you know who Jonathan Zaslow is?

Speaker 29 No.

Speaker 29 Oh.

Speaker 3 See, that's not right.

Speaker 3 Devastating. That's bullshit.
It's a great question. I'm saying that's a you have to.

Speaker 11 You're calling Mr.

Speaker 21 Harrison a liar?

Speaker 2 I'm saying Mike Ryan. Mike Ryan's bullshit.

Speaker 3 He's bullshit.

Speaker 2 Ask Mickey Harrison your question. Ask him.

Speaker 6 Mickey, have you seen the new Superman?

Speaker 29 No.

Speaker 2 Mickey,

Speaker 2 congratulations this weekend. Five seconds left.
Was that as uncomfortable as you feared it would be?

Speaker 29 No, it wasn't uncomfortable. You know, I always look forward to talking to you, Dan.

Speaker 30 I don't know why you never invite me.

Speaker 12 Yeah, why aren't you inviting him, Dan?

Speaker 2 I've been inviting him for 30 years.

Speaker 21 Talk to you tomorrow, Mickey?

Speaker 2 He does talk to you tomorrow and serve up more softballs.

Speaker 20 Come on. Weekly spot.

Speaker 29 Anytime, Dan, you know that.

Speaker 2 All right, a weekly guest. Mickey, good talking to you.
Mike, you didn't get any Terry Rozier questions in.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 No, I'm the soft one here.

Speaker 2 Matthew Berry, next. Thank you, Mickey.

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Zaslow likes that opulence.

Speaker 2 So, too, does Matthew Berry, who has a backdrop here that is exactly the backdrop that Matthew Berry also always wants to have as the fantasy king

Speaker 2 that he is. Like, look at him.
Like, he's doing this.

Speaker 37 That's insane.

Speaker 2 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 Big football. Big football is all behind him.
And look at him. He's preening.

Speaker 2 That is an album cover right there for fantasy league players everywhere. Look how large he looks there.

Speaker 38 Yeah, it's weird. So I'm at the link, obviously, Football Night in America tonight.
We're kicking off. We actually have football tonight.
Cowboys and Eagles. So I'm here in Philadelphia.

Speaker 38 It actually looks semi-fake. It looks like AI, Dan, but

Speaker 38 I am here. I'm on my iPad talking to you guys.
So, yeah, it's unsettlingly large.

Speaker 2 Well, you look epic. You're a king in the industry.
And everyone knows this time of year,

Speaker 2 the fantasy. I open the floor to you guys.
You guys know I don't like fantasy. You guys know that that's not a thing for me.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 20 I don't follow all this stuff.

Speaker 2 I don't care about whether you follow.

Speaker 20 You don't follow football.

Speaker 2 No, I just don't want to predict.

Speaker 38 Dan, let me ask you a question, though. Can I ask you a question? Because I know you've had this take for a long time.
You've been very consistent about this. But have we ever gotten into why?

Speaker 38 And somebody just said this. Why don't you like fantasy? I know you don't, and I'm not trying to convince you to do it, but I'm just curious, what about it don't you like?

Speaker 2 The thing that I don't like is that if I am betting on someone to get 80 plus yards in a game game rushing, and that person ends up getting hurt, I don't like losing my money.

Speaker 2 I don't like investing in things that are so predictive that no one knows anything about what's going to happen. You guys are very good at the information.

Speaker 2 You guys are better than most at being able to correctly predict what's going to be a success on the field.

Speaker 2 But the thing that I don't like about it is it's so much guesswork that with my money, and I can lose so much of it quickly because I'd prefer just one game and I'd like, I'd like that to be where the action is.

Speaker 2 I don't need to have action in 150 different places hoping that Kyle Pitts has over three and a half catches.

Speaker 17 This guy doesn't love ball. He doesn't.

Speaker 17 I should have known early when he didn't like my list.

Speaker 2 How long was he crying? That felt like 35 seconds.

Speaker 38 Yeah, I would say the audio went out there, so I didn't hear the whole thing, but I get the general gist of it. I would just say that in terms of fantasy, you don't have to play for money.

Speaker 38 You can just play with your friends.

Speaker 38 And it's not really about Kyle Pitts over three and a half receptions. You are rooting for players and their performance, but it's not that's more of a betting thing, I would say.

Speaker 38 But it is, it does give you a rooting interest in games that you might not normally care about, and it is a way to you know bond, whether it is people you work with, people you went to college with, uh, friends and family, it's a way to stay in touch as well.

Speaker 38 So, um, but I understand that, like, I respect it, I've heard versions of that before, and uh, I consider it an amazing accomplishment in my career.

Speaker 38 I consider it an amazing accomplishment in my career that despite the fact that Dan hates fantasy, I've somehow managed to be a multi-time guest on the Dan Lebatard show.

Speaker 19 Dan, you're actually going to be in a fantasy league with Matthew Berry. You don't know, but you're signed up.
We're doing the draft next week.

Speaker 19 We're going to start it a little late, but a guillotine league, and you're in it.

Speaker 2 I don't even know what that means, a guillotine league.

Speaker 25 Oh, it's the good stuff.

Speaker 20 You actually might like it better because if you lose the first week, you're gone.

Speaker 25 You don't have to deal with it anymore.

Speaker 13 But it's for winning.

Speaker 2 I erred in saying Kyle Pitts over three and and a half yards because when it is that you go to yardages and you have to do the guesswork, what you're saying is that this allows you to care about games that you wouldn't normally care about.

Speaker 2 And I would say it's part of the dehumanization of the athlete because he's only worth whatever his 60 yards in resistance.

Speaker 20 I hate to say one police.

Speaker 21 Kyle Pitts is out on that field whether I draft him on my fantasy team or not.

Speaker 14 Dehumanization.

Speaker 17 Jeez, Louise.

Speaker 25 Are you kidding me, dog? I want him to succeed.

Speaker 17 I want him to have 100 yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 21 They already elected a Pope, Dan. It's fine.

Speaker 26 I'm pretty sure you don't know what fantasy football is.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 13 Matthew Berry has a

Speaker 38 legitimate league, that he would actually enjoy it.

Speaker 38 If you opened your mind and gave it a shot, I actually think you would enjoy it.

Speaker 38 Because, right, I understand the dehumanization aspect, but that's true with football, right? There are fans that have nothing to do with fantasy that yell at guys because they dropped a pass, because

Speaker 38 they didn't complete something.

Speaker 38 So, I mean, like, it's, that's just a fandom thing that's not a that's not a fantasy thing that's just how certain people view the game but uh i don't view the game that way and i don't think anyone on your staff does dehumanization man i legitimately love shane vereen yeah i will love shane vereen forever danny woodhead is a god he is such a human to me he's more than a human that like but jokes aside i jokes that the one that's one of the great things and why fantasy football is so good for the nfl is because you joke about shane vereen or danny woodhead two legends in the fantasy game, but it does give attention to players that might normally not get it.

Speaker 38 The Jaguars were not good last year. Brian Thomas Jr.
was not a highly drafted guy.

Speaker 38 You know, Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors, those were the wide receivers that everyone cared about coming out of college last year. But Brian Thomas Jr.
became a superstar in fantasy football.

Speaker 38 And he's obviously known in NFL circles, but not nearly as well. as he was in fantasy football circles.
Small market guy who performed very well on a bad team, Brian Thomas Jr. last year.

Speaker 38 And so it does give attention to players that might normally not get it.

Speaker 6 Matthew, you played fantasy football obviously for many, many years. What is the most angry you've ever been over fantasy football?

Speaker 38 There's, you can search it up. You can, Alfred Morris, one point.

Speaker 38 I was in a league and

Speaker 38 I just

Speaker 38 lost it. And it was a Monday night football game.
And I needed one point. Literally, one, the guy I was playing was done.

Speaker 38 I needed Alfred Morris, who at the time was the starting running back for the San Francisco 49ers. It was a Monday night game against the Packers.
I just needed literally one point from Alfred Morris.

Speaker 38 You got points for first downs. So I win the game, but then there's a penalty.
It comes back and he never touches the ball again. He literally got only one play.
He earns a first down.

Speaker 38 He got like an eight-yard carry for a first down. They call it back due to penalty.
And I lose by like 0.7 when all I needed was one point. And I just did it.
I just lost

Speaker 38 it on

Speaker 38 my podcast that I was doing. And so I just did an epic rant.
And you can search it up on YouTube. Matthew Berry, Alfred Morris, one point.
And I just go off for like five minutes.

Speaker 38 That is the angriest I've ever been. It's just, it was just the most frustrating loss of all time watching that entire game and Alfred Morris can't get any one stupid point.

Speaker 2 Chris Cody, would you like to get that audio and video so that I can tell you why it is that I don't like fantasy as we see our friend Matthew Berry melt down in an assortment of hysterics over a single football yard when he's an alleged adult human being?

Speaker 2 I would like to play that sound for the people and what it does to people I also don't like because the people want to tell me about their fantasy league and that terrible loss they suffered.

Speaker 25 Yeah, but that's the part of the community, Dan.

Speaker 17 You don't like community.

Speaker 25 I've realized

Speaker 32 you don't like community.

Speaker 37 You don't like ball.

Speaker 17 Like I love war stories, more of them.

Speaker 38 But Dan, people are like that.

Speaker 38 People are like that about Alabama losing to Florida State.

Speaker 38 Like when you care about a team, whether it's your fake football team or your real football team, when you lose a frustrating game, you're upset.

Speaker 38 That's why we love about, that's what we love about sports. There's a passion.
There's a there's a there's a love there.

Speaker 38 And so, yes, you know, when the people you love let you down, you get disappointed. And whether it's, you know, a fake team that you've assembled or a team that you've grown up watching, you know.

Speaker 38 So I don't know that any of the emotions you're arguing against are different in fantasy than they are in normal, actual football. That would be my argument back to you.

Speaker 6 Matthew,

Speaker 6 you must get fantasy football questions wherever you go, which is probably really annoying when you're just trying to like enjoy your day.

Speaker 6 But when you did Avengers, were any of the Avengers asking you fantasy football advice?

Speaker 38 They were.

Speaker 38 They were, and they do to this day.

Speaker 38 And honestly, the reason I was in that movie, I was in Avengers Endgame, is because I was in a fantasy league with Joe Russo, who, you know, obviously directed the movie with his brother Anthony, the Russo brothers.

Speaker 38 And we became friends and he said he had a part for me. And I was just like, great.
And so they're actually, there's a lot of them that are hardcore fantasy football.

Speaker 38 players. And so for a number of years, I played in the league with

Speaker 38 Chris Pratt and Chris Evans, all the Chrises, actually. Hemsworth, Robert Downey Jr., Paul Rudd's a crazy fantasy football player.

Speaker 13 All of them.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I need a couple of them. I need you to keep hitting that.
He just hit us with like five look-at-me Louis, did he not?

Speaker 25 Hemsworth had the worst team, right? That got us in no football.

Speaker 38 Hemsworth was actually, no, Hemsworth actually had a good team. I think he probably had somebody helping him out.

Speaker 13 I'll see Robert Louis.

Speaker 38 No, I'm not allowed. Are you allowed to do a look-at-me Louie when I'm asked a direct question? When I'm answering a direct question, I need to know the rules on this.

Speaker 2 No, but they said, no, but wait a minute. He asked you about being in the Avengers, and then you volunteered all of those names that you're in a league with and that you're still friends with them.

Speaker 38 No, no, no, no. Dan, he asked me, do any of those guys ask me for, did any of the Avengers ask me for fantasy advice? And so the answer is, is yes, they did, I suppose.

Speaker 38 But I would think your audience would want to know, okay, well, which of the Avengers asked you for fantasy advice?

Speaker 38 And I'm telling you that not only they asked me for fantasy advice, but they're hardcore.

Speaker 38 players um that are league fair enough if i mention that i i think i'm i'm just i get one look at me louis Louis. I don't think five.

Speaker 2 He's the founder.

Speaker 38 I'm not the only one that I was in a league with him. That's fair.
He's fair. I'll allow that one.

Speaker 13 He's the founder.

Speaker 17 You're not entitled to allow or not allow around here.

Speaker 2 Sure, you've already gotten it and you'll eat it. You can object to it, but you'll still eat it.
Founder of fantasylife.com, host of the fantasy football happy hour with Matthew Berry.

Speaker 2 It's on NBC Sports and Peacock. On his pod, the description is Matthew Berry is on the Mount Rushmore of fantasy football analysts.
Who's up there with you?

Speaker 38 That's a great question, actually. And I haven't, I didn't come up with that phrase.
I didn't say that.

Speaker 38 I don't know who else is up there with me um i'd have to actually i'd actually have to think about that um a lot of people that do great i feel like i'm just going to offend people if i don't mention uh if i don't mention

Speaker 2 you're in the entertainment business sir you can't wiggle around that question with a bunch of cowardice you got to throw a couple of people on there at the risk of offending others eric carabelle is waiting with bated breath

Speaker 38 Yeah, listen, Eric Carabelle is a legend, right, Eric? Eric's been doing it forever and ever. He was at ESPN before I ever got there as well.

Speaker 38 I'll say my friend friend Joe Bryant, over at Football Guys, has been doing it forever and does a great job, still does a great job. So I'll say

Speaker 38 I'll put him up there as well.

Speaker 25 Evan Silva would also like a word.

Speaker 18 I think he didn't allow Carabelle up to it.

Speaker 38 No, listen,

Speaker 38 Evan's great. I mean, that's the thing.
Like, you could mention a bunch of people. I'd be like, yeah,

Speaker 38 Evan's great. Like all the people I work with at ESPN.
Matthew.

Speaker 20 He feels great.

Speaker 38 Matthew feels great.

Speaker 2 Matthew, did you just give us coach speak on Eric Carabelle? Is that what just happened on our show where you just said, well, Eric Carabelle, yeah, you know, he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 A lot of respect for him.

Speaker 17 He's a lot of respect for him, but no, he's clearly not on the Melt Rushmore.

Speaker 2 But I would never say that. I would never say that out loud because I'm just giving you a bunch of blue mist in your face.

Speaker 38 Well,

Speaker 38 now you're going to pay me the corner because I like Eric. I have no issue with Eric.

Speaker 3 He's not on the Mel Rushmore.

Speaker 28 He's out. He's out.
He's out.

Speaker 17 He's out.

Speaker 3 Get him out of here.

Speaker 38 He's much more of a baseball guy, and he would tell you that himself if he were on the Mel Rushman.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God.

Speaker 17 We didn't say fantasy football, Mount Rushmore. We said fantasy football.

Speaker 20 Some would say without fantasy baseball, there'd be no fantasy football.

Speaker 4 Precisely.

Speaker 12 Respect your elders.

Speaker 38 Meanwhile, they're cutting the grass behind me. Well, oh, here's a Mount Rushmore guy.
That if it's fantasy and it's not just football specific, Ron Chandler

Speaker 38 of baseball HQ fame. Ron Chandler is an absolute legend.

Speaker 38 He's on the Mount Rushmore of fantasy sports for sure.

Speaker 20 Didn't he invent rotisserie?

Speaker 38 He did not invent rotisserie. He did.

Speaker 31 He was the first person that takes

Speaker 13 Rogers.

Speaker 38 Ron Chandler was the first person that used analytics and data, underlying statistics, to predict future performance under the lens of fantasy sports.

Speaker 38 He's the first guy to do that.

Speaker 2 I need to stop you for just a second because I've been negligent this segment. He's the founder of FantasyLife.com.
He's the host of Fantasy Football.

Speaker 20 Happy Hour with Matthew Berry.

Speaker 2 It's on NBC Sports and Peacock. He's a giant.

Speaker 19 Trying to sell fantasy to you. What's next?

Speaker 17 French fries? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 Pizza.

Speaker 37 It's awesome.

Speaker 20 I don't know about pizza.

Speaker 2 Okay, I know you guys.

Speaker 25 He's got the link. Look at him.
This is a great day.

Speaker 2 Okay, yes, it is. My bad.
Let's get in these last two minutes that we have with Matthew Berry. Just condense it for it because I know everyone out there is searching all pods for all information.

Speaker 2 Give us your best two minutes of Matthew Berry is telling you this weekend, here's where the money is in fantasy.

Speaker 19 No, I love it.

Speaker 38 Hang on one second. I got the

Speaker 13 no, I know.

Speaker 2 Everyone's getting ready for a big night. Well, everybody's waiting for these two minutes, Matthew.
I've wasted everyone's time because everyone wants the gold of these two minutes.

Speaker 2 I will get out of the way. And for two minutes, you give everyone, please, your best information this weekend.

Speaker 38 For this weekend, I think Xavier Worthy, who's had at least five receptions for each of his last eight full games against a Chargers defense. It was one of the worst teams against the deep pass.

Speaker 38 No Rashi Rice, no Jalen Royals. I think Xavier Worthy has a big game.
No team in the NFL gave up more rushing touchdowns last year than the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 38 Give me James Conner, who last year got 76%

Speaker 38 of his team's goal-to-go rushing attempts. I think Drake May has a great game this week, his debut against the Raiders.

Speaker 38 According to Pro Football Focus, our friends over at PFF, no secondary is worse heading into week one than the Las Vegas Raiders. I think they let him run quite a bit as well.

Speaker 38 I think Jacksonville and Carolina is going to be a sneaky shootout.

Speaker 38 Give me all the Trevor Lawrence, all the Travis Hunter this week

Speaker 38 as well. I'm excited for tonight's game

Speaker 38 with the the Eagles and the Cowboys. I think they pass more this year, the Eagles do.
So give me Samay Brown and Devontae Smith. How about Jerome Ford?

Speaker 38 I think Jerome Ford, with Quinn Sean Jutkins, still unsigned for the Browns. I think Jerome Ford is going to be

Speaker 3 Jerome Ford is there.

Speaker 13 That guy is what?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 27 Jerome Ford is what?

Speaker 3 He's still taunting Matthew.

Speaker 28 Jerome is what?

Speaker 3 Everybody wants this.

Speaker 28 This is Jerome Ford is what? What?

Speaker 31 It's being lost.

Speaker 28 Jerome

Speaker 28 Because his audio blows.

Speaker 3 The link. Jerome Ford.

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Speaker 12 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 11 I ain't never met nobody in the world that's done hate on blues.

Speaker 20 Great nomination.

Speaker 35 Like, who don't like Blues Clues, bro?

Speaker 20 If you don't like Blues Clues, you're a loser.

Speaker 37 Stugats.

Speaker 11 Look, you get one paw paw print that's the first clue you put it in a notebook now what do you do

Speaker 15 blues clues blues clues sit on the chair and think about it this is the dun lebatar show with the stugats

Speaker 2 we have again segregated jeremy tashet in baseball put it apart from the show it's in the post-game show if you want your baseball if you want your pitch clock on a football Thursday that I've befouled by talking to Matthew Berry in a way that everyone here thought was improperly disrespectful because I wasn't properly loving of all the things that Matthew Berry is.

Speaker 2 Look at Tony still shaking his head.

Speaker 32 It's just he's a legend of the game, Dan. And then you don't like fantasy football.

Speaker 25 You don't get it.

Speaker 7 It's like we're trying to pitch it to you. Like if it's the first time ever, it's in 1984.

Speaker 16 You're essentially saying what he does is bullshit.

Speaker 26 Yeah, that's what you're doing. Look, I did the Brad Marshawn thing for two months.
I knew it was a bad bit. I admitted I was wrong.

Speaker 17 You've been doing this bad bit for 15 years.

Speaker 2 I may have to admit at some point that my ignorance about this thing makes me hate it because all of you asking me about Greg Cody's football lobos has poisoned me over the years and made me hate fantasy football.

Speaker 26 You'd think that after the show was presented by DraftKings, he'd get that.

Speaker 2 I am who I am. I will always be who I am.
Is that Popeye? Juju. Yes, thank you.
That is Popeye.

Speaker 2 I am what I am. That's Popeye's phrase.
I'm just taking it. I didn't know that Popeye hated fantasy football.
Juju is here. He is going to critique the show in other ways.

Speaker 2 In what other ways did I fail today, Juju?

Speaker 35 Man, I'd like to welcome you to the Mob Land Hive, Big Brother, because like I say, man, that's just an incredibly produced show.

Speaker 35 I can't wait for season two, but you enraged the crowd when saying it it was better than the Sopranos. That was what could be better.
Yeah, you had a lot of reactions.

Speaker 16 Oh, no, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 Just so that everyone knows, like, I love the Sopranos. It's one of the greatest television shows of all time.
I just got five Guy Richie movies.

Speaker 2 If you give me seven seasons of five Guy Richie movies, it'll be better than the Sopranos.

Speaker 35 Well, Cafasito Crew Gaming says you are a prisoner of the moment. And Jeremiah W says you have gone too far.
Nope.

Speaker 2 Look, you guys aren't properly respecting what Guy Ritchie does. The actors in Mobland are so much better than the ones in the Sopranos.
So much better.

Speaker 18 Not a little bit better.

Speaker 3 A lot better.

Speaker 2 And the music. Just, Mike, please look up for me.

Speaker 26 Even better than the great Stevie Van Zandt?

Speaker 2 Mike, please look up for me, if you will, the music at the beginning. It's the only intro I do not skip.

Speaker 2 I skip all the intros except the music to Mobland because I don't know who even does it because the song at the beginning of Mobland is so. You skip the succession intro?

Speaker 2 yes well that's the only other one

Speaker 35 that's the only other one I occasionally did not miss you did get me Zaz the great poly walnuts rest in peace by the way what other criticisms they got of me uh they don't have too many too much more criticisms they were uh a little bit restless on the football talk because we started with a lot of other stuff besides football today we got into Mickey Harrison pretty early we got into David Sampson which is a crowd favorite and they was like get to the football so whenever whenever Tony did his list, man, the chat lit up and y'all really lit them boys up today.

Speaker 35 Thank you.

Speaker 2 We'll do better tomorrow.

Speaker 20 I'm not so sure. It's a football fan.

Speaker 26 I'm not here to save you tomorrow, Dan.

Speaker 22 And Dan is threatened to be here.

Speaker 16 You got to talk for the rest of the season.

Speaker 2 Thursday Thunder is upon us. Let's do that quickly before we get to Gas Bag of the Week.

Speaker 12 Thursday Thunder presented by DraftKings.

Speaker 19 DraftKings, the crown is yours.

Speaker 35 Brothers, the NFL is back.

Speaker 35 Football memes going all across the world right now. DraftKing posted the football meme.

Speaker 35 My boy Kazim posted the football meme. You guys are on the map.
Kazim, you got to know.

Speaker 35 Salute to Cash, man. But football season is back and everybody's celebrating.
So I want to kick it off with going over 6.5 catches right now tonight for my boy CD Lamb, man.

Speaker 3 Come on, man.

Speaker 35 They're going to be down a little bit tonight and they're going to have to air that thing out. So

Speaker 35 CeeDe Lamb over 6.5. Second leg, I'm going with my boy Fergie.
I'm going with Mr. Cavender himself, Jake Ferguson, for over 3.5 catches as well.

Speaker 35 I feel like that's,

Speaker 35 and I don't want to jinx it, but that seems pretty Scooby-snackable to me, if you feel me. Last leg, you know, I can't forget about my ladies.
I can't forget about them.

Speaker 35 Even though it's Football Thursday, I'm going with the Minnesota Lynx. Minus two and a half points tonight against the Las Vegas Aces.

Speaker 35 The last time they played the Aces, they beat them by 50-something,

Speaker 20 50-umption points.

Speaker 35 So lock it in tonight. Thursday, Thunder, baby.

Speaker 2 As an apology to Matthew Berry and an audience that has turned against me and rightfully turned against me, what I'm going to do is I'm going to make a deal with MetalArc Media and Matthew Berry that he gives us his best three three minutes of fantasy football secrets every single week where he joins us.

Speaker 2 And it's just every single week, I'm going to give you what you want.

Speaker 20 Not what I want.

Speaker 2 I don't want to do three minutes of fantasy football, but where he gives you like the machine gun, here's what you need to do this weekend. You don't even need to listen to my whole podcast.

Speaker 2 These are the moves you need to make. We're going to do that deal as a season-long apology for what it is that I did on this first of football Thursdays.
My apologies to all involved.

Speaker 2 Let's do the polls here before we end the show on a gas bag of the week. What do you have? And this part of the show.
Pitch clock is in the post-game segregated.

Speaker 2 What do you have for us on the polls, Juju?

Speaker 35 Man, we got some important polls today. Does a donut need to be sweet? 85% of the audience says, yes, it does.

Speaker 35 Sorry, Zaz.

Speaker 6 Sorry, what? I was sweet as hell when I was touching my lips.

Speaker 35 Does a donut need to be round?

Speaker 35 56% of the audience says, no, it does not. Salute to Zaszlo.

Speaker 2 That's a bit of a shocker, is it not?

Speaker 40 Are you guys not shocked a little bit by that one? No, I thought

Speaker 37 donut had to be round and have a hole. No.

Speaker 35 Whose tears did you enjoy more? Alabama's or Bill Belichick's?

Speaker 2 Oh, that was from yesterday. That's a good one.

Speaker 35 Right.

Speaker 35 55% of the audience says they enjoy Alabama's tears more.

Speaker 35 Right.

Speaker 35 Also, happy retirement to Nicola Vucevich under the radar. Sneaky big man.
The Russian.

Speaker 35 Yeah, the Russian.

Speaker 35 The last poll. Who's the nuttiest fan of the week? The Alabama fan who gave us a barrel to remember?

Speaker 38 Or

Speaker 35 it's two.

Speaker 38 Dang, can I explain?

Speaker 19 I struggled yesterday as well.

Speaker 13 What is happening?

Speaker 3 The UM fans fancy inappropriate.

Speaker 2 Okay, so this is our new sponsored segment. Nuttiest fan, we can't do it correctly.

Speaker 21 Well, peace and peace is partner, let's say.

Speaker 35 yeah okay yeah okay well the back of the man's jersey says i come in peace and the back of his wife's jersey says peace

Speaker 2 which fan is the nuttiest of the week 64 of the audience says the peace couple and those are your polls uh thank you uh juju i appreciate the time would you like to hear who this week's gas bag of the week is because i've been asking these guys to get better at finding gas bags of the week.

Speaker 2 They have failed. They failed for months.

Speaker 2 They failed for years, really, getting me just, you would think with all the people talking at the content trough, it'd be pretty easy to find someone who's a gas bag of the week. So show me, guys.

Speaker 2 Show me something here on who was most wrong this week, most loudly about anything he had to say in the gas bag department.

Speaker 12 Gas bag of the week.

Speaker 2 This is a beast coming to college football. This is not a lazy old man that you underestimate because you're forgetful about what he did before the last five years you were watching.

Speaker 2 Do you know what it takes to win in that sport? Everyone is fighting for money, for careers with their bodies.

Speaker 2 This dude conquered everyone, had a murderer on the roster, went through cheating scandals, conquered that league again and again, like no one has, and now wants to prove it.

Speaker 2 in the minor leagues of professional football. I'd be terrified to compete against whatever he's got coming my way.

Speaker 26 I don't feel good about it as a Miami fan.

Speaker 16 Hey, hey, cut that one.

Speaker 27 Hey, cut that, cut that one. Bad Eddie.

Speaker 27 Bad Eddie.

Speaker 41 Important context.

Speaker 2 So Mike is clearly the gas bag of the week.

Speaker 16 How often are you going to shoehorn Aaron Hernandez into a conversation?

Speaker 17 Let him rest in peace, Dan.

Speaker 3 What? Wait.

Speaker 13 What?

Speaker 6 Embarrass yourself there, Mike. Great.

Speaker 20 What? Who's me?

Speaker 2 I have shoehorned a lot of Aaron Hernandez into the show today. Not exactly the way to celebrate the return of football, I don't think.
I think I failed today in that regard.

Speaker 2 Did we fail at the Mickey Harrison interview as well? Didn't quite ask him about the Saudis.

Speaker 26 I think we were soft, and we set ourselves up there. You're just a mouthpiece.

Speaker 5 Jeez.

Speaker 18 It's bad.

Speaker 26 It's bad. You were talking all sorts of noise about Mark Cuban, and then you were like, no, I'm going to ask him about this.

Speaker 37 And you were like, I'm definitely going to ask him about Kushner. That is my idea.
I'm going to ask him.

Speaker 17 And then you did it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Could have gone better. Zaslow, to you.
Like, I don't know that on a football Thursday. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I would say in general, my judgment was a little bit off today, that doing that with Mickey Harrison at all was a bad choice by me. I just,

Speaker 6 he's lying when he tells us that he hasn't seen Superman.

Speaker 14 Well, where was this tough guy earlier?

Speaker 19 His energy, though, was palpable.

Speaker 26 Yeah, he was definitely telling the truth when he said he didn't know who you were.

Speaker 2 See, that's another thing.

Speaker 41 I mean, you're telling me I haven't seen any kind of personality like this from Mickey Harrison.

Speaker 2 Now, all of a sudden, he becomes a trickster?

Speaker 14 Told us his cruise line is the number one cruise line in the world, too.

Speaker 17 Whoa!

Speaker 20 That's up for debate. That's up for you.

Speaker 3 Where were you, During?

Speaker 20 He was here. The chickens.
Excuse me? The chickens are back.

Speaker 2 Billy showed up.

Speaker 21 I was here for journalism, my friend.

Speaker 32 I'm with the Big J in the show today.

Speaker 20 He owns Royal.

Speaker 4 Big J.

Speaker 12 That statue is shit. Come on.

Speaker 20 It's not his fault, but come on.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 4 his building.

Speaker 12 Gaga is his fault.

Speaker 17 Buck stops with him.

Speaker 22 Yeah, what happened to Gaga? We forgot to ask about Gaga.

Speaker 22 It's only five minutes.

Speaker 11 He'll be on wake up. Oh, I took a big shit today.

Speaker 32 He's like, whoa, Mickey, come on, man. It's family show.

Speaker 21 What are you doing here?

Speaker 19 He'll be on next week.