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What does it all mean?

We'll break it down.

This is the hockey show.

Welcome to the hockey show.

Before we get started, I want to talk about one of our favorite Panther fans who,

in reports that we are seeing, we lost today.

Steve Ilario was a charter and sales broker with a yacht company called Northrop and Johnson.

He was also a Panthers season ticket holder.

And if you are a Panthers fan, if you've attended any Panthers game, you will know who this guy is.

If you're watching on DKN and see him, you notice a striking resemblance to Ric Flair.

And it's proven at the Panthers games because every time they show him on camera, the crowd woos.

He had that great seat that was right next to the Zamboni tunnel.

So the cameraman was always right there.

But the crowd would get excited every time he was up there.

There would be woos.

And this is going back to a time when they didn't have as much to be excited about as

Panther games.

But Steve was always there, just getting fans excited.

He was super friendly, always smiling.

You always see fans coming up to him, taking pictures.

And,

you know, Panthers lost a good one today.

I thought one of the great signs of how awesome of an organization the Florida Panthers have become is that Ric Flair was on the parade float, at least the first year.

I don't know if he was the second year.

I didn't see him.

Yeah, Steve.

But he was on the parade float the first time.

He was on the ice.

He was on the ice, yeah.

And I thought it was so cool.

He's just a regular guy, and he's a fan.

That became a popular thing, and they took care of their people.

And, you know, he'll be definitely missed around the arena.

It was always one of the better parts of the game when they would show him and everybody would go, woo!

Yeah, as Dave and I, as I said, Dave and I met him on the ice after the Panthers won in June.

He's a good guy,

really nice.

Everybody never got annoyed when people yelled woo in his face.

No, I see.

That was cool, man.

So, yeah, so rest in power, Steve.

Rest in power, brother.

You will be missed.

All right, let's talk about the CBA and the changes that are being implemented this upcoming season.

Not all the changes, because the 84-game season, that's going to happen next year.

All right.

So, there will be a playoff salary cap for the first time in league history.

This is in response to a handful of teams, including the defending champions, using long-term injured reserve as salary capital.

Crutch, I mean, whatever you want want to call it.

They were working within the rules.

Yeah.

That's nobody was breaking any rules.

To the tune of

four of the five, four or five of the last few Stanley Cup champions have used that rule.

So I think most playoff teams, whether they win the Stanley Cup or not, like you get a guy hurt.

It's the hockey season.

It's the playoffs.

Like shit happens.

Yeah.

Also, there will be a ban on deferred compensation starting the day the Panthers raise their Stanley Cup banner.

So no more days of, I guess, what, paying a base salary of a million dollars and then deferring it down the line?

Yeah, that's one.

I know that a big part of the way that the Panthers have constructed a lot of their contracts is as bonus.

Most of it comes in as bonus money.

So, the players get paid right on July 1st, right when the new league year starts.

And then their annual salary, which comes during the season, is a much smaller number.

So, they're getting most of their money up front.

I don't know if that's going to hamper the way that Bill Zito and his guys have constructed their contracts, but that's certainly going to be something to keep an eye on.

Yeah, it

seems this is all,

you know, how the Miami rules and the NCAA happened in the late 80s, early 90s.

It seems like it's an anti-Panthers rule.

I'm interested to see.

I know that the LTIR is going into effect for the playoffs, but there are changes that are being made to LTIR in the regular season as well in terms of the percentage of the cap and how much salary you can actually put on LTIR.

Yeah, it's like half?

Yeah,

I don't exactly understand

what the whole deal is.

I'm sure more information will come out about it, but I'm interested to see, obviously, the big news to start the year is that Matthew Kachuk is expected to be on LTIR until at least January.

How is that going to affect the Evan Rodriguez situation?

I'm already intrigued by what the Panthers are going to do with this.

And then, you know, look, I mean, Kachuk was going to be back for the playoffs.

So unless another injury happened, the Panthers probably weren't going to be beneficiaries of LTIR again because they were going to have to put his salary back on the books at some point.

But

someone else.

Maybe somebody gets right.

God forbid.

Maybe it'll never.

never hurt.

You know, God forbid somebody gets hurt and they were able to do it again and go out and, you know, get somebody at the deadline.

The question is going to be, what does this do for the trade deadline?

Is the trade deadline going to be a dud now?

Well, I mean, one big trade kind of happened.

Well, a couple of big trades happened at the deadline, actually.

But yeah, it's been mostly, especially free agencies.

And I mean, it's been mostly duds.

I mean,

the Panthers wouldn't have been able to get Brad Marshand

without

LTIR.

The Seth Jones trade, I think, would have worked because of the salary that was retained and then that moved

that worked.

But Marshand would have never worked.

That's another thing, by the way.

Double salary retention will be a no-no this year.

So you can't get another team to retain salary for.

But see, that's interesting.

You see, that plays into the whole Seth Jones thing.

And a lot of deals that have been made over the last few years, a lot of teams are retaining salary.

They want to build up their stables of young prospects and futures.

So it's going to be fun fun to see kind of how teams adjust in real time to this.

And I think, you know, we're going to be certainly watching from an interesting perspective following the Panthers.

And the other change is not this year, but next year, the big change is that the season's going to start in September now.

Yeah.

And the Cup, they're hoping to be handed out in mid-June instead of late June, the way it's been

this past season.

It was the 17th of June.

And then the season before it was the 24th of June.

And

that was a crazy thing.

That was crazy.

And then the Panthers were back in training camp three months later.

That was a crazy week when they won the first one.

And it was like they won it on the 24th.

They had like five days to celebrate.

The draft was far away.

The parade was on the 30th.

Lomberg was on the 30th.

It was on Sunday.

And then the next day was free.

It was like nuts.

So I'm definitely sure that they want to change these rules, whether it's Panthers-related or not.

And two more regular season games as well, an 84-game regular season.

Less preseason.

You know, I get why there were some people that wanted to hold on to that because the young guys, you know, that aren't in the NHL get a chance to be in an NHL uniform and an NHL arena for a lot of the parts.

But you got to do what's best guys.

It seems like they'd rather have more training camp time than preseason time.

Kind of the way in the NFL teams more want these joint practices rather than an actual preseason game.

It seems like that's kind of the trend for

the NHL as well.

Football and hockey, where like you either have to be going 100 miles per hour or there's no real point to doing it.

Like playing games that don't matter, like preseason games, like it's just...

silly.

So I'm all for cutting it back, letting them train more on their own, and then more regular season games where they actually count.

A couple of things also that will be implemented this year.

The dress code has been relaxed so Evanda Kane can show up in a track suit in Vancouver.

Bathrobes in South Florida was a big thing last year.

Yeah.

Well, that was in the arena.

As far as arriving to the arena, they wore their Swedish sauna suits to the river.

Yeah, but it's home and road rules different.

That was for home games.

Yeah, that was for home games.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think

it's across the board now.

It'd be fun to see if there's a couple of guys back with something interesting.

It's a good way to show good guys to show their personality.

I know Sarah Sivian must be a suit.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure she's loving this.

Also, players can endorse wine and spirits, so you know what that means.

And this would probably make Rose very happy that Alexander Barkoff can hold up a nice cold shot glass filled with Jagameis.

Damn, that's cold.

Yes.

So take a picture of that.

She must have a segue.

All right.

So, Connor McDavid, in an interview with TSN's Ryan...

Rashag said, quote, we're trying to find a scenario that works for everybody in terms of my family, my family's security, a deal that makes sense for the team to continue to have success, my belief in the season and the players this year has never been higher.

So, how?

So he's not quite saying what Angel Reese said.

He's not quite throwing his team and the organization under the bus.

No, no, he's trying to, I don't even know.

He's hedging his bets for sure.

But this is Connor McDavid.

This is like the alpha of the NHL.

He's on top of the mountain.

Nobody's disputing that he's the best hockey player in the world.

So whatever he wants to do, teams are going to be lining up to give him what he wants.

So it's basically going to come down.

Does he want to stay in Edmonton?

I think he wants to stay in Edmonton and he has said his intention is to win in Edmonton.

Some of the quotes suggest, I don't know.

Like, I can't get a read on the situation based off of his quotes.

What I expect to happen is he's going to take a three or four year deal short term and kind of say, here's your window.

Win now or I'm gone.

And if you win, I'll stay forever.

And if you don't, I'm going to go to Florida.

All right.

We'll get more into the CBA talk next week with Greg Reshinsky of ESPN.

And we will talk more about Connor McDavid or Van Dan Burke, who's going to come up next.

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David, what's your win of the week?

My win of the week, I'm throwing out my charitable, not my charitable arm, but my friendly arm, my hospitable arm.

A couple of Canadian teams put out some interesting images this week.

One of them of an ice center ice logo, the other one of a new third jersey.

We have the Montreal Canadians putting out a new Center Ice logo.

Very flashy, very look at me, look at me.

I like it.

It's fine, whatever.

It looks like the inside of the city.

I was going to say, that's the inside of the cup, isn't it?

Yeah, it looks like the inside of the Stanley Cup on a record.

And then the Senators...

came out with their third jersey.

And again, nothing necessarily wrong with it.

It's fine.

It's nice.

It's cool.

Whatever.

I'm not going to be buying the jersey.

I'm not going to be wearing the center ice logo.

They don't blow me away, but what does blow me away is that they're taking swings.

They're not afraid to put it out there and say, this is what I like.

You can like it if you want.

You know, these are teams, what they both made the playoffs last year.

They both had first-round exits, but you know, good for them.

They're taking swings.

I like what they're doing.

More teams need to just not be afraid to do whatever the hell they want and see what gets out there artistically.

I like it.

My winner of the week is the United States Hockey Hall of Fame, and the names have been released.

Scott Gomez is going in.

181 goals, 575 assists, and 756 points in his 16-year career.

Zach Farise,

434 goals, 455 assists, 889 points in his 19-year career.

Joe Pavelski, 476 goals, 592 assists, 1,068 points in his 18-year career.

Terra Monce was on the United States women's hockey team.

They won the first ever gold medal in 1998.

That was the big year.

That was a, that was, boy, that team was

stacked, boy.

And

she also won a silver medal in 2002.

And photographer Bruce Bennett, who photographed over 6,000 NHL games in 50 years, those are the names going in the U.S.

Hockey Hall of Fame.

Fun Scott Gomez, as I was looking up all the guys on hockey reference, I got to Scott Gomez.

He played, what do you say, 10, 1,079 games in the NHL, right?

Yeah.

46 of of those were for the florida panthers and yet his hockey reference picture is him in a panthers jersey of course it is

ethan you'll win zach parizé by the way still being paid by the minnesota wild is this the last year of that

good question i think it is the

anyway might win of the week guys the seattle kraken probably the most boring team in the nhl for being honest Cool uniforms, though, and they just did something.

It's a big swing.

I'm not sure how cool it will actually look if we can put it on the screen here.

They made a glow-in-the-dark uniform.

It's an all-black uniform, and the logo

lights up in glow-in-the-dark.

I mean, look, when they're actually playing the game, it's not, the effect's not going to work, but pregame intros, when they skate onto the ice, it's going to look really cool.

I think, I think we have another picture as well.

The uniform itself is really nice.

I mean,

their branding is awesome.

Very good.

Like, their logo is great.

Their uniforms are awesome.

I like their colors.

I like the blue and kind of like seafoam-y, greenish kind of color.

These are really cool, though.

You want to talk about big swings, David.

I have never seen a glow-in-the-dark jersey before.

So that's really, really cool.

I mean, the stars came close.

A cool with the highlighter

that they can do for their goaltender in Seattle.

They have glow-in-the-dark goalie paint.

So you put some of that on your mask

to match the jersey.

That would pretty much.

It'll be interesting to see if they do like something, if he does something cool for

that game.

But yeah, I think those jerseys are great.

Big swing.

And I'm all for teams taking big swings as well.

All right, David, what's your fail?

Oh, man.

My fail of the week is Riley Smith went to a comedy show recently.

I think it was in Las Vegas, but it was for comedian Will Burkhart.

And do we have the audio, Ethan?

All right, let's play that and let's just see what happened with Riley Smith getting heckled at the comedy show.

What's your name, sir?

Riley.

Are you working during the week?

I'm not designed.

Are you a teacher?

I'm not.

You're not.

Silly me.

What kind of job do you have?

Who do you play hockey for?

Is this like a how high are we?

Are we very high?

Everybody in that comedy club is like looking at this guy like, dude, you don't know this is Riley Smith.

I'm not gonna drop the puck.

Like, how the fuck?

I'm honored that you're here, bro.

That's that's I just got nervous all of a sudden.

I don't know why it's not.

I'm in.

Dude, you're really slow playing it.

Like, how's work?

It's alright.

It's a little chilly when I get to work, but

do you get recognized a lot?

Yeah, it's something.

the face he's so mad he got recognized look how pissed off he was sitting in the front row like you know like none of that uh de-alling your teeth

he just pulled out half of his teeth

how the front the front one's selling tats or just you know you keep popping them out such a hockey player move though like to take out your teeth at a random time like i feel like i've seen a lot of hockey players retired current they're happy to take out their teeth and show them to you rule of thumb never sit in the front row during a comedy show.

Right?

I learned that at a Jim Brewer comedy show.

Yeah.

I was like 23 years old.

I got like a pini colada for some reason, and boy, did he let me know about it.

Yeah.

Because what?

I got a pina colada.

So he had to say that.

No, say that again.

Say it the way you said it.

Pina colada.

Okay.

Isn't that how you say that?

All right.

All right.

I love it.

I thought you said pini colada.

No, pina coladadadadadadadadada.

Why would he say pini colada?

Drinking male genitalia.

Like, what are we talking about here?

All right.

My fail of the week, I'm going to disagree with David's winner.

My fail of the week is this.

Not only is the Senate Ice design in Montreal ugly, the senators' jerseys are bad too.

All right.

I feel like this is an addition for addition's sake.

It just does not look good.

The jerseys are ugly.

And also,

what are the hurricanes doing?

What are they doing?

This is a change for the sake of change.

This is worse because it's the road uniforms.

This is going to be...

worn in 41 games.

They just blacked out the

hurricane logo.

Is that what happened?

No, there's a couple of other changes to it.

I think they changed the font on it.

They also changed the sleeves, the bottom.

They actually look kind of Ottawa-like, don't they?

The sleeves like that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They did add black.

There's no white in the logo on the road

on the logo on the jersey.

So there's that too.

Ethan, you also agree with me, right?

Yeah, my fail of the week is also for the Kanes.

Not necessarily because of these uniforms.

I think they're okay.

Like, I don't love them so much.

My problem with the Kanes is is their best uniform is the uniform they never wear.

The one with the stit.

The red jersey is the best jersey.

Yes, the red jersey is the best jersey.

Just the OG.

Yes, their OG home jersey is the best jersey in this set.

The white one is okay.

I hate the red and black logo.

They need to have the white in there.

And don't even get me started on these stupid home jerseys with the smoky shoulders and the black.

I hate those uniforms so much.

Their red jersey was good.

It was one of the better sweaters in the league, and they went away from it, and I don't know why.

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it works for me.

And back into action.

And let's take a look at the national television schedule in the United States.

I don't know if this affects you, considering that you work on a Canadian-based network.

But for us, it kind of annoys me seeing

what's here.

Now, the Washington Capitals, they have 18 nationally televised games.

That's obviously for Alexander Ovechkin's, what could be his final season.

The Bruins, Avalanche, and Red Rings have 17 nationally televised games in the States.

The Stars, Olders, Wild Rangers, and Penguins have 16.

As you notice, the Rangers and Penguins are there, again, with a high amount of games, even though they missed the playoffs.

Obviously, that's a market-based situation.

The Blackhawks, Panthers, Lightning, Golden Knights have 15,

and the Panthers have 15.

Again, that's the most I've ever seen.

Yeah, that's a lot.

Yeah.

The Kings flyers.

And by the way, not a lot of ESPN plus exclusives.

It might be three.

There's only three.

There's only three.

So there are a lot of linear television for the Panthers this season.

The Kings, Flyers, Blues, and Maple Lease have 14 unknown goals all the way down the line.

What do you make of that?

So first off, I'm the oldest 47-year-old alive because when you say linear television, I get excited.

David, I'm the only guy who still has direct TV.

I've had direct TV.

I moved from Canada to go to USPN in 2010.

For 15 years, I've had direct TV.

Every year, the price goes in a little bit more because they know everyone else is cutting cable.

So a little faux game might might call them like, this is outrageous how much this price is.

Sir, we're taking 30% off for the next six months.

I'm like, okay, fine, I'll stay with you.

So when I hear linear television, I go, great.

That means it's on, as Roy would say, ESPN, ABC, TNT, NHL Network where I work.

I'm like, yeah, I can flip all these things.

So first off, I like hearing linear TV.

I'm the one guy who still does that.

It's hard to spread the wealth.

And I get that.

You know, certainly the capitalist thing I get, like you said, so Vetchkin, it could be his final year.

I get it.

Penguin's still a major market, even though I'm with you.

We get a little crossover fatigue, et cetera.

It It always becomes a challenge between,

you know, Sean McDonald's listening to What's Do God.

It was great.

They're talking about, you know, the worst things that people say to Sean, being one of the voices, obviously, of hockey and ESPN.

And Sean is so funny and so acerbic.

He's like, well, probably the worst thing is that everyone tells me that I'm a New York hating douche.

That seems to be a common refrain.

And he goes, why would I hate the New York Rangers?

The New York Rangers rate.

If the New York Rangers do well, that's good for me.

That's good for business.

But the Islanders don't, apparently.

Correct.

Apparently, the Islanders do not rate the Rangers do.

So I think the challenge becomes right for every executive, you go, okay, if you walk into any room in America and go, all right, hockey fan, program, what do you want?

I want Rangers, Bruins, Penguins, Blackhawks, Flyers, like the major markets, Red Wings.

Having said that, as we all know, those teams haven't been successful recently.

So do you still want the bigger markets, even if they're not playoff teams?

Like Red Wings, how many more years of the Eiser plan can we have?

And I think the answer is still yes.

I still want those teams because they're going to rate more than, with all respect, even a Vegas Golden Knights Panthers, great teams, but different markets.

So I understand your frustration.

It's annoying, but it's not surprising.

In Canada, what do you think they want?

It's all Make Beliefs games, Habs games.

After that, I think, okay, I guess we'll take the centers.

I guess we'll take the Flames.

It is what it is.

It's like the opposite here in the States, though.

I was just going to say, dude, David did this.

Five of the six Canadian teams have zero nationally televised games in the U.S.

And then Toronto has 14.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Rangers beat up on Montreal or like, you know, some of the people who are in the world.

I want to see Montreal.

Montreal's rivalries.

Montreal's a young, exciting team.

Lane Hudson, like, they made the playoffs last year.

I want to see more Quinn Hughes.

Quinn Hughes is an American superstar.

There are no Vancouver Canucks games on national television in the United States.

And the Senators Senators and Jets are playoff teams.

Like, I probably can under the team.

The Jets were the president's trophy last year.

And the Senators have another American superstar and Brady Kachuk, a guy I want to watch as an American hockey fan.

Yeah, so they've still got to work out the kinks of this list, basically.

I mean, is it because of Amazon Prime why we're not seeing that many Canadian teams nationally, except for the Maple Leaves, obviously, in the United States?

I don't think so, Roy, because with Amazon Prime, like our schedule is just Monday games.

So like to Ethan's point, what's the busiest nights?

It's always Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays.

Saturday's hockey night in Canada.

Okay, Monday's Prime.

But like Wednesday, you could definitely get a Habs game, whatever American team they're playing.

And kind of Ethan's point, because he's a genuine, passionate hockey fan, I've always said that to the Canadian audiences.

I go, hey, don't mistake the fact that just because you're Canadian, you just want Canadian teams.

As you guys know, I'm a flyer.

It doesn't matter where I'm from.

Like, I mean, if you like your team, I want storylines.

I want compelling games.

I would take...

Capitals Penguins, even now, vetching Crosby versus, you know, maybe a Battle of Alberta.

I mean, that's still always special because it's Calgary Edmonton, but but you guys know what I'm saying.

We want the best matchups, the best players.

You look for that rather than geography.

To me, like anybody who's rooting for geography, I'm like, I don't think you're a real fan of that, but that's how they think.

Explain to me why on network television for ABC, why are there no games for the defending Stanley Cup champion?

It doesn't make any sense to me.

I think the Penguins have six.

They didn't make the playoffs.

So hang on a second.

There's no Panthers games on ABC?

I didn't see any.

Zero.

That's stunning.

If you win the Cup, Roy, at the very least you get the first game.

Always thought like, like, hey, Panthers defending stakeup champions, they're going to raise the banner that special and the rematch.

Like, no matter what, it's like, okay, well, like we knew on Amazon Prime, when I look at the schedule, best game of the year was December 8th, 9th, whatever it was, when it was Panthers, Edmonton, and Edmonton.

So I'm with you.

If I'm ABC, whoever the host broadcaster, defending champion, you get at least two.

You get rematch of final and first game.

Yeah, the Panthers have to raise their banner at 5 p.m.

on a Tuesday.

That's my favorite thing because the Penguins and Rangers have to play at 8 p.m.

on opening night.

Have to see the tanking Penguins and and Sidney Crosby.

NIT Bowl.

That's weak.

I'm with you guys.

I am pro-Panther bias, enmity towards.

Well, that's why you're so welcome on the show, Adnan.

I mean,

but don't you think it makes sense, Dave?

Like, whatever the team is, who's the most, I want to say unpopular team, smallest market, let's say.

If the Columbus pulls it,

you still get two games.

You should get the first game when you raise the cup.

The cannons are out, and you're going to rematch it when you beat whomever.

Utah has 11 games on national television.

Seattle has six.

That's crazy.

It's a mammoth.

This goes back to kind of Ethan's.

Again, if it's an exciting team, again, but like Utah, like if you told me like top five most uninspiring team to watch, they might be on there.

Well, there's no superstars in Utah.

There's no

thing.

There's the sexy value.

It's just not there yet.

They're like a dark horse this year, but they don't have any superstar power that I want to watch more than I want to watch Quinn Hughes or Lane Hudson or, you know, somebody

else from one of the...

Yeah, Brady Kachuck, yeah.

Adnan,

also a very uninspiring team.

I joke with our buddy John Foreston, who's the voice of Amazon Prime, and he's an awesome job by a buddy.

Like, you got to tell Maddie Beneers to pick it up.

Like, like,

if I throw on the scale of Kraken, what am I excited to watch here?

Anyways, go ahead.

Adnan, I wanted to ask you: we're talking about Canadian teams and Canadian superstars.

The hot story around the league right now is the lack of a Conor McDavid extension so far this offseason.

He is eligible to sign an extension now.

Hasn't happened yet.

There's been more and more quotes coming out seemingly every day.

Based off what you've seen, what you've heard, how big, if you were an Oilers fan, how big would your level of concern be right now?

Yeah, plutonium level.

I mean, this is insane.

I mean, i think it's a fascinating topic right now 1.21 gigawatt style i mean it's

because i understand all sides so mc david says you know i don't want some of the money i want all the money let's suppose he's saying that his team market whatever you want to say okay i get it dude you're the best bun in the world proven that for so many years back to a sale income appearances okay whatever that extension could be if it's a high av two years 36 if it's something lofty it's obviously you know triple figures but everyone knows well if you swallow that much of the cap and if so much is going towards you in dry cell etc

is your ability to win a winner so what's what's most important to you?

Getting the most money or building being a winner?

And the answer is both.

I want the most money, and I want to win the Stanley Cup, and I deserve the most money because I'm the best player.

And you figure out how you're gonna make the rest of the pieces fit.

That's I genuinely think, right?

Like, like that, McDavid, I'm like, Yeah, I want, I want yes and yes.

Like, we're gonna win, and I want all the money.

That's a salt, man.

Just want it all, I want it now.

All right, all right.

So, so, Dry Sid is dry side is making what 14 million the highest AAV in the league.

So, basically, Connie McDavid's gonna have to make $14 million and one dollar.

That's what you said: 14.001.

Boy, I just go to random numbers from the other day.

I go, two for 36.

They go, I go, yeah.

I go, because 18 million to me seems like he's like, all right, I'm significantly better than Dry Cell.

Like, I'm not just like 14.1.

I'm not 15.

No, I'm getting 18 million, man.

That's the statement.

That's a hell of a statement.

But

where are you building your team?

If you have what?

32 million.

32 million cap.

And something I saw yesterday is that Zach Hyman, I didn't realize, it's going to be 34 this year.

Nude is going to be 33.

And Matthias Eckholm is going to be 36.

There's concerns if you're Edmonton about how long your window is right now.

Yeah.

A thousand percent.

But the bottom line is this: Ethan, imagine he leaves.

Like Edmonton, as we've all discussed it,

it's not exactly the jewel of the north.

Not a whole lot going on in Edmonton.

There's no Calgary.

Right.

It's no Calgary.

Calgary is a good town, man.

Maybe it's an hour and a half.

By the way, no Calgary and Amazon Prime while we're venting towards TV partners.

But Edmonton, I'm like, bro, if you leave McDavid after you lost Gretzky and you didn't win his staling cup, at least Gretz left him with four cups.

At least Messier had five staling cups.

You left with the supposed dynasty.

McDavid left when you could have afforded him, but you pissed him off because you wouldn't give him all the money and you couldn't build a winner.

Like that, that's what McDavid knows that he's got his play.

Now, Edmonton's response to it would be, look at, we can't win if we don't have some financial flexibility.

This was pre-salary cap era in the 80s.

This was a long time ago.

You can't win cups without players taking a little bit less.

Can we take a bit of a haircut?

Do you truly care about winning more than anything else?

Then you don't need the 14-1.

We can give you 12-5 or 13.

We'll back end it.

There's things we can do.

You're going to get money.

You just can't get the most money.

And by the way, you can't do anything right now anyways.

Like everyone's signed.

The free agent class will be good next year, the year after that.

So two-year high AAV, as Ethan said, it's a smaller window now.

Let's win a cup and figure this out.

I was going to say, it seems like.

Short-term deal is what's going to happen for McDavid here.

And he's going to say, you've got this many years.

And if you don't get it done in this many years, I'm going somewhere else in ring chasing, right?

Right.

Right.

And it's got to be short enough term.

He doesn't want to take a six-year deal because then no one's going to sign McDavid at 34 because he's not going to get the 10-year deal.

So you're right.

I think it's two or three-year deal, which is a hell of a thing.

You're going to go to management and said, you got two years to figure this out.

I'm gone.

All right.

Let's assume none of that happens.

Okay.

Where's he going?

Florida.

Jill Cedo's going to make it work.

That's the one place you can take less money and it's all good.

And it's not because of the friggin tax thing because there's five other teams that he can go to and deal with the tax thing.

It's because Florida, it's just not a selfish place.

They have made it abundantly clear that they only want to win Stanley Cups.

That's it.

Take less money.

everybody take the highest aav on that team is i think 10.5 matthew to chuck yeah that is crazy my first options were like florida tampa vegas warm weather teams

like you know all the stuff that people are saying whether it's right or wrong like i don't see him going to

yeah dallas i don't see him going to the bruins i don't think he wants to go to the rangers i don't think he's going to go anywhere that's like a media cauldron and like i think if he's making the move he's going to go to a comfortable spot correct that's how he ends up in toronto davis we say he's not going to get a media cauldron and then he's going to go to Toronto or no chance.

No chance.

All right.

Adnan, I've got something for you that's from Roy and My Childhood.

This, I'm getting off hockey for a second here.

Uh, this is a commercial that played when we were younger, when you were younger.

This song has been burned in my head forever, but I watched it the other day and I found a very interesting hockey nugget.

So, if we can play it for him, and let's see if he can pick it out.

Off in the distance, the game's dragging on.

There's strikes on the batter, some runners are on.

But suddenly, everyone's looking at me.

My mind has been wondering what could it be.

Hadn't you remembered this partial?

I look up above,

and a baseball falls into my glove.

I

play

a right field.

It's important to know.

Goldberg.

What's Goldberg doing there?

I play a right field way out

where the dandelions crew is ranching.

Oh my God.

Wow.

Love that stuff, man.

Nice and hokey and sentimental and nostalgic.

That commercial was on so much back in the day.

And now there's a mighty duck.

I think that's so cool.

The fact that Goldberg is in there is pretty remarkable.

I guess he made the rounds as a child actor.

All right.

Atnan, what movie have you watched recently that you can actually critique?

Roy, you'll love this.

Highest to lowest.

Spike Lee Joy back with Denzel.

So I work in Secaucus, New Jersey.

At Moby Network and Angel Network is there.

I don't often go to the theater there because I don't live there.

But highest to lowest, as you know, Roy is now streaming available ever.

Apple TV Plus.

Came out a month ago.

It was only in select theaters.

So I'm not sure with all respect to, I'm sure it was playing in a few theaters in Miami, but it wasn't playing a ton of places.

I don't think it was playing in Sunrise, so to speak.

So anyways, Realm Where I Live, which is a fairly popular area, not a lot of theaters, but it's playing in Seekakus.

All right, no problem.

Opening night, eight o'clock.

I'm there.

Sold out.

I'm pissed.

I'm like, I can't play.

Like, I'm happy, but I'm pissed.

So it took me a little time.

And unlike so many people today who go, well, in four weeks of streaming, I go, no, next available opportunity, I'm going to see this movie.

So I was thrilled to see it in theaters.

I'm glad everybody who did see it in theaters, if you had the capability, it was good.

You know, it wasn't elite.

I've seen the the original kurosa film on which upon space and i re-watched it's called high and low it's an all-time classic great great film but there's some joy in seeing denzel and spike being reunited it still has the visual panache that spike has his great love and reverence for new york city there's a wonderful set piece in the corresponding film i'll give you a real short synopsis denzel plays a music record executive who believes his son is kidnapped, then is faced with the moral dilemma when the kidnapper realizes he actually kidnapped the wrong son.

The son is his close friend, Jeffrey Wright's son.

Jeffrey Wright, of course, great actor.

Him and Denzel together are awesome.

What do you do?

Do you still pay the the ransom money because it's $17.5 million and you're this executive who right now is hammering money?

Or do you go, hey, sorry, not my problem.

It's not my kid.

So that's, that's the moral dilemma.

And the chorus often, there's this great scene on the train where they got to dump the money off.

Spike adapts it to today's world and has a great, great scene.

What are they doing?

They're going to Yankee Stadium.

So Denzel's got the Yankees hat on.

Nicholas Toturo scream at the camera, Boston sucks.

Boston sucks.

They've got this great scene in the Fortrain.

They got to give the money off.

ASAP Rocky shows up.

There's a great scene with Denzel and him.

Bottom line, it's a good movie, entertaining, enjoyable.

I hope people see it on Apple TV Plus, but I really hope it's see it in theaters.

Great to see Denzel and Spike back together again.

And Roy, I kick it to you.

People saying the best Spike League joint with Denzel, I think it's obviously Malcolm X.

Yeah.

But votes for He Got Game, Mob Better Blues.

Obviously, Inside Man's a good movie, too.

What do you say?

He got game.

Do the right thing.

Do the right thing.

Second behind Malcolm X.

So, yeah.

Did you see he recently revealed his name's not Denzel?

It's Denzel.

Denzel.

Yeah, we knew that.

We knew that.

Yeah, we knew that.

He's been saying that for years now.

Denzel?

Denzel.

That's what his mom says.

Patrick Sertain.

Patrick Sertan.

Roy's right.

For For those that don't know it, because Ethan's right now, everyone knows it.

Dad's name is obviously Denzel or Denzel.

So mom would say Denzel to them both.

So to differentiate, it became Denzel for Denzel Washington.

But it is shorty.

Adnan, I watched Back to the Future for the first time recently.

Oh, my God.

What an event.

Okay, please.

I watched it.

I'll lose my head.

I flew to Chicago and I was on the flight.

And I'm like, now's the chance.

Now's my chance.

I'm not.

When else am I going to do it?

And I watched it.

It was great.

I loved it.

Of course it's great.

I've told you this before, in my room right now, this office, my movie office, et cetera, I have 10 movie posters.

I'm looking at taxi driver, which you already alienated me on.

And right over here is Back to the Future.

So one, one for two.

Ethan comes through.

I love Back to Future.

Quentin Tarantino, forget about me.

How about an author like Quentin Tarantino?

He is called Back to Future, a perfect.

Yes.

Oh, my favorite director.

It is David, right?

Zemakis did an amazing job with it.

It's obviously a great script by Bob Gale and Michael J.

Fox, my favorite actor, so funny.

The comic timing.

You know, what I always tell people is Back to the Future has the great mix of the science fiction fantasy, a DeLorean, 88 miles an hour, but it's got love.

It's got heart.

What's cooler than being able to go back?

Imagine whatever your relationship was with your dad.

Imagine you go back to the father right now and be in high school with your dad and trying to teach them to fall in love with a girl.

Like all those scenes together, they're so perfect and so beautifully done.

I get a little choked up the scene where, you know, George McFly is talking about, you know, he goes, because Marty's trying to understand his psychology, right?

And he's like, why don't you just try it?

He goes, well, I really couldn't take that kind of rejection.

And then Marty goes, yeah, I know what you mean.

He almost says, dad.

Like, I I mean, look, look, those scenes are so beautifully done.

It's obviously got great humor as well.

Cinefile interviews, essays, and tales from the red carpet.

Please pick that up where

you read and buy books.

That would be nice.

Anton Burke from Prime Monday Night Hockey.

Thank you for joining us, Anton Ann.

Listen, I know this segment's over, but we have to keep going.

David had a friendly critique.

And this is, I know, I was going to save it for the next time because we didn't have time for it today.

But

I'll just do it right now.

Okay.

You're missing one thing from your book, in my opinion.

There's no hockey hook.

There was no chat with Russell Crowe about Mystery Alaska.

There was no Rob Lowe discussion about Youngblood.

Like, that's the one thing that I felt was missing.

So it's a friendly critique, but for the sequel, there needs to be a hockey chapter.

I was about to say, just like Back the Future, I have Back Future 2, this is excellent advice for why I can convince Mango Publishing to get a sequel out there.

Excellent, excellent boy.

Somebody asked, by the way, great hockey movies.

We've discussed it before on the pod.

And again, I pumped up The Rocket and Goon, which I know, David, we've talked about before.

Great Canadian underrated movies.

Yes.

Well, we need to see The Rocket, Roy and I do.

Yes.

We still have not found a way to watch it yet here down in

the toe, Dave, the big toe of Florida.

Dave's white whale now is Hanka's area, so he can talk Raising Alaska.

Is that what it's called?

Raising Alaska.

No, no, I'm

combining Raising Arizona, right?

Yeah,

Rosie's asking if you've seen

the summer I turned pretty.

No, I've heard of it.

Rosie, did you like it?

I've just seen it.

She's listening.

She's not.

Oh, there she is.

Her Wi-Fi sucks.

She's out of iPad.

I've been making this kid's watch

the text once.

That's great, Rose.

Thank you.

That O'Hare Wi-Fi is not really doing so good.

No, no.

Can somebody send me Rosie's number so I can text her and find out what she actually said after?

Yes.

Yeah, I got you.

All right.

Thanks so much, guys.

Appreciate the support of the book.

And by the way, book tour, come to Miami.

I will see you guys in exactly three months in South Florida.

Oh, I can't wait for you to come down here.

We're going to, well, I can't get drinks actually.

Well, maybe by then, it's three months away.

Yeah, hopefully.

We'll see you then, Atnan.

Thanks, boys.

Appreciate it, you always.

Thanks to Atnan Virg for joining us.

Go get his book, please.

So, Rosie's not here.

Rosie, I believe this is the, what, this is the second week of the week.

Two.

Yep.

Yeah.

So she's in Chicago, right?

Yeah, she landed in Chicago

for Iowa State.

Going to Ames.

Ames, Iowa, for Iowa State and Iowa.

Yeah, so

please, Lucy, take care of our girl because as you remember, last year she got pepper sprayed.

So, let's not have that happen to her again.

She did return to Columbus.

No pepper spray in Columbus.

Well, they didn't get on the field this time.

Yeah.

True.

They stayed away.

No pepper spray.

Hey, it's Rose.

Rose is Rose.

Rose, how are you doing, Rosie?

Rosie is frozen.

Popped in for a little bit.

Oh, hair.

Can we put up the frozen?

Wait, no, she's not frozen.

She's not frozen.

She looks frozen to me.

She's frozen.

Yeah, just put up the frozen.

Put up, Rose.

Put up the frozen.

She's moving.

Oh, she is moving.

Oh, hey.

Hey.

Is that the shocker?

What are you doing?

No,

what hat is that?

The Alaska Rainbow Bears?

Oh, no.

This is perfect.

This is great television.

This is great audio as well.

That's awesome.

Just don't say anything, Rosie.

All right.

We love you, Rosie.

Enjoy Alaska.

I don't have a microphone.

All right, for Ethan and Jason and Gino, that's David Dwark.

My name is Roy Bellamy.

This, what's the hockey show?

We will see you guys next week.

Thank you for listening and watching.

We're almost there.

Hockey season is about to get started soon with training camp and the preseason.

Cannot wait.

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