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Speaker 15 Diana Rossini is going to be here for all of your football needs in a second, but I just want to pause the show for a second.

Speaker 15 I didn't do this in the local hour and I should have because Ray Hudson is an international legend. He's a national legend, and he's a local legend.

Speaker 15 I mean, he started soccer down here with the Fort Lauderdale Strikers and has been one of the most entertaining personalities anywhere in sports broadcast worldwide for, I'm gonna say, 30 years, because maybe before that.

Speaker 15 And I just want to introduce you here with some sound from Ray Hudson so that you hear him calling a messy goal, and all of his calls were poetry.

Speaker 15 I can't believe that he's retiring because he's a voice for literally 50 years.

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Speaker 6 Again, the menacing man arrives and sinks his flaming spear into the hearts of Real Madrid. Messi born in the crossfire hurricane and he is jumping Jack Flash.

Speaker 6 The defenders are left with bees flying around them. Messi, you could drop a tarantula into his shorts and he'll still be cool.

Speaker 4 I doubt that.

Speaker 15 Put it on the poll at Lebertard Show. If you dropped a tarantula down Messi's shorts, would he still be cool?

Speaker 15 You should hear Chris Whittingham the way he talks about what his face does when he's next to Ray Hudson and he hears something like that break out.

Speaker 15 And the child in him is mesmerized because he can't believe he's standing next to Ray Hudson.

Speaker 20 Yeah, I grew up with Ray Hudson as not just the voice of soccer for what felt like a niche sport in this country for so long. And as the tide rose, his calls became more and more profound.

Speaker 20 My favorite color commentator in soccer easily. You mentioned the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, also an impressive run with the Miami Fusion.

Speaker 20 And not only should you hear Chris Whittingham talk about what Ray Hudson does when he's making those calls, but you should hear Ray Hudson talk about Chris Whittingham when he was on an episode of Golas and how he credits Chris Whittingham for giving us this little run.

Speaker 20 We got to hear Ray Hudson call Champions League soccer.

Speaker 4 It's been so cool.

Speaker 15 Man, I cannot tell you how happy I am for Whittingham because he's climbing around in his dreams and he's helping.

Speaker 15 He just helped Ray Hudson have his League Corso moments at the end of his career because he was genuflecting before someone he knew to be a broadcasting legend.

Speaker 15 I actually wondered about this the other day when Tony, we were talking about Tony and the idea of getting into radio and what a bad idea I thought it was to

Speaker 15 get into radio. And I wondered to myself if we can even build radio stars like that anymore.
Can you even have a future Ray Hudson today?

Speaker 15 Is there somebody today that 50 years from now, they're going to retire and you're going to be like, that's one of the best voices to ever call games. Can it even happen anymore?

Speaker 15 Or does that end with Vin Scully and that era of broadcaster?

Speaker 12 No, I think it happens, but I don't think you have people that come out the gates with this type of energy.

Speaker 20 Here's another guy, Kevin Harlan. He had to grow that character over time because when you get into play-by-play, they tell you to kind of zap that stuff out of your personality.

Speaker 20 Can you imagine if Ray Hudson burst on the scene talking this way? Somebody would tell him, hey, cool it with that.

Speaker 22 Stop making it about you.

Speaker 20 You kind of have to buy some credibility with the audience over time.

Speaker 20 But I do think, look, he's a little bit more polarizing, but I think Gus Johnson will kind of feel a similar way for some folks, especially

Speaker 20 those that, I think the best sport he did was college basketball and feel a certain way. Kevin Harlan, as I mentioned before, but it's hard.

Speaker 12 It's hard for new guys. And Chris Whittingham is one of those new guys.

Speaker 20 And it was really, really cool to have Ray say such incredible things about Witty's ability to call soccer.

Speaker 20 That's a very difficult job that Witty has, and it's made easier when you have a partner like that. Same, I'm sure Phil Shane thinks a world of Ray Hudson.

Speaker 20 Ray Hudson and Lee Corso in a matter of weeks is tough.

Speaker 15 Diana Roussini is becoming a legend in this business. She's the senior NFL insider for the athletics.
She's the host of the Scoop City podcast. And her football information is second to none.

Speaker 15 She is wildly informed. She spent a lot of time at Vikings Camp.
We'll get to that story in a second and football. But I need an update on your son's obsession with eggs.

Speaker 15 A little weird child is growing in your home who loves eggs and is putting them all over the house. Have you found any rotting and what is happening here with this young boy and his egg obsession?

Speaker 24 Yes, first of all, thank you to all the viewers and listeners of the show who have reached out with their theories as to why my two-year-old has an obsession with just holding eggs around the home.

Speaker 24 He does not eat them. I think we have to make that clear.

Speaker 24 He just likes to hold them and walk around the house morning and night.

Speaker 24 We've been trying to talk to him about it a little bit more because my thought is something's up, right? This has been going on for, I think about two months now. It was the summer when it started.

Speaker 24 And he won't really answer me because he's two.

Speaker 24 So this morning, I was actually putting him in in his car seat and he was looking over my shoulder and he said, Mom, egg, egg in the tree.

Speaker 24 And I didn't really have time to stop because I had to get him off to daycare to get back to work. And I actually just thought he was making it up.

Speaker 24 And so I dropped him off and I came home and I pulled in the driveway and I'm like, you know what? Let me just go look at the tree. What was he talking about? And there was an egg in the tree.

Speaker 24 So he was right. So not, he just has this obsession.
He sees them. He wants to hold them.

Speaker 4 He didn't put it there, right? A bird laid an egg.

Speaker 24 It was a bird laid an egg and he spotted it. And by the way,

Speaker 24 it was tiny. I don't even know how this little boy saw it.

Speaker 24 But he was right. So he's got some superpower.
I don't know what this means for us in terms of what Joey will turn into one day. Probably nothing.

Speaker 15 It's not a great superpower.

Speaker 22 And I'm sorry that Dan asked you if your kid put the tree, the egg inside the tree, knowing he's two years old and had to climb this tree.

Speaker 15 Yeah, well, this is the way

Speaker 15 the way Diana describes her life, I do envision this child as a bit of a spider monkey. Puts things in the microwave like the cell phone.
I think this child can climb around the house.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 15 look, the way I'm imagining her life is she's picking up the phone and someone's yelling about Vrabel and there's a child climbing on her head.

Speaker 24 Yeah, that's close. I had to take them for shots the other day and my husband can't believe I did it.
But I knew Joey was going to be scared because his brother was going to get the shots first.

Speaker 24 So I brought an egg. And I just, so Joey held an egg while he got his shots and he just, he didn't break it.
He just held it while he had

Speaker 15 a comfort egg.

Speaker 24 It's his comfort egg. It's so bizarre.

Speaker 3 It's an emotional support egg.

Speaker 24 The thing is, it's not like he just has one. Like even today, um, at school with show and tell, bring in your, uh, your stuffy.
And Joey doesn't have one. So I'm like, do I just send him with an egg?

Speaker 24 Like, it's just,

Speaker 24 there's, I have no understanding of this. Um, but, but, yes, um, we have found more eggs.
We found um, an egg in the back of one of their little uh trailer trucks.

Speaker 24 Um, and they also have like a Lightning McQueen little car.

Speaker 15 No smells yet, no smells of rotting eggs have been in the house yet.

Speaker 24 Okay, we're we're in good shape, and and someone, one of the listeners messaged me that I need to be careful, um, for ants and bugs. So, um, I'm on high alert here.
Okay,

Speaker 24 add another thing to my plate, you know?

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 15 Football is crazy this first week. And we haven't talked at all about last night's game that just seemed to me like the Bears would win that.

Speaker 15 And I'm still not used to first-time starters at quarterback winning football games, looking competent. And just league-wide, none of these guys throw interceptions.
Like, I'm just used to.

Speaker 15 Somewhere there's going to be a Zach Wilson who goes out there and throws five interceptions.

Speaker 12 But he did throw the interceptions.

Speaker 24 Well, he did. I was going to say, he was terrible.
JJ was terrible.

Speaker 24 the takes were flying diana and then in a fourth quarter in which they scored 21 points just totally made some tweets age poorly immediately what was your takeaway that was super impressive yeah it it shifted quick right like do you see all the people backing it up like oopsie like went a little too hard there um and i have my own fun with the minnesota vikings fan base anyways because we had we had reported a lot in the offseason that there were conversations about possibly bringing in aaron rogers and fans didn't want to hear it because JJ's the guy.

Speaker 24 And I spent a lot of time with the Vikings this summer. And look, Kevin O'Connell is sharp.
He's obviously a great teacher.

Speaker 24 He has a true understanding of the position, but he was preaching patience too. Like he's never, JJ McCarthy's never played in an NFL game and he's coming off an injury.

Speaker 24 So what he did last night was just absolutely spectacular and just credit to his moxie.

Speaker 24 And I just think what he did last night changes the direction of this entire team because they can say what they want about what they thought of JJ McCarthy before the game, right?

Speaker 24 Because you heard, how many quotes did you see coming out of Minnesota? If you didn't see him, I'll tell you. It was like he was the chosen one.
And it was, it almost felt over the top at times.

Speaker 24 And guess what? You win a game like last night and he lives up to all of it.

Speaker 24 And that changes the dynamic of that locker room and just the way we view this Vikings team, which is a team that is built to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 14 Diana.

Speaker 19 Diana, how close were the Vikings to, instead of going with McCarthy, to either paying Darnold or actually bringing in Rodgers?

Speaker 24 Yeah, so going back to free agency when they had to make that decision, it wasn't easy from what I gather. Like they had serious talks because remember, they had Daniel Jones there too, right?

Speaker 24 So Daniel Jones, he wanted to be the starter. He didn't want to have to come in there and compete.
And the Vikings were like, hey, we're going to sign you. Come back here, compete against JJ.

Speaker 24 And if you win the job, you're the starter.

Speaker 24 daniel's like nah i can just go somewhere else make more money and pretty much have a better shot of winning right because you know from daniel jones' perspective

Speaker 24 competing against the draft pick the top choice is gonna be a tougher uh challenge especially when they want jj mccarthy to work whereas the anthony richardson experiment had already kind of been out uh and obviously daniel jones seemed to have made the right decision as did the colts as for sam darnold there were definitely tons of discussions what what do you do he was fantastic in the right

Speaker 15 This is what I want to ask you, Diane, and I want to speed her up in a second with the music, but

Speaker 15 I want to ask one more Vikings question because

Speaker 15 you're saying here they're built to win a Super Bowl. I do not believe they are built to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 15 I believe that what Sam Darnold did with them last year was a bit of a mirage that then got exposed in the playoffs when Sam Darnold became Sam Darnold. Are you expecting J.J.

Speaker 15 McCarthy to be better this year than Sam Darnold was last year? Because I'm not. I'm not assuming that J.J.
McCarthy in his first year can be better than Sam Darnold.

Speaker 15 So I don't think the Vikings are any kind of Super Bowl chance.

Speaker 24 No, I agree with you. I do think there has to be a bit of a patience.

Speaker 24 At least the fan base needs to be patient here.

Speaker 24 But when you see what he was able to handle last night in Chicago in the fourth quarter and bouncing back from a pick six, bouncing back from the turnovers and really just a poor performance for three quarters and rally his team team to win a guy that just doesn't lose.

Speaker 24 Look, I don't want to overreact. It's week one.
I get it. But for an organization that put all their chips in, Kevin O'Connell, Quasi, this ownership, everyone said he's the guy.

Speaker 24 This gamble seems to be working out based on just this one game. And look at the way Kevin O'Connell can coach.

Speaker 24 It doesn't really even matter at this point who the quarterback is. He's able to figure out how to run an offense through his quarterback, even if it's a little simple.

Speaker 24 Because that was some of the the criticism here was that, oh my goodness, unleash this kid. Like he's got the training wheels on.
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Speaker 18 Dan Lebatard.

Speaker 24 Are you on the fan right now? Did Mike Greenberg call you yet? Are you ever going to go back to ESPN? People think it's so weird you're a writer now. All those years on TV? All those years?

Speaker 24 And now you write? Who reads that? Stugats. Why did he take a job at the Atlantic? Mom, I work at the Athletic.
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Speaker 15 All right, so hold on a second. How many people, Diana, in the league, would you assign that trait, which I would believe to be the greatest of all the traits I could ever give a coach?

Speaker 15 It doesn't matter who his quarterback is. Like, how many people are we giving that to? Shanahan and him? Like, how many others are.

Speaker 3 Andy Reid?

Speaker 20 Andy Reid.

Speaker 19 What?

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter who.

Speaker 20 I understand he has the greatest quarterback, arguably of all time. He also did it with Alex Smith and got more out of Alex Smith.
And McNabb too.

Speaker 21 Yeah, and when McNabb would go out, he would do it with Ty Dettmer, Coy Detmer, Doug Peterson.

Speaker 20 Like, it didn't matter.

Speaker 3 Chad Henney win a playoff game? Yeah.

Speaker 15 Again, though, if we're assigning value to coaches at every turn, I don't believe I can give any team or its fan base a greater coach trait than it doesn't matter who his quarterback is.

Speaker 20 Diana can speak to how highly people think of Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 3 Kevin O'Connell?

Speaker 24 Yeah. I think there are multiple organizations that they could start from scratch and

Speaker 24 pick a coach right now in football. Kevin O'Connell is a top two choice.

Speaker 20 Dan, I get what you're thinking in not really counting them as a Super Bowl contender, but they won 14 games and and they did it with Sam Darnold. Your main problem with them was Sam Darnold.

Speaker 20 They got Sam Darnold out of the equation. Now, I know what's at play here because I thought Michigan won a national title, effectively hiding J.J.
McCarthy.

Speaker 19 And for three quarters, getting a lot of those tweets in the first half.

Speaker 12 And for three quarters, while I wasn't putting it out there on Twitter, I was like, man, this dude sucks.

Speaker 20 That is a bad pick six.

Speaker 21 And what he did in that fourth quarter shut me the hell up.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 24 And I think it just

Speaker 24 adds to what this has been. The storyline all offseason was, can he really do it? Kevin O'Connell seems to think this is the guy.

Speaker 24 And despite the fact that he's had so much success with so many other quarterbacks in the past, I don't know. I think there was some doubt.
Like,

Speaker 24 is he really the right guy? Is this ownership forcing Kevin O'Connell to run with J.J. McCarthy because they traded up to get him?

Speaker 24 And he knew something.

Speaker 24 And I think they've got at least something to work with here.

Speaker 24 Dan, I'm with you. Do I think that J.J.
McCarthy in one performance means that the Minnesota Vikings should anoint them as the Super Bowl champs?

Speaker 24 No, but I think he showed enough that they can work with that.

Speaker 15 I understand what you guys are saying.

Speaker 15 I'm just saying my history of viewing the quarterback position, generally speaking, this person can't come in and replace Sam Darnold and over the course of a season be better than Sam Darnold.

Speaker 15 Like, just

Speaker 15 the history of how it is this sport works.

Speaker 20 And so, Jaden Daniels went to the NSC championship last year.

Speaker 15 I know, but this is, I have not gotten used to

Speaker 15 guy gets there immediately and can be someone who's actually better than what Sam Darnold was last year. I still am not at a point where I expect rookie quarterback.
Like, that's a great expectation.

Speaker 15 I know it's still Sam Darnold, but the numbers Sam Darnold put up last year were worthy of winning 14 games.

Speaker 20 Understood, but also what we're doing here, calling him a rookie quarterback. Remember, he was in that system for a full year.

Speaker 20 He didn't play last year, so he did get valuable experience. He's not working at it from the same level of experience your typical rookie wouldn't have.

Speaker 24 Correct. He, I mean, they, they really, like when I was with them at camp, it it was as basic as it can be in terms of how they were managing him to me because he's a rookie, right?

Speaker 24 He did not play much. He didn't play.
He's never obviously played in an NFL game.

Speaker 24 You know what I was thinking about, though, like over the weekend, because we saw Aaron Rodgers look good.

Speaker 24 Sam Darnold look good. Daniel Jones looked fantastic.
He was the best quarterback in football over the weekends.

Speaker 24 I think that added to the excitement of Monday night for what J.J. McCarthy could do because, look, all three of their options looked like they were playing well.

Speaker 24 So the fact that they were able to also come out of this as winners, I just think it's

Speaker 24 great momentum for this team.

Speaker 15 Forgive my interruption. I just need to speed all of this up because we've got so much to get to.

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 15 she just casually said that Daniel Jones was better than Aaron Rodgers over the weekend.

Speaker 12 Somebody told you a couple of months ago, Daniel.

Speaker 24 Seven possessions, seven touchdowns. It was like ridiculous.

Speaker 15 No, it wasn't seven touchdowns.

Speaker 4 No, ultimately.

Speaker 12 He scored.

Speaker 15 It wasn't seven touchdowns,

Speaker 15 nor was it as many points as Aaron Rodgers put up.

Speaker 24 But by the way, how have we not already built in a segment of like rotten eggs? Like we should be doing

Speaker 24 every Tuesday, the rotten egg segment, and we just pick out the worst football.

Speaker 3 Aaron Rodgers scored one more point than him. That's right.

Speaker 24 One. It's Daniel Jones we're talking about, by the way.
Why are you acting like you're not impressed by this?

Speaker 20 I mean, Dan's such a jilted jilted lover. He's just begging for Aaron Rodgers to give him a reason to come back.

Speaker 15 It was one more point than them on a 60-yard field goal, and it was one more point than Daniel Jones scored.

Speaker 3 They took their gas. Put it on the poll.

Speaker 15 Who was better, Sunday? Daniel Jones or Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 12 You want Aaron Rodgers back so bad?

Speaker 26 He was back. There's no disputing that he was back.

Speaker 3 You want to be back in his loving.

Speaker 26 Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Speaker 15 No, I do not.

Speaker 26 No, I most certainly do not.

Speaker 3 Aaron, that's incredible.

Speaker 15 You got to admit that it's funny to see the four-time MVP swallowed by Jet Sewage look like that in his first game returning to the Jets in Pittsburgh, giving them hope on offense.

Speaker 15 So, first question, Diana Rossini, was it real?

Speaker 24 Aaron Rodgers or week one?

Speaker 15 Aaron Rodgers, is that what he's going to be? Is that what he's going to be this season?

Speaker 24 Yes, I heard he had a great camp that he looked like he was 30 years old. That was from someone that was around him all summer.

Speaker 15 Explain what we just saw then. How is Aaron Rodgers looking like that there when he looked like that there?

Speaker 24 He's healthier and he's got a better surrounding casp at this point. And maybe there's something about coaching.

Speaker 24 I know no one wants to talk about it, but maybe the coaching setup for Aaron Rodgers wasn't spectacular.

Speaker 15 The Giants quarterback situation.

Speaker 24 I think it's, I mean, not think, it will be Russell Wilson starting against the Dallas Cowboys, but I don't think the leash is very long. They love Jackson Dart.

Speaker 24 I think his personality matches up perfectly with Brian Dable. They believe in him.
I just think they're waiting for the right moment here, knowing that their schedule is brutal.

Speaker 24 It's just a matter of when at this point.

Speaker 15 20 extra seconds on Micah Parsons fallout that you didn't report before.

Speaker 24 He wanted the Philadelphia Eagles and the Green Bay Packers, and this wasn't something that he started to think about just a week before the trade happened. This had been going on for months.

Speaker 24 Apparently, they knew it was over way before we did.

Speaker 24 They were just going about their business, waiting for for this thing to come together. You had asked me to go find some teams that were willing to trade

Speaker 24 with the Dallas Cowboys with better draft compensation.

Speaker 24 And it was the Philadelphia Eagles. They had a lot more on the table, but of course, Jerry Jones did not want to make that deal, obviously trading to the enemy.

Speaker 22 Diane, has Jared Goff done without Ben Johnson, Sean McVay, or Matt LaFleur?

Speaker 24 No, even spending some time in the summer, I heard the Detroit offense was definitely going through a little bit of transition, but they were fast.

Speaker 24 And that John Morton, the new offensive coordinator there, is a veteran. Like he's been around the league forever and there's just a little bit of an adjustment period.

Speaker 24 They definitely took a step back. There's no doubt.
Like the Detroit Lions did not look like the same team that we saw last year with those two coordinators.

Speaker 24 But I'm not panicked about it yet.

Speaker 15 Diana, have you reported exactly how much more the Eagles were willing to offer than the Packers for Parsons?

Speaker 24 I did not report the exact amount, but it was more than the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 19 Wouldn't it have to be like double what the Packers were offering for Jerry to send it to Philly?

Speaker 24 Oh,

Speaker 24 I don't even, I don't know if there's a package that Jerry would have agreed to, like, unless it was like every player on the Philadelphia East.

Speaker 15 But what is that exactly given that the Packers, I know they're not in the division, but the Packers are, while not quite as much of a rival, you still traded it to a team that can beat you.

Speaker 24 Dan, you know how many teams told me that? Like, why would you trade to the NFC? You know, and from what I can gather, too, just from calling around, no one from the AFC really gave a big offer.

Speaker 26 But wait, what are we doing with the division there, Diana?

Speaker 15 Like, the Packers are the team they can't get past in the playoffs. It's not the Eagles.

Speaker 24 The documentary showed it. Like, that's the irony of all this, right? Like, it was in front of our faces.

Speaker 24 Jerry put this show together and you saw how many times the Green Bay Packers stood in the way of the Dallas Cowboys taking that next step. And then they trade their best player.

Speaker 24 And their best player is flourishing. The Greenbee Packers look unstoppable.

Speaker 20 Diana, the other quarterback that played last night, he flashed some impressive pocket movement, but then towards that second half, he was missing high.

Speaker 12 Maybe like Cam Ward, putting a little too much on those passes.

Speaker 22 What was the takeaway from Caleb Williams' performance?

Speaker 24 Yeah, I think this is still growing pains.

Speaker 24 This is like another organization where all you hear is people say, just give them some patience. We all want everyone to come out.
And damn, kind of how we started the segment, right?

Speaker 24 Like everyone expects these young quarterbacks to come out and just stink. And Caleb had some good stuff.
He's better than what he looked like last year.

Speaker 24 So

Speaker 24 I'm all in on the Chicago Bears fixing this.

Speaker 19 Diana, the Bills won or the Ravens choked?

Speaker 24 The Ravens choked.

Speaker 24 That wasn't even, those two weren't even in the same weight class. The Ravens were so much better than the Buffalo Bills, and they just weren't able to come up with it at the end, right?

Speaker 24 Their defense let them down they weren't able to come up with any turnovers and josh allen finds ways to win so to me this is just the ravens trying they got to sort out how they can win these big big games because to me when it's the defense that that's the problem in baltimore

Speaker 15 that that's bad because that's what you think of with this baltimore ravens team you think defense right historically i'm gonna see if i can trap her though here the best team in football uh this weekend was blank the best

Speaker 15 the philadelphia eagles uh if i'd asked you that question with four minutes left in the Bills-Ravens game, what would your answer have been?

Speaker 24 Ooh, probably the Ravens.

Speaker 4 Okay, because they are.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 15 Because the last four minutes of that game are not like, that's not a thing. That's not something.

Speaker 20 It is a thing for them, Dan.

Speaker 12 It's a thing for them way more than it's a thing for anybody else. And you have to start baking that into your analysis because they've shown you at a much higher clip that they do that.

Speaker 12 How often are the Ravens going to keep doing this? They also lose in games that they shouldn't be losing.

Speaker 8 They build leads better than most, so they have more leads.

Speaker 13 Because they're the best team.

Speaker 3 Because they got to win the game.

Speaker 15 Because they're the best team.

Speaker 12 Yeah, they're super loaded.

Speaker 3 Super. The excuses are out.

Speaker 26 There are no more excuses for this team.

Speaker 12 They have to do it, Diana.

Speaker 24 Since 2021, there are nine different times where they had a 90% chance of winning the game and they lost all of them.

Speaker 24 To just support your case there, Mike. Like, they have to figure out how to get over that hump.
What is it, right? Like, is that attitude? Is it effort? Is it, is it leadership, right?

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 24 who's the Ray Lewis on this Baltimore Ravens defense? Who's the guy making sure that these guys are going to finish these games? I don't know that answer. I don't.

Speaker 24 And I think that's something we're to discover this year.

Speaker 20 They should count their lucky stars for what's happening in Buffalo because everyone's just looking at Buffalo.

Speaker 21 Hey, you guys can't get past the Chiefs.

Speaker 12 The narrative here is, what the hell are the Ravens doing? The Ravens are the most offensively loaded team in that entire conference.

Speaker 8 And they're not getting past Buffalo, who can't get past Kansas City.

Speaker 15 Chris, why is it that you're laughing at him thanking lucky stars?

Speaker 12 Count your lucky stars.

Speaker 3 They are.

Speaker 12 The guy's a multiple-time MVP. He's Lamar Jackson skating here.

Speaker 8 He's got to do it the same way Josh Allen's got to do it.

Speaker 15 But why are there lucky stars?

Speaker 12 Patrick Mahomes is making people crazy.

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Speaker 24 Daddy says you're doing a live show on the draft. Wick, is it channel 7?

Speaker 26 Stugats.

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Speaker 15 Patrick Mahomes, since Tyreek Hill left, only one quarterback in the sport averages fewer yards per attempt down the field. It's Daniel Jones.

Speaker 15 Is the Patrick Mahomes down the field thing done with the Chiefs? Like, they're not a team that can win 17 straight one-score games again.

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 24 I'm not as panicked. Look, they're dealing with some issues there on offense, trying to find a rhythm.
But again, this is like another team where they always come out of the gate like this.

Speaker 24 They're the rotten eggs in September, and then they find

Speaker 24 their momentum. So, look, I'm not freaking out yet on the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 17 What are you freaking out about?

Speaker 15 You keep saying you're not freaking out.

Speaker 3 What are you freaking out about?

Speaker 24 Because I'm an adult. The Dolphins.

Speaker 3 The Dolphins. The Dolphins.

Speaker 24 And it's week one, and the Miami Dolphins. Because I'm an adult.

Speaker 24 I told you they were my rotten egg pick for the year a couple weeks ago, and they were exactly what I expected to see, which was horrible.

Speaker 24 And I don't know how this gets better, right? This isn't a team that was bad. And I think that's where a lot of people are forgetting.

Speaker 24 You know, they led the league in completion percentage last year. What happened? This is a high-powered offense.

Speaker 24 Yes, credit to the Colts defense and Lou Anarumo and everything that they did to confuse Tua because he looked confused, but they forced him, you know, for the second read.

Speaker 24 And that appeared to be the key for them. How are they not prepared for that in Miami? How many? And obviously, good.

Speaker 19 Diana, how many teams are worse than the Dolphins right now?

Speaker 9 Faster. Two.

Speaker 24 The Panthers.

Speaker 24 Faster.

Speaker 5 Faster.

Speaker 24 Saints.

Speaker 5 Faster.

Speaker 5 Faster.

Speaker 24 I don't know. Actually, I'm taking that back.

Speaker 24 I'd say it's close. I'd say it's the Dolphins and the Panthers right now.

Speaker 15 The 49ers, more injuries.

Speaker 24 Oh, man, they can't catch a break. Brock Purdy,

Speaker 24 he's dealing with turf toe right now, a shoulder situation. The turf toe is a

Speaker 24 bigger deal. We've seen the past quarterback shoot it up before.
I'm not sure what they're going to do, but there's probably a chance he's going to miss the game.

Speaker 24 George Kittle is going to be out for multiple weeks. He's got a hamstring issue.

Speaker 24 Juwan Jennings is dealing with a shoulder situation, but he's expected to be okay.

Speaker 24 It's just bad vibes again. I mean, mean, every year.

Speaker 22 Chargers, best team in the AC West?

Speaker 15 We ran out of music right when Tony was going to ask his question. It needs the support of the music, otherwise.
I'm going to go fast.

Speaker 6 It was going to rat off like six or seven.

Speaker 15 All right, let's do this.

Speaker 2 Fast, fast, fast.

Speaker 12 Chargers, Diana.

Speaker 24 How much? We've been doing this like very fast. Very fast.

Speaker 2 Faster.

Speaker 24 But here's the funny part. I have to go fast, but you guys go slow.

Speaker 12 All right. Well, speed it up.

Speaker 15 Tony, speed it up.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry. Chargers, best team in the AWS West.

Speaker 12 Yes. Are the Jacks back?

Speaker 24 Yes.

Speaker 3 Yes. Thank you.

Speaker 22 Atlanta, Michael Pennix, interesting.

Speaker 24 Yes, very interesting. Can't wait to see what that's going to be.

Speaker 12 And Meka Buka, superstar?

Speaker 24 Yes.

Speaker 22 Kelsey put a hit on Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 25 No. Okay.

Speaker 3 Fair.

Speaker 22 Are you tired of Kyler Murray?

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 3 He

Speaker 12 has a talk of dice.

Speaker 24 Wait, why are you sick of cutting line?

Speaker 12 I'm so tired of watching him play, by the way. Kelly Opayo.

Speaker 12 He runs around, doesn't know who to throw throw to, never throws the right bats.

Speaker 3 I hate him.

Speaker 5 Never throws a right bat.

Speaker 3 I don't like him.

Speaker 12 Rather have him than to a.

Speaker 24 His stomach hurt before the game, and he was.

Speaker 8 He had diarrhea.

Speaker 3 Stomach hurt.

Speaker 24 Have you ever done anything in your life with diarrhea? It's not fun.

Speaker 24 Have you

Speaker 24 come to work when you have diarrhea?

Speaker 12 I do.

Speaker 24 And how does that go?

Speaker 6 I do great.

Speaker 22 I stand in the pocket and I look exactly where I'm going to throw, and I throw the ball and I deliver it.

Speaker 3 Tony, he has diarrhea right now. Thank you.

Speaker 24 Do you think it's selfish to show up to work with diarrhea? Because I'm sure your colleagues don't like it that you have diarrhea. It's not contagious.

Speaker 3 I mean, he's not pooping.

Speaker 24 It's not contagious, but it's not pleasant to be around someone, especially if you have to use the bathroom after them.

Speaker 22 And Kyler Merstinio.

Speaker 15 I'm sorry to do this, Tony, to you.

Speaker 12 Don't, don't, Dan. Don't do that.

Speaker 20 Yeah, it's really for the Kelsey question.

Speaker 15 I have a penalty I'm trying to hit here that doesn't seem to be working. It's not a good time.
It's good.

Speaker 15 It's the verbal diarrhea penalty. It's not working.

Speaker 3 You told me to go fast.

Speaker 15 I do want you to go fast, but when you say things like that, okay, when you say that one of the most

Speaker 15 MVP, one of the most electric players to watch in the league at quarterback.

Speaker 3 Please, please.

Speaker 23 The jig is up with him, okay?

Speaker 12 He runs around the back of the backfield.

Speaker 12 Where am I going to go?

Speaker 8 Over here, over there.

Speaker 23 Let me run for six yards and put the ball out.

Speaker 17 Please, man, I'm tired of it.

Speaker 20 Do you not have to serve a penalty if the imaging doesn't work?

Speaker 22 No, I don't think so. I don't have to leave.

Speaker 15 I don't know why it's not working.

Speaker 15 Wild Tony Tuesdays.

Speaker 3 Here it is.

Speaker 26 No, we're not doing Wild Tony.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 all right. What's working?

Speaker 22 Diana, let's talk about the Jags again.

Speaker 20 Liam Cohen really changing things over there, huh?

Speaker 24 Yeah. Come on.

Speaker 24 When was the last time you saw the Jags that happy? Like, something as basic as that. Like, just watching them celebrate their touchdowns.

Speaker 24 I just think they have a plan. They know what they want to be.
And

Speaker 24 Liam Cohen's obviously getting more out of Trevor Lawrence than we've seen in the last two, three seasons. So

Speaker 24 stock is up on them.

Speaker 19 Diana, why does Bill Belichick think he's banned from the Patriots facility?

Speaker 24 I think this is all high school. I think

Speaker 24 they obviously have hurt feelings.

Speaker 24 I think the Patriots have had their feelings about Bill. Bill's had his feelings about the Patriots.
But I think what makes this a little

Speaker 24 difficult for Bill is I don't think Bill has any problem with the new regime of people, right? Like he obviously likes his former player, the head coach, and he likes the GM.

Speaker 24 I don't know if he likes the GM, but he's fine with that. And this is like Robert and Jonathan Kraft versus Bill Belichick.

Speaker 24 And so the fact that Bill is not allowing the New New England Patriot scouts to scout UNC,

Speaker 24 I know you can probably make an argument who were they going to scout anyway, but

Speaker 24 look, it's all petty.

Speaker 24 I don't know why.

Speaker 12 Feels high school-y.

Speaker 15 Oh, but

Speaker 15 go the next step on this, though. Excuse me, Diana, for interrupting you yet again.
It's been an affliction I've had this particular segment.

Speaker 15 When I'm watching Woody Johnson with the Jets, and everyone now knows, oh, the kids are running the place. And I'm watching Jerry Jones in Dallas and the kids are running the place.

Speaker 15 When Belichick says, and he never says stuff like this, I'm just glad to be out from under. No, there's no owner here.
There's no owner's son.

Speaker 15 Like, what the hell's going on in your league where the owner's son keeps thinking that the team is his plaything? They work hard.

Speaker 24 Well, first of all, Woody Johnson's kids are 19 and 21, right?

Speaker 24 So that's a, I think that's different when you don't have a lot of life experience and professional experience and you're allowed to weigh in and make decisions for football.

Speaker 24 Like, yeah, that's bizarre.

Speaker 24 Jonathan Kraft is a grown adult.

Speaker 24 I don't, what's wrong with having your son who's part of the ownership group weigh in? I mean,

Speaker 24 what makes Robert Kraft a good owner?

Speaker 24 You know, it's like he's just allowing his son to be part of it. I don't see a problem with that.

Speaker 15 Oh, no, you don't have to, but Belichick clearly has one because it's the first time I've ever heard him say anything interesting about the dynamic when he's talking in North Carolina.

Speaker 15 Let's play some of the sound here for Diana. Let's start with Belichick and what it is that he was alleging about his ban from the Patriots facility.

Speaker 31 Yeah, well, no, it's clear that I'm not welcome there around their facility, and so they're not welcome in ours. Very simple.

Speaker 24 It's not true, though, because he went to Tom Brady's Hall of Fame event, and no one there has ever said, like someone from Belichick's camp said to me that

Speaker 24 a Patriots staffer was wearing a UNC t-shirt in the weight room, and somebody from the Patriots said you can't wear North Carolina gear.

Speaker 24 Like they're just caught up in this petty stuff, which is not true because Drake May went to North Carolina and he wears the gear. Like there's no,

Speaker 24 the drama is being built up by Belichick, I think, at this point. And look, it's obvious that it's almost like he needs them more than the Patriots need Bill at this point.

Speaker 32 And you know, because that Vrabel kind of spoke to this and he kind of just seems just over it.

Speaker 24 He kind of like rolling his eyes and he's rolling his eyes because this team is not good, right? Like Mike Vrabel doesn't care about Bill Belichick right now.

Speaker 24 He cares about trying to put out a team that looks improved because they didn't on Sunday. It didn't look any different than it did with Geron Mayo.

Speaker 24 And there was so much hype about this Patriots team being good. And it just didn't look that great, especially in the second half.

Speaker 24 So, you know, just knowing. him well, I don't think he has patience or time for any of this.
And I don't think the New England England Patriots even really care as an organization at this point.

Speaker 19 From the Belichick side, I just don't understand how this is okay.

Speaker 19 And I know Diana said, obviously, what anyone could say, which is, well, why would anyone want to scout UNC players at this point?

Speaker 19 But the reality of it is, for kids who want to go pro on UNC, there's only 32 of those jobs in the world. And he's deciding to check one of them, one of those boxes off.

Speaker 19 We're not going to allow these kids to have an opportunity with one of those 32 teams. That's bullshit to me.

Speaker 15 Well, let's hear Vrabel talking about what bullshit it is that Belichick's not allowed at the facility.

Speaker 10 Again, nothing surprises me. I would imagine that Bill, I mean, he came back for, the best of my knowledge, Tom's ceremony, so that I would have been.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I guess he's welcomed back based on the fact that he was there. So I'll just go by that.
Since his departure as the head coach here, he's been back, and I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 20 How much does Mike Vrabel hate this?

Speaker 2 He's like, my evidence is that he was there.

Speaker 8 Yeah. He hates them.

Speaker 3 I rest my case. Yeah.

Speaker 20 He doesn't want to deal with these questions.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I don't think it's, I don't think he doesn't. He obviously wants his scouts to be able to go to the places that he probably wants them to be.

Speaker 24 But I just think when you're the new head coach, returning to a place where you had so much success and there's all this pressure for you to turn a team around and then you lay an egg against the Raiders.

Speaker 24 Yeah, imagine coming in Monday morning and that's what they want to talk to you about. Probably not fun.

Speaker 15 Diana, it is nice seeing you. I remind everybody, she's got a hip podcast, Scoop City, and she is the senior NFL insider for the Athletic.
Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 15 Always nice to see you. We will talk to you again next week.

Speaker 15 The thing that I wanted to say, though, about what Vrabel did there, because I mean, you were in Tennessee, you mixed and matched, and you showed us you're a good coach by that one time that you out-clocked Belichick at the end of a game, and we saw you like waste six minutes on Belichick.

Speaker 15 And Vrabel is, you know,

Speaker 15 that's a bad loss that got swallowed under all the other games this weekend. The Patriots losing at home to a Raiders offense that's going to be improved.

Speaker 15 But Vrabel staring straight ahead, dead-eyed with the choices he's made at life, hoping that Drake May works out and just saying straight to your face. Nothing surprises me.

Speaker 15 That's exactly what you want your coach to say. You want him to look you in the face and lie to you and just say, there will be no surprises.

Speaker 17 I'm incapable of being surprised.

Speaker 15 It does not surprise me that Bill Belichick, who used to be my coach and leader, is dating a 20-year-old who's running his life, evidently. I'm not surprised because

Speaker 15 look, he's bored.

Speaker 4 Look how bored.

Speaker 10 Argued, nothing surprised me.

Speaker 15 Again, not that you guys know this about me. I'm incapable of being surprised.

Speaker 15 Not surprised that I lost 20 to 10 in my home opener. Not surprised.

Speaker 15 Nothing surprises me. Nothing.

Speaker 20 Walked into my own birthday party.

Speaker 10 Nothing surprises me.