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Speaker 4 Chris, there are too many people here today and too many ailments here today. We've got a limping Greg Cody who's fiddling with the microphone already.
A limp Ian.

Speaker 4 A limping Greg Cody who's Billy, you can't applaud that.

Speaker 5 It's a good joke. Thank you.

Speaker 19 Because he's limping.

Speaker 3 A limp Ian.

Speaker 17 Thank you, Billy.

Speaker 20 That's my man right there.

Speaker 19 You get it? Yeah.

Speaker 5 I don't think he got that. You don't get it.

Speaker 20 He needs an explainer.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 18 this guy.

Speaker 4 I want to ask why you're limping, but I got Zaz has just bombed in from Europe because he hasn't talked sports in 10 days.

Speaker 4 He's dying to talk Panthers. He's dying to talk dolphins.
He fired Mike McDaniel three times

Speaker 4 from where? From Europe? From which part of Europe?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm walking the streets of Paris. And you know about that, Mike McDaniel? Like, oh, my God, I fire him, right? Didn't get much response.

Speaker 4 That's been your take for four days from across the seas. Got to fire him.
And look, even Tony's disgusted by how common you're...

Speaker 4 They don't care over there.

Speaker 14 You're wasting great takes on people that don't give a shit about you.

Speaker 1 I don't understand. They only do soccer there.

Speaker 3 Boring. What do do they do?

Speaker 19 What, that's it?

Speaker 1 They just. Nobody works there either.

Speaker 18 Nobody works there. They always walk around the streets.
Go work. Go do something.
They do hoops.

Speaker 19 But what? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not the NBA.

Speaker 22 They have like arguably the best player in the league.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 so you think they're staying up until like 1 a.m. to watch NBA games? It was very difficult for me adjusting to the time.

Speaker 1 You know about time zones, right, Dan? You know how that works? It was really difficult adjusting. Every game I wanted to watch starts at 1 a.m.
I'm tired by the end of the day, Dan. Lots of walking.

Speaker 5 Why are we sending all these football games over there if they don't care about them?

Speaker 1 Great question, Billy. Why are we playing our football games over there? What? I'll never know.

Speaker 4 He's an expert now in Europe because he's been there one time. We've got

Speaker 4 Chris Cody. I don't know.
Are you a caddy today?

Speaker 19 What are you?

Speaker 21 What up, Lebitz?

Speaker 3 What up, dope? What?

Speaker 23 What is that? I'm a frat guy. What? I'm giving everybody nicknames.

Speaker 24 What up?

Speaker 20 R.B.

Speaker 25 Wait, is this a punishment? Coates, Jay-Z over here. What's good, guys? What's What's going on?

Speaker 26 Wait, are you dressed as a punishment? I know we're Shadow Show, so we're painting a picture here, but...

Speaker 24 I'm a frat boy.

Speaker 24 Everyone thinks I'm going to play golf, but I'm a frat boy.

Speaker 19 Wait, this is a punishment?

Speaker 7 The nicknames.

Speaker 4 You look like you always dress.

Speaker 21 Yeah, well.

Speaker 4 You look like you on the golf course. This is what I imagine that you look like if you're.
This is you dressed up for Doral.

Speaker 24 Classic Lebits.

Speaker 26 So your punishment is just to

Speaker 2 use frat boy lingo?

Speaker 27 Ruiz, Ruizy.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 1 Sounds like these punishments to bother people.

Speaker 20 I'm curious what fraternity you're in.

Speaker 7 GC.

Speaker 9 I haven't decided yet.

Speaker 18 Still applying.

Speaker 10 Roy.

Speaker 4 Roy has the worst punishment I've heard.

Speaker 28 Yes, I am doing Greg watch.

Speaker 5 I'm supposed to make sure that he is working at an optimal level.

Speaker 28 As you just heard, he was coughing, so I will be getting up and getting him water in a second.

Speaker 10 If he's too far away from the mic, I will adjust it for him.

Speaker 19 This is what UD is doing.

Speaker 18 What are these punishments?

Speaker 2 UD overseas.

Speaker 20 That's a terrible

Speaker 27 party settled with.

Speaker 4 No, Roy chose this. He's got to dote on Greg Cody all show.

Speaker 18 I don't like that.

Speaker 20 That looks like a personal assistant I've been dreaming about.

Speaker 4 You said you wanted a staff.

Speaker 4 Now, Roy's punishment is he's agreed to be your staff.

Speaker 20 He had a one-man staff.

Speaker 19 No, he wanted a walking stick.

Speaker 3 Hey, fellas,

Speaker 24 if we don't like the optics to this, me and Roy can switch.

Speaker 17 What?

Speaker 9 I mean, I could just tell by there's some optics that

Speaker 18 there is.

Speaker 18 There is.

Speaker 19 It was brought up during the meeting. What's the problem?

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Speaker 4 Billy, I hate to ask you this way in front of everybody, but I need your help today. There's too much going on, and I cannot also have it be Wild Billy Wednesday.
I need your genuine help.

Speaker 4 I'm here, man. No, we've got Greg limping.
We've got Olympian.

Speaker 4 We've got Roy signing up for a punishment he should not have signed up for that now has to dote on Greg Cody. We've got Chris Cody with the easiest punishment there's been a DLB.

Speaker 10 Because he's a frack guy.

Speaker 4 We've got Zaz in from Europe dying to talk about the Panthers and the Panthers. Hey, everyone.

Speaker 4 The Panthers got me watching shorthanded goals in Philadelphia to see if they're going to go 82-0 with their two guys down because hockey has infected this market.

Speaker 4 I don't like the way any of this looks. Yes.

Speaker 21 Yes, what?

Speaker 1 Yes, Panther Hockey is back. Tonight's the opener.
I get to sit and watch the game tonight. I haven't seen a single game.
This is the opening game of the season tonight for me.

Speaker 4 You haven't watched in Europe? Why didn't you follow? Are you taking the regular season for granted?

Speaker 19 I followed.

Speaker 1 Believe me, Dan, it was the first thing I did when I woke up every morning in that godforsaken country over there in Europe, right?

Speaker 1 What can I see over there that I can't see in Cooper City? Now, I checked my phone immediately upon waking up, but I miss the Panthers. I'm very excited to be able to sit and watch them uninterrupted.

Speaker 1 And you know what? We'll probably make the Zazzler Mansion family room tonight, Dan, a serious room. You know how I do in the playoffs.
Playoffs are serious room.

Speaker 1 First game of the season, tonight, serious room.

Speaker 5 I don't understand.

Speaker 5 The first game started like a five. You could have watched that one.

Speaker 1 Well, so it was 10 p.m. for me.

Speaker 20 Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 18 So late. Well, yeah, I was really tired.

Speaker 1 I was really tired.

Speaker 30 You know, are you a Panthers fan or not a Panthers?

Speaker 5 You know how flying works?

Speaker 18 Yeah. You know how flying works.

Speaker 5 You were flying. You were in a plane.
You were sitting.

Speaker 1 You didn't have to do anything. Yeah, and sometimes there's this thing called jet lag, where then I have to wait the entire day to go to sleep.
I have to fight. I have to power through that.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't know, okay? Because first you get the money, then you get the power. And that's where I am right now.

Speaker 7 I got the money.

Speaker 1 Now I'm getting the power. And with the money, you travel.
And that's why I was in Europe. You'll learn one day.
Maybe. I don't know.
I can't predict the future.

Speaker 5 What do you do with the power?

Speaker 4 You get the respect.

Speaker 20 Yeah, you buy it.

Speaker 10 However, you got to do it now.

Speaker 18 That is the order that it has. However, you got to do it.

Speaker 4 That's brought to you by Scarface and Zaz, who's not even suffering a punishment. This is just his style now from Europe.

Speaker 32 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm wearing a beret from Paris.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm not going to do this.

Speaker 19 You're wearing a beret.

Speaker 5 A beret.

Speaker 4 And so, Billy, I've got

Speaker 4 Chris has the stinky punishment. Roy has an offensive punishment.
Tony's got a lot of opinions on a lot of different things.

Speaker 5 This is our punishment.

Speaker 4 And Jeremy badly wants to get on the show. He's not even working today, but baseball is crazy.
He wants to talk baseball.

Speaker 4 And we secured, or everyone secured, some rights through John Tesh yesterday to music we want to have. And now we can finally have music

Speaker 4 on the program that is good. Like, Jeremy wants to make music for our show inside of the show based on music that we have.

Speaker 4 Can you guys explain to me what he's trying to do from the other room in the bullpen? Because he's not even supposed to be working today.

Speaker 9 I mean, he just showed up here to your point and said baseball, music, and baseball. And I said, get out.

Speaker 11 And then that's, and now he's in the other room, and I don't know what the hell he's going to do.

Speaker 4 Mike is ready to talk that the Mariners are America's team because the Dodgers are, they've got the best players from Japan and the best payroll and all the best hitters and all the best pitchers.

Speaker 4 And surprised, they're built for the postseason and they're running everybody down. Mike's a Mariners fan today.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I've been waiting for this moment all my life here. You go up 3-0 in the ALCS.

Speaker 17 I mean, all the years of torment following this team.

Speaker 26 But Dan, you mentioned that the Mariners are America's team.

Speaker 25 That's a given.

Speaker 26 Going into a World Series potentially against the Dodgers, America gravitates to the underdog in these situations. It's much bigger than that.
Let's not be so myopic.

Speaker 22 They are Asia's team.

Speaker 25 Even though the biggest Japanese superstar in the history of the game, arguably, is playing for the Dodgers. This Mariners franchise is Japan's team because of Ichiro.

Speaker 19 This is super close to Japan, geographically speaking.

Speaker 25 This is bigger than America. This is about Asia.

Speaker 4 It's the real World Series now, is what you're saying.

Speaker 10 That's That's why they call it the World Series.

Speaker 22 Ziggak.

Speaker 5 They're only up 2-0 at the moment, but I know it's a good idea.

Speaker 10 Potentially.

Speaker 18 Potentially.

Speaker 26 Why is George Kirby's over-under on strikeouts just four and a half?

Speaker 30 It was seven and a half last time.

Speaker 34 It's always tricky.

Speaker 26 He got like six strikeouts one time, only throwing 66 pitchers.

Speaker 33 Guys, I know an ace when I see one, Jack.

Speaker 4 Well, when you say you know an ace when you see one, the part that the Dodgers have that's unfair is that Glasnow goes for them tonight, and they've got another ace. They've got three aces.

Speaker 4 Nobody gets three number ones. They've got three number ones, maybe four.
And oh, maybe Otani doesn't need to pitch.

Speaker 26 Otani's pitching game four, they announced.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying that this team is the most overwhelming, expensive roster there's ever been. They've got all the star players and all the ways to beat you.

Speaker 3 I heard something.

Speaker 15 Roy, can you help Greg?

Speaker 19 You're on Greg Watch and his computer just made a noise.

Speaker 18 You're already failing.

Speaker 5 I don't think that was Greg.

Speaker 20 No, because I'm looking at my volume right now.

Speaker 3 It is zero. Yep, not Greg.

Speaker 10 He's on bells.

Speaker 35 What about the phone?

Speaker 18 I don't know, but You're on Greg Watch.

Speaker 24 Hang on. GC, it was definitely your phone.

Speaker 10 It was my phone.

Speaker 5 Why does Greg have three cups of coffee around him? It seems like a lot.

Speaker 20 I earned it, Billy.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 3 Got what I earn.

Speaker 20 Exactly.

Speaker 5 I was talking to Greg before the show, Dan, and he gave me a life hack that I feel like he should impart with everyone that was a great life hack.

Speaker 20 I hate to give this away for free, but I'm going to.

Speaker 31 Okay.

Speaker 24 Can you save it for your podcast, GC?

Speaker 25 You know what? I should.

Speaker 5 No, no, just see.

Speaker 18 We're here.

Speaker 20 I got a million life hacks. I'll give you one right now.
Who uses a K-cup here? Who makes coffee with a K-cup?

Speaker 18 This guy.

Speaker 21 Okay, admit it.

Speaker 5 We were talking before because I was using the Nespresso machine, putting in a pod, and Greg, I was telling him, like, you don't strike me as an espresso.

Speaker 18 Who's a K-cup?

Speaker 10 Well, I'm just, hold on a second.

Speaker 19 We're getting there.

Speaker 5 I was just saying, it seems like Greg is a guy that's just like the classic drip coffee, and then he imparted some wisdom on me.

Speaker 20 Right, I'm a man's man.

Speaker 20 Men's men drink real coffee.

Speaker 20 So, the life hack.

Speaker 4 I don't know what that means.

Speaker 20 The life hacks.

Speaker 29 You wouldn't. Nor you want to.
No, you wouldn't. That's right.

Speaker 3 No. Sissy.

Speaker 20 The life hack is that you can use a K-cup more than once, okay? You don't just fill up your cup and then throw away the K-cup.

Speaker 24 I'm pretty sure they're one serving cases.

Speaker 1 You definitely do that.

Speaker 10 That is historically no.

Speaker 29 No, no.

Speaker 19 That is new levels of cheapness.

Speaker 2 That's a white team over there.

Speaker 5 There's some barons in this room, it seems, that are wasteful with their coffee.

Speaker 20 If you use the second, and if you pour it in a glass cup, you see what I mean. Naturally, the first use of the K-cup is the stronger one.

Speaker 20 But if you don't mind a mild coffee, you get double the pleasure out of it out of a K-cup.

Speaker 18 It's amazing.

Speaker 18 That's trash.

Speaker 21 That's trash, dog.

Speaker 3 That is bad.

Speaker 34 Everything okay at home, Greg? You need money here?

Speaker 20 Right now, the K-cup industry is

Speaker 18 a gas recession. Recession indicator right here.

Speaker 4 The Cody's are trashy. Come on.

Speaker 18 We are.

Speaker 20 My dad saved soap scraps.

Speaker 18 Wild Bill?

Speaker 20 Yeah, he did.

Speaker 5 Individually, or would he put it together to make a super soap?

Speaker 20 Well, you can melt it and shape it, but

Speaker 20 you'd go into my dad's bathroom growing up and there would be like 10 or 12 little scraps, little shards of soap that had been ground down

Speaker 20 into

Speaker 20 pumice. Lava, we were a big lava family.

Speaker 24 Is that so?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 20 Your hands are dirty. Like they're in mud.

Speaker 17 They're dirty.

Speaker 20 And you use lava soap?

Speaker 26 They always use a construction worker's hands.

Speaker 10 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 20 As well they should.

Speaker 5 I hate that part, Greg, of the hotel industry, where before you would go, you get the individual bars of soap and you get the little shampoos and conditioners.

Speaker 5 And honestly, you were a fool if you would leave those behind. Those are just going to get discarded as it is.
So you take those home for a rainy day and then you have the soaps.

Speaker 5 You can make the super soap out of them. Yes.
No longer. Now they have fixed the soaps and the conditioners.

Speaker 19 So I don't like that. As though you're in prison.

Speaker 10 I don't like that. Me neither.

Speaker 14 I kind of like that.

Speaker 19 What? Yeah.

Speaker 18 I never fly. You can't do it as much as I want.
I can bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

Speaker 18 No, but it's hard because they put it where I dispense the soap in my hand, and then I gotta, like, it's a maze where I gotta then move my hands around where the water's coming out you know plus that first pushdown it shoots out of it I'm not trying to do gymnastics in the shower yeah and what if the person that had the room before me washed their butt right before they wash their hair and they have butt hand on the shampoo there it is thank you you never think about that you know about that butt hand there it is never thought about butthand Gailey okay there it is Greg I didn't want to ask a question lava the soap is that like what did that mean because lava in Spanish is clean yeah well that makes sense then lava soap had grit in it no but lava's like a command lava's like a command in spanish like like like lava limpia wow

Speaker 26 i bet you they didn't even know that

Speaker 4 cuban guy did the soap or not wait a minute they were they were culturally appropriating the soap back in the 70s your original your dad's soap was lava which is the cuban expression for wash yourself you're disgusting they had no idea you can tell by the marketing because there's a volcano on it but i mean it's genius it should be the official soap of cubanos everywhere

Speaker 4 that's what gives it the grid pumice no cuban soap's better soap and we were telling american hey clean yourselves

Speaker 18 lava cueco

Speaker 4 si imbeguenza

Speaker 9 levitz according to according to google ai the most popular mlb team in asia is likely the los angeles dodgers

Speaker 26 you can't trust ai no you really can't although they are allowing porn soon sweet Wow. Yeah, Sam Altman came out.
Sick.

Speaker 4 What are we doing with Jeremy, please, Mike? I need some help because the show.

Speaker 19 I can't answer that question.

Speaker 4 So Jeremy's in the bullpen, and I don't know the music bit he wants to do, but he wants to pollute the show with his music. And Tony, can someone explain to me? He's not supposed to be working today.

Speaker 14 We just had such a good night of hardball. Dan Dodgers are on a roll right now.
By the way, his ass is grass when my Dodgers meet the Mariners in the World Series, by the way.

Speaker 18 This is grass, buddy.

Speaker 14 But I think Jeremy wants to talk hardball. And I think he's, we should, because there's been great baseball on.

Speaker 34 I'm locked in, as you can tell, Yamamoto last night.

Speaker 18 He doesn't want real.

Speaker 4 He doesn't want to do baseball, though.

Speaker 21 Yamamoto, he was.

Speaker 4 He's better than Snell.

Speaker 4 First complete game in eight years. But Billy, I don't know what to do with Jeremy's desire to play music, specifically the Monday night football music that Tesh gave us.

Speaker 5 Well, okay, I think that this is, well, that's sort of what happened.

Speaker 5 I think what's going on here is Jeremy came in excited. He wasn't supposed to be here.
And then the solution someone came up with was, okay, go sit in the bullpen.

Speaker 5 And when we need you, we'll call you while we are actually trying to figure out what are we supposed to do with this man today who just wants to come in and sing songs and talk about baseball.

Speaker 3 We're like, music.

Speaker 7 Yeah, dude.

Speaker 5 None of us were planning for that. So we're like, yeah, just go to the bullpen.
And when we need you, just be ready. We'll call you.
You'll come in and we'll get you.

Speaker 5 But I don't know that there is actually a plan. I don't think you can.

Speaker 5 hear us hopefully i don't think there's actually a plan switch is here to sing songs that's what he wants and we are like we don't know what to do with him.

Speaker 5 So just go sit in that room for a little bit and we'll get you and you're a good boy.

Speaker 11 I was like, JT, hit me with a seventh inning stretch remix.

Speaker 17 Wow.

Speaker 20 I like that. It has to be on an organ, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 We talked about that to Tess yesterday. I don't know if you heard that.

Speaker 5 I broke the news to him that organists were going away. I don't know if that's true, though.

Speaker 24 I looked it up. The Yankees have two.

Speaker 5 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 They have a weekend organist. And a weekday one.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 No, the weekday one, I'm telling you, is a recording. Marlos got rid of their organists years ago.
Tabby B. She would come on Tabby B and she would play this take me out to the ball game.

Speaker 5 And if we're going to be honest, you know, all respect to Tabby B and her service. I'm getting choked up here.
The service that she performed for the Marlins over the years.

Speaker 5 But Tabby B, a little fast on the seventh inning stretch. And then other times, a little slow.
It was very hard to keep up with Tabby B's pace.

Speaker 5 It seemed almost like she was playing games with the audience there. Yeah.
Not good.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

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Speaker 3 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 1 John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's Way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good.

Speaker 20 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 21 Stugats.

Speaker 1 You think you're big time?

Speaker 1 Or you're gonna die

Speaker 18 Big time!

Speaker 37 That is

Speaker 37 on my infamous scale of one to 10.

Speaker 37 That's a 7.6.

Speaker 10 Solid. Good job.

Speaker 18 That's a SUI nominee right there. Good.

Speaker 38 This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Speaker 5 The organists have been going away. They have to take their organs with them to the game every day, which is probably part of it.

Speaker 20 You know, wild thing?

Speaker 19 That can't be so. You know, Dick Jans? Have you ever seen an organ before?

Speaker 4 The organ needs to be. There's no way they can't.

Speaker 5 You guys know about Dick Jans? No. Dick Janz used to be the other Marlin organist before Tabby B took over.
You know that fool. Yeah, Crazy Fingers or whatever his name was.
Dick Jans. He retired.

Speaker 5 Dick Janz.

Speaker 10 Is that so? Yeah, no thing.

Speaker 9 BG, on Tabby B's Twitter, she still has Marlin's Park organist.

Speaker 5 Yeah, when's the last time she tweeted?

Speaker 12 Yeah. You know what? We're going to.

Speaker 24 Hopefully she's still with us.

Speaker 7 It was a long time ago.

Speaker 5 Thoughts and prayers for the B family. Something happened tragically, aside from just no more organing, you know? Is that what you do? Organ?

Speaker 4 Such a shitty joke, Uncle Dick.

Speaker 19 Uncle Dick Jance.

Speaker 20 I need an Ottoman.

Speaker 10 Really? Yeah, top of the.

Speaker 10 Sounds like you're up, Roy, to raise my hands.

Speaker 4 No, this can't be how we do this.

Speaker 32 Oh, no, I need an Ottoman to raise my body.

Speaker 4 This can't be Roy jumps up.

Speaker 3 That's what he's here for. No, it's a problem.

Speaker 4 It can't be Roy jumps up every time. Wait a minute.
The punishment is that Roy has to do whatever greg says i need an ottoman he just helps them

Speaker 5 yeah classic bells we can switch if you'd like he chose it he did choose this he had dozens to choose but you get the frat boy and he gets this chose it we have a list of punishments but your frat boy stinks it's just relaxed dlb they would dick janz if i remember correctly i think he retired because he like lived in orlando or something would drive down for the game and drive back like i'm pretty sure he was not a local and he had a long commute so let's let's now talk about this so that we can.

Speaker 4 Billy has secret insider information on the dying organist trade at Marlins Park. As baseball is celebrated throughout the globe and the Marlins get left out because they've got...

Speaker 4 What's the history of their organists?

Speaker 5 They had Dick Jans. I'm trying to find him.
He had a good nickname, but I don't remember what it was. He had Dick Jans, and then Tabby B was there for a little bit.

Speaker 5 But then Tabby B, but Tabby Boo's no longer there now. And may or may not still be with us based on her Twitter use history.

Speaker 5 It's not that interesting.

Speaker 3 I'll admit that.

Speaker 4 The Panthers have more tradition already than

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 4 local baseball team that has won two titles. Also, two titles.

Speaker 1 Dan, I'm so excited for tonight. I can't wait.
I'm going to be on my couch at least a good 30 minutes prior to puck drop, just getting the mind right.

Speaker 5 You're not a fan. You haven't watched the game this season.

Speaker 1 When the season opener is here, you got to make sure you have your mind right. And that's why I'm going to be in the proper seat on the couch.

Speaker 1 I'm going to declare this Aslo Mansion family room a serious room. I am so, I'll probably have a beer in hand.
I am so excited for this game tonight.

Speaker 19 Panther Hockey's back, baby.

Speaker 12 Jay-Z, what's the difference between when it's a serious room and when it's a normal room?

Speaker 1 The stakes. You know, obviously, when there's a playoff game, it's always a serious room.
If we're playing those pieces of garbage called the Tampa Bay Lightning, that's a serious room.

Speaker 1 Don't even give me starter on the Lightning. Oh my God, what? That's a dirtbag franchise.

Speaker 4 Wait a minute. Have you had these takes in Europe since that last fight of the season?

Speaker 4 Have you not had a place to give your opinions on? Wait, you were in Europe when the Panthers started the season in the preseason by getting into a huge fight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that game was a Saturday night, and obviously, like, I left for Europe on the Monday, but I wasn't here, you know, was the week.

Speaker 4 So the start of your two-time defending champions, defending their title with a fight against the lightning, and then they went three straight at home, and now you come home to I missed all this?

Speaker 1 Yep, missed it. Missed.
I mean, I checked my phone the first thing the next morning. I was very excited.
I would announce to my boys while they were still in bed, Panthers won last night, guys.

Speaker 1 That's how I woke them.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't want to be woken up with your father telling you the Panthers won last night. What a gift I give them.

Speaker 5 What time was it? What a gift. What time? For me, locally?

Speaker 5 When you woke them up and gave them the gift?

Speaker 1 Oh, like 8 a.m. Yeah, maybe 7.

Speaker 5 That's early enough. You kids waking up.

Speaker 10 What time did they wake up?

Speaker 18 Oh, we were on vacation.

Speaker 10 Yeah, what are they doing? Drugs?

Speaker 5 Sleep until past 8 o'clock?

Speaker 10 What's wrong with them?

Speaker 1 We did a lot of walking, you know? We did a lot of touring these days, all right?

Speaker 14 Guys, this guy doesn't get it. He's never been to Europe.

Speaker 10 He doesn't understand. He doesn't have the power.
I've been to Europe.

Speaker 18 Nah. He doesn't have the power.

Speaker 3 I've been to Valencia. Barely.

Speaker 5 Boring city, if we're going to be honest, I don't know about it. 10 days in Valencia.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 Billy hates Europe.

Speaker 18 Falsehood.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'll be honest. I don't know what I saw there that I can't see in Cooper City.

Speaker 3 He's not wrong about that.

Speaker 18 It's a sweet award winner.

Speaker 5 Old stuff here, old stuff there. No air conditioning.
No one wears deodorant. Great, wonderful.

Speaker 10 I love this.

Speaker 1 Why don't you clean your stuff a little bit, you know?

Speaker 20 So, Zaz, let me ask you this. Where in Cooper City is the Arc de Triomphe located?

Speaker 1 Okay, you're saying words that I don't understand, so I'm trying not to take it as disrespect.

Speaker 18 Arc? Arc?

Speaker 21 Arc de what?

Speaker 20 Arc de Triomphe.

Speaker 1 You know what? I think you're making that up, if we're being honest.

Speaker 20 It's an Arc.

Speaker 20 Our boutique hotel overlooked the Arc de Triomphe. We were walking distance for the Champs de Célé.

Speaker 20 It's a beautiful Arc.

Speaker 4 I don't think you're pronouncing that correctly.

Speaker 20 Whatever it is. You know, I'm not French.
Yeah. Although my ancestors were.

Speaker 10 Is that so? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20 French-Canadian and French.

Speaker 4 Isn't that where the Tour de France ends every year?

Speaker 20 The Arc de Triomphe, I believe it does.

Speaker 7 GC, did your wife tell you how much that hotel costs?

Speaker 9 Because she famously tells you, like, it costs a quarter of what it costs.

Speaker 20 I assume that I always jack it up and the price, too. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 Based on what she tells you. GC.

Speaker 20 Based on what she tells me. She always lowballs it.
You know, because I know she thinks I'm cheap.

Speaker 32 You know about those things.

Speaker 21 So if the hotel room is...

Speaker 11 She still talks to you in like 90s prices.

Speaker 7 Right.

Speaker 16 She thinks you're cheap.

Speaker 18 You used cake cups twice. Of course she does.

Speaker 5 That's because that's a scam and everybody knows it. Thank you, Greg.

Speaker 10 Thank you, Billy.

Speaker 4 I've been saying that Greg Cody is one of the cheapest people in the history of the world forever. Yes, his parents had no reason to save soap scraps.

Speaker 20 Well, my dad grew up in the Depression.

Speaker 5 That's true.

Speaker 20 Which may or may not be true. I got to do the math on that.

Speaker 1 I had to lie to my wife yesterday about the price of something when we were coming back from Europe. You know, like I,

Speaker 1 we were going to take the subway to the airport because it's really expensive, you know, to take the Uber. And I checked the price of the Uber, you know, and it was like 40 bucks.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, that's awesome. Forget about taking the Metro.
Let's just take, we could take the Uber. It's totally fine, all right?

Speaker 1 And then when the Uber was coming, I saw that it was really $120, so it was three times the price. And she was like, hey, so we made a good deal.
Where I'm like, yeah, yeah, we got a good deal.

Speaker 1 We got a good deal. The problem was I put in the wrong airport the first time.

Speaker 1 And then when I put in the wrong, I was too embarrassed, Dan, to tell her that I made the the mistake, which has now cost us triple the amount of money, and it was too late to change that up.

Speaker 1 So, like, hey, we got the good price.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, we got a good price. We got a good price.

Speaker 34 What do you know about Charles de Gaulle, buddy?

Speaker 1 I mean, I know the airport's named after him, but I don't know that fool.

Speaker 20 He's a beloved figure in France.

Speaker 18 I mean, I don't belove him.

Speaker 20 Former prime minister.

Speaker 19 Big ears.

Speaker 20 He had the Cody ears de Gaulle did. Big ears.
That's the only thing I remember about him because he died when I was a kid.

Speaker 18 So now.

Speaker 26 I can't believe the K-Cup thing, man.

Speaker 22 Honestly, that is is wild.

Speaker 4 This is a famously cheap family. Greg, please tell us a story from another time about how the Cody's grew up being cheap.

Speaker 20 Well, I don't consider myself cheap, but what Christopher said is true, that if my wife tells me the hotel room costs $400, I assume it costs $600,

Speaker 20 you know, that kind of thing.

Speaker 20 And my dad, you know, cheap...

Speaker 1 Why can't she tell you the real price? Like, are you going to get mad?

Speaker 20 I would be like, what?

Speaker 20 Why are we spending that much on a hotel? You know, we stated at the new Pier 66 the other week.

Speaker 20 It was more expensive than the

Speaker 20 thing right up the road that's the Ritz-Carlton. Yeah.
You know, so it's a, you got to be careful when you rent a room, I tell you.

Speaker 10 And you got to remember, Wilde Bill grew up in the Depression.

Speaker 5 He did. So like, if Wild Bill heard these prices, like, that's a year, that's a mortgage for a year.
Right.

Speaker 20 Back then, you weren't cheap if you saved soap scraps. That's what everyone did.

Speaker 5 But the K-cup thing.

Speaker 19 The K-cup thing is brilliant. Yes.

Speaker 20 Also trashy.

Speaker 27 Why?

Speaker 18 K-Cup, K-cup.

Speaker 18 K-cup, K-cup.

Speaker 18 Drinking your coffee.

Speaker 18 Drink it with Cody.

Speaker 18 So that's what's Jeremy doing.

Speaker 20 That's great.

Speaker 1 That's good use of his time. Can I ask you something about the K-cups? You use it for the first time.
Where do do you keep them until you then use it again?

Speaker 20 I use it immediately. Like, once the grounds inside have become cold, they are disqualified.

Speaker 20 Then you throw it out. But if you use it immediately, like

Speaker 20 I would pour this cup, right, with the first use of the K-cup. And then I'd get another cup, and I would

Speaker 20 lift the handle again, lower the handle in the same K-cup. You get the light on again that asks you what button to press.
You press the large button. And what happens is you get a free cup of coffee.

Speaker 20 Now it's not quite as strong as the original, but it's perfectly drinkable. So what do you do?

Speaker 20 Put it in a little less sweetener, a little less cream, you get the hue correctly, you balance the hue, and you have screwed

Speaker 20 the coffee industry.

Speaker 4 Can I be honest with you?

Speaker 19 I think I'm going to.

Speaker 19 Who wouldn't? Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 5 I think I'm going to try it to not try it.

Speaker 4 I think I'm going to try it.

Speaker 18 You're going to try it.

Speaker 4 Is it cheap? Is it efficient? Is it something that he's just making two different kinds of coffee? He's getting a two-for-one. It's not being cheap, it's just being smart.

Speaker 1 I think he's personal. I think I'm gonna try it.

Speaker 25 What is happening?

Speaker 31 That's the life hack of the week.

Speaker 31 Drinking your coffee.

Speaker 18 Drink it with Cody.

Speaker 21 Great jingle.

Speaker 4 I think, Roy, you should bring bring him some more cups of coffee.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying, he's only got three of them there. And we want Cody's doing such good work on behalf of coffee and how you should drink more of it that we should get him some more coffee.

Speaker 4 Why do you have three cups of coffee already in front of you?

Speaker 20 No, these are waters to soothe my throat.

Speaker 23 And yet you still sound raspy.

Speaker 20 Well, that's, you know, a lot of people think that's sexy.

Speaker 4 What's happening with your knee? People worry about you. You're over 70.

Speaker 4 You missed talking dolphin football. I know Zaz wants to talk dolphin football.

Speaker 20 What a team. Well, I was in here two days ago, so I did talk dolphin football.

Speaker 4 No, but the Tua thing happened after that and engulfed the team in flames. The McDaniel reacting to Tua, and now it's that dumb conversation.

Speaker 4 Now it's instead of talking about the Jets, the Dolphins get an extra week of everyone's laughing at them because there's only one now that they fired Callahan where you're like, oh, they don't know what they're doing at all.

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Speaker 3 don lebatard all right we got to go back out there that was big

Speaker 4 wake him up uh-oh he doesn't want he doesn't want to be bothered anymore now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result he needs something that happens

Speaker 18 yeah you can see him motherfucking

Speaker 29 Are we bothering you right now?

Speaker 4 Turn on your microphone, girl.

Speaker 21 My microphone's on. Stugats.

Speaker 7 Paint the scene.

Speaker 29 Paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night.

Speaker 38 This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Speaker 1 Among the most embarrassing things going on with the Dolphins now, it's not just that Tom Brady's out of the league and now the Dolphins missed that opportunity and the Bills are doing what the Patriots did.

Speaker 1 But on top of that, the Patriots have now actually lapped the Dolphins where they were able to somehow rebuild and then be better than the Dolphins again. Yeah, Drake.

Speaker 1 That to me is maybe the most embarrassing part.

Speaker 20 Drake May has been really, really good. But if I can say one thing about the Tua controversy, which to me should not be a controversy, I think I'm the only one in the media.

Speaker 4 I don't hear anyone doing this.

Speaker 19 You are literally alone. Who else?

Speaker 4 Joe Rose isn't doing it. Everyone is bailed on this ship except for the homerific Cody who's saying that's Tua trying to exhibit leadership.
I've heard no one else say that. Okay.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 20 Tua's problem is not what he said. Tua's problem is the broad public perception that he hasn't earned the right to say it.

Speaker 21 Okay.

Speaker 20 If Dan Marino says the exact same

Speaker 20 words, everybody's going, wow, that took balls to say that. He's right.
Danny's expressing leadership. He's stepping forward and saying, hey, you guys, get your act together.

Speaker 20 This bullshit is where we shouldn't be playing this terrible.

Speaker 1 But Marino was amazing from the get-go.

Speaker 18 He earned it immediately.

Speaker 4 Oh, but this is such a good place that Cody is making this argument from. Everybody knows the ship be sinking.

Speaker 21 Like, it's all done.

Speaker 4 It's rarely do you get one of these calamities, sports calamities, that everyone in the country's looking down there and saying, that might be worse than the Jets.

Speaker 4 And look, the Patriots are better and the Bills are better. We love this sport.
Patriots ruled it. Are the Patriots going to to rule it again? Look what's happening with the Jets and the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 They fought over Fitzpatrick. Bills tried him too.
This has been funny for 20 years. Now it collapses in Miami in a way that's louder than the Jets who don't know how to coach.

Speaker 4 Like the Jets don't know how to coach what's happening there. They are coaching calamities there.
That's an amateur football team. It's not because the talent's amateur.

Speaker 4 It's like everything happening there is the most amateur thing in the league. Penalties, stupidities, and

Speaker 4 that's the worst team in the league by miles. Like we've seen no greater incompetence this season than the Jets passing game in the last game.

Speaker 4 Took the stink to two countries, but laughing is in Miami.

Speaker 4 Jets are done, everyone's finished, but the laughing's in Miami because the quarterback and the coach are fighting, and it's loud as hell. And there's only one columnist in America who's saying,

Speaker 4 I don't see it on national television either. No, two is trying to lead here, but the company,

Speaker 4 the region doesn't believe he's actually Marino.

Speaker 20 It believes he's a failure too, who's going to get swallowed by the mess so he has no backing except cody okay let let's make this clear he is speaking as a captain of the team and as the starting quarterback about player-only meetings yeah that that's like his res that's like the leaders of the team lead those meetings right who's the leader of a player only meeting if not tua

Speaker 1 He is. Right.
It's like, but he's questioning the leadership.

Speaker 11 He's like, we have people not showing up to these things. Whose responsibility is it to pressure people and make people feel like they need to show up to these things?

Speaker 20 When you call a players-only meeting, you don't call people 20 minutes before the meeting and say, hey, you're going to be there, right? You assume they're going to be there.

Speaker 20 And when they don't show up, and then you blow the game in the manner that they blew it, you're frustrated enough and angry enough to say something. I don't blame the honesty in that.

Speaker 26 I appreciate your perspective here, but what do you make of Mike McDaniel coming out and saying, Tua shouldn't have done it that way?

Speaker 20 I think he didn't support his quarterback. I think what he said about Tua was worse than what Tua said about his unnamed teammates.

Speaker 4 The ship be sinking, guys. Like, this is how it happened.

Speaker 21 Man, they don't want to be laughed at by everybody.

Speaker 19 I think, isn't Chris supposed to be the frat guy?

Speaker 27 Why are you doing that?

Speaker 29 Twice he did that.

Speaker 20 He's sinking?

Speaker 10 Is that an apostrophe after sinking?

Speaker 4 It's just, it's what it's famous for. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 I wasn't.

Speaker 1 Wasn't that in the Toronto Blue Jays Clubhouse one time?

Speaker 21 No, this is. I mean, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 18 You sounded super duper cool when you said it.

Speaker 5 Pop your collar next time.

Speaker 4 I deserve that, but

Speaker 4 the story I'm remembering, and it's an ancient one, that

Speaker 4 the tabloids, when they were feeding in New York, back when the tabloids in sports meant something, okay? And basketball

Speaker 4 meant something that it doesn't even mean today, I wouldn't say, with today's Knicks, okay?

Speaker 4 Everybody was laughing in New York at the basketball team, and I'm forgetting the name of the player.

Speaker 4 It's a famous quote. The ship be sinking comes from a famous New York player.
Michael Ray Richardson. So forgive me for

Speaker 4 forgetting the name, but the moment that he said that, he gave fodder to the media to make the city explode.

Speaker 4 And now everyone laughs at this team because in his own voice, that guy just said, we all know that it's all going down. Everyone's going to get fired.
We're all going to lose our jobs.

Speaker 4 I've never seen it happen like this in Miami. Tell me when.
Tell me when you've seen that it's coming out to clean house. Like just get sweep everyone out of here.
The owner's old. He's a billionaire.

Speaker 4 He's a very successful man in every other way. This team continues to embarrass him because it's a, it's an international failure.
And now everyone wants everyone out of town.

Speaker 4 It's never happened in this market before.

Speaker 26 I feel like it's happened to the Dolphins like four times this century.

Speaker 16 With Floras.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure without any hyperbole, I say this.

Speaker 1 We are witnessing an all-time worst Miami Dolphin season. Not the worst, but one of the all-time worst Miami Dolphin seasons.

Speaker 26 this one sticks out because this pain is so drawn out i i

Speaker 21 we went into the season kind of feeling like this you were at a tipping point already

Speaker 26 where all the other ones like the the season kind of fell apart later in the year and then it was understood that guys would go and sometimes you had interim head coaches just mike mcdaniel's there just twisting in the wind there doesn't appear to be like everybody knows what the end of the rainbow looks like or i shouldn't say right there doesn't appear to be a path for anybody Mike McDaniel, Greer, Tua.

Speaker 19 There doesn't.

Speaker 30 So what are we doing here? Just kill it.

Speaker 19 Get a better draft pick.

Speaker 5 I think the funny thing about this team is that it could be like vastly different had just one or two plays gone different ways in different games while also not being different at all.

Speaker 5 Like had HN not stepped out of bounds in the Patriots game, they would have won the Patriots.

Speaker 1 But this is stuff that happens to bad teams.

Speaker 5 No, but what I'm saying is, had they won that Patriots game, that's another win instead of a a loss.

Speaker 5 Had they held on and won that Panthers game and not given up a second game-winning drive to Bryce Young, they would have won and not lost.

Speaker 1 But continually doing stupid things is what bad teams do.

Speaker 5 No, but what I'm telling you is,

Speaker 5 same thing could have happened with the Chargers where they make a tackle, they win that game. And you could be looking at a team that has a winning record

Speaker 5 that is not good.

Speaker 5 And then you don't make the changes that are necessary.

Speaker 5 So while the team is what the team is, These bad mistakes could end up helping them long term because it can give them such a bad record that they ultimately do what they've needed to do, which is completely clean house.

Speaker 5 They need to get rid of Greer. They need to get rid of McDaniel.
They need to likely figure out a way to move on from Tua. But if they have a winning record, they're not going to do that.

Speaker 5 And they're going to be stuck in the same position. And it's just dumb plays and mistakes that have put them in the position to finally make the decisions that they've needed to make.

Speaker 26 You brought up interesting points, but does this team feel close to you?

Speaker 19 Like that, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 30 You could talk yourself into it if the team's four and two.

Speaker 19 But I think that's exactly what you're doing, talking yourself into it, because they don't appear that close.

Speaker 9 They have six one-possession games.

Speaker 4 Oh, Billy's right. I mean, come on.

Speaker 19 The whole league is up to the team. It looks like trash.
This is like, from a neutral observer, that's a garbage team. It always has been this season.

Speaker 19 And you guys got blinded by some weird shit. I'm not exactly sure.
This has always been a bad team.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but Steven Ross.

Speaker 7 Brighton never made sense with his projections.

Speaker 21 Like, it was a bad team.

Speaker 19 It was one of the jokes in the league.

Speaker 5 But Stephen Ross

Speaker 5 has never made the decision and is never going to make the decision with this group of people if they continue having a winning record record or being a game away from the playoffs.

Speaker 5 They're like, we'll add here, we'll add there. They didn't add anything last.
I mean, they added Waller, which Dan ended up being right about Waller, which is like crazy.

Speaker 5 But they wouldn't have made like large-scale changes if they had a seven and whatever, 10 record.

Speaker 10 This is what we needed.

Speaker 21 It's going to be really good or really bad.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 26 They're having that conversation in Cleveland. And do you think Cleveland's close to being a good team?

Speaker 21 Well,

Speaker 4 which one of you was saying that Cleveland is a must-win game for the Dolphins?

Speaker 20 It is.

Speaker 29 Yeah, they got to win that one.

Speaker 20 I think that if they lose at Cleveland, I think McDaniel might be fired after that game.

Speaker 7 Why wouldn't, to Billy's point, why don't you just lean in at this point to McDaniel, make this a bad season?

Speaker 1 Well, no, I'm telling you, it gets better when there's an interim coach. Sometimes you bring in an interim coach, all of a sudden, they like, you know, sometimes you get a

Speaker 18 Dan Campbell.

Speaker 4 Sometimes it's Dan Campbell.

Speaker 21 If I'm Ross, I leave it.

Speaker 11 And I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 12 I'm out. I'm out on these guys.

Speaker 5 Now, the reason you got to make the change if you're Ross, you have to show the fan fan base i'm angry also i'm willing to make big changes well he did i look behind you on the sidelines he put his hands on his head and that was like whoa that's a that was a statement by steven ross that's as mad as we've seen him who's the dolphins jeff saturday that they could be like hey you want to come in and just kind of stand on the sideline for half a season marino's never going to do that marines we know marino's jason taylor's at the university of my yeah he's tied up at the moment what's zach thomas doing that's a good question zt sam madison did some coaching sam madison ZT, that's your trick, Chris.

Speaker 12 I just said Maureen.

Speaker 4 That was a bad one. On Marino, you made him Maureen, and that was you and just as long as Marino.

Speaker 5 You just changed the last letter.

Speaker 18 Dan, the man.

Speaker 5 That's a good one, Roy.

Speaker 20 It's a cursed franchise. Here's an example.
When they went 1-15,

Speaker 20 that was not a panacea, okay? They drafted Jake Long, I believe it was,

Speaker 20 instead of Matt Ryan.

Speaker 20 They had a good year the next year in Sperano's first year, and then they went seven years in a row without a winning record.

Speaker 20 So even if you go one in 16 now, it would be, and get that top draft pick, it's no guarantee if you don't have good people making the picks.

Speaker 18 Look,

Speaker 20 everybody's going to be fired here, okay? McDaniel's going to be fired. Chris Greer is going to be fired.
It's just the only thing we're arguing about is when. Should it be right now?

Speaker 20 Should it be at the end of the season? That's the only debate here. We all agree this has been a nightmare season, and the current regime won't survive it.

Speaker 14 Greg, would you agree that McDaniel has had the blueprint in place to show that this offense can score 70 points, can be really good?

Speaker 14 If they went out and fired Chris Greer instead of McDaniel, how would that make you feel?

Speaker 20 Well, right now the problem is defense, even though everybody thinks Anthony Weaver is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league.

Speaker 32 Why does anyone think that?

Speaker 20 Because he's pedigreed from the Baltimore Ravens when the Ravens were really good, so you assume he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 7 GC, I think you're making a leap from a respected defensive coordinator coordinator to one of the best in the league. Like, I agree with you.

Speaker 7 I don't think anyone looks at him as the problem, but like, you just made a leap to one of the best in the league.

Speaker 20 No, in fact, one of the things in play here is that everybody would say, okay, if they fire McDaniel next week or the week after, the assistant coach who's fit to take over is probably Anthony Weaver, who happens to be the leader of one of the worst defenses in the league.

Speaker 20 So how would that look? You know, what kind of an optic is that if you're Stephen Ross?

Speaker 5 You also can't keep Mike McDaniel. Like, it can't be just get rid of Greer.
No, you can't. McDaniel has lost this team.
Like, he does not have the guys believing in him whatsoever.

Speaker 5 It's very obvious, and just changing Greer is not going to fix that.

Speaker 1 Well, no general manager is going to come in and say, Yeah, Mike McDaniel, that's my top choice to be the coach. No one's going to do that.

Speaker 20 No, the GM will want his own head coach. Now, he may be forced to live with Tua for the next couple of seasons, but he absolutely would be able to bring in his own head coach.