Local Hour: Dan Says "The Chiefs Are Dead" Again

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We're watching NBA TV as one does at this hour and this time of the year.

And Iceman's on with Scal.

And we were saying how Iceman is kind of committed to this hairstyle.

That we don't think that he could ever change that hairstyle.

There's not much of an evolution there.

It's just this is his look and he's going to kind of have that hairstyle forever.

There's not a ton that he could do with it.

And then we looked at Dan and we said, you know what?

Dan with a little bit of a salt and pepper going on with the beard, the glasses now rounder version of the glasses.

He's got kind of like an Andy Garcia vibe to him.

And we think that if he throws in a scarf, that it would really take his look to the next level.

That's how older Cuban gentlemen age.

They mix in a scarf.

But not like...

Martin Short type.

You know what I mean?

Like there's a, we'd have to get the right scarf, I think, for him.

And then it was kind of suggested back here, maybe we soft-launch the rebrand with an ascot, and then we

move into the scarf.

I like that idea.

Look, I don't think there's any soft-launching with an ascot.

I actually think that's more aggressive than the scarf.

Really?

You have it reversed.

You soft-launch the ascot with the scarf.

Now, Andy Garcia does a kerchief, though.

That's the classiest, right?

Like, you guys, he's doing it correctly.

You throw in a scarf with me.

It's asinine.

It's like truly.

It's a little stuffy for you.

But I like it as a character evolution.

Old Cuban man with a scarf.

Like I'm going for great style in my late Cuban age.

I've seen you wear a scarf a couple of times.

It's not a good look for you.

Yeah, I don't know why.

Yeah, Vegas.

They look small.

Did he have those glasses on?

I don't know.

It looks the way a sports coat looked on Chris Farley.

You guys think I should let you guys dress me?

Because I think I might give Tony a shot at it.

I think, Dan, I think I could put you together and get some more beads on your hands, on your wrists.

You're approaching.

Definitely beads.

Like 10 of them, though.

It looks like a QB wristband.

So many beads.

You got to get the one with the one white bead on it, too.

And it's like, this is Eyes from Antarctica.

And this really keeps me balanced.

So are you guys going to set that up for me?

You guys want to style me?

Do you want to

have a week where

you guys style me?

You're saying I need styling?

Yeah, you got to have styling.

I see you in a pipe.

Got to take up pipe smoking.

Yeah, with a pipe.

No, in a pipe, yeah.

I see you with a pipe, not in a pipe.

I cannot wait to get to your dolphin thoughts.

I can't wait to give them.

I think I have a breathless South Florida the way they used to around an AM radio as Jimmy Cephalo and Joe Rose die a syllable at a time on the air.

Greg Cody right now has a unique access to dolphin feelings as the author of Finns at 50.

Yes.

I got to update that book because it would now be Finns at 60.

Your team is the greatest laughing stock on earth, not known as the Jets.

Correct.

Yes.

Although the Dolphins had more than negative 10 yards passing Sunday, so it was a positive.

You know, I'm seeing the glass half full yesterday.

Don't do that.

I know, I'm kidding.

At this point, I'm kidding.

There were signs.

At least there wasn't a terrible press conference.

This is the Don Labatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

The Panthers are 3-0.

Damn right.

79 more.

They're at the top of the standings.

The Panthers,

I have to.

I'm obligated to start football instead of where the real excellence resides.

I'm going to do drama and bullshit at quarterback instead of like where greatness resides.

If the Panthers go undefeated in the regular season,

but then lose in the playoffs, is it viewed differently than the Dolphins going undefeated throughout the entire regular season and playoffs?

Yes.

Yeah.

Huh.

Got to do it in the playoffs.

You know, Miami found that out later.

The Heat are 0-4.

The Heat are 0-4.

Yeah.

Nobody comes.

It's the preseason.

No big games in the world.

Oh, but I thought when they were 4-0 in the preseason with Wade and LeBron and Bosch, I thought back then when it mattered like that, the preseason did matter when we cared about seasons like that.

Yeah, different expectations.

Cared about seasons the way that you care about the Panther season, which opens with three wins at home.

But I do feel obligated to get to the Jets first, not even the Tua stuff, because the Jets stuff is hysterical.

Like the worst passing performance ever in non-weather conditions.

Like I understand a terrible passing performance if it's like crazy snow and stuff, but you're going to have negative 10 in the passing age.

You're going to have negative 10 yards.

Your coach is going to be overmatched and fired and like halfway through the season because they don't know what they're doing at the end of halves.

And he's getting mad at the media because.

he's still arguing that what we saw from Justin Fields was professional quarterbacking when you see what's happening in that league.

That's not what quarterbacking looks like.

Everything needs to happen a lot faster than that.

Caleb Williams had to learn it like that.

Justin Fields had to learn it like that.

Justin Fields, you're not learning it fast enough.

Justin Fields, you're finished as a quarterback in this league.

You're avoiding the Chiefs, aren't you?

I owe Nick Wright a white Corvette.

We changed it after the bet was made.

I don't think, no, no, no, I owe him.

No, I owe him a white Corvette.

Or $5,000.

No, I, or $5,000.

That was the bet made.

The bet was $5,000.

$5K.

We decided to joke Corvette.

No, I was...

I asked Erlene, your wife, for the VIN number of your.

I'm trying to buy your white Corvette to give it to her.

We're efforting.

We're efforting to find that original Corvette, the white one that my dad got.

That would be so.

I lost the bet, and it's not even a bet I understand.

Like, the reason I don't understand the bet is why am I now the guy who's against the Chiefs?

All I've said is that their offense has been bad for a year and a half.

That's not what happened.

Oh, that is rich, pal.

Are you serious?

No.

That's not all.

What?

No, you own that.

What do I own?

Oh, stop.

What's wrong with the offense?

Oh, he's a dink and dung quarterback now.

I'm pretty sure you said it was dung.

You guys put that on.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

This is rich.

This is something special.

Yeah, no, it's me.

It's us.

It's everybody else.

I owe Nick Wright a white Corvette.

It is now three outstanding debts.

We should do sports trivia.

Maybe we should do it at this crappy watch party we got to do for the world's crappiest game, sponsored by Miller Light.

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We're going to do a block party.

We haven't had a party around here in a while.

We need one.

We need a party around here.

And we're going to do it around the Ravens and the Dolphins, no matter how many losses there are between them.

Come watch Lamar Jackson.

Maybe.

And a defense for the Ravens that has given up more points than Ray Lewis's Ravens gave up the entire Super Bowl season.

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I'm trying to get Greg Cody's white Corvette that I now owe.

It's three outstanding debts, and I'd like to do sports trivia.

Do you guys know what my three outstanding debts are?

Because

I know what the three are.

I only know, though, what two of them are about.

The white Corvette I now owe, Nick Wright.

Do you know the other two?

Two debts I have not paid.

I don't.

Maybe we'll leave it unsaid for a while.

If you guys don't know, then it's a difficult trivia question because I like to pay my debts.

And I've got two that are outstanding on this show that surely listeners will remember, even if you guys don't.

But, Billy, how mad are you at Tua Today?

How mad are you at the Dolphins?

How mad are you at everything Miami before we get to Greg Cody as the author of Finns at 50?

Wait, don't you have to do a Prince Fielder photo shoot?

Yeah.

Well, see, that's the one I don't know why I owe that.

Like, you guys have said that, but it's kind of like this Chiefs thing you just did to me.

No, it's nothing like that.

Yeah, yeah.

you guys made it soon.

No, you guys made it so.

We are flatly holding the line here.

We're not going to let you do that.

That's fine.

You weasels.

That is the most weasely thing you have done in a long time.

I thought the Chiefs officially got together.

Just help you.

We kept throwing you lifesavers.

Man, don't do this.

Don't do this.

They got guys coming back.

Don't do this.

And you're like,

Rashi Rice is coming back this week.

They're dead.

They're dead.

I've done that.

Okay.

He's over, Mom.

Dink and dunk.

Now we've got some stakes with Nick Wright, don't we?

When we've opened with a white Corvette, he's the big Chiefs guy, and you guys are putting something on me that's already cost me a white Corvette.

You asked to make that bet.

You're like, 5,000, I'll give you points.

These are direct quotes.

That's correct.

But the bet that I am now stuck with, if you guys can find the sound, I'm happy to take the L on this.

I'm already owing a white Corvette, which is why I'm spending the weekend with Greg's wife trying to get a VIN number to a white Corvette.

I may just send him the one that Billy found, though, that doesn't have a transmission so I I can have the joke of he's just got a burden and a responsibility in front of his brownstone.

You are walking back your Chiefs take so hard.

Jeremy found a quote.

Jeremy, can you please inform Dan and the audience?

Quote, he is a dink and dunk quarterback.

I don't believe that if Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, you mentioned were these out, I can have them lose guys and they'll have a variety of game.

They'd have a versatility required in today's game that wouldn't make them look as unaesthetically pleasing as what I'm watching from the Chiefs.

You assumed every game that they were going over 30 points.

That team's dead.

Dan Lebatard.

Whoa.

Ah, that team is dead.

Own that.

That team last night had one play of 30 yards.

In fairness,

look at the pivot.

They also didn't go over 30 points.

They stopped at 30 yesterday, so he wasn't wrong about that.

The team that is dead, and I will remain believing is dead, I don't want to start with the Chiefs, but since we're here, I owe a white Corvette.

That's the starting on the bidding, and now I'm going to up the stakes because I'm going to bet Nick Wright all season on whatever this is because I

don't believe the Chiefs are going to be a champion again.

And I believe their offense, and I'm saying something factual and empirical here.

Over the last year and a half, before the last two games, the Chiefs' offense has been dreadful to watch.

And what was dead is the 30-point team that you bet the beginning of games.

That game's going over 31 and a half on the Chiefs.

I believe that team and that offense to be dead.

You guys have been saying, well, when Rice and Worthy are back, you will see a difference.

And we have obviously seen a difference.

But it is not the team that won the Super Bowl with Tyree Kill flying down the field 50-yard plays.

They do it in one drive.

They require precision right now that I believe still puts them well behind the top teams in this league.

But you guys are going to make me, Patrick Mahomes was done.

That's what you guys are telling me.

That team is dead.

You said that team is dead.

That offense is dead.

Okay, and the entire time we're like, wait, there are guys out.

And once those guys came back, as you mentioned, mentioned, that's what we were warning you against.

Because the results you were taking was because they didn't have those guys.

The results you're taking after two games is to say the Chiefs are something I still don't believe them to be.

Okay, so you doubled down.

Cool.

They still think they're dead.

They've also scored the second most points in the AFC.

That's right.

Behind only the Colts.

The Chiefs have more cause to win the Super Bowl right now than they've had all season.

I am beginning to believe in the Chiefs.

This is a wide open season.

There's no super teams.

Bills have lost.

Eagles have lost.

The Ravens are what they are.

There are no super teams and I'm not going to trust a team that's been to the last six Super Bowls or whatever that crazy stat is with Mahomes.

I mean you trusted the Dolphins.

About to get Rashi Rice back.

By the way, when you say I trusted the Dolphins, I predicted them to go 9-8 and have a chance to make a wild 15th best team.

Don't act like I ever pushed them for the Super Bowl.

Hell no.

Can you get me the Dolphin sound?

I will continue to argue this with you guys for as long as you'd like to argue it, but I do want to get to what's happening with the Dolphins because it's interesting, because, of course, they're seen as done again, again, again, as we could have said at 0-3.

As you can say,

six games in, there will be no bouncing back from this when

you lose games like the one they lost yesterday, where you get the two a comeback.

Like, this is all going to get lost in the press conference.

It really is.

But to beat that Chargers team and someone Zaz is saying is the greatest coach of all time, better than Belichick because he can win on any level.

You got exactly what you needed at the end of that game.

Those Chargers were tired in this South Florida heat, they had no pass rush left.

That team was done.

You finished them to had the play you needed to have to waller in the back of the end zone.

The game is one.

All you've got to do is make a tackle.

You could choose which one you'd like to make.

You can make it of Herbert

or you can make it of McConkey, but all you have to do is make one tackle.

And neither of you can do it because now for this season, you guys are losers.

Like you're going to be losers all season.

There's no bouncing back from this.

And as the flames climb, the quarterbacks at the press conference saying, well, it's not me who doesn't care.

It's not me who's not showing up to the meetings.

The problem is with leadership, but it's not me.

We had a players-only meeting.

And this is what happened.

I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys.

And then what we're expecting out of of the guys, right?

We're expecting this.

Are we getting that?

Are we not getting that?

We have guys showing up to player-only meetings late, guys not showing up to player-only meetings.

Like, there's a lot that goes into that.

Do we have to make this mandatory?

Do we not have to make this mandatory?

It's a lot of things of that nature.

To be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed?

Late.

Yeah.

Yeah, thank you.

Can you mandate a players-only meeting?

Who's in charge of a players-only meeting, Dad?

Let's just talk this out.

Well, who's the captain of the team?

Who are the captains of the team?

That's a great question.

And by default, let's say the team had no captains.

Your default captain is your starting quarterback.

Zagak.

Like, I don't mind that Tua said what he said.

He's ripping himself.

He's ripping the entire.

It would be funny if he was the one that was late.

They're supposed to be.

Well, there were tweets of players that said, like, I was on the Dolphins for three minutes, which wasn't a very long time, but Tua was late to the first players-only meeting, the only one I was part of in training camp.

So it seems as though we might be leading by example for her to believe that that's a real person.

But Tua is a team captain.

Alec Ingold, Zach Seeler, Bradley Chubb, Aaron Brewer, and Jordan Brooks are the team captains this season for the Dolphins.

So when he's saying that leadership is failing and then points out a players-only meeting, he would be the leadership in that situation, which is failing, which is not a good thing for him to be pointing out.

And I've said before that I think he needs lies here on because he's a little bit too honest and he's comfortable in his honesty, but it's not doing him any favors because I think that, you know, as the season's gone on, we know this is probably going to be it for Mike McDaniel.

It probably, well, definitely should be it for Chris Greer.

But now, you know, anyone who was kind of a Tua defender was like, well, let's see what Tua is with new coach.

And now you're like, this guy is also not working.

Not that there were many people that still were saying he was working, but I don't know how you can get rid of him if you even wanted to, but it seems like they need to completely clean house.

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Tua said last week, and he made news for just being like, you know, I'm actually in a decent mindset right now because I'm not on social media.

I go home and my kids are still happy to see me.

I would argue that his kid, we should show his kids that interception on that last play of the game.

They need to see it, they deserve to see it.

Wait, this is going to happen to Tua today, Greg.

Let's see where your homer is on this because this is going to happen to Tua today because it's three interceptions.

He won the game, people.

The interceptions on Waddle, the first one, the third one's irrelevant.

You've coughed up the game he just won for you, and he threw a pick.

But also, 27 at home should be enough to beat those Chargers.

27 at home with two game-winning drives where the pass rush can't get near you, and you're throwing to Waller in the back of the end zone.

He won the game.

The game was won, and then it wasn't won because you've got all the advantages at the end of the game.

Make a tackle.

Make a tackle.

You've got the quarterback.

You've got Herbert in your hands.

Jalen Phillips, you are the king of almost.

It starts before they miss that tackle.

It starts before Jalen Phillips missed the sack.

It starts before the pass to McConkie.

It starts with the special teams allowing a long kickoff return.

Okay, here you're facing

a Chargers place kicker who's got all kinds of length on his game.

He can kick a 60-yard field goal.

And you're giving up a kickoff return past the 40-yard line.

They did everything wrong.

The special teams lost that game.

The defense lost that game.

Tua, I'm glad you mentioned that.

Tua, on what should have been the heroic game-winning drive, did everything right.

He was as good as I've seen him on that drive.

He was eight for eight, eight for eight for 57 yards.

He gave them a lead with 40 seconds.

With a very limited offense against a very good defense that was gutted.

It was gassed.

If the special teams and the defense finish that game, we're having a whole different conversation about Tua right now, and he doesn't say what he says.

I'll go a step further.

I'll go a step further than that.

If the apocalypse that somehow never happens in that sport, and I don't get why this never happens, Dicker is insane.

Okay.

The stat that he's 100 from a, he has 100 of 106 and five of the misses are from 50 plus.

That snap was terrible to win the game.

Like terrible.

What the holder did, and I don't even know who the holder is, was rescue the game.

Like that's as bad a snap as you will ever see on, and no one remembers it.

And if that snap had been botched, none of this comes to the surface.

We never see any of it.

The game's over right there.

And Tua did win the game.

Yeah, and he's the hero today.

All of a sudden, we're saying, you know what?

Tua's three and one head-to-head now with Justin Herbert.

Who is better?

I don't know how that holder got it down.

Yeah, it was high and inside.

Well, this is two weeks in a row that Tuas had a game-winning drive that didn't actually win the game because then the defense came and immediately gave up the lead.

I also don't understand, though, like

Tua's complaints and the thing.

I don't know what a players-only meeting would have done to teach them to tackle on the last drive that would have won them that game.

But it does sound like it speaks to a larger issue, which was kind of hovering around this team over the offseason, which was reshaping the culture.

Now, Tyreek Hill is away from the team because he's injured.

You still have this culture problem.

I think you guys did a really great job at framing that this is not all Tua's fault.

Tua had some moments.

That is a disastrous clip from your leader, from your quarterback.

I don't know what's worse.

The fact that he's putting that business out there or the fact that it actually happened.

I don't know if that's, that feels like a last resort leadership

to snitch on people that way.

Oh, but it's not even that, though.

Like, this is the apocalypse, right?

They could have denied like Cody for four or five games, oh, well, it was, we're still in it.

It was almost against Carolina.

You know, we look good against the Jets, whatever the arguments would be on behalf of the structure of this thing that is clearly dying, right?

Like we've been saying for a month, it's all over.

This is the longest tenure a GM has ever had without a playoff game.

There's no playoff win without a playoff win.

There's not a GM in the league who has had more time and done less with playoff victories than Chris Greer.

So worst in the league when you're talking about spending like $900 million,

$900 million in free agents,

what is it, 21 first and second round picks.

And what you have to show for it, a player like Jalen Phillips.

Could have won the game for you.

And now the flames are climbing so high on everyone that Tua got his money, but he's got no protection on his career anymore.

Like these two people are clearly gone.

And he gave you the game-winning drive.

Like we don't have a lot of those to remember.

We don't have any against winning teams.

Like the reason this thing is broken, they can't beat anyone good.

They're like 1-15 the last 16 games against teams with a winning record.

Yeah, I think the exact stat is he's now 3-16 on a 3-16 skid against teams.

That's not a skid.

That's a resume.

Yeah, that's who you are.

That's not even a trend.

That's who you are.

That is not a skid.

You can't beat good teams at the end.

We know we're getting that interception.

And we know to fear Herbert those last 50 seconds.

We know to fear Herbert those last 50 seconds.

Why do we know that?

He doesn't have a bunch of playoff victories.

He's got none.

I would argue we don't know we're getting that interception at the end.

I have never seen the play where there's no timeouts left and you have to go the full length of the field to get a touchdown.

Usually you just throw it and then it's just a bunch of laterals.

He intercepted the easy pass.

I've never seen that.

pass intercepted before.

The defense usually concedes, all right, there's got to be some silliness here.

There's just one linebacker there there, like, I'm going to go stand near the guy they're going to throw to, and he just throws it right to the linebacker.

Yeah, we're going to establish that you can catch this easy one, and then you do your circuit.

That's a great point by Chris.

I've never seen that.

You never see that.

The Charger pick six with a pre-vent pick, you don't see it.

But the Charger did go to the huddle before that play, and they just all go, Hi, Jinx, right?

Like, that's right.

I'm going to do the thing.

And the one guy's like,

I'm going to go cover the guy.

Don't worry about me.

And then he almost picks six it.

Don't over pursue.

In Tua's meager defense.

How many has been a lot of meager Tua defense?

Okay, this is a meager one.

Of those one in 16 against winning teams, how many game-winning drives has he almost had?

Right?

Because it feels like there's been a lot of almost game-winning drives.

He leads the league in almost game-winning drives.

And then the defense lets it up, and you're like, oh, Tua had the moment.

He has seven of those, and then it's just not there.

I love Jalen Phillips.

I love his story.

He's such a nice man.

How do you miss that?

Right now in sports, to me, locally, he's almost.

He's almost.

He's almost gotten 14 sacks this year.

He's almost

caused a gain of 40 yards right there.

The only problem with that is that I don't think that people realize that Justin Herbert is kind of bigger than he's a gigantic.

He's almost bigger than Jalen Phillips.

Justin Herbert is bigger than that.

I don't think people know that.

I don't think, I think they just see Jane.

I think they just see Jalen Phillips miss tackling.

They don't understand that Herbert's bigger than Jalen Phillips.

Isn't Herbert like 6'6 ⁇ , 260?

He's a giant person.

Tua has never

and will never make that play.

Right?

Like that, it's that simple, right?

The entire conversation can be distilled down to this, which is that Justin Herbert is physically capable and mentally capable of switching hands with that football, avoiding the sack, making the throw that leads to the huge game to win.

To a guy named Lad McConkey.

And we can say all we want.

He's good, man.

He's good.

He should have a shot.

He's really good.

He shouldn't be that guy.

He's got a shot at Whitehall.

He shouldn't have that name.

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It doesn't make sense.

I mean,

they target him 10 times a game.

Like, I'd prefer to throw the ball to Keenan Allen, but it's because, oh, you guys do realize how insane that juke was, right?

You guys realize that there aren't that many players in the league who could actually break free in the open field when all the DVs in that huddle have been told, hey, hi, Jinx.

Yeah.

Prevent pick.

You never see it.

I want to talk about

Stephen Ross's reaction on the field because he knows that the cameras are fixated on him and he almost played up his

frustration there.

The guy went down on the field to celebrate

a season-saving victory, and it all unfolded in front of his eyes the way that most people at home thought it would.

Most Dolphin fans in that stadium, I kind of felt like knew that was going to happen.

And he was visibly frustrated.

This image captures it, but after he walked off,

he was playing up the fact that he was really pissed off.

Guys, just so you understand that these are human beings, no matter how rich they are, this is the

the end of his life and career in business and sports.

Like

his window is what Jerry Jones's window is, and he does care about winning.

He doesn't want to be this 25-year embarrassment.

I replaced Robbie Heizen Gashula, and this is an unholy mess on my watch.

I'm making tons and tons of money.

It's been a great business deal, but most people think I don't care, don't know what I'm doing.

I always hire clowns.

They always embarrass me.

That yesterday, in every way, was an apocalypse that comes after the four before it

for people who care, don't want to be embarrassment.

Mike McDaniel will rebound somewhere as an offensive coordinator, but he doesn't want to be known as somebody who can't handle this job.

Tua doesn't want to be known as someone who was gifted $250 million by a coach who made him a marionette who can play and lead the league in passing back when we believed the Dolphins were good.

Now the whole thing is falling apart, like in a way that's super obvious and super embarrassing.

And your quarterback in the press conference says, not me, it's leadership.

Like, that can mean anything.

Well, he's one of the leaders.

No, but it's not, he's one of the leaders.

Like, you can't say it's a players-only meeting and it's leadership.

And when you said leadership the first time, we thought you were going to take out your coach.

Leaders don't look around for other leaders.

Yeah.

He's not, he's, he's not the leader that the team named him to be if he's around a microphone openly questioning leadership.

The team's missing Tyreek Hill.

When he was a captain, a lot of this stuff wasn't going on, to be honest.

That's why we said before, hey, if he was a real leader, he wouldn't be a captain this year.

And look, not a captain.

And as soon as he's out of there, everything seems to be falling apart.

I think I'm the only one here, apparently, who does not blame, and in fact, credits Tua for speaking out like he did.

It was the frustration speaking.

If his team doesn't blow that win that he had earned with an 8-for-8 drive, he's not saying any of that in the post-game.

That was frustration speaking and if if he's right if there were teammates who were late for the players only meeting and just blew it off and missed that meeting why shouldn't they be called out why shouldn't the player who missed that meeting be angry right now because he's looking at a mirror going you're right i did miss that meeting should have been there but do you think that now those players after tua has publicly called them out are like you know what i need to prove something to tua because like tua took out both the leadership so we're thinking maybe coaching staff maybe you know front office whatever he took out them and he took out the players.

So he's really kind of taking everyone out but himself when he's having that conversation.

And you're saying had they not blown that lead, he probably wouldn't have said that.

Yeah, he probably wouldn't have, which is why it looks even more like an excuse.

It's desperation.

That's all it is.

They're one and five.

They're going nowhere.

They just had a heartbreaking.

Think of the last two games.

They blow a 17-0 lead.

Against Bad Carolina.

Who Dan ended their season after a victory.

It's still over.

Even though they they have back-to-back.

It's still over.

Did you see what Baker did?

They can't win that division.

There's not a circumstance under which they'll win that division.

If they don't win that division, their season's over.

Rattler looks good, too.

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And then, like,

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I may take it one step further.

Wait a minute.

We haven't.

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Slow down.

We haven't even gotten stugats.

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If I can, what I would say to you is when you're asking a leader to be a leader in the hardest of positions, which is it's everyone for themselves now.

Who's to blame for this?

Everyone's going.

Everyone's embarrassed.

Everyone's laughing at us.

Who's to blame?

Generally, in these spots, the quarterback just eats it, toughs his way through the headlines of, I'll lie to your face, my protection has to be of my players.

But this is why this is happening.

I'm just going to read this to you because these are stats for why all of this is happening.

The Dolphins are now 1-15 in their last 16 games against teams with winning records.

Mike McDaniel is 11 and 18 in his past 29 games.

Tua, like Billy said, 6-17 all-time in the 23 games against teams with winning records.

The Dolphins haven't topped 30 points in any of their past 13 Tua games against winning teams.

They're 2-11 in those games.

So that's one set of stats.

Now, here's the other.

The Dolphins were 19-5 coming into this season when scoring three touchdowns in the McDaniel era.

They're now 1-4 this season when scoring three touchdowns.

They need to score four touchdowns a game and be the best team of all time to beat Lamar Jackson in Baltimore and win a game on a miracle because unless they have the best offense in the league, the whole thing is broken.

Like none of it works.

You don't have value at quarterback anymore.

You don't have the fast wide receiver anymore.

You're going to use up Waddle and whatever's left of Waller.

So the whole thing's broken if you're not a perfect offense.

It's because the defense will allow any running back in the world to have 200 yards.

Like any running back in the world, you can put back there.

I bet on the wrong one yesterday, knowing the Chargers were going to have 200 yards.

I thought Haddock was the starter.

I didn't have Hopkins.

Whatever.

Looking at Tua as the leader, it's crazy to think that ultimately he just said a couple weeks ago that he drinks water to prevent concussions, and that's the third worst thing that he's said in the last two weeks.

But speaking of bad things said, Chris, we have anything with Dan on the Chiefs?

They have ruined the entertainment value of Patrick Mahomes, ruined it.

But he is a dink and dunk quarterback.

I'm watching a quarterback who looks like all the other quarterbacks.

That team's dead.

Wow.

Back to life.

Back to life.

You're going to force this car on Nick Wright that he doesn't even know that he's winning, which wasn't the bet.

And I'm that's hilarious, actually.

I'm wondering what it's going to cost Nick Wright to pay for parking for that car in New York.

That's why it's such a great joke.

That's why I want to give him the car without the transmission.

The bet was a white Corvette.

That was the bet.

No, factually inaccurate.

No.

No.

We went to that after he left.

Said it the same show.

I'm with you, Dan.

Yeah.

That's funny.

But just between us, you know, you're changing the bet.

But

I'm unlikely to save money here, like shipping a white Corvette to him if it's Greg Cody's, which I thought was the bet.

No.

I mean, I would be so pissed if I were Nick Wright.

So pissed.

Because I have five grand coming my way.

Not a car that becomes a problem.

He'll get the joke.

I think he'll laugh.

It's a great joke.

It's a great joke.

And it'll cost me more than $5,000 to send the car without a transmission to ship it to him from where was it that you found it?

In Ohio, Billy?

Where'd you find find it?

In Illinois, I believe.

That's not going to be cheap.

That's all going to be worth more than $5,000.

I'm sure when he hears that, he'll be like, okay, then that's

what it does cost him more than $5,000.

I'm giving him more value than $5,000 to get that sentimental white Corvette because Cody and Cody's mean so much to him.

You're not going to be able to find my sentimental value.

It wasn't even sentimental to Greg.

He hated it.

There's sentimental value to this thing.

This is good PR, though.

Alpha announcing will be like, Cody says Nick Wright, a white Corvette.

The reason it's, the reason everything in my head, you guys experienced a different thing than I did with that.

It's a common theme from this segment.

I asked Nick Wright

something about why he's such a good gift giver.

And he said he had gotten his father for his 75th birthday a beautiful old car that had all the thoughtful details in it.

And then we started talking about Greg and the white Corvette.

And that's how we landed on Nick Wright's coming on, What's the Bet on the Game?

A white Corvette that we didn't think we could get.

And then he's like, well, then just make it five thousand dollars if you're bored and have no creativity

no i don't think that's how that's how i remember

that's how he remembers it it was like let's get some action you're like i'll do some action he's like five grand and then you were just like fine but what i'll give you points but where'd the white before you said i'll give you points so

the white white corvette came up after where we were like hey that would be a really funny joke too bad he didn't agree to that the white corvette came up before because greg was complaining before this show about the white corvette then we were trying to get the segment started the The segment started with him deciding that we should start the segment talking about whether or not Greg.

He chose, I had the clumsy beginning where I'm telling him, what are you first?

An old-timey radio guy, right?

And so I was asking him to make a content decision on should we go to Erlene on a bad line

to talk about this white Corvette.

And so in my head, I thought we were betting a white Corvette.

That's why I was asking Erlene this weekend, what's the VIN number on your, the old car, so I can get him that white Corvette.

She didn't tell me that.

When are you calling my wife about a vin number how does that work what else are you talking about seriously um i asked your son as well i'm trying to get i i i owe nothing

i woke up i woke up this morning knowing grateful for a brawl that distracted people and knowing i owed i hated this that i owed nick wright five thousand dollars And the way I'm going to pay it is with a white Corvette, whether he wants it or not.

And I hope it doesn't have a transmission because I could say I could pay my, I could say legally,

rationally, that I paid my debt.

I don't know about that.

I think when you bet somebody $5,000,

it's pretty much a cash bet.

What's pretty much mean?

And Dan's taking that pretty much.

He's taking that little leeway.

That's it.

I am to send him something that's going to cost me more than $5,000.

It's a nice rationalization there.

What year would you guesstimate your Corvette was, the white one?

I asked my mom this.

I believe she was a little unsure, but it was either 98 or 99.

Earlene said we were looking for a 2,000 VIN number and that we're still looking for it because that is the sentimental Corvette I will take and send him if I can.

But if I can't, then I'll be obligated to just send him the bad one because it's the only one I've got left.

You know what else you can do is send him $5,000 in pennies.

The only person who

may have

the only person who may have sentiment about this Corvette is the current owner of said Corvette because Greg didn't have sentiment towards it.

It means absolutely nothing to Nick Wright.

You seem to really have some sentiments about this Corvette for whatever.

It's a good gift.

It's a good gift.

You can't dispute that it's a good gift.

The audience would like it.

They could have appreciated it more than I did.

Well, but and we could go double or nothing here with a number of really high

two Corvettes.

We could keep

we can make this bet be more and more dangerous all the way up until the Super Bowl, where I will continue to question whether Patrick Mahomes can be the offense he was with Tyreek Hill.

That team's dead.

You guys like the last two games, and I'd understand why it is you would say it's more representative of what this Chiefs team is than the last 18 games of Dink and Dunk that they gave us.

But when they get hurt again, inevitably, because that sport hurts.

This is spectacular from you, man.

I'm going to win.

The rare denial and doubling down.

I'm going to win the bet because I'm.

I'm banking on injuries.

Look, I saw the Packers.

To prove our point, by the way, which was always, it's the injuries.

I saw the Packers' offense look awfully good against that Detroit team on the road.

I mean, that Detroit team.

The Detroit team on the road.

I'm going to end up being right here.

They're going to get hurt again about us proving you're going to be right.

Which Brent, the Packers are the Packers.

You said you didn't say it.

Now you're going to be right.

The cheapest Corvette I see from the year 2000 is $13,000.

So this

fun game of yours is getting more pricey.

That's right.

Dan, I found a lot of personal growth in admitting when I'm wrong.

No one does it more than Mike.

No one.

I will not admit I'm wrong after two games.

You know what you're doing?

You're obsessing on the fact that they can't be the same offense they were when Tyreek was flying down the field in his prime.

They can't be the big play offense.

You said they were dead.

They also be a winning offense.

They won two Super Bowls since he left.

They got a great coach.

They got a really good, underrated defense.

They can win a Super Bowl without Tyreek going on.

So this is what you guys are doing now?

I just want to be clear on this.

What are we doing?

Well, I want to be clear on this.

I believe that if I take the field right now, I'm going to look really better than everyone in this room making the argument on behalf of the...

This is, yeah, coming from the maker that changed a $5,000 bet to a white Corvette.

Yeah, go ahead and play with the rules.

In this 18-game stretch, by the way, they made it to a Super Bowl.

Yeah, because they're really, really good at the precision of working around their limitations.

They've had a great many limitations, and twice they've gotten to the Super Bowl and had those limitations exposed once because the offensive line didn't work.

You have not heard me say that Patrick Mahomes has been made a lesser quarterback by anything other than everything that's happened over the last eight years.

I also heard you not agree with us as we warned you, Dan, that's the issue.

And you kept pushing and said, quote, this team is dead.

That team's dead.

Yeah, that part hurts me.

I meant the offense.

I also had a detailed thing, Ruby.

That's the point we were making.

Our group

said that Dan and Nick agreed to a five thousand dollar bet and then dan said want to throw in a corvette and then

nick just laughed in your face

so no what do you mean he laughed in my face so he laughed and then mike suggested a host swap and neither of you agreed to that so the only thing agreed on is five thousand dollars yeah but the laughter is tacit approval i'm being told we have a one-minute replay of it if we'd like to watch it and then dissect it all right let's hit it gotta go on that note you think a lot of people think that right now you think that a lot of people have two and a half point favorites dan they're at home.

They have the best player in the league.

You know, right now, Dano.

Right now, Dano.

How about this?

Just Chiefs Lions straight up.

Set the amount.

I can do in a little arbitrage with your friends at DraftKings.

I'll bet it on the other side plus the two and a half to look for a little juicy middle.

All right, let's do it.

What do you want to do?

Let's do it right now.

Tell me what the stakes are on this.

Make the bet right now.

Let's do it.

Let's team up right here.

We're going to tell me how I have to do that so that I can make the stakes something that's worth it to you.

I believe that Detroit is going to beat Kansas City.

They're all putting up five, so five grand.

Okay, all right.

Okay,

really?

Yes.

5,000.

I get the Jeeps even.

It just wins.

Straight winner.

Yeah.

Jeeps, Lions.

Yes.

I'll give you the points.

No, no, Dan.

You're such a bad negotiator.

What's going on?

I don't get points.

They're the favorites.

We're just doing straight winners.

Straight winners.

5K.

Yes.

Done.

You want to throw in a white Corvette?

Yeah, I thought the black Corvette was the bet.

I think he approved when he smiled.

I remember that being after he was gone.

But it can't be 5,000 and the white Corvette.

I thought that that's the bet.

I thought we were making the white Corvette bet.

I thought that's what we were doing.

Is a laugh is laughter accepting a bet.

So now you owe him a car and $5,000.

It seems like that video.

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