Hour 1: Dan's Strange First Question (feat. Nick Wright and Earleen Cote)
Good gift-giver Nick Wright joins the show to talk news fakin', hand shakin', and All-Star Game makin'. Dan and Nick make a bet that will likely result in the Shipping Container losing their bonuses for the year.
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This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.
Nick Wright, what are you more than anything?
Because I look at you and I think that your proudest source of entertainment is like an old-timey radio guy who respects the most performative aspects of whatever audio is, and that that would be the thing that you respect most as an entertainer.
What is the answer?
I'm sorry to introduce you this way, but
it's an odd first question.
I want all his Chiefs' information here because I'm genuinely curious for football knowledge from him on what happened with Jacksonville when the margins in these games are so small and whether you know what he thinks of what happens with the Chiefs.
And I'm also interested in what he has to say about LeBron James.
Smoother intro.
Yeah,
yeah, all of that.
Plus, also, I want the shipping container to know: Dan texts me, I think, two minutes before your guys' show started.
Hey, make sure, Dan, I guess I'm okay to say this, I'm saying it.
Make sure you have a question ready for United States Senator Corey Booker.
I then respond with, I think, a legitimate response, which is, okay,
is he on with me?
I have not heard from Dan until this introduction since then.
So I stepped in thinking, like, did we double,
am I, am all, am I being parachuted in?
No, so the reason I introduced you so clumsily is because I've got Earlene Cody, Greg Cody's wife, is on the line with a hygiene question, and I don't want to waste your time, but I really do want to get to your opinions on some things.
No, that's fine.
I'd rather, I have a chance to be on this.
I'm more nervous about being on with Greg Cody's wife than United States Senator Corey Booker.
Hi, Ms.
Cody.
How are you?
She's speaking on behalf of her.
Go ahead, Corey Booker.
Well, and Chris Cody has just said her internet is not great.
I'm nervous about it.
I'm worried about this the entirety of doing this.
I'm going to go to a great start.
But I have a lot of answers for you, but let's go to Ms.
Cody first.
And then I will.
Thank you for taking the risk with us.
I was going to ask your opinion and assume that you would have told us to take that risk.
But we've got, here's what the conversation is that we're having.
Greg Cody
was complaining when I came in here today that his wife had gotten him a white Corvette as a birthday gift, and he was complaining about it.
He was saying that he had to drive it around for two years.
He didn't like it as a gift, and I thought it was a great gift.
And so that's why we're having his wife on.
Greg's now saying he's being misrepresented.
Yes, thank you.
What do you mean?
Earlene, it came up that you know, I was so appreciative to get a surprise
car as a birthday gift, but that white is not my favorite color for a car.
That's all.
And so hypothetically, I was having a conversation.
When somebody gifts you a car, but you don't prefer the color, how do you handle that?
That's all.
Well, I think that that you should have left out not left out the facts of it's been 20 years since then and you've had four other corvettes including being offered to get a brand new one with
mine right none of them have been white since then i'm
sorry those two years of a lease was just so painful for you after you got rid of your minivan for that
the minivan yeah that's true uh thank you orlene your husband is forever disappointing also he came in here today without having showered after being in a hockey locker room.
That's true.
Thanks, dear.
Real prize.
Welcome to my world.
Real prize.
Real prize, you guys.
All right, goodbye.
Goodbye, Erlene.
Sorry, Nick.
Sorry, I did all of that.
I'm sorry.
No, I'm not sorry about it at all.
I just recently got my dad a car for his 75th birthday, 56 Chevy, Bel Air.
Nice.
It's the first car he ever drove.
Oh, that's a wonderful gift.
What an emotional,
what a great gift.
What a good gift giver.
What a secret, bro.
What a secret sentimentalist Nick Wright is.
I'm a, no, so again, I don't know if this is a look at me, Louie, or a humble brag.
You guys have that sound effect.
I don't know.
I'm a very good gift giver.
I'm a very, I don't know what love languages are and such, but I'm not the best at keeping in touch.
I'm not the best at like daily check-ins.
In fact, I might be the worst at that, but I try to overcompensate by grand gestures.
Now, to answer, I think your initial question, which was, what thing in media is most impressive to me, I think was the question.
And my answer to that is stand-up comic.
Because I, and I think being a great stand-up comic would, at least for the way my brain works,
give me a sense of fulfillment
more than anything else in media including or entertainment, including rock star or movie star.
Because if you're a movie star, yes, you're the star, but there's so much that goes into the production.
Even if you're a rock star, unless you're really like Adele standing alone on stage, and I don't even know enough about Adele, like, is there accompaniment with her?
It's a whole production.
Stand-up comedian in a theater with just a microphone with live real-time reaction to am I doing this well or not?
I think would be the single, it's the most impressive to me when people are great at it, and it's the, like, it would be the single coolest feeling.
That's my thoughts there.
Do you just want me to go straight into the Chiefs or do you want to ask more questions?
What do you want to do?
The thing that I wanted to ask you after that as a sports media performer is what are you proudest of that you do given that you're actually respecting the craft and how to entertain within this space?
So you have for 10 years you've ridden this ridiculous LeBron James take that he's better than Michael Jordan and everyone yells at you and it's just ridiculous how funny it is.
And then yesterday your boy, now that you are the most public of LeBron's supporters, he does a grotesque commercialization.
Oh my God.
I'm so glad we're talking about this because this, that tweet, you know how, gosh, and I hate to bring him up this quickly.
I don't mean to, but you know how your guy Pablo's been saying this story is an IQ test
and about the Kawhi Leonard thing.
I truly thought that LeBron's tweet two days ago, the decision part two or whatever it was,
was an IQ test.
And I am shocked at how many people in the media failed it.
And here's why.
And to give you full disclosure on this, so I, you know, I can't like just hit up LeBron and ask him a question, but I can hit up Rich, I could hit up Mav.
I did neither.
And my my pod, What's Right with Nick Wright, is every Tuesday around 10.30 a.m.
Eastern.
the producers asked me do you think we should push it a bit until after whatever LeBron does he does and I said with no recon and no research absolutely not there is no chance that is anything but a commercial how did I know that the same reason every single person should have known that Tuesday at noon.
That was the whole thing.
Anybody that has been following LeBron James for a quarter century that thought
he was going to announce his retirement or retirement tour on a Tuesday at noon is a moron.
That was not like, oh, he made us think he was retiring and it's a Hennessy ad.
Anybody with a pulse should have known that was going to be an ad.
You don't have to be a LeBronologist to know that he's not announcing his retirement on a nondescript Tuesday at noon.
So I think everybody that I saw a lot of people I like saying, you know, oh, he's selling in, trading in his credibility.
Give me a break.
Anybody that thought he was announcing his retirement.
You've mentioned that.
You've mentioned that.
What day and time should we expect it?
6 p.m.
Prime time on a Monday, I would imagine.
Some pomp and circumstances.
If that tweet said Monday, 7 p.m., I'd be like, oh, look out.
Hold on.
Maybe something's here.
But yeah, I mean,
that's the thing.
I don't think anybody actually thought he was announcing his.
No, I didn't think.
I will tell you this, though, and you're saying this to my face, and I do feel like a fool.
I was not doing any of that time stuff.
I did think that he was teasing with people's feelings because he does that.
Like,
it's been a move for 15 years and it's worked.
He's like, he is the internet ages athlete and he's being a troll as a dad at the end.
And I do feel like a moron and you're calling me on it.
But
I thought it was also grotesquely commercial.
No, I think obviously the proper way to announce a retirement or to retire in the NBA if you really want to be the GOAT is to do it three separate times, which makes the first two fraudulent retirements.
That's the way to do it.
The way to do it is to quit the sport multiple times, then come back, then quit again, then then come back, then quit again, and then joke about coming back at 45.
We all know the blueprint's been laid out on how to properly retire from this league, which is to not actually retire, just to quit and come back a bunch of times, and then have people pretend that anything that happened really post-retirement two or during retirement one didn't actually count.
That's the blueprint.
He's going his own way and selling cognac.
That's fine with me.
Who's he talking about?
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Don Lebatard.
Quiet man.
Yes.
You know, I'm a married man.
I don't cheat on my wife despite that gratuitous line in back in my year.
I wish you were here, my wife.
I really miss her.
No, I don't.
That's the thing about being married.
You know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife.
I've been gone two days.
I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife.
I'm sorry.
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You know, what am I?
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All right, we'll see you.
All right, and then, you know, I'm going to see her in two days.
How's Jumpin' Charlie?
Good.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
I don't like that my reaction was to recoil there on all of it.
To that he was playing again with people's feelings 15 years later was a funny reminder, and I do feel like a fool for falling for it again.
Well, I must apologize, Dan.
I didn't know, to be honest with you,
that one of the people I was calling out was you.
I maybe would have softened that to be honest.
No, I don't.
I didn't.
I just feel like such a fool, Andrew.
And
you're laughing in my face at something.
No, but for 15, well, but for 15 years, this dude was the economy here, and he's played for the Lakers longer than that.
The idea that he's still the story in basketball, even on a football Monday and Tuesday, is pretty funny when you look at a career unlike any other.
Like
a career that has no precedent in the sport.
The fact that he's still playing and still playing with our feelings as a top 10 player in the league is it's asinine that you get to be controversial for supporting that for 20 years.
Well, yeah, and here's, listen, I'll add to a take and then we can get to the football stuff, I'm sure.
I think LeBron could play
at an all-star level.
Right now, he's at an all-NBA level.
I think he could play at an all-star level for close to another till he's close to 50.
I see no reason, like when he quits, it's going to be because
that either his family wants him him to or it's just there's nothing left to do but the the we were
we were expecting the age curve 10 years ago and instead what we have gotten is a slight one or two percent a year deterioration to where he goes into this year what the seventh best player in the sport like the cliff isn't coming barring a catastrophic injury and so he'll play as long as he wants to and he'll he'll probably play with folks' feelings as long as you guys can't let him do that.
An all-star at 50 years ago, you guys can't let him
serving all-star at 50 years old.
Come on.
Well, hold on.
Hold on.
I'll buy 50.
I'll buy 45.
I'll buy 45.
Hold on.
You're buying 50.
I can buy 45.
50?
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
But he didn't age up.
Wait 30, so naturally he could wait till 50, duh.
When he left Miami, okay,
that first year in Cleveland, when Dan and others were saying, Hey, I mean, we've all heard the audio that the best of LeBron is over.
And he quit.
If I had come on this show,
if I had come.
What?
Hold on.
You said that.
I don't think he was wrong.
LeBron hasn't been sitting there.
2018, Bron was pretty good.
2016, Braun with the greatest three-game stretch in the history of sport is pretty good.
Shout out to him.
2020, Braun, pretty good.
But regardless, if I had come on this show
and said
10 years from now, he is going to be top six in MVP voting, that would have been more laughable at age 40 and year 22, gonna be a legitimate MVP candidate.
That would have been laughable and ridiculous, but it just happened.
So
my point is his because of his IQ, his size, and his body.
Don't Don't let him.
Guys, don't let him do that.
There's one guy that can play until 50, and it's Steph Curry because he can just hang out.
LeBron, he is so dependent on his athleticism.
I understand he's got a brilliant mind,
but there's already diminishing returns on there.
Like, it's only going to get, it's only going to slow down.
Why can Steph.
Steph's younger than LeBron, and LeBron's still better than him.
Well, Chio is staying in his business.
But Steph can just camp out and just
shoot till he's 60.
And LeBron could play
late stage post
the 30 game.
All-star at 50.
I can't believe he sucked me into this.
It is asinine.
Nick.
Is it honorary all-star like commissioner appointed all-star or all-star based on merit?
No,
what I'm saying is
that as long as like LeBron is 40, right?
No,
I'm 40.
I turn.
No,
he's 40.
He turns 41 in December.
Hold on, let's make sure we get this exactly right.
No, he and Tiger Woods have the same birthday.
He and Tiger Woods are both December 30th, not the same year.
I just turned 41 a couple days ago.
Thank you.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday to him.
I don't care.
Good luck.
I don't see any reason that LeBron in five years would not be just a much, much better version of Jason Kidd on the Mavericks, a great passer who can shoot and knock down spot up threes and just
you made him an all-star.
You didn't make him a Jason Kidd on the Mavericks was not
close to an all-star.
You didn't make him 11 points a game from three because he can kill four threes.
Much, much better version.
Again, I can't believe this is 50.
But, Nick,
same here, dude.
Jason Kidd on the Mavericks was an all-star.
Thank you.
Hey, hold on.
Who just said that?
He was an all-star.
That would be me.
Thank you.
Exactly.
For the Dallas.
And I just said a much, much better version.
Exactly.
Know your sports, Dan.
Instead of reading Twitter and seeing a Raven stat, he was 36 years old.
Know your stats, buddy.
He was 36 then.
14.
He is young.
Guys.
Guys, this is.
I can't believe we're arguing about this.
Same.
Let's go ahead and argue this.
60-year-old LeBron will be 36-year-old Jason Kidd, which is like 93 in 1991.
Yeah, exactly.
What do you say?
All right.
Can I
just be like, I disagree.
I disagree.
I disagree.
That's fine.
Strongly.
So
here is the question, because we're not going to get to see it.
So the question I would ask you is this, Mike.
Will we ever see LeBron play a season season in the NBA at a less than, forget all-star, all-NBA caliber?
I don't know if he'll allow that, but I think.
Well, then I guess we'll never know who's going to be right about the argument.
Yeah, well, I think we can assume.
Yeah.
How?
If he were to quit now,
he's already shattered all the history.
And you're a tennis guy, Mike.
Like, the guys are all, Jokovich is shattering all the history.
There's a difference
50.
Okay.
Again, what was your take on Jonathan Gannon?
40.
What was your take on Jonathan Gannon?
I should have credited that Ravenstat.
I'm ashamed.
Yeah, you should have.
I'm ashamed.
You're covered in a lot of shame today, Dan.
Yeah, if I'm being honest.
Hey, Nick, I believe we're arguing about LeBron.
Nick, was the 56 Bel Air gifted to your dad a white car?
No, it was like the sea foam green with a white swoosh on it.
Where are we on this?
It's a proper color.
Where are you?
Do you have to eat it if your wife gives you a gift that you didn't want to be white for two years is that what we're arguing
why don't you just have it why didn't you just cody this is it sounds like this is back when newspaper salaries were real fat and happy yeah why didn't you just have it painted bro you know what i didn't think of it
i mean i think that's the answer i think that would have insulted my wife that would have insulted that would have been good to ask her when she was on here yeah yeah well she didn't have great internet um jonathan gannett you can't
you can't punch your players like the the rule in life is very simple.
You're not allowed to.
Well, this isn't the only rule.
But one of the rules is you can't hit people.
They can't hit you back.
And so
that's like,
I didn't love that.
I didn't love him hitting the guy.
Yeah, but what does this mean?
Bad optics.
I didn't love it.
$100,000.
What's right here, Nick Wright?
Like, what?
No, I think what they did.
I mean,
I don't think you fire him.
And I'm not interested at all the in another workplace.
It's not another workplace, bro.
It's the NFL, and there's, like, there is
a
level of violence associated with the game that I understand how it can spill over in those regards on the sidelines.
But that was too much.
And so, like, yeah, I think a hundred grand is a real amount of money.
I think the shame of it.
And I think that the real punishment is, like, how do his players players respond?
And does he have to kind of win them back over?
That's like, that to me is, I don't know, am I, do you think I'm being too lenient there?
Oh, I just think that locker room dynamics, like that's a, it's a fascinating case study here to just really dissect in that locker room what's happening when a coach puts his hand on a player and all those players know in that room, hey, dad, you know how much he cares.
We watch him every day.
Like, he either cares this amount or he doesn't.
But you putting your hands on him in front of everybody when we just saw the most epic collapse in the sports you'll ever see.
They play that game a thousand times, Nick.
They play that game a thousand times.
The Nick, the Titans don't cover a thousand times.
Never mind, win the game.
They don't cover a thousand times.
He threw away a football game and his coach hit him.
Yeah, I agree.
I, but I also, I mean, I don't think you fire the guy.
I don't think that I
think that this is, it was
here.
Is my, I guess, bigger Jonathan Gannon takeaway.
I am less,
I shouldn't say less bothered, but if I were a Cardinals fan and not, you know, a member of DiMercado's family or friends, but I root for the Cardinals, I am more like long-term concerned about, oh, coach probably in a touch over his head, huh?
Like anybody that loses their S like that, it usually means the job's a touch too big for them.
I thought that person two weeks ago was the most stoic coach on any sideline.
Really?
Yes.
I didn't think he was an emotional.
I thought that he was...
I've got this wrong.
I mean, defensive guys are usually a little bit more intense.
There were videos when he was in Philadelphia of like screaming at people in their car.
Like, good energy, not like, move your freaking car.
More like, let's have and go.
But yeah, he was.
Well, to me, I put this in the same bucket, except he wasn't the head coach at the time.
And everyone got so mad at me for this take.
But as is often the case, it aged perfectly, much like LeBron.
Do you remember when
the offensive coordinator for the Bills, I think he's a Miami guy, right?
Was it Dorsey?
Ken Dorsey.
Yeah, Ken Dorsey.
He was throwing all the papers all over the room.
In that moment, I was like, okay, that guy's the job's too big for him.
Like, sorry, job's too big for him.
And the, you know, the bills kind of took off once they separated from him.
Like that, the job was too big for him.
And I think that that, I don't think those are unfair snap judgments on these things.
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Don Lebatard.
Surely every time you're watching this, you recognize that your wife is laughing that she married, she married Larry David.
I do, yeah.
One of the great characters in the history of television, in my humble opinion.
And to my credit, my personality.
In my humble opinion, followed by, to my credit,
my personality
predate curve your enthusiasm.
Stugats.
Oh, wow.
I'm not going to say Larry David patterned himself.
All right, put it on the poll, please, Jude.
You did Greg Cody copyright being an asshole long before Larry David.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Can you guys get me that video, please?
Because it's, yeah, it's an interesting thing.
Someone who cannot control themselves.
Ken Dorsey was viewed as a player, as a stoic, and then all of a sudden, he's your offensive coordinator and he's in charge of Josh Allen, and it's too much.
Yeah, that's what I think.
Yeah, the pressure of the moment.
I really, and this gets me in trouble with a lot of, hell, the last time I came on here, I, you know, the Lamar conversation, and all of a sudden,
I've got folks like PFF Moo in my mentions being like, actually, here's how football works, buddy.
And I'm like, okay, thanks.
I'm a big believer in pressure revealing, you know, a lot about high achievers or athletes or people in big-time jobs.
And I think that there are certain people that are great in the interview, great on the whiteboard, great in all these circumstances.
And then as the pressure ratchets up, they can't keep their cool.
Like, again, this is going to be corny and Mike will probably make fun of me, but like the, because it's a fictional movie, but the DiCaprio line in The Departed, where he's like, my hand doesn't shake.
Like, that's a, I believe that.
I believe in that.
That there are certain people who...
I knew Mike was going to make fun of me.
No, I'm not making fun of you.
That is a life motto.
My hand.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Yeah, I quote that all the time.
Does not shake.
Yeah, like, I'm a big,
I'm a big believer in that.
So to me, for Gannon, that's the bigger thing.
Because here's the other piece of it.
He did not know when the kid fumbled the ball that they were going to then have a cartoonish collapse.
He knew that the game could have been over and now they have to keep fighting, but that wasn't...
it was not as if he was, they were down four
as the clock is ticking to zero, and the kid fumbles.
And now it's, we were going to win, we lose.
There was a lot of fighting left to do, and they, you know, that to me precipitated the full-on collapse.
I want to ask you before we go about Kansas City and Jacksonville, but one last note, just to be clear.
Ken Dorsey was strong enough to be the guy whose hand doesn't shake.
I got the game wrong just yesterday.
I said his first game was at Washington and he wet himself and he said he was wetting himself running on the field.
It wasn't Washington.
It was Virginia Tech.
But he was playing high-stakes football and Ken Dorsey is at the center of Miami taking college football back from FSU because his hand didn't shake because late in that game he could throw the ball to Jeremy Schockey and they could overtake FSU.
Where do the levels of pressure this rise that Ken Dorsey's hand doesn't shake enough to win a national championship when he's got Willis McGahy and Clinton Portis and those people behind him and Frank Gold.
It's that the job changed.
I think normally it's whether, like, I think he might, maybe, was a full-on confident, you know, guy in the role he had there, quarterback for the Miami Hurricanes football team, and then not as confident in the role of offensive coordinator for NFL team with championship aspirations.
Like, there are, I think there are plenty of people who, I'm going to mix metaphors here a bit, but
can
do billion-dollar business negotiations and never blink and feel totally confident.
But if they sat down in a poker game for five grand, they would be a nervous wreck because in one setting,
they feel in their element, comfortable.
It's what they've, you know, they've trained their whole life for.
And in another setting, they they feel over their skis a bit.
Now, some guys, I assume, are just nervous nellies.
I don't know why I say that.
Well, but under all circumstances.
I just thought that that video was that game where Josh Allen threw his arm out on fourth and short.
He had one more pass to his running back in the flat, and they ran out of gas in the heat in Miami because Josh Allen just threw his arm out six yards at a time.
I think the point that Nick is trying to make is that there are plenty of good, great coordinators and make for bad head coaches.
Nick's a fan of a team that has one of those examples on the defensive side of the ball.
Every offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator at one time was considered a great position coach.
The way that Ken Dorsey was, he was behind getting Cam Newton to MVP levels and helping get Josh Allen to that next tier.
But the job was too big for him when he got a coach.
We said this of Belichick once upon a time, that he was only a coordinator.
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Like, I understand how we can do the revisionist history on Ken Dorsey now because he flipped out in a moment and didn't improve Josh Allen.
There are guys that are good at their jobs that are bad leaders.
This happens in
every possible workplace in America.
There are guys that are great workers that maybe shouldn't be, that aren't necessarily management material.
Yeah, I mean, when Ken Dorsey's at the University of Miami, his hand doesn't shake partly because he has a couple of future NFL running backs behind him.
That was a loaded team, including on defense.
It also, that to me, I don't mean to interrupt you, Greg.
I apologize.
It might be that, but it also might be that he felt that, no, I'm that dude.
I'm a great quarterback.
And maybe some people, maybe you feel more comfortable when it's I'm the one in charge of all the decisions.
And you feel a little helpless when it's all I can do is call the play, you have to execute it.
I don't know the man, and I don't know, you know, the full story of his evolution as a player and a coach.
What I know is, like, my snap judgment of that scene you guys showed was this job's too big for him right now.
Maybe it won't be down the road, but in this moment, the inability to keep your cool to me is very instructive.
Like I value that.
I really value folks who in crisis can be, can be the steady hand.
And I think in sports, that is super, super important.
And that's the Gannon thing that would, if I were a Cardinal fan, bother me almost as much, if not more, long long-term than the fact that he hit the player.
He's got two great shows he's doing.
The podcast, What's Right with Nick Wright, is not daily, but it is what, three, four times a week with some emergencies based on the two.
Three, and then sometimes we add another one, yeah.
And you should support it because it's fun and he does it with his son.
And a lot of people know that First Things First is hugely popular now and one of the great things in sports television because he's at the center of it.
Can you, before you get out of here, give me as many thoughts as you can on just Jacksonville and Kansas City?
Because
I think Trevor Lawrence will absolutely blow that game in the playoffs with four turnovers, and Jacksonville can't actually turn the ball over at the rate that they're doing, but you got the offense that you think is back, correct?
Okay, so a number of things.
Yes, of course, you know, Trevor Lawrence, my guy who I love, and it was kind of sad for me that this moment I couldn't really enjoy, even though I've supported him for five years because it came to the expense of my team.
And I understand the healthy skepticism of Trevor Lawrence, particularly come postseason.
He has not at all earned the benefit of the doubt, like the great Justin Herbert, who once upon a time played Trevor Lawrence in a playoff game and blew a 27-point lead.
Like, we get it.
We understand.
Certain guys have earned the benefit of the doubt.
Trevor Lawrence isn't one of them.
The guy who he beat in a playoff game, of course, is one of them for reasons.
I don't know.
Gonna be hard to blame the coach this year in Los Angeles, but I'm sure we'll find a way.
Now, to the Chiefs, this is where I'm fair.
Sometimes, like, this is so weird because I now find myself a little bit on the other side.
Because a lot of these numbers that I railed against last year when people were like, the Chiefs are the worst 5-0 team ever.
And they made me mad.
Those now same numbers are like, the Chiefs, one of the best 2-3 teams ever.
I still don't like them.
Winning football games is a skill.
And the Chiefs, while yes, the offense looks awesome again and will only look better with Rice.
That didn't really make me feel better because I knew the offense would look awesome because Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback and he has a competent offensive line this year and the receiving core is getting better.
Losing that game the way they did is so unchiefs-like.
It's the first time in five years they've lost a game.
They won the turnover battle.
They had a 14-point lead and they blew it.
They never do that.
The penalties and the special teams errors cost them the game.
I hated that loss.
That was the most frustrating regular season loss this team has had in honestly, for me, in at least three years.
And so, yes, I feel good about the fact that the offense is going to be great.
But I always believed the offense could be great.
They need to trade for a running back.
Again, I mentioned A-chan to you guys before.
Maybe Brees Hall, maybe Kamara.
I don't know if they will.
And they have to figure out a way to get pressure without having to send these huge blitzes.
With all that said, it is a very unique situation when for years it has been the AFC is the varsity and the NFC is the junior varsity when it comes to quarterbacks.
You got to go through.
This postseason is going to come around, Dan.
And Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are going to look around the AFC playoff field and see Bo Nicks and 42-year-old Aaron Rodgers and Drake May and
Daniel Jones.
And in the NFC, it's going to be playoff stud Baker Mayfield, champion Matthew Stafford, Super Bowl MVP Jalen Hurts, Super Bowl starter Jared Goff, conference championship starter Jaden Daniels, whomever else I'm forgetting or leaving out.
And so the Chiefs need to win football games, but the offense is going to be good.
I think they're going to beat Detroit.
They can't shoot themselves in the foot, but that's a bad loss.
And I'm not going to make excuses and act like it wasn't.
That's a bad loss that they shouldn't have had.
I think I'm going to beat Detroit.
Got to go on that note.
You think a lot of people think that right now?
You think that a lot of people...
The two and a half point favorites, Dan, they're at home.
They have the best player in the league.
Right now, Dano.
Right now, Dano.
How about this?
Just Chiefs lions straight up.
Set the amount.
I can do a little arbitrage with your friends at DraftKings.
Oh, I'll bet it on the other side plus the two and a half look for a little juicy middle all right let's do it let's do it right now tell me what the stakes are on this make the bet right now let's do it let's team up right here we're gonna tell me how i have to do that so that i can make the stakes something that's worth it to you i believe that detroit is gonna beat kansas city i have an idea host swap
that's right if dan loses he's got a he's got to join your show for full uh recording if you want that from your house
well maybe from your house either one of your two shows what's right or what you got going on?
Speak for yourself.
I literally mean speak for yourself because I don't know the verse.
First things first.
What you got going on?
Speak for yourself.
No, I told you.
It's like you just called Nick Bright.
Speak for yourself was literally a different show on the network.
No, I told you to speak for yourself because I forgot the name of the show.
I thought we were just doing cash money.
I say, but where do I like to go?
Tell me what you should do.
Or you fly down here and you host one of the Dan Levittar shows with Suka.
They're all putting up five, so five grand.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Really?
Yes.
5,000.
I get the Jeeps even.
It just, it just went.
Straight winner.
Yeah.
Jeeps, Lions.
Yes.
I'll give you the points.
No, no, no.
You're hairmillions.
You're such a bad negotiator.
I don't get points.
They're the favorites.
We're just doing straight winners.
Straight winners.
5K.
Yes.
Done.
You want to throw in a white Corvette?
Good luck on Cold Pizza.
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A horsey?
All right, we'll stop doing that.
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Uh, that beer sound one more time and the horse sound one more time.
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