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Speaker 10 Senator Corey Booker is going to join us here later in the show. Brooker.

Speaker 10 Brooker, as Chris Cody called him yesterday, but we let you slide on it. We didn't dine on you for an error of speech.

Speaker 9 Dan, Dan, may I give you a recommendation?

Speaker 5 This guy can talk.

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Speaker 10 Okay, so we've got to make, let's do this correctly because

Speaker 10 he did speak for 25 straight hours filibustering on the floor, and I don't want him to just take over our show and mop us all over the place because we can't shut him up.

Speaker 10 But his New York sports stink, and I want to make fun of him for that because it's a misery right now. The Yankees and Aaron Judge are saving grace on a miserable New York weekend.

Speaker 23 If you think New York is bad now, wait till this mayoral race.

Speaker 10 And when the military take over New York, too.

Speaker 25 Well, that's in their hands.

Speaker 10 Okay, thank you for nothing. Jessica's going to join us in a second, but before we do that, let's do the useless sound montage.
I've just been given it, it's freshly baked.

Speaker 10 Billy just ran it in off the presses. Billy, did you handle the editing on this?

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 26 All right, how are we doing? Sorry, it took so long, guys. I blame Eddie.
I am 100% showing up.

Speaker 27 We thought that we, you know, were prepared for this, and clearly we weren't.

Speaker 28 Definitely a lot of things happened.

Speaker 29 When you talk about game of inches, it's a game of inches.

Speaker 30 We can feel it. We know what it looks like.
We know what it feels like. And so now we gotta keep getting better.
This is what an NFL season is about.

Speaker 30 You gotta keep getting better, and more opportunities will come ahead of us.

Speaker 31 Look at the stats, the numbers don't lie.

Speaker 26 Listen, I'm not throwing any one of these guys out. The only thing that we can do is go back to work.

Speaker 32 Yeah, I think we lost the game today.

Speaker 33 Our sense of urgency and our connectedness is always there. It It obviously needs to increase because time's ticking.

Speaker 31 We believe we're going to be much better than this.

Speaker 27 We are a much better team than letting a 17-0

Speaker 26 lead eviscerate. We got to figure this out.

Speaker 35 And we got to figure this out now.

Speaker 26 You know, like this feeling sucks.

Speaker 29 It's not a good feeling.

Speaker 26 We're doing everything we can do to, you know, find solutions, not assign blame.

Speaker 28 Honestly, like, kind of zoned out. I was just trying to drink Gatorade.

Speaker 34 There's blood in the water, man. Our guys are starting to feel it, man.
They want to be the next guy who gets the punch out or the strip or the interception.

Speaker 17 And we're hunting it with the balls in the air.

Speaker 34 We're going after it.

Speaker 7 Our goal this entire week, and it's cliche and coach speak and all that, but it's how you have to work when you're in these situations: you're just trying to go one and no.

Speaker 35 We were saving that blitz for a rainy day, and we brought it out.

Speaker 2 Just guys executing, doing all the little things right.

Speaker 33 Hard to win when you turn the ball over five times and it was five consecutive drives. It was nice to look around and see everybody dancing and turning up.

Speaker 26 We got to capitalize. And when we don't, it's the NFL.

Speaker 34 We feel like there's diminishing returns every week, man.

Speaker 33 It's just a little never about one play, never about one phase. All of us collectively have to do a better job.

Speaker 32 I think we're already a tight group, but we got to get tighter as a group. And guys have got to lock in.

Speaker 27 I just thought it was a dogfight, and we were in the ring, and can't point anywhere but directly at preparation and how we execute stuff.

Speaker 31 Not a winning formula right there.

Speaker 37 We needed that last drive because the defense was tired, because we were really

Speaker 37 to start the second half on offense, and that's my fault.

Speaker 31 All the 49ers back here in the stadium and on a road game here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Yeah, they are here.

Speaker 29 You can outstat them to death, but it doesn't matter. It's a score that matters.

Speaker 30 You never know which play is going to make a difference in the game through all four quarters.

Speaker 29 Oh, much, you know, feels good, man.

Speaker 32 Feels good to get that first win.

Speaker 28 When Kyle talked to me before the game, I was like, it's time to go.

Speaker 26 So the mentality has to be, man, more TV time for us on defense.

Speaker 36 But we don't necessarily want to do that. We'd like to have 90-yard touchdowns.

Speaker 33 But until we do a better job, we're going to keep losing.

Speaker 32 See how we can do next week.

Speaker 31 We'll start all over again.

Speaker 34 Once again, the best thing we did, we played complimentary football.

Speaker 30 In the end, it was complimentary football to won us again.

Speaker 31 Just not enough complimentary football.

Speaker 35 He's just one of them guys. He has the entire makeup and the entire pack.

Speaker 26 You've got to watch the film, and the film will tell the truth.

Speaker 37 These guys love playing football together. They believe in one another.
We expect to play well.

Speaker 28 We don't always. Kyle came up to me and he was pissed about it.

Speaker 28 He was pissed about it. I was like, Yeah, I'm pissed too.
He's like, dude, I can't believe they moved us to underdogs again or whatever more.

Speaker 28 And I'm like, I don't know what that means, really, but like, yeah, let's go kill him. You know, I get my days messed up because we had a short week, but like, whatever our Wednesday was.

Speaker 13 What a magical batch of useless Billy Mac Jones.

Speaker 10 I mean, Mac Jones is a new star with his giggle, his laugh. Mike, why did you whisper to me that you're a big fan of complimentary football?

Speaker 38 I love complimentary football so much.

Speaker 40 It makes sense. You got, well, forget all three phases.

Speaker 40 I love all three phases, too.

Speaker 42 But complimentary football is like, I know it's a cliche, but you have an offense that complements the defense. You keep the defense fresh.
That's how you get Ruben Bain playing 77 snaps.

Speaker 17 I mean, complimentary football is the best.

Speaker 10 I want to talk to Jessica about Miami. I do want to talk about Mike McDaniel saying eviscerates a 17-0 lead.
That must bother Greg Cody as someone who just values words, right?

Speaker 10 Your coach has to get the words right in the press conference.

Speaker 43 I think so, yeah.

Speaker 44 Eviscerate to me sounds like you're disemboweling something.

Speaker 10 But evaporate is what he meant, right? I think so. Did it bother you or no? Like, he can't make a mistake like that.
He can't make these little mistakes anymore, right?

Speaker 10 We're not finding him cute anymore.

Speaker 44 Well, he's not cute, and he's stammering. He's stumbling.
His presentation has not been good. I don't know what's going on, but I think he's really feeling the weight right now.

Speaker 10 All right. Let's get to Jess here.
Mike, did you, before we get started here, did you, you had very strong Arch Manning opinions before the show.

Speaker 42 Yeah, actually, I want to run this by Jess.

Speaker 45 So, Jess, I'm buying all the Arch Manning stock.

Speaker 45 I heard a stat that against Florida and Ohio State, he's been pressured on about 38 of 75 drop backs.

Speaker 15 And I know that he missed some throws primarily because of the pressure that Florida's amazing defensive line applied, but he also made incredible throws.

Speaker 41 He evaded pressure in ways that certainly do not match that surname.

Speaker 3 And I think we've come out on the other side here that maybe he's a little underrated at the moment.

Speaker 41 And because of all the fanfare and hoopla that he got with the Heisman hype at the start of the season, people are incorrectly placing the blame on his shoulders.

Speaker 42 It's that offensive line.

Speaker 23 It's the fact that they don't,

Speaker 41 they're the Texas Longhorns with unlimited resources and they're not top 50 in the nation in rushing.

Speaker 23 This goes well beyond Arch Manning.

Speaker 12 He's probably the least of their issues.

Speaker 48 Well, I do think if he were really great, he would probably look better than he's looked. But yes, I agree with your point.
He's not the only problem with Texas's offense.

Speaker 48 I think the things you pointed out are definitely true, Mike. But the problem is that they they haven't, like, he hasn't even looked amazing against like the bad defenses they've played.

Speaker 48 This was the test, right? The Florida defense was ranked, I think, top 25 before the season started

Speaker 48 in like defensive FEI. And so after the Ohio State game, I was like, okay, well, let's see how he does in these next three games because they're playing some truly like bottom tier defenses.

Speaker 48 And like the offense still wasn't good. And he still wasn't amazing.
He wasn't showing this kind of thing you would expect from someone who is as old as he is now.

Speaker 48 I think like one thing Mike that no one's really wants to admit is that he's not a freshman. He's not even a redshirt freshman.
Like he's he played a couple games last year.

Speaker 48 He's been around the program long enough that like you kind of do expect better. And I agree like the expectations were absurd and that comes with the territory of the last name.

Speaker 48 But he's still like even if you take the expectations away just being a quarterback at Texas, it's not good enough. Like he's not playing well enough right now.

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Speaker 48 Shirt, if I may say for a second, Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 48 And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Mett in my face, Mike Shirt.

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Speaker 10 Greg, you had some Belichick opinions. The Hulu series got canceled.
I guess this isn't surprising, right?

Speaker 10 Both documentary projects that Belichick was going to do have collapsed for different reasons. I think one can assume reasonably that the team is so bad that they wouldn't want any of this publicized.

Speaker 10 Get inside this, it would require disinfectant. That's how everyone's receiving this, I would imagine.

Speaker 44 Yeah, yeah, I think so. But Belichick involves himself so much in pettiness, and I don't want to blame his girlfriend, her influence, but the latest example is.

Speaker 44 No, no. The latest example is: Belichick did not want UNC to air a video in praise of alum Drake May because he's doing so well with the Patriots.
Belichick did not want that.

Speaker 44 And that just strikes me. He's got so much on his plate right now, including a really bad team.

Speaker 44 Why are you involving yourself in ancillary stuff like that because you still have a feud with Robert Kraft? It seems ridiculous.

Speaker 48 Well, it's not even the only time that his Patriots feud has appeared this season, Greg.

Speaker 48 He confirmed earlier this year that Patriots scouts weren't allowed at North Carolina because he's not allowed in Foxborough. So the pettiness, I mean, it runs very deep.

Speaker 48 And Dan, the thing about the Hulu docuseries, from

Speaker 48 what I'm guessing is that the Hard Knocks series was scrapped because Hulu, this production company, came in and was like, we'll give you more money or whatever it was.

Speaker 48 So there must have been some sort of like bidding war.

Speaker 42 I'm purely speculating.

Speaker 17 Well, hold on a second. Let me wait.

Speaker 22 Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 48 It's not important enough.

Speaker 20 Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.
You're good.

Speaker 12 Who's kicking dogs?

Speaker 53 What does that mean?

Speaker 15 Jonathan Gannon in the previous season.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I recklessly speculated.

Speaker 41 Big dog kicker energy.

Speaker 48 Oh, that's terrible.

Speaker 48 I don't know. I'm assuming, Dan, that the HBO thing didn't get scrapped for reasons other than like a lot of companies probably wanted to film this historic UNC season.

Speaker 48 The problem is it's historic for all the wrong reasons. That article that came out in WRAL

Speaker 48 on Tuesday, I believe, was very insightful, very interesting. There was a lot of takeaways from that.

Speaker 48 Belichick apparently having preferential treatment towards players that he brought into the team, poor communication, dysfunctional environment,

Speaker 48 a lot of criticism of the staff that they put together and the lack of experience. And also, you know, the fact that there's several sons of Lombardy and Belichick on the staff.

Speaker 48 work hard um the banning of the patriot scouts uh they also said that like michael lombardi this is from the article that he was no one likes him and that he's rude and nasty which was pretty strong words i thought um that the travel roster is not allowed to dress for home games which kind of bucks tradition and then there was more fallout after the fact uh the uh cornerbacks coach Armand Hawkins was suspended because of something that came up in the report involving like sideline passes for family members of teammates.

Speaker 48 So, I mean, just a huge disaster. And honestly, before the season, I thought

Speaker 48 this could go two ways. This could be like a competent football team with a relatively easy ACC schedule surprises people, or it could be a disaster.
It has been

Speaker 14 such a disaster.

Speaker 55 Like worse than anyone. Holy cow.

Speaker 10 Worse than anyone could have imagined, right? You're reading. Why is that story not getting more attention? Obviously, the details here are fairly vigorously reported and we're getting a look inside.

Speaker 10 They were going to do a docuseries on what they thought was going to be a success. Instead, now they refuse to televise the public shaming of a legend unlike any we've ever seen in football

Speaker 10 before. So they're not going to get to rewrite the story, are they?

Speaker 10 Like, they've befouled this program, and they thought with their champion patriot arrogance that him and Lombardi would know better than these other people.

Speaker 17 And no, they don't.

Speaker 48 Here's another quote, Dan, that came from Bruce Feldman and Ralph Russo in the athletic. This is from a story that came out before the Clemson game this past weekend, I believe.

Speaker 48 It says, quote, what I think they miscalculated is the way they were taking players in the portal and paying dudes, said one group of five head coach granted anonymity to discuss his encounters with the Tar Heels in the offseason player acquisition cycle.

Speaker 48 Quote, it made me wonder, did they actually understand the landscape they were in? Did they understand that they're in the ACC, not like Conference USA or the Sun Belt?

Speaker 48 Like, we got beat by North Carolina on a bunch of kids. I was like, why the F is North Carolina beating us on kids?

Speaker 48 When I keep running up against the same P4s over and over again in recruiting, I'm like, all right, they're going to suck.

Speaker 40 That's a crazy quote from the athletic.

Speaker 10 That story's crazy, but I guess the insides, I mean, people aren't going to be, their season's over. Is the experiment over? Like, are we going to...
Yeah.

Speaker 48 I mean, the experiment was over when Charlie Weiss got fired from Notre Dame.

Speaker 17 Like,

Speaker 48 that was when we realized, okay, like NFL coach comes in, thinks he can, like, recruit, which Charlie Weiss, to his credit, actually, very good recruiter, but wasn't a good college, couldn't run a college football program, clearly.

Speaker 48 Got paid a jillion dollars on his buyout and left. And then we did it again with the same, the same NFL franchise, the Patriots.
We just did it with a different Patriots coach.

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Speaker 10 Unfortunately, the Fighting Irish are going to be good again, and they're going to.

Speaker 48 We'll see. I did make a grave error this weekend in my off-roading trip with Lucy.
You guys all know what Lucy's favorite movie is, right?

Speaker 25 Yeah, totally. But for those that don't know,

Speaker 17 I don't remember.

Speaker 55 I don't remember this.

Speaker 10 We should know this.

Speaker 55 We should know this.

Speaker 17 Which one was Lucy?

Speaker 48 We should know this. She talks about it all the time.
Her favorite movie.

Speaker 25 She's almost famous, right?

Speaker 38 I don't remember. Oh, my God.

Speaker 48 Okay, it's Shrek. It's Shrek.

Speaker 48 And what I failed to mention to Lucy while we were at Notre Dame is that a bunch of Notre Dame people worked on the film Shrek, and there's a bunch of Notre Dame Easter eggs in Shrek.

Speaker 48 And she would have really really enjoyed that I think and I forgot to tell her that and I didn't think about it until this morning somehow and I just feel like the world's biggest asshole for not remembering that Shrek Notre Dame connection with Lucy.

Speaker 10 You had fun. It seemed like you were really, it seemed like you were enjoying, Lucy hadn't been before, right?

Speaker 10 So she wouldn't actually understand how ridiculous the majesty of that place is when you've bought in on all of the Catholicism.

Speaker 48 Yes, whatever that means, she definitely wouldn't understand that.

Speaker 48 No, we had a great time, Dan. My only complaint, it was like the hottest October football game in South Bend on record, which kind of alarming.
It was really, really, really hot.

Speaker 48 But we, yeah, we had a good time. I don't know.
I think Notre Dame's defense is playing a lot better, but I do think NC State's got a fun offense.

Speaker 48 They play them on Saturday, kind of an awkward look-ahead spot, and then they play USC the following weekend.

Speaker 48 USC, obviously, statistically, the best offense currently in college football and EPA per play. So, big test for the defense coming up for the Irish.

Speaker 50 I don't even know my own favorite movie.

Speaker 57 Yeah,

Speaker 17 I'm trying to think.

Speaker 25 I guess you do.

Speaker 9 I'm trying to think if I know anybody's favorite movie.

Speaker 48 Is this supposed to cover for the fact that you don't know Lucy?

Speaker 17 I'm embarrassed. I don't know.
No one knows Lucy.

Speaker 55 But I don't know anybody.

Speaker 10 He just quizzed us on friendship and we all failed.

Speaker 17 Yeah, but I really thought it was almost Lucy. What's dad's favorite? Because I've never heard her mention Shrek.

Speaker 19 Oh my God, you've never heard her mention Shrek.

Speaker 23 No, you haven't clearly ever

Speaker 38 spoken to Lucy?

Speaker 22 What an odd favorite movie?

Speaker 38 Shrek. Greg.
Odd favorite movie.

Speaker 25 What's yours? Who's your tune?

Speaker 40 Who's your October Heisman?

Speaker 48 I got three people on the watch list currently, Mike. Number one, Ahmad Hardy, Missouri running back.
Great back.

Speaker 48 He leads college football in rushing right now.

Speaker 48 And he's playing against another nominee, Ty Simpson, who had a great game against Vanderbilt through an interception, but he had 340 yards on 74% completion for two touchdowns.

Speaker 48 So they're playing against each other this weekend. That's going to be a big SEC road game for Alabama going to Missouri.

Speaker 48 Gonna have to deal with that run game, but also I think if Alabama can get out to an early lead, it's,

Speaker 48 I think that's the recipe right there. Like, I think it's going to be hard for Missouri to come back in that case.

Speaker 48 And then Bear Bachmeier, the BYU quarterback, has also had a sneaky good fall so far and also had a great game Friday night against West Virginia, 350 yards, 72% completions, one touchdown, one interception.

Speaker 48 BYU is like currently in first place in the Big 12. They've only played two conference games so far.
Texas Tech also undefeated right now. Lead the nation in stop rate on defense, which is huge.

Speaker 48 There's a lot of crazy

Speaker 17 stuff going on. Yeah, Chris, I live in New York.
You're going to hear sirens.

Speaker 48 I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 17 You can't say something every time.

Speaker 25 Tanks rolling through town.

Speaker 17 We record.

Speaker 48 But anyways, I want to talk about two Big Ten games this weekend, Mike.

Speaker 25 Indiana at Oregon.

Speaker 17 Oh, put the kids in bed.

Speaker 48 Huge, huge game. I think it's an early kickoff, isn't it? At 3:30?

Speaker 17 Well, they should be in bed at 3:30.

Speaker 38 It might be at 7:30.

Speaker 48 And then Michigan at USC, which is the kind of perfect test for Lincoln Rock. People wrote off USC after the Illinois loss.
I get it. It was a really ugly, really ugly loss for USC.

Speaker 48 But I do think if they can exercise some demons, if they're able to beat Michigan this weekend, because this is typically a game that they struggle with, and Michigan's got a good run game.

Speaker 48 But it's a real game for Michigan. And, of course,

Speaker 48 long travel, we saw how that worked out for Penn State last weekend. So I'm going to keep my eye on those two for sure.

Speaker 10 What's your favorite movie, Greg? I don't know. I've been friends with you for years.

Speaker 10 i don't know what your favorite movie everybody knows that is it absence of malice no the wizard of oz baby oh come on everyone knows what

Speaker 44 everyone knows that yeah like the original yeah of course the original that's your favorite movie hell yes you ever watched it yeah oh my that was an historic movie that went from black and white to color in the middle of the movie technicolor revealed itself alive back in my day give him his back in my day music we're gonna get alive back in my day day.

Speaker 55 Seriously.

Speaker 38 I mean, what's

Speaker 38 the Wizard of Oz?

Speaker 48 Sure. Do you guys know my favorite movie?

Speaker 17 Judy Garland.

Speaker 25 I mean, Rudy, Shrek, right?

Speaker 1 You just told us.

Speaker 48 God, you guys are so, like, you're just bad co-workers. Like you're bad ones.

Speaker 17 What's my favorite movie?

Speaker 25 What's my favorite movie, Jess?

Speaker 48 What, that stupid point break one? No.

Speaker 42 No, that's top three, but it's not number one. No, that's top ten, but that's not a number one.

Speaker 48 Okay, well, I named two of your top ten. That's better than you could do for me.

Speaker 40 I said Rudy. That's got to be in your top ten.

Speaker 25 Dark Knight Rises?

Speaker 44 What is yours, Jess? What is your favorite movie?

Speaker 48 movie the lord of the rings the two towers and also caddyshack and ladybird i would have taken any of those can't have a tie can't have a tie it's not a tie i'm saying i would have given you some grace anyways dan already left so this segment's over bye guys

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Speaker 20 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 17 Did we someone say conservative entity?

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Speaker 10 He's the former mayor of Newark from 2006 to 2013. He's now the senior senator from New Jersey, Corey Booker, with us.
He's coming from a vote. There was a vote, and he's rushing in from a vote.

Speaker 10 And his sports teams stink, all of them, up and down.

Speaker 10 And the Yankees, the Yankees saved you from terrible shame today, right? Like you weren't even, you weren't going to come out in public given what your sports teams did this weekend.

Speaker 57 I, you know, I grew up in the golden era to be a Jersey boy, Northern Jersey boy with the Yankees.

Speaker 57 These were the days of Thurman Munson, Chris Chambliss, with Reggie Jackson, Greg Nettles, and then the Giants.

Speaker 57 I don't know why you didn't announce this in my bio, but you're talking to the 1986 Giants Football High School Football Player of the Year.

Speaker 57 So the Giants

Speaker 57 beat the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 57 So I grew up in the heyday of New York sports, and now I'm in a constant state of depression. And to make matters worse, my Stanford Cardinal,

Speaker 57 Stanford football team, now in the ACC, which is ridiculous, they too are getting their

Speaker 57 having a difficult rebuilding year, let's say.

Speaker 10 Oh, say it stronger than that.

Speaker 17 These are not polite times.

Speaker 25 Like you said, come on, man.

Speaker 10 Come on. In 1990, you were at the center of upsetting number one Notre Dame.
You were the tight end on that. You were the tight end on that team.
You had four catches for 40-something yards.

Speaker 57 First of all, don't you, how could you slander me like that? The older I get, the better I was. Every five years, I add a catch.
So you got to put a, you got to stack a few more on there, man.

Speaker 57 Come on, I'm an old man now. Let me have some glory, baby.

Speaker 10 Well, so answer me this, actually, in physical terms.

Speaker 10 Which hurts the body more, those four catches in that game or 25-hour filibuster where you feel like you're fighting on behalf of democracy and you're just stalling.

Speaker 57 Dear God, the average middle-aged man gets up like five times in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. I didn't go to the bathroom for 25 hours.

Speaker 57 That was so much harder than anything I did on the Sanford football field.

Speaker 57 So yeah, it was much more of a test for me out of shape in my middle-aged years.

Speaker 10 Billy, why are you making faces you don't believe the senator?

Speaker 50 I mean, Corey, if you're getting up five times a night, I feel like you got to see a doctor.

Speaker 56 That's

Speaker 57 okay. A little exaggeration, but the truth of the matter is

Speaker 57 my aura rang said I walked 2,000 steps, just sort of swaying back and forth. My body was pretty sore.

Speaker 57 But everybody on this show, and frankly, your listeners know that I may have stood 25 hours on the Senate floor, but a lot of Americans are out there

Speaker 57 standing for three shifts in a row. There are firefighters dropped into blazes that stand for 18, 20 hours facing the infernos of hell.

Speaker 57 America stands up and for the fight that I was standing up for that.

Speaker 10 Billy, why did you say here we go?

Speaker 41 Why do you happy with yourself?

Speaker 42 Way to speak truth to power.

Speaker 16 Well, I mean, that's how we're going to hold the politicians accountable.

Speaker 17 You don't go to the bathroom for a while.

Speaker 50 If we're going to be honest here, you guys are tiptoeing around the senator here. You guys may be afraid to ask him the hard-hitting questions.

Speaker 50 I mean, he has been in power in one of the more, obviously, infamous epidemics in our time. And I'm kind of wondering, what are you going to do about the turf at Met Life?

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 57 Again, I'm going to sound like the old man that used to play. You know what the turf was like when I was playing?

Speaker 57 I still remember going up to Oregon State to play them, and it was like they just painted the concrete concrete green. And forget when I was hit, when I hit the,

Speaker 57 when I was tackled, the hit didn't hurt. Hitting the ground hurt.
I mean, your joints were aching afterwards. So I understand this modern turf, when I get out on it, it is

Speaker 57 far different than what we were playing back in the days that I wanted to

Speaker 57 take the inventor of Astro Turf and slam him on his Astro turf.

Speaker 57 But the reality is

Speaker 57 our turf seems very unlucky at midnight uh

Speaker 57 sorry i'm sorry uh but now we got you know we got saquan coming back to the turf that took him down and i'm hoping that uh thursday night you know we got two shots at the eagles and uh i believe in miracles i'm a prisoner of hope okay well then help us during these times because we've softened you up sufficiently sufficiently with the silly question who's the leader of the democratic party uh there is no singular leader of the democratic party and frankly, as I said during that 25 hours, I think the Democratic Party has to take a lot of responsibility right now for paving the road to the distorted present we're in right now.

Speaker 57 Democratic Party has failed, not just in elections, but in communicating to voters.

Speaker 57 My grandfather, who was a UAW worker, worked on assembly lines during World War II, was born a Republican, as most blacks were at that time.

Speaker 57 But he switched over to the Democratic Party because he knew that they were fighting for people, from farmers to union workers, for people's health care

Speaker 57 to their labor rights.

Speaker 57 He knew that the Democratic Party may not always agree with him. They were fighting for them.
And right now, Americans don't believe either party is fighting for them.

Speaker 57 To be honest with you, we had two presidential candidates in the last election that most Americans voted against. Donald Trump got 49.7%.
Kamala Harris got 49.3%.

Speaker 57 The Democratic Party needs a reboot. and it needs to put forward a vision, not about what they're against, but we need to start talking about what we're for.
We're for workers.

Speaker 57 We're for families that are struggling to raise their kids right now. And we're for, frankly, an American dream that is under

Speaker 57 its worst assault, where 60% of Americans just don't believe that they can make it through an economic emergency, hitting $500 to their budget.

Speaker 57 We need a Democratic Party that can redeem the dream for America and be about Americans.

Speaker 57 And this place that I'm in right now, from politicians who trade stocks, which is so corrupt in my opinion, to the corporate money that flows down here.

Speaker 57 That's why I'm one of the few politicians, few senators that doesn't take corporate PACs. There's a lot of things here that are eroding Americans' trust, and both parties

Speaker 57 are losing it and need to earn it again.

Speaker 10 Most embarrassing New York team this weekend.

Speaker 57 This past weekend?

Speaker 25 Yes. You're getting

Speaker 57 coming up.

Speaker 56 I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 10 The Yankees allowed 23 runs.

Speaker 10 20 unanswered in a series.

Speaker 10 And your Jets exist.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 57 I respect the Jets, but I'm not a Jet fan.

Speaker 57 And what happened with

Speaker 57 the Giants game was

Speaker 57 the turnovers, everything was just painful.

Speaker 10 Ask him the tough follow-up.

Speaker 50 What on earth have the Jets done to earn you?

Speaker 10 Why do you respect the Jets?

Speaker 51 Why would you respect them?

Speaker 1 Come on. Come on, Joe.

Speaker 22 You're not the mayor of Newark anymore.

Speaker 17 It's fine.

Speaker 38 Say exactly what it is.

Speaker 51 Jets suck. The players are sucking.

Speaker 57 You know why I respect the Jets? Because I live in an area with a lot of Jet fans who are not fair weather fans.

Speaker 56 That's the pylon.

Speaker 57 they are jets jets jets jets i hear them freaking break listen there's no hope and change in the jets jets jets jets i'll say that right now you cannot respect the jets you're lying to our faces senator listen you can't be trusted oh screw you guys i live in new jersey both of those teams the jets and the giants are jersey teams they're my mishbucha they're my family i i stand with my people and you could you could diss them all you want look i was the mayor of newark new jersey the most disrespected city people also talked down to us we had a chip on our shoulder.

Speaker 57 We had something to prove. Same way with Jersey.
I mean, the freaking New Yorkers take all of our shine. They're trying to, I'll give you an example.

Speaker 57 The great song that they sang, New York, New York, that was the chairman of the board, Old Blue Eyes. He's a Jersey boy.
He was born in Hobo. Newark, Newark before.

Speaker 57 It was, you know, Newark. If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
And I'm going to tell you right now, Jersey is the place. Our patron saints like Bon Jovi and Bruce,

Speaker 57 America loves them.

Speaker 10 You don't respect them, Senator. You're out here disrespecting me.
My face. You're lying to my face as an American power broker telling me you respect the Jets.
You cannot. They're 0-5.

Speaker 10 13 missed tackles in the first half. And the team that lost the Dolphins down here, that's one of the worst football games I've ever seen played by something that's allegedly professional.

Speaker 23 You're a con artist.

Speaker 57 So when your friend, when your friend

Speaker 57 has a crappy time, makes mistakes, screws up, you give up on your, you lose respect.

Speaker 10 The last three coaches are 0-3.

Speaker 57 It's not my friend it and the friends aren't the problem it's the team senator you're lying to us i'm sorry brother they bring literally millions of dollars of economic activity to the state of new jersey i i am not going to disrespect the teams that play in my state that fight for my state from the devils uh to the giants we are we are that region's the the greater newark metropolitan area we are that region's powerhouse i respect my teams and you know what i don't respect is the nets oh the nets

Speaker 56 The Nets need to come back to Jersey.

Speaker 57 They snuck in. While I was mayor, they snuck in and stole my team and took it into obscurity over in New York.
They need to come back to Jersey and be Jersey's team. They'll do a lot better.

Speaker 57 They'll perform a lot better being home.

Speaker 10 I'm told you have a top five list for us. This delights me.
Thank you for honoring us by putting together a list during these busy, difficult times. Well,

Speaker 57 I want to throw a couple curveballs your way. So my top five is the top five successful

Speaker 57 quarterbacks from stanford university and and the first one hold on hold on hold on but i you got to play it right we've got andrew luck

Speaker 10 yes we've got andrew luck here with us but the top five has to go from fifth to number one so that we get the big payoff at the end

Speaker 57 i'm i'm going to fifth to number one so number five quarterbacks from stanford is a guy that played for tampa bay his name is john lynch

Speaker 57 he came to Stanford as a quarterback. I caught passes from him before he was switched to defensive back to be the superstar he is.

Speaker 57 And then the next, number one draft pick way back in the 1950s, when you just were a sparkle in your mama's eye, was a guy named John Brody, extraordinary professional.

Speaker 44 Oh, yeah, 49ers.

Speaker 57 Number three, Heisman Trophy, Lombardi Trophy a winner. This is one of the greatest of all time greats, Jim Plunkett.

Speaker 57 Number, number the next these are two.

Speaker 10 These are the two big ones right here.

Speaker 57 Yeah, the big two, the big two, the number two is a person that you might have thought was number one, but number two is John Elwood.

Speaker 7 Oh my God, blasphemous senator.

Speaker 10 This blasphemous senator is going to say that you, Andrew Luck, are the greatest Stanford quarterback he's ever seen.

Speaker 57 I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to make my case here.
I said most successful. Not in the NFL.
He was one of the top easily, unequivocally, unassailably.

Speaker 57 Andrew Luck was one of the top quarterbacks of all time in his playing days. But what Andrew Luck has just done is he brought luck back to Stanford.

Speaker 56 He's still.

Speaker 57 He is the guy. He is the guy that comes back home.
He could have done a lot of things, but he came back home to serve the greatest university on the planet.

Speaker 57 And with him, Stanford's going to get luck again. And we got winning days ahead of us.

Speaker 54 Beautiful list, Senator.

Speaker 24 And by the way, congratulations on your betrothal.

Speaker 41 I'm so happy.

Speaker 54 beautiful, beautiful couple.

Speaker 6 You are my favorite Stanford tight end.

Speaker 23 Probably favorite tight end ever outside of Jack Doyle.

Speaker 57 Thank you. Well, there were two tight ends that got engaged in that summer season.

Speaker 57 The other guy, you probably didn't heard about it, Travis,

Speaker 57 but another tight end who, in his own mind, has similar tight end glory. So I appreciate that.

Speaker 43 Beautiful ring, family heirloom.

Speaker 57 You know what's, this is probably too much information. My fiancé is going to kill me.

Speaker 57 The ring I got her was a sort of a place saver because I don't know anything about jewelry. So I said, let me get you a beautiful ring that I like as a placeholder.

Speaker 57 We are right now shopping for the actual permanent engagement ring.

Speaker 15 I notice in your reflection, you have quite the library, including one of those ladders that Bell had in Beauty and the Beast.

Speaker 15 Have you ever just tried to do the bell move and just go from one end to another with your arms extended?

Speaker 57 I could never neither confirm or deny that.

Speaker 17 Can you do that for us?

Speaker 39 Everyone does that when they have the bell ladder from Beauty and the Beast.

Speaker 56 I am telling you,

Speaker 57 it's one of my favorite features in this office: my ladder.

Speaker 57 So, yes, I have done things on that ladder that I do not want to make public. Hell yeah.

Speaker 24 Look at that.

Speaker 10 Can you give us more seriously your thoughts on the alarms of the day when I say that Trump yesterday is commenting that he's essentially backing a White House memo that some furloughed federal employees aren't entitled to back pay?

Speaker 24 Like,

Speaker 10 where does that rank on the alarms of the day? And what vote are you coming back from right now?

Speaker 57 So, two things one is uh that's illegal he signed a bill that basically uh uh guaranteed made it the law that people government workers is the government worker protection act i think is the name of it is a government government workers uh

Speaker 57 um uh my staff is just yelling at me it's the government workers fair treatment act they're saying uh but the reality is it's the law you have to give back pay so Donald Trump, I've never seen a guy that literally is telling us he wants to inflict maximum pain in this shutdown, not on Democrats, on American people.

Speaker 57 He is coming after departments. He's going to try to make as much pain happen to others in hopes that he can make us capitulate.

Speaker 57 But the pain that we're fighting to prevent is a twin tsunami of the healthcare crisis he's bringing about because one, by giving millionaires billions of dollars worth of tax cuts, he gutted Medicaid.

Speaker 57 So millions are going to lose health care there. And then two, as he said in Project 2025, he wants to gut the Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 57 So he's taking away the premium assistance and that's going to send another 10 to 20 million people off their health care.

Speaker 57 And overall, Americans in general are going to see their premiums skyrocket at a time that they're seeing their grocery prices, the energy prices. So that tsunami is coming.

Speaker 57 It starts in 2006 in a couple months. And Democrats are just saying, do not hurt people like this because it's not going to just hurt the people who are losing their health care.

Speaker 57 It's not just going to hurt the millions of Americans who are going to have their premiums go up. About 20 million Americans see them more than double.

Speaker 57 It's going to hurt all of us because our healthcare institutions, our hospitals and our clinics are gonna see closures, gonna see longer wait times, more crowded emergency rooms.

Speaker 57 This is the worst tsunami coming towards Americans' healthcare ever.

Speaker 57 There's never been a point in American history where if we don't do something, this many millions of Americans will lose their health care. So I'm sorry.

Speaker 57 This is where I get really angry because I just talked to a New Jerseyan yesterday.

Speaker 57 She's a mom who had a great job making six figures, but she had an autistic child that needed really expensive expensive care.

Speaker 57 So she left her job, doing some consulting, making about $30,000 a year to take care of her special needs child.

Speaker 57 And she told me there's just no way when these premiums skyrocket that she could afford health insurance and still pay rent.

Speaker 57 Well, repeat that story tens of thousands of more times up and down my state. I'm hearing them.
And so this is a fight for New Jersey. And here's the crazy thing.

Speaker 57 Donald Trump controls the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives, who right now are on vacation.

Speaker 57 The Speaker of the House hasn't even brought them back to sit at the table to negotiate.

Speaker 57 He said himself years ago that it is the president's responsibility to bring parties together to get a budget passed. But he doesn't want to negotiate.

Speaker 57 He doesn't want to do something in a bipartisan way that addresses people's pain.

Speaker 57 He right now is just doing nothing but threatening Americans, threatening to cause pain, threatening not to pay government workers who are in our military or or who are work in our veterans agencies.

Speaker 57 This is ridiculous. If there's anything that our leaders should do, screw the politics.
Just try to help people deal with the pain that they're experiencing in their lives.

Speaker 15 That's illegal is a response that we often hear from Democrats, and yet the president keeps pushing on.

Speaker 15 In fact, very recently, he just called for the arrest of the governor of Illinois and Chicago's mayor. And

Speaker 45 it's a scary time.

Speaker 15 Most Americans would acknowledge, if you look at polling, that there is an abuse of power going on here.

Speaker 15 What guarantees can you give to the American people that the American Republic will stand, that you can push back on some of these illegalities as people from the White House are talking about plenary power?

Speaker 57 Yeah, so this isn't the first time in our history that demagogues and want to be dictators have risen up. I mean, dear God, go back to the McCarthy era, go back to

Speaker 57 George Wallace from that high office of the governor's mansion saying he was going to not obey the law. We are a nation that has seen dark moments and dangerous demagogues rise up.

Speaker 57 And the thing that has pulled them back every single time is Americans saying enough is enough. I'm not going to allow this to happen.

Speaker 57 It is a violation of our decency, of our value, of our shared ideals.

Speaker 57 I'm sorry, what is going on in our country is outrageous and should outrage everyone, making law firms and businesses and TV networks heel to the president's will.

Speaker 57 making Americans who enjoy due process rights have them stripped away, treating families, American children with one undocumented parent, having that parent dragged out of a school or a courthouse who's done nothing wrong but be here in an undocumented manner.

Speaker 57 And yeah, the polls are going down. Donald Trump is underwater on his immigration enforcement, underwater on his handling of the economy because he is craven, cruel, and corrupt.

Speaker 57 But that is not, this is not about him. When things like this are happening, it's a test of us.
How much will we tolerate? How much will we endure?

Speaker 57 The very idea of patriotism is not just love of country. You can't love your country unless you love your fellow countrymen and women.
And love means sacrifice.

Speaker 57 And so, yeah, you may not be losing your health insurance, but your neighbor is.

Speaker 57 You may not be seeing your parent be dragged away and your American child being put in zip ties like they were doing in Chicago, but that's your neighbor.

Speaker 57 Every one of our faiths says love your neighbor. Well, how deep is your love? How strong is your love? What are you willing to do? This is a time to stand up and say enough is enough.

Speaker 57 And in his first term, where he wasn't doing things this extreme, but he was still trying to gut the health care of tens of millions of Americans, Washington, D.C.

Speaker 57 was full of folk who understood it's not just congresspeople and senators that have to stand up. I do too.
Little kids in wheelchairs

Speaker 57 with disabilities were rolling up to senators in nonviolent ways, making them look them in the eye and say, why are you doing this to Americans? And thank God John McCain.

Speaker 57 and other Republicans like Susan Murkowski, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski didn't let Donald Trump take away health care from 20 plus million Americans. Well,

Speaker 57 this crop of Republicans did. They let him attack Medicaid like that.
But now, what's the response of us? This is an American test. Will you stand up for your neighbor?

Speaker 57 Will you stand up for our shared values? Will you stand up as he's arresting his enemies and weaponizing the Justice Department, violating our values? Will you stand? Well, I...

Speaker 57 will stand up and I'm hoping more and more people will stand with me and fight.

Speaker 10 You don't respect the Jets. I don't believe you.
Thank you. We appreciate your time.

Speaker 10 Thank you for the work that you do, sir.

Speaker 57 I appreciate you all. Thank you.
Hey, can I just say this?

Speaker 57 I told you that my parents come from the civil rights tradition. Well, sports was the one area that brought this country together.
And even folks, and I've talked to Bill Bradley about this.

Speaker 57 It forces you. In my Stanford locker room, I had black folks, white folks.
I had Republicans and Democrats.

Speaker 57 But when you sweat together and bleed together, you realize that the lines that divide us are nowhere near as strong as the ties that bind us. We are one team in this country.

Speaker 57 And the division and the divide, I used to know when we were going to score a touchdown when I was in the offensive huddle.

Speaker 57 It was when I heard the defensive huddle attacking each other, putting players down, jumping on each other. When they started fighting amongst themselves, I knew we would score.

Speaker 57 We need folks that are going to remind us that we're one team. Sports is a venue that everybody listens.
More people listen to a podcast like this than a political podcast. And I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 57 That's a great platform where we can talk about uh our country and you reminding us that even though some of us respect the jets we're still one country one you don't respect the jets you know you're lying to my people thank you i appreciate your time senator all right thanks everybody

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