The Big Suey: ...How IS Dan? (feat. Domonique Foxworth)

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I need everybody to know here that if you love Ron McGill and you want to support the things that he is doing, he's got a big event at Zoo Miami.

He's winding down his career at Zoo Miami.

There's not going to be a lot of time left there.

That's breaking news.

There's enough going on this week.

I don't need that to come on.

Is he okay?

Oh, my God, he knows.

I'm not breaking news here.

He's just in his 60s.

Oh, well, he'll live a long time.

I mean, the government's in bad shape, and government workers are having a hard time at the moment.

And so

Ron's okay, though.

Wait, so he's dying or he's fired.

Well, this happens to me all the time when I say goodbye.

This happened to me yesterday when I was saying goodbye to you.

People thought that you were dying as well at the beginning of that.

This happens to me every time I say anything like this.

I'm not breaking news when I tell you that he's got a Halloween party, and I don't know how many more of these he's going to be doing at Zoo Miami.

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Is this like an upside-down pineapple situation?

What do we got here?

Maybe.

We all agree that this is Derek Zulander, right?

Yes.

Like they just Photoshopped a picture of Zulander a little bit.

That's blue steel.

He's not an ambienter, right?

So that's why he's turning his left right here.

Dominique Foxworth is waiting for us in the Zoom.

I thought Billy was going to speak there, but Billy, as you know, does

what he wants to do.

No, no, we're talking to him.

He was, you were just trying to figure it, because you again said after we were trying to clarify, you know, this might be the last one he does.

And we're like, well, because he's sick, he's dying.

Government.

Yeah, what's happening?

He's just old.

He's not that old.

Look, this is a day for celebration of old people.

I'm going to give you guys some stats from Optistats.

Thursday marked the first time ever that a 40-year-old starting pitcher won a major league baseball postseason game while a 40-year-old starting quarterback won on the NFL in the same day.

This also from Optistats.

There's been one game in the history of the NFL where both quarterbacks completed 65% of their passes, threw for three touchdowns, had a 100-plus passer rating, threw a 25-yard TD bass, and erased a double-digit deficit.

That game occurred last night between two 40-year-old quarterbacks.

Ron is 25 years older than the oldest people in sports.

Ron is toward the end

of his life and career.

He's not playing quarterback for the Browns or the Bengals.

Like, you'll be fine.

He's talking about animals riding a golf course.

Dominique Foxworth joins us now.

The Dominique Foxworth show is something that is informative and fun.

Can you explain to me what it is that we saw last night?

Because I'm sitting here saying, I thought Jalen Ramsey played pretty well, and you're a former cornerback.

So it seems like an impossible position to play when you've got to guard T.

Higgins and him getting six catches.

And the last one makes you a huge failure in a game where they acquired you to be the guy who wins that game.

They acquired you to be the guy who does not get beaten by T.

Higgins in that spot.

First of all,

House Dan.

Anybody?

This man is a successful professional communicator, but still struggles to communicate.

And I love it.

It humanizes you.

It's like when Shaq shoots free throws, it's fantastic.

But I mean, as for Jalen Ramsey, he's incredible football player.

What happened last night, I think

Tony kind of mentioned it earlier about how it's a challenging position.

And I think, to be honest, we talk about how

losing a step could hurt you.

Like he isn't as quick as he used to be.

So So like when he's in press coverage, he's going to get beat a little bit more.

And it's just those inches that change the way that things work, especially when there's an accurate quarterback.

So he was on chase and Higgins at different times in the game and he made some plays from time to time, but it's a really tough position, especially when the guys that you're going up against are in their prime and you may not quite be there anymore.

But yeah, what he means to that defense is more about flexibility and versatility than it is about like being a locked down, shut down corner that they put on a guy and he disappears.

But you also mentioned earlier that the running attack, that was really the difference for the Bengals.

The I'm Steelers wearing a lot of single hot stuff, trying to take away that rushing attack, which isolates Jalen Ramsey.

And Jalen Ramsey was playing off really far quite a bit.

And then when he got up and pressed, that's when that little bit of quickness that he might have lost gets in the way and it becomes a problem.

So did he or did he not play well?

Is a cornerback even allowed to play well the way you do cornerback measurements in a game that looks like that?

No, I mean, his assessment would be that he played poorly.

He gave up a couple touchdowns in the most pivotal play in the game and just man-to-man, isolated press coverage.

Like you can't say that you play well in that situation.

They give you a really hard job.

That's the thing about playing, I mean, frankly, any professional sports, but especially at that position.

And the same thing could be said for playing quarterback.

That's a really, really difficult job.

It's hard to do.

If you don't succeed, then you didn't do it well.

That's one of the great things about sports is you don't have a whole bunch of conjecture about what's why this happened or what's going on here.

We might do it when we're analyzing the game, but when you get back to the locker room, guys are either saying, good job, high five, or saying, hey, it ain't that big a deal, man.

We'd be all right.

It happens to everybody.

That's your experience.

Rarely do they, do they MF you and try to fight you.

You have to be really bad for that to happen.

But most of the time, it's mostly like, hey, come on, man.

It gets everybody.

Don't worry about it.

We behind you.

That type of stuff.

Well, you say they get everybody, but I haven't seen a game except maybe Seattle, Tampa Bay this year.

I haven't haven't seen a football game played where that's what I'm watching.

Wait, I thought the Steelers defense was good.

What do you mean all of a sudden the 40-year-old quarterback who's not Browning can get there and have a 350-yard game where he's not throwing from behind?

He'll just, he'll just decimate you all game long.

And all of a sudden, the Bengals look exactly like they did with Burrow.

How's that possible?

Well, the Steelers' defense isn't very good.

Like, they haven't been all that good all season long.

They have a lot of names and they have a long reputation.

It's a lot like what happened with the Ravens, but I guess the Ravens have the excuse of a bunch of injuries.

The Steelers defense has kind of been up and down this year.

The games that they had, like a high EPA, were a result of turnovers.

And those things, as you know, can come and go depending on the situation.

So they haven't been all that good this year.

That still doesn't mean that this offense that's been bad without Joe Burrow all year should just kind of go in there and do what they want with him the way they did.

But I think you can chalk it up to the Joe Flacco dead cat bounce and also like Thursday nights.

Thursday nights are always a little bit unpredictable because it's just a random weird rest situation and preparation situation.

But yeah, Joe Flacco wasn't doing anything amazing.

He was just picking them apart and making the decisions to get rid of the ball quickly and finding the soft spots in the zone.

But I don't know why he's still doing it, which at first it was like confusing to me.

Like, why is Joe still out there?

But now it's kind of beautiful and romantic that I genuinely think that this guy, you know, people say I would do this for free and we all know they're lying.

He's really one of these guys that I think would do it for free because I think he recognizes while taking a contract with the Browns, he recognizes that he's not going to win a Super Bowl or impact his legacy in any way.

He also made a ton of money.

I'm not sure exactly what could motivate him to go out there and get hit by people other than he just really freaking loves it.

I don't love nothing as much as Joe Blacko loves to play football.

He really does.

He's been asked in press availabilities about like, why are you still doing this?

You have nothing to prove.

And he's like, well, I'm presently at the level where I know I'm still an NFL quarterback and I only got one life to live.

He's actually been, it's a love letter to football.

Every time he's asked about the question, he's like, why wouldn't I still want to be out here?

It's freaking amazing.

Or he hates his family.

Or he hates Mike Tomlin.

Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show.

Who does Joe Flacco hate more?

Mike Tomlin or his own family?

Oh,

I mean, don't his sons hate him?

Isn't that a thing that his sons hate?

They wear opposing uniforms?

Oh, man.

That's a cauldron there.

That's a tough household where your sons who are eating the food that you buy, going to the fancy schools that you probably pay for, wearing all their expensive clothes that you have given them, also probably pretty athletic and tall thanks to your jeans.

Still, like, you know what?

Jameer Gibbs.

That's my guy.

Yeah,

buy me the Gibbs jersey with that money we make, Dad.

That's awful.

I didn't even think about that.

It's like, actually, the money from winning super bowls is the money that you little mappers are taking to dick sporting goods and being like hey put me down for one of them gibbs flacco's got one assignment during his time in cincinnati and that's just win enough to be a bridge to possibly joe burrow coming back and them having a shot at the playoffs after two games it seems like he's going to be able to tread enough water to get them there right

i mean i i hope so like that feels like a lot more fun experience than the alternative um i think that the fact that he has good receivers

it's so hard to decipher what's happening in a football game and i would have told you before thursday night that joe flacco was going to have a rough outing and the bangles were going to get blown out and i don't know exactly the reason why this has all worked out i think there's a couple receivers that probably helps to understand it but those guys couldn't work for jake browning who's had some successful runs in that same situation with those guys like some of this stuff is surprising.

I've noticed this year that it feels like there are some like emotional impact of certain players in certain situations that's impossible for us to measure, measure as I've gone through like my evolution as of an analyst from going from like football guy who's like a hand in the dirt, everything can be explained by football to like reading more about analytics and understanding that to feeling like I can figure things out to these numbers to now back around on that cycle to like football guy where it's like man get these damn bobs right and hit somebody holla at jackson dark and cam scatterboo all of a sudden we beating the defendant super bowl champs it's about having guys right and it feels like flacco's playing a bit of madden right now he's like all right i'm gonna throw to jamar chase 23 times and let's see if you can stop him right like it's it's easy to play quarterback when you have a guy that's that good you just throw the ball to him well it wasn't it wasn't easy for browning like it made it it made it easier for browning but browning can throw you three interceptions so can flacco by the way but he's not going to do it against the jets next week they're going to be four and four dominique Dominique.

And what we're like, if Flacco was enjoying life as football player before, he's enjoying it more when he's got the old age and he's counting the minutes because he's like, I was just with the Browns.

I know how hard this can be when I don't have players.

Good God, wait a minute.

There's a team where I can throw to those two guys?

Both my wide receivers are super expensive.

Okay, I'll go there and punctuate my career there and see if I can just get it to 500 for Joe Burrow.

And then all of a sudden in the playoffs, everyone's fearing the Bengals again.

A lot of pressure on Joe Burrow, though, because I think that it wasn't a foregone conclusion.

We were kind of saying, like, if, if, uh, we get there, then maybe Joe Burrow can be back.

Like, I'm not sure.

Can you imagine a scenario where Joe Burrow comes back and plays poorly?

And the Bengals are like, hey, man, bring back Flacco.

His toe's not quite healed all the way.

We need to bring back Flacco.

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Dominique, you mentioned learning more about analytics in your current role as an analyst.

When you were a player, did they ever, as any of the prep, was it ever analytically driven?

And if so, was it presented as such?

Or did they just tell you, we need this to happen?

And there was analytics behind the reasoning, but you guys never saw it?

Yeah, you know as well as anybody that there's always been analytics.

It's funny because it's like a new word where like I make fun of people because they're like, I did some research.

Like, how many Googles qualifies as research?

You did one Google and read one article and you're presenting this as research.

I think the same thing is true of analytics.

Like I think they're more sophisticated now, but we were always using analytics.

We just called them tendencies.

It's like when this guy lines up here, this is the likelihood that he's going to do this.

When this team is on this position of the field.

So we always used it and it made you feel confident and comfortable in the things that you are willing to do.

I think that's one of the most important things.

And especially at the position of cornerback, you have to take chances.

The quarterbacks are too good.

The receivers are too good.

Like you should never win a one-on-one one-on-one matchup based on like physicality and the way the rules are set up but if you take chances and you gamble and those chances are calculated things will work out for you i think that's all analytics are and having confidence in the people that are presenting it i think you make a good point about how is it presented to you if you tell me the probability that's one thing but if you tell me a story about this probability and understand that when this is going to happen and also like you have credibility that's the thing that i think hangs over what's happening with the eagles is like i don't feel like there's like a leader in that organization right now on the offensive side of the ball that everyone can look to, like they had Kellen Moore last year.

Hey, I've done it before, I've been here for a long time.

You can trust that I'll fix this because you know they had a rough start last year and they fixed it.

Let me stop him for a second because we've gone too long without celebrating Billy, and some old-time listeners of this show are really going to appreciate this.

Time now for Guillermo's epic sound of the day.

Time now for Guillermo's epic sound of the day it's going to be epic

hey guys

hey billy

this is billy

dominique how's it going what's up buddy dan i mean

what's new

you really took out uh skipper in the last segment oh i did well i didn't

even i wasn't in thank you tony gets i wasn't even here what are you talking about also he's talking about gilligan yeah Anywho.

Not the skipper.

You guys familiar with

Demi Lovato?

Yeah.

Musician,

actress.

Yes.

Voice of a generation, some say.

Had some troubles.

Some say.

Overcame them.

Now, honestly, looks happier than ever and healthier than ever.

Just, yeah, looking great.

In fact, you know.

What's going on there?

There was a.

What do you mean?

Dan?

This ain't the room for it.

Demi Lovato?

Yes, looks great.

No, you know who we're talking about.

Yes.

Okay.

So, Demi Lovato, who, you know, years ago, we introduced the world to a clip such as this one.

In fact, this exact clip.

This is one of my favorite epic sounds of the day ever.

Before she became friend of the Demi Lovat bros, where we went and we saw her at the Daytona 500, if you remember correctly.

You remember that?

No.

You don't remember when we met Kugs Lovato?

Ah, yeah.

You remember Coogs's dance moves?

Yes, Coogs' dance moves.

That's the wrong picture, but but that's fine.

Don't worry.

Never change.

There we go.

Only that.

Only Coogs still stands.

Yeah.

Well,

not the day.

Anywho, Demi Lovato was, you know, doing some press 10 years ago.

And when she was doing said press 10 years ago, she was asked her favorite dish.

And your favorite dish.

My favorite dish.

I like mugs because they're very comfortable in your hand and they hold the hot things that you don't have to touch.

So, um, you know, coffee or hot tea.

More of a bowl guy myself.

That is Guillermo's epic sound of the day.

I'm glad that we brought

Guillermo.

Germo's epic sound of the day.

It's going to be epic.

You guys have a favorite dish?

I'm glad that we're going to be a bitch.

Tell me what's your favorite dish, just

I mean, it's actually a pretty good answer.

I get why it's dumb, but I mean, like, it's kind of a pretty good answer because it does have some use.

Can I just say?

I don't think a mug is a dish.

They already said it.

Put it on the poll at Levittouch Show.

I think the terrible answer is a mug a porch.

Is a mug a dish?

I'd go with the saucer.

My favorite dish

is the saucer.

That's what I call it.

Ramekin.

Ramekin.

My dad taught me that word.

Look, don't question me on this.

Ramekins are you put clothes on in a window.

No, ramekins are little tiny cups you put sauces in.

Yep.

Ramekin sounds tawdry.

Put it on on the poll.

Do you know what a ramekin is?

I want to get back to the kid.

Ramekin.

Barely know him.

I want to get to the conversation then.

Poor kid.

Dominique was starting when he said that Joe Flacco's kids are disrespectful.

All kids are disrespectful, aren't they?

All kids.

They absolutely are.

And they get so disrespectful that eventually they have to leave.

We're going to miss you, Billy.

We love you so much, man.

The weirdness in this show is a lot generated by Billy, and the show is going to get a lot less weird, which is kind of sad.

But congratulations and we're all happy for you.

Hopefully my kids can grow up to be, oh God, my kids can grow up to be as awesome and entertaining and talented and funny as you.

But right now, they just disrespect the shit out of me on a regular basis and it drives me nuts.

And my wife tries to tell me that they don't mean it as disrespect.

But if I tell you to put your laundry away, I take the basket from the laundry room and put it in your room in a place that you have to walk by.

If you walk by it, that is disrespect.

My wife's like, no, they're just not thinking about it like that.

They don't take things as seriously as you do, but I throw to the room, does that not qualify as disrespect?

If I put it there, I know that you've walked by it four times.

I heard you.

It's two days now.

It's still sitting there untouched.

That's disrespect.

I'm going to get mad.

That's all.

Imagine if you step over, right?

Like Supreme Disrespect.

In the NFL, you get a flag for stepping over somebody, AI stepping over Ty Lu.

That's disrespectful.

Tony.

Tony, you think I ain't do that?

You think I ain't blocked the door with the

laundry basket?

That's what I'm saying.

So they're stepping over

the laundry basket.

Oh, and by doing that, are they, Dan?

Are they, or are they not saying, hey, dad, F you.

Well, they're not only just doing that, Dominique.

I'm thinking to myself, as you say this,

there isn't anywhere else in your life with any person you've encountered that you've ever abided this kind of disrespect.

I mean, that's that's the thing about love is love and fear, but I think I've probably abided a little bit more disrespect for people that had some more power.

Like I've been MF'd by plenty of coaches where it's like, ooh, man.

And also, yeah, sometimes me and Ray Lewis disagree.

And I'm like,

you're right, Ray.

Okay, that'll be quiet, but we walk through that.

No, but that's an interesting one, though.

What's funny about what you're articulating is the only time that you abide disrespect is when someone is actually more powerful than you.

They're disrespecting you because they don't think you're powerful at all.

Exactly.

I know.

It's that they don't.

because I'm not.

That's the misconception about everything.

And I think, Dan, you might be figuring this out too.

It's like, man, when I get to be, when you're a kid, you're like, man, when I get to be a parent adult, I'm going to have so much power and control, do whatever I want.

Man, when I get to run my own company, I'm going to have so much power and control, do whatever I want.

That's not how it works, kids.

Let me warn you, don't get your hopes up.

It don't get much better than 17.

17 is awesome.

Nothing gets better than being 17, especially if you're good at football.

Oh, it's incredible.

A 17-year-old that can ball, oh, it's life.

Be a 42-year-old who's married with three kids,

not nearly as much fun dominique's kids are like he'll be fine we'll just draw another picture where this hairline is real strong

i used to laugh with my brother about how our mom would apologize in the off chance that she did something that we were upset about rather than being like look i'm sorry she'd just be like what's that video game you've been talking about where we're those shoes that you've really been liking and that she would pick it up for us and that was the her version of apology i feel the same way about these pictures.

It's like, rather than be like, I'm sorry for disrespecting you, they're like, hey, you got a hairline like Jalen Rose,

which is clearly not true.

Is there anything more disrespectful than your kid that your kids do than what they just did to you?

Like,

what is the greatest of the indignities you suffered before you realized, wait a minute, this is a disrespect I'm abiding that I shouldn't be.

These kids need to be better kids because I'm their dad.

It's a great communicator.

They are normally fantastically behaved children but they do like because we are like more gentle parents than there was in the past like obviously i don't advocate any type of violence but it is a much more direct way of communicating and you turn up the volume a little bit which is one thing i think i'm good at is i don't blow up very often so when somebody talk back it is mostly like if my son talks back to his mother i lose it then.

And of course, we don't get the physical violence, but it's a lot of loud and that stuff stops.

So like the most disrespectful thing they do are these passive things where it's like clean up after yourself.

Don't take bowls out of the kitchen if you're not going to take them back into the kitchen.

Those sorts of things that my life is riddled with those things and they irk me because they're so small that I see like, seem like the crazy person for losing it.

It's like, oh yeah, it's just a...

This is a bowl in the living room.

Like, it's not the end of the world.

He didn't stab anybody, but I feel

personally disrespected.

You guys make me feel bad.

Like, is there anything like this in any of your lives that you're like, man, I know it's small, but I know that you thought about me when you looked at that goddamn bowl and walked past it for the third time.

Dominique, what you're describing is microaggressions.

That's the term, microaggressions.

That's what children are great at.

My kids, I told this story, I think it was a week ago or so.

I was telling them about Millie Vanilli

and like, oh, this is the biggest thing.

And they had, they won these Grammys and these songs were hits.

And then turned out they were lip-syncing.

And so my kids were like, oh, word.

And so then we put on like a little documentary about it.

And I showed them the videos.

And they, like, they watched and they looked at me and said, you mean to tell me you think they were actually singing?

And I know what they're trying to say.

They're trying to say, you dumbass.

You believe this?

You bought this?

They look at these guys.

They're clearly lip-syncing.

But

deep in my heart, I was like, no, but you don't understand.

We all believed.

We all thought it was real.

There's no, I mean, there's the, the, when you're able to look back at something because they're going to have the same experience, and we are all having that experience now, too, where you're like, man,

how could people disenfranchise other people's ability to vote?

That's ridiculous back in the 50s.

And then you look around, like, oh,

that could happen here.

It's the exact same thing.

Millie Vanilli, girl, you know, it's true.

It's the exact same thing.

You know, it's true.

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Don Lebatard.

I thought that we were past the lightning.

I thought that we were better than the lightning and we didn't give the lightning any mind.

This is loser mentality.

No, no, no.

Last year's shirt was World War III.

Yeah.

Our group chat has a good feeling about this one.

The lightning aren't shit to me.

I'm just going to come right out and tell you right now.

We have surpassed the lightning.

They're not a formidable foe.

They're a joke.

Stugats.

I don't take them seriously at all.

Strike me by lightning.

I don't care.

Nothing's going to happen to me.

Lightning are soft.

I'm not giving them any mind.

I'm not paying attention to them this series.

On to the next round.

This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

While we've been talking about communication, what do you think Dan was trying to say here, Dominique?

I think Billy goes, I think Billy and Mike have both had zoo experiences that have grown their relationship with Ron McGill.

Do I have this wrong?

I think that's really messed up that Dan would out.

people

on air like gosh they got a little secret thing going on there let them live baby that's a totally abnormal way to ask somebody if they've ever been to the zoo right

he said something earlier in the show today that was really weird too like in the first segment i just like man it feels like um

There's like a thousand things probably going on in his mind at one time.

Like when I'm listening to him, I can hear the wheels turning, whereas there was a time when Dan, all the wheels are turning.

And it just like, you couldn't tell.

He's just spitting out all this great stuff.

And now like the great stuff doesn't stop, but occasionally, it comes out with another word of a different thought.

And it usually starts with, tell me if I have this wrong.

Domini, you got Dan's words, getting into a club, which is his mouth.

And they're all going there.

All right, how many got with you, all these guys?

And then there's one word that kind of sneaks in in the back, like, I'm with them too.

It's exactly what happens again.

Like, we should listen to the question again and figure out, or the response again, and figure out which one of these clubs, which one of these words snuck in with the group of baddies.

Like, it's just a fat dude just squeezing.

Like, oh, I'm with them.

He never used to get in before.

I think Billy goes.

I think Billy and Mike have both had zoo experiences that have grown their relationship with Ron McGill.

Do I have this wrong?

I think they just bum rush the door.

Zoo experiences.

It's like seven Chris Pens.

Just bum rushing.

I think you're doing great, sweetie.

It's the two, it's growing in experiences.

Those are the two words that's like, nah, you too old to be in this club.

Get out of here.

All I was trying to say is that he gave your kids a VIP tour.

They'll never forget.

Didn't say that.

That sounds much better.

I wanted them to say it.

And I've gotten old.

This is what happens.

I haven't done that.

Zoological experience.

I think my window closed on that.

Geron's never going to talk to me again, let's be real.

Have you ever tried tried to talk while reading at the same time?

It's like you're reading something and you're trying to hold a conversation with someone else.

Like, I feel like that's also an explanation that's going on.

It's like sometimes these things bleed into the same conversation.

Dominique, I got a question.

I was on a flight, and the guy next to me was watching Thursday night football on Amazon Prime.

The problem was he was watching last week's game.

Do I have an obligation to let the guy know?

You have to let him know.

I would

love to let him know.

No.

Was it Dan?

Was he enjoying it?

He seemed to be really into it.

Even the Giants have a lot of great games.

I watched a video a couple weeks ago where, like, this family convinced their dad that they were watching the Dodgers playoff game because he had like bad vision, took off his glasses, or whatever, and they were really just playing a video game on the screen.

And he's like, How'd you get the game?

How'd you get the game?

Like, we found it, dad.

Don't you worry.

And they kept it going for like

over an hour.

It would be great if Dan just started today's show with Cam Scatterbu became a star last night.

I told you this this happened in an Amazon Prime game, the Rams game, the other day.

These games are starting late.

They're still outside the stadium with Fitzpatrick and Whitworth playing with the tailgate crowd.

And I'm looking at my watch.

I'm like,

it's 8.45.

How is it that they're still doing this?

Just because I hit play, thought it was going to take me to live, and it went back to the start of the broadcast.

Playing in Hawaii.

I got a confession to make.

It's happened to me before.

I've figured it out now, but if you have like YouTube TV, you watch on on one tv and then you turn it off it stops whatever you're watching where you were watching it and then if you go turn it back on somewhere else it picks it up there and i've been in text group texts talking to people about a game that's been over for an hour because i'm still behind it happened to me a couple times now i double check because like you just press it and then it's like yeah start it doesn't say like resume or it says resume but it doesn't say like go to live and you have to be conscious of that or you'll look like an idiot but i'm also old i know i'm old because of that and i don't recognize these player celebrations anymore like that was a thing that i used to like see a celebration and be like ah i get that right away and like the commentators are confused by it now i know i'm old almost day in age oh that's a good one which one got you which one got you recently where you don't know the celebrations because that is a good uh landmark on how it is that people fall out of the pop culture demo you're watching athletes celebrate something,

yeah, and you don't recognize what it is.

It's a very, I mean, most of them now seem like they're TikTok dancers.

Yeah, I get on TikTok.

They're all TikTok dances.

Yeah, it's this

like booty shaking song where all the guys, which you will be surprised by, it's a woman's song.

Forgot what it's called.

Oh, take me through there, I think is what it is.

Show us, funchy show us.

Well, I can't do the booty shaking portion.

They don't really do that, but then they do like this thing while they're dancing.

And I was like, why is everybody doing that?

And of course, I went to TikTok.

I was like, oh, yeah.

And so I could go pretend like I know why they're doing that.

And so which one got you, though?

Is there one in particular that got you?

That's crazy.

It's, it's all of them.

They were all doing it throughout college.

And like, I know that this happened recently because they like recently banned the wiping of the nose celebration.

And I was in on that.

Like they were getting away with it for many years.

And I was like, I know what you're doing there.

Nobody else knows.

And then all of a sudden, this year, people are doing TikTok dances that I've never seen before.

So, I know that I'm on a path to eventually letting a lot of people in the club that shouldn't be in the club and sounding like I'm not making sense.

That one, you know what it means, Tony.

Yeah, you can't, you can't be doing that anymore.

They banned it, which is funny because, I mean, it's innocent enough, it's not cutting the throat.

You have said on the Dominique Foxworth show that the Chiefs are all the way back and that the league needs an alert.

The teams that you know are positive, are good.

Name them.

None.

I mean, I think there are no teams that are as good as the Eagles were last year.

There are no teams, including the Chiefs, that are as good as the Chiefs were at their peak.

The whole league feels like some of the bad teams have gotten a little bit better and some of the great teams have gotten a little bit worse.

But I think the thing that's most attractive, which I know you're you pay attention to, Dan, about the Chiefs is their fun again.

And the defense, I think they do do this cool thing that Steve Smagnola does where he has a blitz or some sort of coverage that he knows gonna work.

And he does not call it.

He like saves it, puts it in his pocket for a certain time, which gives me faith in the defense that when they need a play, they're gonna be able to get that play.

But they're not gonna need that play as much as they used to because they're gonna be blowing people out because the offense, if anything, is back, especially when and if they get their rookie tackle back,

Josh Simmons, I think they're going to be like pretty pretty proficient at scoring points which of course is the point of the game but i don't know no one's really like stepped out there i think we'll see about the colts they're going to continue to get tested i think they're probably um one of those teams that we have some baggage so we're not going to be quick to anoint them but uh if you watch them play you'll see i think they actually are really good in danny dimes it's oh excuse me uh indiana jones right new nickname Dominique, it feels like the Colts play like really good defense.

Their running game is really strong with Jonathan Taylor.

And if Danny Dimes can continue to do what he's doing now, now, they could be probably one of the best teams in the AFC.

Yeah, their defense, I think, is like tricky, which is they're good at tricking people and confusing people.

I'll see, we'll see how good they are when that no longer works.

But I think the fact that their offense is so good, it makes it so much easier.

Like we've changed the rules in this game.

If you remember back when we were all younger, like defense was it, like defense and running the ball.

Now it feels like the most important thing you can have is not a great defense.

It's an offense that can't be stopped.

And Daniel Jones is not just being like like a game manager.

Some of the plays that he's making and the throws that he's making are top level, like Matt Stafford-esque throws on occasion.

It's not as consistent as Matt Stafford does it, but he's showing that he has that ability.

The next question is like high pressure situations.

And I've always had a hard time with that as an assessment, like guys who choke and stuff, because it just doesn't feel like, doesn't feel concrete enough for me to grab onto.

But you can kind of find some statistics that suggest that some people are worse in those situations.

I just have a real hard time because I've been made to, or other people have been made to look so stupid when they're like, this guy can't win the big one.

And eventually he wins the big one.

Like,

I just don't get it.

So that's the hard part.

And I know we saw it with Sam Darnold last year, but Sam Darnold.

He's better this year than he was last year.

So I suspect that him and the Seahawks, another team that I really like, that might be my favorite team right now, especially if they get healthy in the secondary with Leonard Williams up front.

Like that team is going to be incredible with

Darnold and JSN, the receiver core.

And

yeah, that team, I think, might surprise some people.

What do you laugh?

I'm turning into Dane.

JSN, huh?

Yeah, I said that.

JSN.

Cheat code.

That's the announcement.

JSN.

Oh, Jackson Smith and Jigma.

Yeah, because I said that last name, man.

It's tricky.

Oh, and Jigma, right?

I didn't get it wrong.

No, not you, not you.

I'm just saying the announcement.

Don't broke me.

Don't groke me.

He was laughing because you chose to go with the initials instead of the name because the name has some danger in it but you said smith and jigba is the best receiver in the league you've already pronounced him that i don't think i haven't heard a lot of other people saying that even though he's got the most explosive plays in the league what's most interesting to me about any of this is that I want to know who who's watching my show and telling you what I said because there's no chance that you are.

Like, I don't, I want to know who's out here watching it and telling you my takes because I might want to come on here with a brand new tape.

Dominique, let me tell you right now, he doesn't watch Cinephobe, so he's never done any cinephobe references so i'm guessing he actually watches your show nah he don't you know he got somebody somebody's doing the work dad all right come clean dan who's watching it and telling you not true i'm listening to the things you say yeah that's not you tricky tricky with your language right there are you listening to the things i say or are you listening to my show there was just a graphic up on espn when it was

yes was it what the fox yeah what the fox there was just a graphic dominique Dominique says Smith and Jig was the deck receiver.

You're like, huh.

Yeah, I like that.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

I could fool Dominique into thinking I care.

Retribution is a movie, by the way, this week, on Sita Folks.

That is impressive, though.

Like, as we make it funny for being old, the ability to like retain short-term things, like, that's, you're not that old yet.

Thank you that I don't have Alzheimer's.

A very impressive bar that Kevin McDonald did.

How is Dan?

Yeah.

It's always a done.

How is Dan?

Yeah, you got to suck your teeth first.

I get that question every now and then.

He's like, hey,

how are you doing?

We've got

fewer than 90 seconds left.

I saw a great clip the other day that I want you to tell me how common it is.

Hollywood Brown scored on a touchdown.

They played the wired for sound.

Hollywood Brown comes up to the line of scrimmage, clearly has no idea what the play is.

Turns to Juju Smith Schuster and say, what do I have to do here?

And he says, you got the shallow route.

And then scores a touchdown.

Had no idea what the play was.

How common is that?

I think it's probably not that common, but more common than you think, which is probably a pretty shitty answer.

But every team has at least one guy who never knows what's going on and another guy who knows everybody's job on both sides of the ball.

There's normally one or two guys that you know if this is, and it's normally with game plan specific stuff, where it's like, all right, in cover four, when we see this against this team in this situation, we're going to play this route combination this way.

There's always somebody who's like, oh, and if you have been around long enough, you know, tell them before they ask.

You got to tell them before they ask.

Like, hey, we're going to Palms this where you get to number two to the flat.

You got to drive number one.

Those sorts of things.

And I mean, in their defense, some of this stuff is like unnecessarily like Byzantine and complicated.

It was pretty great, though, because the next clip I saw, Hollywood Brown scores the touchdown.

He's running around the sideline talking about how God did that.

And then Juju comes over and says, you know, I knew the play, right?

Like, you do remember that you didn't know the play before you came to the touchdown.

It's very Byzantine.

Is that what he's doing?

Like the Empire?

You turn into Dan.

It just means like unnecessarily complicated.

So that word was Byzantine.

Yeah, exactly.

Like Rube Goldberg would be like a Byzantine contraption.

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