Hour 1: Gotta Clean That Up

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Speaker 3 This is the Dan Labatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 3 One of the things that I always find interesting in basketball is how sustainable are you.

Speaker 3 The Pacers are one in ten. The Mavericks were in the finals a couple of years ago.
The whole thing has fallen apart.

Speaker 3 You remember that really fun year Sacramento had where it's like, are they on the rise? Now their coach is Doug Christie, who I don't believe is necessarily qualified for that job.

Speaker 3 He's another one of these former players who doesn't have a unique, necessarily, insight to how to coach. He's just a former player who has some allegiances to Sacramento that people remember.

Speaker 3 And so the Sacramento thing has collapsed, and the press conference we played of Doug Christie, Christie yesterday was weird.

Speaker 3 But before I replay it and then tell you what happens to update this story, I mean, what's fair and unfair to say about Doug Christie's both relationship with Sacramento and his relationship with his wife that was a subject of much topic around Doug Christie, that makes a whole lot of people in our audience of a certain age remember that Doug Christie was wildly and hugely supportive of his wife in a way that made it known to all in a way that was super public that his wife was in charge of their relationship and that she was the one and his love was something that buoyed her.

Speaker 3 They were very public about their relationship before that was a popular thing. And it's almost one of the first things I think of when I think of Doug Christie.
What's What's fair to examine there?

Speaker 10 Well, I mean, I would just, to the second question, just say that, like, if you think about the show Basketball Wives, which opened up this whole world of the wives and girlfriends, the wags, as they call them over across the pond, being celebrities of their own right.

Speaker 10 And Jackie Christie was really like the first one to be of that mold even before the show went on in terms of being known for being Doug Christie's wife, which is funny because Doug Christie wasn't that famous a player when he played.

Speaker 10 But to the first question, what he means to the city of Sacramento, you got to think about the only sustainable success they've ever had in that city over 40 years of having NBA basketball is Doug Christie, Chris Weber, Pedro Tayakovic, Hita Turkalu, Rick Adelman, those Vladimots, those teams, right?

Speaker 10 And so...

Speaker 3 Could have and should have beaten Shaq's Lakers.

Speaker 10 They came closer than anybody else, I guess, other than the Pistons who actually did it, right? So the idea here is that,

Speaker 10 and as a guy who never left, right, stayed with the organization first as a broadcaster and then as an assistant coach and now as a head coach, right?

Speaker 3 So when he speaks,

Speaker 10 he knows how to use the jingoistic terms to get the Sacramento people very bought into him as a person and as a leader. So yesterday, we played this sound, which is him after they lost pretty handily.

Speaker 3 Roll the audio. Good evening.
Good evening.

Speaker 11 Some of you guys, I think everybody in here knows me.

Speaker 11 If you don't, my name is Douglas Dale Christie. I'm head coach of the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker 3 Okay?

Speaker 11 Change is hard, y'all. We about to work at it like crazy.
We totally get that. And it'll be bumpy.

Speaker 3 It will.

Speaker 11 Because change is like that.

Speaker 3 But buckle up. For the real ones, buckle up.

Speaker 11 And for all the rest of you, you know who you are, you know how I feel about that. When I see

Speaker 11 the hate, the haters, the fakers, all you guys, you keep that energy. That's good.
You keep that. And you know who you are.

Speaker 11 Because while you're doing that, we're going to be working.

Speaker 11 And while you're doing that, we're going to be growing.

Speaker 11 And while you do that, eventually, we're going to be coming.

Speaker 3 10 seconds here.

Speaker 11 The King Show.

Speaker 3 Sack Proud.

Speaker 11 Know that. Three, two.

Speaker 12 All right, I mean, go ahead. Let's set up the second.

Speaker 10 So that was after they lost to the Nuggets, 122-108. So last night, they played against the Hawks.
Worst team, right?

Speaker 3 Also a home game.

Speaker 10 Surely better results.

Speaker 10 Broller sound.

Speaker 11 Shameful compete level.

Speaker 3 That's it.

Speaker 10 133 to 108. They lost to the Hawks.

Speaker 3 He had that big-ass speech. I didn't expect that.
They lost to the Hawks worse than they lost to the Nuggets.

Speaker 10 That was his sound.

Speaker 3 But he tried to motivate. Look, he threatened the haters.
You heard it. He went in, but he doesn't have to.
He had the Freakers. Don't forget about it.

Speaker 10 Keep that energy.

Speaker 3 He doesn't have the soldiers behind him. He's got what's left of Russell Westbrook trying to get a triple-double.

Speaker 14 Like, you want to talk about the Clippers and they're just getting a bunch of names. That's literally what the Kings are.
We like Russ.

Speaker 3 DeRosen and Russell Westbrook isn't going to fix it at the end. Schroeder.

Speaker 3 Like, what is all of that? What are they doing in Sacramento?

Speaker 3 That was the most promising team in the Western Conference a couple of years ago. Lightning that beam.

Speaker 12 Them in Memphis were like, wow, this is the future.

Speaker 3 And it's like, you know about that beam? What happened?

Speaker 3 Doug Christie is now in charge of something he will not be able to pull out of. There will be no pulling out of that.

Speaker 3 He will drown under what is happening in Sacramento, and they will go back to being what they've always been if not for Rick Adelman.

Speaker 10 Well, this is why we always always say that ownership is so important in sports is because you can hire qualified people, but if you don't support them, especially in times of crisis, then it all falls apart.

Speaker 10 They had, as you said, the beginnings of something that looked like it was starting to work with Monty McNair as the GM and Wes Wilcox in that front office and Mike Brown as the head coach.

Speaker 10 And as Mike Brown is telling everybody, hey, this isn't working because guys aren't listening. Guys are not executing.
Their answer was, it's Mike Brown's fault.

Speaker 10 They get rid of Mike Brown and then obviously they get rid of their front office. And so this cycle begins anew.

Speaker 10 And the new front office comes in with Scott Perry and they made some decisions that, quite frankly, feel very head scratching. It feels like this does not move.

Speaker 3 It's such a stupid roster.

Speaker 14 You look at it. It's a stupid roster.

Speaker 10 It is a stupid roster. You know what's crazy, Zaz, is like, they're one of the teams I mentioned yesterday I happen to know that are monitoring the John Rand situation.

Speaker 3 He happens to know? Great Scott, he happens to know. He happens to know.

Speaker 3 Gather everyone. Get the children.
He happens to know.

Speaker 3 So why? You can't do that a second day after he's already done the happen to know. The happen to know has to be a surprise.
Respect the happen-to-know. Respect the happen-to-know.

Speaker 3 It can't be him repeating and recycling yesterday's happen to know. If the play works.

Speaker 10 But the point is, it's like you send them John Morant

Speaker 10 and yes, they'll be better because John Morant's good, but it feels like it's just going to be more of the same because they're not going to provide the structure and the like accountability that I think John Morant really needs.

Speaker 14 It feels like sending John Morant to a bad situation is probably not the spot for him.

Speaker 3 The idea that you guys are talking two years after Sacramento and Memphis were playing for the top of this conference, they were telling us, they were, well, look, look, you can make them three and four and five seats, but I was told that was OKC before I was told OKC was going to be OKC.

Speaker 3 Okay, I was told that that was going to be the future. Sacramento and Memphis, and they're young players, and they're playing a different kind of basketball.

Speaker 3 To look up and see Memphis getting every game, whether Job plays or not, losing by 35 points every single night, every single night where they've given up on the entirety of whatever it is that that was supposed to be.

Speaker 12 Dentex, ready.

Speaker 3 I don't want to do football yet. I'm not happy with your governance of today's game.
You've been actively distracting me.

Speaker 3 I've heard, I've heard. Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go, gotta go.

Speaker 3 I don't want to do the dentech bucket yet.

Speaker 12 Yeah, no, let's keep talking, Sacramento Kings.

Speaker 3 That was working.

Speaker 3 Get the Reaper out of here. I'll do football for you.
Reaper, out. I'm not ready to do this yet.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 we give him that control over the offense. We'll do the Dentech bucket in a sec.
Check with me.

Speaker 3 The thing that I did want to get to, though, because I'm hearing Lewis during the breaks as I go out into a kitchen area where I thought the pastelitos, I thought we scrimped a little bit in the eating area on the pastelitos today.

Speaker 6 Look, they were excellent. We love our pastelito papi.

Speaker 5 There's a, you know, there could be more.

Speaker 3 I could hear Lewis still grumbling, I really need that money Sunday. And so I'm watching on the television, and it says Chiefs must win game against the Broncos.

Speaker 3 And I want people to understand what the bet was that Nick Wright made the other day because it's not me against him. It is the shipping container has five grand riding

Speaker 3 on the Chiefs minus three and a half at Denver, correct?

Speaker 3 So this is a game for the top of the division, and I don't think it's a must-win game for the Chiefs, but you guys don't seem to be objecting to the idea of it as a must-win game for the Chiefs.

Speaker 5 It's absolutely a must-win game in more ways than one.

Speaker 6 Yo, how locked in are you that guy?

Speaker 5 Buddy, I might be calling plays.

Speaker 6 I have to send it over to Andy Reid.

Speaker 3 So Nick Wright and I are making a $5,000 bet on behalf of both Nick's Chiefs and the shipping container. The shipping container minus Mike minus Amin.
This is Tony.

Speaker 3 According to Nick Wright, this is five grand for Tony, Chris, Roy, Lewis, and who's the fifth person? Jeremy? You sure he wanted Jeremy?

Speaker 5 He's not here to defend.

Speaker 1 That's a five grand split amongst us.

Speaker 3 Are you guys going as part of the

Speaker 3 consortium that Nick is in where he bets big money on big things? He's willing to spill $5,000 on behalf of the shipping container. Will you guys be watching that game with the audience on Sunday?

Speaker 3 The must-win game for the Chiefs with you guys on the Chiefs side. Five grand on the result.
You guys will be watching that and doing something with it?

Speaker 5 Dan, will we be doing something? You will be able to watch a sweat every single second of Kansas City versus Denver.

Speaker 5 A massive game in the AFC West, not only for these two teams, but for the boys in the shipping container and Lewis in the back. I will be spearheading it, okay? You know, I'm Mr.
Live 305.

Speaker 5 We will be spearheading a live watch party watching Chiefs, Broncos, 425 big game.

Speaker 3 Big game that Zaz is.

Speaker 14 I decide if it's a big game or not.

Speaker 3 I'm telling you it's a big game right now. I'm telling you that.
You don't get to decide that. I decide to decide.
What is it?

Speaker 3 Zaz decides that. You don't decide.
I'm telling you it's a big game.

Speaker 14 Chiefs, Broncos, three and a half points, $5,000.

Speaker 3 That's a big game. Let's go.

Speaker 3 Wow. All right.
Let's go. Big game.

Speaker 3 Good to see you. How many other big games are on the schedule? Let's do the Dentech bucket.
Go get the shamed Reaper and allow him into the room.

Speaker 6 There's actually one other big game that we do.

Speaker 3 Seahawks versus Rams.

Speaker 3 Massive game. Is that a big game, too? Hold on a second.

Speaker 3 Seahawks,

Speaker 3 Rams,

Speaker 14 NFC West.

Speaker 14 That's a big game.

Speaker 3 Woo!

Speaker 3 Another big game.

Speaker 12 We got another big game.

Speaker 3 Three big games? Bucks Bills.

Speaker 3 Wait, I don't know. Coach, what do you think about Bucks Bills, Coach? Don't focus on Dallas.
Coach doesn't decide big games or not big games. Big quarterback change.

Speaker 10 Zaz decides that.

Speaker 3 Bucks, Bills.

Speaker 14 Bills coming off of a bad loss to a stinky team.

Speaker 3 Bucks coming off of a loss to a good team.

Speaker 3 That's a big game. Oh, okay.
Three straight big games.

Speaker 3 Big big game.

Speaker 3 I think we got four big games. No,

Speaker 3 Detroit and Philly.

Speaker 12 Big game on Sunday night.

Speaker 3 Is that a fourth big game? That is a fourth game. Sunday night football.

Speaker 3 Lions. Ooh, that is a big one.
Eagle.

Speaker 3 I decide.

Speaker 14 Lions, Eagles.

Speaker 3 That's a big game. All right.
So they're just all big games.

Speaker 3 No, that's it. Just those four.
That's it. Not all of them.
Most of them are not. First game ever in Spain.
Most of them.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Washington. Oh.
Miami.

Speaker 14 Both teams are three and seven.

Speaker 3 Terrible record.

Speaker 3 Not a big game. Not a big game.
They're not all big games.

Speaker 3 We got Chargers and Jags. Oh, that's a good game.
Yeah?

Speaker 12 Is that a good game or a big game?

Speaker 3 You don't know the difference? Impactful. Two playoff teams as of right now.
Chargers,

Speaker 3 Jaguars, Trevor Lawrence sucks.

Speaker 3 Not a big game. Not a big game.

Speaker 14 Trevor Lawrence doesn't play in big games.

Speaker 3 There are only four big games. I mean, go ahead and reach into the bucket.
Go ahead and charge it.

Speaker 3 I love the rummage.

Speaker 3 I got the Broncos.

Speaker 3 So you were up four and a half.

Speaker 3 Now the line has gone up to four and a half. You should keep it.
I'm putting back up. Ooh, wow.
She's an outline.

Speaker 1 You gotta fade the shipping container.

Speaker 3 It's a big game.

Speaker 3 For the record, by the way, the game on Sunday, according to our lines, it's three and a half because the line here is four and a half. It's gone up a point in favor of the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 So Nick got that line at three and a half earlier in the week.

Speaker 3 Just, I don't want any confusion if there's a four-point

Speaker 15 controversy. I'm rummaging.

Speaker 3 You just put back a four and a half-point favorite at home that's first place in the division.

Speaker 3 Steelers.

Speaker 3 The Steelers are afraid of the family. Five and a half point favorite at home against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3 Tomlin is afraid of Flacco.

Speaker 10 I'm worried.

Speaker 3 He is afraid of Flacco. That's true.
It's the only guy who makes him blink.

Speaker 3 Mike, I don't need the soundtrack of you chewing.

Speaker 3 Can coach pick the Raiders?

Speaker 3 Is that a controversy? Don't let him look in the bucket. I see him chewing.
You should just get the Raiders. We're going to go.

Speaker 3 We're going to defer.

Speaker 3 What do you mean you're going to defer? Second half, Dan. The Raiders are at home against the Cowboys.
You get the Raiders. The Raiders.

Speaker 3 The Raiders. We defer.
Three and a half point home dog.

Speaker 6 Come back after half of you.

Speaker 5 You got the Giants. I'm going to throw that back expeditiously.

Speaker 3 The Giants. Good.
Jameis Wincham. Ooh, the Jameis.
He's seven and a half point underdog at home against the Packers.

Speaker 5 I know how that one's going to go.

Speaker 3 Weird team, Packers. Packers are kind of weird, yeah.
Unserious.

Speaker 3 That's what Dominic Foxworth says. Wow.
I got a big game, Bucs. Wow.

Speaker 3 You've got Tampa Bay, so Tampa Bay is going to end up being...

Speaker 3 I'm getting points, Dan. I'm getting five and a half.
Well, no, you're giving. Yeah, you're getting five and a half points.
No, you're not getting anything. You're a five and a half dog.

Speaker 3 I'm getting a loss. You're getting five and a half, Dano.

Speaker 1 Remember when we used to wear gloves for this segment?

Speaker 3 This is annoying. It's annoying to speak this way, and I imagine it's annoying for the audience at this point as well.
But Dentech is not annoying.

Speaker 6 It'll get rid of your head

Speaker 3 if you're a grinder. Roy,

Speaker 3 what do you have on your helmet, Roy? Is that the Seahawks? Yes, sir. The Seattle Seahawks.
So, Seattle, that's in one of the big games.

Speaker 3 They're at the Rams.

Speaker 3 They're at the Rams. They're a three and a half point dog at the Rams.
I'm putting that back. Whoa.
You guys are putting good teams over there. That is one of the best teams in the league, Roy.

Speaker 3 Are you watching football?

Speaker 3 I'm watching hockey. I can tell.
Clearly. It's got the Chargers.

Speaker 11 I got the Giants.

Speaker 3 Oh, the Giants. I'm sorry.
So you're a seven and a half point dog. No, start watching football, buddy.

Speaker 3 I'll watch it on Sunday.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go. I'm going now.
I'm going to go to the bottom. I like to go to the bottom.

Speaker 10 Get one out there.

Speaker 12 Hey, why aren't you wearing your Gent Tech mouthpiece?

Speaker 1 I am not wearing that at the moment. I have the Falcons.

Speaker 3 The Falcons are at home. Three and a half point favored over Carolina.
Not bad. Favorite over a team they lost by 32.

Speaker 3 I'll keep it. They're at home.
Wow. So all right, I deferred.
I'm going to go ahead and break now.

Speaker 5 Second half just kicked off there.

Speaker 3 He's super annoying today, man. Like, he's most annoying, most Texans.

Speaker 3 Davis Mills at Tennessee, we're going to keep that. You're going to keep that as a six and a half point favorite at Tennessee, despite your beloved Cam Ward.

Speaker 3 The Reaper is coming in here now to

Speaker 3 allow Zaslow. Zaslow, you haven't done a whole lot of punishments.
One of them was you stayed in a bed. How many times have you lost this season?

Speaker 14 Yeah, and I also did, I dressed up as a NASCAR driver, and I have a punishment coming up next week. My deal is in the mail, so don't you worry about that.

Speaker 1 I think you're dressing up as the Pope.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's appropriate.

Speaker 3 San Francisco. Appropriate.

Speaker 3 The 49ers are on the road at Arizona. They're a three and a half point favorite.
I'm going to keep that. All right, you're going to keep that.

Speaker 3 That was funny. As soon as the Cardinals say, hey, no more Kyler Murray, we're going to go with Jacoby Brissette.
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Speaker 12 Do not know what laying out means.

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Speaker 3 I'm reading headlines this morning and I did not see this game. Okay, so you will forgive me for not knowing that Hannah Hidalgo is a great player for Notre Dame in women's college basketball.

Speaker 3 She scored 44 points last night, but when I saw 16 steals,

Speaker 3 when I saw 16 steals, I'm like, does Akron have a point guard problem? Because 16 steals,

Speaker 3 I don't understand under what circumstance I could be watching any game that someone is so athletic that they've got 16 steals in a game.

Speaker 3 What would you guys think is the record in an NBA game for steals in a game? Because when I saw 16 steals, I'm like, that can't just be about Hannah Hidalgo is great. She'll score against everyone.

Speaker 3 She'll score 44 against a lot of people. But if I ask you for the Steals record, when I see 16 steals, I assume the Steals record is like half that.
That's

Speaker 3 something closer to eight than to 16.

Speaker 1 The NBA record for steals in a game is 11. It's two guys, Larry Keenan and Kendall Gill.

Speaker 1 Keenan did his in 76, Gill in 99.

Speaker 10 Shout out to Kendall Gill, the boxer.

Speaker 1 Seven players have done 10 steals.

Speaker 3 16 steals, though.

Speaker 3 That must be very fun to play basketball that way.

Speaker 3 To be a player who can steal the ball 16 times feels to me like what would be a dream scenario for how can I be more athletic than everyone it is that I'm playing against.

Speaker 3 So athletic that I can dominate the game by doubling up what would be a normal steal total for an amazing game.

Speaker 10 Or just playing against some sloppy, sloppy passes, bad turnovers, bad ball handling.

Speaker 5 Also, I mean, what's the cookie rate on those 16 steals? Because that's an important thing to note, right? Is it 16 steals where I'm getting in the passing lane? I'm getting one?

Speaker 5 Or is it cookies where I'm taking what you're dribbling and those are mine? Thank you. Excuse me.

Speaker 10 The cookie percentage is an important thing.

Speaker 3 We need to check that out.

Speaker 10 We need that before we can confirm anything. By the way, you you talk about Hannah Hidago.
What do you know about that? Audi Crooks, man.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, she dominated last time. You know about that? You saw that?

Speaker 14 Yeah, I saw what Audi Crooks did. She had like 40-something points last night, man.

Speaker 10 43 points in 20 minutes.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Crook would be a better name for somebody who's doing the steals, I would imagine, right? Than the point totals.

Speaker 3 Can you guys tell me whether or not you've been following at all the journey of Gilbert Arenas?

Speaker 3 Because it's been really interesting to watch all the things that Arenas is doing, pouring a great deal of money into the making of content.

Speaker 3 He's gotten into the content business in a way that is expensive and has been successful. There are not a lot of athletes who have had the success in this space that Gilbert Arenas has.

Speaker 3 Gilbert Arenas, during his playing days and afterward, is an uncommon personality anywhere in athletics where he's actively willing. to be a troll.

Speaker 3 This goes back to his playing days. He got suspended, one of the longest suspensions ever.

Speaker 3 That I thought, before watching the Netflix documentary, I really did think that Gilbert Arenas didn't get into

Speaker 3 historic suspension trouble for bringing a gun into a locker room and having a showdown with Javeris Crittinen. I didn't, I thought that the suspension initially would be over that.

Speaker 3 And then I thought, no, the reason that he got that long a suspension is because while he was still playing, while they were trying to figure out what to do with that, he came out and did a gun celebration with finger guns and then he got yanked off the court.

Speaker 3 But it turns out after watching the Netflix documentary that the reason he got suspended for that, he says, is because he was just on NBA planes going back and forth all over the place with a bunch of guns.

Speaker 10 Dan, a couple of things. Gilbert Arenas, like Shaquille O'Neal, sometimes embellishes stories, right? But it is true.

Speaker 10 His initial suspension for having the guns in the locker room and all that was like two games, three games or something like that. He gets reactivated that first game back when he's reactivated.

Speaker 10 He comes out with the finger guns, and David Stern blew a gasket. And that's when he threw the book at him, which is what I actually ask Adam Silver to do all the time.
Throw the book at him.

Speaker 3 He's being introduced before a game in the middle of this controversy. And as he does so, he does finger guns as if he thinks all of this is funny, that he's getting suspended for a couple of games.

Speaker 10 So this is the backdrop. This is the kind of guy he is.
I mean, even we talk about

Speaker 10 the showdown, if you will. Critten walks in the locker room, and Gilbert has three guns on the chair and says, pick one.
And Critton says, I don't have to do that. I got my own.

Speaker 10 Cocks it, starts singing, oh, let's do it. And it said, everybody ran out of the locker room except for Gilbert Arenas.
And I heard this from not Gilbert Arenas. He sat back and he laughed.

Speaker 10 So this is the level of troll, ladies and gentlemen. He's willing to die for the joke, right? Or at least he was when he was a player.

Speaker 10 When Gilbert retired, I knew I said this guy would be great on TV. The problem is, he's Gilbert Arenas.
He plays by nobody's rules. We had him on the jump one time.

Speaker 10 Our producer sat with him for 40 minutes in pre-show meeting.

Speaker 3 All they were doing was going over words you can't say.

Speaker 10 What about, can I say this word? No, you can't say that on TV.

Speaker 10 They finally landed on douchebag. Can I say douchebag? Fine, Gilbert.
You can say douchebag. And then he proceeded on the jump to work the word douchebag into every single answer

Speaker 10 of every question thrown at him. This is a Gilbert Arenas who at another time could never exist on TV.

Speaker 10 But because of the great equalizer of the internet, he has become a massive star for all the reasons of rule breaking, of being a troll, of all these things have allowed him to be a massive star.

Speaker 10 Now, here's the deal, Dan.

Speaker 10 We got the gambling scandal, and this is him talking about the day he learned maybe I should stop trolling.

Speaker 15 Me trolling my own case saying I'm ready to snitch, right?

Speaker 3 And then I'm looking at the case like, all right, Chauncey, Rogier. The f ⁇ this guy doing me?

Speaker 10 What happened is we're getting ready to go on the show.

Speaker 15 So I'm like, I'm not going to mess this moment up.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to mess this moment up, right? So what did the blushbacks say again? Informative lunch.

Speaker 15 I didn't know, because, you know, I'm reading on real time and then, you know, going on the show, I didn't know how serious that was.

Speaker 10 And then once I realized how serious it was, it kind of scared me.

Speaker 3 The them, right, started saying like...

Speaker 3 The crime families. Like, I've heard these names before.

Speaker 3 But, you know, like, I'm, you know, I'm watching you, because I watch datelines and I watch, you know, all this mob shit.

Speaker 15 So I be watching, like, you know, okay, got it, got an argument at a restaurant. Next day, restaurant blew up.

Speaker 3 Okay, car blew up. Like, okay, so they serious about their business on just arguments.
This is real. This is four families.

Speaker 10 And my name is in it for no damn reason. Do they think this is real?

Speaker 3 Do they think I'm a part of it? Listen, I didn't get in my car for about a week and a half. Really? Hell no.
I mean,

Speaker 3 let's talk about what's real and what's real. No, no.
No, I believe I don't.

Speaker 3 This one's interesting right i did not believe that there was a trolling line that gilbert arenas would not cross because i too marveled at in a locker room where gilbert knew what his power was as the star and the star moneymaker he pushed a teammate to the brink on the game of chicken of you're not going to shoot me in here here are the guns teammates are running out but he's that committed to the joke layout

Speaker 3 he does not fear the FBI. He does not fear

Speaker 3 basketball investigations. He does fear the mafia, obviously.

Speaker 10 That's exactly it, Dad.

Speaker 10 The idea is that because he had his own FBI thing earlier in the summer, people were saying, oh, maybe Gilbert was on the toll.

Speaker 10 So as soon as he saw the story, he comes in with the bag with the informant lunch on it. But even as he's telling the story, I'm like, I don't believe you, Gilbert.

Speaker 10 I think he's still going to troll and he's still going to do these jokes and he's still going to have fun with it.

Speaker 10 In the rest of the clip, he says he had to make calls to the underworld to make sure, am I kosher? Am I good? Or am I in danger here? And they let him know he's good. And now he can start his car.

Speaker 14 I just don't, yeah, I just don't believe the part where he didn't go in his car for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 10 A week and a half.

Speaker 3 There's no way.

Speaker 14 There's no way he didn't go in his car for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 You know about those car bombs?

Speaker 14 Well, yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 Okay, so? So there's no way he didn't go in his car.

Speaker 14 I stutter. I'm just trying to tell you.

Speaker 3 I do believe he was scared, though, and I I don't believe he scares easily.

Speaker 10 There's a moment, right? There's a brief moment where you're like, oh, shit.

Speaker 10 Like, I'm making a joke, and I'm thinking I'm making the joke at the expense of Terry Rozier, at the expense of Chauncey Phillips, at the expense of Adam Silver.

Speaker 10 And you realize when you look at the names on that list, you're like, oh, there's some people who don't maybe... They don't make jokes.
They don't make jokes. Yeah.

Speaker 10 And like, I need to clarify real quick.

Speaker 10 My name is Bennett. I ain't in it.
My name's Paul.

Speaker 3 That's between y'all.

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Speaker 6 For weeks, months even, during the regular season, I wondered aloud what Kevin Stinlin did.

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Speaker 3 What were your thoughts, I mean, on the move that Steve Kerr made where he's saying he's ready to make major changes and the major change is right after Draymond says hidden agendas.

Speaker 3 It's Kaminga, you're going to the bench. We are in, we're aware, right, that Draymond still leads that team, right?

Speaker 3 Like that the furnace that Draymond is with the connection specifically that he has to Steph, right? Like this is an unusual bond that they have. In the fire, the only ones who survived it was them.

Speaker 3 Durant got blown out. Get out of here, Clay.
We're the furnace. It's going to be Draymond does all the little things.
Steph does all the big things.

Speaker 3 Good cop, bad cop in the locker room, I would imagine. I imagine that everybody loves Steph and Draymond's the one policing it.

Speaker 3 They go out and they beat Wemby last night after Jimmy Butler's there with Draymond saying, no, Kaminga's the problem. The problem here is Kaminga.
And now Kaminga goes to the bench.

Speaker 10 Well, Anthony Slater also posited yesterday that Brandon Pajemski, Brendan Pajemski, the third year guard, had made comments in the summer that they deemed to be a little disrespectful.

Speaker 14 Stupid, I saw those comments.

Speaker 14 So Brandon Pozzemski was asked, how good do you want to be?

Speaker 14 How are you going to take the mantle or something? He's like, I want to be better than Curry. And apparently the veterans got mad.

Speaker 3 Why? That's stupid.

Speaker 10 Who cares?

Speaker 14 He's saying he wants to be one of the greatest players. That's not a good thing to say.

Speaker 10 A level of kind of, it's weird. It's a sport that demands delusion, but also like realistic delusion.

Speaker 10 Like, I've told the story before about Aaron Aflalo.

Speaker 10 where he told us in our pre-daft interview that we said, who's a guy in the league who whose career you think you can mimic and he said Kobe Bryant and we said well no like yes obviously the the best players we want to emulate them whatever but like realistically you look around the league who's like someone like I can have his career and he's like Kobe Bryant and we were like yeah dude you're not gonna be Kobe Bryant so then we explained him like we think you can be like a bigger more athletic Roger Bell can do a little bit more off the dribble can defend a little bit more versatility because you are tall or whatever and it was like we told him hey can you clean our toilets barehanded please It was so far beneath him to say, hey, you can be Roger Bell, which Roger Bell, all defensive team, played on some teams that went to the finals, some deep runs.

Speaker 3 When you talk about these delusions, though, do you guys not understand

Speaker 3 in the Warriors locker room, how Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, and Steph Curry would look at anyone else in the locker room and be like, you have no idea how hard what we just did was for the last 10 years.

Speaker 3 You have no concept.

Speaker 12 Go to what I mean, Diddy.

Speaker 10 Don't do that one.

Speaker 14 Like, do you think Jimmy's a part of any of those conversations?

Speaker 3 Jimmy feels he belongs in that conversation.

Speaker 10 First of all, Draymond and Jimmy are lockstep, right? It's the two assholes who like to hold people accountable in the most asshole way possible, which again,

Speaker 10 in Draymond's case, I think for both of them, they're vets. They've been in the league long enough.
And I think the things that they demand are good basketball.

Speaker 10 They're not demanding, you know, hey, just keep passing me the ball and get out of the way. They want you to play better.
For Draymond, in particular, like,

Speaker 10 and I said it yesterday when we were talking about him and Steph and Clay when he was there and Andre Guadala when he was there, like they're really understanding about what makes this thing go.

Speaker 10 Not just like, hey, give the ball to Steph or whatever, but like literally the attitude and the approach of the championship mentality. It's not for everybody, right? The way they do things there.

Speaker 10 And so when you see someone who kind of breaks away from that, they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, man. We got, put four banners up there doing it this way to hell with your way.

Speaker 14 Okay, but here's where the Warriors are stupid. What did they expect with Jonathan Kaminga this year? They went the whole summer, we don't want you, you don't want us.
And then eventually he signs

Speaker 14 the tender. And yeah, he still needs to go out now this year.
and get his because he wants to sign a long-term deal. And you know what?

Speaker 14 Coming from Jimmy Butler, that's pretty effing rich where year he tanked the heat because, you know, he wanted his money.

Speaker 14 Even though Jimmy's probably made $200 million in his career, Jonathan Caminga has made squat. And like you're upset that Jonathan Caminga's trying to go out there and get his?

Speaker 3 Like

Speaker 14 it's kind of stupid that the war isn't acknowledged. That's a good point.

Speaker 3 Kind of trailed off.

Speaker 10 I think

Speaker 10 the context is important, right? In the sense that Jimmy Butler last year, I mean, we all knew it. You looked at this Miami Heat team.
This is not a championship team.

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, in Golden State they feel like they are a championship team and so when that agenda supersedes the ultimate team success it becomes threatening when it's like we're not doing anything anyway then it's a little bit more acceptable what the Warriors expect what they expect out okay but let's and also like the players aren't the ones they have nothing to do with that like this this is this is a player-driven conversation can we examine though when when Zaz sort of says what did they expect let's make it a J Brown now in the Eagles okay let's make it the big controversy in football where you've got a seven and two team and someone who we know to be great is saying, I want to be great from within the greatness.

Speaker 3 I'm always great. A.J.
Brown is the number one receiver. We all know it.
The only thing that's ever stopped A.J. Brown since we've learned his name is the Eagles offense.

Speaker 3 Like, we know that that's a human being that can't be covered by just about anybody. And so A.J.
Brown is in the middle of this saying, I know how to be great.

Speaker 3 I know how to be great within this greatness. We have won.
Look, this string of winning Philadelphia has done doesn't happen very often in football where you win 23 of 25.

Speaker 3 Like, these things break apart. A.J.
Brown is in the middle. We're sitting here talking about how does Russell Westbrook end up,

Speaker 3 how does LeBron James end up fitting in with a group of people when you've been the great thing the entire time.

Speaker 3 A.J. Brown is a mess around a team that should not have any messes given the level of success that they have.
But what happens when you getting yours conflicts with the team getting its?

Speaker 3 Like, what does happen there? What do you do with A.J. Brown if you're the Philadelphia Eagles and you have an unhappy superstar unhappy clearly, even though you've won 23 of 25?

Speaker 3 23 of 25?

Speaker 3 What do you do with that? How do you lead that?

Speaker 3 If you're Nick Siriani, how do you keep eating it in these press conferences where your star receiver in videos on social media is being like, this isn't for me. This isn't, I'm clearly not happy.

Speaker 14 So it'll be a stupid question. I'm just going to ask it anyway.

Speaker 14 Why can't they just throw the ball to A.J. Brown more?

Speaker 14 He's really good. Like, why can't they just throw it to him more?

Speaker 3 Three targets last week. Yeah.
13 yards, right?

Speaker 3 Sometimes it's not the most obvious thing. You know, hand the ball to Marshawn.
Who knows? Get the press conference. Got to take what the defense says.
All right. Excuse me.
All right. Look, I'm.

Speaker 3 Coming up on two minutes here. Coming up on two minutes.

Speaker 3 I know that already. I just said that.
You're aging, and I asked for your press conference materials. All you've been doing all show is chewing.
Does your jaw hurt? It actually does a lot.

Speaker 3 All you've been doing for three hours now is chewing. Chewing in the meeting before the show.
All right, let's do the press conference. Let's review the last hour.

Speaker 6 Go ahead.

Speaker 3 He looks haggard.

Speaker 12 You're in the shot.

Speaker 3 Really age. Sorry about that.
You're in the shot.

Speaker 3 PR guy. Coach.
here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, let me

Speaker 12 couple things here.

Speaker 12 Fall start on the first dentech. We got to clean that up.
We've got to clean that up.

Speaker 12 We'll hit that heavy in practice.

Speaker 12 We've got to learn to lay out too. Miscommunication.

Speaker 12 But we touched on all the sports.

Speaker 12 A lot of different looks. I thought Chris Cody bounced back,

Speaker 12 really responded to the adversity. I love to see that.

Speaker 3 Building a good locker room culture over here.

Speaker 12 Now we'll open it up to questions.

Speaker 3 Do you think you're actively keeping Amin from being distracted?

Speaker 12 He was a little rattled during the Amin Diddy thing.

Speaker 3 I tried to do what is called a callback.

Speaker 3 Why was there a whistle in the press conference from our bounce back player of the show, our comeback player of the show, Chris Cody?

Speaker 3 Why is there the mind is a press conference? Why? I've never heard somebody blow a coach's whistle in a press conference. Have you?

Speaker 16 Where's the question here?

Speaker 3 You're distracting Amin. Do you not notice it?

Speaker 12 Yeah, I mean, I could have... I wanted to see

Speaker 12 what kind of response he had for Amin Diddy.

Speaker 12 And we saw what Amin was made of. He had a great conversation about Kaminga.
I thought Zazzo made really good points.

Speaker 12 Got to finish a little stronger, no doubt, but to be able to counteract what Amin was throwing at him, real good job.

Speaker 14 Coach, you know about that, Diddy?

Speaker 5 That's it. No more questions.
We're done on that, by the way.

Speaker 2 Coach, thank you.

Speaker 6 Appreciate that.

Speaker 12 That's my time.

Speaker 3 You did Peter out. You realize that, right? You stumbled toward the...

Speaker 14 I did.

Speaker 14 I'm going to lose a little sleep over that tonight.

Speaker 3 i'm not gonna lie i'm gonna be lying in bed you know feeling good about the show for the most part and that that's gonna keep me up can we see how mike is age just trying to be in this cauldron for three hours of running both video and audio at the same time on the graphic this is staggering here this is real how he looked at the start and then that was hour two and that's now

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