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Speaker 20 Chris Cody, I really need you to be a strong leader today because I've got two things happening that feel

Speaker 22 cruddy, okay? And I need you to lead us here on this.

Speaker 22 One is I've got Lewis roaming around here saying how badly he needs this Chiefs money on Sunday, okay?

Speaker 24 I've got on the television, I can't believe what I'm seeing on the television, it says Chiefs

Speaker 25 must-win game.

Speaker 26 And I'm like, it is this week? The Chiefs have a must-win game.

Speaker 27 But for Lewis, it's a must-win game.

Speaker 28 For all of us, it's a must-win game then.

Speaker 8 I mean, but Lewis has like 17 kids.

Speaker 30 That's, yes.

Speaker 25 Lewis is the one, the only one in the office muttering, I really need that money while walking walking past me as if he doesn't think I can hear him.

Speaker 34 Like,

Speaker 35 I can feel that off him at all times, but it usually doesn't come out of his mouth.

Speaker 26 So the Chiefs game is a big game.

Speaker 36 But the other problem I have is, and I've been in negotiations with Eudonis Haslam, and he's expensive, and Mike's not helping.

Speaker 41 He's not helping things because I need someone to oversee the punishments in this league. And I don't know.

Speaker 41 what Mike was doing today, but he's just wearing a Raiders sweatshirt and saying he's peep carroll and that no one has honored the punishments more than mike ryan has uh okay i have honored every single punishment no matter how difficult and today

Speaker 3 is probably the most challenging thing i've ever had to do since freedom get the hell out of here i have to chew gum

Speaker 8 During the show the show just started.

Speaker 2 Shouldn't you be?

Speaker 8 Do you know how much gum I usually chew during the show?

Speaker 3 Zero. Zero.
Zero.

Speaker 3 There might be times during today's show where I have one, maybe two pieces of gum in my mouth while I'm talking.

Speaker 48 A lot of squatting, too.

Speaker 3 That is a choking hazard.

Speaker 8 It also represents a 200% increase in chewing gum that's in my mouth during these shows.

Speaker 48 Well, no, it's more than 200%. You went from zero to whatever it is.
That's an infinite.

Speaker 8 700%.

Speaker 8 More.

Speaker 10 You're the president of the United States now? Playing with percentages.

Speaker 48 Hey, Dan, are you excited for 50-year mortgages? That's how we're going to solve this. A 50-year mortgage.

Speaker 2 I mean, if you think about it.

Speaker 2 yeah, I just did.

Speaker 24 It's as good an idea as Zaz's

Speaker 51 Let's Rest Players in the First Half and Make The Play the Second.

Speaker 52 I'm dying on that hill.

Speaker 35 You just sound like

Speaker 33 you just sounded like you were dying on a Civil War hill.

Speaker 29 Bayonet in your chest.

Speaker 54 What happened to you? Was that the

Speaker 30 Ethan?

Speaker 20 Look, you and Ethan, the amount of cream cheese that you're costing Metal Arc is why I can't pay you, Donnis Haslam to govern

Speaker 41 this punishment list.

Speaker 48 Couple lucky J's.

Speaker 55 This is the Don Levatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 22 Tony's taunting me during the break, saying Eudonis Haslam has become Diana Rossini's grandpa Santa on the phone.

Speaker 22 That it's an empty threat that doesn't mean anything to anyone around here on the punishments.

Speaker 41 And Mike Ryan is actively, and this is disrespectful, and it's an act of resentment, honestly, that shouldn't express itself this way.

Speaker 26 I think he's Pete Carroll today.

Speaker 27 This doesn't feel like a real punishment, but the only one who gets punished is me, is because every time I'm talking, Mike is whispering into his headset, 57's the Mike.

Speaker 58 57's the mic, while covering his mouth with his play sheet, and he's trying to distract me from doing the show while also doing Pete Carroll not like Daniel Day-Lewis as Pete Carroll.

Speaker 30 He's not leaving character.

Speaker 3 Let's settle down. Take the air out of the ball.

Speaker 8 HP die. Big gap.

Speaker 27 That's what he's been doing every time I'm talking.

Speaker 2 Listen to safety run duo.

Speaker 38 He's doing it when I'm trying to give points and while I'm talking and trying to organize the show.

Speaker 27 So the team is actively playing defense against me today on a legitimately good content day because 24 hours later, how silly does this show sound?

Speaker 59 Laughing at the Warriors.

Speaker 23 and celebrating the Miami Heat.

Speaker 38 24 hours later, I don't know that I've heard someone do what Norman Powell did yesterday, where he's like, just put my name on the quote, that's a bad loss.

Speaker 30 Where that's something fans say?

Speaker 58 I rarely hear players say of losing to other professional players.

Speaker 42 Man,

Speaker 42 that's a bad loss.

Speaker 4 I love it. And he didn't even leave it at that.
He said it's a bad loss. That's a really bad loss.

Speaker 61 How often do you hear, he's right.

Speaker 45 You're losing to. Loved it.

Speaker 52 What did you love?

Speaker 4 No, I loved that he came out. and said that.
Yeah.

Speaker 26 Why are we sure? Oh, it's a professional team.

Speaker 4 You know, they got guys who know what. No, no.

Speaker 4 That's a really bad loss last night.

Speaker 52 Good for you, Norman Powell. I like you even more now.

Speaker 43 The headline is, Heat waste big lead, Wiltson, fourth quarter, in, quote, very bad loss to undermanned Cavs.

Speaker 27 Mobley is not there.

Speaker 49 Come on, man, Mitchell's not there.

Speaker 30 Like, that's not their team.

Speaker 45 Garland's not there.

Speaker 30 That's not their team.

Speaker 40 That's not.

Speaker 62 What?

Speaker 58 I thought the Heats bet, like, you can't.

Speaker 30 You're undefeated at home.

Speaker 32 Like, explain that to me.

Speaker 6 So it's a very bad loss.

Speaker 26 And they were five and a half point favorites in the game with all of the Cavs back home because the Cavs were

Speaker 58 that's as close to tanking as a team will do overtly, is it not?

Speaker 42 Just sending its starters home like that.

Speaker 48 Zaz, you know about that Naquan Tomman?

Speaker 4 That's a made-up name.

Speaker 36 We want to do a spelling bee on Naquan.

Speaker 41 How do we spell it?

Speaker 29 I mean, I know the way y'all looking at me.

Speaker 59 I'll take a try. I'll take a step.
Here we go.

Speaker 4 N-A-Q.

Speaker 48 Nope.

Speaker 3 You sure?

Speaker 8 Thanks for playing. That's how you spell Saquon.

Speaker 27 Very bad loss, Norman Powell says.

Speaker 32 You guys, well, I'm not saying it's the rarest of things, but it's normal for fans to say, wow, that's a bad loss.

Speaker 43 You rarely hear it in the locker room where a player will say that of other professionals.

Speaker 44 Generally, they respect the other team's backups.

Speaker 4 No, I like it. I wish sometimes a player would come out and say, yeah, that's a really bad loss.
That team sucks. We should have won.

Speaker 48 Sometimes you do hear that when it's a team that's actually bad as opposed to a team that sat all of its starters. But I'm with Zaz, man.
I like the accountability. I like this.

Speaker 48 Hey, man, this is, we're not going to shirk this.

Speaker 43 We dropped the ball.

Speaker 48 They were up double digits in the first half. But then I'm watching the game all night.

Speaker 52 I'm like, this doesn't feel right.

Speaker 48 It's a lot of ISO ball.

Speaker 37 They were so sloppy.

Speaker 48 So much ISO isolation from the heat, even when it was working for them. And then the other thing was, at one point, I looked at the person next to me.
I'm like, is this the Jared Allen game?

Speaker 48 Because he just looked like Hakeem down there. Everything around the rim.
I'm like, look, you can't keep falling for an upfake from Jared Allen. Make him make a shot over you.

Speaker 21 And this is a substantive difference between whatever Ware is athletically that Bam isn't, but what Ware is defensively that Bam isn't.

Speaker 27 Like, this is not a minimal piece that's out for the Miami Heat.

Speaker 61 But regardless, yesterday, we were out here loud and proud on what the Heat are going to be.

Speaker 30 because they were undefeated at home and they're still scoring an incredible amount per game, but you lose that game and then Steph Curry does Steph Curry at Wemby and 24 hours later, we all sound ridiculous talking about basketball in 24-hour terms.

Speaker 20 This is a punishment for you.

Speaker 22 It's a punishment for you.

Speaker 48 You got to raise it. You're like Steve Spagnola.
You know how you're holding a sheet down here. It's got to be punished.

Speaker 7 What is the punishment? That you're chewing gum during the show or that you're doing the Pete Carroll?

Speaker 57 Which is the punishment?

Speaker 7 Okay, the punishment is peep carol. Yeah, and the gum is part of being peep carol.

Speaker 4 200% more gum.

Speaker 7 I have to spend an hour in the bathroom putting on makeup with my wife to get my costume ready. You throw on a Raiders jersey and a headset and throw some gum in your mouth.

Speaker 8 And I ate 70 nuggets.

Speaker 8 Well, I've learned, and I also took a gummy before the show.

Speaker 3 Just to emotionally prepare for how difficult.

Speaker 28 And the makeup stuff at Kupaduya.

Speaker 3 I mean, what do you want me to do? There are punishments on the bucket bucket board and I take the punishments and I do the punishments and I've done more punishments than anybody else.

Speaker 56 Alright, so when you say what do you want me to do, it doesn't surprise me that you don't wait for an answer and then you tell me what the answer is on what do you want me to do.

Speaker 26 What I want you to do is respect the audience and the punishment.

Speaker 2 Excellence is not an act.

Speaker 3 Respect.

Speaker 27 Respect the punishments and the audience by putting some effort into it.

Speaker 3 I've done it.

Speaker 7 We are a watched and listened to show, an entertainment option for people, and you are cheating the punishments and the audience when you do the pete carroll this way you should be ashamed to give me a break

Speaker 3 can can you give me a break

Speaker 61 anyway the basketball stories

Speaker 32 take the time he called a timeout that's the same sound as the penalty box don't distract me be on my team please someone here be on my team he called a timeout what do you want me to do the nba has 10 games in

Speaker 62 You have blow up the clippers.

Speaker 63 It's so distracting.

Speaker 45 Yeah, no, he's been doing it in my ear.

Speaker 66 It's been private. It's been private.

Speaker 3 I've just been holding the private communications button, chewing in his ear.

Speaker 58 Just chewing in my ear and also putting the play sheet over him.

Speaker 33 And it sounds like a faraway air traffic controller when he's like, no, no, no.

Speaker 32 79's the mic.

Speaker 68 79's the money.

Speaker 35 59's the mic.

Speaker 17 Just doing it to you.

Speaker 38 They dropped a D-lineman?

Speaker 58 No, this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 67 It's meant to distract me.

Speaker 65 I'm thinking in my ear, talking to you guys.

Speaker 2 I'm like, you don't put a D-lineman in the mic, but you dropping back the nose test tackle.

Speaker 45 You're confusing me with the defense.

Speaker 67 What is the nose tackle doing in coverage?

Speaker 69 One time, Gino.

Speaker 2 One time.

Speaker 45 So I'm having an argument with the show in my head, and this is what it's like to be in an insane asylum where you hear voices in your head because it's not just chewing gum.

Speaker 42 He's also throwing mock plays at me, decoy plays at me.

Speaker 38 It's not just normal plays.

Speaker 70 You got to be ready, Dano.

Speaker 62 So I've got blow up the mavs, blow up the clippers, okay?

Speaker 58 You got Mark Cubitt getting back into management.

Speaker 33 Gonna have some reportedly more voice around the Mavs as they try to fix what is trade.

Speaker 50 Amin is calling a crater trade.

Speaker 44 You have the possibility of your franchise being doomed for 30 years.

Speaker 32 Amina's shouting from the mountaintops: Do you know what's been done here?

Speaker 31 We're sitting here watching the smoldering crater, and Amin's hey, hey, it's a lot worse than this.

Speaker 58 This is now. It's hard to dig out of this if Cooper Flag doesn't end up becoming Luca.

Speaker 57 So you got

Speaker 31 blow up the Mavs.

Speaker 58 You got Jason Kidd. Can we play this sound?

Speaker 40 You got Jason Kidd saying, the Mavs coach.

Speaker 65 Go ahead and play the sound and this will uh drown everyone in leadership in dallas if they continue to underestimate how mad their customers are like this is not the america to insult your customers when they pay a lot of money to support you by telling them to move on when they don't want to move on okay hit it you know you only hope uh that we don't have to go through that again um because it was a little disrespectful um because the guys are playing hard and they're trying to win

Speaker 71 And so with that chant during one we're shooting free those,

Speaker 71 but understanding that they got their point across, the fans,

Speaker 71 but we have to move forward. I understand the healing process for the fans, but these guys are playing hard ever since the trade.

Speaker 71 These guys have given everything.

Speaker 3 Got a timeout.

Speaker 2 You're clear.

Speaker 56 Zaslow, when I hear Jason Kidd, and he doesn't mean this as lecturing, he's going to protect his players, but this bubble is getting smaller and smaller that these guys are allowed to exist in.

Speaker 2 Bubble.

Speaker 51 And they're in the rarest of places.

Speaker 38 They're in

Speaker 22 our customers are coming to the arena and they kind of hate us.

Speaker 51 And it's not because we're bad.

Speaker 47 They just want a place to kind of hate something because of how mad they are.

Speaker 56 Not a lot of teams play at home that way.

Speaker 4 I totally hear everything you're saying. And I understand it can be hurtful for the franchise where, let's say, you know, you got, you want to try and acquire a free agent.

Speaker 4 And then they think, wow, do I want to go there where our own fans are going to hate us every game? That's certainly not going to help acquire players. But...

Speaker 4 I don't feel like being lectured by Jason Kidd if I'm a Mavericks fan who had my heart ripped out. And now, because we got our point across, it's time to move on.

Speaker 4 Like, there's going to be a time when Jason Kidd is no longer the coach of the Mavericks. And that's, I'm not saying that he's going to get fired anytime soon.
That's every coach in the league.

Speaker 4 There's going to be a time where he is no longer the coach of the Mavericks. And guess how little he's going to care about the Mavericks on a day-to-day basis? He's not going to.

Speaker 4 But all of those fans who are in the building who have yet to move on, they care about that team for the rest of their lives. Don't tell me not to be angry and to move on.

Speaker 35 All right, tighten it up.

Speaker 20 When you say ripped out the hearts of your customers, I do think that one of the things that you guys just have to, especially if you have kids,

Speaker 22 that you just have to imagine, just imagine explaining to your kid who's wearing the Luca jersey why your team did what it did.

Speaker 20 And that's his generation of fandom that's beginning or hers that's beginning right there.

Speaker 27 I mean, your thoughts on what is happening there.

Speaker 48 These people have the risk of being swallowed by continuing to underestimate the damage they've done well I think first of all I got to disagree with Zaz like Jason Kidd's point is apt regardless if Nico is still there or not

Speaker 48 that that has nothing to do with anybody on the floor matter of fact none of them even have control over that they are all subordinates to a decision that is happening far above them so how does

Speaker 48 it's not he's saying don't chant it he's saying The game's on the line and our guy is on the fito line.

Speaker 52 What's going on?

Speaker 48 Our guy's on the fito line. Why are you distracting him? Why are you actively giving him negative energy? PJ Washington had nothing to do with this.
And that's the question right there.

Speaker 48 So I agree with Coach Kidd. It's like, there's a time and place to do it.
And that was the wrong time.

Speaker 4 So is the team three and nine because the fans are being mean?

Speaker 48 They weren't booing like, boo, you guys suck. They're saying, fire Nico.

Speaker 48 That's very different.

Speaker 33 Let me ask you, though, I mean, is there another team in the league

Speaker 41 presently playing at home under the hostility I'm speaking of?

Speaker 31 It's not that we're mad at you because we think you're bad.

Speaker 58 This is a place for us to vent at what you did to us.

Speaker 48 You're also bad, by the way.

Speaker 48 No, I mean, obviously not.

Speaker 48 There's no team that even comes close to this because, again, nobody has ever pretty much done a deal like this in real time.

Speaker 52 So don't tell the fans to move on.

Speaker 48 But again, like, hey, if you want to boo Nico, if you want to boo Patrick DeMont, sure.

Speaker 48 Even if you want to boo the team, but the game

Speaker 48 was not in hand, excuse me. It was in the balance.
The guy has a chance to make free throws and win this game. Why are you actively playing defense against that? I think that's the point.

Speaker 70 And to that point, at what point is it going to be enough? Right? It's the whole season?

Speaker 52 Probably when the team is

Speaker 52 good.

Speaker 4 Probably when they're good.

Speaker 35 What if they're not going to go for another five years?

Speaker 68 But guys,

Speaker 38 the reason I keep thinking that this is being underestimated emotionally, it's just super rare for a fan base to want to punish its team because it's mad at its team because they want to blame somebody.

Speaker 30 So we don't care if we win during this season because miss the free throws because bleep all of you.

Speaker 65 That's why I'm going to the game to go and get into the crowd and have my outrage fed so that I can have lighter fluid.

Speaker 32 The country's paying attention to me.

Speaker 30 We have a bonfire in Dallas.

Speaker 58 Mark Cuban's rushing into the rescue. I got it.
I'll save them.

Speaker 32 And everyone in Dallas is hurt, wounded, and lashing out at the home team.

Speaker 48 So Zaz,

Speaker 48 a comp is when Portland had the quote-unquote jailblazers, right? Their players were getting in trouble, getting arrested. Meanwhile, the team also wasn't so good, right?

Speaker 48 That's a situation where I'm like, okay, you can boo them. Yeah.
You boo them because they are responsible. They are the ones who are doing this stuff.

Speaker 48 PJ Washington, Cooper Flat, these guys have nothing to do with the workings of higher up. P.J.
Washington, either P.J Washington, like, yeah, trade Luca. I'd love to to get him out of here.

Speaker 48 Those guys, of course, they want to play with Luca. Of course, they'd love to have him.

Speaker 4 So you're telling me when PJ Washington's on the free throw line, a professional basketball player who plays half his games on the road where the entire crowd is chanting and yelling and booing and wanting you to miss free throws, the crowd chanting fire Nico is so disrespectful and distracting for him, he can't make free throws, even when he knows it's coming.

Speaker 48 It is, it is jarring. He doesn't know it's coming in that moment.

Speaker 2 You're at home. They're doing a real game.
12 ma'am.

Speaker 48 You're at home. And again,

Speaker 35 you're at home.

Speaker 48 And this isn't third quarter free throws. This is crunch time free throws.
And you're like, wait, do they want us to lose? What's happening here?

Speaker 48 That is a jarring experience that I don't think most NBA players would expect in that scenario.

Speaker 4 Do you think Jason Kidd really thinks that part of the reason that they're not playing well is because the crowd is chanting?

Speaker 48 They're three and nine. No, I just think it's like, hey, we're already having a hard enough time.
We've got all these injuries or whatever. It doesn't help to have, you know, fans doing this.
this.

Speaker 4 It definitely doesn't help, but stop telling fans what to do when they're the ones who are, they're the ones who are the victims, the fans.

Speaker 57 But so, Zaz, they are not helping in this, in this regard, right?

Speaker 38 I don't, I don't know how many people listening to this believe in any kind of energy stuff, okay?

Speaker 48 Zaz, this is the analogy I'll give you. If Dan Lebatar did something

Speaker 17 to

Speaker 48 upset me, would it be okay for me to slap Mike?

Speaker 2 Whoa.

Speaker 26 Well, if I get all part of the team,

Speaker 48 I'm gonna slap Mike, right? Like that, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Percy Harvin choking out players in a locker room. You won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 It happens. Ethan's dog?

Speaker 32 When we're talking about energy as it relates, I mean, honestly, it's not bad enough.

Speaker 38 He's trying to distract me. You go in with Ethan's dog is the joke, knowing you're going to annoy me.

Speaker 42 Knowing you're going to annoy me because you're going so inside on a joke for six people.

Speaker 31 It's not enough that Mike's doing this.

Speaker 57 When I talk about energy stuff, Saz, I'm not talking about spiritual stuff, okay?

Speaker 39 I'm talking about everyone listening to this believes what I'm about to say.

Speaker 50 Home field advantage is a thing because the energy of the crowd matters because the crowd gets into the game and supports its home team.

Speaker 47 That support is worth something.

Speaker 42 You're going to tell me the opposite of that does not affect players trying to be professionals at the center of that crater?

Speaker 60 Like, you can argue it if you want, but if they're playing in a place that's a misery energetically where their own fans are not there for support, holy, that's not an atmosphere I'm used to seeing basketball teams play at home in.

Speaker 48 Right, Dan. I think the important distinction is home energy positive is what we believe.

Speaker 52 Road energy negative.

Speaker 48 We also expect that. Reggie Miller, LeBron James, all these players are like, oh, I love it when they start booing, right? It fuels me.

Speaker 48 The thing that I don't think any professional athlete in any sport is prepared for is home crowd negative energy.

Speaker 4 I think what we could all agree on, though, because what you're saying is fine and it obviously makes sense. But I think what we could all agree on is this is as unique a situation we have ever seen.

Speaker 4 And in this unique situation, there's one person who is the victim here and it's the fans. And I don't want...

Speaker 4 the players or the coaches who are the ones getting paid when the fans who are showing up and apparently being disrespectful to you are still the ones paying to see you.

Speaker 4 I don't want the fan being told what to do.

Speaker 21 Okay, but the next step on that, you're correct, right?

Speaker 16 I think most people listening to this would say, yeah, the fans paying customer,

Speaker 37 don't tell me how to care.

Speaker 6 I care. I pay for everything.

Speaker 4 And they're doing it because they care.

Speaker 24 My care pays for everything here.

Speaker 30 But when I'm describing the following to you, Jason Kidd is saying from at the bottom of this thing, ostensibly they all care about,

Speaker 58 hey guys, that's not helping.

Speaker 58 I need those free throws at the end to get all of this out of my building.

Speaker 54 I'm under the avalanche, too.

Speaker 44 I work here.

Speaker 30 It hurts me, too.

Speaker 58 Please stop doing that so that when my guys are taking free throws at home, not whether it affects them or not, we don't have the energy of that's not support.

Speaker 42 Our customers are not with us.

Speaker 24 Like, if you guys believe that this is an emotional relationship between fans and

Speaker 60 their businesses, and that it's the emotions business.

Speaker 27 This is a betrayal of that to have inside of your building the energy of the home team doesn't want you to win, doesn't want to help you.

Speaker 33 The home team is there to blame you and making it worse, it makes the entire relationship deeply emotionally dysfunctional.

Speaker 32 The home fan is not there rooting against his or her team.

Speaker 30 All right, we're stuck here.

Speaker 3 Got to move on.

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Speaker 64 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 69 I went in the margins. I'm like, I'm like.

Speaker 70 You're money ball of sex?

Speaker 74 Yeah, I'm basically Scott Hatter. A lot of walking.

Speaker 64 Stugats. A lot of walks.

Speaker 49 But I'm on base.

Speaker 35 When it comes to sex, a lot of foul.

Speaker 74 Other dudes, they can be Giombi.

Speaker 70 You know your role you play with?

Speaker 49 I know my role.

Speaker 55 This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Speaker 4 Well, and it's it's probably why you need to blow it up.

Speaker 3 Run game not working.

Speaker 4 Like, we need to start.

Speaker 43 Okay, so what does that look like?

Speaker 70 What does that look like? GM Jazz comes in. He's like, all right, the full gambit of everything is at my disposal.
What do I do?

Speaker 4 I would trade Anthony Davis today. Today.

Speaker 27 That's not getting very much hurt.

Speaker 26 You're basically trading Luca for nothing. You sent Anthony Davis away.

Speaker 25 You're not going to get very much.

Speaker 48 So this is a really important conversation because at the same time, the Clippers are dealing with their own issues. Bradley Beal is out for the year with a hip injury.

Speaker 6 There we go.

Speaker 48 They're horrible. Quizman out, right? And so we were talking who needs to blow it up more.
The problem is the Clippers, because of the Paul George deal from way, way back, still owe picks.

Speaker 48 So they can't blow it up, even if they got a zillion assets in return. Because if they go

Speaker 48 into the toilet, you know what happens, Dan? If they go in the toilet,

Speaker 48 the best team in the league

Speaker 48 gets Gets like the number one overall pick. Meanwhile, Dallas, Dallas actually owns its pick this year, but after this year, it turns into swaps and pick obligations.
So this is the time right now.

Speaker 48 You push a red button in Dallas. You've given yourself an opportunity to start building something.
You're not going to get equal return, Dan, as you asked right there.

Speaker 52 But they had their pick this year.

Speaker 48 At this point, it's not about, I mean, it's not for other mistakes.

Speaker 37 It's not that they're not going to get equal return.

Speaker 44 Right now, you will be trading what what you got for Luca, what you told everybody in the league was the future that we get for Luka.

Speaker 30 You'd be trading it at its lowest value in the career of Anthony Davis.

Speaker 48 Dan, you can't keep digging a hole and thinking if I dig deeper, maybe I'll get out of the hole.

Speaker 4 Jason Kidd told us to move on.

Speaker 49 So move on from the awful trade.

Speaker 37 Dan, Anthony Davis is a top 75 player all time.

Speaker 31 You trade him for nothing, and what are you going to get for him, Amim?

Speaker 48 Dan, this is the moment.

Speaker 48 It's more about the timing than it is what i'm gonna get for him right if i wait until his value goes up i may have jeopardized the one small window of time we've got a a very tight window to turn keys and push that nuclear option outside of that window we can't have that option available so it's it's more about the timing and whoever comes in to take control you can't be worried about what the other guy before you did to mess this up all i can do is do the best thing moving forward from this point on and right now the best thing moving forward, probably for Dallas, 11, 12 games in is blow it up.

Speaker 70 On the Clippers end of it, though, you're talking about they don't have the luxury that Dallas has to get their first round pick, right? So

Speaker 70 it's not good for them to blow it up this season.

Speaker 43 The problem is they're already in the toilet, right?

Speaker 70 Kawhi is going to be out for who knows how long. He's got a foot sprain and an ankle sprain.
The team is just not good. Bradley Beal out for the season.

Speaker 70 Like you have all these things that are pushing, the inertia is pushing you that way anyway. Why not? And I know Tom Havastro wrote this in the summer.
What did he say? Go, go trade Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 70 Go get somebody else. Go trade him to the Pelicans for Zion Williamson.

Speaker 70 Like, there's plays to be made that, yeah, you're not going to be exactly what you need, but like, you got to get out from the hole that you're in.

Speaker 48 So there is a blueprint for this. The Nets, when they traded for Paul Pearson, Kevin Garnett, and Jason Terry, they had all those picks going out unprotected, all those pick swaps.

Speaker 48 And so once they figured out, oh, this isn't working, all you can do is build like the most rugged competitive team. The picks are gone.

Speaker 48 You can't say that, but all you can do is build a team that's going to be healthy and available and win games in the short term to make sure those picks are the 10th pick as opposed to the 10th pick.

Speaker 59 Can I just stop all of you for a second, okay?

Speaker 22 Because I know we run from 10 games to 10 games in sports with just blinders on.

Speaker 16 And so many people not that long ago wanted Bradley Beal.

Speaker 57 And now Bradley Beal has sabotaged a couple of different plans.

Speaker 36 And in the middle of those those plans, I don't want to just skip past this Clippers part of it.

Speaker 21 Pablo detonates a bomb in the middle of that.

Speaker 56 All of us are a little confused by why would the Clippers trade Norman Powell for Kyle Anderson and Kevin Love when he's an important almost all-star on three delicate pieces there that nobody trusts before him.

Speaker 39 You guys are telling me after I thought that the Clippers had a championship chance last season, the way that they finished the season 33 and 13 and could have beaten any team in the league.

Speaker 33 And it wasn't an asinine opinion to have, except but for it's the Clippers and you can't trust James Leonard, Kawhi Leonard or James Harden in game seven.

Speaker 37 You guys are telling me six months later, all of the Clippers stuff is done and we can pronounce it now, given specifically the part that we're ignoring, which is OKC is totally overwhelming.

Speaker 35 Totally overwhelming.

Speaker 69 You mean telling them about John Collins?

Speaker 48 Yeah, they didn't trade for Kyle Anderson, Kevin Love. It was a three-way deal.
They got John Collins from Utah in that deal.

Speaker 37 Thank you for the addition the clippers you're telling me are now a

Speaker 49 nuked thing

Speaker 30 fried thing

Speaker 70 finished as a product blow all of it up when i was not asinine in saying that that team could have won the championship the one that headed into the playoffs slash no 100 and they played so well to end the season the problem is that's what it is for championship windows with guys in their mid-30s right the window is open one year and then the next year it is completely shut and then you're looking around saying not only do we have an issue with the NBA who's looking up under every crevice we got about the aspiration situation, Kawhi is not even healthy now.

Speaker 70 James Harden's okay, he's good. Like you can get something for him.
Zubats has been bad to start the year. Like Norman Powell's not there.
John Collins is an okay piece off the bench.

Speaker 70 Like what do you have in the Clippers organization?

Speaker 4 It's a really old team. Leonard, Harden, Bradley, Beale, Brooke Lopez.

Speaker 62 They got Chris Paul's corpse.

Speaker 52 You know they have Chris Paul's corpse coming off the bench?

Speaker 48 Dan, I did a bid a long time ago about Doc Rivers' decision tree process. It's like, hey, did you play for me 100 years ago?

Speaker 68 Come back.

Speaker 48 Welcome to the Clippers, right? And it's funny, he's not there anymore, but it's still the same kind of thing. When you're playing scrapbook GM, like, oh, I remember him.

Speaker 48 Remember when he was good somewhere else? Brooklo. Oh, look at the names he just said.
Other than John Collins, who's young?

Speaker 68 Who's somewhere else?

Speaker 48 He's close to their prime. They're playing off of memories.
And yes, those guys are all still very good basketball players.

Speaker 48 But the other part of this, Dan, is when you go and get old guy after old guy after old guy, you're saying, oh, by the way, Father Time will come around here with a sprained ankle or a broken hip.

Speaker 50 But do you guys realize what you're saying?

Speaker 61 If you guys are right, if you guys are accurate in saying demolish everything with the Clippers, when I pair it to what OKC is doing at the start of this season and after last season, we're over here talking about this Luca trade again and again and again.

Speaker 58 And this other one's going to go down as one of the worst we've ever seen in the history of sports because you've just given so much fuel to OKC that when you're bad this year and it blows up on Steve Ballmer's face, you've got the legitimate possibility.

Speaker 42 I think there are worse teams in the league, but if it's really bad with the Clippers this year, then you're gonna be giving the number one overall pick to a team that already has two key pieces out and has lost one time this season.

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Speaker 64 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 48 If Daniel Day-Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

Speaker 49 Oh, come on.

Speaker 74 Yeah, I would be.

Speaker 17 Aggressive description.

Speaker 50 I mean, what is that?

Speaker 48 I'm just saying.

Speaker 53 No, no, no. You're just saying what?

Speaker 2 That's me.

Speaker 17 Daniel Day-Lewis does something.

Speaker 74 I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln.

Speaker 28 And you know what I do?

Speaker 64 I mean,

Speaker 64 I jerk off all over myself.

Speaker 29 That's what I do.

Speaker 38 Lincoln, who you outed the other day.

Speaker 28 Don't make this a rejoin.

Speaker 55 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 48 By the way, another team we haven't talked about at all, but is in a similar situation, the New Orleans Pelicans, because their pick is going to Atlanta. And they're awful this year.

Speaker 4 Good job by Joe DuMars.

Speaker 48 Zion's still fat. And well, he's not still fat, but he's still not healthy, right? And Derrick Queen, while he looks like a a good player, is not

Speaker 49 NBA.

Speaker 48 Yeah, he's not enough to lift the Pelicans beyond where they're at right now, which is a 2-9 team.

Speaker 48 And so this, Dan, is just like the ballot of, hey, when you give away a pick without protection, you are playing the most dangerous game in basketball.

Speaker 4 By the way, it's not just this pick, this 26 first-round pick, that the Thunder have from the Clippers. That's unprotected.
They also have their pick next year.

Speaker 4 It's a swap next year, but like, if the Clippers are really bad again, the Thunder, get it again.

Speaker 48 Zaz, this is my whole Nico thing. It's like, you can't tell me that Anthony Davison won first-round pick, even if you think Anthony Davis is the best thing since sliced bread.

Speaker 48 You can't tell me that was good enough value when the Clippers are still paying off for Paul Jordan. They still have installments left on their label.

Speaker 4 See, my biggest thing with that was also...

Speaker 4 There was no time in that conversation that Nico Harrison said, you're also going to give us Austin Reeves. Like,

Speaker 4 Rob Polinka, who had this gift fall on his doorstep you think he's not acquiring Luka Duncich because he won't hand over Austin Reeves do you think Rob Palinka is going to be the guy say hey I could have had Luka

Speaker 48 right I didn't want to give up Austin Reeves like it's inexplicable right it but this goes back to kind of what I talked about yesterday when I read the quote from Jeremiah Sengelman who used to work in the front office when you surround yourself over the course of years, not just in that window of time, but over the course of years with people who don't tell you the realness, who don't provide critical feedback that is opposite of whatever your impulse is.

Speaker 48 I used to say, when I worked in a front office, as people always ask, oh, what did you do? Did you make trades? Did you draft people? Like, no, I'm not the GM. I don't do that.

Speaker 48 My job was to provide enough critical evidence to the contrary of whatever you wanted to do.

Speaker 16 A little too much mean.

Speaker 48 Well, I'm just saying.

Speaker 20 Play the Barkley sound here because he is defending Nico Harrison.

Speaker 41 And

Speaker 47 I am probably remiss in falling into the trap that we do with all of the NBA soap opera, which is

Speaker 62 blow up the Clippers, blow up Dallas, nobody pay attention.

Speaker 47 That's Jokish putting up 55 to end the Clippers last night. That's

Speaker 70 like a 90% true shooting mode.

Speaker 35 But I mean, I'm

Speaker 33 the top two players that I believe that all of us would say for the last three years, the best two teams in the league are OKC and Dallas and Boston snuck in there with like this spaceship that just took threes better than everybody else.

Speaker 6 Let's run a play for Roy.

Speaker 12 Oh, the Panthers play tonight against the Washington Capitals.

Speaker 2 That's my play right there. I'm like, thank you.

Speaker 3 Gotcha, guy. Kind of like Taysom Mill.

Speaker 17 Audible out of this.

Speaker 48 We are.

Speaker 49 Good idea.

Speaker 35 Thank you. You've thrown the quarterback.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 Let's not go back to him.

Speaker 35 It was just a terrible blank call.

Speaker 72 I don't understand why on third and 11 you made me spike the ball when there were no clock issues going on.

Speaker 2 Now you gotta go for it on fourth.

Speaker 66 But I hit fourth and 11.

Speaker 35 That's not good to Marshawn.

Speaker 67 I don't trust my coach because he just told me to spike it and we weren't even dealing with a clock situation.

Speaker 66 I don't understand why he made me throw the ball out.

Speaker 2 Take it out of the playbook. All right.

Speaker 48 Dan.

Speaker 38 We're paying attention to the wrong thing.

Speaker 48 Okay, so let's pay attention to the right things. If I ask you, what do you think Nikola Jokic is shooting from the field this season?

Speaker 3 It's crazy.

Speaker 52 Don't say that.

Speaker 6 100%.

Speaker 29 Oh, what are you doing?

Speaker 48 He knows how to play this game.

Speaker 38 How, how, yeah, I mean, every time I work.

Speaker 24 his bad games are he went nine for 10.

Speaker 48 So give me a number.

Speaker 49 Give me a number.

Speaker 26 Well, okay, I'll say 58%.

Speaker 48 He's shooting 68% from the field.

Speaker 41 It's insane. That would be better than anyone ever, right?

Speaker 48 He's shooting 42% from three.

Speaker 48 He's shooting 78%

Speaker 48 on non-three-point shots. So he's taking about 12 of those shots a game inside the three-point line and shooting 78%.

Speaker 4 That one has to be a record, right?

Speaker 26 Well, no, but shooting, if you shot 68% for a season, I don't.

Speaker 4 DeAndre Jordan, you're waiting for like 75%.

Speaker 37 Okay, but I'm talking about somebody who's

Speaker 59 talking about.

Speaker 4 No, but still, 78% Jokic twos is better than DeAndre Jordan.

Speaker 37 But 78, shooting 78% from twos is ridiculous, but having an efficiency from all of the floor of 68%,

Speaker 60 there's nobody.

Speaker 40 Michael Jordan's best seasons would be at 58%, 57%.

Speaker 54 There's nobody who...

Speaker 38 On two-pointers?

Speaker 48 I think, yeah, Jordan was pretty high, obviously, on two-pointers, but not that high. Because, again.

Speaker 30 That would be a record field goal percentage.

Speaker 23 That's not sustainable.

Speaker 20 He can't do that.

Speaker 32 LeBron's best season was the one in Miami where he shot 58% from the field because he decided that season, I'm not going to play a game that allows for inefficient shots.

Speaker 2 Jordan LeBron, good stuff.

Speaker 70 Wilt in the 71-72 season shot 72% from the field.

Speaker 16 Okay, because, all right, but we know what that is.

Speaker 47 That's not shooting.

Speaker 22 That's a lot of dunking and being bigger than everyone else.

Speaker 38 But I think that's

Speaker 70 the best comparison, though?

Speaker 8 Chomarant, right?

Speaker 44 Well, the only reason it's not the best comparison is because Jokic is shooting what he is from three. Will Chamberlain never took a three.

Speaker 42 Will Chamberlain would never shoot from every three?

Speaker 46 I mean, that's the air of the conversation.

Speaker 70 Air conversation. Put that in.

Speaker 25 The thing that I am just saying, I mean, is we will not stop talking about Jalen Brunson limped off the court.

Speaker 27 We will not stop talking about the daily soap operas of what's happening in Dallas.

Speaker 36 We will not stop talking about Steph and LeBron, but the best teams are not the best stories.

Speaker 57 And so Denver and OKC and all of that excellence will turn to ashes around all the other.

Speaker 35 Correct?

Speaker 39 Like no, that during the regular season, there is nothing OKC can do. That may be threaten the record of 73 wins in a season, but there's next to nothing OKC can do that will matter.

Speaker 39 Their regular season is not interesting to the public.

Speaker 4 No, you just named it, like threatening the 73 wins. That's the thing, and they're certainly on pace for it.

Speaker 48 And I think the manner in which they're winning, I mean, again, they beat the Lakers, who have been good this year, and everyone's been really excited and inspired by them.

Speaker 48 They smacked them, and again, Shea Goes Alexander scores 30, and again, he doesn't play the fourth quarter.

Speaker 48 And so, at some point, this is going to sound kind of crazy, it becomes bad TV because if every game is a blowout, then it's really hard to keep people tuned in.

Speaker 8 All right, we got two minutes here.

Speaker 24 The part that I find most interesting is storylines.

Speaker 16 Gotta go quick. Bang against excellence.

Speaker 47 Boston snuck in there for a year and took the

Speaker 32 you need me to talk fast.

Speaker 29 We gotta go, Dan.

Speaker 34 Roy, Roy, what should I do?

Speaker 2 Audible out of it. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 69 Don't go to Roy. Come to the Roy.

Speaker 17 We don't have an Audible. Don't go to Roy.
Don't go to Roy.

Speaker 24 OKC is not going to be talked about this season, and they're going to be better than everybody again.

Speaker 30 They're winning by 30.

Speaker 33 They're not like they had the two overtime games at the beginning of the season, but they're dragging everybody.

Speaker 4 How did they lose that one game to Portland?

Speaker 46 Didn't have anybody play.

Speaker 48 No, they played. They played there, guys.

Speaker 48 What happened in Portland was they played against a Portland team that they were playing on a back-to-back

Speaker 35 home city west.

Speaker 49 Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 No one rested?

Speaker 48 Nobody rested. Wow.
And they lost that.

Speaker 20 Did you just make that up? Did you from that seat just make up that nobody played in that game?

Speaker 35 Who?

Speaker 4 I didn't say it. Tony did.

Speaker 62 Mike did.

Speaker 31 Tony just pointed at Mike.

Speaker 2 I didn't say it.

Speaker 17 What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Thought we could trust Roy in

Speaker 3 that situation. Really thought we could.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Thought we could trust him.

Speaker 35 I have a lot of

Speaker 35 red.

Speaker 29 You know, it starts with me.

Speaker 2 I made the call. I made the call to go to Roy.

Speaker 69 Panthers didn't play last night.

Speaker 3 I should have known that.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 29 he's a lot like Leroy Hoard.

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Speaker 69 And I just got to do a better job there.

Speaker 2 Thought the fans were great.

Speaker 2 A couple calls are going to go our way.

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Speaker 2 Probably stayed on basketball way too long.

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Speaker 2 That's

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