Hour 1: 66 Nuggets (feat. Jessica Smetana)

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Speaker 16 Speaking of dangerous games, we bring in Jessica Smithano. Yay!

Speaker 4 Yeah!

Speaker 16 Jessica, before we get into the college football playoff rankings, version 1.0, we're having a discussion all show long about how many nuggets

Speaker 16 consists of an appropriate level of punishment for one Christopher Cody. He's supposed to eat 99 during the show.
He's up to 49 right now, which is actually great pace.

Speaker 17 50 down the hatch.

Speaker 16 There it is.

Speaker 12 Going ahead crunched the air fryer.

Speaker 16 Oh, the air fryer.

Speaker 16 But Jessica, so the question is, does he have to do all 99 for us to consider the punishment complete? Or is there like a passing grade somewhere at some point?

Speaker 18 Or is 99 actually, you're just giving him a free lunch for the day?

Speaker 18 Is that also up for debate? That's a year.

Speaker 16 That's what I thought. But apparently he says he doesn't eat that much in general.

Speaker 18 Well, I guess it depends on the temperature of the nuggets. I think colder nuggets is more of a punishment than hot, crispy nuggets.
I think it depends on if he's allowed to use various sauces.

Speaker 16 He's allowed to use sauces.

Speaker 12 He's just gone dry. He hasn't used barely any sauce.
We just warmed up the nuggets, so those are hot and crispy.

Speaker 9 Both grilled and crispy are both warm.

Speaker 17 Jess, the first 25 I was cooking. I was cooking with gas.
I was confident. The last 25 have been a struggle.

Speaker 18 Is it safe to eat this many nuggets? Have we involved

Speaker 18 any regulatory work bodies? Okay, we also don't have that. Yeah.
Yeah, it's Florida.

Speaker 18 It just seems like a lot of sodium.

Speaker 8 Yes, it does.

Speaker 4 That's that I'm concerned about. They all be fine.

Speaker 20 It sounds like Jess thinks I'm good.

Speaker 17 50, like I made a valiant effort.

Speaker 16 No, it sounds like Jess is saying that 99 is the number.

Speaker 14 I need your support.

Speaker 4 Please.

Speaker 18 I don't want to be the arbiter of how many nuggets is too many nuggets for Chris because I am slightly concerned that the salt could kill him.

Speaker 18 I don't want this to be an onion situation.

Speaker 12 Kill him?

Speaker 16 To be fair to you. Let me look this up.
To be fair to you, Jessica, I don't know if you can see it behind me. We've got our hat rack here.

Speaker 6 When's the last time salt killed someone?

Speaker 16 Everyone hung their hats up. This is a committee.
We're making an unbiased decision about these nuggets and the nugget count. So don't feel like you are the arbiter.
This is a committee.

Speaker 16 We all have our hats off here.

Speaker 16 So having said that, your vote would be for what?

Speaker 18 75.

Speaker 16 75. There you go.
That's listen. Higher than some of the other votes that we're going to do.
I'm going to get the way there, then, Chris.

Speaker 12 Yeah, you're almost done.

Speaker 18 He has to do it by the end of the show.

Speaker 4 I'm looking out.

Speaker 12 By the end of the show.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm looking out how much

Speaker 17 in one day can kill me.

Speaker 6 When's the last time salt hurts somebody?

Speaker 17 Pretty often, I think.

Speaker 12 Yeah. But in one day, though.

Speaker 18 It's generally not good for your bloodstream.

Speaker 12 Doctors tend to ask.

Speaker 16 What do they ask?

Speaker 12 How much salt are you having?

Speaker 16 What do you answer?

Speaker 12 A fair amount. I'm almost like

Speaker 20 slightly above average.

Speaker 4 I think.

Speaker 3 The lethal dose of table salt is roughly 0.5 to 1 gram per kilogram of body weight.

Speaker 16 Oh, you got plenty of time.

Speaker 4 So much time. I got no idea what that means.

Speaker 16 Plenty of time.

Speaker 4 It seems like it's high blood pressure.

Speaker 3 I just feel like I'm good.

Speaker 4 What do you know about that high blood pressure?

Speaker 5 That's my gimmick.

Speaker 4 That high blood pressure. I'm sorry.

Speaker 16 Jessica, who should feel most slighted by version 1.0 of the college football playoff rankings?

Speaker 18 Oh, man, that's a good question.

Speaker 18 I, to be honest, was kind of afraid I was going to get on the Zoom today and everyone was going going to yell at me. So

Speaker 18 I guess I assumed Miami fans would feel that way to answer your question.

Speaker 4 Why is that?

Speaker 16 Why would you say that?

Speaker 18 Because they're all the way down at 18. I think that SMU loss was not the kind of loss they could afford to have.

Speaker 18 I think had they waited to lose to Pitt at the end of the season, it might have been a different story.

Speaker 3 Well, and don't forget, Geno thinks the refs stole that game.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 12 You know what?

Speaker 18 Let me just say this. I saw a lot of the complaining about the officiating in the Miami SMU game, and I understand.

Speaker 18 I think the officiating across the board in college football this year has been pretty bad.

Speaker 18 There's been a number of, I mean, Wake Forest got totally screwed in their game against Georgia Tech earlier this season. There's been so many calls this season.
I mean, the Auburn, Georgia game.

Speaker 18 Did you guys talk about the Kirby Smart timeout thing, the clapping? Yeah. That whole thing? I mean, that was quite a shirt.

Speaker 4 Auburn, Oklahoma was a shit show.

Speaker 12 I know Davo is accusing refs of betting on games after the PI and Clemson Duke. Officiating is bad everywhere.

Speaker 18 It's bad everywhere. And I don't think that, you know, I think that Miami fans have a point.
I kind of see where the refs were going with the specific roughing the passer call with after the whistle.

Speaker 18 He did hit him really hard.

Speaker 18 But that being said, it is bad everywhere. It does affect everyone.
How your head coach handles it, whether or not he blames the refs in the post-game or

Speaker 18 takes the high road, you know, that matters too, I think, to the teams that they are able to not feel feel like they were cheated by it and can stay focused, et cetera. But

Speaker 18 I do think that there's significant complaints that can be made this season on college football officiators.

Speaker 12 I do disagree that losing the last game this season would have been better for Miami because we have an example of that just last year where they lost.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I know, you're right.

Speaker 4 Last game of the season.

Speaker 12 I'm actually encouraged that they have a month to work because the committee already kind of tipped their hand in that they need to see more consistency. from Miami.

Speaker 12 Every other example in the top 25 when there was a head-to-head matchup where teams had the same ranking, all the teams that won the game

Speaker 12 were ranked higher than the loser, except for one instance, Miami. But I do not blame them.
Miami has played one good half in the last month. If Miami goes 4-0, they will have a solid argument.

Speaker 12 College football is nutty in November. We'll see then.
But right now, Miami is zero to complain about. They got to handle their business.

Speaker 12 There's not going to be anything more difficult than winning four games.

Speaker 21 And if I could just jump in real quick here too, Jess. All right, so let's say Miami finishes 4-0 and they look good in the process.

Speaker 21 You want Miami to then be included in the College Football Playup, but then you also have to give in to the idea that the only way they're going to get into the College Football Playoff then would be if three

Speaker 21 ACC teams wind up making the college football playoff, because then we're talking about the loser of the title game.

Speaker 21 And based on the current landscape, how could anyone make the case that three ACC teams are going to get in?

Speaker 18 Well, okay, let's say Georgia Tech goes undefeated the rest of the season.

Speaker 18 That means they beat Georgia and then they lose the ACC title game to, I guess, who would they be playing against in that scenario? I don't know.

Speaker 4 Maybe for Georgia.

Speaker 12 Louisville is probably a tricky one for Miami because if you have three teams with the same record,

Speaker 12 if Notre Dame, Louisville, Miami have the same record, then Louisville has the win over Miami, who has a win over Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 Transit theory. That could be tricky.

Speaker 18 But then do they have a loss to Georgia Tech in the title game or do they have a win over Georgia Tech in the title game? Like, I think...

Speaker 18 To Mike's point, last year when the rankings came out, we were all screaming about Alabama and South Carolina and all these ICC teams.

Speaker 18 And then it turned out Alabama lost to Oklahoma in a historic and embarrassing fashion at the end of the season, which no one saw coming. So it is the beginning of November.

Speaker 18 I think I was being a little sarcastic about the loss at the end of the season, but I think that my bigger point is losing the weekend before the first ranking comes out is...

Speaker 18 definitely like one of the worst times to lose, I think.

Speaker 18 Especially to a conference opponent that has three losses already, including two Big 12 teams that are not even in the Big 12 race right now, TCU and Baylor.

Speaker 18 So I think, yeah, it was a bad timing for a Miami loss. But also to Mike's point, they have not been playing well lately, and they need to win out and get very, very lucky, just like...

Speaker 18 you know, a lot of the other teams in that teens range.

Speaker 12 I've got loads of questions for you. A month ago, everyone said Texas was done in the CFP and they win against a Herchaw Matir,

Speaker 12 edge out Kentucky, need overtime to beat Mississippi State, almost collapse.

Speaker 21 Mississippi State sneaky decent.

Speaker 2 No, I know.

Speaker 4 And Georgia's going to find out.

Speaker 12 Stark Vegas.

Speaker 12 But Texas is back in there. I think the most interesting thing for me is the lack of discussion when it comes to the Big Ten and how bad the bottom third of that conference is.

Speaker 12 When you look at these spreads, a lot of good teams are getting fat off the bottom of this. conference.

Speaker 12 And you have a team like Oregon, who's only favored by six and a half in a very tricky spot against Iowa. You have them in the top 10.

Speaker 12 They lost their only ranked game, their only game against a now-ranked opponent by double digits at home. Their best win is against Northwestern.
I don't really understand this one.

Speaker 12 This feels like a reputation Big Ten propaganda machine.

Speaker 18 And I wonder how much the Penn State win in overtime on the road is still counting towards Oregon's resume, even though Penn State.

Speaker 18 has now been a much worse team since then, although they also lost their starting quarterback who threw the game losing losing interception in that game, Mike.

Speaker 18 Your point about Oregon, though, is well taken. So this season they have beaten Oklahoma State, terrible team.
Oregon State, terrible team. Rutgers, Wisconsin.

Speaker 18 It's just, they haven't had to play very many tough teams.

Speaker 18 But this is where I also think that in a lot of ways, the end of the season, these things kind of will take care of themselves, and especially with Texas, too. Texas still has to play Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 18 Texas A ⁇ M is the number three team in the country. That's going to be obviously very important game.
They also still have to play Georgia. They still have to play Arkansas.

Speaker 18 Arkansas, with their interim Bobby Petrino, head coach, has still given teams a really tough time in the SEC.

Speaker 18 Oregon still has to play USC, who is still ranked. They still have to play Iowa, like you said.
They play Washington, who is ranked.

Speaker 18 There's still, like, a lot of these teams have the hardest part of their schedule still coming up.

Speaker 18 So I think, you know, the first week of the rankings, you consider where the committee is putting the teams now, and it's informative of where things will head.

Speaker 18 But there still could be massive shake-ups in all of this as these teams still have to play really hard conference teams down the stretch.

Speaker 18 The other thing is that I think the mega conferences are stupid. I think that, like, this was, it was a mistake to have divisionless 17-team conferences.
And we are seeing

Speaker 18 just the evidence of that second year in a row. Why do you say that? So stupid.

Speaker 8 Why do you say that?

Speaker 18 Because there's, if you want to compare like Big Ten teams and common opponents just within the conference,

Speaker 18 a lot of these teams just don't have to play that difficult of a, like Mike said, like there's a lot of this Oregon schedule specifically, there's a lot of bad teams in the bottom half of this conference.

Speaker 18 And you get lucky this year that you don't have to play Ohio State. Ohio State is another team.
Mike, let's say that they went out, beat Michigan, which is a big if given their history.

Speaker 18 What is their best win? I guess it's Washington on the road.

Speaker 12 I guess it all depends on what happens with Texas. Right now,

Speaker 12 that was such a marquee game. I don't think people can disassociate that that was one versus two at the time.
It's weird because those are two big propaganda machines going there.

Speaker 12 But to answer Zaz's question, too, and supplement your point, last year, Indiana didn't really play anybody, found a way in the CFP just because the conference are in.

Speaker 12 Oregon's in that position right now. We have two straight years in the ACC where Miami is a well-li and they don't have the opportunity to play Georgia Tech.

Speaker 12 They don't have the opportunity to play Virginia.

Speaker 12 They did have the opportunity against Louisville this year. Last year, all the teams in that mix sit and play one another.

Speaker 12 I do think it gets mitigated some next year with a lot of these conferences moving to a nine-game schedule, though, right, Jez?

Speaker 18 I think it actually makes it a little bit harder if the...

Speaker 18 conferences are not willing to play hard out-of-conference teams. Like if you look at a team like Oregon specifically, I mean their out-of-conference this year was pretty easy.
Oregon State.

Speaker 12 Why play anybody out of conference?

Speaker 12 Miami played everybody out of conference and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 18 I agree. I understand the argument against it, but I think the argument for it is that if you do lose a couple games,

Speaker 18 having one of those wins is going to get you into the playoff. But I think that it makes it harder for the committee and for fans if there's no common power for opponents between any of these teams.

Speaker 18 But I understand your point if like you think head-to-head doesn't matter. I would say head-to-head still matters, but Miami just couldn't afford to lose to a three-loss SMU team.

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Speaker 20 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 8 I mean, they used to call me Chris Karaoke.

Speaker 6 Stugats.

Speaker 6 Karaoke.

Speaker 5 That back row is bringing it today.

Speaker 13 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 17 Chris, you okay?

Speaker 20 That was the roughest bite yet.

Speaker 3 You going two nuggets at a time?

Speaker 16 Yeah. We have an update, by the way.
A text message allegedly from Chris Cody sent that... Kind of outlines some of the fraudulence.
There you go. Cut those big fried ones in half.

Speaker 4 Hold on. That's a damn.
Who sent that? Who sent that? Chris Cody said. I don't think that.
To whom? To 20?

Speaker 16 I'm not going to reveal my source. He says we'd never have 200.

Speaker 21 Yo, why don't you check some of your unread messages?

Speaker 4 Check those

Speaker 16 big fried ones in half.

Speaker 16 You basically,

Speaker 16 you not only announced it on air, but you also announced the strategy behind it.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's it.

Speaker 18 Actually, this brings up a question. What's the proper size of a nugget to make it a nugget and not a 10D? Thank you, Jay.
Like, is it two inches? Is it three inches? What are we?

Speaker 18 I think once you are we standardizing the size.

Speaker 16 Once you start getting elongated,

Speaker 16 then it becomes a tendy. If it's mostly circular slash oval in shape, that's a nugget.
If it's mostly breading and air, then that's popcorn chicken.

Speaker 18 I think it has to be... Yeah, I think it has to have equal length and width to be a nugget or at least slightly irregular.

Speaker 18 It can't have a much longer length than width.

Speaker 4 Wait a minute. Did you say elongated?

Speaker 16 Yeah, it can't be elongated. The more elongated.

Speaker 5 It can't be a grower.

Speaker 8 That has to be somebody who's in a group text with Mike Ryan.

Speaker 20 You don't have that kind of.

Speaker 18 That could be anyone. He's in so many group texts, as we all know.

Speaker 16 He just got re-added into the chat.

Speaker 16 We took fireworks today.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I needed a guest pass, a one-day guest pass to the shit chat.

Speaker 4 I got to see how this all comes out.

Speaker 5 It's the Admiral's Club.

Speaker 4 Am I rollover to tomorrow.

Speaker 3 Jessica. I'm going to for like a week.

Speaker 18 I was going to tell you,

Speaker 18 actually, I was going to ask you if you liked my shirt in honor of the end of Eric Adams' mayorship of New York City, his lasting legacy.

Speaker 18 The rats don't run the city. We do.
The rats are, sadly, quietly resigned. I saw.
The rats are. Which is unfortunate, but they don't know if they will be making a comeback now that they're all

Speaker 4 Miami.

Speaker 12 They're all moving to Miami with the rest of them that are upset without rats.

Speaker 12 Yeah, we were going to be a lot of rats too. I don't like that.

Speaker 16 Jessica, what was the mood in New York City last night?

Speaker 18 The vibe was definitely celebratory. I stayed up late to watch the

Speaker 18 Zoron Mamdani speech, which was the latest that I've stayed up in a really long time. The time changed.
The older I get, the more it kicks my ass, guys.

Speaker 18 I went to bed at 8.30 the other night.

Speaker 18 It helps that I can't watch Monday night football. But

Speaker 18 it was definitely celebratory. I don't live in the quote-unquote communist corner, commie corner, as they're calling it.
But even where I live, it was a stronghold for Mom Donnie.

Speaker 18 So very excited people out and about.

Speaker 16 One of the perhaps most childish, petty, dumbest things I've seen on the internet today was the legit, literal.

Speaker 16 White House Twitter account putting out a Photoshop of the Knicks logo. Instead of it saying New York Knicks, it says Trump is still your president.
If that ain't loser mentality,

Speaker 12 the Dems reposted with comment with the two Knicks fans with the all on their poros.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I mean, the Dems are shit posting again, guys. Are we back? I mean, Woke is back.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you guys know this.

Speaker 8 Woke is back.

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Speaker 1 Enjoy it for now.

Speaker 4 Rude Awakening coming next year.

Speaker 16 Jessica, you're missing it. He's going to be speaking across the street from us here.

Speaker 18 Who? Oh.

Speaker 4 You know who?

Speaker 4 Okay. I thought it was my Bondoni for a second.
Donnie, that would be awesome.

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Speaker 21 Oh, look at how they've closed off the road.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I don't know how anyone's getting home today.

Speaker 17 All those cars are stuck there for nine hours.

Speaker 8 Public transportation is how we're getting home.

Speaker 12 All this for Rafael Nadal.

Speaker 18 There was a very interesting thing that was happening in this mayoral election where

Speaker 18 Andrew Cuomo is obviously such a detestable human being, and many New Yorkers hate him, Republican and Democrat, alike, because of his horrible governorship.

Speaker 16 Because he was molesting, right?

Speaker 18 He was a sexual harassment.

Speaker 12 I thought he was just Italian.

Speaker 18 Well, that's what he

Speaker 18 almost wore my Italians shirt, but I didn't want that to come across as support.

Speaker 18 Anyways, I'm Italian. I can make Italian jokes.
So

Speaker 18 the third candidate in the race, Curtis Liwa, who if this were a Miami race, I know the show would have had a lot of fun with, but

Speaker 16 we kind of let that guy slide.

Speaker 18 People were not standing him, I would say, but they were starting to

Speaker 18 just

Speaker 18 enjoy him being around. His debate answers were very funny.
And that's for a politician whose

Speaker 18 policies are fairly anti-democratic, at least Democratic Party Democratic, at least.

Speaker 18 It was a very unique and interesting thing that was happening. I mean, I think it was a very popular Halloween costume this year as well because of his signature red beret.

Speaker 16 I'm telling you, like in another time, like

Speaker 16 in the era of the rent is to a damn high guy,

Speaker 16 Curtis Sleevo was around. Oh my God, we would have had SNL things about him.
It would have been the joke

Speaker 16 of the summer, basically of the year. It's just now things seem to be like everything that we joke about ends up being in charge of it.

Speaker 18 Yeah, right. It's like, oh, that's so funny.
What if we accidentally elected him as president?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I wish I could see.

Speaker 18 Funny, weird guy from New York.

Speaker 16 Chris Cody is in the kitchen right now.

Speaker 1 He's kneeling over by the garbage can.

Speaker 20 I don't think this is bit either.

Speaker 16 I don't think so either.

Speaker 3 He's actually struggling.

Speaker 18 Why doesn't he pace himself a little bit more?

Speaker 18 He can wait like at least an hour until he has to finish it.

Speaker 16 He's got

Speaker 4 39 more.

Speaker 18 Close to the end of the show.

Speaker 16 He got 39 more and he's got probably about an hour to go and show.

Speaker 2 Just adjusted his belt. Yep.

Speaker 4 Oh, the belt's gone.

Speaker 18 What dog is that? Oh, the belt's gone.

Speaker 8 Oh, that's Percy.

Speaker 19 That's Ethan's dog.

Speaker 18 Is his ACL better? Yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah. No, he's following people around and Ethan's stepping in shit, walking in.

Speaker 18 You know, you're thrilled to meet Ethan.

Speaker 16 Oh, my God. I miss Willow.
This is how bad it is.

Speaker 18 I'll let her know. She voted for Cuomo, unfortunately.

Speaker 12 Jess, I want to play some video here for you. Do you think this qualifies as a Dabo crash out? And this is not going the right way.

Speaker 12 I'm curious your thoughts on how this Dabo thing ends at the end of the season. Here we go.

Speaker 15 I'm not criticizing. I'm just, I can't, you know, I can't tell you.
I ain't going to tell you the game. I'm not going to say the game, but we're only allowed to turn in.

Speaker 15 You know, there's a system of accountability, but y'all don't know anything about it. It's behind a curtain.

Speaker 15 How dare we have accountability? In the meantime, we got gambling issues going on, people being suspended, all that kind of stuff, right?

Speaker 4 Yep. I mean, refs are people, too.

Speaker 15 It ain't just coaches and players, and if they're a part of the game, then by God, they ought to be a part of the game.

Speaker 15 And they ought to be a part of the accountability, and they ought to be a part of the consequences, not just behind some shadowy curtain. Like, no, they ought to have to answer for it.

Speaker 15 And listen, there's judgment calls and all that. And I mean, we can, we just have to disagree to disagree.

Speaker 4 But there's also

Speaker 15 absolute flat-out misses. Yeah, but you ain't no public.
There's no public accountability.

Speaker 15 Ain't none of that. So that's the system.
The system needs to change. It needs to be changed.
There needs to be challenge opportunity, and we need full-time officials.

Speaker 15 If you're going to have this type of stakes, you need to be full-time officials.

Speaker 15 And everybody should have consequences.

Speaker 16 Shout out to who I think is Greg Doyle in the background typing, because I know that typing anyway.

Speaker 4 Jesus.

Speaker 12 Swimson's a weird landing spot for him. Jess, your thoughts? For context, there was a very controversial defensive pass interference in which the replay appeared like it actually might have been OPI.

Speaker 12 In fact, everyone in attendance thought that Duke ends up winning the game.

Speaker 18 By one point. Yeah.

Speaker 18 I think he's honestly maybe doing a little bit of fan service there. Like I think his fans are starting to check out on this.

Speaker 18 This is the worst Clemson team in, I don't know, 20 years, at least since he took over at Clemson. I was trying to quickly look up their FEI ratings.

Speaker 21 Fifth in the preseason?

Speaker 4 I mean, it sounds right.

Speaker 18 Yeah, it's really bad. And it's neither side of the ball right now.
It feels like there's best talent evaluations. It feels like the coordinator hires are definitely not working out.

Speaker 18 They were supposed to have this, like, you know, Tom Allen come in as the defensive coordinator this year.

Speaker 18 It's just been a mess there and I feel like he's trying to speak to the fans and try to get them behind him and make them feel like he still cares, make them at least let them know he still cares and is still fighting for this team.

Speaker 18 But I also think he has some good points. I mean if you're going to have legalized sports betting,

Speaker 18 this level of officiating to me Sometimes when game outcomes are coming down to some really bad calls.

Speaker 18 And like the ACC is even one of those leagues that's getting a lot of credit for the the re review uh room mike which i know you've you've seen this season

Speaker 12 um so i think they're trying to be more transparent to at least give them a little bit of credit here let us show you how bad we are um yeah i guess i just there have been i understand his point i think he's saying what a lot of fans are thinking i no doubt i mean i i looked at my friend after it was like seven horrendous calls in dallas again miami put themselves in that position where it was a one-score game and the refs had that much influence.

Speaker 12 Although, again, it was seven. It might have been a one-score game because of all the missed calls.
Where I'm like, if they told me, I'm going to get him a Pepsid.

Speaker 18 I mean, come on.

Speaker 12 If they told me this game was rigged five years from now, I'd totally believe it.

Speaker 4 Like, what else does it look like?

Speaker 12 Like, that's what it looks like.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 It's just, but it's also like not a college football specific issue, which I think comes down, like, what he's saying about like full-time officials, I think is what a lot of people are thinking, right?

Speaker 18 Like, we make this a full-time job so that it's something that the people can help the refs out, like, it's something they can focus on.

Speaker 18 I mean, I know you've done a hundred podcasts about basketball officiating, too, so you can speak to it. It's obviously a humongous issue in the WNBA.

Speaker 18 Women's college basketball, I'm sure men's college basketball, which I don't watch quite as much of, has a fair share of controversy as well.

Speaker 18 So, I don't know what the right answer is, but I think he's definitely speaking to his fans and trying to

Speaker 18 show that he still cares about this team that is waffling right now and down the stretch.

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Speaker 20 Don Lebatard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the lightning.

Speaker 8 This is a different team.

Speaker 9 You're a Panther group chat.

Speaker 2 No, no, I think

Speaker 8 no, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever.
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Speaker 16 Okay, I'm sorry, Jessica. I would love that.

Speaker 15 That's okay.

Speaker 12 He's in such rough shape.

Speaker 18 He looks terrible.

Speaker 16 On the god, they just threw Peptobismol at him.

Speaker 18 I think if Chris expired right now, Percy would eat him.

Speaker 4 I gotta tell you.

Speaker 18 He would look in like a little salami roll.

Speaker 12 This may not be the 60 count. It might be the 20 milligrams.

Speaker 4 Oh, for sure. Absolutely.
For sure. Hang on a second.

Speaker 18 De-gummied up.

Speaker 1 Performance enhancing drugs.

Speaker 16 PDs.

Speaker 4 Oh, God. He must feel awful.
Awful.

Speaker 18 Just take a nap, Chris.

Speaker 16 I don't know if he's going to be able to take a nap. He might win.

Speaker 7 He wants to originally talk about 60.

Speaker 2 If you lay him on his side, he will.

Speaker 3 60 was the mode on the list that we had before.

Speaker 8 We said that that would have passed by the 59.

Speaker 3 That was originally a passing grade of 30. He is for none.

Speaker 4 We're close.

Speaker 1 Look, there's still what?

Speaker 16 He's got an hour.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he's got an hour.

Speaker 16 I think he can get to the 99. Oh, man.

Speaker 5 I'm at a point an hour, Chris.

Speaker 16 You got this, man.

Speaker 16 It looks like a bad thing.

Speaker 21 I think the smell of nuggets will make him.

Speaker 16 He just threw up double.

Speaker 3 Mike is bringing the nuggets out to him now, and I kind of think that might be the thing that's in the middle of the day.

Speaker 6 Back to work, player.

Speaker 4 Yeah, back to work. Exactly right.

Speaker 16 Throws the Pepto Bill.

Speaker 4 Oh, there's one.

Speaker 16 He's going right to the face.

Speaker 4 He just...

Speaker 3 That's another one. It's 61 now.

Speaker 4 That's like a feedback.

Speaker 4 He stuck

Speaker 22 his face in the plate.

Speaker 1 Just to paint a visual for the audio audience, Chris is currently laying down on his side on the couch.

Speaker 3 We have handed him a plate of nuggets, which he is slowly eating. It's rested next to his face as if almost like a telephone.

Speaker 4 And now he's just slowly eating.

Speaker 2 He's now at 62 nuggets.

Speaker 4 I'm concerned. This is disgusting.
His face is getting rounder.

Speaker 16 He looks like a nugget with sunglasses on.

Speaker 18 He looks like he's doing the Chris Reply Guy

Speaker 18 meme again with the sunglasses and the hat. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

Speaker 16 Oh my gosh. Good stuff.
It's called The Echoes, her podcast. She does it with Mike Goalie Jr.

Speaker 18 I didn't even send you guys my topics today. I was going to talk about Red Panda being back.
Okay. Oh, don't worry.

Speaker 21 We're going to get huge. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Well, you can get to it now.

Speaker 16 Yeah, let's do it now. Let's, you know what? Yeah, let's do it now.
What do you got on Red Panda coming back? Who, by the way, I'm one of the people who said, you had a great career.

Speaker 16 You're doing yourself a disservice. Just stay retired.

Speaker 17 You come back, we're in the 4-5.

Speaker 16 Oh, my God.

Speaker 18 But, like, you can't go out like that. And she's had a prolific career and I think wants to...

Speaker 18 This is her livelihood, right?

Speaker 4 She wanted to get out. You can't go out.

Speaker 18 But she did, and she came back.

Speaker 18 I think it's a great story she performed last night at the bows game um for those the bulls 76ers yeah um billy donovan and them boys what do you know about them amin oh man i love i love everything they're doing i love the way they play that's my gimmick oh

Speaker 18 you're absolutely right

Speaker 16 speaking of gimmicks

Speaker 16 i've never heard this music before that's That's right.

Speaker 21 We got imaging now, Amin. You ready for this? You ready for another edition of...
You know about that?

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 16 yeah. No, we got imaging.
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 21 All right, here we go. Amin,

Speaker 21 the Philadelphia 76ers last night, they lost at the Bulls. Joel Embiid was one for 10, which is two points in the second half.
You know about that?

Speaker 16 I do know about that. Not a great showing by Joel Embiid.
He's still on the minutes restriction. He's trying.

Speaker 16 Last week we talked about how the Sixers for the first time look like they have a positivity beyond the Joel and Beat era.

Speaker 16 The problem is we are still in the Joel and Beat era, and he doesn't look good. He doesn't look healthy, but I don't know what good it is to keep trotting him out there for 20 minutes at a time.

Speaker 16 All right.

Speaker 21 You know about those Sixers. All right.

Speaker 21 I mean,

Speaker 21 the New Orleans Pelicans, they finally won their first game last night.

Speaker 16 God bless the Hornets.

Speaker 21 They beat the Hornets. No Zion.

Speaker 21 No Lamello either. So we're in mid-season form both these teams.

Speaker 5 You know about that?

Speaker 16 I know about that. Yesterday, Jessica, we were trying to figure out who Greg Cody is.
There were some disrespectful people who called him the Donnis Haslam of this show.

Speaker 16 Oh, wow. I said he's the Zion Williamson because when he plays and he's healthy, he's amazing.
The problem is, he's rarely healthy as he's under 30.

Speaker 18 We talk about his shoes way too much.

Speaker 16 That too, yes. So

Speaker 16 Zion being out again, hamstring issue. He's doing the Greg Cody, man.

Speaker 16 And at some point, you just kind of have to accept that this is kind of the submission you're going to get from him from night in to night out. Again, shout out to Greg Cody.

Speaker 16 He went under the knife today. We hope he's okay.

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 21 All right, Amin, you know about those Pelicans clearly. Amin,

Speaker 21 the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Speaker 16 We didn't even talk about Derek Queen, by the way, yesterday.

Speaker 4 Big fourth quarter.

Speaker 16 Big fourth quarter.

Speaker 21 Oh, Joe Dumar's won that trade. The Oklahoma City Thunder, they moved to 8-0

Speaker 21 for the first time in franchise history. They won at the Clippers last night.

Speaker 16 Amin, you know about them, Thunder? I know all about them, Thunder. They're amazing.
They're incredible. They're deep.
The MVP is still playing like an MVP.

Speaker 5 We got new guys.

Speaker 21 Jalen Williams hasn't even played yet.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Jalen Williams has not played. He's recovering from that wrist injury.
We got AJ Mitchell, who has stolen the hearts and minds of a lot of basketball heads like Tony.

Speaker 2 Isaiah Joe, too, by the way.

Speaker 16 Isaiah Joe. Shooter.
Gosh, he's so shooter.

Speaker 16 I love that his job is just everyone else on that roster, the fans shooter. Him, I just shoot.
That's all I do. Love the Thunder.

Speaker 21 All right, you know about them, Thunder.

Speaker 2 Amin,

Speaker 21 the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 16 Oh, man.

Speaker 21 Lots of complaining the other night from Jalen Brown. What a shocker that if Jalen Brown's your best player, your team may not be that good.
The Celtics dropped a three and five.

Speaker 21 They host the Wizards tonight. You know about them Celtics?

Speaker 16 I know about them Celtics. Three and five doesn't begin to describe how bad it is.
How bad is it? They lost to the Utah Jazz at home and they blew a big lead.

Speaker 16 And I know Utah's playing better this year, but not that much better. For Boston, is having these problems.
Meanwhile, Chris Cody is knocked out on the ground. The dog is staring at him.

Speaker 16 Remember, Chris Cody, Ethan walked his shit shoes all over that ground yesterday.

Speaker 18 Why are they shit shoes?

Speaker 16 Because he stepped in shit when he was walking his dog. Shoes? And then he, yes, and then he walked upstairs and then realized it.
and then washed the shoes in the bathroom after the fact. What?

Speaker 4 But he had already walked all over our floors.

Speaker 18 Man, that's disgusting. And don't bring your dog to work.
That's disrespectful.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Thank you.

Speaker 18 Can I just say really quick how different this segment's gone than how I expected it to go?

Speaker 6 What do you expect?

Speaker 4 I thought you were all going to yell at me.

Speaker 4 I thought you were all going to be really mad. I mean, it's only the first week, Mike, right, of the College of Wall Play.

Speaker 6 This is week one.

Speaker 4 This is a sports media show. A lot of football.
People are irrational.

Speaker 12 I'll yell at you a month from now.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 A lot of football to be played.

Speaker 18 And you know what? I will also say, Notre Dame, who everyone's going to be mad at because they're number 10, they still have to win out and they still have to play Pitt.

Speaker 18 And Pitt is a good football team.

Speaker 4 Let's remember that the final week of the season, please.

Speaker 12 Let's remember that we all called Pitt a good football team the final week of the season.

Speaker 18 Well, if Notre Dame beats them by too many points, then they won't be a good football team.

Speaker 4 No, they're not good. And if Miami points out, and also, if Miami beats them, they're also not good.
Right.

Speaker 18 Well, yeah, and they have four losses and they lost to West Virginia, Mike.

Speaker 4 I mean, come on.

Speaker 12 They have to somehow beat Pitt, but have Pitt maintain their record.

Speaker 4 And then they're in. Yes.

Speaker 16 I think the dog is starting to eat Chris Cody. I'm seeing it chew.
I think Chris is just kind of laying there.

Speaker 21 All right, I mean,

Speaker 21 last night, the Orlando Magic dropped a three and five after losing to the Hawks. Desmond Bain, who they gave up four first-round picks for and a pick swap,

Speaker 21 is averaging career lows across the board. He was ejected from the game last night.
You know about the Orlando Magic?

Speaker 4 I know about the rest of the rewards.

Speaker 18 Because a woman ref ejected him.

Speaker 4 Shame on him for ejecting Bain.

Speaker 18 I actually don't know if a woman ref that game.

Speaker 12 I just assumed it was.

Speaker 4 Safe assumption. It's part of the problem.

Speaker 16 They lost to the Trey Youngless Atlanta Hawks, by the way. We got to point that out.
Desmond Bain, career lows, but I think the biggest one is the three-point shooting.

Speaker 16 He's a career 40-plus percent three-point shooter. He's been at 38 or higher pretty much every year of his career.
This year he's shooting 28.6%, folks.

Speaker 16 They brought him in because they have shooting problems. If the shooter can't shoot, this is the second year in a row.
They went out and got a shooter, and that guy forgot to shoot at some point.

Speaker 16 When is it Orlando's fault? Maybe they're doing something wrong.

Speaker 18 I say that to men all the time. Shoot or shoot.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 21 Lamin, you know about Desmond Bain. Finally got one more for your ass here.
As Jessica mentioned a few moments ago, Red Panda made her debut. She broke her wrist.
She fell last year.

Speaker 21 She made her return in Chicago at halftime. You know about that, Red Panda?

Speaker 16 I know about that Red Panda. I worry about that Red Panda.
She's had such a great, illustrious Hall of Fame career. She's defied the odds and...
and defied death and all these things.

Speaker 16 And then last year, she actually came back from retirement last year, and that's when she got hurt. And I said, you you know what, man, you were on top, well now you're just kind of extending it.

Speaker 16 Feels very Michael Jordan washing.

Speaker 4 She's a little bit of a compiler?

Speaker 16 At a compiler, it's just like, you gotta learn when to say enough's enough.

Speaker 18 Yeah, but like if Michael Jordan scored 50 points last night, you wouldn't be like, why did he come back? No, no.

Speaker 4 She still did a routine.

Speaker 16 No,

Speaker 16 sure. Yes, she was awesome last night.
But we're not talking about how she did last night. We're talking about, I'm worried about her.
I want her legacy to remain stellar. I don't want...

Speaker 16 What if she gets hurt again? Then what we're going to say.

Speaker 18 I don't think there's anything she could do to ruin her legacy at this point.

Speaker 16 I think there's a couple of things.

Speaker 4 Well, okay. I guess

Speaker 16 technically, yes, in the context of what she does for a living. Yes, I don't think she could ruin her legacy.
But I do think, like, I don't want her career to end. on a sour note, right? Because

Speaker 16 she got, God forbid, an injury worse than what the last one was.

Speaker 21 Amin,

Speaker 21 you clearly know about that rep.

Speaker 16 Oh, man, thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 16 Excellent work. Thank you to Jessica Smithana again.
The Echoes is the name of podcasts. You get it wherever you go.
Hold on a minute. What?

Speaker 7 Chris went back there and gave 20 bucks to the studio team, and now the graphic says 99 nuggets.

Speaker 4 What the hell is going on here? This is ridiculous.

Speaker 21 I told you.

Speaker 7 This is ACC ref level of corruption.

Speaker 16 This place is riddled with corruption up and down. It's not just the Fuentes family.
All five families in here.

Speaker 4 They're all corrupt.

Speaker 16 Sick of it.

Speaker 12 There's a hundred bucks there. Louis had a hundo.

Speaker 16 A hundo? Chris. Damn, Chris, you could have just came to me, man.
I was at $20.

Speaker 4 This would have been easy. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Is Dan here?

Speaker 18 Where'd that hundo come from?

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