Hour 1: Elle Picks Her Favorite Child (feat. Elle Duncan)

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Speaker 2 News music. She's the longtime Sports Center host.
She's the host of ESPN's Vibe Check. It's every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 5 p.m.
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Speaker 2 Why do you hate Riley Moss so much? Why are you going angrily and publicly after poor Riley Moss?

Speaker 2 As your Broncos have a great defense and we're just winning one of the biggest games that you've seen them win in the last 10 years.

Speaker 11 Oh, hey, what's up, Greg?

Speaker 11 You know what? I was going to say that, but it doesn't have the same ring to it when Greg's actually sitting there. Like, I could just be saying hi to Greg.

Speaker 11 Hi, Chris.

Speaker 5 Hi.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 11 so many thoughts you guys always come in with just so many thoughts so many thoughts about ryan braun like first of all i hate when people say like i'd bet my life that's not a real bet that you can do on so those are hollow words secondly why would you hold that press conference at a ballpark anyway back to riley moss dan riley moss was really really good in that bronco secondary last year like like a captain good um he gets hurt he's not the same when he comes back that's to be expected and this year he is just

Speaker 11 it's a tough assignment when you have to line up across from Patrick Sertan. But come on, you guys.

Speaker 11 Whenever there is a flag on Denver's defense, and there's a lot of flags on Denver's defense, there is a 100% chance it's on Riley Moss.

Speaker 11 I don't understand. Like at this point, like give up the touchdown.
Good God. It would be a different result than consistently getting called for DPI.
That's the game plan now.

Speaker 11 Oh, we're in a third and long situation. Throw out Riley Moss.
He's sure to give it to us. It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 2 I'm used to seeing you this way about the Georgia Bulldogs.

Speaker 2 I'm not used to seeing you this way about the Denver Broncos. So the last time a Broncos game felt like this to you was at the Super Bowl against Cam Newton?

Speaker 11 Ooh, no, I actually felt great about that one because we were beating their ass. To me,

Speaker 11 it's the fact, Dan, that like we win the Super Bowl the same year I start working at ESPN. And I'm thinking in my mind, like, this is perfect.
I get to work at ESPN. My team is the champs.

Speaker 11 Like, I get to spread this Broncos propaganda to a national audience. And then they fell off and they haven't been relevant.
And so they're finally relevant again. They yet again have a good defense.

Speaker 11 And to me, being able to beat the Chiefs is the way that you assure that things have changed, not only in the conference, but in the division specifically. And so there was a lot riding on that game.

Speaker 11 And so I was incredibly frustrated. I've tried to play it cool, but like, there's blood in the water.
Like, we have the best record tied for the best record in the league.

Speaker 11 Like, this is when it counts. And we were beating the Chiefs up and down the whole entire game.
And Ronney Moss tried to give it away.

Speaker 12 Are the Chiefs done?

Speaker 12 Is the dynasty over, Ell?

Speaker 11 Um,

Speaker 11 I mean, here's the thing that I think, you know, when we talk about Tom Brady, and I know it's annoying that we always bring up Tom Brady. We talk about Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 11 The thing that is always so impressive about Tom Brady is not how many championships he won, but the consistency through 20 years.

Speaker 11 And so, do I think this iteration of the dynasty for the Chiefs is probably over? Probably.

Speaker 11 Do I think that this is the last time that we're going to see Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs go on a run where they win two or three championships in a row? No. It might take a bit of a pause.

Speaker 11 They're not very good. They've got a lot of issues.
And whereas before they could rely on Mahomes' magic, they can't. But to like put dirt on this man's grave, he's been in six straight Super Bowls.

Speaker 11 Like, y'all stop.

Speaker 2 You're still scared of him, right? I think they'd still be favored. I think if they had to go to Denver to play, they'd still be favored the next time they play them as well.

Speaker 11 They would absolutely be favored. The thing that's gone for the Chiefs is the mystique.

Speaker 11 Like the mystique, this idea that, like, you know, oh, here they come and they're the Undertaker and they're just going to beat us because the ball always bounces their way, seemingly.

Speaker 11 I think that is over. So I don't think people are as like nervous and tight to play them anymore, but it's still a Chiefs.

Speaker 11 And I would still absolutely fear playing them in any important or relevant game.

Speaker 2 This is a crazy thing to say in 2025, but it is. Vibe Check is still a super rare kind of show.

Speaker 2 It's not something that you see on most television, not that looks that way, sounds that way, and has that kind of chemistry between the participants.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 recently, what would you say has been the biggest reaction that has been created on any recent topic

Speaker 2 amongst yourselves on Vibe Check?

Speaker 11 I would say, like, we, full disclosure, have not, the three of us, meaning me, Andrea Carter, and Shanea Gumake, kind of got Vibe Check off the starting blocks.

Speaker 11 We haven't really had an opportunity to do it together very often, but I would say in general, Vibe Check is a space where we talk about all sports, but it's really the home for women's basketball.

Speaker 11 So I think most of the conversation surrounding like Vibe Check and the women's sports space right now is college basketball that's just started.

Speaker 11 And is UConn A not only going to run it back, but are they going to go undefeated? Because they look

Speaker 11 real, real nasty right now.

Speaker 11 So to me, that's probably the biggest talker is is just shifting gears from WNBA into college women's space.

Speaker 11 Like what that looks like, what the numbers look like, how much more growth we're going to have, and just a parody.

Speaker 2 Elle, how big of a threat is Project B to both the WNBA and college basketball?

Speaker 11 Hi, Amin. Oh, man.
What's up, homie? What's up?

Speaker 5 Oh, hey, what's up, Amin? Hey, Amin. Hi, Amin.

Speaker 11 Amin famously wearing the white ball cap right now.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I don't, threat, I don't think, is, is the right term. I think that it's an accountability check.

Speaker 11 Like it's an opportunity to continue to apply pressure to the WNBA to make sure that these players are getting paid commensurate to opportunity. And so same thing with unrivaled.

Speaker 11 Like this idea that like Stewie and Nafisa don't want things to work out in the W because they have unrivaled and that helps them. Unrivaled is six weeks.
Y'all stop.

Speaker 11 And they pay really good salaries, but it's still not enough to sustain the lifestyle that these players have, right?

Speaker 11 Like making 250 grand, it's still a lot more than they're making now, but it's not enough to like rest on their laurels and say we don't need other opportunities so project b is going to do the same thing that anything else does which is just apply pressure um and give these women another outlet to say like we have more leverage to say no to whatever you're laying out for us in the w because we have more opportunities to play they're paying a ton of money i think they got the saudis behind them um and so i love it for the women involved because they have an opportunity to continue to collect bags continue to spread the sport.

Speaker 11 Like Project B is going to be international.

Speaker 11 And from what I'm understanding, it's going to be a little bit more of like the the Formula One model where they do these major temp pole events in countries across the world for a week or two at a time to really showcase the space internationally.

Speaker 11 It's the same thing that Adam Silver's been trying to do with the NBA. Now they're trying to do it with the W's.

Speaker 8 Elle, why hasn't Kathy Engelbert been replaced yet? When will that happen and will it be important in terms of the future of the WNBA?

Speaker 11 It will be very important. I do believe it's coming.

Speaker 11 I do not believe anything is going to happen until they can get this new CBA ratified because that's ridiculous to have someone in high-level conversations and then to bail right when we're actually reaching like critical time in the space, I think is asinine.

Speaker 11 So I don't anticipate any change happening before then, but I do anticipate a change coming.

Speaker 11 And I talked to an executive in the NBA just about sort of the precarious situation that she's found herself in.

Speaker 11 And, you know, I think the issue that they raised for me is that like Roger Goodell gets called a lot of names. He's maligned like by fans.
He gets booed everywhere he goes.

Speaker 11 And most of that is because everyone believes that he only works for the owners and he's got the owner's interest in mind only, right? So he's in with the owners and he's not in with the players.

Speaker 11 That's the idea, at least, the narrative that swirls. When it comes to Kathy, she doesn't necessarily have great relationships with the teams or the players.

Speaker 11 So if you're not, if you're not like curring favor with either side, I just don't know how you survive it. And I watched her, y'all, get booed mercilessly at the WNBA finals when we were in Phoenix.

Speaker 11 And I think it's, I think it shocked her. I think, I think it was really off-putting to her to see how she has become the villain in this story.

Speaker 11 And I think she's done a really good job raising capital throughout the years where it wasn't as easy to raise capital, where we didn't have numbers and metrics to prove that this was a great business strategy.

Speaker 11 But I also think that like the relationship has clearly deteriorated to a place where I don't think it's ever going to be fixed.

Speaker 11 And if you at least had the owners on your side going, that's our girl, and we're going to make sure she stays, but I don't think she has that either.

Speaker 11 So if you don't have either side, I just don't know how long you're in for this job.

Speaker 2 I did not see the basketball game between Notre Dame and Akron, but I did see that Hannah Hidalgo had 16 steals in the game.

Speaker 2 Is it gas bag male of me to wander over and just say Akron's got a point guard problem

Speaker 2 instead of celebrating that 16 steals is a fairly amazing,

Speaker 2 a fairly amazing thing to do?

Speaker 11 I would maybe say Akron has a basketball problem in general, because that's crazy.

Speaker 11 And like, here's the thing though. Hannah Hidalgo has, since she's come into the, into the college space, has led the league in steals.
Like, that's what she does.

Speaker 11 She's a pickpocketer, but that's absolutely absurd. And at some point, you have to go, like, what are we doing? I love, though, that Hannah, the move from Olivia Miles

Speaker 11 and like having her move on to TCU was really helpful to Hannah because I think there was a lot of like head games of, you know, when Hannah first came into the league, Olivia was hurt.

Speaker 11 So it was was her as the point guard, her as the facilitator, like it was her ship she was running. Then she had to sort of share that responsibility with Olivia.

Speaker 11 And I think both girls were really tepid in terms of like, like, who's the captain here? Like, who's supposed to be leading this team? Who's the one that's sort of dictating pace and all that?

Speaker 11 So this allows Hannah to go back to her natural position and really be free. And we're seeing that manifest.
The issue is, is that Notre Dame has a talent dearth everywhere else. They lost a lot.

Speaker 11 of pieces and they did not replace them.

Speaker 2 Can Iowa State be any kind of reasonable competition to UConn? And if not, who is the most reasonable competition to UConn?

Speaker 11 I love Audi Crooks, but I do not think Iowa State can contend with UConn.

Speaker 11 Maybe a more formidable opponent would be like a South Carolina just because

Speaker 11 they played them before.

Speaker 11 They're deep and because defense is huge for them. But I legit, guys, I don't, I hate that this is one of those seasons where yet again, we're going, I think it's UConn's to lose, but it is.

Speaker 11 I mean, Sarah Strong is going to be national player of the year if AZ Fudd stays healthy.

Speaker 11 Kaylee Heckle coming over from USC, KK Arnold, like they're just too deep, you guys. They're too good.
They're too deep. They have too much conviction.
And they have Gino Oriyama.

Speaker 11 So I would say, like, the usual suspects, maybe an LSU, although they're very point guard heavy and they're not big enough to contend with UConn.

Speaker 11 You know, maybe a South Carolina. Don't sleep on like a Texas, just because, again, like Texas, I always have concerns with their ability to score, but they are nasty.

Speaker 11 They'll have you in a 35 to 38 grudge match in the fourth quarter. So, and UCLA does have the length.
I do have concerns about their coach in these big situations.

Speaker 11 Like, can Corey pull a magic out of her hat?

Speaker 11 But UCLA is definitely big enough to kill her.

Speaker 5 I don't think it's a magic.

Speaker 2 I don't think it can be a magic. I don't think it can be a magic.

Speaker 5 You can't pull out Magic Johnson.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but that's the only case. You can't.

Speaker 11 Can they pull a Magic Johnson out of their hat? That would be a huge plot twist.

Speaker 13 L pick one, Denver Broncos Super Bowl this year or Georgia Bulldogs national championship.

Speaker 11 God.

Speaker 11 This is actually really, really tough. I'll go Broncos.
I'll go Broncos Super Bowl just because,

Speaker 11 like, we, we have a couple of championships from not that long ago. Um, I think it's a lot harder in the NFL to win.

Speaker 11 And so I would go with the Broncos Super Bowl just because I think that defense deserves one. But damn you for making me choose.

Speaker 11 It's like choosing between my children, which we can all do, by the way. Anybody in there that has more than one kid knows you have a favorite.

Speaker 5 Go ahead and do it. And then my dad will go next.
Go ahead and do it.

Speaker 11 It's my favorite is my son.

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Speaker 17 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 1 I feel like we need to normalize saying the scientific terms for organs on the air. Like if someone...
Yes. You know what?

Speaker 1 If someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis.

Speaker 17 Stugats.

Speaker 6 That free kick hit him right in the cockadoodle-doo.

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Speaker 2 Hey, L, you picked the right kid, by the way, because that other kid, Georgia, toothless.

Speaker 20 Toothless.

Speaker 11 Well, but to be true, I mean, and that's honestly why I'm sort of like, like, like this Georgia defense is horrible. The offense is pretty good.

Speaker 11 It would be very surprising for them to win a national championship. And so it would be exciting.

Speaker 11 But I just feel like Georgia is always going to be in the conversation, even with a bummy team like they have now. Well, bummy by Georgia's standards that they have now.

Speaker 15 Fourth in the nation.

Speaker 11 But that's my point, you guys, is that like Georgia's defense is nowhere near where they used to be. We do not have the weapons at skill position players like we've had before.

Speaker 11 Gunner's playing incredibly well. This is not a team on paper that should win a national championship, but they're fourth in the country.
And that's my point is that they're going to retool, reload.

Speaker 11 They're going to get better next year on defense. They've got some really big recruits coming in.
They're always going to be in the conversation, even with a bad team.

Speaker 11 Like for the Broncos, come on, bro. Like we haven't even, we've won one playoff game in 10 years.
Like that's, I'm with it.

Speaker 2 Elle, I was on the show a couple weeks ago and I announced that people who go to UGA are mostly toothless hicks.

Speaker 2 That's the only reason they went to UGA is because that's the only school that would accept them.

Speaker 2 Georgia Tech and UGA have a big game coming up. It's at GT last year.
We almost beat you, but you know, there's some trickery going on, but it's all good.

Speaker 2 This is the year destiny for the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets, or as Dan calls them, the Golden Jackets Yellow Jackets. Elle, would you like to engage me in a playful wager?

Speaker 5 The winner of PD versus UGA.

Speaker 11 By the way, I mean, you saying that Georgia fans are hickless, toothless, and stupid, which is the only reason they could get in there. What does that say about me?

Speaker 11 Because I couldn't even get into Georgia. So I feel incredibly offended and attacked, but that's all right.
I'm just a Georgia fan. I didn't actually go there because I couldn't get in.

Speaker 2 Not just you. It's Ernie Johnson and there's a bunch of other people who fall into that list of just hicks.

Speaker 19 Just hicks. We are.

Speaker 11 We're a little country, and that's all right. What's the wager? I'm in.

Speaker 5 All right. By the way.

Speaker 11 By the way, I'm really happy for Georgia Tech. I am.
I do not need to be.

Speaker 5 I don't need, hold on.

Speaker 2 I don't need you to do that.

Speaker 5 That's a big cis move. That's a pity.
That's a move.

Speaker 2 I don't need a big cis move from L Duncan.

Speaker 5 Like, oh, it's real cute. What you guys are doing?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 11 You guys haven't been relevant since 1991. I think you do need a big sis, little pat on the head.

Speaker 11 Hold on. It's adorable, Amin, what you guys are doing.
It's so cute. It's cute.
It's so sweet. You guys are like ranked.
It's adorves. I love it for you.
And

Speaker 11 for the first time in like 20 years, this game between Georgia and Georgia Tech is for more than just bragging rights. It's like for something for you guys.
And so I think it's super sweet.

Speaker 20 Two weeks from now, the Georgia Bulldogs versus the.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 Golden State.

Speaker 2 Georgia Tech yellow jackets.

Speaker 2 That's how Dan calls us.

Speaker 11 It's actually perfect because what I expect in two weeks is that Georgia will take a golden shower on the Bulldogs.

Speaker 5 Whoa!

Speaker 5 Okay, she always does this.

Speaker 5 She does dangerous things like this.

Speaker 5 She's naughty.

Speaker 2 She's, what is that?

Speaker 5 We're not doing disrespect.

Speaker 2 That is the, you can't do that. That's Disney.
You're Disney. That's not Disney Plus.
That's dangerous, what you just did there. Disney minus.

Speaker 5 Disney minus.

Speaker 11 I stand by everything I just.

Speaker 5 What kind of joke isn't that terrible joke? Disney minus.

Speaker 8 It's not only not Disney Plus, it's the opposite.

Speaker 5 Greg's defense. He was just supposed to make the opposite.
I mean, Greg, I get it.

Speaker 5 Greg explained it. Now I'm going to get it.
That makes it better.

Speaker 2 Yeah, now that I understand what you were doing.

Speaker 5 Thank you very much. What did you want? No, no, no.
I got to lose wager with her.

Speaker 21 No.

Speaker 2 If Georgia Tech wins, I need you to wear a yellow jackets hat on Sports Center. Wow.

Speaker 11 I'll do it.

Speaker 2 So now what?

Speaker 5 Wait, they would just allow that?

Speaker 21 It's like, hey, I'm wearing a Georgia Tech hat on Sports Center today.

Speaker 2 I mean, I would say you could shout me out, but I figured my name is still like unspoken over there. So I just

Speaker 5 have to.

Speaker 11 You're not Valdemort. You're not Valdemort.
I mean, I will absolutely speak your name and say that I lost a bet.

Speaker 11 I don't have concerns about having to do that because when Georgia wins, ooh, what do I want from you?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I want you to wear a Georgia hat and I want you to, whenever you are spoken to, preface any of your comments, regardless of sport or subject, with a go dog sick'em. Cool?

Speaker 2 Okay. And by the way, we need this for social as well.
It can't just be like real quick and then it just disappears forever.

Speaker 4 All right. This is a lame bet.
I'm just going to say it.

Speaker 5 But what did you want?

Speaker 12 Neither of you guys are like upset about having to do it.

Speaker 5 You're like, yeah, I'll put on the hat.

Speaker 2 You think I want to say whatever the hell she just said? It's not even English.

Speaker 11 Go dog sick'em.

Speaker 2 Greg, what do you have for L before we play the game that is being celebrated internationally? It's no longer L yes or L no. We've got an upgrade to it.

Speaker 8 L, America wants to know, the U.S. Mint is discontinuing future production of the penny.

Speaker 5 What do you think of that?

Speaker 11 Well, I did see a story that said that like pennies could be going for a million dollars at auction or something, which feels like an AI-generated story.

Speaker 11 But I didn't do any research just like anybody else on social media. So I'm going to go with it and go, if that's the case, I have a treasure trove of pennies in my kids' piggy bank.

Speaker 11 And I promise you, I'm going to rate it.

Speaker 4 Hold on to those.

Speaker 11 Like,

Speaker 11 let's be real. Even when I was broke and

Speaker 11 I would throw pennies away. Like I would.
I'd be cleaning out my car.

Speaker 5 I would throw. I'd be going to McDonald's with them 39 cent cheeseburgers.

Speaker 8 I'd be picking them up.

Speaker 11 You're like cleaning stuff up and you're like,

Speaker 11 I'm not going to go find my wallet for a couple pennies. I'm going to toss them in the trash.
And that's what I did. I threw them away.

Speaker 5 How broke were you?

Speaker 11 Oh, ramen noodles and like ramen noodles but then one pack i'd stretch out for two meals so essentially i was getting away with like a dollar fifty a day in meals

Speaker 11 i mean i was fat and bloated

Speaker 2 i was fat and bloated you how you make ramen stretch out to two meals

Speaker 11 yeah you just half it you make it and then you half it i would put the others part aside i'd have one meal

Speaker 2 like shatter when you break those like dry noodles in half incredible you just yeah put it on the poll please at lebotard show can you be fat and bloated if you're stretching ramen noodles over two days?

Speaker 2 Like, that doesn't seem, it doesn't seem possible financially. It doesn't seem possible

Speaker 5 metabolically.

Speaker 11 Well, that's why I was fat and bloated. It's a lot of sodium.
It's a ton of sodium, and the body needed a vegetable, but I couldn't afford vegetables, so that's what I had. Ramen.

Speaker 2 All right. It is no longer L yes or L no.
It's now L yeah or L nah. All right.

Speaker 5 Are you ready? It's a hard A on that.

Speaker 11 I'm getting cooler.

Speaker 2 Are you ready to do this? Ready. All right.
Wearing a Roman Reigns t-shirt to date night with your wife.

Speaker 2 El Yeah or El Nah?

Speaker 19 El yeah.

Speaker 11 If you can't be your best ratchet self with your wife, who can you be it with?

Speaker 4 Thanks, Elf.

Speaker 2 UGA grad, what do you expect?

Speaker 2 The Rams black uniforms that were apparently blue, but everybody knows they were black.

Speaker 11 Yeah, El Nah, I'm really getting tired of these different color splays. Like, if they don't have anything to do with your past or history or anything like that, like, what are we doing here? Elna?

Speaker 2 The Miami Dolphins helmet should feature an old man's ass as the logo. El Yeah or El Nah?

Speaker 11 I feel like there is more to this story, but I'm just going to go El Yeah because

Speaker 5 that is it.

Speaker 5 Because

Speaker 11 I'm not going to lie, at first glance, that looked like a different part of the mailing.

Speaker 4 We all saw the same thing. We all saw it.

Speaker 5 See, it's awesome.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it looked like shriveled. It actually, my son, my son is four, and he stood up in the bath yesterday, and he goes, I promise you yesterday.

Speaker 11 And he grabbed his balls and he goes, what's inside of these?

Speaker 5 It's a long story, buddy. That's the question.
That's the favorite child. That's literally what I said.

Speaker 11 I was like, it's a really long story. But now I can tell him what's inside of that is the dolphins logo.

Speaker 5 So I'll go with that.

Speaker 2 What did you answer? Because it's a great question from your son at a young age. What was your answer?

Speaker 11 Well, the thing is, guys, I literally don't know what the ball part is and like what it's made of. So I just said, oh, it's just like ligaments and tendons and muscles.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, muscle is mine.

Speaker 11 I wasn't going to get into the semen part because he doesn't know what that is. So I was like, it's just muscles.

Speaker 5 The future of the human race is inside your sack.

Speaker 5 Okay. Jack.

Speaker 12 My biggest muscle.

Speaker 2 Sack, Jack.

Speaker 5 Do you know your own jokes? I thought it was obvious.

Speaker 2 Aliens exist.

Speaker 19 Ellia.

Speaker 2 Do you want to expound? Do you want to expound? Yes, you, I understand.

Speaker 11 I just think it's asinine to believe in this whole big-ass universe that we think that we're the only ones in it. That's wild and crazy to me.
Plus, also, the government literally said aliens exist.

Speaker 11 So we just

Speaker 5 say that. Rightfully so.

Speaker 2 Florida, Georgia being played in Tampa and Atlanta instead of Athens or Gainesville while Jacksonville Stadium undergoes renovations. El Yeah or El Nah?

Speaker 11 El Nah for me, dude. It's the whole point is that you get to go to the vapid wasteland dump that is Jacksonville one time a year and partake.

Speaker 11 And I know this because I lived in Jacksonville and partake in the festivities. Like there's no NFL football that's happening in Jacksonville that's interesting.

Speaker 11 I also think if you're going to move it, move it to the respective home state.

Speaker 11 Like I want Florida in Athens. I want to go to Gainesville.
So it doesn't make sense to me if you're gonna move it from the neutral site to two different

Speaker 11 to additional neutral sites. Doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 12 Yeah, wouldn't that have been a nice little treat just for two years to be able to play in the home stadiums?

Speaker 11 I think it would be great. And I think they'd probably see that like that's an even better environment than the world's arch cocktail party.
And the smell. Have you guys been to Jacksonville?

Speaker 5 I got me right about that story.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but when's the last time you were there? Because Jacksonville keeps getting mad at me because I say that because it's paper mills and they say that that's an outdated reference by me.

Speaker 2 I haven't been to Jacksonville in about six years.

Speaker 12 I went to the game this year, it smelled like garbage.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 so it still smells bad.

Speaker 2 The thing that I wanted a ruling from you on, L, before we let you go, and I will remind everybody that you should watch L on ESPN's vibe check. It is on Disney Plus, not Disney Minus.

Speaker 2 It's every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 5 p.m. at 5 p.m.

Speaker 2 We had a ranking of what the worst kinds of crying is.

Speaker 2 Jeremy made a big list of tier of tears where we have a ranking from bottom to top because we couldn't decide whether sobbing was worse than wailing and weeping.

Speaker 2 So, where did you land on your hierarchy and see if you have any objections here, L, to how Jeremy ranked these?

Speaker 23 Okay, from the very beginning here, we have frog in the throat, sniffling, sniveling, lamenting, choking back tears.

Speaker 22 Is it dusty in here?

Speaker 12 Cutting onions,

Speaker 7 allergies, shedding a tear, boo-hooing, whimpering, crying, the morning cry, like in AM, the morning cry, as if you are mourning a death, bursting into tears, waterworks, crying a river, bawling, crying your eyes out, hysterical crying, crocodile tears, blubbering, weeping, sobbing, the shower cry, wailing, the car cry, and the single Noshan Moreno tear.

Speaker 11 Wow, God, how depressed are you?

Speaker 5 Really?

Speaker 20 How do we have mourning like someone's death in the middle?

Speaker 5 Alonzo.

Speaker 11 You've never cried in the shower, Elle? I can't imagine. I don't remember a time where I was just in the shower and was like, this is the time for a good cry.

Speaker 20 It's a good spot because you can just let all the liquids out.

Speaker 5 How do you know the half mouth?

Speaker 2 And you're sort of ashamed and alone with your crying. It's a vulnerability you don't want anyone in your family to see.
And you're also nude.

Speaker 11 Okay, well, I just assumed it was sort of like the water trick when you have to pee and you let water run so it will convince your body that you have to pee too. Maybe it's the same way for your eyes.

Speaker 11 Can I throw one on there that I personally hate? I hate the cry when someone's trying to talk through the cry.

Speaker 5 Oh, they take a cry.

Speaker 11 Well, I just don't understand why. I just don't understand why they don't want me.

Speaker 5 That's blubbering.

Speaker 5 That's blubbering.

Speaker 5 That's blubbering. That's blubbering.

Speaker 5 I think that's all blubbering. I'll put it just to take above blubbering.

Speaker 22 So the talk through cry.

Speaker 5 Talk through cry.

Speaker 11 Yeah, the talk-through cry.

Speaker 11 And then do one i do one personally um that i don't think is on your list as well and i hate that i do it but i the warning cry where i warn you i'm about to cry so i do that a lot actually i'll start to say something i'll be like and when it comes to my kids um

Speaker 11 i'm sorry i'm about to say oh yeah

Speaker 22 i do i do i do my dad's been doing that a lot that's just going just above allergies and below shedding an actual tear.

Speaker 23 Oh, okay.

Speaker 11 All right. So you don't like the warning.
You don't want to be warned that there are emotions that are coming and they're manifesting.

Speaker 7 This is not a power rankings, Elle.

Speaker 16 This is a, we're talking about the power of your cry.

Speaker 22 So the most powerful cry is that Noshan Moreno tier, the most intense.

Speaker 11 Oh, 100%. That's a thug tier.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Sobbing above anything else. Oh, a thug tier.
Oh, man.

Speaker 11 Thug tier. Do you know how hard it is to just have one singular tear come out of one eye? It's it's the Denzel cry.
It's

Speaker 5 the master.

Speaker 11 It's the mastery of crying.

Speaker 2 Man, let's

Speaker 2 identify then here. These are Diana Rossini's kids.
What would you say this is right here? Big artists.

Speaker 17 Joey, off the oven.

Speaker 19 What do you want?

Speaker 19 What are you looking for? Big Argus is Allosaurus.

Speaker 11 I don't know where your allosaurus is.

Speaker 19 What are you looking for?

Speaker 19 What pop? No lollipops.

Speaker 5 Wow. That's a reason not to have kids right there.

Speaker 2 What's the word we give that? Is that sobbing? Is that wailing?

Speaker 2 Gnashing? What is that?

Speaker 11 Yeah, being a toddler. Like,

Speaker 11 it's so relatable. I would say that's, yeah, that's a, that's like a wine blubbering.

Speaker 11 I think it's like a mix of both, but it's incredibly related. My son had that same reaction today.
He started screaming this morning at breakfast, like screaming at the top of his lungs.

Speaker 11 I said, what's wrong with you, Xander? And he said, my cinnamon roll is hot. I was like, Jesus Christ.
Diana's exasperation is exactly how I feel 90% of the time. So, yeah, that's one of those.

Speaker 11 You just got to ignore them.

Speaker 2 She said it publicly. Xander is her favorite.
I can't believe she said it publicly. She just doubled down on it.
It's lovely seeing you as always. Vibe check.

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Nice seeing you, Al.

Speaker 11 Thank you. Bye, y'all.

Speaker 5 And Sports Center.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and also Sports Center, where Amin is hoping that she will be wearing a a Georgia Tech yellow jackets

Speaker 4 baseball cap.

Speaker 5 Get out of here, L.

Speaker 5 The segment's over.

Speaker 2 The segment is over.

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Speaker 2 Is there Back in My Day?

Speaker 8 There is, actually.

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Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Wait a a minute.
I got waiting for this one.

Speaker 17 This is the Don Lebatar show with his two guards.

Speaker 2 We are talking a lot about the best teams in the NFL, and I believe the best one I saw Sunday lost and had four interceptions

Speaker 2 because the stat I'm about to give you, maybe you will not be surprised by this, but the 2013 Broncos and the 2000 St. Louis Rams, that's the greatest show on turf, okay?

Speaker 2 And the Seahawks, these Seahawks are the only teams since 2000 to have, through 10 games of the season,

Speaker 2 a point differential of at least 100, but they're negative on the turnover differential. They're so good at offense that they turn the ball over a ton,

Speaker 2 but they have a point differential over 100. It's It's the greatest show on turf, and it's, I believe it's MVP Manning, 2013 Broncos, an offense that was really good.

Speaker 2 I think the fact that the Seahawks were kicking against the Rams for the game with that amount of turnovers

Speaker 2 makes them a team that even though they lost, I know we don't do this when teams lose, but even though they lost, they showed me something that makes me think that this might be a team that is so much better than the other teams that even against the Rams on the road, the Rams team that we all know to be good, a Rams team that in the last seven games, their quarterback has 22 touchdowns and zero interceptions.

Speaker 2 They were kicking for the game at the end. And I believe people are sleeping on the Seahawks just because they've lost a couple of times to the Bucs at home.

Speaker 2 And I know that that seems to be their fatal flaw, that Darnold's going to have the turnovers. But if he doesn't have the turnovers, they're going to beat you.

Speaker 2 And even if he does have the turnovers, they're probably gonna beat you.

Speaker 22 I have a stat to sort of support what you're saying here, Dan.

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Speaker 22 Her, our friend Diana Rossini.

Speaker 2 What's she saying?

Speaker 22 Seahawks wide receiver Jackson Smith N'Jigba

Speaker 22 is the first player in NFL history to record 75-plus receiving yards in 10 straight games to begin a season.

Speaker 23 That's the type of weapon that Sam Darnold has there.

Speaker 22 So if he doesn't turn the ball over, he has one of the elite receivers in the game, period.

Speaker 8 He's magic, that guy. He's a Lobos MVP candidate.

Speaker 4 That's how Glariam is.

Speaker 5 That's how he goes.

Speaker 12 Sam Darnold's situation, I think, is pretty interesting because as opposed to last year, and granted, at this time last year, we're wondering, okay, is Sam Darnold real?

Speaker 21 And kind of found out maybe he wasn't.

Speaker 12 Minnesota was going to have a decision whether they want to keep him or not keep him. Seattle already made a decision.

Speaker 13 Like, he's the guy.

Speaker 12 Short-term, long-term, this is the guy they're building their team with.

Speaker 2 Amim, can you give us an NBA stat of the day? Certainly. Let's play the music again so that we can do an NBA stat of the day as well.

Speaker 15 the start of the day.

Speaker 2 So, Dan, the Thunder won big last night. And once again, Shea Gildes Alexander did not play in the fourth quarter.
However, he only scored 23 points. The game before that,

Speaker 2 he scored 30 points without playing in the fourth quarter. So I looked up who leads the league all time in 30-point games without playing in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Well, I want to guess.

Speaker 14 You want to guess? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Go ahead. Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 No, sorry. I should say the stats only go back to 96, 97.

Speaker 2 But also, Michael Jordan didn't sit out a lot of fourth quarters because back then everybody played 48 minutes. So

Speaker 2 Shake List Alexander is actually tied for second with 24 such games.

Speaker 2 Number one,

Speaker 2 Steph Curry.

Speaker 4 29.

Speaker 2 They beat New Orleans last night. New Orleans is a sewer, like as a basketball city.

Speaker 2 Zion Williamson is going to be a historic bust. He lost a bunch of weight and still doesn't play enough.

Speaker 2 I'd be really sad if I were a Pelicans fan, but I don't recall, I may be doing this wrong for all the legend of Michael Jordan. I don't remember them always being up by 30.
I don't remember

Speaker 2 what OKC is presently doing where their star can sit out all the fourth quarters going back to last year is something I only remember Golden State doing in my lifetime watching basketball.

Speaker 2 Do I not have the proper recall on what Michael Jordan's teams were doing? I don't remember them, not even the year that they won 70-plus games, do I remember them always being up by 30?

Speaker 2 So, Dan, the best net rating of all time was the 95-96 Bulls. It's broken right now by the current Oklahoma City Thunder.
Wow. Let's see if they can finish this season out.

Speaker 2 But number, I guess, three is the Thunder last year. Number four is the Bulls from 96, 97.
So they were very dominant. But Dan, again, it was very rare.

Speaker 2 The idea that you would sit your players in the fourth quarter because you were up so big. That wasn't really a thing that much in the NBA.

Speaker 2 You had to take it to like five minutes or four minutes left in the game before you'd pull your starters.

Speaker 2 What is the shirt you're wearing, Zaz? Why are you wearing that shirt?

Speaker 21 It's my favorite rapper, Playboy Cardi.

Speaker 21 He was here the other night at Hammer and Bank Arena.

Speaker 2 Why? Did you go see it?

Speaker 12 Nah, nah, you would never catch me at that show. My son went.
My son. My son's a big fan.

Speaker 21 My son loves rap music, and he loves Playboy Cardi.

Speaker 12 And my son was there two nights ago.

Speaker 21 He bought me a shirt.

Speaker 2 That is your son making fun of you, right? That is your son. Maybe.
Disrespecting you.

Speaker 12 Maybe. I wasn't sure.
Like, he went to the show Sunday night.

Speaker 21 He loves, he had VIP. He loves Playboy Cardi.

Speaker 13 And he came home and yesterday he showed me a couple shirts he bought.

Speaker 12 He goes, here, I bought this one for you.

Speaker 5 I was like, wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 21 I will wear it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 He might be mocking me.

Speaker 12 I'll know for sure.

Speaker 2 I'm pretty sure he's mocking me.

Speaker 12 Playboy Carter, the antagonist.

Speaker 8 Any relationship to Rico Carti, the former great baseball player?

Speaker 5 Why do you do this?

Speaker 5 You did this with Alonzo Morning.

Speaker 2 You are descending into the same joke again and again.

Speaker 5 Somebody says a word, and then you just name the

Speaker 5 Rico Carti. I mean, they could be related.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they are related. It's called Word Association.

Speaker 2 It's a fun game, okay, Dan? No, No, they are. They are absolutely related.

Speaker 5 Okay. Excellent.

Speaker 2 Can you please give me the playing years of the baseball player that Greg Cody is mentioning?

Speaker 8 Underrated.

Speaker 5 Not quite a Hall of Famer, but pretty close. Tell you what.

Speaker 13 He gave me the shirt.

Speaker 2 Stonk of weed.

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