The Big Suey: Lollipops In The Oven (feat. Dianna, Joey, and Mikey Russini)

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Speaker 22 Hurricanes football coach Mario Cristobal is now reporting that Alexander Barkov may be back as early as late February.

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Speaker 4 Diana Rossini is going to join us here in a moment. Just a couple of cleanups here from what we were talking about involving the Panthers and the Heat.

Speaker 17 So 16 players, a record for the Panthers had at least one point in the win last night.

Speaker 4 They scored five goals in an 11-minute span after going down to nothing at the end of the first period to the beginning of the second period.

Speaker 17 So that's five goals in 11 minutes.

Speaker 34 And also,

Speaker 36 that Khalil Ware experience last night, I don't think is recreatable because they've lost the offensive rebound battle in eight straight games.

Speaker 38 And with Bam in the lineup, they're the best defensive rebounding percentage in the league.

Speaker 16 Without Bam in the lineup, they are the second worst in the league.

Speaker 14 I don't think that's a matter of effort and will.

Speaker 32 I think that Bam has a skill set that is unusual.

Speaker 27 I don't think that that is taught.

Speaker 25 I believe you can either offensive rebound the way Mitchell Robinson and Andre Drummond do, or you can't.

Speaker 37 And I do believe there is a lot of effort involved with that, but I don't think that Ware's problem there is an effort problem, and I'm not sure how much of that is learned.

Speaker 19 So typically we think of offensive rebounding as one sort of skill, which is a hunter skill.

Speaker 45 You go out there, you run, you're getting through those lanes.

Speaker 19 Defensive rebounding is more positional based, it's more IQ, it's more also communal.

Speaker 44 So I'm boxing out sometimes not so I can get the rebound, but so my teammate can get the rebound.

Speaker 24 So if you are a guy, typically you'll find guys who are good offensive rebounders and poor defensive rebounders are the ones who are really athletic, long arms, and like hunting the ball, but aren't so good at the positional stuff.

Speaker 15 You want to hear Spo detail what Sasha Barkov told him in the training camp? Video confirmation?

Speaker 21 Yes? Sure. All right, Greg, give it a look.
Come on.

Speaker 48 You know, I see those kind of possibilities with Bam.

Speaker 48 But everybody else, it's inspiring to see that. And it is heartbreaking

Speaker 48 to see him in crutches. But then you talk to him and say, no worries.
I'll be back in five or six months. And, you know, I love that spirit.
I'm sure their medical staff will be

Speaker 7 seven to nine. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I love that guy. I love everything he's about.

Speaker 7 What do you see? That backs up what I was saying. No, it does.

Speaker 6 In that clip, you hear them say the team said seven to nine. They never said out for the year, like you said they said.

Speaker 22 Okay, first of all, there's never been an athlete born who didn't think he was going to be back from injury quicker than maybe his team doctors did.

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 22 I think that's common. I think that's the fighter spirit.
That's what you want from your athlete.

Speaker 22 But Spo, at the end of that, also said, well, I don't know what his medical team might think about that. In other words, yeah, he could be just being optimistic, just to be optimistic, of course.

Speaker 19 The doctors would like a word is basically what what Spo is saying, what Greg is saying, what I'm backing up.

Speaker 7 Because seven to nine, by the way, that lands you in April, right?

Speaker 19 October, November, December, January, February, March, April.

Speaker 51 That's seven months, right?

Speaker 45 That's when the playoffs start.

Speaker 46 So if he's back.

Speaker 15 It's going to be awesome when he comes back in February.

Speaker 44 Well, you know what? According to Mario Crystal Ball, but if he does come back prior to seven months, I'm just saying, maybe you guys ask some questions as opposed to saying, oh, this is so amazing.

Speaker 52 In Greg's defense, Greg never said what Spo said that Barkov said. Greg said that the Panthers said that it was going to be seven to nine months.
So it doesn't matter what Spo said that Barkov said.

Speaker 23 It's what Greg said.

Speaker 48 We're going to make your pulley on Jeremy five minutes for being Jeremy.

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Speaker 36 Senior NFL insider for the athletic and the host of the Scoop City podcast.

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Speaker 20 He's on the heat broadcast talking to Ron Rostein.

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Speaker 25 It's unfair what we do to him, but he can't stop being Jeremy. Diana Roussini, as I mentioned, insider for the athletic and host of the Scoop City podcast.

Speaker 32 Always lovely to see her.

Speaker 27 Her kids, less so.

Speaker 37 So, explain to me what it is that's happening here, Diana.

Speaker 25 Where we are in the process of getting you a Santa that you can use in a threatening manner on your kids, but what's happening here with your kids that you put on Twitter?

Speaker 40 Let's see this

Speaker 20 sound of kids wailing, please.

Speaker 5 Jeremy, off the oven, What do you want?

Speaker 5 What are you looking for? Big Vargas is an allosaurus.

Speaker 11 I don't know where your allosaurus is. What are you looking for?

Speaker 7 No lollipops.

Speaker 7 Oh, God.

Speaker 7 This is chaos.

Speaker 7 Pidginas, monsters, demons. You could not write it up better than that.

Speaker 7 That was just art.

Speaker 55 Let me just see all of that again because I don't know. What is the asaurus I want?

Speaker 56 There's two kids there, by the way.

Speaker 55 There are two kids. One of them's playing with the oven, which is not something you ever want.

Speaker 2 I think one of them was asking for Jose Suarez.

Speaker 11 Joey, off the oven.

Speaker 5 What do you want?

Speaker 7 What are you looking for? Miss Ivanus is an allosaurus.

Speaker 11 I don't know where your allosaurus is. What are you looking for?

Speaker 7 No lollipops.

Speaker 6 And the kids are in pajamas, so it's clearly either breakfast time or dinner time.

Speaker 49 Not a time for lollipops.

Speaker 55 Before we get into the meat of this, though, just please, one more time at the beginning, I just want you guys to see this, what devil monster does this with the oven.

Speaker 56 The oven has to be secured from the inside because look at Joey just pulling like a total maniac demon on the oven for no good reason because he just wants to break the oven. Like, what is he?

Speaker 7 What's in the oven? Joey, I want the oven. What do you want?

Speaker 7 What are you looking for? This is not Jesus Allosaurus.

Speaker 11 I don't know where your allosaurus is. What are you looking for?

Speaker 7 What's up? No lollipops.

Speaker 33 Everyone knows the lollipops are in the oven, Dan.

Speaker 55 What's happening there, Diana?

Speaker 35 Please explain.

Speaker 11 Every parent is sweating right now. Every parent has been there.
So that day we were, I was on the show with you guys, and, you know, I was trying to explain to you the witching hour.

Speaker 11 And the guys on the show that had kids all, like, everyone had the same look, which is like, if you're a parent you know what witching hour is and it's between the hours of usually four and seven 730 and they just turn into these monsters like just the fact that just look at what mikey's asking for a a a kalosaurus and an allosaurus which i don't even know what the what they what they are he can name all the dinosaurs and then joey's like well i don't really know what i want but i'm gonna make i'm just gonna go for it i want a lollipop you know um there is something there that i feel like i have to defend joey so you're right like he was pulling on the oven there.

Speaker 11 And if you notice, the oven is locked, right? Like as you, as you noticed,

Speaker 11 we don't use that oven. So there are lollipops in that oven.

Speaker 11 That's why he was asking for it because he knows they're in there.

Speaker 11 But it's tinted so he can't see. But he's seen me.
put the snacks in there to just hide from them. So look, every parent's been through it.

Speaker 11 I am certainly one of a million gazillion people, but that was my way of just, I tweeted it just at you so you could see like

Speaker 11 this is what I'm talking about. You can't explain it.
They're just out of their minds. And I got to tell you, I had so many people reaching out after that video of just like, dude, I know.
It's okay.

Speaker 58 Wait a minute, Diana, you're using your oven as storage?

Speaker 21 Yeah, is that where everyone keeps the kid treats?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I am. Because

Speaker 11 we have two. We have one on the top and one at the bottom.
And the one on the top we use. The one at the bottom, we never do.

Speaker 11 So we just use it as as like a little candy stash spot so they can't get to it because otherwise they find ways to get to the candy why wouldn't you stash it in the one at the top and use the one at the bottom

Speaker 11 oh that doesn't make sense now look we've had this problem before where because the thing you should be asking is what if somebody turns that oven on like we've got a problem um so my dad um likes to take care of the birds in our backyard for us because we don't pay attention to anything and he's like you guys have this beautiful bird house like I'll come over during the week and feed the birds like he's retired he's got nothing to do obviously so he thought it would be smart to take the this by the way this was a gigantic issue in our family and I want your thoughts on what you think he took the bird seed the bag of bird seed that big plastic bag you get at home depot feeds the birds then takes it and puts it in the grill because he didn't want the deer or other animals to eat it.

Speaker 11 My husband comes home from work, always does the same thing, runs outside, turns the grill on to warm it up, to get dinner ready, and runs back in the house.

Speaker 7 So you mean bird seed?

Speaker 3 So you got fried bird seed as a

Speaker 7 pop seed.

Speaker 50 It pops popcorn, right?

Speaker 11 A beautiful grill that was destroyed because it caught fire and it burned through everything. And it was a whole thing.

Speaker 11 So my parent, my father's perspective was not like the normal person, which is, Kevin, I'm sorry. Like that was a dumb move.
Who puts bird seed in a grill?

Speaker 11 He was like, what idiot doesn't open the grill to check before you turn it on? So we have had this like six-month debate in our family of who was in the right here. And I would love your thoughts.

Speaker 11 Do you think Kevin was in the wrong for just running out there and turning the grill on and not looking? Because why would there be bird seed in there?

Speaker 51 Diana, do we have the same dad?

Speaker 7 It's possible.

Speaker 51 That's my takeaway, because that's exactly the type of thing my dad would do.

Speaker 59 Like,

Speaker 11 the thing is, he made Kevin feel terrible about it. And Kevin questions himself.
He's like, is it actually unsafe that I didn't open it?

Speaker 11 I'm like, you probably should check, but it's just you using the grill every night. Like, I get why you didn't look.
Because, again, who puts bird seed in a grill?

Speaker 58 Diana, do you have a garage?

Speaker 11 I do.

Speaker 58 So why is the bird seed not in the garage?

Speaker 11 Great question. Say that to Ricky Rossini.

Speaker 24 Don't say that to my dad.

Speaker 11 Does things all the time that make no sense. And then he's just like, well, that's your fault.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he needs a job.

Speaker 30 I don't think, though, I think that that was actually smart of your father, but he needs to tell somebody that he did that.

Speaker 20 Like, he doesn't, there's another step there.

Speaker 43 You do want to keep it away from the deer. You don't want bird seed just around.

Speaker 16 So now you've got an animal problem.

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, the deer and my son's out there anyways. He's eating the bird seed.
Maybe that bird seeds for the boys, actually.

Speaker 11 But if you think about it, now that

Speaker 22 you're refreshing my memory of the issue that we had with this, it is stupid for me to keep the lollipop bag in the bottom oven because we just experienced what it's like to do that put it on the poll please at lebotard show do you know anyone who puts the lollipops in the oven and also put on the poll have you ever used your oven for storage yeah the the other thing i would mention just parenthetically deer know how to open a gas grill like deer will smell what's in there and then use their long snout to open the lid like that i've seen it happen really

Speaker 11 when did you

Speaker 22 stop? No, dear. You know, they're not ambidextrous or anything, but a deer, picture the long deer just.

Speaker 22 I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 22 You are pibbing.

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Speaker 11 Oh dear.

Speaker 22 Thank you.

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Speaker 61 Give me a bigger story this weekend, Diana, than the Chiefs losing.

Speaker 11 The Philadelphia Eagles beating the Detroit Lions, despite the fact that they seem to just produce during dysfunction. Like there's so many stories about what's going on there and they don't care.

Speaker 11 Their defense stepped up and I would argue that what they're doing right now, they could win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 Despite the fact that the offense is still not even that good, if the defense is able to play the way they did against the Lions, who I think we can all agree are a very good NFC team,

Speaker 11 I think we're going to see the Eagles in the Super Bowl again.

Speaker 25 Oh, but not without Lane Johnson.

Speaker 4 They're 12 and 23 when he doesn't start.

Speaker 17 And you told us last week he's their most important player.

Speaker 11 He'll probably miss the regular season, but they'll get to the playoffs. If you look around at all the NFC teams, Philly to me is the least one I'm concerned about, about where they play.

Speaker 11 Like they travel well. They're fine.

Speaker 11 Whereas obviously the Lions,

Speaker 11 Jared Goff needs to play indoors, right? He's better indoors because what we saw on Sunday night, just I think we saw a lot of weaknesses there. So they're going to try to get the first seed there.

Speaker 11 But I think for Philly, they'll be all right. But you're right.
like, yeah, they need Lane Johnson, they need a healthy offensive line, they need a better run game.

Speaker 11 That entire offense needs to improve.

Speaker 11 Um, you know, and I reported recently that there's definitely players on the offensive side of the ball that are really frustrated with the way this offense looks.

Speaker 11 And this is not just AJ Brown, right? AJ Brown's been the most vocal, um, but I think this entire team wants to see this offense be a little bit more dynamic than it's been.

Speaker 43 Can you explain to us the bills of the last month?

Speaker 11 Like, how, how, and why does all of that happen and if the bills don't win that conference this year when are they going to win that conference yeah i i i don't know but if they're able to do what they just did they're going to be okay which obviously what do we always say about buffalo it's on the shoulders of josh allen and i think we've all kind of been annoyed by it or at least run out of patience with it because it can't always be on his shoulders because look they're not in the super bowl but we're back to the same point we're at every year with the Bills, which is Josh Allen is doing incredible things.

Speaker 11 He's making it work. The defense is playing fine.

Speaker 11 And he still doesn't have a lot of help.

Speaker 11 I mean, the fact that they were able to beat the Bucs to me tells me that they're way more dangerous than I think we were expecting them to be this season because I thought this was going to be a down year for the Bills.

Speaker 40 But how do you explain the specifics of what I just asked you?

Speaker 32 Which is they go,

Speaker 40 they beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Then they lose to the Dolphins, can't get much of anything going offensively, and then they go back home and they beat Tampa and they beat Tampa in a way that they're, you know, the quarterback has a performance that you've never seen before from a quarterback.

Speaker 4 And is that just home and road?

Speaker 39 Like, what is that?

Speaker 11 I feel like it's just home and road. We know that they're great at home.
Like that, that's for sure.

Speaker 11 I can tell you from talking to people in that building that morning, they were nervous about that game, Buffalo, right?

Speaker 11 Because I think they think of themselves the way you just described, which is pretty up and down, right? They haven't been able to just grab hold of this thing and stand out consistently this season.

Speaker 11 But I think we're seeing, I kind of think that this has been the theme of this year, right? Where usually this time this year, what are we saying to each other?

Speaker 11 All right, Patrick's going to probably be in the Super Bowl again. Jalen probably,

Speaker 11 you know, we'll throw one or two that could possibly be in there. And Josh Allen's usually in there too with the Bills.
This year,

Speaker 11 we could argue any

Speaker 11 12 teams, 10 teams could be in there, right? The Colts are making a case. The Rams are making a case.
The Seahawks

Speaker 11 still are going to be very good despite the fact that they lost to the Rams. There's still a lot of unknown of who's truly incredible.

Speaker 11 The New England Patriots, could they be the ones playing in the Super Bowl? Like right now, I think the New England Patriots are a better team than the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 11 We'll see if that changes because they've got some losses on defense right now in New England. But

Speaker 11 I just don't think it's as clear as it usually is this time of year.

Speaker 15 Diana, did Belichick have any shot at that Giants job?

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 11 It's so interesting because I was talking to people in New York on Friday, and I was going to report on Saturday that, you know, the Giants have so much respect for the New York Giants, the Giants have so much respect for Bill Belichick, but they really have never considered him in the past, and they're not going to consider him in the future.

Speaker 11 That is just not something that they want to do moving forward.

Speaker 11 And then Bill out of nowhere puts out that statement, like, yeah, I have no interest in the Giants. I don't know who was saying it at that point.

Speaker 11 Like, he, I don't know if that was Jordan reading social or what, but yeah, the Giants have no interest in Bill Belichick.

Speaker 11 And I don't, guys, I don't know of an NFL team that has Bill Belichick on their list as a potential candidate for an NFL job.

Speaker 22 When you look at the surprise teams in the league, like the Panthers and the Jaguars, what's the borderline playoff team that you're sold on that you think might actually be in the playoffs and win a playoff game?

Speaker 11 Yeah, that can actually not turn into a pumpkin. Yes.

Speaker 11 I'm going to eat this one. It's the Texans.

Speaker 7 Really?

Speaker 11 I think they're finding themselves at the right time.

Speaker 11 It seemed like there was way too much change initially, right? You had a new plate caller. You had new players on the offensive line, all the excuses in the world.

Speaker 11 And I hate to say it, but they needed a little time to figure out what they want to be. And they're figuring that out.

Speaker 11 Now, that being said, it is interesting right now that this is Davis Mills, right? The backup quarterback who's helping this offense look better, who's helping them look good.

Speaker 11 So I am interested. I mean, look, they're going to CG.
When CJ, their defense is great.

Speaker 7 Their defense is great.

Speaker 11 Isn't that the theme of this season right now, right? Look at Denver. Denver's not winning that game if their defense isn't what it is against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 11 The Philadelphia Eagles aren't beating the Lions without their defense.

Speaker 11 So if you can rely on that, the Steelers have been victims to that. If your defense can help and carry you, you can win some of these games.
This is what Minnesota was hoping for as well, right?

Speaker 11 Like they thought, all right, we got this young quarterback who needs a little time, but we'll keep it simple. We've got a great defense.
We'll get by.

Speaker 11 Five games in and it's not five games in with JJ and it's not good.

Speaker 7 Diana? Yes.

Speaker 51 On August 27th, I outlined the

Speaker 44 Shador plan.

Speaker 45 I said, look, here's what's going to happen.

Speaker 44 Flacco's going to start. He's going to be terrible.
He's going to get out of there.

Speaker 62 Then they're going to give it to Dylan Gabriel. He's going to stink.

Speaker 44 And then Shadur's going to get it because people are going to be clamoring for him to save the day.

Speaker 51 Now, here's what happened.

Speaker 62 In the first half of that game, they were actually chanting, we want Shadur because Dylan Gabriel was playing so poorly.

Speaker 42 But then he got concussed.

Speaker 51 And actually, Shadura gets in the game.

Speaker 42 I felt it was premature. Had Dylan Gabriel not got concussed, How much longer do you think it would have taken for the Browns to turn to Shadur Sanders?

Speaker 11 Long, all season. I don't know if they were trying to get him in there.
You know, we've talked about this on the show a lot, about how they feel about his ability to play the position.

Speaker 11 They've been preaching patience. He needs more time.
He needs to learn how to play quarterback in the NFL. He's not there yet.

Speaker 11 And you're certainly not getting the reps that you should be getting in order for that to happen, right? Because that's the only way you can get better.

Speaker 11 Now, I don't know if Shadura is doing what I've seen a lot of backup quarterbacks do, which is so practice ends.

Speaker 11 You take the script and you run through it again with another backup quarterback or a wide, you know, somebody to help you out. But that's still not the same.

Speaker 11 And I think Kevin Stefansky proved his point, right? Did anyone watch that and go,

Speaker 11 they've been holding him back? No, you watched it and you went, okay, there's some talent there for sure, but he's going to need more coaching.

Speaker 11 He's going to need more reps in order for him to go out there and start. And that's okay.

Speaker 11 So I don't think the Browns' plan here is to stick with Shador Sanders for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 60 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 11 Are you on the fan right now? Did Mike Greenberg call you yet? Are you ever going to go back to ESPN? People think it's so weird you're a writer now. All those years on TV? All those years?

Speaker 11 And now you write? Who reads that? Stugats. Why did he take a job at the Atlantic? Mom, I work at the Athletic.
What?

Speaker 7 You on YouTube?

Speaker 60 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 61 Roy, get ready to speed her up. But one of the more impressive...

Speaker 11 I'm talking so bad today, Tom.

Speaker 61 It's not because of you. It's not because...
I think you're doing well.

Speaker 61 It's not a criticism of you. We're We're just going to speed you up at the end of the segment like we do to get a maximized information during your limited time with us here.

Speaker 3 But one of the most impressive quarterbacking things I've seen when we always give the quarterback credit for winning is Tom Brady

Speaker 34 on the road going in the playoffs on the Tampa Bay Bucks through Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 43 But I'm going to give you a partial list on what it is.

Speaker 28 Jalen Hurts or who it is Jalen Hurts has beaten the last two years.

Speaker 36 You ready for this?

Speaker 28 Because we always give the quarterbacks credit for winning, correct?

Speaker 63 It's Joe Burrow.

Speaker 33 It's Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 17 It's Dak Prescott. It's Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 30 It's Jared Goff.

Speaker 31 It's Jaden Daniels twice.

Speaker 16 It's Jordan Love three times.

Speaker 26 It's Matthew Stafford three times.

Speaker 14 It's Patrick Mahomes twice.

Speaker 39 That's crazy, Diana. Yeah.

Speaker 11 This is why you can't count them out. This is why the Jalen narrative is a little peculiar and also difficult to argue because they're winning.

Speaker 11 They're beating good teams, but you have so many star players. You know what the Philadelphia Eagles are?

Speaker 11 They're the example of during free agency or even the draft when we always say, they've got too many stars. How are they going to, how are they going to share the ball? This is what happens, right?

Speaker 11 Not everybody's happy, but you are happy when you're, you know, spraying champagne all over each other in the locker room in San Francisco.

Speaker 49 Diana, will the Dolphins have the same amount of wins as the Chiefs after this week?

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 15 It's not even possible.

Speaker 49 Oh, they're on a buy after next week. Damn it.

Speaker 11 No, but if you guys remember last week, I said that the Dolphins have a chance to win the Super Bowl. What if I turn out to be right?

Speaker 7 What if they make a deep playoff?

Speaker 7 What happened?

Speaker 9 You're not right. You're not going to be right.

Speaker 22 Could be.

Speaker 7 No, it can't.

Speaker 57 You are negative.

Speaker 7 It really is.

Speaker 6 I'm a believer.

Speaker 49 Will Daniel Jones out-duel Patrick Mahomes and the Colts beat the Chiefs?

Speaker 11 No, I don't think so. I think at the end of the day, guys, this this may be, you may not agree.
I actually think this Chiefs team right now

Speaker 11 is slightly better than the Chiefs team we saw last year. And they played in the playoffs.
Like, they've got a good run game. They've got good receivers.

Speaker 11 They just don't have luck on their side right now, right? If you saw last year, they were winning those one-score games. They're 0 for 5 and one score games this year.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 I just think they need things to just fall their way a little bit.

Speaker 11 So in relation to the Colts, I think Patrick Mahomes, an angry patrick mahomes who says after the game it's all his fault that's not going to happen again is it time to call out justin herbert as looking like a career underachiever whoa no

Speaker 11 no no no no no no what's he won what's he won his offensive line is essentially joey and mikey right now he doesn't he's not he's not being protected you know and and

Speaker 11 Look, look what was what this team was when everyone was healthy. We were talking about Justin Herbert finally living up to the hype.

Speaker 11 So no, I don't think he's going to be a bust. I think if anything, they're going to continue to be really good as they keep growing and building that program.

Speaker 44 Diana, has Justin Fields worn out his NFL welcome?

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And you say wore out your welcome. Really, I think what you're asking is, is Justin Fields ever going to be a starter in the league again? No.

Speaker 11 You very rarely get this many chances, right? This was his third stop. We saw him in Pittsburgh a little bit.

Speaker 11 Look, he's a good person. He's a great teammate from everything I know.
Unfortunately, we saw what the New York Jets did, and then they've decided Tyrod Taylor is going to take over moving forward.

Speaker 11 This is a team that's got a gazillion picks over the next two years. They're going to be in the quarterback market.

Speaker 11 And unfortunately, Woody Johnson just spent a lot of money on both Aaron Rodgers and another $40 million on Justin Fields, who probably won't be a New York Jet.

Speaker 6 How do you feel about the death of the U.S. Penny?

Speaker 11 What happened to it?

Speaker 49 They're not making it anymore.

Speaker 11 They're just tired?

Speaker 9 Penny's dead.

Speaker 11 Like, they're just like, we don't care about you anymore?

Speaker 7 Yep.

Speaker 22 Costs too much to produce. Pennies still in rotation will be fair trade.
You can still use the pennies you have, but they're no longer making new pennies. Big, big story.

Speaker 11 Wow. So we're going to have to just recycle the same one.
So now, actually, I'd argue the value of the penny is worth a lot more. Because now if I see one,

Speaker 11 I'm going to make sure that I keep them. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 11 I don't really like that excuse. They're just...
It's too expensive to make. There's a little irony in there, no?

Speaker 22 Yeah, supposedly it costs like 3.7 cents to make a penny.

Speaker 11 So find four pennies and you'd be good.

Speaker 21 All right, very good. Darnold,

Speaker 15 Diana, what did Sam Darnold's performance mean on Sunday?

Speaker 11 That I think we still are questioning whether or not he can handle the pressure, right? They won 14 games with him last year and he turned into a pumpkin in the end there.

Speaker 11 I think this was a good test for him, and we were all hoping that maybe, maybe, just maybe, it's not necessarily about the, it's not the throws that Sam Darnold makes.

Speaker 11 It's the ones he doesn't in these these situations. I think that makes you wonder.
And I think that's what we saw against the Rams. And that defense figured him out.

Speaker 11 They knew how to put him in these positions. So I think he's just got to keep proving that he can get out of that hump.

Speaker 44 Diana, how many years away are we from an NFL game in Jerusalem?

Speaker 48 20.

Speaker 6 Diana, how much would you guess the average human's skin weighs?

Speaker 11 Eight pounds.

Speaker 9 double that actually under 20, 20 pounds.

Speaker 25 She's the NFL insider for the athletics.

Speaker 36 She's the host of the Scoop City podcast.

Speaker 17 Diana, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it.
As always, we will talk to you next week.

Speaker 11 So if I want to lose weight, just skin myself?

Speaker 14 Pretty much. That is correct.

Speaker 17 If you want to lose 18 to 20 pounds, that is correct.

Speaker 17 You can also just remove your small intestine.

Speaker 9 I have in front of me

Speaker 35 a list

Speaker 28 that annually Greg Cody gets very excited and honored that he gets sent to his house by old-fashioned mail so that he can mail in a ballot old-fashioned style.

Speaker 40 It's not even something you do on the internet, right?

Speaker 18 I think the Hall of Fame, you probably can do it on the internet, but I'm guessing that you, as a 71-year-old man, still lick a stamp and send in your baseball Hall of Fame ballot.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it's not from the Hall of Fame, it's from the Baseball Writers Association of America, which does the voting. And it is literally a self-addressed stamped envelope that you get in the mail.

Speaker 18 Oh, so you don't have to lick a stamp. It is licked for you by Jeff Idelson, the president of the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 40 He licks it and he sends it to you, so he's making it as easy as possible.

Speaker 22 I'm not sure whose saliva is on the stamp, but I can say that you literally are not allowed to do this by email. You have to return that envelope in the mail by a certain date.

Speaker 22 And I look forward to it every year. I do great research and I come up with a Boffo

Speaker 14 when he says great research he asks his sons Michael and Chris who he should vote for this year's nominees it is a weak list of candidates I only see I only see one these are the newcomers by the way there are other people on the ballot these are the newcomers right these are the newcomers Ryan Braun Edwin Incarnacion

Speaker 4 he has trouble with that name at a minor league game see if you can find Greg Cody having trouble with that name at a minor league game why'd you skip Shinsu Tzu Shu?

Speaker 37 Gio Gonzalez. I didn't.

Speaker 55 I've got 10 other names to get to here.

Speaker 45 I haven't skipped it. I haven't skipped it.

Speaker 7 It's still skipping. It's right.

Speaker 7 You went right.

Speaker 9 I skipped it.

Speaker 56 I'm getting to it. I've got 12 names in my life.

Speaker 7 I've got two names.

Speaker 56 I've got two names here.

Speaker 56 I've shot 12 newcomers here, and you attacked me after I said the game list in front of me.

Speaker 7 I've got a different list in front of me.

Speaker 56 I've got a special Dan Lemotard list sent to me by Jeff Idelson with Jamar Chase's saliva. Show us the list.

Speaker 22 Asian bias.

Speaker 7 Alex Gordon, Cole Hamills, Matt Kemp, Howie Kendrick, Nick Markekis, Daniel Murphy, Rick Porcello,

Speaker 16 Hunter Pence,

Speaker 20 and I don't think I mentioned

Speaker 4 Gio Gonzalez.

Speaker 56 There was no orders, just 12 newcomers.

Speaker 41 It's alphabetic order.

Speaker 55 You guys are doing it alphabetically. I'm not doing it alphabetically.

Speaker 49 There are two names on here I think should be in.

Speaker 63 I don't believe I saw two names on here that I would put in.

Speaker 22 One that has a slim chance.

Speaker 21 Go on, Cole Hamill. That's the one I got.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 I think

Speaker 49 I'm going to say Matt Kemp, but I know he didn't have the, like, he should be a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 23 You look at him in his peak.

Speaker 6 That's just a guy that you looked at him at his peak. Like, this guy should be a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 49 I know he's not. I'm just saying that guy, what a career letdown that was at the end.

Speaker 22 Well, the other thing is, and I've tried to explain this in the past, with me, there's a difference between being a Hall of Famer and being a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 40 I don't want to do this again, McGill.

Speaker 7 I'm not interested in doing this.

Speaker 33 No, it's a boy.

Speaker 7 Hall of Famer or first ballot? I'd like some new opinions, not some recycled, refreshed opinions.

Speaker 22 They're vital every year. They renew themselves.

Speaker 34 Who did you vote for?

Speaker 7 I haven't voted yet. I haven't got my ballot.

Speaker 55 You said you do meticulous research. Have you started doing it yet?

Speaker 22 No, I literally just got those names yesterday.

Speaker 6 Who's the person on here that's just excited to be on this list?

Speaker 23 Rick Percello, right? I mean, that's a problem.

Speaker 7 What is he doing on this list? Howie Kendrick?

Speaker 4 Come on, Nick Marcakis, Daniel Murphy.

Speaker 31 Yeah, Howie Kendrick. Howie Kendrick.

Speaker 57 Ridiculous.

Speaker 44 Ryan Braun's going into the UPS Hall of Fame.

Speaker 46 He framed the FedEx delivery guy, right?

Speaker 45 So UPS is like, Ryan Braun, he's good in my book.

Speaker 37 Was it the FedEx guy that he complained about?

Speaker 55 I thought he complained about the urine guy.

Speaker 28 The guy who came to his house and took the urine sample is the one that he contaminated.

Speaker 46 I thought it was the FedEx delivery guy who took the sample and it was supposed to deliver it.

Speaker 45 He said, oh, he's the guy who probably messed it up.

Speaker 23 I'm on it.

Speaker 4 Okay, Jeremy, you will get us the factual

Speaker 50 remembrance.

Speaker 55 Yeah, that is one of the great Whopper press conferences of all time.

Speaker 46 I mean, look, I was doing Mad Dog Radio at the time and I was like, this guy, you know what?

Speaker 45 Everyone's upset. Let me applaud him, man.

Speaker 57 This is one hell of a ballsy liar, man.

Speaker 42 This guy went to great lengths and extremes to say, look, I didn't do it.

Speaker 52 ESPN, November 27th, 2013, from Milwaukee.

Speaker 52 Brewers outfielder Ryan Braun said Wednesday that he's, quote, made amends with the collector he accused of mishandling his urine sample, which produced a positive drug test as part of Major League Baseball's Biogenesis doping scandal.

Speaker 52 So it is indeed the urine collector.

Speaker 54 That was one of the amazing press conferences of my lifetime in sports because I will tell you that his conviction was such and he leaned into it so much that he made me believe him.

Speaker 7 Like

Speaker 21 he's won Palmero's too, right?

Speaker 37 I mean, Palmaro shaking his finger at Congress was certainly strong, but the Ryan Braun press conference, see if you guys can find a condensed version of that so that I I can show the people what a giant lie this was.

Speaker 26 And I will again recommend the movie Screwball, the documentary that Billy Corbin made.

Speaker 31 I don't know if you guys have yet seen it, I have not yet watched it because I was told on HBO Max that Alex Rodriguez had an editorial hand in Alex vs.

Speaker 31 A-Rod, the quote-unquote documentary that is on HBO Max.

Speaker 63 The real true story of what an incredible clown show the baseball steroid era was that came through South Florida with Ryan Braun through tanning salons and just strip mall clinics is so laughable.

Speaker 29 It's so funny the amount of incompetence that went into Manny Ramirez and A-Rod and Ryan Braun just going to the local strip mall.

Speaker 4 And there's so many of these in South Florida, so many of these anti-aging clinics.

Speaker 28 The amount of incompetence would make you aghast to know that this was not some systemic multi-million dollar science experiment with people who were doing very smart things it was just a unfathomable clown show so I urge you to find screwball wherever it is that you get your documentaries by Billy Corbin now Dan respect to your nominations of Ryan Braun and Rafael Palmero but Lance Armstrong would like a word.

Speaker 24 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 19 He destroyed people's careers to make that lie live on forever.

Speaker 15 I'm not with you with the Lance Armstrong stuff. What?

Speaker 56 Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 21 He raised an incredible amount of money for cancer reasons.

Speaker 50 He destroyed people's careers.

Speaker 42 But he's trying to save lives. No, he wasn't.

Speaker 44 First of all, Livstrong was not about curing cancer. It was just about making cancer patients more comfortable.

Speaker 50 Pretty good thing. Good thing.
Good thing.

Speaker 46 Also, he was a piece of shit.

Speaker 57 Not only cheating,

Speaker 7 but destroying people. All right, hold on.

Speaker 38 Exhibiting the behavior of the people.

Speaker 7 Sorry, he's alright. I'm going to apologize.

Speaker 14 No, wait a minute.

Speaker 33 Your apology is not good enough.

Speaker 7 We're going to have to know.

Speaker 33 What you just did there is not acceptable, so I'm going to have to.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 48 Minor penalty, two minutes for a shit contribution.

Speaker 53 About allegedly a piece of shit.

Speaker 15 I just think the Lance Armstrong thing is complicated. I don't think it's very cut and dry.

Speaker 25 Well, but what he was saying is just the adamance and the defiance of the lie, how bold-faced the lie was, and it's a good call by him when he says Lance Armstrong would like a word, because Lance Armstrong was absolutely defiant in a way that made a lot of people believe him and feel all the more betrayed because they believe the strength with which he argued his position.

Speaker 63 And he did ruin.

Speaker 27 Which he did for several years. Like he was adamant in a way.

Speaker 38 That's a good call by Amin.

Speaker 25 That was stronger than the one press conference that Ryan Braun gave on a field. I think he was on a field in Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 And we're going to get that sound for you.

Speaker 52 But he also did behind the scenes, apparently, and I forgot this part, called Dino Dino Lorenzi Jr., who was the man who handled the urine sample, an anti-Semitic Cubs fan.

Speaker 7 He's pretty good.

Speaker 9 Accusing him of both being an anti-Semite and a Cubs fan.

Speaker 21 Which would make him hate Ryan Braun more?

Speaker 10 I actually think the Cubs fan, because Ryan Braun, half Jewish, full brewer. Well, we gave him half Jewer, full brewer.
No, Hebrewer.

Speaker 7 Hebrew Hammer.

Speaker 59 Yeah, we called him the Hebrewer, and I thought that that was one of the great nicknames of all time for Ryan Braun.

Speaker 7 Anti-Semitic Cubs fan.

Speaker 54 Lewis, poor Lewis, because our computers just went down there while Roy was trying to find the encarnacion sound of Greg Cody at a minor league game, the computer went down.

Speaker 16 And so poor Lewis is going through what I believe was like a 14-minute Ryan Braun press conference and trying to edit it down into two quick minutes.

Speaker 50 But I do, I could not.

Speaker 31 Look, after covering sports for as long as I have, I would say that generally I'm skeptical, I can be cynical, I'm not always naive, though I can be.

Speaker 54 Ryan Braun changed my opinion because my reaction to his press conference is nobody would lie that way.

Speaker 31 Nobody would lie that strongly if they had him and they had it.

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