The Big Suey: The Nick Saban Rehabilitation Program (feat. a very young Anna Paquin)

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Speaker 3 That's how he talks, Dan. The other thing that I wanted to get to, since I want to talk about the business of sports today, is college football and things

Speaker 3 changing so fast that some of these amateurs like Steve Sarkesian and I know he's not an amateur but he finds himself in a pressure cooker of business that has Desmond Howard saying,

Speaker 3 hey, don't be surprised if Sark and Texas part ways. Okay, now this is wildly interesting to me.

Speaker 3 Texas and Oklahoma going to the SEC, Big Ten getting involved in, hey, let's do private hedge fund $2 billion.

Speaker 3 The pressure falling on the head of a man who

Speaker 24 left

Speaker 3 his last job with a drinking problem, and I don't want to associate drinking problem with pressures, but whatever was happening was making Steve Sarkeesian show up with liquor on his breath in the morning when he had the less stressful job than the one he presently has, which is Texas has all the money, Texas has all the athletes, Texas expects to be good at this, Texas has all of those boosters who help, and he has failed so far at Texas.

Speaker 3 He is one of the many who came through the great pipeline better than the Belichick tree of how do we rehab? Get near Nick Sabin. Do it, Cristobal, do it, Kiffin, do it, Sarkeesian.

Speaker 3 You know how you rehab? Get next to Sabin and we'll slingshot you to every great job that you want. Amazing rehab jobs.

Speaker 3 If you've been watching the careers of those three people, Cristobal, Kiffin, and Sarkeesian, all of them laughed at in previous stops for a variety of different reasons.

Speaker 3 Cristobal made it back through FIU.

Speaker 26 That's the hardest way to do it.

Speaker 3 Sarkeesian's in the best job. LSU is not the best job.
None of the other jobs are the best job. That's the best job.
He's got the best chromosomes at quarterback. That pressure is mighty.

Speaker 3 Desmond Howard saying, don't know if they're going to part ways or not. I want to ask you guys, the Saban rehab path.
Is it better than the Belichick tree?

Speaker 22 Who are you asking Aminers as?

Speaker 3 All of you. Oh.

Speaker 6 Thank you. How do we...

Speaker 11 What do we do with the fact that Nick Sabin is from the Belichick tree?

Speaker 12 Dun dun dun.

Speaker 31 Is he from the Belichick tree?

Speaker 32 Yeah, he was his DC in Cleveland.

Speaker 23 No, like, I know, but I don't know.

Speaker 12 Belichick,

Speaker 3 can I ask why Christopa doing an FIU is harder than Lane Kippen doing an FAU?

Speaker 12 Equally hard.

Speaker 32 I don't understand how Christopher needed a career rehab.

Speaker 29 I don't know how he's lumped in.

Speaker 33 Like, there were real problems with Lane, real problems with Sark.

Speaker 26 It's actually kind of similar.

Speaker 13 No, the career rehab that Christobal needed was failure. It wasn't, that's all it was.

Speaker 35 It was Oregon failure and it's how do you no, no, your timelines are all wrong.

Speaker 39 Like he went to FIU, then he was supposed to be in Miami, met Al Golden, said this guy would kill my career, took a lesser job over at Alabama, got himself on Willie Taggart's staff at Oregon, became head coach when Willie Taggart went to FSU, left Oregon for Miami.

Speaker 19 Why did Al Golden feel that way?

Speaker 38 No, no, no. Christobal felt that way about oh, oh, sorry.

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 3 Who's on first?

Speaker 3 Regardless, being next to Nick Saban will catapult you into the sky the same way that being next to Belichick once did for an assortment of people who didn't do much with it except for Saban.

Speaker 3 Save for Saban. Is there a second? Who's second? Is it Matt Patricia making his way back through D coordinator at Ohio State? I'm dead serious.
Rebel? Oh, it is. Yes.

Speaker 40 I guess that's a player.

Speaker 3 I mean, came up through the staff.

Speaker 41 Yeah, how do they get counts?

Speaker 42 He didn't coach them, did he?

Speaker 3 I don't know if

Speaker 3 the guys who got chances were Charlie Weiss and

Speaker 3 Matt Patricia and McDaniels

Speaker 3 and Romeo Crinnell. Crinnell might have been the most successful of them.

Speaker 41 Bill O'Brien, maybe, has had some success.

Speaker 24 Bill O'Brien. Not really.
No,

Speaker 12 he was with the Texans for a long time. He had a little bit of success.

Speaker 11 And history looks back on his time and what he dealt with at Penn State as a success, and he parlayed that into the pro job.

Speaker 5 And he's doing a really good job, BC.

Speaker 12 Do you have that us? What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 Do you happen to know anything? Get that sound for me, please, Chris. You can't play it enough.

Speaker 3 Bill O'Brien O'Brien being angry and then chummy in a way that all of us understood the language of that. Mike, do you have any information on what's going on with Sark at Texas?

Speaker 3 Not just opinions, but information.

Speaker 11 Well, that Diana report came out that Sark would be interested in potentially the Titans' job. And the timing on that was bad for Sark.

Speaker 21 They haven't been performing well, went over like a lead balloon, checked in with sources, and that's a real thing.

Speaker 11 It's a real possibility, what Desmond said, that there might be a mutual parting of ways which is why you heard that report of stark to the nfl in the first place which

Speaker 26 if i'm lane kiffen doesn't seem like he's going to have much pause that right now all the momentum says that he's going to go to florida potentially this week and who knows what that does to uh ole miss's chances what are ole miss players doing are they the ole miss players now know that their coach is gone right qon lacey like he's all over the place if you follow him on on social media he was retweeting like

Speaker 11 he's like right now, if you go to his timeline, it's positive Lane stuff. But before, it's like, Lane's quitting on these guys.
Like,

Speaker 12 it's all over the place.

Speaker 5 I wish I could see his time. But

Speaker 21 you're still pushing crypto.

Speaker 10 Right now, there's rumor and innuendo that Lane might actually take this job and not just take this job, but Ole Miss might be dumb with him if he does take that job.

Speaker 31 And it's been handicapped by some people that are in the know.

Speaker 5 I'm not one of the people that's in the know.

Speaker 37 I've heard from people in the know.

Speaker 21 Like, they're saying he might not coach this Egg Bull if he takes this job, if it continues to unfold the way that it is, which is pretty shocking because Ole Miss, by the very nature of being in this college football playoff and all the talent being dispersed amongst all these teams, they have a shot at a national title.

Speaker 12 Has Olmiss ever shit?

Speaker 44 Has Ole Miss ever been in this current position they're in right now?

Speaker 12 I don't think so.

Speaker 26 I think so.

Speaker 34 They had a, well, last year, and and for whatever reason, this loss didn't stick to Lane the way that even Syracuse.

Speaker 18 Jackson Dart threw all the interceptions.

Speaker 32 Yeah, in the swamp against a team that was fighting for Billy Napier, but not a good Florida team.

Speaker 39 And Ole Miss, in terms of resources, you look at that roster last year.

Speaker 5 They were absolutely loaded, but there is a managing of expectations when it comes to Ole Miss that it wasn't looked at as this huge failure the way that it probably should have been.

Speaker 3 So the greatest programs in Ole Miss history are the most interesting programs in Ole Miss history. Do I have the graduates right? It's Favre and Manning Manning are the greatest teams.
No.

Speaker 26 Favre went to Senate.

Speaker 3 Okay, so it's just Manning. So it's just Manning.

Speaker 32 Eli and Ort.

Speaker 12 The senior Arch Manning.

Speaker 3 Okay, so in the history of Mississippi football, they for one year went in on the Chemdiche brothers and somehow bought the number one recruit in America.

Speaker 3 But this part is interesting to me if you're someone who cares about college football and the business of college football and how these coaches get rehab.

Speaker 3 Because if all of these guys bear, all of these people in coaching, if you just strip it all down to what's the point of what we're doing around here, is it to race young men or is it to get the best job so that I can have the most power?

Speaker 3 Lane Kiffin being such a mercenary at this point that he would be like,

Speaker 3 I'll try to win the championship whatever year, wherever I am. Just get me the best job right now that gets me to the next thing.

Speaker 3 I don't actually care about these players, this program, this city, and or winning, really. I'll win wherever I go.
Just get me the best position so that I can coach for the next 10 years.

Speaker 11 All of this is really unfortunate, and it sucks that the timeline times out that you have to kind of feel this position if you're Florida to get momentum in recruiting because it's all about getting the guys right.

Speaker 36 But Ole Miss is so good that it effectively nukes their season.

Speaker 31 Remember how Lane Kiffen, when he was younger, and I was looking back at some of these photos because I wanted to see images of mattresses burning, and it took me to this rabbit hole of Lane Kiffin looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders as he's about to tell tennessee he's leaving he looks so young it went i don't know if you guys remember 20 years ago but it was so poorly received and everyone's like this immature idiot like you can't leave tennessee in this fashion why are you leaving tennessee in the first place he left the usc and it doesn't go his way for 20 years later after he's done so much to reshape his in uh his image going through the nick sabin rehabilitation program, after getting fired on the tarmac for the job from the job that he left Tennessee for, for him to,

Speaker 26 for the optics to be, he is leading a playoff team, a team that has a shot at a national title

Speaker 12 right before that opportunity presents.

Speaker 36 You don't want him to repeat the same history just because you want to see the growth in Lane Kiffen, just for the optics.

Speaker 3 No, okay, all right, but answer my question on what's real here versus perception. Not

Speaker 12 really real.

Speaker 3 Florida people feel like they have their next coach okay but not optics on let's strip down professional football to its barest greed lane kiffin gets to nick sabin rehab and nick's telling him all the time hey lane cap this way not backward cap and he's like really is that what we're doing here coach really we got all the best players every time you and i step on the field we look around and our players are better than everybody's and we know it before every game why wouldn't lane kiffen believe if he he can do it at Mississippi or at FAU, wait, you're going to get me Florida's players and money?

Speaker 3 I don't care about the championship this year. I'll win it the next 10 years.
I'll build Alabama. I'll build Georgia.
I can go to Florida and have all the money and all the players.

Speaker 3 I'll do it with anybody. Why wouldn't Lane Kiffen think that?

Speaker 11 I think this timeline that Lane Kiffen is applying and maybe it's coming from Ole Miss.

Speaker 10 He says there's no such thing as an ultimatum, but I would understand why Ole Miss would give an ultimatum.

Speaker 27 Well, that could be semantics too, right?

Speaker 12 Right. Well,

Speaker 36 they're trying to win a national title, and they're fully expecting to be in the college football playoff with or without Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 33 And they want somebody that's completely bought in.

Speaker 29 Remember, they're the ones being spurned here.

Speaker 25 I get where they're coming from here.

Speaker 45 But if you're Lane Kiffin, this is a contrivance.

Speaker 25 Really?

Speaker 29 You could tell, Florida wants you so bad.

Speaker 26 You are so clearly the number one.

Speaker 31 If you tell them, stay...

Speaker 26 at bay, let me finish this out with Ole Miss. I don't think they're going to hire somebody else.

Speaker 36 There was reports of a a meeting with John Sommerall that as soon as it came out, the reports were that meeting was canceled.

Speaker 37 Lane Kiffin is the only candidate right now for Florida.

Speaker 18 Everyone at Florida is so certain Lane Kiffin is going there.

Speaker 26 Why do this?

Speaker 45 Why adhere to this contrivance?

Speaker 27 So it leads me to believe that the ole miss thing is real.

Speaker 29 Just from how we're reading it, I laid it all out for you.

Speaker 37 Why is there this time crunch to get this thing done now?

Speaker 39 Even though Lane has made this mistake before, mistake because the optics were so bad when he left.

Speaker 3 Wouldn't the time crunch just be that Florida's got all this money, we've got the better job, we're better than Mississippi. Hey, Lane, get over here.

Speaker 14 We need you to start this job.

Speaker 9 I'm thinking the time crunch is coming more from Ole Miss.

Speaker 26 That's what I think.

Speaker 45 Because he's got this job. He has it there.

Speaker 48 It could just be not an ultimatum. It could just be them saying, hey, can you tell us?

Speaker 36 And I understand why Lane's doing it.

Speaker 36 Lane is the hottest name at the greatest time to be a hot name in the history of this sport.

Speaker 11 And he's looking at that place like, I have come through personal demons.

Speaker 36 I've come through what was a terrible experience in Tennessee.

Speaker 45 I went through Al Davis.

Speaker 36 This is the job for me.

Speaker 37 This is where I want to be.

Speaker 36 I can understand why the temptation is such that he's going to take this job.

Speaker 11 But man, I just wish all the parties would understand.

Speaker 9 But that's hard to explain to Ole Miss when he's leaving you for a team that right now is a no.

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Speaker 3 What you're doing here that to me is most interesting, Mississippi has always been a doormat afterthought as a place, just regional identity on we're last at everything.

Speaker 3 Poverty standards, the worst things, all happen in Mississippi.

Speaker 3 For Lane to come in here and play with the emotions of that, with the most mercenary of things of, I don't care about your brown lake, I can win anywhere.

Speaker 3 And I'd really rather do it near the Blue Martini because it was fun to do it at FAU.

Speaker 3 And I loved the sunshine. And my family loves the sunshine.

Speaker 11 They just announced that Blue Martini and Fort Lauderdale is closing. They couldn't withstand Lane leaving both.

Speaker 23 They're moving it to Gainesville.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 3 The insult, the regional insult.

Speaker 5 Lane hasn't helped this case either because he's like retweeting things like DJ Lagway is possibly still.

Speaker 3 This is who you married. Yeah, and like that's part where you're asking Lane to be like, oh, Elaine, I know you love troll.

Speaker 3 It's like asking Gilbert Arenas, hey, Gilbert, could you be a little bit more kind of like demure right here? Like, no, man, this is who he is.

Speaker 3 If anything, the discomfort that old Miss feels is fueling Lane Given. He's like, that's why he goes on McAfee and he and he does this whole, oh, yoga and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 Oh, but he's he's leaving you and he's cutthroat mercenary, get a tan, has grown through the business parts of this, fired on the tarmac at USC, has the scars of, yes, I'm doing this as stepping stones.

Speaker 3 You don't think me an educator, do you? Like, you don't even expect me to learn from burning mattresses. I kind of like leaving burning mattresses in my wake.
Dan, take it a step further. It's like,

Speaker 3 that's kind of the positive, the silver lining on that. The dark cloud is, man, none of these jobs give a shit about any of us.

Speaker 21 Now I'm supposed to be all old Mrs.

Speaker 3 Feelings, like he doesn't care because he's been, as you said, not generationally been through this.

Speaker 26 Seen it.

Speaker 12 Seen the money.

Speaker 3 As the head coach of that team, look, I'm sorry to do this to you, old Miss. I really am.
I loved when my father would call you Ole Miss anytime they put it in the teleprompter. But Lane Kiffin

Speaker 3 was always using you as a renter. Like, if the business of this sport is a bit of a brothel, like, this relationship was never real with you.

Speaker 27 Doesn't Ole Miss know that the minute they hire him?

Speaker 36 They knew that the minute that they hired him. And I understand why they're hurt, though, because the dynamics changed.

Speaker 19 Well, because they're on the cusp of a playoff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and that's where the dynamics changed a little.

Speaker 45 bit.

Speaker 31 But I understand why Lane is doing this.

Speaker 37 It's not different than when Mario Kristobal, and Oregon was a better job job than ole miss ever was mario kristobal left a team that that was i think playing in the pac-12 championship game at the time because his dream job came available and for lane kiffen he took your program to heights you never thought possible like he is more responsible for your success than any coach in your in the history of your program i would think so maybe there's a bit of understanding but that's hard to separate that emotion when you're but you're you have a good shot at winning a national title because the talent is so evenly distributed Zaz, I know you're a suck who doesn't watch a whole lot of movies, but this used to be a big trope in the 90s.

Speaker 3 The falling in love wasn't part of the plan, right? That's a half-all miss. It's like they knew it was a business relationship, and then they fell in love, and they thought it was real.

Speaker 3 And then Lane Kiffen kind of like put out a cigarette and left some cash on the bed. I said, hey, you knew what this was.

Speaker 3 The part that's crushing is him so wildly reaching past expectations. This is

Speaker 3 this whole thing as Lane Kiffen is boy genius is wildly interesting because we've seen him climb through the very smallest crevices that South Florida rehab has.

Speaker 3 He made FAU a bowl team with really tiny players. And when you give him the big ones, he's pretty good.
He's learned a lot in the last 15 years. The Florida job is a great one.

Speaker 3 but he will never be hotter than he is right now because he's interesting. This is the wild west of business.

Speaker 3 He's perfectly equipped, having learned business at 30s from the Davises, who will give all the power to Tom Brady to please help me, boy genius. Please teach me football things.

Speaker 11 And the presumption is his shtick flies at Florida better than anywhere else, because even though they had success with Urban Meyer, that is a spurrier town.

Speaker 46 He loves Spurrier, Kiffin.

Speaker 3 Oh, but

Speaker 3 the whole thing, this carefree, perfect tan walking into that city,

Speaker 33 it's wonderful.

Speaker 3 But Mississippi's betrayal here because it's, you're sitting here talking about the coldness of the relationship.

Speaker 3 This regional identity, what do you mean we can be this close to being the best and you can do it with Trinidad Chambliss? Like, what do you mean we can come close?

Speaker 3 Mississippi knows that they have a team that can beat anybody.

Speaker 3 That's crazy. And it's not even because Mississippi's that good.
It's because everyone else is kind of Mississippi.

Speaker 3 Like, Zazzlo, you can speak to what's happening at the top of the sport where Louisville looks good one week and then doesn't look another week.

Speaker 3 Lane Kiffin has built something that is good enough to beat anybody and Mississippi never gets to be that.

Speaker 18 No, it's a crapshoot and Ole Miss right now would have a home game to start out the playoffs. Like they have a home game and then they'd be two wins away from playing for the national championship.

Speaker 3 Also the inferiority complex, right? Ole Miss is sitting here saying, well, who's so good about that?

Speaker 50 We're pretty good too.

Speaker 46 Look at it.

Speaker 3 And it's like, no, you're not.

Speaker 27 Boy, and you look at Florida, who has three wins right now.

Speaker 3 But imagine that, like, being told, yeah, you're hot, but that's Florida.

Speaker 51 I'll tell you, you know what's bullshit, man?

Speaker 18 You're saying that I'm not a good movie guy.

Speaker 44 I'm a great movie guy. You're not.

Speaker 3 There's so many

Speaker 3 foundational fundamental movies that you want to see.

Speaker 44 Why?

Speaker 12 Can I even see Dodgeball? That's crazy, by the way. When I heard that from the show yesterday, that's what I'm doing.
I'm playing today.

Speaker 44 Who cares?

Speaker 12 You're a movie. Dodgeball.

Speaker 44 I'm a great movie guy. No, you're not.

Speaker 29 You're not a great movie guy.

Speaker 12 You're not a great guy.

Speaker 44 I'm a Dodgeball. You haven't seen any James Wilde movies.

Speaker 51 Whatever, man. I could definitely come up with movies that you haven't seen.

Speaker 12 I haven't seen every movie.

Speaker 26 Name one.

Speaker 51 Yo, there's too many to name.

Speaker 12 Name one.

Speaker 44 Name a movie you haven't seen.

Speaker 3 Name a movie you haven't seen. So you're claiming that anyone can throw a movie of any kind at you and you haven't seen it.
Human cine.

Speaker 3 Of course I've seen human cinevi.

Speaker 3 My point is that Zaz, maybe not anyone, but Zaz cannot sit here and say, I watched a movie that Amin hasn't watched. You haven't watched freaking Dodgeball.

Speaker 51 Okay, you keep coming back to Dodgeball.

Speaker 12 James Vaughn.

Speaker 3 Zaz, the part that, where he has you here, I think we have three cinephiles in our universe who believe themselves to have watched more film than the rest of you. I believe it's Adnan.

Speaker 3 I don't know who wins here. Samson probably wins, but Amin might think himself in this company.

Speaker 3 Amin, Samson, and Adnan really are movie guys, and you're a bit like Cody, where if you haven't seen a couple of fundamental things,

Speaker 3 you're disqualified from being in the conversation. Amin does a weekly podcast that he's seen all your bad movies.
When you throw centipede at him, that's nothing to Amin.

Speaker 3 What are you talking about, man?

Speaker 12 Paul Blart Mall Cop is an episode that came out today.

Speaker 3 I have to watch that. Guess what? That's the second Paul Blart movie I've watched.

Speaker 12 Do you know?

Speaker 44 I've seen them both.

Speaker 3 Do you know that Paul Blart in the first six days of DVD sales, they made $29 million?

Speaker 3 Six days, $29 million.

Speaker 3 That's moving units, my friend.

Speaker 20 I had second-hand embarrassment from that movie. The scene where he gets really hammered in the bar.

Speaker 52 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 I had major second.

Speaker 20 I didn't like that scene.

Speaker 6 I couldn't handle it.

Speaker 3 But you are, are you walking back from the position that you want to do a movie pod with a mean because you have as much at movie knowledge as he does? No, no, no.

Speaker 3 Because he's disrespectful of your lack of movies.

Speaker 24 It was very disrespectful.

Speaker 27 You threw it out there like it was nothing. I know great, I'm a great movie guy.

Speaker 3 We're not, first of all, Dent. We're not doing a movie pod.
I can't do a pod with someone who does not know shit about the subject material.

Speaker 26 I'm not doing a movie pod with you. I'm just saying, like, I felt that way for you.

Speaker 3 It would be such a waste of my time.

Speaker 12 I would never do it. It would be such a waste of my time.

Speaker 27 I thought this like minutes ago, way before you thought that i would never do movie pop with you

Speaker 12 don't ask me don't ask me to do

Speaker 3 you you're late

Speaker 28 have you seen the godfather i gotta ask questions like that to this guy yo yo like are you trying to insult me i'm just trying to figure out you're a guy who doesn't watch movies so i don't want to assume things have you seen casino don't ask me questions like like i'm a sucker okay ask me godfather because you know sorry you you exhibit the behaviors of a sucker don't ask me questions that are insulting you know garth brooks turned down a role in saving private ryan because he didn't want to share the screen with tom hanks and matt damon he wanted to to be the stars.

Speaker 11 Spielberg countered that by saying, well, what do you want to be?

Speaker 37 I want to be a villain.

Speaker 11 Earlier in the process, he got sent the script to Twister and he's like, I'm not going to be in this.

Speaker 12 Why?

Speaker 5 Because the villain is the Twister.

Speaker 3 That's a good point.

Speaker 27 Did you know that? I mean, I knew that.

Speaker 24 Have you seen Twisters?

Speaker 6 Yeah. Have you seen Twisters? Yeah.

Speaker 27 I like that movie Twister. Zach Glenn Powell.

Speaker 28 I like him.

Speaker 3 Okay, this movie pod that I now want to put together, sponsored by Metalark, is it all going to be Zaz? Have you seen this? Because Because you're really disrespectful of his movie knowledge.

Speaker 3 I don't respect him at all in the movie space. I have zero respect.

Speaker 51 I don't respect you in the movie space. I actually thought that a few minutes ago.

Speaker 12 I thought that before you decided. Wait a minute.

Speaker 3 No, you got to respect the mean in the movie space.

Speaker 12 I don't.

Speaker 47 I don't have to.

Speaker 26 He works at it.

Speaker 3 Okay. He really pours himself into it.

Speaker 19 I don't even have to work at it.

Speaker 3 Dan, why would I respect someone who so clearly disrespects the medium when he hasn't seen such classics?

Speaker 12 I love Dodgeball.

Speaker 22 I'm a great movie guy.

Speaker 3 Well, he wants you to come up with another insult other than James Bond and Dodgeball.

Speaker 12 But I'm a phenomenon.

Speaker 45 I'm willing to.

Speaker 12 Yes, who's in it?

Speaker 19 John Chavolta will be sucked.

Speaker 3 What's the story?

Speaker 12 Yo, I don't need to explain how to apply the phenomenon to you.

Speaker 51 Didn't he have a stream? He's got like a disease, but like a bee. He thinks that he's like special, stupid movie man.

Speaker 44 I don't need to remember.

Speaker 40 What's Chasing Amy about? Chasing Amy is a great movie.

Speaker 12 What's it about?

Speaker 51 She's a lesbian, and they do fingercuffs. You know about the finger cuffs? That's all I need to say.

Speaker 47 You know about finger cuffs.

Speaker 3 You watch collateral?

Speaker 28 Nah, I've never seen collateral.

Speaker 49 Oh, that's a great one.

Speaker 28 I know. I've never seen it.

Speaker 49 I know.

Speaker 44 Is he Minority Report?

Speaker 47 Of course. Great movie.

Speaker 27 Love an Minority Report.

Speaker 26 Have you seen Clifford with Martin Short?

Speaker 7 Yo, don't ask me stupid questions. It's a good movie.

Speaker 3 Can we do...

Speaker 3 You know about that, where you play it with a mean, but Amin plays it with you on the movies?

Speaker 3 Because I'd be willing to sponsor and fund the podcast of Amin asking you whether you've seen movies and then getting mad that you haven't seen very basic movies.

Speaker 3 Because I do believe if we keep doing this that Amin will put in front of you 150 movies that he will have expected you to see

Speaker 3 and then would not respect your movie opinion because you hadn't seen those movies.

Speaker 3 Like I think Amin's gonna be right here that there are many things that you haven't seen because Amin has committed himself over the last 10 years so much to watching so many shitty movies.

Speaker 19 I mean that sounds like a waste of time that Amin needs to actually commit so much of his time to become a movie expert.

Speaker 3 This exercise is going to earn my respect of amin that's what this exercise is going to be not the other way around is it though because it doesn't sound like it can be had because it doesn't sound like you want to hear any of as many as possible but i i do believe amin to know a great deal more about movies than the app than most people i do you know why because i watch a ton of movies i do too no you don't yeah too no you don't yeah too

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Speaker 24 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 28 John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's Carlito's Way if I do it for you?

Speaker 19 I think it's pretty good.

Speaker 12 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 45 Stugats.

Speaker 51 You think you're big time?

Speaker 51 You're gonna die.

Speaker 51 Big time.

Speaker 56 That is

Speaker 56 on my infamous scale of one to ten.

Speaker 56 That's a 7.6.

Speaker 12 Solid. Good job.

Speaker 12 That's a Sue nominee right there. Good.

Speaker 35 This is the Don Levatar show with the Stugats.

Speaker 3 What do you know about that English picture?

Speaker 27 I would never watch the English picture.

Speaker 12 That movie looks boring as hell.

Speaker 19 I would never watch that.

Speaker 21 It's nothing won best picture. I would.

Speaker 26 Whatever.

Speaker 44 Oh, because a boring movie's never one best picture?

Speaker 18 Were you crazy?

Speaker 3 Beautiful Mind?

Speaker 26 No, I don't want to watch that.

Speaker 12 It won best picture. It's boring as hell.

Speaker 51 Who cares?

Speaker 47 That movie looks boring as hell.

Speaker 26 It good. Beautiful mind.

Speaker 33 Ron Howard.

Speaker 3 What about him?

Speaker 16 You directed it.

Speaker 12 Okay, Russell Crowe. Yeah, you won.
I think it was.

Speaker 27 We're just naming people in Beautiful Mind. Is that what? Is that the exercise now?

Speaker 36 Jennifer Connolly was nominated.

Speaker 3 Who cares? Best eyebrows.

Speaker 28 Jennifer Connolly. I like her.

Speaker 5 You know about that Rocketeer?

Speaker 28 Although I didn't like the last scene with her in Requiem for a Dream. I didn't like that.

Speaker 3 You know that there Will Be Blood? What you know about that? One of the best movies ever. Okay.
No Country for All Men?

Speaker 27 Yeah, No Country for All Men's good. Citizen Kane?

Speaker 12 I don't believe him. That's apocalypse.

Speaker 51 You don't don't believe in no country for all men?

Speaker 41 Ask me something.

Speaker 44 What's the weapon that you're talking about?

Speaker 12 Ask me not Shakur. Yeah, what's a weapon?

Speaker 51 He's got the thing that pops out.

Speaker 18 It's not a name. There's not a name for that thing.

Speaker 3 Put it on the poll at Levitar.

Speaker 3 Is there a name for that thing that Shakur

Speaker 40 popped out? It's a name.

Speaker 44 There's not a name.

Speaker 44 He made it like in his garage.

Speaker 3 It's a cattle thing. It should have a name.
What is that thing?

Speaker 40 One of the scariest weapons in the history of the movies.

Speaker 3 What do you know about that pianist?

Speaker 27 Yeah, I know about it.

Speaker 2 Adrian Brody.

Speaker 12 Very young Aqua.

Speaker 51 Very young Anna Packwood.

Speaker 5 I think that was the piano.

Speaker 31 The very young Anna Packwood was the piano, not the pianist.

Speaker 12 We caught your ass.

Speaker 49 You don't know about that pianist.

Speaker 26 I used to.

Speaker 3 Do you or do you not know about that pianist?

Speaker 12 It was the piano.

Speaker 44 Do you or?

Speaker 51 Admission coming. Admission coming.

Speaker 17 I lied about the pianist.

Speaker 12 That was a lie.

Speaker 44 How many other lies are in there?

Speaker 3 I used to think Mina Times was the biggest fraud when it came to movies, because you know, if you asked Mina about a movie, she said yes, but she's just read the Wikipedia, she's never actually watched it.

Speaker 3 This guy hasn't even taken a step of reading the Wikipedia.

Speaker 18 That's right, because I don't need to fake it.

Speaker 3 Adventures of Pluto Nash?

Speaker 19 No, I would never watch that. Who cares?

Speaker 3 Norbit?

Speaker 27 I would never watch that.

Speaker 44 Why is my movie...

Speaker 51 Why does my movie credibility come from you have to see as many awful movies as possible?

Speaker 24 Thousand Words?

Speaker 52 I never even heard of that.

Speaker 3 Soulman?

Speaker 26 No, I don't want to watch Soulman.

Speaker 3 Why not?

Speaker 49 You're an ally?

Speaker 26 White Man's Burton?

Speaker 20 Yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 52 That movie is good. Who's in it?

Speaker 28 Samuel Jackson.

Speaker 12 No. No.
No. What is that?

Speaker 52 Black Snake Moan.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah. I never seen that.

Speaker 52 That's pretty scene of my channel.

Speaker 17 I don't like that. Harry Vellavonte, yes.

Speaker 3 Wait, you made that reference. Yo, you know about that Beetlejuice?

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 3 Beetlejuice 2?

Speaker 27 I haven't seen Beetlejuice Beetlejuice yet. Fraud.

Speaker 44 Whatever, man.

Speaker 19 Living my life here.

Speaker 44 I don't time to see everything.

Speaker 3 Well, it can't be, though. Look, he just called you a fraud and can't be whatever, man.
I gotta live my life. I don't care about movies the way you do.
He's testing.

Speaker 40 That's my point.

Speaker 51 But to say I'm not a good movie guy, that's a lot.

Speaker 5 Very young and a pack one.

Speaker 40 He's testing.

Speaker 17 I lied about that one.

Speaker 3 How many others did you lie about?

Speaker 28 Am I ashamed or embarrassed about that?

Speaker 49 Maybe both. Embarrassed.
Not ashamed.

Speaker 26 Dan, you know who's a movie guy?

Speaker 3 Roy's a movie guy. You know who's a movie guy? Mike's a movie guy.

Speaker 2 You know who's a movie guy?

Speaker 3 Jeremy's a movie guy.

Speaker 52 Musical theater.

Speaker 44 You know who else is a movie guy?

Speaker 3 Chris is a movie guy.

Speaker 26 You know who else is a movie guy?

Speaker 3 Dan is a movie guy. You know who's not a movie guy?

Speaker 3 You seen Rambo?

Speaker 44 You know I haven't seen Rambo.

Speaker 36 Have you ever seen I'm gonna get you, Sucker?

Speaker 26 No. Well, it's about you.

Speaker 3 And they got you.

Speaker 3 I'd listen to that pod just asking Zaszlo, have you seen this? Yes, I've seen this.

Speaker 12 Good movie.

Speaker 3 And that's his analysis.

Speaker 3 Or not a good movie, or he's just lying about having seen the movie. We got to hit him up.
There's got to be a limited number of follow-ups.

Speaker 3 Can't just have follow-ups until the end of the day, but we're going to have a limited number of follow-ups just to try to determine whether he's actually seen the movie or not.

Speaker 3 I would say, though, Zaszlo, like this was interesting.

Speaker 3 I would say that what he's just done to you is he has made Dodgeball a movie that if you have not seen it, it disqualifies you from giving movie opinions.

Speaker 27 Why?

Speaker 19 Why is that the movie? Dodgeball.

Speaker 46 Who cares?

Speaker 3 But I think that's what happened.

Speaker 26 Am I wrong about this?

Speaker 3 I didn't think you had this strong opinion about Zazzlo until that happened. You know what? It's the crown jewel of all of it.

Speaker 3 It started with He's Never Seen Rambo, which I was like, oh, but it's an older movie. Okay, it checks out, right? Then it turned into haven't seen the James Bond movies.

Speaker 15 Well, okay, some of them are old, but some of them are pretty new and were big deals.

Speaker 27 I'd like to see the James Bond movie.

Speaker 26 But then when it hit Dodgeball, because Dan, there is a very

Speaker 3 me and Zazz are not that far apart in age. There's a very seminal era of movies: Wedding Crashers, Old School, Hangover, Dodgeball.
Like all those movies came out around the same time.

Speaker 3 They featured what they called the Brat Pack.

Speaker 32 Like,

Speaker 3 that's what they call them. They call them the Brat Pack, Vince Vaughan and Owen Wilson, and Ben Stiller and all these guys.

Speaker 11 I think it was a different name, like the Slack Pack or something.

Speaker 23 Brat Pack was the 80s.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Some shit like that.

Speaker 52 And a very young Anna Pack went.

Speaker 3 And a very young Anna Pack. But the point is, for him to just have like a blind spot to this strong decade of just banger, banger, banger movies, I know I can't respect him as a movie person.

Speaker 3 I can respect him in other ways. As a soda drinker, I respect him.
But like not as a movie person, no. I'm sorry that we've arrived there.
The Reaper has been angry for a while.

Speaker 3 I've thrown a lot of requests at video today.

Speaker 3 I will get to that in a second. And I've thrown a lot at Chris Cody today, who has tuned out most of the show, but

Speaker 3 did find Bill O'Brien an hour later trying to go after Trevor and others because this is audio worth replaying.

Speaker 54 Coach, I'm wondering, do you have a message to the fans? Obviously, losing to Notre Dame Catholic school rival 1-8 down in the season of the BC.

Speaker 54 I've heard from a lot of fans. I just really love it.

Speaker 57 Yeah, I'm really glad.

Speaker 57 You know, I'm glad you're down. I'm not down.
Nobody's down.

Speaker 15 We're fighting.

Speaker 57 We're competing.

Speaker 57 You know, it's the second year of this program Mike you always come in here with these down questions like you show up like once a month or something like that you come in here with these down questions I'm not down I don't know what year you graduated from BC but this is a program that we're building nobody here is down we're positive we're gonna show up and play our asses off against SMU you can you can go out there in your dark clouded world or whatever it is and do what you want to do we're not down the sun is up and we're fighting That's my message to the fans.

Speaker 57 What's up, Trevor? Thank you.

Speaker 3 I mean, you know that that can happen in any media environment where the coach will absolutely go after the guy with dismissive condescension who's only there once a month.

Speaker 3 The guy, Trevor's there every day.

Speaker 50 Well, Trevor, Trevor.

Speaker 3 Trevor, Trevor is not once a month. Trevor's not once every two weeks.

Speaker 12 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 12 Trevor's earned Bill O'Brien's love and respect.

Speaker 3 Here's the guy who's here all day long. Trevor shows up every day to watch shitty BC football.

Speaker 52 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 What do you think the look on Trevor's face was? Did he look at Mike

Speaker 12 Yes, yes, yes, that's right.

Speaker 3 Mike, you show up, downer Mike. You show up once a month.
You get out of your news van and

Speaker 3 instead of a microphone, you've got a brush.

Speaker 46 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 You're not here once. You're not here twice a day listening to shitty Bill O'Brien press conferences.

Speaker 23 100%.

Speaker 27 This is like the local news guy, where the local news shows up only when things are a disaster.

Speaker 12 At whatever program. Yeah, well, man.
This is, well, no, like, go over to heat. Manso's around.

Speaker 26 But if he gets some random third reporter from...

Speaker 19 Yeah, Jim Berry would be the perfect example, actually.

Speaker 45 Greg Cody.

Speaker 18 He's not leaving the studio. What's up? But Jim Berry's showing up.

Speaker 47 But, yep, what's up, Byra?

Speaker 19 What's up, Anthony Shank?

Speaker 42 What's up, Tim Reynolds?

Speaker 48 Smoby and like, Greg, Cody,

Speaker 22 you show up for opening night in the first playoff game. That's it.

Speaker 12 What's up, Byra?

Speaker 3 Look,

Speaker 3 I thank you for producing this little wonderful sound from Bill O'Brien that is absolutely a different language that the old ball coach has with who's showing up for my shitty shoot around and listening to what I have to say after that.

Speaker 3 I assure you, it's Trevor. Trevor's there every day listening to shitty Bill O'Brien press conference.
What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 Trevor, Bill O'Brien, later in life, Bill O'Brien will have Trevor's phone number and they will have a beer somewhere.

Speaker 12 4-3.

Speaker 52 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 15 Does Trevor leave an apple on the podium every morning before the press conference?

Speaker 12 He's a hero, Trevor.

Speaker 52 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 48 Bill O'Brien feels bad for Trevor. That's what it is.

Speaker 18 If you're here in the trenches with us, watching these shitty practices where I know you don't want to be here, we don't want you here. We're going through this song and dance of all these questions.

Speaker 26 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 52 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 He's like Bill Belichick at that cheerleading competition.

Speaker 16 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 27 What's up, Barry Jackson?

Speaker 30 Bill O'Brien.

Speaker 3 I don't want to do that yet.

Speaker 3 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 12 I want to stay on Bill O'Brien. What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 And Bill O'Brien is going to work every day, and this is what Bill O'Brien's saying.

Speaker 52 What's What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 12 No.

Speaker 3 I was standing next to Belichick.

Speaker 3 I was at the top of this mountain.

Speaker 13 Now I'm at BC football.

Speaker 3 Look how they're talking about Lane.

Speaker 26 He was a clown when I was a champion.

Speaker 3 But now look how they're talking about Lane. I'm trying to make the way back, and it's not the easy way.
It's not through that Sabe and rehab program. It's through the Catholics.

Speaker 24 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 It's the shitty Catholic school that'll never win anything.

Speaker 3 I was James Franklin.

Speaker 26 I was James Franklin once.

Speaker 52 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 Does Boston College have to kick up to the Vatican? Less so. Pennies.

Speaker 15 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 This poor Reaper's been waiting for 20 minutes.

Speaker 12 The Reaper got shorter.

Speaker 3 Ground to dust by the last 20 minutes of waiting for this show.

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Speaker 12 Put your mouth, piece in, if you want to talk. Sorry.

Speaker 12 I have the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 22 Dan has told me over and over again it's great.

Speaker 6 They're at the Tennessee Titans. I am

Speaker 27 minus their favored by 13 and a half points.

Speaker 22 On the road.

Speaker 58 You sure am Pac One wasn't the piano?

Speaker 12 Shoes and piano.

Speaker 22 Frog.

Speaker 52 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 The Seahawks are seven and three and the best team in the sport.

Speaker 12 Marmary don't.

Speaker 52 Oh, wow.

Speaker 12 Best time to have. Wow.

Speaker 3 Good time. Nobody's happy for you.
Your nipple dance is not embraced by anybody.

Speaker 17 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 3 Your shoulder shaking is not celebrated by anyone.

Speaker 52 What's up, Trevor?

Speaker 22 I'm out to run the

Speaker 12 Colts.

Speaker 34 The Colts are at the Chiefs.

Speaker 12 Darrell had Three and a half points. Waterloo game.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, help me with this because I wanted, Nick Wright, I wanted to make a bet on this game, but he's too shook.

Speaker 3 So, before the end of the show today, help me figure out what the Chiefs Colts bet needs to be so that you have some consequences on keeping that helmet.

Speaker 15 Well, first of all, I need to find out.

Speaker 12 Have you seen Eraser?

Speaker 12 What more? Eraser. Eraser.

Speaker 12 Eraser. Eraser.
Or Schwarzenegger. Eraser? Yeah.

Speaker 58 With Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 12 Eraser?

Speaker 26 I love how he saved the best for last.

Speaker 46 Have you you seen all the Schwarzenegger movies?

Speaker 16 How many percentage of Schwarzenegger?

Speaker 26 No, you said, of course, but have you seen a racer?

Speaker 58 You ever seen Escape Room?

Speaker 12 Escape plan, you frog. Right, escape plan.
With Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 12 Get out of here.

Speaker 52 I'm putting it back, by the way.

Speaker 12 Sucker like baby.

Speaker 15 Bring the Colts back.

Speaker 12 You're a sucker. What's up, Trevor? You're a sucker.

Speaker 26 You're putting a three and a half point favorite?

Speaker 52 No, they're underdogs.

Speaker 12 Lions.

Speaker 12 Lions.

Speaker 12 You got the Giants at home, guys. Oh, yeah, baby.

Speaker 50 The Colts are three and a half.

Speaker 12 They're three-point dogs at the Chiefs.

Speaker 28 Yeah, the Chiefs are favored at home.

Speaker 22 Three and a half by three and a half.

Speaker 34 You can't put back a second pull, you took off the Lions.

Speaker 3 Doom, a lot of people.

Speaker 12 The Giants, I think he had a lot of them. The Giants or the Lions.
Lions or Giants? Lions. Lions.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 26 Lions. Roy, what do you got?

Speaker 12 Jets.

Speaker 52 Hey, new quarterback.

Speaker 12 At Baltimore.

Speaker 12 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 14.5-point dog at Baltimore.

Speaker 12 The Rams.

Speaker 33 Oh, you got Baker.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they're at home, a six and a half point favorite.

Speaker 12 Big favorite.

Speaker 12 I mean,

Speaker 12 this buck schedule sucks. They're broken.
I hate it.

Speaker 3 Is that his inception?

Speaker 47 Of course.

Speaker 12 Great movie.

Speaker 22 I got the Falcons

Speaker 12 at New Orleans. That was cousins.

Speaker 12 Putting that back. Why is that in the four o'clock window?

Speaker 6 Wow, playing the Saints.

Speaker 52 You have to put yourself scared of the Saints.

Speaker 16 I got the worst helmet, the Titans.

Speaker 22 I'm a 13-point under the ball.

Speaker 12 I am having an awful year.

Speaker 6 You still owe two punishments.

Speaker 48 I've done a bunch of punishments. I still owe two.
And I have

Speaker 52 your record.

Speaker 3 Is that you seeing Remember Titans?

Speaker 12 Of course.

Speaker 14 Last play is so stupid.

Speaker 41 That's why I don't like that movie.

Speaker 15 I'll bet you like that play.

Speaker 12 This four o'clock window is gross.

Speaker 12 Why is Indianapolis KC one o'clock? I had the Bears.

Speaker 3 The Bears are seven and three. They are at home.
Two 2.5-point and a favorite against Aaron Rodgers with a broken wrist.

Speaker 3 Has you seen Bad News Bears?

Speaker 42 Yeah, I'm going to keep Bear Nears. That's a good key.

Speaker 58 Of course, I've seen Bad News Bears.

Speaker 24 You've seen a remake?

Speaker 12 You know about that, Kelly Lee? You've seen a whole new remake.

Speaker 41 Yeah, remake not good.

Speaker 3 You're just saying that. You ain't seen that.
I could tell.

Speaker 41 No, I saw it. It's not good.
What is it on the truck or the Tom McBurray? It's not good.

Speaker 12 Who did Dan get?

Speaker 12 He's golden home and a liar.

Speaker 3 I believe Zash is a liar and a fraud here. I believe he's hiding a smile behind his mouthpiece because he's been exposed this segment as a person who is not a movie expert.

Speaker 42 I'm all exposed.

Speaker 41 We're trying not to embarrass him.

Speaker 14 He's called you a fraud to your face.

Speaker 3 He doesn't respect your movie opinions.

Speaker 15 He has undressed you in front of everybody. Not in the slightest.

Speaker 3 You seen the Fulmonty?

Speaker 12 No.

Speaker 32 Neither have I.

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