Local Hour: The Peanut Gallery (feat. Tony Calatayud)

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Speaker 3 I'm not totally sure, Zez, as we begin today, if in 21 years of doing this, I have ever felt exactly the way that I do right now starting this show today.

Speaker 3 And it's going to be honestly hard to overcome the way that I'm actually physically feeling. No,

Speaker 3 it's not exciting for this reason. Do you guys make any distinctions, any distinctions at all between feeling embarrassed and feeling ashamed?

Speaker 3 Any distinctions between the two things? Yeah. So, shame is much worse, right? Feeling ashamed feels worse than embarrassed, even though embarrassing feels plenty bad, right?

Speaker 9 Like, embarrassing will go away a lot quicker than shame.

Speaker 3 I have felt embarrassed any number of times doing this show over 21 years. I've never started it feeling this kind of ashamed.

Speaker 9 Why ashamed?

Speaker 3 I uh I was uh just throwing peanut shells all over the floor of the parking garage,

Speaker 3 and I got caught.

Speaker 3 And I got caught by Mike Ryan, and I got caught by Mike Ryan, who called me out in front of the entirety of the group. And then Amin looks up and is like, I was wondering who was doing that.

Speaker 3 And I had no moves away from that. I was simply throwing peanut shells on the floor of the garage and expecting someone else to pick them up.

Speaker 10 There's a little stairwell thing like by the elevator. Sometimes you take the stairs up and I come up the stairs Sometimes and I'll see the shells there and I'm just like man Who are these people?

Speaker 10 I just in my mind It's like two or three kids probably who work at the hotel in their like early 20s They sit around they crack wise and they eat these peanuts It's a peanut gallery pretty much and then they just leave the shells every like come on guys every day and then Mike comes in here and he's like damn we got to talk about these peanuts and I'm like well the fact that they knew it was me first of all this is a hotel like it could have been anybody it's a parking garage

Speaker 14 It couldn't have been anybody.

Speaker 3 It's a parking garage. But the fact that both of them, well, the fact that Amin didn't initially know it was me, but the fact that Mike immediately knew it was me, this is the source of my shame.

Speaker 3 I don't want to be seen that clearly. That could have been any number of culprits.
This is Miami, and it's a luxury hotel.

Speaker 12 I mean, Amin, you thought it was some squirrels?

Speaker 9 Who could have been?

Speaker 6 Secret squirrel.

Speaker 3 I don't believe that everyone here would have assumed that was me.

Speaker 9 Oh, come on. Really? I mean, Amin didn't?

Speaker 10 Nah, like, if you hadn't said, if you said, someone here, Amin, eats peanuts, it's not the squirrels, it's not people working in the hotel, it's people here who are eating peanuts and shelling them.

Speaker 10 I don't, before I got to Dan, it would have been a while.

Speaker 9 This would have been a while.

Speaker 12 Dan, you get after those peanuts, Dan.

Speaker 9 Yes, you do, absolutely, dude.

Speaker 3 Let me explain to you the peanuts are tapping into. I'm not kidding you when I tell you that the peanuts are absolutely

Speaker 3 beyond them being delicious and great and Hampton Farms being a great sponsor. The peanuts bring a childhood memory to me that has nothing to do.

Speaker 9 Dan Bingo.

Speaker 13 It's a little early for Dan Bingo.

Speaker 9 Excuses.

Speaker 3 With the taste of the peanuts and everything to do with the freedom of...

Speaker 9 Whoa, wait, I can just throw these things on the floor in a ballpark?

Speaker 16 This is not a ballpark.

Speaker 8 The freedom of making trash and

Speaker 9 this is a shared garage.

Speaker 18 There isn't, I mean, you, you.

Speaker 9 My parents came from Cuba. Not Texas Roadhouse.

Speaker 14 This is not something.

Speaker 3 Why Sagaki Agaki saying that?

Speaker 10 I like the idea of Castro just being like, don't eat those peanuts.

Speaker 9 America. This is for America.

Speaker 3 I just treat every place like it's Texas Roadhouse.

Speaker 19 This is the Dan Labatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 3 Chris Cody just asked me a question. It's a good one, I think.
Is basketball a winter sport? Yes or no? Because I don't consider it one, even though they play during winter.

Speaker 3 I consider the winter sports to have ice around them, cold around them, and so I think by the calendar, it's a winter sport, but I don't think of basketball as a winter sport, so just put that on the poll.

Speaker 3 But as we get started today, I need people who may not know the entire history in this market in South Florida as we do something to help South Florida.

Speaker 3 That Zaslow and us and our show have been friends for 20 years, started a radio station in Miami that we were very proud of. And Miami means a lot to us.

Speaker 3 And Zaszlo, as a literal friend of the show, is obviously someone that I like and respect. But over the last 20 years, the way sports commentary has changed, there's everyone in the trough now.

Speaker 3 It is a democracy. Everyone's giving their opinions, and everyone has to have an opinion that stands out from the other opinions to climb out in this business.
And Zaz is a rising star.

Speaker 3 But I believe he's over the line when his analysis of last night's sporting event is to walk in and be like, Jimmy Butler's a dick and the Warriors are bullshit. And I'm like, okay,

Speaker 3 that's strong and I understand it, but that's probably not the takeaway from last night's game for me.

Speaker 3 I'm more interested in the fact that we are in 2025 in a place where the champs don't have to play if they don't feel like it. And that's bullshit for the paying customer.

Speaker 3 Like Steph Curry, we've got only so many more chances to see him in person.

Speaker 3 And while I embrace load management and taking care of your employees, and I can make all the arguments on behalf of both Pace and yeah, travel must be really hard.

Speaker 3 That's bullshit last night that the Warriors just shout for a month. Hey, we're going to take that day off in Miami.
And then it's Draymond Green out with an illness.

Speaker 3 Steph Curry, my ankle's sore, and he decided it was going to be sore four days ago and Jimmy Butler's not playing either and then leaving after the game without shaking anybody's hand, without six years of relationship.

Speaker 3 That bridge is like so totally torched that he doesn't have anything to say to anybody, but it's too far.

Speaker 3 It's a bridge too far for Zaslow to come in and just be Jimmy Butler's a dick and the Warriors are bullshit.

Speaker 12 I mean, you and I are on the same page. I was just a hell of a lot more efficient with it.
Like everything you just said is the Warriors are bullshit and Jimmy Butler's a dick.

Speaker 20 It's a cosine.

Speaker 3 The behavior of a dick.

Speaker 20 Yeah, we don't take personal attacks.

Speaker 18 We just call out behavior.

Speaker 14 But look, the economy is well chronicled.

Speaker 18 People literally circle that game on their calendars, try to make plans. And this is the plight of the NBA fan right now.

Speaker 21 You make plans, you spend the money, you want to see the superstars. Steph Curry is an icon to younger generations.

Speaker 18 And Dan is absolutely right. They come to Miami once a year.
We're running out of time to see this player.

Speaker 18 And Jimmy Butler's return on that court with Steph Curry is something that people would save money to see.

Speaker 18 And the NBA has a huge problem because the Warriors kind of totally punted on the notion of playing this game probably when the schedule came out and fans decided they were going to spend their money on that.

Speaker 12 It's a huge problem and no one seems to care to fix it. Like we all talk about the ways that you can fix it, but no one actually wants to do anything to fix it.

Speaker 12 I do wonder though, maybe Jeremy can answer this without me getting him in trouble.

Speaker 12 Do the Heat still charge, like, is there, and the Heat are not the only team that used to do this, do they still do the tears package based on, depending on what team you're playing, it's a little bit more expensive to get a bunch of people.

Speaker 23 I'm talking about sobbing or wailing.

Speaker 12 I'm talking about price tears. I have no idea.
Because they at least used to do that. And if they do, then the NBA is stealing money from fans.

Speaker 3 Let me do this because I would say there is no one around here who loves basketball more than Amin. He dedicated the entirety of his life to that as a profession.
He cares about movies a great deal.

Speaker 3 He cares about his family a great deal. But I think he cares about basketball the most.

Speaker 3 Every time we start ripping his sport, he gets pretty defensive about it in protection of it because he really loves it.

Speaker 3 I mean, you went, you come into town, at least in part, because you love the energy and buzz of, I want to go see Steve Kerr and the Champs play the heat in a building I respect with an organization I respect, and you get there last night and it's a G-League game.

Speaker 10 I kind of knew.

Speaker 9 I knew.

Speaker 10 Like they're on a six-game road trip, right?

Speaker 10 They've been talking, right?

Speaker 10 What Cleveland did wrong was their guys played one night and then two days later in the same city, they're like, everyone's out, but this guy can get on a plane and go to Louisville versus Kentucky, right?

Speaker 10 Meanwhile, the Warriors, what they did was, We're on a six-game road trip, and early on, they start talking about, ooh, so-and-so's under the weather. Ooh, he's dealing with an ankle.

Speaker 10 He's dealing with a bat. So they're setting up the alibi.

Speaker 10 And by the way, they don't announce the rosters. I went to Steve Krist's pregame press availability.
He was asked directly, have you guys released what the lineup is going to be tonight?

Speaker 10 He's like, no, and I'm not comfortable sharing that.

Speaker 3 Zaz broke that story.

Speaker 3 For those of you who do not know and we're not listening, and if you want to make money around here on the DraftKings network, Zaz basically gave you about six or seven points yesterday in the morning when he reported as a journalist that none of those guys are playing.

Speaker 3 And I saw that line fly, but it was long after Zaz had reported that because the Warriors were still protecting that.

Speaker 3 There were lines as if those guys were all going to play, and then none of them played. Draymond Green, illness.
That's not, what is that?

Speaker 10 That's another weather, Dan. No, no, no.

Speaker 12 Draymond Green out in parentheses, Steph Curry not playing.

Speaker 14 That's what it is.

Speaker 12 Like, if Steph Curry's not playing, Draymond's not going to play. That's what it was.
That's why he was out.

Speaker 3 Well, let's explore this for a second because I know it's been a topic of conversation for a while, but just so that everyone understands, because I know it's the last dying flaming Embers of this dynasty, but for 10 years, that traveling road show has been the most important thing in the league, not named LeBron.

Speaker 3 And over the last 10 years, that guy as a shooter has been the biggest road draw there is in that sport.

Speaker 3 And if you want to sell out your arena, the traveling circus champions of this important team that has dominated a decade, led by someone who shoots like no one you've ever seen, and you want to make sure your kids are there so they can see him play the last two times that team has been in Miami he has not played and yesterday they gave the game away and told you 10 days ago with all their comments that they were going to give the game away so I ask you Amin when everyone laments the problem

Speaker 3 the paying customer who expects to go see the giant rock band

Speaker 3 doesn't get a bunch of impersonators then afterward without feeling somewhat hurt and betrayed and hurting the relationship you have with that league when that happens because that's just simply a rip-off.

Speaker 3 What the Golden State Warriors did yesterday

Speaker 3 in Miami was ripping off the customer. Say it.

Speaker 9 It was bullshit. Say it.
Warriors are bullshit.

Speaker 3 I will not say the Warriors are bullshit. I will not say Jimmy Butler is a dick.

Speaker 3 I will say that the Warriors have exhibited the behavior of bullshit and that Jimmy Butler has exhibited the behavior of a dick.

Speaker 10 Six-game road trip.

Speaker 10 It was the last game of the road trip and it was coming off of a back-to-back against Orlando.

Speaker 10 There's no inherent advantage to them sacrificing their bodies for that night.

Speaker 12 Why wasn't this an issue back in the day then?

Speaker 12 They used to do four games in five days.

Speaker 10 There's a lot of, I mean, I don't, do you really want the TED Talks?

Speaker 3 I don't want to do that whole show again that everyone's been doing about fixing basketball for the last 18 months, but I do want to make it personal because it's right next door.

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Speaker 3 But, I mean, mean i want to get because as someone who cares about basketball you go across the street here this would normally be over the last 10 years of what you've felt down here in miami around basketball and you could be the mayor of miami basketball when you walk into that arena because people associate you with talking up this team since it traded for gorn dragic you go there yesterday and feel what in your heart about miami's playing golden state and this is nice norm powell and that's a nice fourth quarter against the golden state uniforms but that's not golden state so from a Golden State perspective, again, I get it.

Speaker 10 Like with that, eight of their 10 games in November, since November 1st, have been on the road, right? They're traveling. They're an undersized team.

Speaker 10 I was talking about this yesterday with some people. Like, look, this is a team that's built for April, May, and June, but you got to get to April.

Speaker 10 And the problem with that is they have a small team and they have an old team. They have the oldest team in the league.
So it's like, you got to choose your battles, man.

Speaker 10 And when you got a schedule like that the way it is, that's just the reality of the NBA.

Speaker 10 It behooves nobody for them to trot out their guys and then their guys get hurt for real and are out for extended amounts of time. And they're like, oh, why is everyone getting hurt?

Speaker 10 You got to make decisions along the way that make sense for your organization, even if it may be quote unquote selfish for the greater business good.

Speaker 10 From the standpoint of the Miami Heat, I think like

Speaker 10 it's concerning to me. Not concerning, because I don't think the expectations for this team are high.

Speaker 10 But the concern is, man, what's it going to take for you guys to take care of business against the teams that you should?

Speaker 10 Because ultimately, at the end of the season, we're going to be looking at whether you're five, six, or seven based on, did you blow that game against Cleveland on a Wednesday night when nobody played?

Speaker 10 Because what's his name? Tomlin, bust your ass, and nobody even never heard of that guy.

Speaker 10 Did you blow that game Wednesday night against Golden State because you had no answers for Quentin Post in the post?

Speaker 10 These are the things that separate good teams from teams that do this.

Speaker 3 Now, though, because this, what Zaz is saying is correct when he's saying, why wasn't any of this being talked about 15 years ago when teams went to the championship and weren't just protecting their players?

Speaker 3 Pat Riley ran all his men into the ground.

Speaker 3 He wasn't doing any of this.

Speaker 10 So, okay, so I think we had this conversation earlier this week, but...

Speaker 10 the nature of the injuries that we're talking about, these soft tissue injuries, groin strains, calf strains, hamsting strains, back strains, right?

Speaker 10 That has nothing to do with, with, oh my god, they were like physical and they were hitting gut. No, it's about mileage and it's about pace.
I told you guys this yesterday.

Speaker 10 10 years ago, forget about the 90s, 10 years ago, the fastest team in the league was 100.5 possessions a game and there was only one team doing that.

Speaker 10 10 years later, with that pace, you were in the bottom 10.

Speaker 3 I mean, what you're saying is all these guys are Ferraris now. They're not built to be 300,000

Speaker 15 mile cars.

Speaker 10 It's not even that.

Speaker 12 Except that don't they take better care of their bodies now than they've ever done in the history of man?

Speaker 20 I have a question, though, in terms of possible solutions.

Speaker 18 In Major League Baseball, something similar happened, and they just put pitchers on pitch counts. Why is the solution for these NBA teams to sit players out entirely

Speaker 18 rather than just get deeper and rotate more players in?

Speaker 12 This is what I'm saying. I mean, why couldn't those guys play the second half last night? Why couldn't Curry, Draymond Green, Jimmy Butler play in the second half last night?

Speaker 9 Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Or why do they have to shit out the whole game?

Speaker 12 Why can't? I'm being serious. Why can't they play just the second half of last night? And we all know the answer.
We all know the answer.

Speaker 12 No, we do. We know the answer.

Speaker 3 I know the answer, but it's different than the answer that you want.

Speaker 12 No, no, we know the answer, and we're on the same page here. It's because their averages would be lower.
That's right. That's right.
Their average takes a hit if they only play a second half.

Speaker 12 You're right. I'm glad we're on the same page, Dan, and that's why they won't do it.
It's because their stats will hurt.

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Speaker 9 down lebertard doesn't matter anywhere we could do it in buffalo or baltimore either you say you could do it where anywhere oh whoa no that's crazy that's crazy that's crazy he said he could do it anywhere that's crazy murder murder tell him

Speaker 9 i had no idea mean had that in his locker that might be his best that's crazy I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 19 This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Speaker 10 Also, the geography of basketball, right? Whereas, again, in the 90s, throw the ball to Patrick Ewing. I either have to hard double or I got to stay with my man.

Speaker 10 If I hard double, Patrick Goon kicks it back out. He's not kicking it back out to 23 feet, 9 inches.
He's kicking it back out to Charles Oakley, who's 15 feet away. That's an easy closeout.

Speaker 10 The amount of ground basketball players have to cover now is so much more. It's faster, it's further, and it's intense.

Speaker 10 And that's not even counting, again, the immense mileage that they put on their bodies prior to them even shaking the commissioner's hand.

Speaker 3 Mamin, it is super interesting the way that you make the nuanced argument against the outrage of the emotion of I pay, I want to see my stars play. The things that you're saying are accurate about

Speaker 3 everything in terms of wearing these guys down.

Speaker 3 But there's no solution to this problem if everyone keeps getting more athletic and all of that athleticism means more pace and all of that pace means everyone's as disposable as an NFL running back because we're going to run through these bodies faster than we ever did.

Speaker 3 And LeBron with a 23-year career, if we just keep spreading the game out, we're going to make that a 12-year career because there are only so many miles you can put on all that tissue.

Speaker 20 They're basketball players. They spend all their free time playing basketball.
I don't think they think it's disposable. I actually think it's the opposite.

Speaker 20 But too often, I want to learn from history here.

Speaker 18 Too often we put Amin in the position where he has to defend the merits of the game.

Speaker 20 This has gotten worse as the league has put a focus on trying to solve this problem.

Speaker 8 That's bad.

Speaker 18 It's bad enough that it's a problem to begin with, but it's even worse that the league is trying to impose sanctions on teams, levy fines, take away personal wars.

Speaker 12 65 game limits.

Speaker 18 Yeah, take away awards and actually hit the players' wallets if they decide to do this, and it's still not working, and it's getting worse.

Speaker 20 So what do you say about that?

Speaker 27 And what is an actual solution here?

Speaker 10 So I don't like the 65-game limit. I think it's ridiculous because

Speaker 10 the main reason is the voters have shown the ability to discern, hey, that guy didn't play enough games already.

Speaker 10 Nikola Yokic's first MVP, people are not going to remember this because he's so great now. But when he won his first MVP, it was kind of like,

Speaker 10 yeah, I mean, he's the only one who actually played, and Bi was hurt a lot and hardened missed some games. That's how he won that first MVP.

Speaker 10 It was a default decision, and there was no rule that had to force people to say, now you know, and Bi'de only played 51 games or whatever. People knew, the voters know.

Speaker 10 So I thought the rule, what it does, is actually counterproductive because what happens is now you've got guys who are like, shit, I gotta get back on the floor or else I'm not going to hit the minimums in order to qualify for these awards.

Speaker 10 And obviously, the money and the incentives that are tied to a lot of these awards makes the incentive for a guy to rush back hurt. And ultimately, what we want is players to play.

Speaker 10 We don't want healthy scratches, but I think we can all agree. We don't want a guy getting hurt because he's hobbled out there because

Speaker 10 I got to prove everybody actually wants to play.

Speaker 12 I believe, and there's no way, again, it's I believe there's no way to prove this, but I feel like now in today's NBA, if a guy is dealing with something and he's at 75%,

Speaker 12 he doesn't play. When back in the day, it's like, all right, I'm on 100%, but like, I could play.

Speaker 10 But I guess that's my thing. It's like we've conflated like people getting hurt with, like, oh, the guy just doesn't feel like playing.

Speaker 3 Yes, and this is where it is that I'd like to put in front of everybody the facts of the problem as Mike tries to advance them, okay?

Speaker 3 And I mean, tries to give you the context that makes you understand there's a fault line here in this league.

Speaker 3 Like, this is an enormous crack, like a fracture on what's happening between the customer, the emotion of the customer, the customer thinking the player doesn't care when these are the facts.

Speaker 3 Was D'Antonio your coach with the Suns?

Speaker 9 Yeah, he was one of those.

Speaker 3 All right, the seven seconds or less Suns would be last in pace today. By far.

Speaker 9 Last.

Speaker 9 They'd be last.

Speaker 3 And Haberstro is saying that NBA stars have already missed 200 games this season due to injury or illness. That's double what it was a year ago at this point.

Speaker 3 So in the opening month of the season, the star players used to miss one out of every nine or ten games. Now it's one of every three.

Speaker 3 That's a fracture in your product if you keep trying to correct it and it's just growing. Like if you, if the commissioner is throwing everything at this, they've already got their league money, okay?

Speaker 3 Their business is fine, but they've got the customer feeling like, what?

Speaker 15 You can't keep ripping me off this way.

Speaker 10 So there's a couple of things. Number one, I've said this for a while.
I think the NBA has a bigger PR problem than they do, have a Players Don't Play problem. I think

Speaker 10 they failed to control narratives and they failed to

Speaker 10 hold their broadcast partners accountable. Look, I love Chuck and Shaq and all those guys, but every time they got up on Twitter.

Speaker 9 Oh, then they're fan in the flames.

Speaker 10 They're like, oh my God, these guys hate don't play and they don't care, whatever. Every time Perk and Stephen A.
Smith do that stuff, all they were doing were on company airwaves, right?

Speaker 10 It's one thing if some blows.

Speaker 12 You don't want them to be honest, then, is what you're saying.

Speaker 10 Do you think the NFL coverage guys are honest? Ask them about CTE. You think they're honest? They don't do that.
They don't mess up the product.

Speaker 10 Now, it's one thing if you're like, if Gilbert Arenas does it, man, Gilbert is an independent product.

Speaker 10 He takes no money from the league. He has no business sense or not business sense, but business obligation to it.
But when you are a broadcast partner, bro, David Cern wouldn't let that shit happen.

Speaker 10 Like, you got to keep these people in line.

Speaker 9 He also wouldn't let

Speaker 14 players just sit out.

Speaker 10 So, the second part of this, Dan, is: do you know what water poisoning is? Have you ever heard of water poisoning? No, right? Water poisoning is this thing happening.

Speaker 10 There is such a thing as drinking too much water. And water poisoning,

Speaker 10 the symptoms of water poisoning, do you guys know what the symptoms of water poisoning are?

Speaker 9 I've heard of it, but I don't know what symptoms are.

Speaker 14 So much water. The symptoms of water poisoning are

Speaker 10 almost exactly identical to dehydration. So this happens to a lot of marathon runners.
They're like, I got to hydrate. I got to hydrate.
I got to hydrate.

Speaker 10 So they drink and they drink and they drink and they actually drink so much they get water poisoning, but they feel like, oh my God, I'm dehydrated. I feel dizzy.
I feel it. So then they drink more.

Speaker 10 And I think sometimes some of these rules that people are trying to do, like, we're going to do this to get them to play, you're actually exacerbating the problem rather than solving it.

Speaker 3 The problem doesn't have any kind of fix the way that we're framing it. And I will again tell you, as part of what we're doing all day today,

Speaker 3 it may feel to you like, because of the economy of things and inflation and the world run amok,

Speaker 3 that there is no help out there for you financially and there is no one who cares. That is not the case today in Miami.

Speaker 3 It is Give Miami Day, and Tony is out at Lone Depot Park, as are, well, I'm not going to say a lot of people based on that shot, but there are people there gathering in the name of giving.

Speaker 3 Tony, what can you tell us is going out going on out there?

Speaker 26 Hey, Dano, great to hear from you. Today is Give Miami Day, Dan.
Yes,

Speaker 26 as I'm, you know, standing here in front of the second base, where would second base would be right there? The event hasn't started yet, so people are still filtering in.

Speaker 26 In about an hour, this place is going to be absolutely jam-packed. There's like a line down Bobby Maduro way, like of like 6,000 people.

Speaker 26 So there's going to be a ton of people here later on when we check in. But Give Miami super cool, Dan.
It's an opportunity for Miami to love itself, to give to over 1,400 nonprofits.

Speaker 26 There's going to be millions and millions and millions and tens and maybe 20s and 50s of million dollars being raised for nonprofits all across the city doing all sorts of important work.

Speaker 26 Whatever you can think of a non-profit, they probably have one and you could donate to it.

Speaker 3 Not 50s yet.

Speaker 9 They're going to be hanging out.

Speaker 3 Not yet 50s. Last year, nearly 40 million

Speaker 3 from over 50,000 donors, and we're looking to top that today. GiveMiamiDay.org is where you go.
I know our listeners are always very strong here. Sorry to interrupt you.
I just did.

Speaker 3 I want your facts right. Nobody's been giving 50s of millions of dollars.

Speaker 26 Well, hopefully this year we break the 50 mark is what I was forecasting there, Dan.

Speaker 26 Like an analyst, you know, I'm forecasting what's going on.

Speaker 23 For people just listening, Tony is standing on the field where I used to think Cecil Fielder was. Remember I said I admitted before that I used to think Cecil Fielder was a position.

Speaker 23 And Tony is standing where I thought the Cecil Fielder would put. Yes, that is a floating area, shallow center.
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 Tony, I know I feel this every single time I'm on an NBA court. It happens to me every time where I'm like, holy shit, this is a lot bigger than it looks on television.

Speaker 3 Where you're presently standing, you are impressed by the size of the infield, are you not?

Speaker 26 um yeah the infield's definitely big when you get down to like the field level what what looks bigger is obviously like everything in the background when you look at the field you're like okay third base is 90 feet away i see it there

Speaker 11 but i'm kind of like in the hole almost here between second and it's it's it's successful fielder it's big i'm not gonna lie to you it's big

Speaker 9 uh what else what else do we need right now like this is get go ahead i'm sorry my bad

Speaker 26 no things are happening here dano my bad my bad so i'm thinking of sitting here at second base, getting ready to.

Speaker 11 Can you guys see me? I'm going to go to the next store.

Speaker 9 I can see you taking a lead poorly.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes. I can see you're twerking there.
Yeah, you're taking a lead.

Speaker 3 It's good work.

Speaker 9 Baseball fields.

Speaker 23 Baseball teams take their field so serious. Like, why can't, like, there's not a game till April there.
We can't step on the dirt.

Speaker 12 So, what, you think they should allow, like, weeds to grow?

Speaker 9 It's not having it roped off seems to be a good thing. You got to look major league.

Speaker 3 Your field has to look year-round like it's manicured in major league.

Speaker 9 Wait till April.

Speaker 3 You can't have Browning in the grass.

Speaker 26 oh i'd say water it but chris is a hundred percent right

Speaker 3 guys

Speaker 14 we didn't frame tony's appearance

Speaker 3 with enough noise and uh celebration

Speaker 3 and uh and color here givemiami day.org yes givemiami day.org uh tony we will check in with you later uh for your top five thank you uh

Speaker 3 I will say that the Perez Family Foundation, in honor of my brother, is giving $10,000 to an assortment of Miami charities, including NABJ South Florida, Comic Kids Inc., Young Art Aid, a number of different art-related charities here in South Florida.

Speaker 3 The website is givemiami day.org.

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Speaker 13 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 13 That's not my favorite rejoin.

Speaker 11 Context needs to be applied.

Speaker 4 Going for a joke.

Speaker 8 I thought that context was applied.

Speaker 21 We'd like to rip that out of context. I was going for a thing.

Speaker 9 And

Speaker 9 I have a family?

Speaker 3 You're going to pretend here that you don't love Matthew Kachuck more than you love anybody you've ever loved?

Speaker 21 I don't love Matthew Kachuck more than my daughter.

Speaker 13 Stugats.

Speaker 9 Now it's pretty damn close.

Speaker 19 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 12 I know you're brushing me aside with the second half thing, but why? Like, why can Leonel Messi enter an intermi game and play in the second half and NBA players can't do that?

Speaker 3 I am mocking you for the take on just have them play second half because you know too much about sports and the way these athletes train and take care of their bodies to treat them as a gas bag who just thinks you can get out there three minutes before tip off with a bag of chips and you don't have to prepare your body for two hours before the game in order to play the entirety of the game or half of the game.

Speaker 3 The ask or the request of whatever is rest and healing on that day. day gets ruined if you have to test your body for 20 minutes or 40 minutes.
It's not a rest day. You're running through the body.

Speaker 18 The impact is different.

Speaker 22 And the league has shown, hey, if we make shots at the end of halves and quarters not count, we've incentivized these players to take them and the players are taking it.

Speaker 9 You've noticed everybody loves chucking the ball now at the end of the quarter.

Speaker 20 So get rid of points per game as a metric and make it points per 48.

Speaker 14 This is a new league universal standard.

Speaker 18 We are doing things to combat this issue, which is grave. It is a huge problem.
We've tried everything. It's not working.
So we are going to change the metrics entirely.

Speaker 18 Points per game is a thing of the past.

Speaker 10 See, you're providing a solution to a problem that Zaz has decided that's the problem. The problem is they're averages.
That's not the problem. Dan actually told you what it was.

Speaker 10 It's like, if you play half a game that's still you played.

Speaker 10 right like the act of getting ready to play an nba game i went there last night i'm watching the anthony melton warm up and steph curry comes out and everyone loses their mind because everyone's like, oh, we're going to see the step dude, the dribble thing, and then the thing when he shoots from the tunnel.

Speaker 10 And he didn't. He just like shook hands and kissed babies and took photos of fans and stuff like that.
And then he went back inside because that's the definition of rest.

Speaker 10 If he has to go out there and break a sweat and do all that stuff and then,

Speaker 10 you know, take it a step further and play a half of basketball, whether it's the first half or second half, you've completely ruined what was supposed to be a rest and recovery day for someone who's alien.

Speaker 18 But I mean, you've been around these players. Like the only time they are not playing the game is when the games are playing and they decide to rest then.

Speaker 18 They spend all their time perfecting their craft by playing.

Speaker 16 It's not the, it's not football. It's not hockey.

Speaker 10 It's, but you're, again, you're saying it's not football, it's not hockey because you're thinking about, where are you guys so good?

Speaker 9 Concussions are not like, again, look at all the major injuries.

Speaker 10 Read that Habits show list, the number Giannis and Wembinyama and people that you guys all can recognize. These are guys that like play.

Speaker 10 These are all injuries that are non-contact injuries. These are all soft tissue injuries.

Speaker 3 This part is really interesting when the business

Speaker 3 and the most valuable assets are being stressed

Speaker 3 to the point of breaking. Stressed.

Speaker 3 And when I say stressed by the broadcasters yelling about this, by the pressures to play, by the economic pressures of their life position, and by the disrespect even Zaslow, 20 years in this market, shows when there's the feel or assumption that these guys eight hours a day aren't finely tuning their bodies trying to make sure that none of them break like that's what they're doing for eight hours every day twice a day in the weight room drills meant to be non-contact they don't go full intensity in practice but everything around the practice they never break no but everything around the practice is meant to keep these machines from not breaking it's not even during the season anymore that much about how much better can we make you.

Speaker 3 That's training camp and an assortment of other things. By the time the season arrives is how do we get our most valuable pieces to not break in the post season?

Speaker 9 Then why are they breaking more? I don't know.

Speaker 3 Amina's explaining to you, wow, we're putting a stress on the bodies here. Guard more, guard farther, go faster, and the bodies are breaking.
Like, that sounds like a pretty good explanation.

Speaker 3 Nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear it because they're like, what do do you mean? Charles Oakley ran up and down.
It's like, not like that.

Speaker 3 Not being asked to take threes and not running twice as much.

Speaker 12 Why is it only an NBA player thing? Like, why doesn't the hockey player need a night off?

Speaker 10 Has hockey changed in terms of, I don't know, I'm not.

Speaker 9 It's got to be more physical. It has to be.

Speaker 10 You keep saying physical.

Speaker 10 And that's the problem where this conversation really is not going to advance because you guys keep thinking about like, someone hit me. And that's not what's happening.

Speaker 20 Okay, so compare it to soccer, as Zaz did.

Speaker 21 Sports are similar in terms of strain that it puts on your body.

Speaker 12 Messi's old, but instead of not playing, he'll go out there in the second half so the road crowd can be played.

Speaker 9 Messi,

Speaker 18 I know you checked out on Inner Miami, but there was a big controversy in that league with Messi playing international duty, but not playing for his club.

Speaker 9 He missed games.

Speaker 5 He missed games, and for Messi in particular, that is a huge thing because he's bigger than the sport of MLS.

Speaker 12 But there are plenty of games where the soccer player checks in for just the second half because they don't want him playing the entire game because of load.

Speaker 10 So let me try to answer Zaz's question. Zaz,

Speaker 10 has the long ball and particularly stopping the long ball increased in soccer?

Speaker 10 Like in certain style of play?

Speaker 22 Yeah, I mean they're playing from the back a lot more.

Speaker 10 But I'm just talking about like, hey, we've got to defend up more.

Speaker 18 I think, no, in terms of cardio, people are high pressing. You mean the high press?

Speaker 24 Yes.

Speaker 10 Yes, because people are playing out at the back more because the long goal kick, uh the analytics said that that's a dumb play why give up possession play out the back so you have uh what the germans call the gagan press where they go up and it's more cardio for the the forwards they have to be more defensive-minded in the midfield but it's still straightaway running like it's not like again the the right dimensions of a basketball court you're all where i'm standing like one foot in the paint And then my man is over here.

Speaker 10 I've got to run to the top. And then my guy that I helped over here, he's got to sprint out

Speaker 10 and close and close. And then stop short because you can't just keep running through them.

Speaker 13 It's all relative.

Speaker 14 The playing surface is bigger.

Speaker 20 There's 11 players. So you shrink it down to five with a smaller corner.

Speaker 13 We're in the weeds.

Speaker 9 No, well,

Speaker 9 this is where everyone wants to be, or we're just going to say ignorant things. Okay.
Like, which do we want?

Speaker 10 Do I have the ignorant show? I can do the ignorant show.

Speaker 14 It's a taco players are soft.

Speaker 9 They flop all the time. Like, we can do that.
I'm sorry, we put them in a corner. I didn't want to put you in the corner.
I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 10 I'm trying to balance. Are we trying to have like a smart conversation? Are we trying to do show? I'll do show.

Speaker 20 So how would you get players to play more? Like, give me like just two solutions.

Speaker 18 How do we get the stars to play more?

Speaker 10 Well, first of all, we got the, again, you're saying the problem is they need to play more.

Speaker 9 I said, my problem is, how do we get them not to get hurt? Okay, okay, so I've got to get a little bit more.

Speaker 14 More consistently. The stars to play more consistently, not more.

Speaker 18 Do you make it fewer games?

Speaker 18 How do we avoid families saving money to spy on tickets and not be able to see the stars that they're trying.

Speaker 3 Here is the problem, as Chris Cody is saying, we're in the weeds on this is catastrophic for this business because what Amin is shouting here at everybody.

Speaker 3 You guys want to just complain about the problem, or do you want to hear what the problem is? The problem is 7'7 is not meant to play that way, that's pain. Bang.

Speaker 3 Those feet, those knees, those ankles, those are big things. Rudy Golbert's body and feet are going to be messed up.
You can't make him run around that much.

Speaker 3 You've got a structural problem at the core of your business because you're stretching the athlete physically, mentally, emotionally through travel beyond the extremes of the human body's limits.

Speaker 3 Like you're, you're breaking your player, you're breaking your products by what you're asking them to do. And the answer is play fewer games.
And the answer is from the league, bleep you.

Speaker 3 We need the TV money.

Speaker 10 We need all the money. We need the gate.

Speaker 10 And by the way, the money goes across everybody. It's not just the league saying it.
Players, if they went to the players, okay, so I got all 30 owners. They've agreed to take less.

Speaker 10 We're going to give money back to NBC, ESPN, all these guys because we're going to go down to a 72-game season. We're going to get rid of back-to-backs and all that.

Speaker 10 But also, you guys need to take a pay cut as well.

Speaker 9 Players are going to be like, bleep you too.

Speaker 10 Or the coaches. Bleep you, everyone who is eating at the talk to use Dan's turn.

Speaker 24 So the only people who get screwed are the fans.

Speaker 12 That's it.

Speaker 3 That's correct. And it's going to keep happening with streaming dollars and everything else.
Yes, get used to, and more people are going to be charging you. Jeremy, give me some hard data here.

Speaker 3 Because what Amin is doing.

Speaker 22 Don't forget to circle back on Amin Solutions, please, because

Speaker 21 it was bleep you. There are no solutions.

Speaker 23 Data better be hard. The average speed of the top 10 players per game in 2013 and 14, it was between 4.67 and 4.8 miles per hour.

Speaker 23 But now this season, that top 10 has moved up to 4.99 and 5.6 miles per hour. So the top player in 2013, 14 wouldn't even be in the top 25 in sprint speed this year.

Speaker 23 If you look at it, players are running about 9% more distance per minute on the court than they did a decade ago.

Speaker 23 Tyrese Maxie is running just under three miles per game when he's playing on the floor. And Vijay Edgecombe of the Sixers is just underneath him.
So they're like running those guys into the ground.

Speaker 10 And to put that in perspective, again, Jeremy's comparing numbers from 10 years ago.

Speaker 3 You know what 10 years ago was?

Speaker 10 Steph Curry hitting the half court trial against Oklahoma City. Oh, the Cavs come back from a 3-1 deficit to win the the final.
Like, that's not like, oh, Michael Jordan was playing against Plumbers.

Speaker 10 That's guys that are playing in the league right now were playing 10 years ago.

Speaker 10 Like, it's changing, guys. You guys are not accepting that things are changing.
The style of play is changing. And the demands on the player bodies are changing.

Speaker 10 And as a result, we're getting more injuries. And so what teams are trying to do is like, how do I make sure I don't kill my best player?

Speaker 10 Because as sad as everyone is that Steph Curry didn't play last night, how much sadder would they be when they say Steph Curry's not going to play the rest of the goddamn year?

Speaker 3 They ran Tibbs out of the sport, man, because you got to keep up with how the sport changes and it's all changing. So to Mike's question, because I don't know, how do you save

Speaker 3 poverty? How do you save helplessness? How do you save a league where they've got a structural problem that simply can't be fixed?

Speaker 3 There's not a solution to if you're going to keep being greedy, if you're you're going to keep needing the same amount of money, and if you're going to keep competing in a way that's going to keep stretching everybody's limits,

Speaker 3 Chet Holmgren's going to break down, even though he's the young one, and OKC doesn't have this problem.

Speaker 3 But they're taking those fourth quarters off to Zaz's point because they're getting up by 30 points.

Speaker 3 They're going to take over a different part of the league healthy because they're younger and they don't have the mileage on their bodies that the Golden State Warriors have when they're coming to Miami and they're like, we need rest.

Speaker 3 We need to get some sunshine.

Speaker 12 I totally hear everything you're saying. I'm still Team Warriors of bullshit.
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