Hour 2: Happy Thanksgiling Pt. 4! (feat. Nick Wright)

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Speaker 17 This is the Don Labatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 18 Gonna get to Nick right here in a second, and also I need to get to Billy because I don't know what his thoughts are on the coach's poll, but I've been told he's got a coach.

Speaker 8 Well, Kirk's taking stray shots at me for some reason about the coach's poll. I don't know what your deal is.
Pooh poohing. I guess you're jealous that FAU's not in there.

Speaker 8 Couldn't sniff the coach's poll. Wow.

Speaker 19 That's right.

Speaker 18 I went there.

Speaker 6 Do the coaches have to admit who they voted for?

Speaker 20 Is that transparent?

Speaker 8 I actually have a theory on who it was. I think it was James Franklin because Penn State plays FIU this weekend.

Speaker 21 That's awesome.

Speaker 8 So I think that if you're James Franklin and you put your opponent in the coach's poll,

Speaker 8 then you're like, look, this team was in the coach's poll outside looking in. Yeah, it's a working theory of mine.
I haven't proved it yet. I'll talk to Pablo in eight months.

Speaker 8 We'll figure out if that's true or not.

Speaker 18 Oh, Nick Wright has a bit of a nemesis issue with Pablo. Before we get to that in a second, bad day to have a nemesis issue with Pablo, incidentally.
We'll see what Nick has for Pablo in a second.

Speaker 18 But first, we've got a new partnership here with nuttiest fan. What are we doing here?

Speaker 18 I've had some of these hot peanuts. They're delicious.

Speaker 23 Oh, the Hampton Farms peanuts are

Speaker 7 the best.

Speaker 23 We are doing nuttiest fan dan.

Speaker 12 Left you speechless.

Speaker 20 I mean, it is.

Speaker 9 I mean, I was, because he said the hot.

Speaker 23 I haven't had the hot. I've had the spicy dill pickle and just the classic.
So I couldn't speak on the hot yet, but they're all fantastic.

Speaker 23 And it's the nuttiest fan, Dan, brought to you by Hampton Farms. Get nutty with Hampton Farms, the official snack nut of the tailgate.

Speaker 23 And be sure to keep an eye out for Lucy Rodin at Iowa State if you think your team has a nuttiest fan. So, here's what we're doing, Dan.

Speaker 23 I'm going to send you, I'm going to show you two college football fans, and you're going to tell me who's nuttier.

Speaker 23 And then you can go to our Instagram, the fans can vote on this, and we will reveal later in the week who the nuttiest fan is.

Speaker 23 The first one, we talked about him a little yesterday, it's the Alabama guy.

Speaker 9 This guy just throwing a bird in the middle.

Speaker 23 He saw the camera was on him, he dropped a deadpan bird. All right, so that's our first option.
Middle fan.

Speaker 8 That's salted peanuts right there.

Speaker 9 That is salted peanuts.

Speaker 16 That's good camera awareness.

Speaker 7 That is.

Speaker 25 And some of those dill nuts.

Speaker 23 And competing with this Alabama fan is two UM fans who had an interesting choice of jersey.

Speaker 23 It's a husband with on the back of his UM jersey, it says, I blank in peace.

Speaker 23 And then his wife, I assume it's his wife, sitting next to him.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you don't know that.

Speaker 21 Her jersey just says peace.

Speaker 8 That's a spicy dill pickle peanut if I've ever heard.

Speaker 21 She's the peace.

Speaker 23 You get it.

Speaker 17 So these are our two.

Speaker 18 Chris, I can't tell you how poor a spokesman we have

Speaker 18 when you're doing the spokesmaning.

Speaker 8 Last time he got a sheet steal out of this, so who knows what he can get out of this?

Speaker 23 Well, I actually read, the read was fine.

Speaker 8 It was just the setup could have been better.

Speaker 22 It was diving the pictures.

Speaker 18 It was the you that was not fine.

Speaker 23 So who's the nuttiest fan? Voted our Instagram.

Speaker 27 I'm voting for the UM fan.

Speaker 18 Okay, excellent work by you, professional, as always. Let's get to a real professional, Nick Wright.
He has issues and has had issues with Pablo Torre. We haven't.

Speaker 28 He's just always doing this, Dan.

Speaker 29 He's just fanning the flames.

Speaker 30 Can I say something about your new sponsor?

Speaker 27 It's positive, it's not negative.

Speaker 32 I go to baseball games, and these days, you know what happens?

Speaker 37 You buy a bag of peanuts, and they're unsalt, like they're plain.

Speaker 11 Like, because the whole idea of the peanut is you put it in your mouth, you crack the shell, you spit the shell out, but it's a lot of flavor is in theory.

Speaker 39 Back when we were a proper country, that's what it was.

Speaker 41 Go to a Yankee game up here. I don't know.

Speaker 3 Steinbrenners are saving money on salt.

Speaker 32 It's just a tasteless shell.

Speaker 44 So I don't know the name of your sponsor, and I don't have any points on the package, but that sounds like a wonderful product that I will now try because I like

Speaker 45 the dill pickle, spicy.

Speaker 47 It all sounds good.

Speaker 36 Now you want to talk about Pablo Torrey's tweets?

Speaker 20 I don't care.

Speaker 26 Not yet.

Speaker 48 I still want to talk about peanuts. Nick, I have a question for you.
So if somebody... who eats the shell of the peanut like just the whole thing like if it was just one shot insane or not insane.

Speaker 48 I have a buddy that eats it that way.

Speaker 18 He's saying the whole shell, isn't he? I've done that. Put it on the poll levitator show.
Do you eat the whole shell when you're no?

Speaker 20 So I don't, you can't do that.

Speaker 36 I don't.

Speaker 34 So I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 36 Tony. Tony.

Speaker 34 But no, I know Tony.

Speaker 50 I know his name.

Speaker 51 But that's not what I do.

Speaker 44 But you put the peanut again, I'm risking getting memed here, but that's okay.

Speaker 34 You put the whole peanut in your mouth.

Speaker 10 You crack it open with your molars.

Speaker 52 You then, you know, if depending on how dexterious your mouth is, you can then, you know, bifurcate the actual peanut and the shell.

Speaker 9 You spit out the shell.

Speaker 7 Like a sunflower seed.

Speaker 13 Like a sunflower seed.

Speaker 39 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 36 Part of that is the delicious coating of the shell,

Speaker 56 which in today's days are gone.

Speaker 37 Now, Tony's saying his buddy just goes one-shotter, but I listen, I know some people that eat the apple core.

Speaker 10 Like, I almost feel like it is either a sign of lack of, like, it feels very caveman-ish, like, which is not a negative.

Speaker 57 Yeah, it just feels like, you know what?

Speaker 51 If we, you know, if things ever really go south and we're all on our own, that guy probably has a slightly greater chance of survival.

Speaker 47 Like, he's, his, he hasn't evolved to, you know, contemporary luxury, which is probably positive.

Speaker 8 Nick, when you crack a peanut, do you, like, peel off the skin on it? Because I've read that it's actually beneficial to you health-wise if you eat the skin.

Speaker 37 Yeah, no, you got to eat the, yeah.

Speaker 50 I mean, we're not, this isn't, it's not a

Speaker 12 pomegranate.

Speaker 35 Like, we're at a baseball game drinking beers. Like, it's not, we're not trying to be dainty.

Speaker 53 Speaking, like, um, speaking of dainty, put this on the poll.

Speaker 34 Has Pablo Torrey eaten one single peanut in the last 30 years? I'll say no.

Speaker 61 Why? What are you, what are you doing there?

Speaker 20 What are you implanting?

Speaker 19 It's just, it's just, come on.

Speaker 60 Just feel like.

Speaker 21 I agree with him, though. Yeah.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I mean, come on.

Speaker 5 It just, if we're like Tony's friend who eats the entire peanut with shell, I have a visual image of him and I feel like I know that guy a bit and I feel like that guy's not hanging out with Pablo.

Speaker 26 That's all he's definitely not.

Speaker 55 Yeah, am I right?

Speaker 62 All I know is he eats the whole peanut with a shell.

Speaker 28 That's all I know.

Speaker 19 And so, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 25 We were at a baseball game together and we're just eating and he's like three people down.

Speaker 48 So we start looking and then all of a sudden the entire bag is gone, but we don't see peanut shells anywhere. And we're like, dude, what did you do with all the peanut shells?

Speaker 21 He's like, that's how I eat that.

Speaker 12 That's a vomit.

Speaker 8 oh come on nick you remember a couple years ago when pistachios had a moment that you just saw a bunch of commercials for pistachios and it was just like this green nut and you're like what is this company it's like

Speaker 67 it's just pistachios it's just the farmers yeah yeah it's it's it's like when we were growing up the milk lobby was like we got to put a lot of money into endorsements.

Speaker 43 And evidently, again, for the fifth time in this one complimentary to bring up Pablo, I didn't know there was a tree lobby.

Speaker 34 I didn't know they had marketing budgets.

Speaker 60 I didn't know any of this, but I do now.

Speaker 8 Well, Pistachio seems like a Pablo type of nut.

Speaker 8 Not a classic nut, but he has like the higher end nuts.

Speaker 18 No, Macadamia nut would be the way that Pablo goes.

Speaker 18 No messiness.

Speaker 62 Dan, that's why you're the GOAT.

Speaker 39 Correct.

Speaker 38 You just nailed it.

Speaker 62 That is absolutely correct.

Speaker 41 Macadamia Nut is

Speaker 41 if there is a higher draft pick of the exact idea that I'm trying clumsily to convey, I can't think of it.

Speaker 37 Macadamia nut is correct.

Speaker 41 And probably if he were on here, he'd be like, did you know that's actually not a nut?

Speaker 50 Be like, shut up, man.

Speaker 12 It's a lagoon. It's a lagoon.

Speaker 22 It's a lagoon.

Speaker 12 No, like, really?

Speaker 63 Sorry.

Speaker 25 I just tried it, Tony's Friends Way and the way that Dan says he has occasionally.

Speaker 12 Occasionally.

Speaker 26 Like a circus elephant?

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 12 I got to say, for like a one-off, not terrible.

Speaker 7 I like it.

Speaker 18 I like changing the texture of it.

Speaker 9 Let me take it for a walk.

Speaker 18 It's not gross.

Speaker 18 If you eat 20 of them and you break it up with the entire salty flavor of the shell as well, with the right chosen shells, that's not a terrible decision.

Speaker 25 It's not.

Speaker 26 At the very least, you have to tongue the shell because that's where the salt is.

Speaker 22 Hey, yo. You tongue the shell.

Speaker 47 Oh, you got a spicy dill.

Speaker 36 You brought us Greg Cody. You brought us full circle.

Speaker 40 This is what I'm saying. If you ever come to New York City during baseball season, I'll take you to a Yankee game, buy you a bag of peanuts.

Speaker 9 That's gross, Chris.

Speaker 52 And what what you'll notice is

Speaker 38 there's no salt on the shell, which is a bummer.

Speaker 6 It's totally unheard of.

Speaker 20 That's crazy. Yes, not terrible.

Speaker 22 That's absurd.

Speaker 26 It's not the geeky.

Speaker 25 That's how good these Hampton Farms peanuts are.

Speaker 22 They're

Speaker 22 a shell and all.

Speaker 70 I feel like this is the greatest endorsement ever.

Speaker 38 We're just doing 10 minutes on this product, and I don't even have any. You should mail me some at least.

Speaker 8 Macadamia nuts are coming back as a result for the most opulent nut that is available. However, pine nuts are

Speaker 8 pine nuts are listed as more expensive than macadamia where pine nuts range from about $22.03 to $51.61 per pound.

Speaker 12 No way. Pine nuts.

Speaker 18 Macadamia nuts are the most expensive nuts.

Speaker 4 Hold up.

Speaker 41 Can I ask you a question, Dan?

Speaker 38 Because even though I've sadly

Speaker 38 never in person met your father and he's, you know, an

Speaker 29 older Cuban engineer and my dad's an older Italian fireman, I feel like they're similar.

Speaker 67 Did you growing up in a room of your house have,

Speaker 4 like at not necessarily at all times, but certainly around the holidays, just a bowl of like walnuts and the like the

Speaker 13 heart, the crack

Speaker 44 and then the like lobster cracker thing just sitting there that occasionally, yes, that occasionally your father might just to remind you, you know, if push comes to shove, who's in charge, break the walnut in his hand

Speaker 37 them to show you he could nobody ate them, but they were always out They were available and it felt like it was an intimidation thing at least where in my and my dad's one of the greatest men I've ever known, but it feels I I bet I bet it was similar for you growing up.

Speaker 18 Yo, Greg's choking Greg, can we get you some water? He's having some trouble with these.

Speaker 24 No, these are

Speaker 26 eating the hot ones.

Speaker 74 Best nut I've ever had.

Speaker 20 Wow.

Speaker 7 These nuts.

Speaker 26 They're so good.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 8 Has anyone ever practically used a nutcracker? They're simply decorative, right? Like, no one actually goes and like, oh, I need a nuts.

Speaker 2 The nuts he's talking about. You need them.

Speaker 22 Yeah, but you're like, my nutcracker is no longer working.

Speaker 18 Unless your dad's a firefighter who breaks them with his bare hands to intimidate people.

Speaker 47 With his hand, yeah, just to let people know who's boss.

Speaker 18 That's right. We didn't have much money, so the greatest extravagance that we had in our childhood was my father taking us to Sears of all places to go to the place where they had the hot nuts.

Speaker 18 And he would go grab a few of them and he was pretty famous for just stealing stuff and walking around the grocery store eating it without paying for it.

Speaker 24 Yeah. And

Speaker 18 daring someone to say something to him about it.

Speaker 75 My dad did the same thing.

Speaker 8 Yeah, they're just samples.

Speaker 6 I see people doing that all the time with grapes as well as nuts.

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Speaker 18 Nick, I want to talk to you about an assortment of football things, but we have a Tyreek Hill problem in Miami.

Speaker 18 You know him pretty well and followed him plenty when he was in Kansas City, where the Chiefs were smart enough to not allow him to talk in public very often in front of microphones.

Speaker 18 What can you tell me about what it is you're seeing from Tyreek Hill? Who

Speaker 18 last

Speaker 18 year in Kansas City, he was saying we're going to win seven or eight championships in a row.

Speaker 18 He doesn't know how to lose and now he's not a captain for the Dolphins and everyone assumes he'll be traded before the end of the year because if they start losing, he's going to be a problem.

Speaker 26 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 I don't know if I necessarily agree he's going to be traded because I don't know if they're going to pull the ripcord before the trade deadline.

Speaker 77 I do know that I'm very excited for Kansas City Chief in 2026, Tyreek Hill. And

Speaker 29 that has been written for the last couple years now.

Speaker 54 Here is my...

Speaker 54 This is not a defense of Tyreek Hill, okay?

Speaker 38 But the Tyreek Hill and the Dolphin situation, it is analogous, and this is going to be awkward and uncomfortable, but it is, I think, the right analogy.

Speaker 34 If you are in a long-term serious relationship and somebody cheats,

Speaker 51 you have a fork in the road moment where you must decide, you know, after a set period of time, am I over it or am I not?

Speaker 53 And if I'm over it, then it's done with.

Speaker 36 We will move forward.

Speaker 32 It will not be consistently brought up.

Speaker 63 You won't be six months later in a fight dropped on you.

Speaker 40 And if you're not over it, then you need to, and you're not going to be able to get over it.

Speaker 5 You need to break up.

Speaker 56 Every week, Tua and the team and being like, yeah, Tyreek's got to earn back our trust.

Speaker 52 Man, Tyreek sure was an ass at the end of last year, up to and including them being the only team in the league where the hands down unquestioned best player isn't a captain after being a captain the last two years.

Speaker 40 Just it's a half measure.

Speaker 54 And so I think that's foolish.

Speaker 63 I think that what Tyreek did at the end of the year was awful.

Speaker 56 And if the Dolphins wanted to sever ties at that time, so be it.

Speaker 26 They can't. Once you can't, Nick, they can't.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 37 So then you just got to grin and bear it.

Speaker 63 Then the public,

Speaker 62 the public message needs to be, ah, we don't listen to Tyreek.

Speaker 30 He says a bunch of crazy stuff.

Speaker 55 The guy runs super fast and is a great receiver and we love him and yeah

Speaker 10 what you can't do is be like

Speaker 65 we don't want you we don't trust you but we need you that's not going to work we all know that's not going to work so i just felt like i feel like this is a half measure that i that i'm not a fan of i'm also curious for you guys

Speaker 65 I don't know what would be more interesting because I think either of these is possible.

Speaker 56 Do you think it's on the board that Tyreek was voted a captain?

Speaker 53 And Mike McDaniel's like, nope.

Speaker 7 Cook the book.

Speaker 20 That's what I said.

Speaker 18 It was just theorized earlier in the show today that nobody would ever, it's the perfect crime.

Speaker 8 Let me run another theory by you, Nick. So I think that maybe Tyreek comes in and he's feeling some remorse for how he's handled situations.
And he said, you know what, guys?

Speaker 8 I don't want to be a captain this year. And he showed that he really is a true leader and team captain by removing himself from the ability to be a team captain, showing both maturity and growth.

Speaker 58 Yes, and if that happened, then you know what I do to really put a nail in the coffin of this story?

Speaker 38 When I'm Mike McDaniel announcing the captains, I announce all of them and then I say, and one more

Speaker 80 back!

Speaker 62 Tyreek Hill!

Speaker 81 And everyone claps, oh, yeah, Ty.

Speaker 7 Because here's the thing.

Speaker 73 Like,

Speaker 82 and this is,

Speaker 56 there would be nothing, what, what, and again, I don't think this happened, and this is unfair to two of, but it is a fun thought exercise.

Speaker 53 What if Mike McDaniel's counting the votes, and he's like, we got a problem on our hands, boys?

Speaker 38 Tyreek got more votes than two of them.

Speaker 36 Like, what we can't do is have that, have that be the situation.

Speaker 44 Now, he said it was overwhelming for the six guys who got it, and that's fine.

Speaker 38 I just, he was, I think Tyreek was never a captain with Kansas City, which that's the other way to go is be like, ah, this guy does a lot of things.

Speaker 43 Leadership's not one of them, so we're never going to put that on

Speaker 3 his plate.

Speaker 71 But when he's been the captain the previous two years, this is a little messy in my opinion.

Speaker 18 Hard Knocks concluded last night. It's the most boring hard knock season ever.
I know how you feel about the Bills. Did you watch any of that?

Speaker 43 I have not watched Hard Knocks the last couple years.

Speaker 29 And when you say you know how I feel about the Bills, you mean the only person in sports media who's been right about them every single year the last five years, including last year when people said, you know, actually it's a rebuilding year.

Speaker 67 And old Bills troll, Bills hater Nick Wright was like, nope, they're going to be in the AFC championship game right again.

Speaker 5 And I actually think that's going to happen again this year.

Speaker 70 I did not see it.

Speaker 60 I did see Sean McDermott yesterday in his annual, maybe even semi-annual at this point,

Speaker 36 press conference where he's like people don't understand what great human beings live in western New York and, like, what, how, how amazing our fans are and doing that whole thing because there is some weird monopoly on, like, Americana

Speaker 34 inversely correlated to how awesome your city is.

Speaker 73 And so,

Speaker 54 he then said twice, he was like, I'm so sick of hearing about the Bills and the Super Bowls.

Speaker 10 They made four straight Super Bowls.

Speaker 42 That'll never happen again.

Speaker 15 Oh, really, sir?

Speaker 42 Well, that's interesting.

Speaker 36 because the team that kicks your teeth in every suit, every playoffs has made three straight. That feels to me like a Freudian guarantee that the Chiefs aren't making the Super Bowl.

Speaker 33 Noted.

Speaker 43 I haven't noted.

Speaker 67 I haven't noted

Speaker 56 alongside all of the nonsense I've heard about the defining dynasty of the defining sport of our time.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 3 no one ever again will make four straight Super Bowls unless, of course, the Chiefs do what they do every year, which is make the Super Bowl.

Speaker 18 In terms of hurt for you personally, where you invest your mouth and your heart, last year's loss in the Super Bowl for you, and money, yes, and money,

Speaker 18 your feelings when you lost the Super Bowl last year to Philadelphia and loudly had proclaimed that you wouldn't lose, where did that one rank in terms of after it's over, you're actually hurting?

Speaker 19 Worst sports loss of my life, Dan.

Speaker 29 Thanks for bringing it up on the eve of the new season.

Speaker 6 Is it the worst?

Speaker 18 It's the worst sports loss of your life?

Speaker 22 Just financially?

Speaker 56 It hit for the trifecta.

Speaker 5 Financially, professionally, emotionally, all of it.

Speaker 19 You know, I'm a max pleasure, max pain guy.

Speaker 29 I know Dan likes the trials and travails of my, you know, financial gain and ruin, so I'll tell you guys a fun little one, then I'll get to the real emotion of it.

Speaker 29 I had obviously made a lot of bets before the year and during the year, Chiefs' future bets.

Speaker 38 I also am in a very,

Speaker 63 it's kind of convoluted, but it is a gambling, what I will call consortium, where future bets are traded like stocks, and you can be like, hey, I'll give you 100 shares of the Chiefs for 200 shares of the Lions.

Speaker 53 And it doesn't matter.

Speaker 68 Moral of the story is going into that Super Bowl, because I'm such a sharp gambler, I was in a position where if the Chiefs lost the game, I lost less than $10,000.

Speaker 60 But if they won the game, I won close to 80 because of all the swaps and trades I'd made.

Speaker 67 So for a normal person, that would be the action.

Speaker 50 I'm like, I can't not bet the actual game, too.

Speaker 62 So Chiefs minus two and a half.

Speaker 33 Give me a lot of that.

Speaker 72 They're going to win by a field goal.

Speaker 37 Then they got curb stumped.

Speaker 65 So that wasn't great.

Speaker 56 The reason it's the worst sports loss of my life, Dan, is a couple, couple, the couple, you know, multifold.

Speaker 69 One is pre-Mahomes, the Chiefs never played in big games.

Speaker 34 I heard my dear friend and mentor, Colin Coward, say Patrick Mahomes got dropped in the greatest situation any player had ever been in.

Speaker 77 The Kansas City Chiefs, in the 30 years before Patrick Mahomes had gotten there, won one playoff game.

Speaker 34 In the 50 years before he had gotten there, they've been to one conference championship game.

Speaker 11 In the seven years since he's been there, they've been to seven straight and five Super Bowls.

Speaker 35 But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 67 It was emotionally devastating devastating because they entered that day with the opportunity to become the greatest team in the history of American team sports, and that's now gone.

Speaker 66 Like,

Speaker 66 if you win three straight Super Bowls, you know, and get to win four out of five, or I'm sorry, it would have been four out of six, and all of it, you're just minted.

Speaker 37 And I, do I think that they're ever going to have a chance to win, like, win one game, be the greatest team of all time?

Speaker 47 that'll probably never happen again.

Speaker 66 So, yeah, that's why it was devastating on all fronts.

Speaker 62 Luckily, in 30 hours, that's last year, and last year might as well be 100 years ago.

Speaker 29 We're into 2025.

Speaker 18 What are you excited about this season beyond the Chiefs?

Speaker 19 Oh, so much.

Speaker 63 I'm excited about the annual tradition of

Speaker 68 it's not Lamar's fault.

Speaker 60 Look at the EPA per play.

Speaker 5 I'm very excited about that.

Speaker 63 I'm very excited about

Speaker 53 the cope that we're going to have in late January when Lamar either wins another MVP or comes close to it.

Speaker 60 And I listen to all the smartest football people I know explain to me how he's actually playing the quarterback position at the highest level ever.

Speaker 34 And if you look at all of his interceptions last year when there were only four, three of them actually weren't his fault.

Speaker 38 He's solved it.

Speaker 29 And then when once again he plays one of his worst games of the year in the playoffs, they're like, sample size, you moron, you think the results matter?

Speaker 36 You idiot, you Neanderthal, you think there's such a thing as a big game quarterback?

Speaker 65 Haven't you seen the Ravens DVOA?

Speaker 30 I'm excited for that.

Speaker 44 I'm excited for what I think could be a monster year from Baker Mayfield and a team that I think's going to make the Super Bowl, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 63 I am very excited about that.

Speaker 41 And I am also excited

Speaker 38 to see

Speaker 29 what the rationale comes around week 14 when Kansas City is about to clinch the AFC West.

Speaker 35 How all the folks who were like, well, listen, I know Mahomes is great, but have you seen Bo Nicks what they're saying?

Speaker 3 Because that is, there is no hotter take out there on the sports marketplace than Bo Nicks is going to be the guy that dethrones the greatest quarterback of all time, and that's going to age quite poorly.

Speaker 22 You couldn't help yourself.

Speaker 18 You couldn't help yourself, though. I asked you, non-Chiefs division, and you always bring it back to the Chiefs.

Speaker 18 You cannot have an interest that doesn't somehow involve the Chiefs.

Speaker 75 I asked you,

Speaker 18 I asked you, non-Chiefs division.

Speaker 53 Dan's, it's 1938.

Speaker 32 Dan's hosting a physics talk show, and he's like, hey, non-Einstein, tell me what you want.

Speaker 54 And then you end up referencing somebody, and he's like, you,

Speaker 12 you, rube,

Speaker 72 where's Oppenheimer when you need him?

Speaker 33 I don't know, man.

Speaker 62 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 52 I do think that the, the, that in 20, in the 2020s,

Speaker 10 the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes are the main character of the movie, and everyone else is supporting actors.

Speaker 18 I don't like your hostility, and I think it's born just because Pablo's having a big morning.

Speaker 4 Big morning.

Speaker 18 I think that that's what the problem is.

Speaker 18 That Pablo's having a big morning, and you hate it, and there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 22 I don't hate it.

Speaker 42 That's the thing.

Speaker 10 I think I really legitimately respect

Speaker 63 the, and I think important,

Speaker 20 important

Speaker 32 niche he's carved out.

Speaker 33 And I mean, you, there's, there's no other way to, in six,

Speaker 51 do you know how groundbreaking your work has to be to in six months become, you know, according to Time magazine, a more influential podcaster than Joe Rogan or Dan Lebetard?

Speaker 3 I mean, those guys have been working at it for 30 years or 20 years.

Speaker 53 And I want, listen, here's the deal.

Speaker 66 I want to root for Pablo.

Speaker 52 But then,

Speaker 50 occasionally, things like

Speaker 73 his name being in the mini crossword and him tweeting it, okay, fine, I'd probably do the same thing.

Speaker 73 But then also

Speaker 15 tagging in the picture the Peabody Awards makes it to where I just can't, I just can't

Speaker 65 see that exist

Speaker 72 and not react.

Speaker 43 Like, it's again, I'm happy for the guy, I suppose.

Speaker 32 And the work he's doing is, in our silly cartoon world, quite important.

Speaker 41 And I do like the fact that he's actually getting the documents and doing journalism.

Speaker 52 I don't know, you know, I'd like,

Speaker 32 I haven't followed up on the Malik Beasley expose because I thought he had him dead to rights.

Speaker 38 And then I guess the feds disagree.

Speaker 63 I don't know. I actually tend to side with Pablo on it.

Speaker 53 So there's a lot of these things that I think are relevant and good.

Speaker 38 But then, like, again, there was, there was a moment in time where Pablo is doing the mini crossword.

Speaker 63 He sees his name and he's like, this is awesome.

Speaker 11 And then he's like, I should screenshot it.

Speaker 44 And then he's like, I should, I shouldn't just text this to my mom or my friends.

Speaker 38 I should tweet it.

Speaker 44 And then right before he hit send, he was like,

Speaker 36 should I, anybody I should tag, should I tag the New York Times?

Speaker 50 No, everyone knows it's Times.

Speaker 40 What if I tag the Peabody Award?

Speaker 62 That's just, I'm sorry.

Speaker 44 That's hilarious.

Speaker 36 That is objectively hilarious.

Speaker 53 And I can't get over it.

Speaker 70 I just can't.

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Speaker 13 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 8 All right, we got to go back out there. That was big.

Speaker 74 Wake him up.

Speaker 18 Uh-oh.

Speaker 18 He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result.
He needs something that happens.

Speaker 61 You can see that motherfucking.

Speaker 74 He says, Can we bother?

Speaker 18 Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg.

Speaker 13 My microphone's on.

Speaker 17 Stugats. Paint the scene.

Speaker 74 The paint the scene is: I gotta go to work. Good night.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with his two guards.

Speaker 15 You're not wrong.

Speaker 4 I mean, thank you.

Speaker 62 I love Pablo, but that was worth lampooning. That is worth, yes.

Speaker 18 Also worth lampooning is that he joined us to talk about his story today from the Harvard Club. But what did you think about the actual story?

Speaker 18 What was your reaction to reading some of the details you've read on what you'd agree would be the biggest sports story of our day, yes, before football starts?

Speaker 64 It's the most important sports story of the day.

Speaker 30 Now, first things first just got expanded, so it's three hours long.

Speaker 77 I'm not sure if we have quite enough time in those three hours to talk about Kawhi Leonard on the eve of football, but if maybe if we get to a fourth hour, I think we would have fitted in.

Speaker 44 Here, I mean, honestly, you're gonna hate this answer,

Speaker 50 but my reaction is

Speaker 70 these are the these are the lengths the league has to go to prevent LeBron from getting six rings.

Speaker 77 It's just unbelievable.

Speaker 55 He was gonna sign with the Lakers, they were gonna have AD and Kawhi and rip off a whole bunch of them, and then they're like, We'll look the other way, pay him extra, he wants to be in LA, but we

Speaker 34 can't have that happen. Um, so that was my first reaction.

Speaker 36 My second reaction is, it seems a little clumsy.

Speaker 31 Like,

Speaker 51 in today's day and age, I would have thought there's easier ways for a multi-billionaire to slide a guy a few million bucks.

Speaker 27 Like, maybe, maybe Ballmer and Kawhi, if this is true, need to spend a little more time in the high-stakes gambling world.

Speaker 34 There's a lot of ways to transfer millions of dollars that don't involve notarized contracts with LLCs.

Speaker 45 Like, that seemed odd, but that's, I'm impressed.

Speaker 71 I'm impressed that they got the info.

Speaker 53 I do think it's noteworthy.

Speaker 41 My guess is this gets a little swept under the rug, but anytime you can get, you can include in your media that cool, like, voice distorter thing, it's a win.

Speaker 55 Like, I'm a big fan of that.

Speaker 18 And in the, in the, in, if we were to stack up all of the instances, someone someone was like I need the face and voice distorter I don't know where whistle blowing on Kawhi Leonard's extra money ranks in the on it but it's you know it is that is that is I think charming as well I'm surprised to hear you say though that you're underwhelmed as you are by what might be the ramifications of this so it doesn't make your three hours of conversation today because I do believe whatever you imagine the penalties are going to be here if I gave you the penalties today, there would be no circumstance under which you would tell me that's not a story you're talking about.

Speaker 64 Oh, so that's actually, you know, if you guys all pull back the curtain a bit, that's actually one of the reasons that I don't think we're going to talk about it today on the show.

Speaker 51 Is it to me, it goes one of two ways: either the NBA turns a blind eye,

Speaker 44 in which case it's a story, but like what it's it's it's a better written article, long form podcast thing than seven minute television segment, or there's real penalties, and if there's real penalties, then we'll have obviously ample time to talk about it.

Speaker 31 I don't, I would, I, I would

Speaker 36 set the over-under

Speaker 51 at penalty for this

Speaker 22 at

Speaker 30 one and a half second round picks and I would probably take the under because my guess is this is and and this is this is not a shot at the story or the reporting at all this is more about the league my guess is it's just easier for them to be like

Speaker 37 we gotta kind of do nothing because the real penalty it feels like a max men situation the real penalty would be way

Speaker 27 way way worse than what happened to Joe Smith and or the Timberwolves is it Joe Smith

Speaker 77 yeah the Timberwolves are Joe Smith.

Speaker 37 And I don't, do we think the NBA wants to just generationally kneecap

Speaker 37 the Clippers and that new arena?

Speaker 75 Not the NBA, but the other owners.

Speaker 18 I believe the other owners will be pissed off enough about this and what you said, which is the Lakers could have had him and we're going to have him.

Speaker 18 And the Clippers evidently cheated in order to get him.

Speaker 25 Or does Nick think that the other owners are like, damn it, they're on to our

Speaker 12 circumvention.

Speaker 24 Right.

Speaker 82 Well, that's.

Speaker 11 I want to be very careful with this, okay?

Speaker 29 And so careful that I don't even want to say the names.

Speaker 15 Go on.

Speaker 30 There was a very unique thing that happened with one of the league's absolute super marquee franchises and super marquee players like seven years ago, where a player,

Speaker 7 a player...

Speaker 29 who was a clear max player, arguably one of the very, very best players in the league, took less money on an extension than he could have.

Speaker 38 And it saved, it was like $6 million less than he could have gotten.

Speaker 62 And it saved the team $0 in cap space.

Speaker 78 They were over the cap, whatever.

Speaker 63 But it saved the owner like, again, $30 million, call it, in luxury tax, okay?

Speaker 41 But it didn't help the team on the court at all.

Speaker 36 There was no competitive reason to do it.

Speaker 3 It was, you know, a hundred millionaire player losing out on six million.

Speaker 51 So the owner who's a multi-billionaire could save 30.

Speaker 32 And it never made sense.

Speaker 77 And the only way that to me ever made sense was if the owner was like, hey man,

Speaker 32 rather than me send the league office 30 million to pay you six,

Speaker 53 here's a flash drive that's got 10 million in crypto on it.

Speaker 35 I'm going to leave that on the table and you figure out whatever contract you want.

Speaker 31 Like,

Speaker 60 I always always felt like that specific instance was so illogical that there had to be like a okay we'll make you hole on the back end maybe it wasn't as simple as the you know crypto drive but something

Speaker 46 and so i do i wonder how

Speaker 18 prevalent things similar to this are just maybe not as ham-handed as a no-show contract can you guys look up for me some of the information on anthony carter with the heat because i remember something happened with him where...

Speaker 24 I remember it very well.

Speaker 18 Okay, tell Nick the details on this because I assumed that the Heat had some sort of side deal because of

Speaker 18 what Anthony Carter and his agent ended up doing.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I mean, Nick, we're talking back, this is 2004, and Anthony Carter had a player option, which he, his agent, forgot to opt. into

Speaker 16 the money that the heat now didn't have to pay him allowed them to sign Lamar Odom and Anthony Carter ended up missing out on back then what was a pretty significant amount of money, and it really benefited the heat.

Speaker 33 And I always thought, you know what?

Speaker 18 Because I don't think even Anthony Carter fired his agent after it.

Speaker 33 I was like, ah, you know, he's being made whole somewhere.

Speaker 18 Was that Bill Duffy? Was that the agent? Like, it's an agent who would never make that mistake. Was that Bill Duffy? Like, but

Speaker 18 you think this is a ho-hummer that the NBA is just going to skip past.

Speaker 47 I don't, I, again,

Speaker 19 because I poked fun at Pablo,

Speaker 77 I don't want to

Speaker 11 be misconstrued here.

Speaker 65 I do not think this is a ho-hum story.

Speaker 3 I think this is legitimately excellent journalism.

Speaker 60 I think it is, it seems like they've got them dead to rights.

Speaker 65 I think

Speaker 27 it is too

Speaker 79 it is the path of least resistance is to find a way to skip past it.

Speaker 38 I didn't think it was, and again, people get very,

Speaker 5 again, I'll try to be careful.

Speaker 12 I didn't think it was a hummer

Speaker 57 when it was like, hey, crazy thing, maybe the greatest baseball player ever, certainly of our generation,

Speaker 70 his

Speaker 3 translator has simply the greatest credit limit of any gambler in America.

Speaker 81 Oh, okay, no problem.

Speaker 62 Nothing to see here.

Speaker 36 At some, I know that never, and again, maybe this is because I'm very fluent in like legitimate kind of high-stakes gambling worlds, that's the type of credit limit that really can only be extended to someone who is known to have tens of millions of dollars.

Speaker 78 And I didn't think, now again, maybe the maybe the translator just had the worst bookie and they just, you know, maybe they thought he's backstopped.

Speaker 65 I don't know.

Speaker 33 That to me felt like there's, it's, doesn't quite make sense to me, but the easiest thing for everyone was to be like, that guy's a gambling addict.

Speaker 55 That guy's a gambling addict with a very irresponsible bookmaker.

Speaker 40 It's like, okay, like that struck me as odd.

Speaker 78 And so sometimes I think on these things, the path of least resistance is the way the path people go.

Speaker 18 He is the host of What's Right with Nick Wright. He's on FS1's First Things First.
You can watch him on First Things First weekdays at 3 p.m. Eastern on FS1.
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Speaker 18 Your answer or rebuttal to your nemesis, Mina Kimes, claiming that you fraudulently had two different number one teams, that you told her the Ravens are the best team in the NFL, and then months later, you went on with Dan Patrick and said the Chiefs are the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 61 Wow. Okay, well,

Speaker 22 Mina

Speaker 73 Mina sets up her

Speaker 4 show

Speaker 55 where that it's she gives you a binary choice.

Speaker 54 She says, I think it was Eagles or Ravens.

Speaker 64 I could only pick one of them.

Speaker 73 And so Mina is, Mina, and I, I I almost have to be clear on this because my bosses and her friends thought our like we were really at a real beef.

Speaker 52 And so, I actually adore Mina, and you know, and she's obviously much, much smarter about, you know, the most boring parts of football than me.

Speaker 12 I can kind of just see the actual landscape of the league better.

Speaker 33 Um, but, uh, but I had no choice there, and Mina cannot question my take integrity.

Speaker 63 There's a lot of things you can make fun of my nose, you can say I might have a gambling problem, you can be, You can question how I, you know, got the platform that I did.

Speaker 36 All those things.

Speaker 34 You can call me outright obnoxious. That's fine.

Speaker 53 Do not question my commitment to take integrity in any circumstance.

Speaker 45 So that's what happened.

Speaker 11 Obviously, I think the Chiefs are the best team in the league.

Speaker 32 But again, I'm not as smart as the folks that are like, actually, if you look at adjusted EPA over a five-year stretch, the Ravens are historically great.

Speaker 72 And the playoffs, they don't really matter.

Speaker 5 By the way, subscribe to the podcast, please. You guys, listeners, I would appreciate it.

Speaker 29 What's right with Nick Wright?

Speaker 19 Thank you.

Speaker 18 It is great. And he does it with his son.
And

Speaker 18 he said we can make fun of his nose. He said we can make fun of his nose.

Speaker 75 Dan, I have something better than that.

Speaker 10 It's not germane to the conversation.

Speaker 48 Dan, I have something better than that. Lewis, can you pull up? He met somebody that is very famous online, and I was very excited to see this collaboration.

Speaker 25 Once we get it on the screen, it's going to be exciting.

Speaker 25 Nick, Nick, you met Coojine.

Speaker 64 Oh, this is a good thing.

Speaker 25 Looking into a mirror.

Speaker 12 You and Coojine.

Speaker 56 Me and Coojine.

Speaker 38 This was a good bit.

Speaker 10 This was a good bit we did.

Speaker 12 Me and Coojean.

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Me and Coojine. That was a good bit.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Again, what's right with Nick Wright? He does it with his son. It's different.
And he's allowing us to make fun of his nose. So there it is.
He said it is casting indeed a shadow on his teeth.

Speaker 24 Casting a shadow on your teeth.

Speaker 24 Nick,

Speaker 18 it's good to see you.

Speaker 18 We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 7 Send me some of those peanuts. See you guys.

Speaker 12 We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 20 Take care. Brush your hair.

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