Hour 1: Happy Thanksgiling Pt. 3!

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Speaker 3 Mark Stein, one of the longtime journalistic voices in basketball, not unlike Tim Kirchin,

Speaker 3 someone who only cares and knows anything about his sport and knows very little else by his own admission, knows basketball, says the alleged violations in this incredibly detailed Pablo Torre report are staggering and without precedent, a story that has shaken the NBA already, like very few.

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Speaker 3 Ballmer nor the Clippers circumvented the salary cap or engaged in any misconduct related to Aspiration. Any contrary assertion is provably false.

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Speaker 3 Ballmer was aware of any improper activity by Aspiration or its co-founder until after the government instituted its investigation. The team and Mr.

Speaker 3 Ballmer stand ready to assist law enforcement in any way they can. So, case closed.
The funniest part of this statement is the Mr. Ballmer is capitalized, and I'm certain that's how they refer to him.

Speaker 3 Everyone refers to him there. It's not Steve Ballmer, it's Mr.
It's not even MR, period. The Mr.
is capitalized, and the Ballmer is capitalized because he is referred to by capital M, Mr.

Speaker 3 and Ballmer in press releases and in person.

Speaker 21 Do you think they pronounce it like the way you would if it were all capitalized?

Speaker 11 Like, Mr. Balmer.

Speaker 21 That's that's how you would say capital.

Speaker 3 It should have an exclamation point. That's how he talks, right?

Speaker 11 Like, that's it. Like, Mr.
Balmer.

Speaker 23 So, does Pablo owe Mr. Balmer an apology now that they've come out and cleared this all up?

Speaker 21 You're good with the defense there?

Speaker 23 I mean, it feels like this could have just been resolved over a phone call. Like, hey, did you do it? Like, nah.

Speaker 8 I'm like, okay.

Speaker 24 Traditional media versus a billionaire.

Speaker 22 I know how this one goes.

Speaker 3 We can move on to other subjects, but just to close the loop on what it is that not Greg Cody accused me of earlier, poor journalism judgment in a story from 30 years ago about the White House in Dallas.

Speaker 3 The story was about

Speaker 3 sex and the Super Bowl. That's the story that I was doing.

Speaker 3 And one of the other things in that story that I've told you about recently was that I called Derek Thomas for that story, the late Derek Thomas, to ask him if it was true that when he and Shannon Sharp got into a fight on Monday night football that got Derek Thomas ejected for three straight or two straight penalty flags for unsportsmanlike conduct because Shannon Sharp had enraged him, I was calling Derek Thomas to ask him if all Shannon Sharp was doing was repeating a woman's telephone number that he cared about.

Speaker 3 And Derek Thomas hung up on me.

Speaker 3 as soon as I called him. And Shannon Sharp, because Derek Thomas has passed away, says, I will never say what it is that I was saying to Derek Thomas.

Speaker 3 Shannon Sharp has been in the news recently, let go by ESPN, fumbled the bag like very few people ever have. And we have some sound.
These guys were teammates, Ray Lewis and Shannon Sharp, for

Speaker 3 a championship team. Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 3 Among the best tight ends I've ever seen before we started making Gronks and Travis Kelsey's. Really prolific, productive.
And

Speaker 3 given that I saw the 30 for 30 on the Ravens, given that I saw Ray Lewis and Shannon Sharp interact, I didn't think that where we've now arrived in public discourse would be a thing that I saw given the unity of the huddle.

Speaker 3 Here's Ray Lewis talking about Shannon Sharp, and listen to what Ray Lewis has to say before you hear Shannon Sharp hurt by what Ray Lewis had to say.

Speaker 27 Yeah. So you're not surprised by the success he's having with his podcast and TV and him and Skip and Stephen A, all that stuff.
No, I'm not surprised. I'm shocked at his content.

Speaker 27 I wouldn't, in a million years,

Speaker 27 the things that Shannon has said now or did now, I would never believe that Shannon will say or do anything.

Speaker 27 Yeah, and then so I kind of started to watch him and then

Speaker 27 we kind of went our own separate ways because I'm like, hmm,

Speaker 27 you're going to take that route. I can't go that route.
Never can go that route. And that route is to become so worldly that you become popular because you're talking about ignorance, right?

Speaker 27 A lot of times, a lot of these gossip conversations that they're having and bringing up all this stuff, I'm not going to do that to nobody. I'm not in the business for that.

Speaker 27 I'm in life to try to teach people what does it mean to be a better man or get back to the kingdom.

Speaker 3 Ray Lewis is not the only one who feels that way about Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 3 All the smoke guys say that they don't like some of of the stuff that is being done in modern media that Shannon Sharp is also doing.

Speaker 3 But I do feel like Shannon Sharp is pretty close to authentically himself in public because this is the guy that during games would pick up the phone that goes to the offensive coordinator when they were scoring and scream on the sideline, call in the National Guard.

Speaker 3 They're in trouble. Like this is the personality that Shannon Sharp was.
But Shannon Sharp, because of everything going on around Shannon Sharp, was hurt by this and is trying to take the high road.

Speaker 3 I want you to listen to this though, and not just for Shannon Sharp's hurt. I'm here to maintain that Ocho Cinco does the Stugats job better than anyone does the Stugats job except for Stugatz.

Speaker 3 Ocho Cinco, the perfect sidekick to help Shannon Sharp do what he's doing.

Speaker 30 I ain't got nothing bad to say.

Speaker 30 Because a lot of things,

Speaker 30 when you tolerated,

Speaker 30 I'm going to go ahead and say my thing. Whatever transpired, I'll bite my tongue.
I'll be the bigger person. I'll walk away.

Speaker 29 Hey, you right

Speaker 30 because you know why, Ocho is low-hanging fruit.

Speaker 19 Yeah,

Speaker 30 you know how I know

Speaker 30 because your boy, you're looking at him, he's low-hanging fruit, and there are a lot of people taking your shot at your boy.

Speaker 29 Come on, man,

Speaker 30 y'all can have it, y'all got it, y'all got me.

Speaker 28 It's all right, yeah, it's okay,

Speaker 28 it's okay,

Speaker 30 we're gonna be all right o che yeah

Speaker 30 we're gonna be all right

Speaker 31 listen i i could have told you that i could say that i've been telling you that yeah

Speaker 30 everybody everybody want to pile on everybody jump on now hey we got him down ocho we got him down the best time to hey let me get let me get my lick now

Speaker 30 Everybody want to get a lick now because when your boy was doing good, even here,

Speaker 30 a lot of people that have a whole lot to say. Thank you.
Everybody got something to say.

Speaker 3 What are you guys shaking your heads about?

Speaker 18 I think Ocho said more than Shannon did.

Speaker 35 I don't know what anybody's saying.

Speaker 36 Why is that really got to be talked about in code?

Speaker 37 I care about this even less than when it's.

Speaker 3 It's not code. He's saying that he's low-hanging fruit.
Everyone's taking their shots. And he's hurt by Ray Lewis being one of the people who's taking the shots there.

Speaker 21 Don't forget, it was a very famous scene ahead of that Ravens first Super Bowl win where Ray Lewis was going through it, you know, with all the legal stuff, and Shannon Sharp invaded the media day, put his arm around Ray Lewis and did a whole deal about what a great man this is, and I don't like the way that you're treating him.

Speaker 22 That was a big thing back then.

Speaker 8 I don't think Ocho really helped him out there either.

Speaker 22 I mean, you got to talk.

Speaker 38 There's

Speaker 20 so much silence.

Speaker 22 At least Sugats will fill the gaps with a fake laugh.

Speaker 29 Ocho,

Speaker 39 he didn't even say anything, did he? Like, literally, did he say five words?

Speaker 40 I mean, it sounded like call and response while you're in church. You're like, wow, that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 Did we change the

Speaker 3 numbers, the technology on your modulated voice? It's a different person. What just happened there?

Speaker 39 Who do you mean?

Speaker 39 I've been here the whole show, that kind of thing.

Speaker 14 Roy sounded fine.

Speaker 8 Chris sounded fine.

Speaker 23 What are we talking about here?

Speaker 3 The thing that I saw while I was on vacation that actually made me feel really bad for Shannon Sharp, even though you may not feel bad for Shannon Sharp, was when he was lamenting the fact that he implored ESPN to not release the news that he was being released until after his brother's Hall of Fame weekend.

Speaker 3 Obviously, that's not how the news works, but I did feel bad for Shannon Sharp having to be around Sterling Sharp profusely apologizing when Sterling Sharp is telling him, please don't apologize, but he ends up soiling what was a, you know, one of the great nights of Sterling Sharp's life.

Speaker 34 I think, given the three, because Chad had stuff in the pros too, the three of them, generally, to most people, they elicit very strong opinions.

Speaker 35 And I don't think empathy is usually one of them.

Speaker 3 Anyone can understand, though, embarrassing your family, though, no? Like you, anyone. I understand that empathy can be hard to come by when we prefer to laugh, especially as cruel as social media is.

Speaker 3 But who doesn't understand loving your brother? It's his big day. And look at what you've done.
You're more famous than your brother. You're a better football player than your brother.

Speaker 3 Your brother is getting one moment in the lights that is a fountain of youth. And that week, you're the news, not your brother.

Speaker 41 Maybe if there was more separation from the events, but if you've got an empathy bandwidth, I don't, and it's directed around whatever is surrounding Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 35 I don't think it's going his way.

Speaker 3 Why would anyone have an empathy bandwidth like that?

Speaker 8 I do.

Speaker 5 I can't muster up the same kind of empathy for Shannon Sharp that you are, obviously.

Speaker 3 But it's not, these things can both be true, though, that you can not feel bad for Shannon Sharp and see a situation here that anybody would feel bad in if they were the one responsible for it.

Speaker 21 Empathy bandwidth sounds like you have only so much empathy you're willing to give out. That is what he's saying.

Speaker 21 When it sounds like you just, you only have empathy for certain people who deserve it.

Speaker 37 I just don't care.

Speaker 37 I just don't care.

Speaker 7 I just don't care.

Speaker 39 I think the two brothers handled it very well on the Hall of Fame stage that day, right? If there was apparent acrimony, then I would feel bad for one of them, but they seem to handle it very well.

Speaker 39 Good for them.

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Speaker 27 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 3 I got somebody here making fun of me. How old do you have to be to reference Shecky Green? Man, I went comedically there with the funny name of a comedian.

Speaker 3 That's on you for not knowing who Shecky Green is.

Speaker 44 I'm not going to know who Shecky Green is.

Speaker 3 No, you don't have to know who Shecky Green is, but I...

Speaker 28 No, no, I I don't like my ally.

Speaker 26 I'm going to get a Borschbelt. Stugats.

Speaker 12 I have the soul of a Borschbelt comedian. I should be in the Catskills in 1945 opening for Shecky Green.

Speaker 3 That's who I was destined to be.

Speaker 26 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 3 Do you guys want to play the game? Do you guys still want to play the game where I turn my back and try to figure out whether on the voice modulator who's on the voice modulator?

Speaker 25 Should we go back to the monster or leave that one? This is a fun game. I'm honest.

Speaker 19 I don't know if you guys still want to play the game?

Speaker 5 Suggests I want to play the game from the start.

Speaker 34 And also, Ray kind of lost me with all the signatures behind him on that podcast.

Speaker 12 Let's try it one time. Turn around.
And then we're going to have someone talk, and then you will have to guess who it is.

Speaker 3 All right, but Zaslow, Zaslow was saying that he saw Ray Lewis recently not wearing a baseball cap, and because he was not wearing a baseball cap, he comes home.

Speaker 3 Ray Lewis wasn't as intimidating as he used to be.

Speaker 21 Yeah, he's got the horseshoe going on.

Speaker 18 He's got to go home.

Speaker 20 Mike.

Speaker 3 Also, what was suggested is that the original voice modulation sounds a little bit like Andrew Luck, and I was wondering if at some point we might be able to get Andrew Luck, our fake Andrew Luck, talking on the voice simulator to see if we can distort that a little bit.

Speaker 3 But I'm going to play the game that Mike doesn't want to play right now. I'm going to turn my back here to the proceedings, and I'm going to try and guess which one of you is talking.

Speaker 3 But I don't see, I don't think you guys are much for getting out of your seats and scrambling.

Speaker 3 So I'm going to guess before I even do this that this is going to be Greg, that none of of you are gonna move, and it's gonna be Greg.

Speaker 12 All right, well, now right now you're hearing shuffling around, like we're moving. A lot of people are moving.

Speaker 8 All right, let's see here. All right, I'll go over there.

Speaker 46 All right, a lot of shuffling.

Speaker 8 All right,

Speaker 21 that kind of thing.

Speaker 6 Is that Roy?

Speaker 11 Wow,

Speaker 26 was that before?

Speaker 26 That was Roy.

Speaker 11 We stink at voice modulation.

Speaker 29 All right, wow.

Speaker 8 Game over.

Speaker 12 Good game.

Speaker 8 Nobody moved.

Speaker 3 As a company, we stink at voice modulation. Let's continue to see if we can get better at this as we go along, shall we? Would it

Speaker 5 kill you to talk some football?

Speaker 20 I mean, not football for a while.

Speaker 23 We know it's starting tomorrow.

Speaker 8 I mean, damn it.

Speaker 8 Give them a day.

Speaker 8 Ravens, biggest bills. Huge bills.

Speaker 33 We got cowboys, Eagles. We got so many big games that people are going to want.

Speaker 48 These are Chargers.

Speaker 22 These games are sold out.

Speaker 11 How?

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Speaker 3 Since you want to talk about football, I am very pleased to have Greg Cody in studio as a long-time NFL writer, one of the longest-timed NFL writers.

Speaker 3 He is entering his 35th year of making NFL predictions.

Speaker 3 Weekly, I believe my brother did the first art for the upset bird that he consults whenever it is that he thinks there will be an upset in the NFL.

Speaker 3 Over the 35 years, Greg, have you tallied your overall record? Do you know your overall record over 35 years picking games both against the spread and straight up?

Speaker 39 Greg's not here, but let me speak for him.

Speaker 39 He does know his all-time record.

Speaker 39 I don't personally know it right now, but I can tell you

Speaker 12 overall.

Speaker 29 Oh, my God.

Speaker 8 Overall.

Speaker 19 The Max is false.

Speaker 8 Wow. Wait a minute.

Speaker 11 It's you.

Speaker 29 Wait, I'm back.

Speaker 39 I'm back. It's Greg Cody.

Speaker 8 You guys tricked me.

Speaker 29 You fraud.

Speaker 8 Where have you been, Greg? You missed the bread. Okay, what's going on here?

Speaker 51 No, my overall record, meaning not against the spread, is

Speaker 9 in the neighborhood of 650 to 660.

Speaker 12 Against the spread is

Speaker 8 so distracting.

Speaker 51 My record against the spread is over 500. I want to say about 520, 518, 522.

Speaker 12 There's an echo chamber in here. What's going on?

Speaker 23 The echo.

Speaker 8 What else is new?

Speaker 3 This is not, not, not an echo

Speaker 23 Now people are going to think this is Greg the whole time.

Speaker 8 I know, right?

Speaker 3 That's not terrible, but it sounds like you have spent 35 years picking games.

Speaker 3 And basically, if you had been doing that with your money, it would have cost you money because the VIG would have made it so that you would be a career loser in money at that clip.

Speaker 39 Again,

Speaker 39 I'm guessing on the percentage.

Speaker 3 You wouldn't be, though, if you were at 73%. That's not.

Speaker 11 you were.

Speaker 39 73%?

Speaker 39 What are you insane?

Speaker 39 Anybody who says they're at 73% is lying or hallucinating.

Speaker 29 You must be high.

Speaker 12 I mean, come on now.

Speaker 19 Let's get real.

Speaker 32 I had a great season last year. I was like 68, 69% overall and about 53, 54% against the spread.

Speaker 19 It's difficult.

Speaker 9 You know, this isn't the NCAA where, you know, Miami's favorite Bethune Cookman by 115 points.

Speaker 8 This is King Sport.

Speaker 11 This is the NFL where the biggest point spread.

Speaker 52 The speaker of the week this week is like seven and a half or eight points. It's ridiculous.
Every game is close. Everybody can beat anybody.
And I'm slaying the dragon.

Speaker 52 I'm the man in the arena with his sword. Slaying the mighty point spread.

Speaker 3 You like the pros better than college, don't you?

Speaker 8 I do.

Speaker 52 No, I do. For that reason.
You know? You can pick whoever you think is the best team in the NFL, let's say Philadelphia. Whoever you think is the worst team, let's just say New Orleans.

Speaker 52 It could be a competitive game. In the a in in the NCAA,

Speaker 52 you have a couple of difficult games and then you have five or six wins that are just baked in. Okay?

Speaker 52 And you start the season with five wins and then you have your the Bethune Cook wins, and no offense, Billy, the FIUs. I mean, Penn State versus FIU, come on.

Speaker 11 What are we doing here?

Speaker 23 I mean, FIU is others receiving votes in the coaches' polls.

Speaker 52 I saw that. I didn't know you had a vote, Billy.

Speaker 3 Since I prefer to talk about games that have been played than games that are going to be played, let's talk about college football for a second. Let's talk about the polls.

Speaker 3 Let's talk about the coaches' poll. Let's talk about the fact that Florida, Florida State, and Miami are all in the top 15 after week one.
One of the things every year

Speaker 3 that I guard against because

Speaker 3 I don't believe that before week one, anyone knows much of anything, which is why you get the FSU Alabama result that you get and no one sees it coming.

Speaker 3 But I also feel that while coaches always say the biggest improvement always gets made from week one to week two every season because of what happens in game one with jitters and people being off.

Speaker 3 I also believe it can be hard to detect in watching games like Notre Dame, Miami, for example, if Notre Dame is actually going to be good this season because I don't believe their quarterback is going to carry them this year.

Speaker 3 I don't believe that C.J.

Speaker 3 Carr, I believe Miami's defense is good, and I would have believed it was good before what I saw yesterday, just based on some of the things that they did in the portal and in the offseason and just revamping the defense.

Speaker 3 But I don't actually know after watching Miami and Notre Dame if that Notre Dame offense is going to be limited all season because I don't believe in their quarterback.

Speaker 3 And though he played well under the circumstances, seeing what I saw, I don't, I know now it's a signature win, but I also know that anyone that was in your top 10 in week one was made in your top 10 by a lot of people who don't know anything.

Speaker 3 And so some of those things can end up being a mirage. And so today, I don't know if FSU is really good or if Alabama is really bad.

Speaker 41 Oh, at the end of the season, that could look like an 8-5 team be, you know, a seven-win team.

Speaker 5 I think that that's probably more likely for FSU and Alabama, given that Alabama is five and five in their last 10 and FSU is coming off a season where they had two wins.

Speaker 50 Gus Malazon, he can do that to certain teams that are unprepared to play.

Speaker 35 And it certainly looked like Alabama was unprepared to play.

Speaker 5 There are so many highlights on social media of guys giving up, jogging to where they think the play is going to go, not caring whatsoever.

Speaker 38 I do think that Miami's win over Notre Dame will age.

Speaker 5 Well, I rewatched the game a little bit.

Speaker 22 That game was actually pretty close.

Speaker 5 It's just that Miami won that middle eight, the last four minutes of the first half, the first four minutes of the second half, and that's when Miami looked their best.

Speaker 45 But other than that, they were kind of matching blow for blow over there. And CJ Carr, I think, really impressed because I thought he looked great.

Speaker 48 For a dude that never played, and yeah, maybe he was.

Speaker 21 Certainly nervous in the first half. You know, the throws weren't good.

Speaker 21 He looked nervous.

Speaker 5 They were conservative with him, the short passes to kind of get him going. And then when he had to start making plays, he was doing so with his feet.

Speaker 5 And Minchy was supposed to be the more mobile of the quarterbacks.

Speaker 50 I think Notre Dame is going to be all right.

Speaker 5 And historically, under Marcus Freeman, that is a team that gets stronger as the year. progresses.
And after that...

Speaker 21 I mean, it was week two last year they lost in Northern Illinois. Right.

Speaker 5 And you see games that could be tricky on their schedule, like Arkansas and Boise. Well, Boise looks like they've completely fallen off without Gente.

Speaker 5 So I do think that Notre Dame is going to be in that conversation. And I do think we'll look back on Sunday saying, oh, those two teams have made sense.
They kind of remained in the conversation.

Speaker 18 To the FSU point, though, like they looked great on almost every side of the ball, right? Offensive line was going and attacking people at the point of attack. Defensive line looked good.

Speaker 18 Their defense was actually something that last year was obviously embarrassing. This year, they stood up.
I don't really like Ty Simpson that much.

Speaker 5 I think think that he's kind of a stop back quarterback for whoever they get next but their offense tommy cassianos was dynamite yeah and he didn't have to have to throw and i was laughing at things but even the throws he did make were like spot on you don't really see that from him yeah i think early on he kind of grew into the game and he's one of those front-running quarterbacks that as soon as he knows that he's got something he feeds off that energy and to the other team from the state of florida that is also ranked in the top 15 collectively with the big three uh for the first time since the pre-ranks in 2006 i actually came away with a ton of concerns for Florida, which is rare in a game that a team wins 55-0.

Speaker 5 You get zero sacks against a Long Island school that we all learned at the same time has a football program.

Speaker 33 They surrendered 11 tackles for loss. That is a team that is not winning the line of scrimmage as impressively as they should against a school that, again, we just learned has a football team.

Speaker 18 And that schedule, have you seen that schedule?

Speaker 22 It gets tough.

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Speaker 27 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 3 Greg Cody of the Miami Herald. He's actively playing defense against my ability to do the show because what are you laughing at?

Speaker 29 You're just laughing at it.

Speaker 47 Honey boo-boo is embroiled in controversy. It's funny to me.

Speaker 29 Sorry.

Speaker 28 He couldn't stop laughing just looking at the picture of Honey Boo-Boo.

Speaker 28 That doesn't sound healthy. It's a his laughter.
We were fantastic. We can't make him laugh like that.

Speaker 3 It's how he's going to die.

Speaker 28 Right here, just laughing and coughing.

Speaker 47 I want to die like that.

Speaker 26 This is the Don Lebatar Show with his two guards.

Speaker 52 Breaking news.

Speaker 19 ESPN, Stephen A. Smith, and First Date are talking about the Pablo Torre Blockbuster.

Speaker 3 I like on the screen it just says according to documents obtained by Pablo Torrey.

Speaker 8 It's just his name. It's not just.
No, it's not Pablo Torrey.

Speaker 18 It's the documents that he has.

Speaker 3 No, but it's just Pablo Torre. They're not even saying Pablo Torre finds out.
They're just saying Pablo Torrey has documents.

Speaker 3 You don't normally see somebody by name being referenced as having documents on ESPN. I want to ask you guys, from among all the stats that you saw in Alabama,

Speaker 3 did any of you see a better stat than this one? I gave it on the show that we did on Labor Day. Chris Cody, can you please get me the stat of the day music?

Speaker 3 I want to ask you guys, of all the numbers that you saw, did you see any number better than the one I'm about to give you here?

Speaker 54 Start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day.

Speaker 54 Start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day,

Speaker 54 start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day,

Speaker 54 start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day

Speaker 3 Zaz, you want to take a guess as to how many times, if you don't know it, how many times Sabin in 230 games lost to an unranked team?

Speaker 8 Oh, man.

Speaker 20 230 games, all Alabama.

Speaker 46 All Alabama.

Speaker 3 Do you guys have any guesses on this? I'm going to guess.

Speaker 3 Because he played obviously against a lot of ranked teams, but he played against 230 unranked teams.

Speaker 21 You know, I'm going to say zero.

Speaker 52 I'm going to say four.

Speaker 3 Four is exactly right.

Speaker 52 I do my research by due diligence.

Speaker 21 He just asked the question. How did you do any research?

Speaker 10 Undercut the whole business.

Speaker 10 I knew it.

Speaker 52 I mean, I knew it.

Speaker 52 That happened to be in my

Speaker 23 thing about sources. They know the information.
That's why you have to cover his voice so you don't know who knew.

Speaker 3 That's not the stat, though. That's the first part of the stat.
Oh.

Speaker 3 deboer has coached 14 games at alabama you want to guess how many times he's lost to unranked teams oh yes yes yes i'm gonna go one

Speaker 21 two three now four

Speaker 52 oh i was gonna say 35

Speaker 3 i'm pretty done with that bit

Speaker 23 also jeremy read that stat yesterday on the air i know

Speaker 29 so we did it we ran it into the ground the stat all right we did it Oh, okay.

Speaker 44 Not the modulator.

Speaker 20 Oh, that still got legs.

Speaker 3 Do you guys have a better stat than that one?

Speaker 21 I mean, I liked that Kalen DeBoer, he has lost in four of his five losses are when Alabama was a double, was a two-touchdown favorite. Four losses so far as a two-touchdown favorite.

Speaker 20 Like that, that's pretty wild.

Speaker 5 Do you want to play Devil's Advocate, though?

Speaker 22 Marcus Freeman had that reputation.

Speaker 5 He's lost some big games as a multiple touchdown favorite, and they usually grow into seasons, and everyone would concede Marcus Freeman's a very good player.

Speaker 3 I thought Carr looked good under the circumstances, but...

Speaker 3 I'm bringing in previous knowledge and Jeremiah Love when I say I think that's going to be a big play offense.

Speaker 3 I didn't see a lot of examples of a quarterback who was going to produce a big play offense against Miami. Might be circumstance, might be Miami's defense.
I expect Notre Dame to be good.

Speaker 3 I'm just telling you that I often see games before week one and after week one where two teams are playing and I can't quite tell you how good they are because I don't know if both of them are bad or both of them are good.

Speaker 3 I don't know if both of them are somewhere beneath where I expected them to be or whether they're going to be better.

Speaker 3 When I'm watching Miami and Notre Dame play against each other, though, the thing that did jump out to me, and it's why it is I understand the Miami fanbase's criticism of Mario Cristobal.

Speaker 3 What we did see is a team with a two-turnover advantage have Maulers on the offensive and defensive line.

Speaker 3 And usually when that combination of things is in play, I can tell that this offensive line can't handle this defensive line. And I can tell that Miami's offensive line can handle this defensive line.

Speaker 3 If I give that team a two-turnover advantage, put them at home, they're not kicking for the game with a minute left.

Speaker 22 And then you have to remind yourself that's a Notre Dame team that, yeah, leaned on Riley Leonard a lot to make plays, but they brought a lot of dudes back from that team that ran through big-time programs all the way to a college football playoff final.

Speaker 5 You could argue that's the best secondary in the nation.

Speaker 50 In fact, many are.

Speaker 49 And Miami was making plays against that secondary.

Speaker 48 So look, we've been there.

Speaker 24 There was a Labor Day night game with Jakore Harris where we all thought Mark Whipple was the next greatest thing and Jakore Harris was a Heisman favorite.

Speaker 33 And then it turns out neither FSU or Miami were good.

Speaker 24 And who's to say?

Speaker 33 I'm sure there will be games like that when we look back and look at week one under a microscope.

Speaker 50 I just happen to think, given the very recent track record of Notre Dame and the fact that Miami looks a certain way, that those two teams seem to be legit.

Speaker 21 Well, that's what it is for me, is Miami looking a certain way. You know, like I, like that Hurricane team that we saw Sunday night, those bodies, the physicality that they showed.

Speaker 21 All right, the Kanes, you know, you go back the last eight, nine, ten years,

Speaker 33 they've had some.

Speaker 21 They've been few and far between, but you've had some big wins, you know, specifically 2017 against Notre Dame. But, like, that to me, you won that game 41-8 that game against Notre Dame.

Speaker 14 You weren't 33 points better than that Irish team.

Speaker 21 You know, you look at this win Sunday, the fact that it was a close game,

Speaker 21 I thought that spoke better for Miami.

Speaker 21 If they go up 21-7 and they keep pouring it on Notre Dame, it's like, all right, you're not this much better than Notre Dame.

Speaker 21 The fact that they won a tight game, it turned out, against the Irish, I thought that spoke a lot about this Keynes team.

Speaker 37 And they left some points on the ground.

Speaker 45 They were very spooked by Notre Dame's special teams.

Speaker 50 They called a timeout on a punt return because they didn't like the look, and then they rushed another field goal because they didn't want to take two timeouts on special teams, and they end up getting zero points from that Justin Scott force turnover.

Speaker 5 I think that Miami still has a much better performance in them, and it's great to lean on the defense and win a game in which you feel like you left some points on the board.

Speaker 23 But you thought blowing a 10-point lead and winning a close game was better than laying it on and blowing them out?

Speaker 21 Yeah, because if the Kanes go on and they win that game, let's say by 28, 31 points, you're not four touchdowns better than Notre Dame. Like,

Speaker 21 I don't know what that proves in that spot.

Speaker 21 The fact that they were able to have a 14-point lead at one point and then, okay, Notre Dame makes the comeback and then you were still able to respond in a tight game and pull that out, that to me meant something.

Speaker 21 I think it means more than a blowout victory.

Speaker 20 I think I see your logic.

Speaker 47 I would have preferred, I would feel better about Miami if they did.

Speaker 21 Well, you feel better about it because you wouldn't have been nervous at the end of the game.

Speaker 20 Right.

Speaker 2 I do think that there was potential for that game to get out of hand and

Speaker 41 a slip here on a wet field,

Speaker 24 a big, busted coverage here and there.

Speaker 24 Like there were moments where Notre Dame just made certain plays, maybe got lucky or whatever, but they hung around the same exact way they hung around last year to an annoying degree that made me think, ah, Notre Dame and CJ Carr, they're going to be all right.

Speaker 21 I wanted to see them just, I wanted to see them pull it out in a a big spot.

Speaker 21 We saw they were capable of building a double-digit lead, and we also saw they were capable of responding and pulling out a game in a big spot.

Speaker 23 But they blew a lead, and if you didn't have a freshman quarterback, it's too many drills, they could have lost that game.

Speaker 11 They blew a lead.

Speaker 12 They also have more confidence in their kicker now. You could argue.

Speaker 23 Four of 12 last year out of AU.

Speaker 29 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 21 Well, that was my problem with the final drive. Like, I didn't like settling for a 47-yard field goal.

Speaker 28 Which you nailed, by the way.

Speaker 3 It was four of 11. I want to attack a couple of things here.
You said that Miami fans were just nervous.

Speaker 3 That is absolutely where all of the spoiled entitlement is coming from the loudest people who aren't satisfied with a win over Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 You didn't like that you were scared at the end of the game and so you're mad at Mario Cristobal because you were scared at the end of the game. That happens all the time.

Speaker 3 I told you guys what I saw between championship locker rooms when I walked in as a freshman, University of Miami.

Speaker 3 They never lose a home game while I'm in school, but I don't have any context for what college football players are supposed to look like.

Speaker 3 So I walk in as a freshman and I see Jerome Brown and I'm like, that's not a fellow student in the locker room.

Speaker 3 But years later, when they were on probation and I'm going in there and it's Ryan Clement and a bunch of kids with pimples, when CJ Carr took his helmet off on the sidelines and I'm seeing that guy being chased by Ruben Bain, I'm like, that's a child.

Speaker 3 That is a young, that is a young, that Carr looks very young. He's taken off his helmet and he looks like the leader of Notre Dame is not yet grown up because he's very young.

Speaker 3 And so so what I didn't see was a big play offense in that game from either team.

Speaker 3 Like they were, I understand that there were three fun touchdowns of 30 yards in the first half, and there was a broken play late in the game.

Speaker 5 Two pretty good secondaries, it would appear.

Speaker 3 But there were not big plays in that game.

Speaker 11 Two good defenses.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.

Speaker 20 And there were, like, I watched that.

Speaker 7 I love the first touchdown pass from Beck, and I gave him more credit than Malachi Tony because I thought everyone was hyperbolic about the 17-year-old.

Speaker 33 And in watching the game back, seeing Malachi Tony shorten his route, adjust to the ball the second it leaves Carson Beck's hand against that secondary.

Speaker 40 It's a pro move.

Speaker 33 It's a 17-year-old boy that is making that decision in that play.

Speaker 33 And to the second touchdown pass, I came away more impressed with the throw from Carson Beck, especially knowing that that was something that they recognized in their prep and knew that that specific two foot by two foot area was going to be there for that play.

Speaker 5 Perfect execution there.

Speaker 33 I think Miami is in good shape.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I thought calling Carson Beck's throw lucky on that second touchdown pass is garbage. You know, you had to make a great throw and also a great catch.

Speaker 21 Both of them were necessary in order to get a touchdown there. And they did both.

Speaker 36 It was a great throw and a great catch.

Speaker 3 But the thing being lost on both of these, the thing being lost is that his eyes are still downfield on both of them right before he's about to get crushed.

Speaker 3 Right, like he waited until the last possible second

Speaker 3 to make both of those throws. Put it on the poll here, please, Juju.
Did you ever think Mark Whipple was the next greatest thing?

Speaker 3 And also put on the poll, can anyone named Mark Whipple ever be the next greatest thing?

Speaker 3 I want to play for you some sound here and see if you recognize anything about it. It's not sports.
It's that cracker barrel, that silly cracker barrel controversy.

Speaker 3 The Wall Street Journal has a podcast called the Journal. This is not a sports story.

Speaker 3 And I want to see if you guys notice anything about this reporting done by the Wall Street Journal's podcast on this Cracker Barrel story.

Speaker 55 All because a new streamlined logo erased that old timer and set off a digital pitchfork mob. Our colleague Heather Haddon has been covering the story.

Speaker 15 A lot of commentators were like, no, we do not like this.

Speaker 36 So Cracker Barrels made everybody crazy today.

Speaker 21 Yo, that's me.

Speaker 3 It would have been good to leave the trailing sound of other serious podcast voices at the end of that so that people would have noticed that that was you on the podcast as opposed to you speaking right here next to me for the audio audience that's not watching.

Speaker 3 Well, I was shot.

Speaker 21 I didn't expect to hear myself.

Speaker 36 That was me. What was this?

Speaker 19 Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 12 This was a serious Wall Street Journal podcast breaking down everything going on with Cracker Barrel, and they wanted to give some context, so they they just dropped in Zaszlo.

Speaker 3 I told you he's a rising star. I told you that he, everyone in media is noticing what it is that Jonathan Zaszlo is doing these days.
And so this is not an edit.

Speaker 3 This was something that the journal put together and we were all shocked when we heard Jonathan Zaslow's voice inexplicably in the middle of the Cracker Barrel controversy.

Speaker 55 All because a new streamlined logo erased that old timer and set off a digital pitchfork mob. Our colleague Heather Haddon has been covering the story.

Speaker 15 A lot of commentators were like, no, we do not like this.

Speaker 36 So Cracker Barrels made everybody crazy today.

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No, you were not. They stole that sound from our show.

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