Local Hour: Dan Doesn't Know Ball (feat. Amin Elhassan?)
After the self-loathing UM alumnus Dan Le Batard accuses Mike Ryan, the chair of the Division of Competitive Hostilities in the University of Miami's Department of War, of threatening to fight an old man, Mike explains why Dan's lack of ball-knowing may cost the show an interview with 5-Star General Mario Cristobal. Also, Roy is John Tesh, and Greg got lost on the way to the office.
Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Zaslow, Chris, Jeremy, Mike, Roy, and Tony.
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Speaker 3 Chris, have you ever, in the history of this show, walked in and seen anyone trying to fight your dad?
Speaker 3 Because I walked in today and the argument that Mike and Greg Cody were having seemed like both of them were unhinged.
Speaker 3 I just caught pieces of it. I know what it was about because I heard a few of the stray words and I heard a Crystal Ball reference, but what were you arguing?
Speaker 3 And I know which side Mike's on, so where were you? What did you you do to make Mike want to fight an old man?
Speaker 1 I don't know because we're on the same side here.
Speaker 1 We both feel strongly that the University of Miami deserves to be in the college football playoff. The disagreement, I think, is that he still thinks they're going to make it, and I don't.
Speaker 1 I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think they're going to make it. I think that's our only disagreement.
Speaker 3 Well, it seemed like you were disagreeing vociferously.
Speaker 1 I don't know how you do it. How long have you known this guy?
Speaker 1
How long have you known this guy? A while. You have electively decided that this guy is someone you want to have in your life.
I have.
Speaker 1
He's been in my life for 20 years, and I'm at my wit's end with this. Like, out the gates.
Wow. Lying, fake news.
Speaker 1 Shit-stirring.
Speaker 1 We were talking about it. I was talking to Chris.
Speaker 3 I was talking to Chris.
Speaker 3 This happens all the time when we have university.
Speaker 1
And I was speaking, and you interrupted me. Yeah, because I was talking on the channel.
What side is he on? What side is he on? I was speaking to him. And you get to see it.
What side are you on?
Speaker 1
Turn his mic off. Turn it off.
Turn it off. It's off.
I was talking to Chris while I was talking to Greg. Shut your mouth.
It's back on.
Speaker 3 Do you know?
Speaker 1 Chris, can I speak?
Speaker 3 What happens to everything around here if I shut my mouth?
Speaker 1 This is the Dan Labatar Show with the Stukats Podcast.
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Weekend observations is presented by Miller Light. That's right.
If you're looking around and say, this doesn't look like a means on the show, I'm not. Guess what?
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Dropping out of Georgia Tech turned out to be a mistake. Should have been an engineer.
My internet would be better. I could fix it.
Get on the roof. Plug in some things.
Speaker 4 dial in, tap into the satellites. I don't know what the
Speaker 4 what happened. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 Dan,
Speaker 4 Georgia georgia tech had the dream season led by a heisman worthy quarterback with hopes of a college football playoff berth on the horizon but with back-to-back losses including one where i lost a bet to l duncan just like that make no mistake i mean not giving a single flying focusa about college football is back
Speaker 4 l duncan
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making a bet to potentially wear Georgia Tech gear on Sports Center, then leaving ESPN the next day. Hetty play.
The Colts, losers of three of their last four,
Speaker 4 still have the Seahawks, the Niners, and the Jacks twice left on their schedule. You hear that sound, Dano?
Speaker 4 That's the sound of a clock striking midnight. Pumpkin time.
Speaker 4 The Finns, keep hope alive yet again. Told you, Greg Cody, stay strong.
Speaker 1 Diamond hands.
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For about a half of football, I thought the Raiders were actually going to beat the Chargers. Progress.
Look what they did to my boy Gino.
Speaker 4 These are so much better when I'm interacting with a human being. Don't look now, but here come the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 4 It's like they exclusively play better when they're missing one of their best players.
Speaker 4 For about a half of football, I thought the Browns were actually going to beat the Niners.
Speaker 1 Improvement.
Speaker 3 Shelby Harris.
Speaker 1 Five minutes left in this? I'm not doing this for five more minutes.
Speaker 3 What do you mean, five minutes left in this?
Speaker 1 I thought he was doing great.
Speaker 3 He is lonely. He's defeated.
Speaker 1 It's like a bad stand-up bit.
Speaker 3 He tried so hard at the beginning and now he can't do anything right. And he did this on the internet yesterday because his internet didn't work here.
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So he did it on our social media platforms and it sounded really lonely. It was the most depressing weekend observations I've heard.
He was looking around the room as if he were suspicious.
Speaker 1 He didn't have any hostage video. He didn't have any sad.
Speaker 3 He didn't have any help.
Speaker 3 A half a football. I thought he didn't have to be able to do it.
Speaker 1 He looks like he's laying down on a wooden floor.
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They suck. Situations to keep an eye on.
Since losing Trey Young in late October, the Hawks are 11-5 and have the 10th best defense in the league.
Speaker 1 10th best defense.
Speaker 4 To point business against Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 1 All right. Turn that down again.
Speaker 3 You can turn six minutes.
Speaker 1 Tyler Shuck. How is there more time left than there was a month before when you told me there were five minutes left? It's getting longer?
Speaker 1 Roy,
Speaker 3 what are you dressed as?
Speaker 1 John Tesch.
Speaker 1 Striking resemblance. Really? Yeah, look just like him.
Speaker 1
A couple of things are off about, you know, the resemblance goes. Oh, no, no, no.
No. What are they? He doesn't call it the collars different.
Speaker 1 Yeah, cufflinks on the bottom. I don't have any collar.
Speaker 1 That toupee looks great.
Speaker 1 Thanks, Greg. It really does.
Speaker 1 Take that home.
Speaker 4 He's the number one name in football. I'm still not sure I have a handle on.
Speaker 1 Bring that thing to back. Terry Sanders.
Speaker 4 You get it? Because he's hard to tap.
Speaker 1 Seven minutes left? We've known about the beeps, man.
Speaker 1 How are there seven minutes?
Speaker 1 The beeps lift that whole thing up.
Speaker 4 Knock, knock.
Speaker 4 I really needed someone else to interact with.
Speaker 4
Let me try to do it. Knock knock.
Who's there?
Speaker 4 The Carolina Panthers, whom you declare to be dead, beat your precious rams, whom you log praise for at every step.
Speaker 4 I'm not very good at knock-knock jokes. Yeah, that would have been better for Daniel.
Speaker 1 Turn it off. Enough.
Speaker 3
Enough of this. I got enough of this two weeks ago.
I got enough of it yesterday. I've had enough of it today.
I am not misrepresenting the conversation that Mike and Greg Cody have.
Speaker 3 Mike has declared himself a minister of war.
Speaker 3 I hate the term war around football and sports, and Mike is warring right now.
Speaker 1 Sometimes it's appropriate.
Speaker 3
He's warring right now with Texas governor. Ron DeSantis is stealing his shit.
Ron DeSantis is stealing Mike's shit.
Speaker 3 And I'm convinced that everything Mario Cristobal does is with Mike Ryan's hand up his back because I'm getting some complaints.
Speaker 1 Quite the visual.
Speaker 3 I'm getting some complaints. complaints around here.
Speaker 3 Chris Cody is telling me, hey, Cristobal is going to come on, and I'm sure he's going to be doing like stand-up at a local car wash, trying to microwave. He's going to be spend the next
Speaker 1 reason why he may not.
Speaker 3 Okay, well, what's the reason he may not be on?
Speaker 1
It's you. Yeah.
You fool. That's right.
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. You've seen his anti-UM.
Yeah, people know your whole deal. Anytime this program faces adversity, you try to work in a Billy Gill or Jeremy Tashet
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to speak for an audience when you're the Miami guy. You actually went to the school.
You've been on the opposite side of the line, my friend. You are the enemy.
You're not an ally. Alumni hater.
Speaker 3 I hate myself.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you hate yourself. Selfie-loathing alumni hates the ball.
Speaker 3
I'm the alumni. I'm an alumni hater.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 You haven't been an ally.
Speaker 3 It's true. Where are you getting that from?
Speaker 1 You think the audience would answer that way? You think the audience...
Speaker 1 Where am I getting that from?
Speaker 1
You would get a general. I know where you are.
My five-star general.
Speaker 3 Just one.
Speaker 1
Four stars. Hey.
Four stars. Five.
Five. How do you know? Not helping daddy.
Five. Five.
Speaker 3 Then what is Sabin?
Speaker 1
He's also five. You can't go higher than five.
Right.
Speaker 3 And that's why he's a four-star. He's a four-star.
Speaker 1
Okay, then give Sabin six. Wow.
Sabin says that we're the most dangerous team in the nation, so I'll give him a six-star.
Speaker 3 I'd say Texas Tech is that. Texas Tech is the only team I believe.
Speaker 1 Why do they think I'm an enemy? I love Daniel. Why do they think I'm an enemy?
Speaker 3 I believe that Texas Tech is the only team in the country, the only one, that could have Miami not play a close game, that it's a possible outcome if they were to play Texas Texas Tech.
Speaker 1
You don't know ball. He doesn't know ball.
And this is what I keep hearing from Coral Gables. Yep, same.
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Not a ball knower. They're not saying specific names, but they're just like, if we're going to do this, we can't have any non-ball knowers around.
Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 Who lost to Sam Levitt on one foot, Texas Tech?
Speaker 3 No, but they were playing with their backup quarterback.
Speaker 1
Go ahead and let Miami play with their backup quarterback. Malachi Tony.
We got to play with Malachi Tony. You're welcome.
The most dangerous weapon in the nation. I actually got to see that.
Speaker 3 Actually, I'd let them in the playoffs if they told me right now that Malachi Tony, Sight Unseen, was going to be the quarterback. I'd let them into the playoffs just based on that alone.
Speaker 1 Never remind that Carson Beck is like top 10 in passing rating, and he's like the second best quarterback that we've had here in 25 years.
Speaker 3 I want to hear more, Chris, about your negotiations. I believe Mario Cristobal will be everywhere the next couple of days trying to get.
Speaker 1 I got a request in.
Speaker 3 I mean, he's going to be everywhere. He did his first interview with Mike Ryan on Kane's Insight.
Speaker 1 No, with the money. I was in the shadows.
Speaker 1 With your hand up his mouth. no no but it was the second time you said that
Speaker 1 it was interesting to be like hey kentucky took texas to ot they just lost 41-0 while you were out there on the field dominating you should work that in i'm really glad we've called out all of the horrible bias that exists in the media because we're the you know straight-edge truthful media over here shut up asshole like you're the most biased guy jack shit over here spewing like i i re-watched your clips i'm now dumber for it
Speaker 1 but every single one of your clips can be undone by something Miami has done on the field. You want to talk about metrics? You want to talk about transit property?
Speaker 1 You want to talk about common opponents? Miami's got all the boxes checked, pal, including the ones and the criteria outlined by the CFP themselves. Miami shouldn't be debated as a playoff team.
Speaker 1 It's a matter of fact, this is a playoff team, and it might just be the best team in the nation.
Speaker 3 You think I misrepresented your attitude when you were talking to Greg earlier before?
Speaker 1 If that is not your stance this week, then you're not with me you're against me how dare you look me in the face and say i am not a ball no you don't know ball you don't know ball you're texas tech texas tech oh say it i can understand texas tech spot the ball in lubbock i triple dog dare you i will say i thought they meant jeremy texas tech lost a game this season with their backup quarterback well they better win this weekend because we need that by you loss uh they will win this weekend because they're a good deal better than
Speaker 1 she all right
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deserves it anyway. I mean, let's be real.
Dan's argument yesterday for Miami was like, oh, they're going to have four losses in two years. How dare they be excluded?
Speaker 1 It's the exact same thing for BYU, except they'll have two top five losses.
Speaker 1
Again, super easy to undercut your argument. BYU lost their one game by more combined points, and Miami's lost two.
Who'd they lose to?
Speaker 1
Who's lost? They lost to Texas Tech. That's right.
Yeah, Texas Tech. A great team.
No, they're Texas Tech is a good team. They're all right.
Speaker 1 They're a good team. Meh.
Speaker 1 I'm not sure my dad. They're not better than us.
Speaker 1
True or false, Miami's playing better football right now than when they were the number two team in the station. Yes.
Correct. When we were ranking number two,
Speaker 1
we were not playing this. Well, that's not bias, pal.
Those are facts.
Speaker 1
Those are facts. If you're not watching the game, here's what I know about you.
You're not watching. No, they're playing better.
You're not watching. I mean, who's BYU beat?
Speaker 1 They're playing better than they were when they lost to SMU. Who's BYU beat?
Speaker 1 Who's BYU beat?
Speaker 3 Who's Ohio State beat?
Speaker 1
Okay, but the fans should be out. I'm with Dan.
They should be out. Like, it's fine Ohio State being there.
You could see they're awesome.
Speaker 1 I think they have one of the longest streaks by winning by 15 points or more.
Speaker 1
The national champs are good. They're really good.
Agreed. All right, so we all approve of Ohio State.
Yeah, they're all good.
Speaker 1
I can't believe you don't all agree on Texas Tech. I can't believe that.
It's fine, but they wouldn't beat Miami, dude. Like, this is what it is.
Speaker 3 Look, no, I'm not saying they would beat them easily.
Speaker 1 You said that they would beat them by more than one point. No.
Speaker 3 Listen, what I said was Texas Tech is the only team in the country that I have seen that Miami might have a situation in which they would get blown out. There is no other team in the country.
Speaker 1 There are might in there.
Speaker 3 I don't think that there is another team in the country that I would say that about, including Ohio State.
Speaker 3
They're going to play close games. Miami is not going to get blown out by anybody.
The possibility I do believe exists with Texas Tech to get blown out.
Speaker 3 It doesn't mean that I actually think Texas Tech is better than them. I just think that in a game where two teams are even, Miami could also blow them out.
Speaker 3 But Texas Tech is the one team in the country I've seen where I'm like, oh, they can run up a score on people.
Speaker 1 See, Dan brings up a really interesting point there because there was a lot of mites that he threw in there between what might happen if Miami and Texas Tech play.
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We happen to know what did happen when Miami played Notre Dame. Hello.
There's a lot of mites there. Might do this, might do that.
Hello. Miami, Notre Dame.
What are they doing?
Speaker 1 We know exactly what happens. We know exactly what happens when they play SMU and Louisville as well.
Speaker 3 But they're not in the discussion.
Speaker 1 california for a reason they're bad cal beat both of those teams louisville is undefeated when they're healthy oh my god and smu doesn't lose conference games at home and if you watch that game which you didn't they got screwed by the refs they got totally on that game got totally undone by one of the worst officiating games that you will ever see in your entire life but miami learned from that miami put themselves in that position by playing a tight game and since then they have totally revolutionized the way that they play their game players have totally come online pringle is a revelation pringle is an absolute weapon we have unlocked malachi tony and it is a factual statement miami is playing much better right now than was it when they were the number two team in the nation that is a factual
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See official rules at program website. Don Lebatard.
Yeah, very good. Imagine if someone told you you couldn't have a Corvette.
Stugats. I'm a grown-ass man who's not
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filthy rich. I can't afford a Lamborghini.
Well, I probably can, but that's
Speaker 1 this is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Speaker 3 Let me put up on the screen some of the interactions that Mike Ryan is having as he
Speaker 3 gets carried away and he's gone after Texas's governor called him wheels wait wait wait, let's not do it.
Speaker 1 Let's
Speaker 1
let's not take the air out of this. All right, here we go.
This is where it starts. Take the air out of this.
Speaker 1 It's one of your moves.
Speaker 1
Again, what side are you on? Yeah. All right.
So this is where it starts. And our great governor, Ron DeSantis, saw this tweet that I put out there.
Speaker 1 Yeah, our great governor, tremendous governor Ron DeSantis.
Speaker 1
So I had that first. Dealing with the important issues.
Yeah, so I found the principles, the outline criteria on the CFP website.
Speaker 1 And it says, for those listening on audio, the committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering strength of schedule. Number one.
Speaker 1
Head-to-head competition. By the way, if you're looking at strength of schedule, Miami is right there, neck and neck with Notre Dame.
All right. So we're not talking about a wide gulf here.
Speaker 1
They're separated by one. Head-to-head competition is number two.
Seemingly overlooked so far by the committee, even though it's written in their criteria.
Speaker 1
Comparative outcomes. Does this matter like the order that they put it in? I don't know.
Is that order of importance? I don't know. But third on the list.
Speaker 1
Third on the list is comparative outcomes among common opponents. Well, guess what? Miami had several common opponents with Notre Dame.
Four of them.
Speaker 1
Four, exactly, including each other, where Miami won. Four of them.
Miami outscored all but one by more points than Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 So if you want to say, ooh, common opponents, Miami dominated that conversation as well. So I put out this criteria.
Speaker 1 If the CFP actually has the principles they outlined in their criteria, then Miami is in.
Speaker 1 If, dot, dot, dot, one hour later, our great governor, Ron DeSantis, kind of uses the template and goes with the same exact.
Speaker 3 God kind of uses the template, does use the exact same thing.
Speaker 1 He stole it from you. Yeah,
Speaker 1 he stole it from you. Yeah, well, he did not have this.
Speaker 3 He did not have this in his phone.
Speaker 1
No. Will the CFP committee follow or ignore its own stated selection criteria? Great point by our tremendous governor Robinson.
How about that? Thank you, Mike. Ron to plagiarizer.
Speaker 3 And so then Mike goes after Greg Abbott, who does the same thing in Texas.
Speaker 1 Yeah, Greg Abbott then realizes, oh, governors are doing this. Let me take the original Mike Ryan screen cap and let me...
Speaker 1
Texas, ridiculous, three-loss ass. He went to overtime with Kentucky.
These are CFP princes.
Speaker 3 And Mississippi State sneaky decent.
Speaker 1 Texas is at the top of these criteria more than any team on the bubble. And then I had a response to that where I kind of also added one of the principles, which was merely beat the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 I took the same exact tile and I put a bullet point. We can throw that up there because there was one regrettable thing that I did with my tweet, my response to Greg Abbott.
Speaker 1 I called them wheels, which you already know because Dan totally undercut it. Greg Abbott famously in
Speaker 3
a wheelchair. He already knows it because you had a hell of a day yesterday.
This was all something that wasn't.
Speaker 1
You see here on the internet yesterday. Why is that an insult? He's in a wheelchair.
Probably how I added that.
Speaker 3 Why is that an insult?
Speaker 1 I did a little cheeky thing. I did a little cheeky thing here wherein the principals, I added in bold, must beat the Florida Gators because we have a common opponent with Florida, too.
Speaker 1
I don't know what the... Oh, yeah, look, you added that.
Look at that. I mean, I'm 3-0 in my last three games against the vaunted SEC, so I don't know what the big talk is.
I think the ACC is harder.
Speaker 3 You apologized for this.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I had to put it out. Yeah, because, I mean, people were a little upset.
I mean, he's in a wheelchair. You can't be calling him wheels.
And I understand that. That is my bad.
Speaker 1
Attributed to the fog of war, so I put out a written apology. You should at least have capitalized the word wheels if you were making that a nickname for him.
War could be stressful.
Speaker 1
War is hell, Zaz. That's all I heard.
And I put out this statement that is there for your perusal. If Dan, you'd like to read it for you.
That's official Miami letterhead.
Speaker 3 Well, the Miami Department of War is the letterhead. I don't believe that's official Miami letterhead.
Speaker 3 Although it says Office of Public Communications and it reads official statement.
Speaker 1 This is from the school. It's from a golden cane.
Speaker 3
This is not from the school. This is from Mike Ryan.
It's the official statement.
Speaker 3 Earlier today, in the heat of spirited sports debate, I referred to Greg Abbott as wheels in in a miscalculated attempt at jocular banter.
Speaker 3 Upon reflection, this phrasing did not accurately convey my intended sentiment. I should have simply called him a
Speaker 3 as was my initial instinct. For this lapse in
Speaker 3 precision and clarity, I offer my sincere apology. The Miami Department of War remains committed to direct, effective, and unmistakable communication in all matters of conflict, athletic or otherwise.
Speaker 3 And I look up and I see Roy dressed as John Tesh, as all of this is inappropriate.
Speaker 1
This is quite the statement because Mike doesn't like that word. I don't.
If you know anything about me, what's your war?
Speaker 1 Well, the B word.
Speaker 1
We love the W word. Yeah.
I was built for this. I've been on the front lines for four weeks.
Speaker 1 You ever see any of those war movies where they find the isolated guy in a tower that's been there for a month and he's gone a little cuckoo? That's what I've been.
Speaker 1 While you guys, Johnny, come lately, but I'm so happy you guys found your balls now that we're 10-2. It's great to have you here on the front lines.
Speaker 3 You sign this respectfully?
Speaker 1 We got to.
Speaker 3 Respectfully?
Speaker 1
I mean. You have to.
How is wheels more offensive than?
Speaker 1 I don't like to use that word. I don't even like to hear it out loud, so can you not?
Speaker 3 Well, it's in the official statement from the Department of War, though.
Speaker 1 On the school letterhead. It says, well, it's not school letterhead.
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's an official statement. It's a school war letterhead.
It's the MDAO. It's not.
Look. It's an OS.
Speaker 3 Just because you say something's official on the letterhead, put it on the poll at Lebatar Show.
Speaker 3 Is something officially official if it reads official on the letterhead? Because
Speaker 3
I believe you all are. Our question You are all saying that this is official, but I just see Department of War, which I don't think the University of Miami has one of those.
Well, neither the America.
Speaker 1 The MDAO.
Speaker 3 I don't believe any of that was respectful. I believe that I have an accurate appraisal of how I walked in here this morning, which is Mike Ryan screaming at Greg Cody and doing...
Speaker 3 What are you saying?
Speaker 1 No, thank you for screaming. What are they consistently saying?
Speaker 3 That is what he was. Thank you.
Speaker 3 That is what the argument was.
Speaker 3 You said something has been consistently said, and what I walked in on was Mike Ryan screaming, what have they been consistent about?
Speaker 1 Well, the chairman of the CFP selection committee. Who has not himself been consistent because it was a different dude the first week that we did this? He's been consistent in both directions, though.
Speaker 1
I'll give him that. What? Yes.
The chairman of the committee at first was saying the eye test goes to Notre Dame. They've been better lately, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1 And lately, he's been saying Miami is looking like the team we saw when they were 5-0. So he's acknowledging that the Kanes have turned it on right when they should late in the season.
Speaker 1 So he's been inconsistent, but he's been consistent in both directions. I'll give him that.
Speaker 1 Didn't Pat Rowley tell Danny Ainge on official Miami Heat Letterhead to shut the f ⁇ up and manage his own team?
Speaker 3
That is not correct. He sent out a team spokesman, the head of media relations, in order to do that.
I don't think they put out a printed statement that also said.
Speaker 1
Yeah, but Tesh's point is well, Tate. That's what Roy looks like.
Well, we'll look that up. I thought that they did too, Roy.
But yeah, my beef there. And I wasn't yelling at Greg.
Speaker 1
I was genuinely curious, what have they been consistent on? Because the criteria changes week to week. It changes team to team.
When they tout the virtues of Notre Dame, it's all about quality losses.
Speaker 1
And you only have to skip down one spot to hear them talk about. Quality wins now.
So did we!
Speaker 1 It's not about quality losses because Bama doesn't have a big-time quality loss when they went to Florida State. That's a really bad loss, but that doesn't help our argument.
Speaker 1
We'd like to move the goalpost around here. There isn't a consistent criteria.
All I know is what's on their website, and it says it values head-to-head.
Speaker 1 Now, you look at all the measurements, they have the same exact record, they have a bevy of common opponents.
Speaker 1 Miami is better than Notre Dame or right there with Notre Dame in pretty much every single analytics, advanced measurement you want to use, including the traditional old win and loss. So did we!
Speaker 1 So when you look at the tiebreaker criteria, near the top is head-to-head. This one's easy, folks.
Speaker 1 It's cut and dropped.
Speaker 3 The reason that I think it's easy is different than the empirical ones that you're citing.
Speaker 3 I simply believe that I ask anybody who's been watching college football on Saturdays this year, do you think Miami is one of the 12 best teams in the country?
Speaker 3 Everyone is saying yes, who's not biased by whatever their allegiance is.
Speaker 1 There's only one person who's not.
Speaker 1 There's a lot of bias. So if you look at the AP, like there was a guy that covers the
Speaker 1 AAC, and he has North Texas at 11 and Miami at 20.
Speaker 1 Even though North Texas got beat up, they have the best quarterback in the world. Well, they got beat up by USF, who Miami beat, who also USF beat
Speaker 1 Florida in the swamp, something that Texas couldn't. Texas is a clown show.
Speaker 1 They have a talented roster that they wasted because their head coach sucks. Wow.
Speaker 1
And for him to go out there and invoke Miami was thrown into the the end zone at the end of the game after Norduzzi called a timeout. Got one more loss than everybody else.
You weren't ever dominant.
Speaker 1 Your big wins, you're barely getting it over the line. You're a joke of a team.
Speaker 1
There are real teams talking here. See yourself out.
And for you to take a shot at Mario Crisobal, do you know what you have, what the hell you have brought? Do you know? Do you know what you've done?
Speaker 1
Because Mario Crisobal is now going to join everybody. Head to head.
And he's going head to head with you. Head to head.
We actually actually have a resume.
Speaker 1 You got three losses and a loss to a common opponent that we have dragged. You want to tell me about how hard it is to go into the swamp? Mario Cristobal has a very recent data point on that, too.
Speaker 1 Head to head.
Speaker 3 So Sarkeesian did point out what some people have been pointing out, which is at the end of the Virginia Tech game and Pittsburgh game, Miami was throwing into the end zone with decided game.
Speaker 1 Who cares? They should. Those minutes don't count.
Speaker 1
They told us that it counts. You have to do that.
They told us that all this stuff counts. It's called style points.
I understand. Ruining the game.
Speaker 3 I understand why he was doing it. He still had his starters in at the end of the pit.
Speaker 1 Damn right he did. He's trying to win a national championship.
Speaker 1 They're trying to tell us what the criteria is. It's not our fault that they change it week to week.
Speaker 1 But one of the things that we've heard is we have to be more impressive, especially against common opponents. So we've done that.
Speaker 3
Consistent both ways, as Greg Cody likes to say, that they've been consistent in opposite directions. They have.
And you give them credit for that. No, I don't.
Speaker 1 I fault them for that.
Speaker 3 No, you said before you gave them, you said you had to at least give them credit for that.
Speaker 1 But look, the dichotomy is ridiculous.
Speaker 1
They're not consistent. They should be behind Miami.
And by the way, Notre Dame just scored 70 points on somebody. It's not Syracuse.
It's a one-common opponent in which they outscored Miami.
Speaker 1 So it's not like Notre Dame's not running up the screen. So Notre Dame might believe Notre Dame to be a
Speaker 1 pleasure.
Speaker 3
Stop summoning that Syracuse game. They're on their third string quarterback.
They lost at home to North Carolina. They lost at home by 30 to Boston College.
Speaker 3 Please stop talking about Syracuse as if that's 70 to to 7 means you.
Speaker 1
I feel like a good way to gauge where we are with this. Last week, I believe Mike was ripping local AP voters for voting Notre Dame over Miami.
I believe we named Jordan McPherson.
Speaker 1
Have we flipped him at least? I told you. Did he? Who did that? That wasn't going to be a thing the following week.
Didn't I tell you?
Speaker 3 Who accused
Speaker 1 of being a non-ball knower?
Speaker 3 I want to know: is Mario Cristobal coming on the show? What are those?
Speaker 3 Done what? You tell me. Tell me what damage.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1
Silence speaks volumes. It's not silence.
It's not silence.
Speaker 1 It's anytime this team runs up to any adversity, you try to bring Jeremy or Billy Gill to the proceedings and speak for an audience that you think loves to drink my tears, which is fine.
Speaker 1
And that's a trade that you're making. You're more loyal to the audience than the University of Miami.
I will give you that. I am not.
My loyalties are laid out there. Damn right.
It's the you.
Speaker 1 What are you doing? And then, God. I'm not a loyalist.
Speaker 1 Not a loyalist, Levittard.
Speaker 3 I'm surrounded by homers, and I want to know who's making the accusation that's non-ball knower. It was just
Speaker 1 a note to if he joins, let's keep the non-ball knowers.
Speaker 1 At ease, corporal.
Speaker 1 Dan's the problem.
Speaker 1
I had a back and forth being like, don't worry, come on the show. Look, this is important.
I know we don't like Dan. I don't like Dan.
All right? But you got to come on our platform.
Speaker 1
We need you on our platform. You need to use this and get your messaging out that I'll be there.
Don't worry. Jonathan Zaslow will be there.
Speaker 1
You'll be surrounded by potatoes. He likes me.
Mario likes me. Oh, yeah.
He loves you, bro. I'll use you as a pitch.
Speaker 1
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Speaker 1 Don Lebatard.
Speaker 1
You are a fool. You're nobody.
You are an infant. You have nobody skin.
Speaker 1 I literally put together
Speaker 1
a freaking stage for your toenail. Nobody.
I am your career right now, pal.
Speaker 1 Look at me.
Speaker 1
I am your career. No.
Stugats. You have messed with me, David, and now you're messing with me.
And I'm more dangerous, pal. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Speaker 1 I don't know if I like to be referred to as helpful, but your point is well. You were just like bragging about
Speaker 1 helpful. Yep, you're the unbiased.
Speaker 1 They are absolutely one of the 12 best teams. You are a Homer, a helpful Homer.
Speaker 1 Look, you guys keep throwing these words out like Homer and bias, thinking that it affects me.
Speaker 3 And war.
Speaker 1 Everyone knows what I am.
Speaker 1 I wear it on my sleeve. I am a proud Miami Hurricane Booster.
Speaker 1 I love this program pretty much more than anything that isn't a human being on this planet and i will die for this program if i have to and i have shown you by sticking my neck out on the on the i would die that's a good i would die you shouldn't do that i would die
Speaker 1 that's war it's an option are you willing to die for your for some
Speaker 1 look you want to call it ridiculous this this is how i live all right this is this has me devastated this is his life this has me you have to pick me up off the floor with a spatula when we lose to fiu and when we win number six i will be elated elated because it'll be the greatest moment of my life.
Speaker 1
That's who I am, pal. I live life to the fullest.
Emotions on my sleeve. You know exactly where I am.
How can you accuse me of bias and homerism when I tell you straight to your face who I am?
Speaker 1
The volleyball team made the tournament. Hell yeah.
Tom Brady was at the game the other day.
Speaker 3 I can accuse you of homerism and bias when you tell me straight to my face that you're a biased homer. That's how I can do it.
Speaker 1 I'm an ally.
Speaker 3 And you've used pal now three times this segment.
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's how you know I'm mad. Well, I I knew you were mad when I walked in here.
Escalating to your words. You don't make me say a word that I don't like to say.
Speaker 3 When I walked in here, I knew you were mad because you were threatening to fight an old man.
Speaker 1 I'm an ally. I know I've been a lot.
Speaker 1
I know I've been a lot, and we've probably lost national audience here. This is my life.
I care deeply about it. I stuck my neck out four weeks ago when none of you people thought we'd go 10-2.
Speaker 1 It's very easy to find your voice now.
Speaker 3 Hold on a second. Just let me slow you down for a second and make everyone understand who it is you're fighting when I come in here and you've practically got Greg Cody by the lapels.
Speaker 3 I want you to see what a text exchange I had with Greg Cody this weekend where I'm just simply trying to get him to lunch, lunch with a friend of ours, okay?
Speaker 3 And I've told him to meet us right here at the studio so I can make it all easy for him.
Speaker 1 Greg drives twice a week.
Speaker 3 Yes, so go ahead and put the text up there that I have. where I'm like, you can park in front of the office and Greg asks me what office, okay?
Speaker 3 so that's where we start who refers to the studio as an office Am I wrong as an office outside I think in the context of what you were doing it was where else if you were meeting me at the if I we already agreed that we were meeting at the elster and I tell you it's at the office at the elcer Where else would it be other than the studio?
Speaker 1 Well, how about you use the word studio?
Speaker 3 Okay, so I did that.
Speaker 1 I feel like you're just being a jerk though with what office?
Speaker 3 All right, no, but then the next step on this I say the studio and then he says I thought I was supposed to just valet park and you're picking me up.
Speaker 3
And I tell him, don't text and drive because he's already lost. And I can tell that he's having trouble just because he's an old man.
And so he tells me that, look at the last text there.
Speaker 3 He got lost on the way to the office.
Speaker 1
It's supposed to be a private text exchange, by the way. Betrayer over here.
A couple wrong turns. Where's my privacy?
Speaker 1 Every week.
Speaker 1 I followed Waze.
Speaker 1
You're blaming Waze. That's messed up.
Whoever leaked those private texts, that's
Speaker 1
dad. Look, you can't keep doing that.
It's ridiculous. Where's my privacy? You got some nerve, man.
How do you get lost on the way to the suing somebody?
Speaker 3 How do you get lost on the way to the office?
Speaker 1
The studio. I didn't get lost.
Waze misdirected me. You know, I'm trying to.
Speaker 1
That's the problem with Waze. In order to save, because Waze thinks you're going to save nine seconds, it reroutes you.
So if you trust it, you trust it. No more do I trust it.
Speaker 1
No, but it asks you, do you want an updated route? You have to click yes. No way this was Waze's fault.
Well, how do you get lost on the way to the office?
Speaker 3 I'll say it again. Like you've been coming here for now a couple of years.
Speaker 1 Start referring to it as a studio. I'll address you.
Speaker 3 He's called me pal a couple of times and told me to shut my mouth. We're not even an hour yet into the show.
Speaker 1
It's CFP rankings day. I'm on edge.
I think my dad's deflecting because that lunch that he went with you on Friday caused major controversy in the PFPI.
Speaker 1
There were just picks not made because there was a Friday. You said yesterday you forgot about the Friday game.
So did the commissioner. So we had multiple teams not made my picks.
Speaker 1
Multiple teams not turn in picks. Usually every week he's on top.
Hey, these people don't have their picks in yet. And this week, no text.
The game goes by.
Speaker 1
We get a text of, oh, a couple people didn't make their picks. No accountability from the league.
Yes, it is the responsibility of the teams to get their picks in.
Speaker 1
But every other week, you are on top of it. And you weren't this week.
You clearly just forgot about the game. No accountability.
Imagine if like they just forgot to play the game.
Speaker 1
Roger Goodell would come out and say, say, hey, the team should have showed up, but this is on me. I'm the face of the league.
I'm the commissioner.
Speaker 1 So if New England and the Giants last night just forgot to play the game,
Speaker 1 you don't think Roger Goodell speaks today if they just forgot to play the game of saying this will never happen again in my league. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 This is crazy.
Speaker 1
He's about to blame. No, Greg.
Greg doesn't need to.
Speaker 3 He's going to blame Waze again. He was mad at me.
Speaker 1
He was mad at me for not telling the other team. So now he's blaming other teams in the league.
Hey, did you make your pick? Yes. Okay.
Speaker 1
Two of the three teams that did not make their their pick were the Giraffes and the Ferraris, who live under your roof. Did you ever think.
Why are you like, it's not my responsibility.
Speaker 1
You always tell us not to talk to each other about our picks. Okay, you're passing.
You're just take a little accountability. It was a bad look for the PFBI.
Look, I don't,
Speaker 1
I, I, what do I have to wipe the ass of my teams? Just say, hey, bad look for the league. This is my league.
I'm the face. No, no.
See, look at this. No accountability.
Speaker 1 I would wipe the ass of my team any day, twice on Saturday. I said your hand was up his back.
Speaker 1
No accountability from the league. I don't like that from you, though.
Anybody else can say you? I don't like that. No accountability from the lunch.
Speaker 1
I forfeited a win for the three malcontents, the three narratives who refused to make the Friday pay. Just take a little accountability.
In Greg's defense. Literally out to lunch.
Speaker 1
That Black Friday game does. You out to lunch? It does sneak up on you, but it's also not the NFL's first Black Friday day.
Yeah. I believe it's the third.
Speaker 1
Right, so maybe you should have been on that. I'm sorry.
This is a new tradition for me. Got out early.
A little more than three years from the bottom.
Speaker 3 I got surprised by it on
Speaker 1
3 p.m. It's a weird story.
Black Friday is a college football day. Out to lunch.
Colorado versus Nebraska.
Speaker 3 It's an Egg Bowl day. It's been an Egg Bowl day for a long time.
Speaker 1
Take a little accountability. How about you run for the commissioner? It's your league.
You run for commissioners. If I was commissioner, I would have been like, hey, bad look for the league.
Speaker 1
This won't happen again. It's a bad look for the three people who missed the pick.
Look at this.
Speaker 1 I don't take any responsibility. It's not a bad look for the league.
Speaker 1
It's the team members' responsibility to make their own picks on time. And you know it.
You got you. But every other week, you're on top of it.
He got your he got your ass chris it's over it's over
Speaker 3 the fight
Speaker 1 and you know it and you're you're finished we put it on the poll is it black friday without colorado nebraska uh also put it on the poll and you know it yes or no
Speaker 3 he got lost on the way to the office the studio and i did not get lost i was derailed five minutes how can you say you were not lost you took a couple of wrong turns not even one you took a couple
Speaker 1 that's lost what What do you mean? Nobody had known if you hadn't betrayed my privacy by exposing
Speaker 1 private
Speaker 3 knew it because you were late.
Speaker 3 You were late by 30 minutes because you got lost.
Speaker 1 We were fashionably late.
Speaker 5
Like that. Miami time, we call it Greg.
We call it Miami time.
Speaker 1
Plus, down here in downtown, it's a lot of one-way streets. You think you're going to be able to go one way? You can't.
You got to go up two streets and make a right to then make a left.
Speaker 1
Exactly. All of a sudden, there's a fire truck.
You're like, where the hell did this come from? And then the Waze lady is telling me to to take a U-turn. It's a lady, huh?
Speaker 1
And I don't want to take a U-turn. Wow, okay.
So I am purposely rejecting her advice. And I continue to go for four or five miles until she continues to say the U-turn.
So finally, I relent.
Speaker 3 It's not Waze's fault if she's telling you what to do and you're not doing it.
Speaker 1 I always had Waze's four or five miles.
Speaker 1
Now it makes sense. No, Zaz, don't do that.
Don't do what? Come on, stop. We know what you're doing.
Come on.
Speaker 1 Come on, boy.
Speaker 1
Greg's the one who put it out there. I'm just backing him up.
Okay. Thank you.
Cook Daddy.
Speaker 1
I appreciate that. Thank you, Zaz.
Always on my side. Zazzlo.
Speaker 1 I don't think you're following me. That's not true at all.
Speaker 3 I have failed to get to the Miami Heat today, who had six blocks in
Speaker 1 the first quarter.
Speaker 3 The Clippers look so old. They're playing so slow in the half-court.
Speaker 1 I think they have their pick.
Speaker 3 Kawhi hadn't played in 10 games and then was on a minutes restriction. Not just that pick.
Speaker 3 You've got the very - listen to what's going to happen in this league because it's about to get ruined if Oklahoma City stays healthy it's worse than when the Warriors had the rant they've lost one game and their point differential through 20 they're winning by an average of 15 points without playing their starters and
Speaker 3 they might get the number one pick and they've got Philly's pick too they might get they're gonna have three picks in the lottery they might have two picks wait a minute three I only had I thought they might have two picks in the top five if Philadelphia is bad enough is Philadelphia protected top three I think maybe I they
Speaker 3 the OKC is in a position where they might have through 20 games the best team anyone's ever seen.
Speaker 1 20 and 1.
Speaker 3 The defending champions have the best team anyone's ever seen statistically through 20 games. They're winning by an average.
Speaker 3 Go look at the point differentials in the East and look at what OKC's point differential is because they're at 15 points a game. They're winning while not playing their fourth quarter starters.
Speaker 3 And they might have the first pick and the fifth pick because the Clippers are so dreadful.
Speaker 1
Look how happy he's at. It's just funny.
It's just a funny thing. They're 20 and 1.
They might also have the number one overall pick. Not funny.
Speaker 1 The one thing they don't have, though, is Davion Mitchell.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 3 Davion Mitchell?
Speaker 1 Top five-point card in the Eastern.
Speaker 3 I mean, he's making threes and he doesn't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 You know about that off-night?
Speaker 1 He's got 30 more points from Norman Powell.
Speaker 5 The L's at the end, I don't know if those are.
Speaker 1 No?
Speaker 1 30 more from Norman Powell.
Speaker 1
It's like a superhero. He's not Norman Powell.
He's Norman Powell.
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