Local Hour: Polluting the Holiday Spirit (feat. Definitely Not Tony or Rose)

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Speaker 17 Devontae Smith was the last Heisman Trophy winner to have been alive when they had most recently awarded the Heisman Trophy at the Downtown Athletic Club.

Speaker 20 Today's not the day for that, Mike. It's just, you know, it's not funny.
I came in today and I said hello to him.

Speaker 20 And the first thing I said is, I'm still wearing yesterday's mistake of not knowing that the downtown athletic club hadn't hosted the Heisman for a quarter century. And that's how you start this.

Speaker 20 Mike, 25 years, Dan. This is not the day to do this to me.
It's not. I've got the holiday parties coming up.
I'm stressed out about that. We've got too many people in town.

Speaker 20 Jason, the director, can't get anyone to work with him. And Tony bailed on him at the last minute.

Speaker 20 Rose wouldn't sing for him.

Speaker 20 We've got office chaos here, and you're hitting me in a vulnerable spot. That's a bad mistake.
I'm lashing out.

Speaker 23 It's been two weeks since we've talked Miami Hurricanes football.

Speaker 25 There was some, not to spoil it, there's some rapping involved.

Speaker 25 Not rapping, like gift wrapping, like RAPP in this year's intro. And Tony felt that his cool card might get taken away if he did it.

Speaker 27 He was worried about the internet?

Speaker 25 Little peek behind the curtain.

Speaker 26 Dog, I fed the couch two weeks ago.

Speaker 26 Let's hear out the old and and ring the new

Speaker 26 training, over,

Speaker 26 turning, over. Holidays are backtracked, drop a new track.

Speaker 26 Here with an audio almanac. We said bye-bye, Billy, and that was whack.

Speaker 28 When will Stew come back? You know about that Thai food, lips fly mood. Seslow is a wild dude.

Speaker 13 Nice hat soul, I got the scoop. Salute Juju Gotty with the alley ooh.

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When Christmas is up, he says,

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Speaker 10 Let's start the show.

Speaker 10 I eat it and then you

Speaker 10 turn it over.

Speaker 10 Turn it over.

Speaker 10 We got Pablo Vocal modulating. Amin's been weekend observating.
Connor McD's McGloveratin. Again, the Panthers took that out.
So let's give it to Dan, cause his name's on the show.

Speaker 8 And hand it to Mike, cause he happened to to know.

Speaker 29 To pass me the ball like Stafford to Puka.

Speaker 13 So please tell me

Speaker 13 happy Chinooko.

Speaker 20 So they might bench Tua, but I got to get to the office politics. That was a lovely open.
Welcome to Trista and Juju, Alioop. We love having them around during the holiday season.

Speaker 20 And I want them to legislate some things going on around here because no one wanted to participate with

Speaker 20 Jason in the making of that open.

Speaker 20 No one, Tony bailed on him, made him rewrite the whole thing. Made Jason rewrite the whole thing because Tony bailed at the last minute because it was going to hurt his cool quotient.

Speaker 20 And then Rose, he wrote it for Rose. And then Rose bailed at the last minute as well.
And then they forced Ethan to do it. And I see that Ethan was on the cutting room floor as far as I can tell.

Speaker 20 I didn't see Ethan, which I was grateful for. I didn't see Ethan anywhere in that open.
Maybe he was a Santa or something.

Speaker 20 I saw Jason as an elf embarrassing himself as an elf because no one would participate with him. So Trista, please legislate this.

Speaker 20 We've got a judge in our midst, but tell me what it is that I should be doing here where Jason's trying very hard to pollute this place with the holiday spirit and no one wants it.

Speaker 33 I think you need to just force them, really. Like indentured servitude.
I said to Juju, I said, this song goes hard. I mean, this I would like an MP3 of this.
Are we still doing MP3?

Speaker 20 No one wanted to rap.

Speaker 20 Juju, Tony wants to look cool instead of actually being cool.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I think Tony has to really suffer the consequences of this one because if you're not going to be a team player, no matter how embarrassing it is you got to do it now

Speaker 34 neither here nor there this may have been sent to me as well and they may have asked me to rap on this of course they did and i don't do ghostwriters

Speaker 20 but what about what about rose like rose rose loves to sing rose has the biggest banger we've got people competing around here all the time to sing songs That wasn't Rose singing?

Speaker 36 That was. Rose did do the ghost.

Speaker 37 She did the hook.

Speaker 38 And for the record, that was Ethan, a Santa.

Speaker 20 But Ethan was only participating in the video because Tony and Rose didn't want to look however that was going to look on video. They were embarrassed by what Jason was going to make.

Speaker 20 What Metal Arc was making was too embarrassing for cool Rose and Tony.

Speaker 33 I think this thing should have won a Golden Globe.

Speaker 20 It was pretty good.

Speaker 34 Okay, we're going to start you off with $2 on the Golden Globe.

Speaker 27 I'm not eligible.

Speaker 39 Although podcasts are now eligible for Golden Globes.

Speaker 33 Or a short. What is it? The Shorties, the Webbies? It needs a Webby award.

Speaker 20 I don't know if you guys have heard Rose's original classic, and I will get to the University of Miami. I don't think I have.

Speaker 20 You haven't heard? Rose got pepper sprayed at Ohio State.

Speaker 20 And it sounded, that sound he's making is Rose. That's the sound she made on the field.

Speaker 28 It was actually on the field. We can

Speaker 25 play her classic an hour too. How about that?

Speaker 20 Okay, yeah, because we've got to monetize it.

Speaker 37 All right, we'll play it for Zazla.

Speaker 20 We'll sit around and play it for Zazla. I need to know what to do about Jason, though.
I like Christmas carols, okay? Are you guys singers? Do you guys sing around the house?

Speaker 20 Did your family sing growing up? Because the only time I saw my family sing ever in the house was Christmas carols. There was no other song in my house.

Speaker 33 I might have sung at Carnegie Hall.

Speaker 19 It's a flex.

Speaker 34 All right. Look at me, Louise.

Speaker 33 At 11 or 12.

Speaker 10 I've sung at 11. In a group.

Speaker 36 Look at me, Louis.

Speaker 40 I've sung We Are the Champions at 11 at the top of my lungs.

Speaker 34 I sound the national anthem yesterday in the shower because when somebody in here has to sing the national anthem song, so I was singing, what do I have here?

Speaker 11 And I got nothing.

Speaker 20 juju you did the national anthem and not lift every voice and sing that's very off-brand i don't tell anybody so juju simply refused to participate as well did they not ask you because aslo would have done it i okay so all those people you mentioned said no

Speaker 45 and then they came to me and i did it that was me also so far all the people he's mentioned but tony were involved But I did it.

Speaker 6 I did the rap.

Speaker 20 Rose refused.

Speaker 28 She's singing all over the track. She's the lead voice.

Speaker 29 Tony and Juju, you got it.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Everybody else that you're saying didn't do it is in it.

Speaker 34 See, I do music. You feel me? I'd be rapping.
And so that just didn't go with the aesthetics of what I usually put out. You feel me?

Speaker 20 I am told that we now have the video.

Speaker 20 We can't play the audio because it's a song, but here is Lucy and Rose. Rose was pepper sprayed.
She made a honking goose sound. And I believe Lucy was laughing nearby.

Speaker 20 Oh, no.

Speaker 20 The pepper for them. Oh no.

Speaker 20 Unfortunately, the honk was a separate audience.

Speaker 46 Oh, look, there it is.

Speaker 20 You'll have to take my word for it. She honked.

Speaker 20 It's not AI altered.

Speaker 20 Mike, have you been dining on Texas AM podcasts?

Speaker 14 Listen to everyone, including one that is 100% AI.

Speaker 15 You can tell by how they say concepsi, own.

Speaker 20 That is the giveaway so far on all AI. He's going to enter the NFL draft.

Speaker 37 You enjoy that?

Speaker 49 I love previewing opponents by listening to what the enemy says.

Speaker 15 This is

Speaker 11 imagine Department of War, pal.

Speaker 17 I got to do advanced scouts.

Speaker 38 I got to see.

Speaker 18 I'm real worried because they're mentioning that Chris Bell route against us in that Louisville game.

Speaker 19 I'm like, damn, they know.

Speaker 20 Yeah, Chris Bell, a first-round pick who is now injured.

Speaker 20 He was injured against SMU, and people are degrading Miami's schedule because they lost to Louisville, but that's a first-round pick, and Miami couldn't cover him because no one can.

Speaker 20 And he got hurt, and Louisville got hurt. But as we dissect who's good and who's not in a football landscape, pro and college, where we're being confused by like, who's the best, actually?

Speaker 20 I think this first-round game is the only first-round game that features two balanced enough teams that if either of them lost, I'll still say that could have been a champion.

Speaker 20 That's the only, like, you got bogus James

Speaker 20 Madison and Oregon over here, and you got Mississippi playing.

Speaker 37 Oregon.

Speaker 21 Thank you, Trista.

Speaker 36 And it's Lul. I'm a duck.

Speaker 15 I didn't want to do that to you because it's been a shaky start, but we let the Lulule think.

Speaker 20 Why do you think it was a shaky start?

Speaker 11 You downtown Athletic Club. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 8 What kind of producer?

Speaker 20 What do you mean it doesn't have anything to do with you?

Speaker 11 Well, we got to call it out.

Speaker 36 I came in.

Speaker 20 I came in saying that I was still wounded 24 hours later. Zaslow's soothing me last night because I'm still, I'm still.

Speaker 20 Yeah, he's texting me soothing balm. Just, Dan, it wasn't that terrible to me.
I was not bad. You weren't that terrible.

Speaker 8 He was bad.

Speaker 45 He was bad. You got to hold it.

Speaker 37 You got to speak truth to power, man.

Speaker 20 So you decided that the way to start the show today and produce me when I've got Jason in the other room giving everybody bad ideas they don't want to do,

Speaker 20 that actually turned into a very good song because yet he's talented. And we can dance around.

Speaker 20 We could dance around. And if all we got to do is dance around in costumes, yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 33 It's just like Portland by the ice

Speaker 8 center.

Speaker 24 I'm lashing out.

Speaker 51 This is, as you said, two teams playing for a CFP spot here.

Speaker 14 Winner gets the defending national champion.

Speaker 16 It's the biggest game in Miami in their last, well, since they last handed out the Heisman Trophy at the downtown athletic club.

Speaker 5 I just can't believe that there's a time in the day where you say, you know, I have a little bit of free time right now, and you know what I'm going to do?

Speaker 43 I'm going to listen to a Texas A ⁇ M podcast.

Speaker 8 Get them.

Speaker 4 There was a Cuban on one of them.

Speaker 20 Okay, they're going into a cult, okay? This is a difficult place to play. The people that surround both huddles are weirdos, all of them.
They're chanting weirdos. It's got a weird

Speaker 20 communal feeling of they speak a language no one else does. And this is a better team, I think, a more balanced team than any of the ones Menzel was on.

Speaker 20 And I think this team has enough athletes on it all over. And I know I sound gasbagging when I tell you, Texas Tech is really good.
And Texas A ⁇ M is also really good.

Speaker 20 They've got athletes all over the field. I don't know how they get down 30-3 to South Carolina at the half, but I'm assuming it's because Marcel Reed was inaccurate.
He can be shaken.

Speaker 20 They've got nothing but running backs that average five yards of carry. Marcel Reed is very good, and he presents a problem they haven't had this season.
A good team with a quarterback that can move.

Speaker 20 Like, he's their second-leading rusher.

Speaker 20 He's really good moving the ball down the field, but he can be inaccurate. He can be picked off.

Speaker 20 And I don't know if you guys think in today's college football that 10 interceptions is a lot, but it's one a game.

Speaker 20 And in this kind of game between two teams that are pretty equal, the way Miami lost to Louisville is Louisville had three great interceptions,

Speaker 20 but it's four interceptions that Carson, that's how they'll lose.

Speaker 20 Miami's got offensive line, an offensive line that is as good protecting the quarterback. And

Speaker 20 they were not a good run blocking team up the middle because the coaches were stubborn all season.

Speaker 30 That's a good offensive line.

Speaker 20 And Texas A ⁇ M, I don't think, has played a lot of those. They lost to the team they did play.

Speaker 20 Texas had a good offensive line.

Speaker 16 Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 27 Athletes.

Speaker 20 They didn't protect Arch Manning well, but athletes across the board.

Speaker 14 So macro view, these are two teams that I think based on form are kind of headed in opposite directions.

Speaker 14 You can argue Texas A ⁇ M is playing their worst football of the year right now, and you can certainly make a sound argument that Miami is playing their best football right now.

Speaker 17 Dan mentioned the mobile quarterbacks.

Speaker 32 They haven't hurt Miami.

Speaker 41 Miami has done a real good job against the mobile quarterbacks on their schedule. They've contained them, and that's exactly what they have to do with Marcel Reed.

Speaker 53 If he breaks contain, he will hurt you with his feet.

Speaker 41 You actually want this guy to sit in a pocket.

Speaker 32 The more he is forced into that pocket and make Reeds against a zone, the more likely he is to throw an interception.

Speaker 38 People make a big deal out of Carson Beck's proclivity to turn the ball over.

Speaker 26 Marcel Reed has had more interceptible passes than Carson Beck has had this season.

Speaker 53 I think if you're watching the Texas game, the lesson to learn from that is sit back and make them matriculate down the field.

Speaker 17 Don't let these guys get into man coverage because they have really, they have three really dangerous receivers.

Speaker 18 And once they get the ball in their hands, if they shake the first defender, they can house call it.

Speaker 14 So just sit back and zone and be patient with it.

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Speaker 43 So I saw them in person once this year, Tex AM. I was at the LSU game, and I thought they were really good.
But I think it's also important to point out, man,

Speaker 43 they kind of got lucky with their SEC schedule.

Speaker 44 Like, you look at,

Speaker 43 they didn't play any of the teams in the top half of the conference except for Texas, who they lost to, and all seven of their wins are literally the bottom half of the conference.

Speaker 43 It's Arkansas, South Carolina, sneaky decent Mississippi State, Florida, LSU, Missouri.

Speaker 11 Those are all of their SEC wins.

Speaker 19 They've played a lot of bad quarterbacks this season.

Speaker 41 And I will say from a size perspective, even though this is a really aggressive team, they're really good on the blitz.

Speaker 17 Owens is good.

Speaker 15 They don't have the same size that the Jimbo teams had.

Speaker 16 I think this is a line of scrimmage game, strength on strength, patience.

Speaker 27 And I actually, it's not more complicated than get the ball in the hands of Malachi Tony.

Speaker 49 They have a veteran nickel corner that I don't think can hang with Malachi running with him.

Speaker 17 So outside runs and Malachi Tony is the recipe here.

Speaker 20 Chris Cody, can you help me with a couple of things? There are two questions I have for you right now.

Speaker 20 Amin has appeared out of nowhere. He's on the show today.
Why is he late again?

Speaker 25 Coming from Vegas, baby.

Speaker 56 Okay,

Speaker 20 that's one thing. I've got one issue over there.
The other issue I have is: why does Mike Ryan, who is wearing a coach's assistant jumpsuit to represent the University of Miami?

Speaker 20 Why does he go into full coach speak when, after listening to this Texas A ⁇ M pods where he's like, well, we got to

Speaker 60 matriculate the ball down the field?

Speaker 13 You're right.

Speaker 41 I'm asking.

Speaker 8 For us and the audience.

Speaker 20 We got to house call it. We got to show patience.
We got to control the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 14 This is you making fun of me.

Speaker 20 You got me rattled because how you started the show. You started the show.
That's a rough start. You started the show.

Speaker 4 Now, come on. You're owning me.
Let's go.

Speaker 23 Keep dunking on me.

Speaker 20 Why is it that you go into full coach speak when you're talking about this football game?

Speaker 14 Why is it that when I give 10 seconds of analysis, the only analysis allowed here on the show in the last two weeks, it becomes boring coach speak?

Speaker 39 That's actually really good nuggets.

Speaker 16 Most people in our audience don't know that Marcel Reed is more inclined to throw an interception than Carson Beck.

Speaker 37 I'm trying to provide a path here for victory for our Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker 27 And yes, I said our Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker 32 It's the biggest game in 20 years.

Speaker 20 You better start acting like it.

Speaker 25 I think he's saying when you look like a coach, it just sounds like coach speak.

Speaker 43 How do you even decide which Texas A ⁇ M podcast you're going to listen to?

Speaker 36 All of them.

Speaker 4 That's how I know one of them is 100% AI.

Speaker 20 Concepcion, what's his nationality? Puerto Rican.

Speaker 46 Really good player.

Speaker 15 Hurt us a lot when he was at NC State as a freshman.

Speaker 32 They got Craver, Bethel Roman, and Concepcion, who's going to be a first-round pick.

Speaker 23 They're just dynamite with the ball in their hands.

Speaker 20 Five yards of carry from all their running backs. Marcel Reed is their second leading rusher.

Speaker 14 They'll get Le'Veon Moss back, though. That's the expectation.
And he's their big power back.

Speaker 17 Miami struggled when Florida handed the ball to their power back in that one good looking drive that they had. Moss makes it a lot easier.

Speaker 38 There's Ruben Owens who likes to talk his crap and we have sound of that. Credit to the Miami Hurricanes and Mario Cristobal because they haven't given teams any bulletin board material this year.

Speaker 38 They've been very respectful of the opponent.

Speaker 48 This is now the second time that we've heard a Texas A ⁇ M Aggie kind of give Miami some motivation.

Speaker 62 I wouldn't say as much as much as a challenge. I know my guys.

Speaker 62 They're ready for the challenge.

Speaker 62 It's been like that a couple games, Mizzou game. They said it was a good run defense.

Speaker 62 We put up over 200 rushing yards.

Speaker 49 Yeah, well, Mizzou was ranked 17th nationally.

Speaker 2 They got fat off of bad teams.

Speaker 18 They never beat a good one.

Speaker 49 And Miami's seventh nationally against the run.

Speaker 44 I'll tell you,

Speaker 43 I think what's going to play a role, the Kanes have not played in an atmosphere like this all season long.

Speaker 5 That's fair.

Speaker 43 Like the ACC,

Speaker 43 SMU is different from Caulfield.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 30 All right. I've been to both.

Speaker 27 And

Speaker 43 there's over 70,000, which, by the way, 70,000 is like tiny for an SEC stadium because obviously.

Speaker 24 No, it's 110,000.

Speaker 8 That's what.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Miami has not played in front of

Speaker 41 more than 70,000 people this season.

Speaker 37 Oh, that's okay. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 27 Thank you.

Speaker 54 So I will say, in terms of having been to both stadiums.

Speaker 37 Thank you.

Speaker 11 Cow Field is

Speaker 27 super intimidating.

Speaker 38 It's super loud.

Speaker 16 It's awe-inspiring.

Speaker 27 Like, there's levels upon levels as far as the eye can see.

Speaker 11 It's a pretty cool thing.

Speaker 29 It's a cult.

Speaker 20 It's a cult. It's 100,000 chanting people in the middle of nowhere amid some tumbleweed.

Speaker 48 No, you're not going to believe what I'm going to tell you right now because SMU's stadium is at like a 32,000 capacity stadium.

Speaker 45 But what they were doing in the first half with blasting the music to the point that the offense had to wait till it stopped, that was so illegal that it had to stop in the second half, is quite literally the loudest thing I've ever heard inside of a stadium.

Speaker 37 And I've been to Kyle Field.

Speaker 20 I believe that most of the people listening to this think that this is homerific analysis on the University of Miami, when I keep telling you that's a team with athletes that can win a championship among the, you know, top teams in the sport if we're going to play random ball with kids, right?

Speaker 20 They're kids and they make a lot of mistakes and you don't trust teenagers to be responsible with much of anything.

Speaker 20 But Miami has a game breaker in Tony who throws the ball as well, better than any non-quarterback they've ever had so they're going to use him in multiple ways but you've been following

Speaker 20 you've been traveling to these places Mike's been screaming at the top of his lungs the SEC is fraudulent all of it but this is the cream of the SEC it's not Alabama and Oklahoma and when this team is the cream of the SEC feeding on a conference that is a lot weaker than people understand a lot weaker.

Speaker 20 It's in disguise. This is not the SEC you remember.
Alabama and Oklahoma are shells of what those programs have been been the last 10 years.

Speaker 20 Texas A ⁇ M is the top of the conference, but Miami's got a chance to expose the entire conference if they physically drag this team that was down 27 at South Carolina.

Speaker 20 And then when it went to Texas and played the team that lost at Florida,

Speaker 20 a Texas team that is very physical, they got their ass kicked by a bad, not a bad Texas team, but a Texas team that did not deserve to be in the playoffs.

Speaker 43 Like, I know what you're saying about Alabama and Oklahoma.

Speaker 43 Oklahoma, I'm not so high. I'm not so sure that Alabama and Oklahoma are not just as good as Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 44 Like Oklahoma and Alabama have really good SEC wins on their resume.

Speaker 20 Texas A ⁇ M doesn't. What did you make of them being down 30-3 at the half against South Carolina?

Speaker 49 And it's crazy because the key to the game for South Carolina was, quote, get off to a good start.

Speaker 15 which is right up there with my favorite keys to the game behind don't get hurt.

Speaker 26 Yeah, you want to get off to a good start because it's a football game.

Speaker 38 South Carolina stinks, and I think that's the takeaway is how do you let South Carolina get off to that kind of lead?

Speaker 20 So when people are listening to this and we're telling them Miami can win the championship, Miami's good enough

Speaker 20 to win the championship, but also

Speaker 20 this is the toughest first-round game there is in terms of two teams that you think could actually win the championship.

Speaker 20 But you guys are making me rethink my position on what I've thought Texas A ⁇ M is all year

Speaker 20 because when I've watched Texas A ⁇ M at the beginning of the year, not toward the end, when they were playing less well, I saw an offense because of what they did to LSU and others that can run a bunch of athletes off the field.

Speaker 20 Like it's the last two games that I've watched of Texas A ⁇ M where I'm like, okay, well, wait, did I get it wrong?

Speaker 15 It's a cliche, but playing your best ball at the right time of the season is a real thing.

Speaker 38 We saw it with Notre Dame last year,

Speaker 52 how they were building the crescendo.

Speaker 49 That's another thing that people that I know have gone back and watched a Texas A ⁇ M game at Notre Dame. It's a common opponent.

Speaker 49 Miami had the benefit of playing them at home where Texas AM in an impressive fashion went to South Bend.

Speaker 30 If you watch that game, mad flukey.

Speaker 46 Notre Dame dropped two picks and one of the more egregious holding calls that didn't get called led to that game tying and then go ensuing PAT

Speaker 14 opportunity that helped Texas A ⁇ M hand Notre Dame their second loss.

Speaker 18 Miami probably doesn't get into the college football playoff if they call that holding, by the way, in South Bend.

Speaker 28 Oh, look at that.

Speaker 31 Call that holding back in South Bend.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I think that that was more impactful on Miami's playoff chances than anything because it gives Notre Dame one loss.

Speaker 23 You don't have that head-to-head advantage there.

Speaker 18 And a two-loss Texas A ⁇ M gets in over a two-loss Miami.

Speaker 20 The people who are listening are only hearing homerism here, right? Thinking that Miami could win the champions.

Speaker 20 Thinking that Miami can win the championship because we've watched this team all year and we've also seen them lose to SMU.

Speaker 27 And you're the one that's applying that homer take.

Speaker 15 I haven't said that.

Speaker 4 I'll let you stand on that island.

Speaker 38 Miami's got the toughest path to a title.

Speaker 37 They got to go through Texas AM in Kyle Field. They got to play a cotton bowl against Ohio State and potentially a fiesta ball against Georgia.
I wish there was a different path here.

Speaker 17 I'm not exactly sure why Ole Miss was ranked ahead of Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 14 I'd feel much better about that game, but I'm excited about this.

Speaker 37 And I don't think I've been super homerific here.

Speaker 17 Just telling you what it is.

Speaker 41 We respect the opponent over here.

Speaker 20 You're scared of the venue. You're not scared of the team.

Speaker 39 Not even that scared of the venue,

Speaker 27 haven't been there.

Speaker 41 It's just really impressive.

Speaker 14 But the people are super nice. It's not like they get drunk off their ass and are vile people to you.

Speaker 39 I'm staying in College Station again.

Speaker 4 I happen to find the area really nice.

Speaker 30 It's like any cult.

Speaker 14 They're super nice because they want you to join.

Speaker 20 Just to backtrack for a moment, because I don't think that people sort of realize the history of this program. And Kevin Sumlin and Johnny Menzel made

Speaker 20 the previous incarnations of Texas AM that had fewer expectations, I think, than this one, right? Because when Menzel beats Alabama and Sabin, you still weren't expecting them to win the championship.

Speaker 20 This is the realest chance that Texas AM has had for a championship since blank, right? This is the best Texas AM team.

Speaker 20 I mean, they gave Jimbo Fisher so much money, and he didn't produce a team, didn't produce a quarterback or a team as good as this one.

Speaker 43 Yeah, this team's only lost.

Speaker 5 It's the final game of the season.

Speaker 23 It's probably the, that's a fine, Trista. Welcome aboard.

Speaker 11 This is pretty.

Speaker 33 It was on Do Not Disturb.

Speaker 24 I don't don't know what happened.

Speaker 26 Well, it disturbed.

Speaker 16 This is probably the second most talented Texas A ⁇ M team.

Speaker 14 I'm pretty sure there was a Texas A ⁇ M team with Mike Evans, Johnny Menzel, and Miles Garrett on it.

Speaker 48 But because of the college. Jesus.

Speaker 38 Because of the expanded college football playoff.

Speaker 37 Monitor penalty, two minutes.

Speaker 3 Delay a show.

Speaker 20 Yeah. You're going to have to leave.
Trista.

Speaker 10 I'm sorry to do this to you.

Speaker 17 You're just going to have to go.

Speaker 15 She just said, where is it? You'll figure it out. Yeah.

Speaker 20 Just wander around. Walk past the mean.

Speaker 27 If you want, you you can tag him in.

Speaker 20 Yeah, if you want, that's fine. We can use some of the mean.

Speaker 41 I do think that whoever wins this game is going to be kind of a sexy pick to upset Ohio State.

Speaker 27 I'm not there.

Speaker 36 God, that shit would be so sad.

Speaker 16 I'm not there with being in Ohio State.

Speaker 27 I don't know if this team has to be.

Speaker 20 It's only happening because you just saw Indiana do it.

Speaker 20 And Indiana's got like this thing that they're doing where no one will believe it is champion until after it is champion, just because it's Indiana. Like,

Speaker 43 how bad do you want Miami to win this weekend? Not because you obviously want them to win the national championship, but man, you so badly just want them to play Ohio State.

Speaker 36 That'd be great.

Speaker 30 That'd be great.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 32 I mean, you know me.

Speaker 27 Miami Hurricanes are my life.

Speaker 4 I want to win this game so bad.

Speaker 20 You're taking them one at a time, though. Don't get to that one yet.
You're taking them one at a time.

Speaker 47 No, you want to

Speaker 20 matriculate down the field.

Speaker 57 No, I don't give the opposing team bulletin board material.

Speaker 20 Amin, welcome. There was a big NBA story last night.
The Knicks won something meaningful. I think it's time for us to shift into regional programming.

Speaker 13 WFA team.

Speaker 20 The Knicks haven't felt this good in a while because the East is weak, although I think they'd have problems against Detroit and Orlando and Toronto.

Speaker 20 But the Knicks haven't felt this good about a team in a long time because they also like the players, because they've fallen in love with Carl Anthony Towns, even when they hate him sometimes.

Speaker 20 And Jalen Brunson is the most beloved Knick of my lifetime.

Speaker 21 Well, not of your lifetime. Hold on.

Speaker 46 The most beloved Nick.

Speaker 36 How old do you think you are?

Speaker 20 Oh, beyond Patrick Ewing.

Speaker 47 Who are you putting above him?

Speaker 16 Downtown Athletic Club days.

Speaker 15 There were some popular Knicks players.

Speaker 20 No, I mean, the way that I hear the most obnoxious of New York fans talk about Jalen Brunson, they never talked about Carmella this way.

Speaker 20 They never talked about Ewing this way. Who are you putting above him in my lifetime?

Speaker 21 Cloud Frazier. Yeah, Cloud Frazier.
Frazier. Ewing.

Speaker 20 Okay, but I didn't want to.

Speaker 21 You said your lifetime.

Speaker 8 You put that person.

Speaker 17 I'm sincerely asking, because I was much more of an NBA fan in the 90s.

Speaker 14 Do you think Brunson is at Ewing level?

Speaker 20 I think a lot of people disliked Ewing.

Speaker 37 Ewing got a ton of heat.

Speaker 38 I know he got a ton of heat, but at the height of his popularity.

Speaker 20 Brunson gets no heat. Brunson is just loved.

Speaker 21 That's a good point. Brunson gets

Speaker 21 whatever the number is, whatever the ratings are, Brunson is like a 100% or damn near close. It's nice today.
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Speaker 21 If Daniel Day-Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

Speaker 11 Oh, come on.

Speaker 50 Yeah, I would be.

Speaker 8 Aggressive description.

Speaker 20 I mean, what is it? What is that?

Speaker 21 I'm just saying.

Speaker 36 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 36 Just saying what? That's me.

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Speaker 50 I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do?

Speaker 42 I mean, Stugats.

Speaker 11 I jerk off all over myself.

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Speaker 25 A couple playoff exits for Brunson, right? And that heat will turn up, no?

Speaker 21 But here's the weird part. I think to this point, he still has a little bit of the Teflon where a couple of playoff exits like last year.
That was a disappointment.

Speaker 21 You were supposed to beat the Pacers. How many people said, it's because Brunson wasn't good enough for me.

Speaker 28 Oh, but

Speaker 20 when you say to this point, like this part's super interesting to me when it comes to popularity and the difficulty of having it in New York. Like, this is super simple basketball stuff.

Speaker 20 Ewing was a giant. Brunson is small.

Speaker 20 And they just love the grittiness of that guy represents us. Look, it's 10 points every first quarter.
And in the fourth quarter, he's going to be efficient. And how does he do it? I don't understand.

Speaker 20 He's tiny.

Speaker 20 And ewing was the number one pick where brunson was like wow i can't believe we gave him this much money oh my god he's okay takes a discount so that we can keep getting better carl anthony towns has never been more popular even though you know if he missed misses his next six shots they'll they'll turn on him quickly because he's big right so to answer chris's question if the knicks get knocked out early or don't achieve Towns is first on that list well before they get to

Speaker 21 bridges because we gave up five first-round picks for you.

Speaker 21 He has so many layers of insulation. Mike Brown is on that list before he gets there.
Brunson is pretty, to your point, Dan, he's pretty damn popular.

Speaker 21 But when I think about Walt Frazier, a winner, right?

Speaker 13 When did Walton

Speaker 10 play?

Speaker 8 When did he stop playing?

Speaker 21 In the 80s, but the early 80s,

Speaker 27 Jalen Brunson, winner.

Speaker 21 Well, not like Walt Frazier. I mean, he's got James.

Speaker 10 Hang the banner.

Speaker 21 Well, Frazier had two. How about that? Okay.

Speaker 21 But then the the other part of this you have to understand, Frazier

Speaker 21 was culture beyond the game. So it wasn't just, oh, he's a great player for the Knicks.
It's like, this guy's cool. He's dressing cool.
He's got the suede pumas, da-da-da.

Speaker 21 And then, because Frazier stayed around as a broadcaster, still showing up dressing flamboyantly, he's become like the mascot who stayed.

Speaker 21 And for that reason, he is still beloved and still kind of respected, even among people who were, you know, born decades after he played for the Knicks.

Speaker 20 Fair enough. I stand corrected.
I don't know what year Clyde Frazier stopped playing, but it was before I started watching basketball.

Speaker 11 Like, I didn't start watching.

Speaker 20 Well, I, oh, wow, that's judgy. I get there to my, I get there in my teenage years, and it's unacceptable to you.
I'm a casual because I've merely been following it half a century.

Speaker 18 You didn't have league pass back then. I mean,

Speaker 22 I mean, the Miami Heat weren't around.

Speaker 20 That's, is this an indictment of me that I started watching basketball after Clyde Frazier?

Speaker 43 You know, watch watch a highlights, you know?

Speaker 8 From New York, New Jersey.

Speaker 18 The Sports Center wasn't around, guys.

Speaker 20 Okay, give me all the Clyde Frazier expertise I have in the room, non-amine division.

Speaker 24 Nah, just for men commercials for me.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Boom.

Speaker 20 Did he wear goldfish in his shoes, or was that somebody else? Like, was that a...

Speaker 21 That was, I'm going to get you sucker.

Speaker 8 This happened, bro.

Speaker 34 We got to find this man. That was literally, I'm going to get you sucker.

Speaker 20 No, no, there wasn't. There was absolutely a, there's absolutely a basketball player who's done this.
Somebody will support me in the audience. You have this wrong.
I do not have this wrong.

Speaker 36 This is not me conflating.

Speaker 8 I'm oddly confident for you, given the week you've had.

Speaker 20 Again, with this.

Speaker 21 Can we talk about this happening today's show? And I know it's off to a rough star, whatever, but you turned into porky pig and nobody said anything.

Speaker 28 Oh, we said things.

Speaker 21 No, you got to just let them just got to roll with it.

Speaker 20 Do you have for me, can you cut that up, Chris, me getting stuck on matriculated? Have you guys cut that up yet?

Speaker 21 The only part that was missing, Dan, was you needed to go...

Speaker 21 Signed up.

Speaker 21 That would have been 100% porky pig.

Speaker 20 I wasn't that confident. Can you give me a little bit of a palate cleanser by producing Walt Clyde Frazier talking to the Rizzler?

Speaker 63 Thanks for joining us this morning.

Speaker 64 This is how you do the rest face. So put one eyebrow down like this, and then you raise one up.
And then you suck him like this.

Speaker 8 Then you do this.

Speaker 64 That's how you do the rest these.

Speaker 63 Did that happen just instinctively or are you something you used to get in the front of the mirror and used to practice?

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 64 I think I practiced it like a little bit at school, but then I went home and then I did it.

Speaker 10 Yeah?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 63 So you like being a celebrity?

Speaker 63 Yeah.

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Speaker 63 Oh, did you see my book?

Speaker 8 Yeah, dude, it's really cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 37 So that's why he spoke to him.

Speaker 15 Look how dark that goatee was.

Speaker 21 Winning and grinning.

Speaker 25 Dana, have you saying matriculate?

Speaker 60 Let me tick, matick, matric, matriculate the ball down the field.

Speaker 35 That is not edited.

Speaker 36 It's better than I remember.

Speaker 8 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 24 You guys kind of just

Speaker 21 moved on, and I was like, what?

Speaker 5 I mean, it's on the level of Kendrick Perkins, Moses Moody.

Speaker 20 I kept thinking that Juju was just saying blow every time here.

Speaker 20 That is that is Juju just feeling for me inside of the sound.

Speaker 59 Let him tick my tick matric matriculate the ball down the field.

Speaker 20 I think your equivalence with Juju. Why didn't Juju come after me and make the room ransack me because of what had happened?

Speaker 60 Matriculate the ball down the field.

Speaker 20 The Knicks haven't felt this good in a while in terms of how it is that this fan base is rallying around the journey and two years and are they going to get better and am I going to get more attached to the players?

Speaker 21 Yeah, I mean, this validation, right? That's what they've been seeking for so long is that what they're doing is working and meaningful.

Speaker 21 And even when you talk about Carmelo Anthony, you know, that team,

Speaker 21 the peak of that was a second-round knockout to the heat. But it like, even though they were like their best in the vision that year and all that, it never felt real.

Speaker 21 Like, it was like, yeah, we're good, 50 wins, but it's just like, this isn't going to be a team that can win a championship.

Speaker 21 And what's happened in the last three years, pretty much, since Jalen Brunson's gotten there, is there is a real belief that this is something that's building towards actual tangible success, banners and awards and all that stuff.

Speaker 21 And so last night was was kind of especially they were down the crowd was very it was a San Antonio crowd

Speaker 21 it was a San Antonio crowd and this is I don't know if it's because the rodeo was in town before and these people just stayed or there was this like the announcement that hey the Spurs are good and this is going to be a huge following that's going to be a national brand over the next couple of years but the shock of the life for everyone we thought when we got to Vegas on Friday and Saturday that it's going to be a bunch of Knicks Knicks fans.

Speaker 21 Come on, who can fly in last minute? Who has a fan base at every city? They've got people. It's the Knicks.
It's going to be Knicks crowds. And the first game, it was like Knicks Magic.

Speaker 21 It was like, it's a

Speaker 20 slightly advantaged Knicks crowd, but it wasn't really as loud as we thought.

Speaker 21 And then last night, it was like, no, this is a San Antonio crowd. And I'll tell you what, like.
For the Knicks to win that, it felt like they won a road game.

Speaker 21 It felt like they won, quote unquote, against all odds. Everyone wanted Wemby to be the MVP, Wemby to be incredible.
and they went out and did it.

Speaker 21 And now, is this going to mean anything four months from now, five months from now? Probably not, but it's a start.

Speaker 20 What it could mean is that they're going to face Detroit again, and Detroit has learned all the hard things and are a better team, and so they won't lose the way they lost to them last year because Detroit is better this year.

Speaker 20 What was the scene around New York?

Speaker 36 Oh, it's been crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they had to overreact.

Speaker 32 As Amin mentioned, I assumed it's because all the Knicks fans were back in New York ready to celebrate.

Speaker 41 This is a team that's captured the hearts and minds.

Speaker 15 Let's take a look of New York City.

Speaker 38 This is where they always celebrate their first-round victories over here.

Speaker 55 Madison Square Garden after its team wins the first trophy its franchise has had since 1973.

Speaker 27 Look at them.

Speaker 16 All three of them outside of Madison Square Garden celebrating the New York Knicks.

Speaker 34 Is that Dante DiVincenzo?

Speaker 20 Everybody makes fun of the Knicks for being loud and proud. They've gotten carried away the last few seasons, winning a playoff game, confetti from the sky.

Speaker 20 This has not been a relevant franchise in 25 years until most recently. Like they've been a punchline first-round exits every time.
The East is weak.

Speaker 20 This Knicks team does have the fan base wanting desperately to have these games matter again. I don't think they're good enough, though.
They're the same team they were last year.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I think last night, though, the biggest takeaway is now you can't deny that the in-season tournament matters. LA has won, hung the banner.
New York is going to win and hang that banner.

Speaker 34 In 20 years from now, the in-season tournament is going to be a part of just the culture. And I'm happy for that as a basketball fan.

Speaker 21 Juju, it's not going to be 20 years. I'm telling you, the way the players were playing this year, the way the crowd was in a neutral site.

Speaker 25 The way New York fans reacted outside MSG.

Speaker 21 Like it felt like, okay, this is the turning point where

Speaker 21 the quality of basketball is so much better and the the fan engagement was so much better the ratings are up i talked to stand man gundi last night how great was he and dwayne waiting that's a good broadcast together the two of them together were very they just so clearly like each other so that's a part of it a part of the story of why this has been such a success is because amazon owns the rights to all of this and they said we're going to treat it like it's our you know bull season or whatever they've gone 10 toes down in terms of committing to this thing.

Speaker 21 And the energy towards the broadcast, both studio and game broadcast, has been incredible.

Speaker 33 How much do you think that had to do with the teams that were in it, though?

Speaker 33 Because we have the defending champs. We have Wemby.
Is he coming back? You got the Knicks, big market team. You got a new coach.

Speaker 33 Like, if there were worse teams in here, I don't think people would be as excited.

Speaker 21 I would say, this is what I would say, Trista. The cup games before we got to Vegas were great, right?

Speaker 21 The Cup games before we got to Vegas were, think about Heat Magic, two teams where I wouldn't say anyone is like on the top of anyone's radar in terms of popularity, but that game was a great game, and that game rated really well.

Speaker 21 Obviously, the Thunder destroying Phoenix wasn't, but the point is... These teams, Spurs-Lakers, another great game.
People are engaged.

Speaker 21 And when I say people, I'm saying the players, the coaches, the broadcasters, and the fans, we all bought in. And it's like, all it takes is do this again and again.

Speaker 21 Joe Varden wrote an incredible piece about

Speaker 21 the future of NBA Cup. And as he's trying to talk about like, hey, this is something that we just have to stick with, he brings up the concept of Christmas.

Speaker 21 Dan, do you know that the concept of Christmas in this country as like, ooh, Santa Claus and presents and trees and all that? It's like 200 years old? Like it happened in the 1800s.

Speaker 21 To us, now it's like, Christmas is an institution.

Speaker 37 No, no, no, no, no, how dare you say happy holidays?

Speaker 21 You should say Merry Christmas. Like, that's like 200 years old.
People did not care care about Christmas like that in the 1700s.

Speaker 20 Fascinating. I did not know that.

Speaker 11 NBA Cup is Christmas.

Speaker 20 I don't understand though.

Speaker 8 We'll get there.

Speaker 8 WFAT.