Local Hour: The Dan Le Batard Show Sans Dan Le Batard

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Speaker 1 This is the Dan Labatar show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Welcome to the Dan Levatard show.
Sans Dan Levittard.

Speaker 1 But don't worry. I got you.
I'm here with my dog, Hawk. And it's not just him.
We got a whole bunch of people. Give me some music, Chris.

Speaker 1 In the EP chair. Oh, this is nice.
It's Chris Cody, aka Christmas Cody, aka Big Ring.

Speaker 1 Am I supposed to say anything? Nope. Back to you.

Speaker 1 Was good. I like that.

Speaker 1 Next to him, we got Roy, the Iceman,

Speaker 1 aka the boy toy.

Speaker 1 Roy

Speaker 1 Bellamy.

Speaker 1 In the back row behind Roy,

Speaker 1 we got Jessica Smetana, aka Smetty Wap,

Speaker 1 aka Trap Queen. Queen.

Speaker 1 Why are you still dabbing?

Speaker 1 Smetty gang, we dabbed forever.

Speaker 1 Just waiting for them to put me on. Oh! Here it is!

Speaker 1 Dabbin, I see you. Let's go!

Speaker 1 Across from them, we'll jump that. We got my guy,

Speaker 1 my security blanket, Charlie Krabits, aka the vanilla snack, hit him with a salute. What up? Curly.

Speaker 1 Justin Timber Fake.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 And our number one go-to guys, the quickest man in history.

Speaker 1 Quite possibly the most talented dude in this building right now.

Speaker 1 He also dressed like he care about himself, which I appreciate, which is rare for the Lebatard show. What? It's Andrew, the Hawk,

Speaker 1 Hawkins, fucko!

Speaker 1 Let's go! And Mike.

Speaker 1 I'm not Mike. I thought that was Mike's intro until you said Hawk.
I'm like, man, he is quick. Quick as a whip.

Speaker 2 The fastest man to do what?

Speaker 1 No. I don't care about myself.
He's witty.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Hey, guys.
Got to have a good show today. I want to start with some football because it's me and Hawk in here.
Let's talk ball. Talking football.
Real ball knowers in here. Hut, hut.

Speaker 1 And it's the only sport that like this country really cares about. All other sports are tertiary.
There's one sport that's main, and that's football. And we finna get some more of it, supposedly.

Speaker 1 So, Hawk, 18 games.

Speaker 1 I don't see a lot of supportive faces at that comment. yeah it was oh lord smetty went right to the laptop

Speaker 1 roy was checking his emails it's like

Speaker 1 it's like a niche sport equinox going on recently especially down here in south florida yeah so don't start with football but we like if it was if it was in terms of like

Speaker 1 country nil

Speaker 1 football yeah would take like 80 of the pot right It does an actual NIL.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it also contributes 100%.
I guess it doesn't need need an analogy. You're right.

Speaker 1 You want to start with some niche sports equinox like that? No, run the damn ball. Start with football.
Run the rock. FB dive.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So the 18-game thing is something we've been talking about for a while.

Speaker 1 Even back when you and I were in the league, they put it on the table in the 2011 negotiations, and we properly slapped that shit right off the table.

Speaker 1 But we knew it was coming back around because the NFL has a ton of power and leverage, and

Speaker 1 money is what matters. So what are you thinking, Hawk, about the 18-game schedule that the owners are now at the owner meeting and the breakers discussing it today?

Speaker 1 Number one, we're old as hell, right?

Speaker 1 I think this is the overarching lesson here is that we're all old, not you guys as well, not just me and Nick being...

Speaker 1 you know, fossil football players, because when they introduced it, it seemed so ridiculous. But here's the tactic that the league always uses and it always works.

Speaker 1 I remember in, I think it was 2012, they were like, hey, we're going to mandate that you wear knee pads. Oh, yeah.
And it was an uproar. And that sounds crazy.
Everyone was like, what?

Speaker 1 We got to wear knee pads. I'm going to be so slow.
And we like tried to revolt against having to put, and it's like little fake pads that you can't even see.

Speaker 1 But just the fact that we had to put them on, because we didn't have to wear knee pads. It was just thigh pads.
And I don't think thigh pads were a thing. There was no thigh pads, no knee pads.

Speaker 1 We would rip the thigh pads out because the thigh pads were made of like cushioning around a tiny plastic plate and everyone would cut the plate out and just put the like plate in your thighs or wear nothing.

Speaker 1 Or wear nothing. So I just wore shoulder pads on a game day.
That's it. Just shoulder pads and a helmet.
I would wear a helmet. That was a smart thing to do.

Speaker 1 But I remember there being an uproar with all the players that they had to put these pads into their pants.

Speaker 1 And then over time, as the league got younger and guys came in and it was just the norm, no one ended up caring about it by the time that I retired. And so that's the genius of the league.

Speaker 1 Introduce 18 games at a point where everybody says how ridiculous it is.

Speaker 1 But now for the guys that are coming into the league, the young guys, they've been hearing it so long, they know it's coming, and it's not as big of a deal to them.

Speaker 1 I thought you, so I agree with that as the league strategy. And the league other strategies also be bigger and more powerful.
Yeah, also have all the legs.

Speaker 1 Do you want money or not? Yeah, we could talk about it.

Speaker 1 I think we should actually get into how the increased revenue is going to be split because it's going to go disproportionately to the stars while the end quarterbacks, while the people who are going to take the brunt of the

Speaker 1 wear and tear are not those guys. But I would like to also focus on how old we are because.
It's a good topic. You know what?

Speaker 1 I remember coming up and learning that at one point there was only 14 games. And I was like, man, what? That's crazy.
And to imagine that I played in the league, the league will soon have 18 games.

Speaker 1 I would have played. Like, you think about that.
You think about the players who played in a 14-game league when we were in a 16-game league. I thought about them like they were like fossilized.

Speaker 1 I am going to be a guy very soon when they had 18 games that they could be like, oh, you play,

Speaker 1 they used to have 16 games. I'm like, yeah, we used to have 16 games.
When did they have 14? Because I'm not going to lie, you just dropped that bomb on me live on air. I guess I

Speaker 1 thought at some point, yes, there were less games, but I never thought that there were like living people.

Speaker 2 1978 was when they switched to.

Speaker 1 1978. So we, we.
Jeez.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is not the smart idea to talk about how old we are to start this show.

Speaker 1 But it does actually help out people that are feeling old in that this finally gets us to that President's Day Monday Super Bowl hangover. So most of the nation,

Speaker 2 all the fans want Monday after the Super Bowl off, you selfish players.

Speaker 1 Just like that, I'm in. I didn't think about that either.
You guys, well, you should work for the committee. Damn.
Well, you picked an industry and you're probably going to have to work that day.

Speaker 1 We've always had it off. Now we're not going to have it off.
Ah, Ah, shit. But I need it.
It's okay that I have to work.

Speaker 1 I need more people.

Speaker 1 So there's a couple different avenues that we could go down. And I think the idea of...

Speaker 1 flooding the market with a product eventually has some sort of backlash is one way to go but i don't feel like we got any takers i was talking to charlie about this yesterday and he looked at me like i was stupid because i so i know how ridiculous it sounds that giving more football could be a bad thing because i know how much we all love football.

Speaker 1 Yeah. However, the final week of the season last year, there was a lot of trash on my TV screen.

Speaker 1 I think we're to the point where we're going to need two bye weeks now. Wow.
Oh, yeah. I like where your head's at, Roy.

Speaker 1 The two bye weeks is not going to solve the fact that there are going to be more irrelevant games at the end of the season, and there's a possibility that we could get tired of football.

Speaker 1 Am I crazy or crazy, Chris?

Speaker 1 No, bye week, even by week 17 this year, I'm like, ah, I'm good on red zone. See you next week for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I mean, there are going to be some seasons that we're going to ask ourselves, why'd we do this?

Speaker 1 The last three weeks of the season are meaningless, but then it's going to work out with the numbers that there's going to be a crazy wild card chase, and you're still going to have that issue, but it's not like that hasn't existed.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Jets have been playing terrible and terrible football the last month of the season that hasn't really mattered for quite some time. Hawk, in your playing career,

Speaker 1 thanks for pointing that out. I mean, you would take those trips down to Jacksonville and you'd be like, all right, I guess we have to play.
Yeah, no, for sure. People did buy tickets.

Speaker 1 We could have just kept it centered at the organizations I've played for or like generalized it, but I'm glad you specifically pointed out Hawk.

Speaker 1 I mean, if any of your career, if anyone has experienced it, there's been so many games I've watched you and I'm like, what has my life become?

Speaker 1 How many games did you play where it was like, all right, this means something?

Speaker 1 So all week ones. Yeah, week ones were

Speaker 1 week ones.

Speaker 1 You do like

Speaker 1 the same intro Nick just did. It was me every week one.
With the Bengals, I played some meaningful games. Yeah, you made it to playoffs.
With the Browns in my years, it was rough.

Speaker 1 It was a tough go. It's tough, like, before the leaves change, your season's done.
Yeah, man. It's still hot outside.
It was like, damn. Whose first overall pick, they're saying next year?

Speaker 1 Who am I going to be? I've been looking at box in September. Yeah, I'm like, okay.
I hope there's no hot receivers here.

Speaker 1 It's like, there's not any really diminutive receivers that are super fast coming out, is there? Okay, good.

Speaker 1 I was fortunate enough to not have those situations.

Speaker 1 But I mean, I guess I'm not a math major, but my thought would be that if you extend the season, there's more of a chance for you to end up with more teams that are out of it.

Speaker 1 And that's what I'm concerned about more than anything. And

Speaker 1 that aside, is it possible? And like, this is a broader business question probably

Speaker 1 that There's a bunch of different ways to like kill a business. And maybe I'm wasting my time and I'm going down a really ridiculous path.
But one of those ways is always tied to greed. Yep.

Speaker 1 Oversaturation. Yeah.
And like as we have the NBA and like, I know we're not going to 82 football games and we have Major League Baseball. I think we all acknowledge that.

Speaker 1 The NBA would be far more entertaining if we had us a 60-game season. But, yeah.
But aren't we already, if there was a tipping point for oversaturation, wouldn't we have met it?

Speaker 1 It's not like ESPN covers the NFL like

Speaker 1 all the time, even during the offseason. We're just talking about one additional week.
I really don't think it means ESPN covers the sport more. I think we figured it out.
As you guys are talking,

Speaker 1 I think I've cracked the code because I remember, and it's a bad take. I don't forget when it was, but Mark Cuban saying pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

Speaker 1 In 10 years, the NFL is going to, and that is not the case.

Speaker 1 And even though we get like late in the season, annoyed by bad football or whatever the situations are, the ratings are as big as they ever have.

Speaker 1 And it's because it's not greed if you're you're addicted. You know what I mean? Like there's not like too much.
Fair point. There's not too much crack.

Speaker 1 There's never been a dope dealer on the corner. Yeah, it's like, man, how am I going to move this?

Speaker 1 It was gracious.

Speaker 2 This is also coming at a time where the NFLs finally agreed to let private equity invest in its teams for the first time.

Speaker 1 Yay, private equity makes everything better. Well, I mean, that's what's going to happen with the NBA with their European expansion.
Certainly going to be happening in college football.

Speaker 1 Private equity has been sniffing around college football programs for years at this point. It's the reality of the situation.
I guess to your point, Mike and Hawk and I both work at ESPN and

Speaker 1 we talk about football year-round. So adding a week of more football, like we're going to be talking about it, whether they're games or not.

Speaker 1 At least it'll be another week of a few meaningful games, I guess. I want to just like bypass what Mark Cuban said 10 years ago because when he said it 10 years ago,

Speaker 1 the league was facing issues.

Speaker 1 A lot of people put it on the Kaeperning stuff, but you had that going on simultaneously with the games just weren't good. Think of who the Super Bowl champion was one year with the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1 Quarterback play wasn't great. The league had to do something about the sport, and they did.
And that's property.

Speaker 2 Taylor Swift today, Jason

Speaker 2 Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what they did. And honestly, that's where Roger Goodell earned his hefty salary because everyone was saying, fire Roger Goodell.
He had the Ravens, Ray Rice thing going on.

Speaker 1 It was a league in turmoil, and they rided the ship big time.

Speaker 1 I mean, mean it was it was also thought like we were coming out of the um concussion stuff and people we like cared for a hot second it's like hey

Speaker 1 it was a quick minute wasn't it that we cared and then remember play football like what do we do with this now yeah and i remember so like i guess we all have these things that you get like unreasonably attached to it as someone who played in nfl like i'm like an nfl guy and i remember the mark cuban quote and he called us hoggy he's like it's looking real hoggy like who are you talking about

Speaker 1 fam. Hoggy, bro.
All of a sudden, you start defending the things you've been standing up for as the PA president. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 I text Roger and was like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Let's take Christmas. Let's take Christmas.
Let's take Christmas.

Speaker 1 Shut that man up.

Speaker 1 Take Christmas from.

Speaker 1 The idea, when it first got put on the table, we slapped it off the table in large part because we wanted to make advancements in health and safety.

Speaker 1 But I think sometimes we touch on this from a union standpoint. We always assume that there are two parties, the union and the league that are of equal power that can have a negotiation.

Speaker 1 But once I heard 18 games was on the table and 18 games meant more money, I knew at some point the league was going to get it done. Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 Too much money.

Speaker 1 The challenging part about it, though, is when you talk about adding more money, and it's going to be a lot more money in the salary cap for everybody, which is nice, but it's all going to go to the quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 into the top level receivers, which is, I guess, why the NBA ends up with a max salary

Speaker 1 provision to make sure that the guys who are in the league that are also going to be, in football's case, going to be taking the brunt of the injuries and hits and all that from this will get some of that.

Speaker 1 May I ask you, was there ever any conversation? Running backs often find themselves in this very frustrating position because they'll just find a new one in the draft and replace you.

Speaker 1 And the statistical output above replacement at that position, you can find a lot of value.

Speaker 1 Was there ever any talk within the Players Association to have like salary salary floors for tenured players that excelled at their position?

Speaker 1 And also, what do you do with a case study like Travis Hunter, who could potentially play two positions because the league tries to, with the franchise tag, put you in a box?

Speaker 1 The franchise tag is exhausting for a lot of players. It helps out some players, but for most of them, it gets in the way.

Speaker 1 And the idea of,

Speaker 1 we have this conversation a lot about running backs because the idea of positional value when you are so good that you're the centerpiece of of the offense.

Speaker 1 Like I would argue that Christian McCaffrey at his peak is worth as much as any top receiver because the offense is built around him.

Speaker 1 To your point, there were a bunch of different proposals made in the union before we would take him to the league about how to protect salaries for specific groups.

Speaker 1 A salary floor was never one that was considered because the assumption is, particularly in the running back position, is if you raise a salary floor for a player,

Speaker 1 you're just going to get them cut, especially at a position that feels like it's pretty interchangeable.

Speaker 1 Some of the other things that were more that were entertained more realistically was creating a separate pool just for quarterbacks, because that was always the scary thing: oh, the quarterback's gonna take all the money, ain't gonna be nothing left for any of us.

Speaker 1 And that's the truth, and that is how it goes.

Speaker 1 And that's the problem, even with the because there's league minimums, like if you've been in the league so, so long, it's like if you're an eight-year, and it's the same issue.

Speaker 1 It's okay, do I pay this eight-year veteran to be be a five fourth fifth receiver or do i just get a young guy who is half the price and maybe not as good maybe not as seasoned maybe can't step in as a pinch as a starter but he can run down on kickoff and i'll take whatever the the delta is on those two things that's a lot of the issue and it's such a

Speaker 1 a system where even the owners like the quarterback is the face of the league because when you get into negotiations, you don't need all 1800 to see it your way. You need the faces that you've pushed.

Speaker 1 And let me keep them happy.

Speaker 1 And if it's harder for them to fight because they don't want to walk away from $50 to $60 million a year, then we'll always have the leverage we need to push it over the top.

Speaker 1 Do you see the potential for collusion when it comes to someone like Travis Hunter, who plays multiple positions, who can play multiple positions?

Speaker 1 I know speaking to a couple of personnel people, the teams like him at one specific position.

Speaker 1 And it kind of feels awfully convenient for the NFL to not have that problem ever really pop up on their radar. Yeah, it's the

Speaker 1 showhey situation where

Speaker 1 the NFL,

Speaker 1 there are these events that happen that you never expect to happen, but

Speaker 1 so you're not prepared for them. And Travis Hunter, I think, would qualify for one.
So I'm not sure how a team would actually handle it if Travis Hunter became a free agent.

Speaker 1 My assumption is that they're not going to like willingly pay him any surplus, even if he's the best corner and the best receiver in the league. They're going to use their leverage.

Speaker 1 They're going to use their franchise tag. They're going to use whatever leverage they have, the fifth year option, in order to avoid doing that.
Like it's going to require Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 My guess is, and we're going way into the future, but if Travis Hunter, yeah, if Travis Hunter balls out for six years and plays on both sides of the ball and become, it's going to require him to actually sit out.

Speaker 1 Because what they're going to do is be like, all right, best case scenario, you are the best receiver.

Speaker 1 We'll now pay pay you because receivers get paid more than corners so we'll pay you higher rightfully so

Speaker 1 continue

Speaker 1 sorry dude it just broke my heart because i i the the reason why it hurt me is because i wanted to disagree but i actually don't disagree you can disagree by saying what's harder though yeah it's it's it's harder it's way harder you know where you're going it's i mean you know what be the teacher i only know where i'm going if i'm dropping in a zone be it be the teacher's hard too they don't get compensated no one gets compensated for how hard their jobs is.

Speaker 1 They get compensated for how valuable they are. And you know what? I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Patrick Sertan, very valuable.

Speaker 1 Justin Jefferson?

Speaker 1 Mo valuable. Selling tickets out there, baby.
I hate it. It is.

Speaker 1 I hate it when we had that argument about... Could NFL guys play in the NBA or NBA guys play in NFL?

Speaker 1 I fought the good fight, man. I was fighting hard.
You could not fight the fight. I fought the fight because I had to get on a united front.

Speaker 1 And then guys like you were just like, yeah, no, we ain't graceful enough. I'm like, come on, man.

Speaker 1 I couldn't. I couldn't.

Speaker 1 There's some things that I could bring myself to lie about. But if you've ever been around at basket, I ran into Julius Peppers in Aspen and he played basketball at Carolina.

Speaker 1 Can we get a look at me Leroy for that? Can we get a... You're on the board, so you got to hit it.
Oh, I don't know where, but hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 And we don't got to get into the whole look at me Leroy situation. No, I think we should.
Look at me, Louie. And there's plenty of black people named Louie, Dan.
damn.

Speaker 1 Look at me, Leroy.

Speaker 1 And the voice that you use makes it feel a little bit more racist. Did you grab? You grabbed it.
That's a white guy, too. Hold on.

Speaker 1 Hold on. He put some blues in it.
That was country music. That was a Nashville white dude, man.
Which is okay. I'm just saying, if you're going to go Leroy to say this is for black people,

Speaker 1 you probably got to also diversify your VOs. Get a new voiceover guy.

Speaker 1 If it was a black person, it was an executive order that said we keep the same guy. Oh, that's crazy.
See, that's the part. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 If that was a black dude saying it, I wouldn't feel as like,

Speaker 1 I don't know about this. And it's not only that it's not a black dude, he trying to, it feels like he put some pain in his voice.
Leroy.

Speaker 1 One more time. Let me let me inspect this.

Speaker 1 Look at me, Leroy.

Speaker 1 Would it be less or more racist if it was hip-hop behind it?

Speaker 1 If it was like,

Speaker 1 yo, look at me, Leroy. And it's just,

Speaker 1 I think, boom. I think.
Would that be left? Like an 80s MC. Yeah.
Okay. Maybe you hear the

Speaker 1 baby mama. Oh, look at me.
Leroy. All right.
From now on, only

Speaker 1 black guys

Speaker 1 or black girls on the show can hit Look at Me Leroy.

Speaker 1 Dan can't use that. It's a great, we'll use the sound bite, but only Roy or guests that are black can use the look at me Leroy.
What if

Speaker 1 there has to be at least two

Speaker 1 people of African descent in the building because that's the part that throws me more than anything is like, when is one dude here,

Speaker 1 and all you whites, it feels like an attack, is all here like, look at me, Leroy, ha ha, that's funny, ha ha, ha, ha. Like, no, if, if,

Speaker 2 let's be clear, this is not, uh, this was not a collaborative effort to make this specific sound.

Speaker 1 This was one person. How did this come about? This was a 4 a.m.
email from Dan saying, I want more than just look at me, Louie.

Speaker 1 was this an effort to like he also he also wanted diversity equity and inclusion yes he also wanted to look at me louise which i think it's there we got a whole list of them there all right should i run through all the look we i don't feel like you should hit certain buttons i'm gonna be honest i feel like i'm okay with you going

Speaker 1 to even louie cultural appropriation there's a lot going on

Speaker 1 like not doing i know so many black louis that's true we didn't have to like i

Speaker 1 lou armstrong is like

Speaker 1 there's so many famous who's the most famous lou i mean louis armstrong is up there Lou Bacharak. He's up there.
I mean,

Speaker 1 every black mechanic I've ever went to is named Lou. Farrakhan.
Who's Lou Bacharak? I'm telling you. Lou Beckroat? Maybe.
That guy. Who done the car dealership? I know Burt Bacharach.
Look at me.

Speaker 1 Look. Did you just

Speaker 1 did you just make Burt Bacharak Lou Bacharak?

Speaker 1 And like, everyone was like, yeah, I guess. The creator of the card game.
That guy.

Speaker 1 You made a guy named Lou Bacharak the most famous of Lou's.

Speaker 1 That was the joke to be an obscure one down here.

Speaker 1 It's on their cars. A couple people in South Florida are like, oh, that's a good one.
But that

Speaker 1 person exists. I don't even know who that is.
I've never heard that. I don't know.
Oh, Burt Bacharach has a lot of hip-hop.

Speaker 1 I was busy making people uncomfortable with

Speaker 1 my litter. I didn't even know where to go with that one, bro.
I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 1 I just wanted it to sit there.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to sit there. You did it perfectly.
I remember last I was down here, I was teaching David Sampson how to do a show. Gosh, I love being here with Hawk, man.
It's so much easier.

Speaker 1 I don't got to teach this man how to react to when someone says something awkward or funny or silly. It's like, yeah, if you don't know what to do, shut up.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Let it sit there because it then becomes funny. Yep.

Speaker 1 Why did you say that?

Speaker 1 That's the David Roll issue.

Speaker 1 That was a damn good impression. Wow.
Awesome. That didn't help the show, Chris.
Why'd you do that? I'm sitting here thinking you're hitting buttons over there.

Speaker 2 You redeemed yourself with that one.

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Speaker 1 don lebatard i mean they used to call me chris karaoke stugats

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Speaker 1 that back row is bringing it today this is the dan lebatard show with the stugats

Speaker 1 Did anyone ever call you Big Red? Go for it. I don't know.
I didn't know. It works.
You're tallish. Red.
Yeah, red would be your football nickname. Yeah, for sure.
For sure.

Speaker 1 We should go through everyone's football because everyone gets a football nickname when you play early on. Like, my son is named Callie because he moved from California.

Speaker 1 And for three years now, he's just known as Callie. Never mind that he lived there for like eight months.
It don't matter. You know, he's from Ohio for sure, but he's known as Callie to everyone here.

Speaker 1 But that's because he lived there for eight months. That's eight months longer than everybody else on the football team.

Speaker 1 And I don't change it because as a football player who's playing in South Florida, to be known that you came from Cali to South. Come on, that's a scholarship weight.
So I let it rock. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Make no mistake. I'm like, yes, we'll take that.

Speaker 1 I know, like, hockey nicknames is like you just add a Y to things, right? Yeah, or an S. Really? Yeah, I think so.
Give me an example. Cause I don't.
What is that? Maybe Foxy. Yeah.
Foxy. Okay.

Speaker 1 Foxy just bundled a bunch of pigeons.

Speaker 1 I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 Is that racist? I don't know if that means racist.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's rapid. Absolute yard sale out there with the fellas.
Huh?

Speaker 1 What are you doing?

Speaker 1 I don't know what any of that means, but I loved it. Foxy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like football nicknames, sometimes you get a little Y action. Sometimes you get...

Speaker 1 a like the first syllable of your name but you also i think we do like the distinguishing characteristic yeah it's like if you just moved here from cali then you're gonna be cali or if you got a big head you're gonna be nogging not that deep yeah no it's not yeah no but i mean it's it's a it's deeper than hockey nicknames.

Speaker 1 Hockey nickname is lazy. Throw a Y on that thing.
Yeah. We're going, we're going to, yeah, we're going to give you something else.
But it's also not like politically correct at all. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 You can get into some dicey. Yeah.
I was looking around this room and all the nicknames that I came up with when I

Speaker 1 first came. Yeah.
You got back into football mode. It was like, okay, I can't say that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I get. Yeah.
On my show, Charlie and I have a rule where you can ask for permission to go back to the 90s. Okay.
And if permission is granted, you get the full experience.

Speaker 1 You get to say things, but it's understood. Only for 90 seconds.
Yeah. You go back to the 90s.
That's a good thing. 90 for 90.
Yeah. 90 for 90.

Speaker 1 And so in a text, I forgot I went back to the 90s, so I just instituted that I can apply for retroactive 90s pardons because I

Speaker 1 was,

Speaker 1 oh, Charlie, I

Speaker 1 know what we should do. Give it to me.

Speaker 1 We were bragging.

Speaker 1 We were bragging about our Uber ratings. And so

Speaker 1 I was challenging Charlie to put his Uber rating up versus my Uber rating. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 I don't want to spoil it. You know what we should do? I want everybody to go find your Uber rating.

Speaker 1 And I don't tell it, don't yell it out. But I want everyone to find your Uber rating.
I do Ubers for groups a lot. Oh, hush up, hush up.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Okay.

Speaker 1 Same excuse. Nope, nope.

Speaker 1 Same excuse.

Speaker 1 All the points you just got from your impersonation that you lost. They're gone.
Okay. I'm trying to give disclaimers before you pull out your Uber rating.

Speaker 1 People who ask for the aux scored.

Speaker 1 It's just like eight people there. One of them told us to ask for the aux.

Speaker 1 All right. Everybody, find your Uber rating.
Write it down. And I'm going to do Charlie.
I would like you, maybe we'll do it next segment to

Speaker 1 guess the order of everyone's Uber rating.

Speaker 1 So based on what you know about the people in here, I want you to guess the order of the Uber ratings.

Speaker 1 And I would like also, people at home, we'll give you some time next segment or at work, wherever you are.

Speaker 1 I want you to guess too. Hopefully at work.

Speaker 1 Hopefully not. Hopefully not.
Hopefully not at work. Yeah, man.
I don't know. Do what you got to do, baby.

Speaker 1 I mean, what do people do listening to this show? Do you sit and watch it? Maybe you're... Yeah, I hope you're listening at work.
That's better than... Right.
I mean, I guess I don't know.

Speaker 1 Make them pay you to listen to these funnies, man. In a a new era of media, do you, does anybody just sit and like my kids will go on YouTube and actually just watch YouTube?

Speaker 1 Do people do that with this show where they put it on and like full attention, I'm watching this?

Speaker 1 Or is it like a side-screen action?

Speaker 2 I've heard a lot of people say at places where YouTube's not blocked on their work computer, they'll like listen to it and sort of have it in the corner of their screen while they're working.

Speaker 2 A lot of people also say they listen on their way to work or from work.

Speaker 1 I want some tweets, some tweets of people

Speaker 1 showing us their setup or telling us what they do while they're listening to the show. And I also want some tweets of you guys guessing the list.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get a lot of toilets. If you send in

Speaker 1 where you're listening to the show, that's fine. Most common answer.
I don't care. I don't be on Twitter.
I just want some engagement, baby. Yes.

Speaker 1 Let it rock. But also, I'll give you the list of names in here if you're not watching so that you can make your own list at home.
So it's me, Andrew Hawkins. I'm Dominique Foxhurf.
Andrew Hawkins.

Speaker 1 Yes. You got Chris Desmond.
Weird way to introduce yourself. It's me.

Speaker 1 I mean, I wish. We already did the D-O-Double G.

Speaker 1 We did the intros already. No, we did the intros, but like now.
You're not redoing them. I'm not redoing them.
I just was like, okay, it's fine. They remember? He's in his ESPN mode.

Speaker 1 They teach him at ESPN that you just keep repeating.

Speaker 1 We just jump in. They don't go back and listen.

Speaker 2 I think one of our show's biggest flaws is sometimes we get so swept up in something that everyone is just confused. And sometimes you need to reset.
Agreed. Tell everyone what the assignment is.

Speaker 1 They all don't understand what we're doing. If we're doing this next segment, we can include Lucy because she will be joining us.
Ooh, Andrew. Do we have a look at me, Lucy? We should.

Speaker 1 That would actually make more sense in this whole thing. Look at me, Lucy.

Speaker 1 You see, there's no gravel. I heard that there's no gravel.
Don't do my man Andrew Streeter like that. No.

Speaker 2 Wait, play it again.

Speaker 1 His name is Andrew.

Speaker 1 I just said his name. Maybe I shouldn't have have done that.
Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 1 Just threw him under the bus. Hold on.

Speaker 1 I'm going to play Leroy and Lucy again, and this will determine whether Andrew took us back to the 90s or not. Let's see what he did.

Speaker 1 Look at me, Leroy.

Speaker 1 He tried to make it deeper. He is Leroy.
The ending was a little

Speaker 1 that too. Let's hear Lucy realize that.
It felt like he wanted us to believe he was the descendant of slaves. He clearly is not.

Speaker 1 There was a producer in in the control room saying one more time with stank.

Speaker 1 Put some stank on it, Andrew. Look at me with a scene.

Speaker 1 Chris,

Speaker 1 you tried to defend my man, but my man brought no pain. Yeah.
Lucy. There was no pain.

Speaker 1 That reminds me. So I mentioned that I saw Pep at Aspen, but on the flight home from Aspen, I...
Julius Peppers, we're resetting.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, I think it's Pep Cordiola. I saw Pep Hamilton.

Speaker 1 No one's thinking Pep Hamilton. No, no.

Speaker 1 Very specific to me.

Speaker 1 Remember when Pep Hamilton got an interview just like a week ago?

Speaker 1 He'll pop back up.

Speaker 1 He'll get back in the cycle. I love another game that we played last time.
I was here was Member Win.

Speaker 1 At some point later, we got to play Member Win. It's a great game.

Speaker 1 I like that. You just talk about things that happened that you think other people forgot.
My man, Pep, that was my offensive coordinator in 2016.

Speaker 2 He's the OC at Maryland now.

Speaker 1 There you go. Go Terps.
Go Terps. We got some Maryland topics coming up pretty soon.

Speaker 1 Also, when I was a kid, we had a...

Speaker 1 Stay right there.

Speaker 1 Don't go anywhere. Don't you dare.
We talk Maryland terp sports, baby. They were feisty against South Carolina.
Hey, so when I was a kid, really quick to put a button on

Speaker 1 the nickname conversation that just came to me. We had a kid who didn't have a pinky.
And his nickname was Nubs. And to this day, we call him Nubs.
But that's football.

Speaker 1 Damn, man.

Speaker 1 I mean, usually in sports, they go the other way. They might just call him Pinky.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought they'd call you the way.

Speaker 1 And then they would call you the brain. And then your life kind of shortens it and become a thing.
I love that show. North.

Speaker 1 Same thing we do every night, Pinky.

Speaker 1 To take over the world.

Speaker 1 Which also makes you old for that reference. That's fine.
I'm old. I'm good.
I'm fine. We can stay here for 90 seconds.

Speaker 1 We are in the 90s. Damn.

Speaker 1 So I got a few more seconds, and I'll tell you about a nickname that I remember from my childhood. There was a kid in our class in like fourth or fifth grade that

Speaker 1 couldn't quite control his bladder, and he pee on himself a lot. And his dad got him a Ninja Turtle watch that had a timer on it to remind him to go to the bathroom all the time.
And so.

Speaker 1 like through fourth, fifth grade, he peed on himself probably, I don't know, five to ten times.

Speaker 1 And so we called him pee-pee greg okay that man was called peepee greg all the way through high school i don't know where pee-pee greg is now but he it then it changed to just pee-pee he don't got no pees in his name just pee-pee he he and he in high school he asking somebody to take him asking somebody can he take her to the prom and his name is pee-pee that's crazy yeah that's not a damn shame man it's tough it's messed up my college nickname was matchbox when i got to school because they were like oh you're like a a little Matchbox car.

Speaker 1 So literally, everyone just called me Matchbox.

Speaker 1 Like, that was just my nickname. And awesome.
It's like, hey,

Speaker 1 right on the nose with it, man. Just like number 20.
It's fast. Turned it on his gold.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Could you imagine my fan base? If I just went Matchbox 20.
That's incredible. And then got a NAS card deal as well and just had a 20 jacket.
That's just.

Speaker 1 It's a hot one. It'd have been a look at me, Leroy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Most famous Lou. Are we still playing that game?

Speaker 1 What'd you got? Luel Cinder. Oh, come on, man.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean. So that doesn't count.
It's the only one that can compete with Garrick.

Speaker 1 I thought

Speaker 2 Garrig up there.

Speaker 1 It's all connected, though, because he also changed his name. Yeah, I was about to say, Luel Lewis, Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 2 Most famous Lou.

Speaker 1 No, we can't. That's a different.
Yeah. That's a different game.

Speaker 1 Luau Dang. I heard a dang.

Speaker 1 But his name is Luol.

Speaker 1 Nickname Lou. You know these nicknames of Lou.

Speaker 1 You got to call him Lou. You got to one syllable that thing.

Speaker 1 Loud time.

Speaker 1 Lou Will.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm just thinking of other nicknames from college that

Speaker 1 I'll tell you during the break. Okay.
I'll tell you during the breaks. So that's the thing about the nicknames is Matchbox is a fire ass nickname.
It is.

Speaker 1 But you can't ask, like, how'd you get that nickname? I just always say I was fast as hell. Yeah, that's smart.

Speaker 1 That's smart.

Speaker 1 That's why I got it because I was like, he's so fast. I'm sure they wouldn't call me Matchbox if I was getting strapped.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They don't waste time getting nicknamed.

Speaker 1 You don't get nicknames

Speaker 1 as freshmen.

Speaker 1 I had a pretty bad nickname in college, too, at first. So I was a freshman and I played pretty well as a freshman towards the end of the year.
And

Speaker 1 there was a Jay-Z song out at the time where they said Lil Bumba got A-Rod numbers. So one of my,

Speaker 1 an older safety started calling me Bumba.

Speaker 1 And then I learned that this means ass. Yeah.
And I was like, no, that's not. I think that it came from a good place.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 The other nickname that I remember where I was actually the butt of jokes was one of my first jobs was a camp counselor. And it was like at a residential camp.

Speaker 1 And they had cabin leaders and counselors. And I was a younger person.
I was 14. So I was a pretty responsible counselor.

Speaker 1 The cabin leader was like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm going to call you a cabin leader in training. and i was like that's tight i'm responsible cabin leader in training then he started calling me by the acronym

Speaker 1 that's

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