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Speaker 10 I thought I could leave it alone. I couldn't because I went out there.
Ethan shoved Taylor under the bus and said Taylor hasn't seen Raiders of the Lost Arc either.

Speaker 23 Taylor's a different kind of guy.

Speaker 24 The problem with Taylor is that he's never seen anything.

Speaker 25 Any movie.

Speaker 24 Any movie whatsoever. He just watches tape.

Speaker 26 That's it. No, he watches Kings of Queens, and that's it.
Like, that's that, and everybody loves Raymond. Like, that's what he does.
He doesn't watch anything else.

Speaker 10 Doug Heffernan, he's a big Doug Heffernan guy. Is that what he's telling me?

Speaker 26 He's a big Jerry Stiller guy.

Speaker 10 Oh, Jerry Stiller's the best, man. R.I.P.
The Bulk Fista. But Raiders of the Lost Arc, this is like required viewing, right?

Speaker 21 One of the greatest movies of all time.

Speaker 10 One greatest movies of all time. That's a movie.

Speaker 10 And, and my, uh, like, so my kids, I showed my kids Rocky for the first time last weekend, watched Rocky for the first time, and I was worried because, you know, Rocky 1 is slow.

Speaker 28 It's dangerous. It's slow.

Speaker 28 Well, no, violent.

Speaker 16 No, not violent.

Speaker 29 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 30 You know what my kids watch?

Speaker 31 Decurious.

Speaker 30 Violence is not the issue.

Speaker 32 Violence is not the issue.

Speaker 33 We agree that Rocky had CTE early in the game. Yes.

Speaker 32 Like

Speaker 32 from day one. From day one.

Speaker 34 He came into the pros with CTE.

Speaker 35 We agreed. Okay.
Advanced.

Speaker 19 It was like. Not the fun copy.

Speaker 18 He shouldn't have been fighting.

Speaker 35 And we can look back and be like, hey,

Speaker 23 maybe you should just keep the warehouse job.

Speaker 9 How did it go, though?

Speaker 39 Because I'm worried about that film age,

Speaker 39 especially with a younger demo.

Speaker 41 It's risky.

Speaker 10 So I was worried it would be too slow for them.

Speaker 32 Because it's a great film and you want them to feel what you felt. Yes.

Speaker 44 But the times may change what they feel.

Speaker 10 They liked it.

Speaker 10 They liked it.

Speaker 41 Did they like the ending? Because the ending was.

Speaker 20 They loved it. No.

Speaker 10 They were confused by the ending. They were like, wait, who won? It wasn't clear.
And I was like, yeah, I'll apologize. It wasn't clear.

Speaker 21 I just just did.

Speaker 32 But it's kind of a celebration.

Speaker 21 No, no, no. You can see how people are confused.

Speaker 7 Boy, the way it's shot.

Speaker 21 You should not land on it.

Speaker 10 The way it's shot, first of all, like, my kids don't watch boxing. So the idea of like, the first judge had it, 115.

Speaker 46 Like, they don't know what's happening there.

Speaker 10 Number two, the announcement is actually in the background because the foreground is Rocky going,

Speaker 10 Rocky!

Speaker 10 Like, so, and then they hug and they see Apollo jumping. They don't know what.

Speaker 35 They're like, wait, who won?

Speaker 10 So I had to explain that to him. The other notes that we got right number two is When's I have the tiger come on and I have to explain guys

Speaker 10 guys

Speaker 10 Rocky 3 which which led me to should I skip watching Rocky 2 no no Rocky 2 is good.

Speaker 7 Is it?

Speaker 10 Oh, you got to do it Rocky 2 is the one I've seen the least of there's only one that you skip and it's Rocky 5.

Speaker 32 Oh, that never happened but you know what?

Speaker 48 I like Rocky 5 man.

Speaker 16 I don't know what I'm saying in my older age

Speaker 36 I Have become a lot more appreciative of Rocky 5.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I showed my kid one through four and we went one day binge watched all of them yeah that's four aged now oh four is great four is pretty good yeah but four is great when i watch but there's so much ambiguity now oh oh yeah well are they our enemy no actually now it's more resonant than ever like 15 years ago i was like what why are we mad at this russian guy like now it's like yeah yeah he's back they were back cold war back baby 20 cbs

Speaker 10 when's mason the line dixon um that's rocky balboa six i call it rocky six i'm not gonna do and i call creed rocky seven and i call creed two rocky eight What?

Speaker 48 Yes. It's all Rocky.

Speaker 32 Rocky wasn't even in 8.

Speaker 10 He wasn't in the second one? No.

Speaker 52 I wouldn't mean the Creed series slowly making its way onto

Speaker 54 GOAT Black movie throw.

Speaker 21 Creed is really good.

Speaker 29 Absolutely.

Speaker 52 Rocky 7 is like my third favorite Rocky 3.

Speaker 55 Rocky 7 is really good, man.

Speaker 52 Rocky 7 is awesome.

Speaker 10 Rocky 7 and 7.

Speaker 56 Rocky 8 isn't bad either.

Speaker 10 That's the one with Drago's son, right?

Speaker 4 Uh-huh. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 No, Rocky 8 is fire, bro. What are you talking about? Rocky 9 was the one with Down in the Major.

Speaker 16 That's good.

Speaker 4 Good.

Speaker 10 That's bad.

Speaker 24 I haven't seen that one i don't think that's the one i haven't seen maybe maybe we'll work our way up yeah no he's working his way back do you want me to give you the little synopsis for it or do you just want to watch it it's like his friend was it goes to prison his friend who's the better boxer when they were younger goes to prison comes to fly chain and then jonathan majors feels like creed took his life yeah

Speaker 10 is his life is he supposed is jonathan majors supposed to be like kind of like clubber lang not quite but a little bit of that he's more evil much more evil he's a bad dude clubber lang hold on clubber lang clubber lang was not a a a good dude

Speaker 21 this guy's a a bad dude.

Speaker 37 This guy's a bad dude.

Speaker 44 This guy's a bad dude.

Speaker 39 Although his narrative just gets like fast-forwarded, the pacing on Rocky 9 ain't great.

Speaker 57 Okay.

Speaker 38 I love that we're calling it Rocky 9.

Speaker 48 It's Rocky 9.

Speaker 56 He gets a world title shot very quickly.

Speaker 35 You guys are telling me Rocky 2.

Speaker 10 Rocky 2 has the replay, the rewatch value, right?

Speaker 9 Well, Rocky 2 has, it tells a story that everybody was like, well, Rocky 1 could have been better.

Speaker 57 How do we make Rocky 1 better?

Speaker 40 But by telling a similar story. Yeah.

Speaker 38 The other help and making sure he wins.

Speaker 32 Yeah, Secrets of Us.

Speaker 27 Secrets of us.

Speaker 32 Yeah, so this is this is what I thought.

Speaker 25 There ain't gonna be no rematch.

Speaker 51 Yeah, people, people, yeah, that's when they're hugging and ride the end of Rocky One, right?

Speaker 4 And the only one.

Speaker 43 As Creed taught us, there were two rematches.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Man,

Speaker 10 we had a, we recorded an episode of Cinefobe Top Five the other day, and we were talking about worst parents in Cinefobe history.

Speaker 10 And I submitted, as one of my outside looking ins, Rocky in Rocky 4 because he's so sick and tired of being a dad and being a husband, he decides to fight in Russia on Christmas Day.

Speaker 10 Just get me away from my family as far as possible on Christmas Day.

Speaker 20 And then Adrian shows up.

Speaker 10 She shows up anyway because she's CT5 War Spouses. Just nagging.

Speaker 50 Had to fight. I'm going to win, Rocky.

Speaker 52 You can't win.

Speaker 27 You see, you know how strong he is.

Speaker 42 Oh, annoying, shrill voice.

Speaker 10 Shrill. He shouldn't have took the fight.

Speaker 59 I mean,

Speaker 2 could we not be honest and say he shouldn't have fought the dude?

Speaker 49 Who?

Speaker 60 Anybody shouldn't have fought the dude?

Speaker 20 Apollo.

Speaker 20 Apollo should not have fought the dude?

Speaker 31 Apollo shouldn't have fought the dude.

Speaker 55 It was an exhibition. He didn't know the dude was going to go like that.

Speaker 37 Rocky shouldn't have fought him after he watched him kill Apollo.

Speaker 20 Rocky should have thrown the tower earlier.

Speaker 10 But again, think about it.

Speaker 61 Rocky gets a concussion every morning.

Speaker 31 Adrian, he's clearly concussed.

Speaker 60 Can we get an independent neurologist out here?

Speaker 20 That didn't exist at that time.

Speaker 32 Or do we have

Speaker 32 20 CB?

Speaker 37 Is this shot that important?

Speaker 10 20 CB. They just give you the smelling salts.
You're good. He's good.
He's awake.

Speaker 32 Look at my finger. All right, he's good.
Go. A walking concussion.
Dude.

Speaker 35 Walking concussion.

Speaker 10 Think about this. Rocky left his wife and child on Christmas to go to Russia, communist Russia, to go fight a dude who murdered his friend in the ring.

Speaker 10 Like, you know how much of a bad husband and a bad father you have to be to be like, I'm going to do this over here on Christmas.

Speaker 13 He's a good husband.

Speaker 62 He still visits the grave.

Speaker 54 He's a great friend.

Speaker 32 As Rocky.

Speaker 10 Oh, as Rocky 7.

Speaker 16 Michael Jordan. He made that motivational speech.

Speaker 57 Well, and then he was on a nine. No.

Speaker 2 Michael Jordan would never fight the person who ended up killing you in the ring for you.

Speaker 48 That's fair.

Speaker 47 So this is why Rocky is maybe one of the best friends.

Speaker 10 I didn't say he's a great friend.

Speaker 4 He's a great friend.

Speaker 21 And while you're boxing, Trump.

Speaker 24 I think we got a LeBron Windy situation here. He never said he was his best friend.

Speaker 21 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 51 All he said he's to go to the funeral. He's going to go to the funeral.

Speaker 54 Only friends go to funerals.

Speaker 10 That's not true.

Speaker 21 I've gone to a lot of funerals.

Speaker 65 Why do we keep having a mean die before Michael Jordan?

Speaker 49 Amin?

Speaker 41 He's got the premonition.

Speaker 35 He's going to do it. Number one.

Speaker 21 Because he wants Michael Jordan to go to his funeral.

Speaker 35 He's going to make sure it happens.

Speaker 10 LeBron's not the only person spending seven figures on their body. Michael Jordan is, except it's just cognac and cigars.
Yeah. But still,

Speaker 10 look at George Burns. He lived to like 112 or whatever, so there it is.

Speaker 27 You

Speaker 32 hawk millions.

Speaker 35 Cognac and cigars a year on your body.

Speaker 10 Let me get away from this before he decides he's not going to come.

Speaker 32 Yeah, he's not going to.

Speaker 16 You see how I'm trying to get into it?

Speaker 37 I'm trying to make sure I keep my money.

Speaker 60 Like, I can't believe it.

Speaker 32 I'm sorry, Mike.

Speaker 31 Oh, you said he

Speaker 60 spends his money on his cigars and cognac.

Speaker 10 Mike, I'm sorry. I was just playing.

Speaker 49 I'm playing.

Speaker 10 You know, I like to play Mike.

Speaker 61 With friends like you, who needs enemies?

Speaker 32 I like Hennessy, too.

Speaker 4 So, Hawk, I like him.

Speaker 27 I like him.

Speaker 24 Mike's not drinking Hennessy, by the way.

Speaker 32 Yeah, he's

Speaker 4 Remy.

Speaker 30 Louis XIII, baby.

Speaker 32 A little higher.

Speaker 10 Hawk, you had...

Speaker 10 Umbrance. You took Umbrance.
You took issue with something that Dan said on the show about, was it Russell Wilson?

Speaker 47 Yeah, Russell Wilson, about how it's so sad that he gets to go make up the $21 million with the New York Giants and that

Speaker 2 it's a terrible ending to a career.

Speaker 61 I completely disagreed with that take. I think he might be the happiest person in all a free agency.

Speaker 10 Dude, you get to live your, like, it's like, what do they call them?

Speaker 10 When people go play, not fantasy baseball, but like when people pay a bunch of money to go play on

Speaker 42 Yankee.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Like fantasy camp, right? Except it's real.

Speaker 54 Except it's real.

Speaker 66 Except it's real. Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 19 It's like going to Westworld for Russell Wilson, right?

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 10 You go in there and like, oh, yeah, these robots are actually trying to kill me.

Speaker 38 Like, I don't, I can't see a world at all where Russell Wilson, I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 2 Not even a single pointer that I can see where he would be disappointed in how things transpired, especially given where he was with the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 38 And he was positive in that situation. Yeah.

Speaker 67 And it was clearly him and his coach did not get along.

Speaker 2 His coach hated his guts.

Speaker 66 He got cut in a season where he was playing decent.

Speaker 2 And the thing about it is he didn't finish last year great. He is aging.
Everyone does.

Speaker 66 He's not a young quarterback, but he's not playing that far off of the way that he's always played.

Speaker 61 And that is just the thing, elements around him.

Speaker 23 And now he gets to go to New York media market with his superstar wife.

Speaker 32 Yep.

Speaker 32 She's a superstar?

Speaker 37 Back into, yeah, Sierra's.

Speaker 10 She was a superstar.

Speaker 41 We're doing this off of follows.

Speaker 10 She was a superstar. She was a huge superstar.

Speaker 41 She's more famous worldwide.

Speaker 31 Yes.

Speaker 61 I would argue she's more famous now than she's ever been.

Speaker 4 Nah, that can't be true.

Speaker 55 One, two, step, sir.

Speaker 67 That you guys are living in a moment.

Speaker 33 Like, she's more visible now. No, she's not.

Speaker 67 The injection of sports.

Speaker 24 I had the biggest song on the planet.

Speaker 10 The biggest song on the planet.

Speaker 55 She had the missing cosa.

Speaker 37 I think you guys were really, really into hip-hop at the time.

Speaker 21 At that time?

Speaker 32 Absolutely.

Speaker 52 It was certifiably one of my passions.

Speaker 21 That was one of my passions.

Speaker 29 In that era.

Speaker 43 100%.

Speaker 37 I still think so.

Speaker 21 When Luda hopped on the back,

Speaker 46 whip, whip.

Speaker 32 Come on, man.

Speaker 37 I didn't say it wasn't fire.

Speaker 30 I didn't say I wasn't in the party's going hammer.

Speaker 19 Come on, man.

Speaker 64 I'm just saying she's still a superstar. She is.

Speaker 38 And they're now in the media market of New York as opposed to Western Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 Sure.

Speaker 10 No, no, look, hey, man.

Speaker 45 You know what else grinds my gears?

Speaker 9 I'm sorry to cut you off.

Speaker 13 Like, we were doing this thing. We let Dan perpetuate this.

Speaker 15 Aaron Rodgers and Sugat's last five games, last five games.

Speaker 45 And then I look at Russell Wilson's last five games.

Speaker 41 Very comparable, except Russell Wilson was actually playing real teams in real life.

Speaker 32 Meaningful games.

Speaker 4 Meaningful

Speaker 41 teams trying to win their football games instead of whatever the hell they had going on with the Jets.

Speaker 38 Now do that with Aaron Rodgers over the last three years, and you will see that it's the same thing.

Speaker 36 He's played better than Aaron Yellow Williams.

Speaker 16 And he's five years younger.

Speaker 66 He's more excited about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 10 I'm going to tell you right now, don't look now, but I think Russell Wilson is going to do better in New York than Aaron Rodgers did.

Speaker 48 Oh, wait.

Speaker 27 I shouldn't have to. It's time.

Speaker 27 New game.

Speaker 4 I like that. Don't look now.

Speaker 10 It's not a new game. And it's a terrible game.

Speaker 24 I'm glad you said don't look now.

Speaker 69 I'm glad you said don't look now. Go ahead, Roy.

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Speaker 24 Tony, absolutely is a world's number one vodka. Okay.

Speaker 69 Okay. Boy, so obviously we talked about Russell Wilson.

Speaker 24 That's on my Don't Look Now show.

Speaker 10 I'm really concerned about a lot of things, Tony. Before you start.

Speaker 42 Well, number one, I don't know what Mike is doing to Pat Riley.

Speaker 10 I know that Pat Riley has a case, an HR case. Number two, you guys have recruited Andrew Hawkins into this something.

Speaker 59 I wish I got a real blindfold.

Speaker 32 Well, you got to close your eyes at least.

Speaker 48 Okay, they're closed.

Speaker 4 Okay, good. All right.

Speaker 24 Don't look now. We haven't even mentioned this on the show.

Speaker 27 I don't know who's behind me.

Speaker 4 We haven't

Speaker 48 foot. What is Pat Riley?

Speaker 69 Don't look now.

Speaker 23 Stephon Diggs is a patriot.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Not mentioned, not uttered once on this show, by the way, last week.

Speaker 12 Stephon Diggs.

Speaker 24 Now with Drake May,

Speaker 24 interesting veteran receiver, veteran presence.

Speaker 27 Is it a good veteran presence? I don't know. know.

Speaker 24 That's why we're not looking. He wasn't that bad.
He wasn't that great.

Speaker 43 But it's like the first had, too.

Speaker 10 This is the first piece of analysis Mike has ever offered in this segment. That is true.

Speaker 24 But again, Mike likes it.

Speaker 27 Drake May.

Speaker 24 Hawk, what do you think? Getting a veteran guy in there, trying to help him out?

Speaker 70 You got to develop your young quarterback.

Speaker 47 You know who's really good at helping develop young quarterbacks with rocket arms at 6'5 ⁇ , with a lot of potential?

Speaker 58 Stephon Diggs.

Speaker 58 Josh Allen, ring a bell, anybody?

Speaker 23 I love it.

Speaker 24 Mack Collins at the two. What if if they go up and draft Travis Hunter, too? Nice little one, two, three.

Speaker 59 I can't believe how much we talk about Mac Collins. And Taylor introduced me to that name like a year and a half ago.

Speaker 61 And now he's a superstar, like Sierra.

Speaker 10 I like how we barricaded Mike, by the way. Good job, Billy.

Speaker 47 I have no idea what Mike's doing because I'm not looking now.

Speaker 59 There you go.

Speaker 69 Don't look now.

Speaker 24 And it's actually gaining steam. Diana Rossini commented on this and reported this earlier today.

Speaker 10 You guys talk into the microphone. Where's my mic? You got to talk into the mic.

Speaker 24 The Packers were one of the teams that tried to ban the push the tush push.

Speaker 24 Oh, and now it's starting to gain some steam where across the league there may be some people led by the Packers that want to cancel the tush push.

Speaker 47 Gotta do it.

Speaker 27 Has to happen. There we go.

Speaker 24 I'm back.

Speaker 69 All right, what else do I have here? Don't look now.

Speaker 10 You're looking at your paper.

Speaker 48 Well, how is that possible?

Speaker 18 Hold up.

Speaker 27 It's the psychic thing where I can see where the Ark of the Covenant is. I just can't see exactly where.
How many soldiers?

Speaker 24 200. Sorry.

Speaker 24 Vikings have not.

Speaker 24 Yeah, hold on. Give me.

Speaker 24 The Vikings have not.

Speaker 27 Oh, no. Oh, I got his hand.
I got his hand.

Speaker 24 The Vikings have not commented on the QB1 for their team. Is it going to be JJ McCarthy?

Speaker 27 Could it be Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 69 They haven't closed the door yet.

Speaker 27 Don't look now.

Speaker 10 Hawk, how surprised are you that the door isn't closed on Aaron Rodgers everywhere?

Speaker 47 I'm not surprised because he's such a, he is a great talent, and he still is one of the best 32 quarterbacks in the league physically.

Speaker 37 the question is what comes along with him off the field and being a 42 year old in a locker room that you don't really feel like you need to be subjected to everything every player is subjected to how does that how does that play hog let me ask you a question okay as you got older was there any part of the locker room environment that you were like i'm too old for this not necessarily the physical but just like much of it by the time i retired when i got plus 30 i hung out more with the coaches than i did the players just because i'm married with kids right you got 21 year olds coming in here with music i i don't know i was very much the old guy that's how me and joe thomas became friends because he's an offensive lineman i'm a wide out but we're both old as hell and he was the only person i could talk to about like older person things in the locker room so you get you

Speaker 10 it loses you quick yeah so and you say you hang out with the with the with the coaches how do the coaches receive that like is there any part of it oh okay i gotta see i gotta look now i'm sorry it was yeah the segment's over

Speaker 30 nobody was gonna tell me we just wanted to see how much longer you were to go.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 29 All right.

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Speaker 72 If all the raindrops were lemon drops and gumdrops, oh, what a rain that would be.

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Speaker 10 guys are you as you excited as I am for this new statham movie

Speaker 18 a working man

Speaker 27 I just saw the I just saw the preview right now where's my laptop it's always an occupation

Speaker 10 it's a it's like wrestlers in the early 90s late 80s I love it's always I love these new statham movies which is always I'm just a guy minding my business, but then somebody messes with an innocent person.

Speaker 24 But I'm also an elite fighter.

Speaker 10 No, but someone messes with an innocent person in my life.

Speaker 21 Steven Segal?

Speaker 10 I don't like that.

Speaker 10 I can't do a statham.

Speaker 10 So I just do this voice right here. It's like, someone messes with an innocent person in my life who really isn't in my life, is tangentially in my life.

Speaker 10 So maybe it's my neighbor, like it was in the Beekeeper, or maybe it's like the daughter of my best friend, like it is in a working man.

Speaker 10 But now that they mess him, I've got to destroy their whole criminal organization. Just me, just the man.

Speaker 51 I love it.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 10 Did you guys see Beekeeper, by the way?

Speaker 31 No.

Speaker 41 Oh, he was in occupation.

Speaker 10 Beekeeper was hilarious.

Speaker 10 Hilarious. Including a line that's like, most people don't know honey is one of the most flammable liquids ever.
And then he lights it on fire and the guy goes, Is that so? Yeah, that's what he said.

Speaker 10 Really?

Speaker 35 I don't know if it's real.

Speaker 32 No way.

Speaker 32 Can you light honey on fire?

Speaker 10 Apparently, it's very flammable, according to Beekeeper.

Speaker 4 I gotta watch Beekeeper.

Speaker 29 I would imagine they just wouldn't make something up like that.

Speaker 43 Although, films do tend to do that.

Speaker 58 I mean, it's a movie.

Speaker 63 It's Hollywood, baby. Hollywood.

Speaker 15 I remember the whole plot to the film Triple X was the submarine in landlocked Czech Republic.

Speaker 45 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 43 In their defense, the submarine could fly.

Speaker 4 Oh, it's kind of fun.

Speaker 10 Flying submarine. It's a supermarine at that point, right?

Speaker 28 Supermarine. A submarine isn't.

Speaker 10 And if it was just a boat, it would be a marine.

Speaker 29 Get it? Yeah.

Speaker 49 Everything in movies is real.

Speaker 61 It's just not revealed yet.

Speaker 42 Yeah, like the Ark of the Covenant.

Speaker 32 Exactly.

Speaker 50 Don't look now.

Speaker 4 Oh, no.

Speaker 32 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 59 Jesus. We're back, baby.

Speaker 18 Where's my laptop?

Speaker 4 No, no.

Speaker 10 Kill that music, please.

Speaker 70 We're back.

Speaker 10 One of the big stories

Speaker 10 in sports, and Mike, I'm glad you're here and looking now. I want you to be looking now because this is a big story in sports.
I call it the biggest Cinderella story in sports.

Speaker 45 UFL, kicking off.

Speaker 18 Almost. Roughneck.

Speaker 21 Battle Hawks.

Speaker 59 Not a Cinderella story. Shout out to the Battle Hawks.

Speaker 10 The biggest Cinderella story in sports is the Sudanese national team in soccer, right? So if you don't know, I'm from Sudan, and our country has been at war.

Speaker 25 Just like Agbar.

Speaker 10 Yeah, just like Agbar Domestique, yeah.

Speaker 10 Has been at war for a good two years now, where there's no infrastructure, there's no safety.

Speaker 10 It's the largest number of displaced people in the world right now, the biggest refugee crisis in all the world.

Speaker 10 And so the Sudanese national team, as a result, has not been living in Sudan, has not been playing home games in Sudan. They've had to live in Libya and play their home games there.

Speaker 10 And everyone who listens to the show knows I'm a huge Brazil fan because growing up in Sudan, you're like, well, Sudan's never going to be good. So we all adopted Brazil as our, that's our country.

Speaker 10 And it's been an unrewarding experience to watch Brazil be awesome and excellent. But this is different.

Speaker 10 Because now the Sudanese national team that doesn't live at home, that doesn't play its home games at home, has been on this miraculous Cinderella run over the last year and a half where they've qualified the African Nations Cup, and they're currently number one in their World Cup qualifier group.

Speaker 10 And so they had a big game last week against Senegal. And Senegal is a team that has a lot of big name guys.
Sadi Omane,

Speaker 10 to give you an example, they got a bunch of guys that play in the EPL and they play at the top levels of European football.

Speaker 45 Traditional AFCON power.

Speaker 10 Power, right? Like you talk about the biggest teams in Africa, like the perennial, the Dukes, the North Carolinas Carolinas of African soccer, it's Nigeria, it's Senegal, it's Ghana, right?

Speaker 10 Those are the three. And then everyone else kind of get in where you fit in.
Algeria, I guess you could put them in there as well.

Speaker 10 And so for Sudan to go and play against Senegal and not only come out with a draw, but like kind of should have won the game. Kind of should have won the game.
It was something that was magical.

Speaker 10 And I was wondering, Mike, because you are a soccer guy, is this a story that's resonating with soccer people?

Speaker 10 I know Master Tesfazion went on Galazzo and he did a segment on it, but for the soccer heads overall, is this a story that's resonating or is this still kind of...

Speaker 15 I think it might, if you look across the globe, too, there's plenty of those stories, especially in the Middle East.

Speaker 40 There's a lot of countries that would make for incredible storylines if they were to make it to

Speaker 41 a World Cup, especially here in North America.

Speaker 9 Geopolitically, there's a lot that put...

Speaker 9 you know, the host committee in a precarious situation, although the World Cup usually transcends that stuff.

Speaker 7 But given the current climate, it'd be hard to ignore.

Speaker 13 I do think that it's resonating.

Speaker 9 You still have to have to seek it out.

Speaker 40 AFCON qualifying region does not get a lot of attention over here just because it's not readily available.

Speaker 9 You have to really seek this out.

Speaker 15 But as we march closer, I really do think that come summertime with the formal ramp up of the Club World Cup that also kicks off down here in Miami, I believe with Inner Miami, you're going to start seeing these media entities start putting together narratives as the picture becomes a little clearer.

Speaker 41 It's also a little bit difficult here in this country because I don't think, like, it's been damn near 30 years since the United States hasn't had to go through a qualification process.

Speaker 45 Right.

Speaker 21 So things that happened last week with the United States losing.

Speaker 10 It doesn't matter that we're not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 32 It doesn't really resonate because all they know is World Cup.

Speaker 9 We're not really having our position jeopardized anyway because they've already qualified as a host nation.

Speaker 10 I want to put this out there. If Sudan makes a World Cup, and obviously the World Cup is going to be here, Canada, and Mexico in a year.
Real. Wow, it's coming right up.

Speaker 10 If Sudan makes a World Cup, I've already announced that I am going to be the host for all of this. I'm going to take the team out to dinner.

Speaker 10 We're going to go to Fogo de Chao because we want that Brazilian energy in us, right?

Speaker 10 And I'm going to be doing the media rounds. I'll do ESPN.
I'll do Fox. I'll do everything.
I'm going to make this a thing.

Speaker 50 It should be. And

Speaker 10 because

Speaker 10 I want this to be visible because I think people need to understand, yo, it's insane to not know if your family members are alive or healthy and have to go out there and compete. And again,

Speaker 10 I'm trying to think of what the American equivalent is. It would be like McNee State playing against

Speaker 19 the Bulls.

Speaker 45 Only if they were coming from like a war-torn part of the country.

Speaker 10 I'm just saying the war-torn stuff apart. Like this isn't like...

Speaker 39 It could do so much good.

Speaker 38 It's the war-torn stuff apart.

Speaker 10 It's also like the talent gap. Like we don't have anybody that's close to what these teams are bringing to the table.

Speaker 43 Yeah, and just even if it's for a brief moment, you have on that continent, DDA Dragba famously helped end a civil war and introduce a peacetime just for the Ivory Coast, which is also probably in that group of Afghan blue bloods.

Speaker 15 But the attention that it would bring to a cause, which, as you know, is so underrepresented in the news cycle, especially here in the United States, because we're just so infatuated with our own problems over here, to have that kind of attention can do some real legitimate good even just from a fundraising perspective even if it just impacts the the lives of the players and the families of those players everybody should be rooting for this everybody should be rooting for what's happening absolutely now should everybody be rooting for the ufl they should spring ball matters we have a a testament to non-NFL spring ball no you played in the CFL but it was a development

Speaker 41 developmental league it's been around longer than the NFL bro did you see the Trey Lance story no Trey Lance may be going north of the border

Speaker 45 to help revive his

Speaker 10 research.

Speaker 34 To go build a car.

Speaker 41 Are you one of the greatest underdog stories in the history of the Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 53 I'm the secret sauce.

Speaker 13 Are you actually going to come out against the UFL?

Speaker 63 No, I love the UFL.

Speaker 32 The UFL is great.

Speaker 73 I just take issue with you pointing to me about a league I did not play in.

Speaker 9 Well, as someone that cut his teeth in a league that wasn't the NFL and then rode that league to the superstard that you did, multiple contracts in the NFL, world's quickest man, you would know that what's going down tonight in Houston between the Roughnecks and the Battle Hawks is of importance.

Speaker 41 Is that?

Speaker 4 That's an intro.

Speaker 32 Is there

Speaker 10 an Andrew Hawkins of the UFL?

Speaker 21 There's plenty of good stories in the UFL.

Speaker 25 Like right now, Josh Pearson.

Speaker 10 That's made it. That's

Speaker 10 made it?

Speaker 10 That's the Hawk story. The Hawk story is he started there, and then he made it.
Turpin.

Speaker 42 Not a guy who could make it, a guy who did make it.

Speaker 54 Turpin. Turpin's probably

Speaker 43 the best story.

Speaker 52 He was at the UFL?

Speaker 45 Who's that title contract just now?

Speaker 40 Tight end for the Chargers.

Speaker 45 Oh, my God. Backup tight end.
Jonah Gates. No.
No. Backup tight end.

Speaker 57 I'll get it. I'll find the name.

Speaker 43 But there were good stories.

Speaker 15 And then never forget what COVID took away from us:

Speaker 15 the Roughnecks Battle Hawks, I mean, collision course for the championship.

Speaker 39 Jordan Tiamu and P.J.

Speaker 45 Walker, who were lighting the world on fire.

Speaker 21 PJ Walker, another guy, had a couple couples. PJ Walker was a great story, and he was legitimately good at the cut league.

Speaker 41 We got Anthony Brown starting at quarterback for the Roughnecks.

Speaker 13 We got Max Dugan.

Speaker 15 We got a loaded offense for the Battlehawks.

Speaker 43 It got Hakeem Butler, who is a huge producer and wide receiver for them.

Speaker 31 McCarran's still there? We got AJ Leonardo

Speaker 14 McCarran

Speaker 52 on the outside.

Speaker 45 I'm like 90% sure this game goes down because there's all sorts of talk that there might be a workshop.

Speaker 25 Wait a second. Wait a second.

Speaker 10 Is this a Brian Scalabrini situation? You know, Brian Scalabrini played in the big three. Do y'all know that?

Speaker 28 Yes. Like very briefly.

Speaker 10 And then he went to broadcasting after that because he was like, oh, I'm too old for that. But like the idea of like, I'm a broadcaster, but then I come back and I work out and then I play.

Speaker 10 Is that what's happening?

Speaker 43 McCarran has been very vocal.

Speaker 13 I wasn't a huge fan of the merger because it kind of sided with the USFL way of doing things, which meant they had to use that union.

Speaker 45 They took some of their rules.

Speaker 9 Thankfully, the XFL kickoff that the NFL adopted is back in what was formerly known as the XFL.

Speaker 13 But the UFL, I don't know, it's just not doing it. It's not as extreme, I guess.
I miss the XFL.

Speaker 39 I don't like the UFL as much, but I'll give it time and hopefully with the second year, but there's all sorts of

Speaker 13 reports being done right now.

Speaker 9 The players still exhausting every option because they're not happy with the compensation that they're getting.

Speaker 13 I mean, I do think today's game is going to go down, but A.J. McCarron has been one of those outspoken voices, especially for the quarterbacks.

Speaker 13 The quarterbacks came out in unison and said that their pay wasn't right, but McCarron's not playing for the Battle Hawks anymore, no.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and also, I think you're confusing Greg McElroy with A.J.

Speaker 47 McCarron, who are both former Alabama quarterbacks. One is an analyst for each other.

Speaker 10 Which one had the hot girlfriend that

Speaker 50 Muskburger?

Speaker 16 AJ McCarran.

Speaker 21 McCarran.

Speaker 43 Although, to be fair, I don't know what McElroy's working with.

Speaker 24 But the famous one where...

Speaker 57 Who was it? Was it Brad Nesser?

Speaker 10 Nesser or no, Musburger.

Speaker 57 Brad Musberger.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Musburger.

Speaker 28 Yeah, there's a lot of people. That's the one you're thinking of?

Speaker 4 It's McCarran.

Speaker 57 But we got football under the Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 45 I love it.

Speaker 49 I love it.

Speaker 2 My question, and this is very,

Speaker 59 I don't even want to qualify it.

Speaker 58 But okay, so the players that are fighting for the money and all the things, it feels a little premature.

Speaker 10 What is?

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know what the UFL makes.

Speaker 58 I don't know what those TV contracts look like.

Speaker 47 I don't know what the CBS.

Speaker 2 So I'm coming in this unchecked.

Speaker 38 Well, that's how we like it. That's how we like it here, right?

Speaker 47 But I will say that when I'm looking at the UFL, to your point about CFL, my opportunity there being similar, is I'm looking at it as an opportunity to build a profile and tape to try to make it to the NFL

Speaker 2 versus creating a career out of the UFL. Now, there will be players that do so.

Speaker 70 Not by choice, not by choice, though.

Speaker 2 And I kind of feel like it's cutting your nose off to spite your face a little bit to for a work stoppage in a scenario where you guys are trying to put enough film out there to make it to the big show, which is kind of the whole premise around quote-unquote spring football in the first place.

Speaker 2 So that's not like it's not disrespectful to the UFL to say you're a feeder league to the NFL because that's how it's built versus a CFL truly views themselves as a self-contained professional league in their country that has been around longer than the National Football League.

Speaker 41 Did you mention that the CFL is older than the NFL?

Speaker 31 I did. Is that true? It is true.

Speaker 27 Absolutely true. Yes.

Speaker 60 It is the old league.

Speaker 43 You mean older than the merger?

Speaker 18 No. Older than the actual league?

Speaker 33 Older than the actual league.

Speaker 67 And then also, like, you got to realize, like, in the 70s.

Speaker 24 1956 is what I'm looking at.

Speaker 2 The salaries are comparable.

Speaker 10 Not older than the NFL then.

Speaker 47 Well, then it is the merger.

Speaker 60 The NFL. It's older than the NFL.

Speaker 73 No.

Speaker 26 The NFL was founded in 1920. The CFL was founded in 1958.

Speaker 58 I don't think that's right.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 10 I think we need CFL merch for.

Speaker 29 I think that's right. CFL.

Speaker 20 I would love CFL merch.

Speaker 10 And anybody who works with a CFL, can we send some CFL merch to Hawk so he can wear it on the show next time?

Speaker 32 At least we admit it on the front end.

Speaker 41 We are not informed on this at all.

Speaker 10 Again, unchecked. That's how we like it around here.
Everything's unchecked.

Speaker 10 When you guys have a cleaning person coming to your house,

Speaker 10 do you clean your house first for the cleaning person?

Speaker 45 It's crazy, bro. It's crazy.

Speaker 24 We had the cleaning lady the other day, right? A couple of days ago. And the night before, I got a baby, a three-month-old kid.
Very hectic in in my life, right?

Speaker 24 Baby's screaming, crying, we gotta give her a bath, we gotta put her down, we gotta do this, we gotta do that.

Speaker 24 By the time I get home, my wife's like, hey, the cleaning lady comes tomorrow, we gotta clean up.

Speaker 57 And I'm like, she's we're paying her to clean up.

Speaker 24 Yeah, and she's like, no, no, but we got to clean up before she cleans up

Speaker 24 so we don't look like slobs and we don't look like you know dirty people. And I'm like, I get that.

Speaker 24 I'll put away a couple of things that we've got out, but like, I'm not going to physically get on my hands and knees and scrub something that she is going to scrub tomorrow.

Speaker 10 Now, here's the deal. There's part of it that is to say face, right? Absolutely.
I feel like this is a universal,

Speaker 10 this isn't a two Americas thing, right? This is universal.

Speaker 52 Three Americas. Three Americas.

Speaker 16 Four Americas.

Speaker 21 Just got to close the loop.

Speaker 29 Donald Parham.

Speaker 4 Oh, there you go. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Parm the interruption.

Speaker 29 The dishes have to be done.

Speaker 10 Yeah, like, look,

Speaker 10 some of it is to safe face, right? Some of it is you don't want like these people like, oh, these people are animals, right?

Speaker 10 But there's another part of this. There's actually two other elements to why you clean up before the cleaning people show up.
Number one is you clean up the things that I don't want you messing with.

Speaker 10 Right. Right? Like, I'm going to put this stuff away because I don't trust.

Speaker 24 Because you don't know where it goes.

Speaker 25 I know where it goes.

Speaker 10 Exactly. And one of the things I hate about the cleaning people is when they, like, I open like a drawer, I'm like, where the hell is the thing? And like, oh, they put it in this cabin over here.

Speaker 10 Like, we never put the bottle opener there. Why would it be there? Right.

Speaker 10 Number two, and this one is huge, because if it's too much of a hard work, they might half-ass it. So I'm going to get rid of the original kind of surface level.

Speaker 24 They're going to do like 25%, so they only have to do 75% instead of 100%.

Speaker 10 Not only, so they only have to do 75%, they have to do the hard 75%. I'm going to get rid of the aesthetic, like superficial part of the dirt.

Speaker 10 Like, all right, now you got to scrub that part that won't come out.

Speaker 32 So instead of them half-assing, you're half-assing.

Speaker 4 Absolutely.

Speaker 10 Absolutely. That's why you clean before the cleaning people show up.

Speaker 24 It's just like, I don't get it because I had to clean my house at 11 o'clock.

Speaker 25 And it's like, that's annoying.

Speaker 3 Who put all these shoes here?

Speaker 21 Why are all the shoes? There's 11 shoe pairs of shoes in the house.

Speaker 10 Why are they here? I kind of feel like this is.

Speaker 21 I'm running up the stairs with nine shoes.

Speaker 57 Hold on.

Speaker 24 Trying not to wake the baby up. Hold on.

Speaker 21 One shoe falls off.

Speaker 32 My wife's like, watch. I'm like.

Speaker 10 Tony, I'm not trying to sow seeds of discontent in your household, but I kind of feel like when it's you, her, and the baby, it's pretty obvious whose shoes are who.

Speaker 17 Yes, of course.

Speaker 10 I got a problem in my house because I got kids, multiple, and two of them are twins. And so whose shoes are.

Speaker 32 Who are the you twins?

Speaker 49 I got twins too.

Speaker 10 My twins are 11.

Speaker 68 Mine are 10. For real?

Speaker 18 Come on, put it there. Twin life.

Speaker 10 Did you find that once you had twins, you started meeting people at twins?

Speaker 54 Yeah, that's all you see.

Speaker 10 That's all you see is twins.

Speaker 2 You should go to the Twinsburg Twin Festival in Ohio.

Speaker 50 Oh, yeah. All the twins

Speaker 21 converge in Twinsburg, Ohio, to have

Speaker 4 a festival, all twins.

Speaker 22 By the way, twins?

Speaker 48 File. There it is.

Speaker 4 I have a brother.

Speaker 63 Also,

Speaker 54 the Great Cup is older than the Super Bowl.

Speaker 47 It's 1909, it was when the Grey Cup was found in the middle of the middle.

Speaker 52 I had seen the Grey Cup thing, not a

Speaker 64 CFL thing.

Speaker 59 The CFL is older than the NFL and the merger.

Speaker 47 I went and find that.

Speaker 39 All right, so courtesy of ChatGPT, which has been wrong about Hawkins-driven topics.

Speaker 32 It's a little racist, but go ahead.

Speaker 58 I'll allow it.

Speaker 39 NFL was founded in 1920.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 13 CFL was formed in 1958

Speaker 41 through a merger of various Canadian football organizations.

Speaker 52 However,

Speaker 39 Canadian football itself has has its roots going back to the 1860s,

Speaker 45 which predates American football.

Speaker 41 But the official CFL organization came much later than when the NFL started.

Speaker 10 So Canadian football is older than Reconstruction.

Speaker 45 Well, what about college football?

Speaker 47 But that's how the NFL is too, though.

Speaker 61 Like all those leagues, that's what they consider the NFL,

Speaker 2 but also the CFL, like the roots of the NFL are from 1920 or something.

Speaker 13 Is there a really old franchise inside the CFL that is older than the CFL itself?

Speaker 7 Because that's a good way to do it.

Speaker 10 What's the oldest CFL franchise?

Speaker 28 I don't know. Well, you get on that.
Find out what.

Speaker 47 I will find out.

Speaker 10 Even though this is contrary to what we want to do, we want to do unchecked, but I'm asking you to check.

Speaker 9 Do you remember when Baltimore was in the CFL?

Speaker 32 Oh, that was a time.

Speaker 58 Stallions, right?

Speaker 41 They brought back the Colts, I believe.

Speaker 58 Baltimore Stallions.

Speaker 45 Was it? Yeah?

Speaker 41 Yeah, it was a horse of some sort. Yeah.

Speaker 26 So the Great Cup originally was a hockey trophy, and then the league that handed out the trophy then got another trophy, so they gave it to the Canadian Dominion football champion.

Speaker 26 So they just were were like well we have this extra trophy you guys can have it's a hand-me-down it's efficient

Speaker 43 we got another point in your favor right now the toronto argonauts are the oldest franchise in the cfl and the oldest professional football team in north america they were founded in 1873 come on what are we talking about here while the cfl as a league was officially formed in 1958 several teams like the argonauts predate the league by decades you think i would just peddle that stat you don't think i've heard that a million times well you said the cfl is older than i know but it is yeah i get that see that's why we check it It is.

Speaker 23 The NFL, the merger didn't happen until the 60s. Right.

Speaker 40 We're really bending over backwards to make you right.

Speaker 27 Thank you. We're trying.

Speaker 66 The field goal post at the front of the end zone, that's a Canadian thing. That's where they got it from.

Speaker 18 Oh, for real? Yeah.

Speaker 24 That was the reason why they changed it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, because it's Canadian.

Speaker 27 Because they're not as voluntary.

Speaker 34 We still like big hits.

Speaker 66 We got an extra defender out there.

Speaker 9 If you could take one rule from modern-day CFL and apply it to the NFL, is it running starts?

Speaker 32 One point.

Speaker 4 Ruge.

Speaker 60 One, I don't know.

Speaker 49 I don't think it's running starts.

Speaker 61 I think it's no fair catches.

Speaker 27 Oh,

Speaker 67 no fair catches, no touchbacks. You hated returning puns.

Speaker 44 CTE.

Speaker 37 I did, but we had a five-yard halo.

Speaker 67 So no fair catches, no touchbacks.

Speaker 9 But you're like strict with the halo.

Speaker 37 But if you're inside of five yards when I catch the ball, it's a penalty.

Speaker 33 And also, if I take a knee in the end zone, the defense gets one point.

Speaker 58 What about a slightly wider field than the NFL? That's fun.

Speaker 36 You want

Speaker 49 big scores and touchdowns.

Speaker 4 Make the field wide.

Speaker 19 Is that why the field is wider?

Speaker 10 Is it the metric system?

Speaker 32 It's in meters, isn't it?

Speaker 18 Yeah, but it's not the same.

Speaker 41 same it's not equal it's still like yeah the field is 110 yards long which would be 100 meters yeah to the nfl's 100 yards the end zones are 20 yards long each end zone so you could be on the 10 yard line but sideline from a 25 yarder for a touch sideline to sideline it's also wider sideline and the sideline is also wider so when they call it when they're like okay it's if third down and 35 meters like this no they don't do that because there's only three downs in the cfl so third down and 35 meters you better punt it you gotta pun it you got you go two and outs Dude, only three downs.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 32 You're talking

Speaker 32 about the offense.

Speaker 31 Hold on.

Speaker 27 That's a big advantage in the CFL.

Speaker 10 You want to make NFL football more fun.

Speaker 18 Less downs.

Speaker 31 Less downs. Less downs.

Speaker 10 Why are we doing four downs?

Speaker 18 Let's go three downs.

Speaker 47 Hey, you're preaching my language right now, brother.

Speaker 2 There is no football that was more fun to me than playing in the CFL.

Speaker 10 Why isn't CFL football

Speaker 42 more popular?

Speaker 10 Do they play at the same time as the NFL? Is the season?

Speaker 21 It starts earlier, but it gets a lot colder earlier.

Speaker 36 Championship is like Thanksgiving week.

Speaker 41 We have an update on the Baltimore Stallions.

Speaker 45 Yes.

Speaker 27 Former Great Cup champion, Baltimore Stallions.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 32 We took to the Great Cup too.

Speaker 10 Went down there. This is like what the last one.

Speaker 32 I think they folded, too.

Speaker 26 They won the Great Cup, and that was it.

Speaker 32 It's really unfortunate.

Speaker 10 Leave on top like George Costanza, right? I'm out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Did they relocate or they just totally shut her?

Speaker 27 We'll keep working it. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I'm fascinated, though, by this idea of could the CFL be a TV product that would be successful in the the U.S. if their season just didn't coincide with the thing that takes everyone's attention?

Speaker 49 The answer is no, because each roster has to have at least 19 Canadians.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 58 Right?

Speaker 2 So there's like also like certain positions that are more Canadian than others.

Speaker 50 We'll call it that way.

Speaker 49 Like what? Like offensive linemen.

Speaker 32 A lot of the old linemen are Canadian.

Speaker 52 Safety.

Speaker 61 You have a lot of Canadians.

Speaker 69 He's talking about secret sauce.

Speaker 23 The secret sauce.

Speaker 27 Nationalism.

Speaker 23 Possession slot receivers.

Speaker 39 It's going to come as a shock.

Speaker 12 They have black eyes.

Speaker 45 No, no, I know.

Speaker 24 I'm saying, but their secret sauce is like a certain amount of money.

Speaker 67 Their secret sauce is in those linebacker linebacker must be a great Canadian.

Speaker 2 You're not going to see a lot of white corners in the CFL. D-linemen.

Speaker 2 Outside receivers.

Speaker 43 So the further away from that ball, the less Canadian.

Speaker 37 There's just like, hey, we can find that here.

Speaker 2 They don't come to America to get things they can find to feed the ratio.

Speaker 24 Big 6'6, 330-pound guy.

Speaker 37 We got that right here in Nova Scotia.

Speaker 58 That's nothing to us.

Speaker 70 When a lumberjack at Saskatoon, we got ourselves a linebacker straight out of Calgary.

Speaker 36 Not a big deal.

Speaker 47 You know, so there's that.

Speaker 37 So that would make it tough. Because also, and this goes to the UFL as well.

Speaker 2 What the NFL does great is they do great character development, right?

Speaker 23 There's a cycle like we see the high school kids. This kid's a five-star.

Speaker 68 Jeremiah Smith, where's he going to go? Miami, Ohio State.

Speaker 23 Goes to Ohio State. You've watched him again.

Speaker 61 Then as they get to the NFL, you're now seeing pass or fail.

Speaker 2 And then they do well. And the Lamar Jackson story arc is nuts.

Speaker 2 It's hard for the UFL because I don't know these guys and there's no way to get me as caught up, but you're giving me the same broadcast.

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