Local Hour: The Moment of Silence for MJ's Drive

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Speaker 14 There's nobody

Speaker 14 last night who was more delighted by the turn of events

Speaker 14 than the one and only Dan Lebatard. Oh my God, I had to do a two-hour stream with him last night, and it happened right when that Bulls game was ending.
We had Nick right on, and it was crazy, right?

Speaker 14 Dan, I could see Dan, who's obviously not here, he's out of town. I could see him like want to parachute back in and do the show today.
And I said, no, no, we can't do that. We got it.

Speaker 14 We got it from here. But the second happiest person has to be Stephen A.
Smith. This is like the exact other side of the coin from the Pacers game, right? Pacers game happens.
LeBron's in Indiana.

Speaker 14 He does Pat McAfee. They post all the memes.
Him and Kevin Lover tag teaming, like the, ha ha, look at Stephen A. Smith trying to box and all that stuff.

Speaker 14 And then LeBron has a tip in to win the game and it's like top of the mountaintop that's why you don't mess with the big dog and then literally one night later LeBron has that turnover and then Josh Giddy of all people hits a half court shot over him and I know somewhere Stephen A.

Speaker 14 Smith popped just straight up explosion of ecstasy right but there is someone who is the saddest person in all of these proceedings. It's not LeBron.

Speaker 14 I don't think he's sad. I mean, it happens.
He's going to play another game. They'll play Memphis on Saturday.
We move on, right?

Speaker 14 It's not the Lakers who are seeing their playoff seating in jeopardy here.

Speaker 14 It's Skip Bayless.

Speaker 14 Do you understand Skip Bayless spent over a decade?

Speaker 21 This is a great take.

Speaker 22 Right?

Speaker 23 Like, needling LeBron, calling him all sorts of names, trying to bait him, like, acknowledge me.

Speaker 20 Just acknowledge me once.

Speaker 24 Come on, I dare you.

Speaker 14 I'll debate me here and all that stuff, right? And he did a show with Stephen A. Smith, and he was doing this.

Speaker 14 And he did a show with shannon sharp and he's doing this and then he did a show with little wayne and a bunch of other people and he was doing this right and then he stepped away from doing a show said i'm gonna go chill in my house i'll do some stuff on that's definitely how that went right with joe dean he has

Speaker 20 right for ernestine

Speaker 14 right so like it's like all right okay well whatever we gave the old college try 20 years it didn't work all right and then the moment he steps aside

Speaker 14 not only does this thing happen, it happens to Stephen A. Smith.
And not the Skip like, I've been here this whole time.

Speaker 14 I've been saying wild shit the whole time.

Speaker 14 Why did you acknowledge me? Why did you run up on me?

Speaker 21 Isn't that connected, though, in some ways?

Speaker 14 Is it?

Speaker 29 Because isn't this probably why LeBron, when he felt the comments from Stephen A.

Speaker 30 Smith, was probably more disappointed in Stephen A. Smith, and he doesn't care what Skip says.

Speaker 29 And that's probably just hurt Skip even more.

Speaker 6 Of course.

Speaker 29 That it's like, I not even looked at with enough respect to get under your skin.

Speaker 14 The most aggrieved part of here is Skip Bayless.

Speaker 14 Because not only did it not happen to him, Hawk, he doesn't have an opportunity to go on air across like across the nation, nationwide TV, and do his thing.

Speaker 36 He's in like a straitjacket.

Speaker 14 Yeah, like you're at the crazy farm, and all of a sudden it's like, that was me.

Speaker 11 And they're like, okay, Grandpa, you're like, I was the one doing that first.

Speaker 27 Sure, sure.

Speaker 37 Okay, also, Dak Prescott trade rumors.

Speaker 3 He's probably losing his mind.

Speaker 14 Talk about Dan wanting to parachute in.

Speaker 32 This is how I feel when I see

Speaker 40 crazy route footwork videos going viral nowadays or like a bunch of short receivers in the NFL being superstars.

Speaker 35 I feel like I'm in that straitjacket.

Speaker 29 I'm skip Bayless in that situation.

Speaker 27 I was short first.

Speaker 14 The funny thing is just that, is that idea that you say that, and on some level, you're right. But everyone looks at you like, oh, okay.

Speaker 26 Okay, old man.

Speaker 20 Get a little.

Speaker 27 Maybe it might be bedtime.

Speaker 14 That good CTE is acting up again.

Speaker 41 The fun CTE.

Speaker 22 See, it's messed up, man.

Speaker 31 I do feel, now I feel bad for Skip Bayless, and I didn't before you started this take.

Speaker 14 It's sad, man. It's sad.

Speaker 14 And, like, legitimately, the feeling of,

Speaker 14 hey, man, I created this thing.

Speaker 14 I champion this thing. And then someone else is going to take it from me and make it...
way more popular to the point where no one's going to acknowledge where it came from. It's got to be...

Speaker 45 I gotta be honest, I mean, I hadn't thought of him this entire time.

Speaker 17 You're the first person to actually invoke his name.

Speaker 38 It's you. Revolving this.

Speaker 14 It's me. It is me.

Speaker 37 He's probably grateful for this because, I mean, granted, I know he loves to take, right?

Speaker 12 He wants to weigh in on this.

Speaker 8 He wants to have the outlet, but to not have a platform, to not even being

Speaker 48 that's kind of cruel.

Speaker 30 I think I'm just now realizing that Stephen A and Skip had the same take this whole time?

Speaker 21 That was confusing, right?

Speaker 3 But I guess he was doing his villainy thing when not exactly fully opposite of Stephen A.

Speaker 51 I feel like my childhood was. They were on the same team a lot.

Speaker 40 I feel like my childhood was a lie.

Speaker 14 Was Stephen A doing the ultimate yes-and?

Speaker 14 Or no, but? He was doing no, but. He was doing no, but.

Speaker 53 He was doing no, but the whole time.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Right? Like, every time him and Skip would get together, Skip would say this and he would no butt him as opposed to yes and him, which is great for debate television, right?

Speaker 14 That's exactly what you want but secretly deep down inside because like think about all the things that stephen a said right like that's why i never liked him he's a backstabber he's all these things he said on first take the next day it's like oh man did you always feel like this apparently

Speaker 12 And I saw a clip of Nick Wright's show where he's like, Jordan texts Stephen A. LeBron doesn't text Stephen A.
And that's basically this whole thing.

Speaker 43 And I was like, why

Speaker 12 am I just learning that Jordan texts Stephen A?

Speaker 3 Why wasn't this agenda more clear to me?

Speaker 26 No, no.

Speaker 14 What happened there? Jordan texts, he texts all his main guys, you know.

Speaker 43 Does he text you? I mean,

Speaker 14 there's a reason why he's coming to the funeral.

Speaker 14 Jordan's coming to my funeral.

Speaker 23 Jordan's not coming to your funeral.

Speaker 21 He's coming to my funeral.

Speaker 41 Jordan is not coming to your funeral.

Speaker 23 He's coming to my funeral.

Speaker 14 I just got to make sure I die in North Carolina.

Speaker 25 Jordan, who? Oribe's there.

Speaker 40 Hopefully he's there.

Speaker 29 Belfort.

Speaker 25 You got to die in North Carolina while he's there.

Speaker 12 Preferably at maybe the 17th hole.

Speaker 5 Because that's where the wake is.

Speaker 12 And he can grab a cocktail on the way there, just kind of wave.

Speaker 20 And you have to walk through the way to get to the parking lot.

Speaker 55 Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 12 No one can talk during his backswing, though.

Speaker 5 No memories of the swords.

Speaker 47 It's quiet. It's quiet during the backswing.

Speaker 37 Like the moment of silence is for MJ's drive, not for a meme.

Speaker 29 His putter has to be positioned right by your casket when he gets on the green of hole 17.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 29 And that is the only way he will be at a meme's favorite.

Speaker 12 And his memory of you will be directly tied to his performance on that hole.

Speaker 17 Like, it needs to be a good.

Speaker 3 The very least par.

Speaker 43 The very least par.

Speaker 29 And someone had to have bet him before he got to the golf course that he bet

Speaker 19 he could not

Speaker 32 go for par and go to your funeral.

Speaker 14 That's a parlay, right?

Speaker 26 A literal parlay of parliament.

Speaker 21 That's good.

Speaker 52 Yes, that is the only way.

Speaker 26 He might speak.

Speaker 48 He might share his thoughts.

Speaker 49 Oh, wow.

Speaker 23 Well, hold on now.

Speaker 14 This whole time I've been fixated on Michael Jordan being at my funeral. I never considered Michael Jordan saying a couple words.

Speaker 12 Yeah, provided that everything is at the 17th hole at his local course

Speaker 12 and you work it out with his tea time. He will definitely speak, provided he eagles.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Oh, man. Okay.
Let me get on that.

Speaker 42 And by speaking, he's going to ask where the bathroom is.

Speaker 14 No, hold on now. You're not going to do this to me.

Speaker 21 He's not coming to your funeral with me.

Speaker 22 He's coming to my funeral. He's not.

Speaker 52 This is what we're going for.

Speaker 29 I'm willing to bet so much money.

Speaker 25 Let's put it in your will. Sure.

Speaker 39 That if I'm wrong, I will give this money to your estate, to whoever you like, whoever you're leaving all your assets to.

Speaker 14 Yes, I like that.

Speaker 30 And this is kind of doing me a disservice because Mike's going to see this and he's going to consider it a challenge.

Speaker 21 Yeah. Because I'm saying something.

Speaker 17 Andrew Hawkins couldn't do it.

Speaker 27 Andrew Hawkins. Couldn't do it.

Speaker 52 You might do it.

Speaker 28 Jordan can't do.

Speaker 41 Okay.

Speaker 30 He is not coming to your funeral.

Speaker 14 Yeah, and that's when he took it personal. He might take that personal.

Speaker 42 That is my honest belief.

Speaker 14 I want to see someone else take it personal. Let's take a look at the shot that Josh Giddy hit here.
So Austin Risa just made a layup, right? Go ahead and run it.

Speaker 14 I mean, inbound, Josh Giddy brings it up exactly half court over LeBron, might I add. Crowd goes nuts.

Speaker 37 I understand.

Speaker 12 You tried to provide some context. There was a layup made beforehand.

Speaker 12 There was so much that happened.

Speaker 3 There's so much.

Speaker 57 It was like the craziest 15 seconds.

Speaker 14 Yes, the entire segment sequence, we'll play it in a second, but I wanted to show the shot itself because this was Dan Lebatard's reaction, his live reaction at finding out that the shot was made.

Speaker 14 Go ahead.

Speaker 58 All right, Luca is inbounding it.

Speaker 58 LeBron breaking open to the top.

Speaker 59 He gives it to Reeves. Reeves to the basket.
Lay up good. Oh, LeBron never even touches the ball.
The Bulls are out of timeouts. Giddy from half court.

Speaker 2 No, that's

Speaker 2 good. No.
Giddy made it. No, no, no.
You're making that up.

Speaker 3 Giddy made it from half court. No, you're making that up.

Speaker 24 You're making that up.

Speaker 2 He's

Speaker 2 good.

Speaker 21 You can't do that you can't

Speaker 2 get

Speaker 2 up a phone yeah

Speaker 14 dan

Speaker 14 dan was about seven mezcals deep at that point you could tell by the hue the rich hue in his face he was fueled off of lots and lots of alcohol and and was absolutely beside himself.

Speaker 14 He actually falls back in his chair after that.

Speaker 20 Right?

Speaker 14 There's a shot of him with his feet above his head, and then he flips over, and then Valerie comes and checks on him.

Speaker 14 If you didn't see that, you got to watch it. It's on YouTube, the whole thing.
All two hours of it.

Speaker 14 There's another person I want to point out because Dan, we had Dan's reaction, we got Nick Wright's reaction. And you know how, I don't know if you guys believe in reincarnation.

Speaker 14 Do you guys believe any of you guys believe in reincarnation? Sometimes...

Speaker 42 You're not, Mike's not coming to your funeral.

Speaker 21 Okay.

Speaker 20 No,

Speaker 27 I'll come to my own.

Speaker 52 You're going to be there.

Speaker 21 Buddy, I'll come to my own funeral.

Speaker 60 How about that?

Speaker 17 Hey, resurrection. Hey.

Speaker 14 You know, some people believe in reincarnation. Some people believe in whatever that thing was from the the movie Fallen.

Speaker 14 You guys remember Fallen with Denzel Washington where the spirit, file, exactly, the spirit goes from person to person, right? The spirit of Stugats was in the building last night

Speaker 14 because Josh Giddy hits that shot and they cut to the crowd and there's a dad and his kid, I think, courtside and they're jumping up and celebrating.

Speaker 14 And this kid, ladies and gentlemen, he's holding a Laker jersey in his hand. This kid was rooting for the Lakers.
Josh Giddy hits that shot, jersey comes off.

Speaker 14 Let me jump up and down with everybody else. Ladies and gentlemen, Sugats, we found them.

Speaker 24 Right there.

Speaker 14 That's them right there. Man.

Speaker 12 It's one of the more insane endings to a game.

Speaker 51 Oh, man.

Speaker 14 Especially the way the Bulls have been playing recently. Like, this is, dare I say it, this is the feel-good story of March at least, right?

Speaker 22 For sure.

Speaker 14 They're cresting in an insane way. And you know why they're cresting, Mike? Why? Because Disturb played a concert at their arena.
They burned the banners. They damaged the banners.

Speaker 14 And I said on that day, now they got to put up new ones.

Speaker 22 New banners.

Speaker 14 And kobe white said heard you so did josh getty by the way so did josh get kidding he's been playing insane well he's down with the sickness

Speaker 55 i don't know how to answer that because there's anything that happened i don't know

Speaker 47 i'm not i don't even know what that means either i'm just gonna say yes but everybody's response tells me it's something i shouldn't touch it's it's it's not for your demo okay perfect it does work multiple prongs but i was really doing the oh wow Thang.

Speaker 55 I don't like that. I still don't get that.

Speaker 42 So I haven't watched a bunch of NBA games, as you guys well know here.

Speaker 33 But I did catch this ending.

Speaker 29 And I do feel like Amin is not doing this game justice.

Speaker 42 No.

Speaker 33 You come out with an agenda.

Speaker 35 I had an agenda? You had an agenda.

Speaker 42 You come out with the Stephen A. Smith, LeBron.

Speaker 33 You let that story continue to go on. You give it another day of life out the gate.

Speaker 31 Then you show just the last shot of that game, which is maybe 6%.

Speaker 25 Yeah. of that.

Speaker 33 The story, and again, I'm not the basketball purist.

Speaker 39 You are.

Speaker 29 This is the game that you protect.

Speaker 31 Yes. That you love.

Speaker 31 That you champion.

Speaker 22 True.

Speaker 28 This is maybe the best ending of a basketball game that you will ever see.

Speaker 33 Period.

Speaker 28 Now, look, the stakes aren't playoffs, championship.

Speaker 4 But in a vacuum, not only that, Giddy airballs a floater over LeBron because he's scared.

Speaker 24 Right.

Speaker 29 He's having a great game.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 29 He's like one assist shy of a triple-double.

Speaker 34 And I know all this because it's literally the only three minutes of basketball that I've watched this entire year.

Speaker 30 But it was pretty good.

Speaker 14 But they were within it.

Speaker 21 I'm like, damn.

Speaker 21 It's a good show.

Speaker 28 It's like when you jump in on a show that everyone else is watching, like you watch Game of Thrones, and you're like, wow, I see what the killed next to me.

Speaker 27 I see what the hype is.

Speaker 28 And you jumped in on the best episode.

Speaker 39 Giddy airballs a floater from point-blank range.

Speaker 20 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 22 After having a great game.

Speaker 14 I think we have the entire sequence.

Speaker 4 We should.

Speaker 60 Here we go.

Speaker 14 I don't even know if we're allowed to show this, but we're going to show it. Who cares?

Speaker 27 Let's get fine.

Speaker 62 It's not my money.

Speaker 14 You got a corner three right there from Williams, from Patrick Williams.

Speaker 27 Corner three.

Speaker 27 This is after the airball.

Speaker 52 Stolen.

Speaker 14 Stolen.

Speaker 4 Giddy with this. I think.

Speaker 21 Giddy with the steal.

Speaker 41 That was his triple-double assist.

Speaker 27 And Giddy with the assist, but to Kobe White.

Speaker 14 But do you know who Giddy stole the ball from?

Speaker 14 Do you know who Giddy stole the ball from?

Speaker 21 Yes, I saw it.

Speaker 27 It was an inbound from LeBron.

Speaker 23 From LeBron. Wow.

Speaker 14 Like for that, from the peak of I won the game with a tap to I threw the game away. I threw the game away.
That's the thing.

Speaker 24 That's an unexpected.

Speaker 20 I mean, if you stop the game right there, yes, that's the same thing.

Speaker 22 I mean,

Speaker 14 if we could just inbound the ball.

Speaker 28 If we all just died at that moment, then yes, you could leave.

Speaker 42 But they ended up scoring a great play because of the attention on lebron reeves goes right to the cup and at that moment we thought the game was over yeah and it was like oh that narrative is not look no longer going to be there how about patrick wins in that three by the way i was gonna

Speaker 14 that's like if you're jj ready

Speaker 21 a miracle

Speaker 14 and then there's the austin reeves layup and then and here comes no timeouts bulls inbound get it back to giddy great defense

Speaker 28 well something's gotta be on giddy there right yeah i mean you get the every the most dangerous guys are everywhere else.

Speaker 17 I mean, LeBron had a hand-up.

Speaker 43 It was a close-out to the side.

Speaker 19 It was a heave from half court.

Speaker 52 It was a great guy like Giddy.

Speaker 14 Josh Giddy. The most dangerous guy.

Speaker 20 He's the most dangerous guy with the ball. Thank you.

Speaker 14 That's always the most dangerous guy.

Speaker 14 So this was our version of March Madness in the NBA. Meanwhile, college basketball had a very different March Madness poll.

Speaker 52 Hold on.

Speaker 14 Are you going to transition? Yes.

Speaker 31 To college basketball?

Speaker 35 Yes. All right, can I give a disclaimer really quick?

Speaker 41 Okay.

Speaker 32 This might come to a shock.

Speaker 31 It's a shock to a lot of people.

Speaker 42 I have no idea who's won a game in the March Madness poll.

Speaker 28 Okay. It's not because I don't like college basketball or March Madness.

Speaker 30 I promised my kids that I would do a bracket.

Speaker 34 Okay.

Speaker 29 And I've been really busy and haven't had a chance to do a bracket yet.

Speaker 42 And so I've been not watching the game so I can still do my bracket and be ethical about my picks.

Speaker 14 Wait, hold on. You guys are going to do a belated bracket?

Speaker 39 They have done theirs.

Speaker 41 I have not filled mine out yet. But I have not.
Oh, wait.

Speaker 14 So you don't go.

Speaker 60 Hold on.

Speaker 17 Second chance brackets are a real thing, but you missed the start of the Sweet Six Seed.

Speaker 14 But I haven't seen any of of these. He's starting from the beginning, not knowing who won any of these.
I have no idea. He's guessing who won, like,

Speaker 14 McNee State versus IO or whatever the game was. Or Clemson, yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 35 So if we're going to do spoilers, I'm going to have to cover my ears.

Speaker 14 Well, we have one spoiler.

Speaker 20 Okay. Two spoilers.

Speaker 51 Two spoilers? Because there was four games last week.

Speaker 19 Well, no, we're not going to talk about all the...

Speaker 14 We're just going to talk.

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Speaker 65 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 14 If Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

Speaker 24 Oh, come on.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I would be.

Speaker 17 Aggressive description.

Speaker 2 I mean, what is it?

Speaker 14 What is that? I'm just saying.

Speaker 27 No, no, no. You're just saying what? That's me.

Speaker 17 Daniel Day Lewis does something.

Speaker 66 I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do? I mean, Stugats.
I jerk off all over myself.

Speaker 12 That's what I do.

Speaker 14 Lincoln, who you outed the other day.

Speaker 66 Don't make this a rejoin.

Speaker 60 This is the Don Levatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 14 As all this is happening in the NBA, and this is, here's the spoiler I'm going to give.

Speaker 14 Alabama wins their game. What? And you know what? We have a stat of the day for this.
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Speaker 58 Alabama won 113 to 88 over BYU last night.

Speaker 65 Alabama won 25 for 51 from three,

Speaker 13 both of which made and attempted our tournament records.

Speaker 65 If Alabama had not made a single two-pointer against BYU, the Crimson Tides still would have won the game by five.

Speaker 29 That's incredible.

Speaker 14 That's incredible, but also,

Speaker 14 I saw that score and I saw the box score and I said to myself, I didn't know they could do that.

Speaker 14 Any of that. You mean score? Like score 113 points in a 40-minute game, hit 25 threes, attempt 50 threes, 51 threes.
I didn't know. Anyone in college could do that.

Speaker 14 And I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking about anyone in college ever.
Because I've seen so much college basketball. And most, most of it is garbage in terms of like production.

Speaker 14 You see flashes of brilliance, like, oh, he's good. Oh, he could be good one day.
But in terms of like, hey, we're going to put together this product and we'll call this basketball.

Speaker 14 Typically, it's not good. It's exciting because they're trying hard and all, but it's not good.

Speaker 20 Like, it's not a good quality.

Speaker 4 What is that voice?

Speaker 21 This is like, oh, well, you, I like college.

Speaker 70 That's the college basketball Pura's voice.

Speaker 21 He's like, it's better than the NBA. They try hard.

Speaker 71 Try hard every game.

Speaker 25 That's the effort voice.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Jeez.

Speaker 56 But here's the thing.

Speaker 36 We've talked about it earlier when I gave you the secret sauce for March Madness was the secret sauce, right?

Speaker 36 It's not that the games are great. It's the collection of games are great because there's so many.

Speaker 25 Yes.

Speaker 11 If you look at the actual games, they suck.

Speaker 14 Most of the time. Most of the time.

Speaker 36 Except for when you get to the actual good teams in the Lead A, Final Four, and whatever.

Speaker 22 But

Speaker 63 Hawk for you, just because you haven't been watching any of them.

Speaker 34 Thank you.

Speaker 36 Secret sauce. What do you think the secret sauce is for the NCWA tournament?

Speaker 42 I think it's because of the collection of games.

Speaker 38 Not only the collection of games, who's playing in them?

Speaker 14 Yeah, what is the secret sauce to the the collection of games? So when you want to talk about a deep tournament run magical performances from a team, right?

Speaker 14 There's a necessary ingredient, and we call it the secret sauce.

Speaker 51 The secret sauce you need to have.

Speaker 25 Every champion has

Speaker 23 a secret sauce.

Speaker 42 Every champion has a secret sauce.

Speaker 34 NCAA champion.

Speaker 29 Every NCAA champion has the secret sauce, the secret sauce.

Speaker 20 White guys. Underdogs.

Speaker 52 Ah, white guys. There it is.

Speaker 17 And basketball, same thing.

Speaker 39 Underdog, white guy.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 36 every team that you see in March Madness that makes a run, that has something fun, Secret Sauce.

Speaker 63 The guy.

Speaker 24 I went home yesterday,

Speaker 14 Tony, and I thought about it. And I went

Speaker 14 back and I said,

Speaker 14 what about those Florida teams that dominated with no one? I said, Lee Humphrey.

Speaker 25 Secret Sauce.

Speaker 14 Then I went to Kentucky. Wait a second.
What about Patino's Kentucky teams with

Speaker 14 Antoine Walker and Derek Anderson and Tony Dunn? They said like 100 pros. Jeff Shepard.

Speaker 14 Right?

Speaker 14 Just that one guy.

Speaker 36 It's the secret sauce. Remember, it's not the the entire recipe.
It's you need that extra little kick on the side.

Speaker 29 Is it that the white guy is like a main part or just that he just needs to be there?

Speaker 8 He needs to briefly be the main character. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Briefly have

Speaker 30 a moment.

Speaker 22 Could be a shot.

Speaker 21 It could be an assistant.

Speaker 8 It's a shining moment if you will.

Speaker 5 Thank you.

Speaker 52 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 61 Now, is that reverse engineered?

Speaker 19 That would be my rebuttal, right?

Speaker 28 Why to literally start that little moment, not even a big deal, but because that moment is the white guy doing it.

Speaker 42 That's the ticket.

Speaker 17 That's the ticket, all right.

Speaker 26 That's what we got last year, yeah.

Speaker 14 Like, we're not drawing up plays for the white guy.

Speaker 54 Well, Christry was pretty sick, but you know, there's white guys everywhere, yeah, you know, the statistics, and so there's like this hot new theory that NIL and the portal have killed the mid-major, which is why you're getting less of the secret sauce for one year and less of the which is for one year.

Speaker 20 It's completely

Speaker 12 if I may, I'm confused because we had Jim Laranega on our March Badness broadcast, and

Speaker 12 uh, I saw Jim Larinaga, and I really don't understand where he's coming from.

Speaker 38 He tweeted something to the effect of like, happy portal.

Speaker 37 Well, he's like, happy portal, where you can lose your entire roster.

Speaker 12 And he's famously shared this story about how, after Miami made the final four run, everybody on his roster came to him asking for a raise.

Speaker 25 It's just, what?

Speaker 43 May I ask you guys?

Speaker 44 Are we doing here? Because Jim Larinaga, okay,

Speaker 12 the big baddie that ruined everything in Miami is apparently NIL or the portal.

Speaker 10 I don't know which one he's talking about, to be fair.

Speaker 54 He could be talking about the portal, he could be talking about NIL.

Speaker 14 Well, hand in hand, right? Like, if you don't give me my NIL, I'll go to the portal.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 63 Miami, basketball.

Speaker 38 Right. Did pretty well with NIL.

Speaker 20 Yes, and the portal.

Speaker 3 Made Elite Eight, made Final Four. Yes.

Speaker 74 They lost.

Speaker 54 Jim will try to convince you that he lost his entire roster the following year.

Speaker 14 He did.

Speaker 60 No, he didn't. Oh, no.

Speaker 20 Oh, man. Wow.
No, he didn't.

Speaker 46 He lost Zay Wong.

Speaker 66 And he lost Jordan Miller. Now, two guys that have been in and out out of the league.

Speaker 74 Good players.

Speaker 3 Replaced him with a first-round draft pick in George, who's playing well for the Wizards. Yes.

Speaker 44 And Matt Cleveland, who Jim Larinega loved and wanted, and twice now said, I prefer him over other guys.

Speaker 48 So he brings in a first-round talent to a core that made it to the final four.

Speaker 66 You still have PAC, you still have Omir.

Speaker 5 You still have Wuka.

Speaker 26 What is happening here?

Speaker 38 They fell off.

Speaker 26 a cliff

Speaker 26 with all that talent.

Speaker 73 And the following year, he followed that up by getting Jalil Bethea, who was the number one guard coming into college.

Speaker 75 And then he quits on the team midway through the year, but it's NIL and the transfer party.

Speaker 14 I'll tell you what it is. I'll tell you exactly what it is, Mike.

Speaker 42 Give it to us. I have a theory, too.

Speaker 14 You ever meet anyone who's like in an open relationship? You ever meet those people?

Speaker 42 I don't hang out with those bars. I mean,

Speaker 35 you're giving us a glimpse into your life right now.

Speaker 22 I mean, the upside-down pineapple thing?

Speaker 14 The upside-down pineapple thing.

Speaker 56 Jimmy L's a swinger, is that what we're getting to?

Speaker 38 I'm not a big cruiser.

Speaker 43 Chris, though, he's on one right now.

Speaker 14 So not necessarily swinging, but like open relationship. Meaning like, hey, man, me and my old lady, like, we have an open relationship.
I can see whatever, you see whatever.

Speaker 14 Inevitably, for all those people, it's great

Speaker 14 when I'm the open part.

Speaker 14 When the other side is the open part, wait a second. Hold on now.
What are we doing here? That's the exact same thing.

Speaker 14 It's like, it's cool to be in an open relationship when you're the one who gets to bang everybody and your significant significant other is dutiful at home and just waiting for you.

Speaker 14 When the significant other takes advantage of the open relationship, now all of a sudden we got a problem. And that's what Jim Lernig is doing.

Speaker 72 But he wasn't being taken advantage of.

Speaker 43 No, no, no.

Speaker 45 The following year, after he followed up a Final Four season with getting a first-round traffic in his roster, we brought back the entire core.

Speaker 38 So like,

Speaker 73 who's doing this?

Speaker 75 Who's the boogeyman that's stealing your players?

Speaker 18 You didn't lose anybody.

Speaker 14 The NBA.

Speaker 12 Like, that following year, which was one one of the more talented Miami teams of all time and one of the most disastrous seasons of all time, only followed up by a more disastrous season that caused him to quit midway.

Speaker 74 It's just, it doesn't hold water, and he's a nice guy.

Speaker 38 I love Jim.

Speaker 74 Greatest coach in the history of the program.

Speaker 73 Love the guy.

Speaker 75 But he keeps perpetuating something that's just flatly not true.

Speaker 73 He made it up.

Speaker 75 It's not, it's not a thing. We had Seth Davis on the show saying the NIL spent.

Speaker 73 I'm like, guy, I know. We got Bathea.
Like, it's not a real thing.

Speaker 35 I have an unchecked theory Oh, because I think you're right.

Speaker 42 So I'll need somebody else to check this. I don't know if we have.

Speaker 53 No, no, no. No checking.

Speaker 24 We don't check around here.

Speaker 20 We just give theories.

Speaker 61 How old is the coach? And I don't want to be an ageist.

Speaker 14 He's pretty old.

Speaker 24 He's pretty that's a good thing.

Speaker 21 One of the oldest.

Speaker 14 One of the oldest.

Speaker 30 I think it's an energy thing.

Speaker 19 I think it's a, I do not feel like

Speaker 31 recruiting in the portal, as well as recruiting high school, as well as recruiting my own players.

Speaker 30 And I feel like a lot of the coaches that have expressed that issue or said, I'm not doing this,

Speaker 14 they all come from the old guard, but it's like, it's a lot.

Speaker 45 You are 100% locked in.

Speaker 43 Wow.

Speaker 74 That is what happened here.

Speaker 14 Unchecked theory? That's why it just got checked.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 57 No, it's flatly what happened here.

Speaker 37 He can be frustrated with the process.

Speaker 72 He lamented plenty around boosters and the collective about this process.

Speaker 74 It's why a lot of people, look, on the women's side, Katie Meyer also retired because of a similar thing, even though she had success at it, even though the collective helped fuel a deep run in their tournament.

Speaker 72 They went to the Elite Eight.

Speaker 3 But it's just, he keeps perpetuating a false narrative because it's convenient.

Speaker 12 You didn't have the energy to keep up with the times.

Speaker 8 It's totally understandable, my guy.

Speaker 74 But it's just a lie and it's become fact.

Speaker 37 You didn't lose anybody to another school after the Final Four.

Speaker 18 You lost two dudes to the NBA and you replaced them with NBA players.

Speaker 72 It's just not accurate. Yeah.

Speaker 42 So you're actually taking advantage of the portal in NIO as opposed to being cursed by it.

Speaker 35 Also, great replacement on the women's basketball side in Coach Cullip.

Speaker 26 Big fan. Yeah.
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I forgot to say that.

Speaker 14 She is a connection.

Speaker 21 She was the Toledo fan. She's got the energy for it.

Speaker 5 She's certainly got the energy.

Speaker 31 I got another secret sauce team, by the way.

Speaker 31 You watch how you say that.

Speaker 14 I said, holy Toledo, Ben.

Speaker 29 No, you said, oh, Toledo. I felt the energy of that.

Speaker 20 Holy Toledo.

Speaker 37 You have to be careful with the secrets. No, no, no.

Speaker 55 This is a secret from.

Speaker 47 He already wrote down Alabama. He knows that he's going to write Alabama.

Speaker 70 Yes, I'm talking about secret sauce team from the past.

Speaker 14 Oh, from the past.

Speaker 36 What you got? 0203 Kansas Jayhawks had two.

Speaker 14 Oh, Kirk Heinrich and Rave La Dudu.

Speaker 52 No, no, Collins Collison.

Speaker 14 Collison, when was Rave La Dudu? Was that before that?

Speaker 55 That might have been before LaMoodle.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Hawk, are you going to watch?

Speaker 8 La Dudu. Are you going to watch?

Speaker 14 How's it pronounced?

Speaker 20 La France. Oh, okay.

Speaker 76 Are you going to watch the games or just like catch up on the results?

Speaker 35 I am probably going to catch up on the results.

Speaker 76 Okay, because there's like a character that gets revealed in the first round that by day one is a darling and by day two, everyone

Speaker 52 hates.

Speaker 20 Yeah. Really?

Speaker 52 Not episode two?

Speaker 76 Not a player.

Speaker 53 Yeah. No, no, no, no.
Wait, wait, We said too much.

Speaker 24 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 76 Not Sister Gene.

Speaker 31 Not Sister Gene.

Speaker 76 Not Sister Gene.

Speaker 14 Is she alive?

Speaker 17 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 19 Is her team any good? No. No.

Speaker 39 It's crazy how. Her team's dead.

Speaker 14 She's alive, though.

Speaker 45 She probably took Miami's first Final Four runaway.

Speaker 17 Geez. Yeah, remember that Lonnie Walker team was a loaded.

Speaker 14 That's right.

Speaker 17 Miami was going to make a run.

Speaker 48 They lost to Sister Gene in the first round, and they made it all the way to the Final Four.

Speaker 14 I want to get to this story here. It's on the list.

Speaker 14 And I want to get to it, part of it because this is a very interesting story but more so because i was outraged by the reaction of one ethan outside at the table

Speaker 14 oh so this basketball this is not basketball okay so this i don't know maybe you're like ethan maybe this might be a revelation to you too uh oh so mike says hey did you hear they declassified the files on the ark of the covenant

Speaker 23 and

Speaker 14 My mind goes to the warehouse and like, oh, they found the box. Like it was an unfinished box.

Speaker 55 Remember, the box in the warehouse, a million boxes in there.

Speaker 14 There's a million boxes.

Speaker 51 So, how do we go through every single box to find it?

Speaker 14 How do we do that? Right. And so, as Mike is starting to explain the story that we'll get to in a second, Ethan says, What's the Ark of the Covenant? That's exactly how he was putting it.

Speaker 70 He said it again. He said, What's the Ark of the Covenant? Again?

Speaker 56 Because he knew it at one point.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I've heard it before, but I'm not quite sure what the Ark of the Covenant is.

Speaker 14 That's how Ethan sounds when he talks about things.

Speaker 14 When he talks about things that you should know, young man, you sound like that to me. That's what your voice sounded like, Ethan.

Speaker 36 Is it possible?

Speaker 14 Juju put it on the poll.

Speaker 14 Like, do you know what the Ark of the Covenant is? Everyone knows what this is, right? And I'm not saying because you know from Bible study.

Speaker 12 Well, he's supposed to be an Old Testament guy.

Speaker 20 Well, that's the other thing. Look.

Speaker 35 Where's he from?

Speaker 35 Where's he originally from? He's from Florida.

Speaker 32 Bible Belt.

Speaker 14 But he's a man of the tribe, is M-O-T. Yeah.
So the Old Testament, at least, which is where...

Speaker 55 Should be locked in on that. Conveniently.

Speaker 27 Conveniently, Arkansas

Speaker 3 dialed on the Ark.

Speaker 20 Ark of the Covenant.

Speaker 23 Come on now.

Speaker 26 Can't let Hitler have it.

Speaker 55 Exactly right.

Speaker 53 That kind of weapon?

Speaker 12 That wasn't not in the Old Testament. That was Indiana Jones.

Speaker 47 But it was King of Cook.

Speaker 14 What about the part where you can't look at him? Eyes closed.

Speaker 20 Well, you can't touch it.

Speaker 60 Part of it. You can't look at it.
You can't look at it.

Speaker 51 Keep your eyes closed.

Speaker 17 There's something to that, by the way.

Speaker 12 And again, I know people think I'm being sarcastic.

Speaker 37 This is declassified. This is real.

Speaker 12 The CIA confirmed the existence of the Ark of the Covenant. They tracked it down by using a psychic.

Speaker 3 And if you think that's ridiculous, just look into their programs.

Speaker 45 That's crazy.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 14 Look, it wasn't just Hitler who was into their cult.

Speaker 12 I mean, if it's like steroids in baseball, you can't let the other guy cheat.

Speaker 8 Exactly.

Speaker 12 You know, you got to cheat too.

Speaker 37 And if the other side is using psychics, then you use psychics too.

Speaker 54 Yeah.

Speaker 12 So, like, they found it, and they even in the declassified documents say that it was guarded by entities.

Speaker 43 This is real stuff.

Speaker 47 Tracks by the entities.

Speaker 45 I'm not kidding.

Speaker 52 My mind's a little blown right now.

Speaker 28 This is the first time I Google it.

Speaker 66 Maybe there's a million fake articles out there that got me, but they all look pretty legit.

Speaker 17 No, I'm with you.

Speaker 70 I saw the declassification. I saw the pictures.
I saw the videos.

Speaker 21 Here's the pictures of it. Dude, you didn't go through like 30,000 documents.

Speaker 76 I didn't have to do it.

Speaker 5 Somebody else did. To be fair,

Speaker 37 an aggregator said.

Speaker 54 Yeah, the entity party.

Speaker 76 But they could say anything, too.

Speaker 17 Of course.

Speaker 14 Does it look like it does in the movie?

Speaker 20 We don't have to remember.

Speaker 21 It was like a crude. They only felt

Speaker 17 it was buried underground.

Speaker 44 That's my issue with that.

Speaker 21 Did they say where?

Speaker 51 That's my issue.

Speaker 36 They can't tell me.

Speaker 5 Was it in Egypt?

Speaker 20 I got to tell you why.

Speaker 36 they won't what how much did they classify well i think by the way between you and me i think it's in ethiopia i that's what i've i've i've done my research and it seems to be in ethiopia by the way there's some stuff there in ethiopia by the way if you look into a little church that they have in ethiopia the oldest church in the world right priests that are there have had some weird things a lot of them die very young because of radiation poisoning we don't know what's going on there i don't know but that's happening

Speaker 76 you haven't gotten to the pyramids that you've been wanting to talk to about

Speaker 76 the pyramids it's everything's connected guys did you see argentinian trump was was declassifying things too and there was like hitler stuff there no i didn't in argentina

Speaker 76 impossible there's i'm just saying this that's being declassified too if you're gonna get into math that's declassifying stuff baby i love it wait so can we declassify the uh lottery files

Speaker 14 What lottery? The draft lottery?

Speaker 52 NBA lottery files?

Speaker 14 Look, man, we already did that on basketball Illuminati. Did we? The third eye open.

Speaker 52 What was the conclusion?

Speaker 14 You're going to have to listen to that episode, man. I'm not going to give away the secret sauce.

Speaker 21 It's classified.

Speaker 63 I I have secret sauce on that show, too.

Speaker 52 I haven't seen the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 28 You think I'm going to go back into the archives to listen to the lottery files?

Speaker 14 Man, look, do you want to find the Ark of the Covenant or not?

Speaker 20 All right, I'm coming.

Speaker 22 I'll be there.

Speaker 32 Hey, 1966, UTEP

Speaker 35 Minors NCAA Championship.

Speaker 27 You just Googled Glory Road.

Speaker 52 I got to debunk the theory.

Speaker 3 They weren't called UTEP at the time.

Speaker 14 What Axis Western?

Speaker 52 The Black College of Texas.

Speaker 40 I don't know what they were called during Jim Crow. Who'd they play against?

Speaker 26 Kentucky.

Speaker 25 White Riley.

Speaker 17 How much did Tim Riley go? Secret sauce.

Speaker 20 Opposite of Hoosiers.

Speaker 21 They lost. No, hold on.
But it doesn't matter if you lose.

Speaker 37 That was back when the Secret Sauce was actually black guys.

Speaker 20 Yes,

Speaker 20 exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Also,

Speaker 21 I didn't consider that.

Speaker 14 Also, the starting five was black. They never talked to us about six through 11, though.

Speaker 26 That's true. No, very true.

Speaker 14 Six through 11 is a different story. It's got a lot.

Speaker 53 It's even Hispanic guy there.

Speaker 14 He made it, maybe he's been a Secret Salsa.

Speaker 17 Texas Western.

Speaker 37 If I may just circle back to the Ark of the Covenants.

Speaker 54 Ah, yes.

Speaker 37 So if we we track down where exactly it was in the 1980s,

Speaker 12 there's no way that we just conceded, well, can't get to it. Guarded by entities, we sacrificed some dudes.

Speaker 5 I'm telling you.

Speaker 43 Like, we move this thing.

Speaker 14 Oh, no.

Speaker 27 It's definitely in touch.

Speaker 27 I don't touch it.

Speaker 26 It's definitely in D.C. No, Mike.

Speaker 19 Nick Nature's going to find it.

Speaker 14 Mike, I know that we attempted to touch it. I don't know if we were successful, right? So you're right, people were sacrificed.
Because Jenkins, get in there. It's like, oh, okay, boss.

Speaker 14 And then he melted. And then

Speaker 14 Rollins, you go in there like, okay,

Speaker 27 Johnson, hustle up in there.

Speaker 14 And like, several hundred black soldiers later,

Speaker 5 secret sauce.

Speaker 14 They were like, okay, maybe we can't touch it. And so they had to figure out something else.
And that's where Dr. Henry Jones comes in.

Speaker 17 Miriam, don't look.

Speaker 17 Keep your eyes closed, Miriam.

Speaker 14 And they managed to crate it, right?

Speaker 11 Remember, the whole thing is you got to take the poles.

Speaker 51 Oh, those wooden poles, you got to stick them to the side,

Speaker 36 and then you put them up like that, like bull bears.

Speaker 54 I just can't believe that we're here.

Speaker 12 It shows you how feeble our minds are because it's, you know, we're in the 2020s and the government has told us, yeah, those UFO things that we always told you were fake when you were growing up.

Speaker 43 No, they exist.

Speaker 66 We don't know who's behind it, but no, they are definitely real.

Speaker 8 And we just keep moving on with our day.

Speaker 37 Yeah. Like, we saw movies about how, hypothetically, if this were to happen, it would be on newspapers everywhere.

Speaker 45 And we're just like, nah, I can't comprehend that.

Speaker 38 Got my own s ⁇ .

Speaker 50 Can't deal with that right now.

Speaker 21 Same thing with the ARC.

Speaker 23 Tournaments going on.

Speaker 14 Number one, you can't. Yeah, exactly.
You can't blame people. It's March Madness.
Number two, this to me is a much bigger story than UFOs. Much bigger.

Speaker 53 Arc yourself.

Speaker 14 Yeah, life on other planets.

Speaker 43 Okay. The existence of God.

Speaker 14 The existence of God and also still not to be messed with.

Speaker 3 Well, that's very true.

Speaker 12 I always rationalize the UFO thing with, you know, there's just so many theologies. And that kind of thumbs its nose at it, right?

Speaker 12 Like, if I I am to accept that there are alien life forms elsewhere that are behind these UFOs, then I have to take a look at my own theology.

Speaker 26 This one actually confirms like a pretty big one, or a couple of them, right?

Speaker 12 So you would think it'd be processed a little bit more, but everyone's just kind of looking at it like, this is ridiculous. It's fake.

Speaker 43 But it's there.

Speaker 56 Here's my issue with it, right?

Speaker 36 It's the fact that the psychic, we only had one psychic do it, or do we have multiple?

Speaker 51 Do we have multiple sources here?

Speaker 8 Or was it one guy or one girl like, oh my God, yeah, no, I see it for sure.

Speaker 36 It's underground oh we can't get to it's guarded by entities yeah sorry guys what's the check hold on 50 grand

Speaker 14 okay I think for the second time in this segment we finally found where Stugats is with the CIA yeah he's a psychic

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