The Best Look in the World

Hey, everybody, welcome to the Lonely Island Seth Meyers podcast.

And I want to start by saying, with Here We Go, I reached out to Joe to get a voice note.

Here I go.

Excuse me.

Here I go.

And Joe basically said, I'm doing something.

Can I get it to you tomorrow?

And I said, yes.

That is now eight days ago.

I have actually written to him a couple more times being like, any chance?

And radio silence.

But just so you know, that is probably forthcoming at some point.

We'll just run it whenever he gets it to us.

Whenever it gets in.

A couple of things I forgot to mention last week, which would have been a more opportune time to read some comments about Here I Go.

Someone wrote in because obviously there was a great dog in Here I Go.

Someone wrote in, was Frisbee ever in the running to be the dog?

Now, obviously that listener knows the long-standing feud between you, Andy, and my Italian Greyhound Frisbee.

Yeah.

What would you have thought about Frisbee being the dog?

And here I go.

I mean, why would I ruin the video?

I mean, the audience would have recoiled at seeing Frisbee.

Because you don't think she's a pretty dog.

Do you think the audience would have cheered seeing Frisbee being arrested?

Like, get that dog off the road.

Oh.

You'll never have to see her again, yeah.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

Get her off the street.

Somebody mentioned that song from Big Lebowski.

I just checked in to see what condition my condition was in as a sort of backing up your use of condition.

Yeah.

They felt as though we missed missed the best example of it.

I see.

Yeah.

Did people understand the line or were they mostly?

Yeah, more people had your back than didn't.

Yeah.

They were also just probably the ones that would write in because they're like proud, like, I got it.

Yeah.

Also, the moment on the porch we love so much with the guys crossing and uncrossing your legs.

We sort of talked about the underneath the hair dryers at the salon.

That was Bills, Bill's, Bills by Destiny's Child.

So that's just, that's just addressing some of the comments and also to prove that we read them.

So, you know, do plant your flag in the ground and know that we'll get around to it.

By the way, Jorm's in Finland shooting.

Have we said it this episode yet?

Oh, man.

We got to do that at the top of the episode.

This is

one I've been looking forward to as well.

Dak Riger last week, I was obviously, best look in the world

is a disaster.

Do you look forward to bad ones more than good ones?

Well, because I love it.

I love everything Andy was trying to do.

I think about lines from it all the time.

Andy?

Yeah.

What's the nugget of the idea for Best Look in the World?

I don't remember how it started, but it was certainly based on many, many convos about like,

I mean, I've talked a lot about like a lot of people in our generation had slumber parties where their dad came out in his tidy whiteies wearing a t-shirt and yelled at everyone.

And then a lot of people that wear suits, you know, you have that moment where you put on the dress shirt first and you look like that and you're like, oh man, this is bad.

So socks, socks with garters, and then a shirt.

Exactly.

Black socks, dress shirt, no pants.

And just talking about how that is basically like as bad as,

in this case, a man could look.

Yeah.

And then trying to build out a whole song around that, but reclaiming it and saying it's the best look in the world sarcastically.

Fair to say that the take on it is a real Hank Williams Jr.

Are you ready for some football vibe?

Absolutely.

Right down the middle, that was the inspiration visually.

I guess I should just start out by getting this out of the way and saying, I love music.

I know a lot about music.

That is a genre of music I had no business touching.

You know what I mean?

But us now, we could do so much better.

So much better.

Well, I want to, to prove the point, when you start singing and here I go, it immediately sounds great.

Thanks.

We've learned a lot.

You're immediately the worst you've ever sounded.

On best look in the world.

Absolutely.

It's out of your register.

You're a mess.

And

there's no rest for the weary.

weary like it's super fast way too high yeah

looking good let me tell you about a lookout no

san diex to go it's not teacher

pants dress shirt blacks back put them both on the takeoff

face

Would you argue it's the worst you've sounded?

I would.

Yeah, I mean, in a lot of ways, yes, because the video is telling you that what you're seeing is like a quote-unquote big one.

There's lighting rigs and stuff, you know what I mean?

It's okay to sound bad like that sometimes when it's on purpose and it's the character and that's the point, but it isn't helping in this one.

This one, I was surprised how much I liked all the jokes and how much I couldn't stand them right now when I just re-watched, I mean, because of the bad music.

Yeah.

And I really honestly wondered how much better it would be if we had moved it into your range and made it sound good and then did the exact same lyrics, everything the same.

It would be so much better.

Yep.

You're both super fun.

I like looking at you.

The cutaways are great.

Yep.

It drills down to the premise.

It's so hard to hear.

It's so hard to hear.

You're singing so fast and the lyrics are so dense.

Yeah.

And I could not, there were parts of it I could not parse.

And so I went to the old on YouTube, the closed caption.

Oh,

and it was the best because it just said closed captioning unavailable.

It just pooped out.

YouTube basically said, this isn't for us.

Oh, my God.

I mean, let me tell you about a look I know from San Diego down to Mexico.

That's not really that far.

No.

And by the way, also, you're leaving out that it's like, let me tell you about a look.

Right out of the gate.

Again, it's one I think about all the time.

Now, we have a couple voice notes today.

Okay.

Because there were people involved in it.

One that I'm going to ask Jeff to play right now is Rob Klein

loves this so much.

He's always, I have not heard of this.

I just said to Rob, please record your thoughts about best look in the world.

This is Rob Klein, who we've talked about a lot.

Yep.

SNL writer, dear friend.

Okay, the best look in the world.

I guess this is Shia's second short after he did dear sister.

And I just re-watched them both.

And I don't know what you guys have been saying.

I actually felt like Best Look in the World is maybe the less good one of the two in terms of overall quality.

I don't know where you guys are at on that.

Having said that,

it has brought me so much joy over the years.

I genuinely will sometimes just Google the lyrics to Best Look in the World and read them and laugh in my room by myself.

I think what is truly special about it is it is so fast, but also so densely written with like baroque turns of phrase where it's basically like you're trying to read Shakespeare while you are riding on the mummy ride at Universal Studios.

Hiloaf, pale stems, your Jimmy cap is crowning like a newborn.

You're given nanoseconds to process these new phrases you've never heard before moving on.

Let's see.

I would also say Andy's vocals are hanging on by their fingertips,

which does make it funnier.

And I genuinely like.

And this is the only new observation I had.

I guess I always thought it was like when you come home from a wedding, you take your dress pants off, and then you've got your shirt, you've got your socks.

That's what you're wearing.

I thought that's basically what this is referencing.

But then almost immediately, it says, put on the shirt and socks and take off your underpants, which is not

what you would do.

You wouldn't walk around with no underwear with the white shirt.

So,

and that's fine, but I guess what little logic I thought I identified is absolutely not there, but I do love it.

Thank you, Klein.

Wow.

I mean, it's true.

Pale stems, pea loafs for penny loafers.

Penny loafers, yeah.

And I should know.

It's good.

So in the beginning, Shia walks into a locker room.

Andy's getting ready.

Shia is taking it back.

We only see that Andy's in a white button-up.

We don't see his lower half.

And Shia said, I thought you said you were ready to go.

And you're like, I am ready to go.

And I will say Shia has that really natural acting style.

He says, where are your pants?

It's such a perfect line read.

And then we see you're not wearing it.

And then you say it's the best look in the world.

And then we start the video.

It is.

mind blowing how much pixelation is in this.

I mean, that was part of the sell in our minds.

Yeah, the idea is that you're like, and not all the time, it's just on certain moves it reveals itself because you're wearing a long white dress shirt.

Just to rewind it a hair, though, Seth, before the reveal in the locker room that I'm just wearing what I'm wearing, it already is a psychotic outfit to be in a white dress shirt alone.

Right, without the jacket or the suit, right?

Yeah, to be like, I'm ready to go, no tie.

Here's why we thought this was going to be something is because for us, that look is iconic.

You thought you had high hopes.

Yeah, we thought because, you know, like, as Yorm always used to call it or still does, porky pig in it.

Yeah.

Meaning the shirt with no pants or the Donald Duck, which is mentioned in the video with the Donald Duck strut that I'm sure you're going to get to, Seth.

Yeah.

And because you loved it, obviously.

But I think we thought, oh, we've identified a trope, much like even Dear Sister, the previous Shia one, identified a trope of like being shot and then not believing it and looking up and looking thing and holding it and where we're like, oh, we've identified a look that everyone knows but hasn't put their finger on and we're going to plant a flag on it somewhere.

And that's going to be something that now belongs to us and this song and this moment.

Everyone's going to relate to this and go, I recognize that.

Now there's an anthem for it.

Dads are going to come out at that slumber party and go, What?

I'm doing my Donald Duck strut.

I don't think we said any of this, but I'm saying, I think that that's like somewhere in at least my subconscious when you're doing something like that.

Let's your dream version of it go.

Yeah, where you're like, oh, I think there's something sticky, as they would say it now in marketing.

You thought that for the last 15 years, anytime anyone saw that, they would go, best look in the world.

That's the dream scenario.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm saying the week we're making it, even if we're not saying these things out loud, when we think we're onto something, you know, oh, this could really be, we might be really onto something here.

While we were shooting it, we thought it was so funny.

That's why this is more humiliating.

Can I, can I ask a question?

I know we haven't even totally delved yet, but if the song had been of a much higher quality, you know what I mean?

If you could hear the words, if I didn't sound terrible, if it was musically satisfying in a way, do you think that is a premise that would have been successful?

I think if the setup had been a dad,

you would have been off to a much better start because a piece would have clicked.

Strong agree.

Even if it was us pretending to be dads.

100%.

Because the fact that it was two young dudes, it made it too hard to get in.

And then immediately, as we said, it's so fast.

The lyrics come so fast that there's no time to learn.

Honestly, the setup you said, Andy, should have been the setup.

It should have been a slumber party.

And they go, hey, keep it down.

And you're like, oh, dad, don't come in here with my friends.

Put pants on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then the dad was like, this, this is the best look in the world.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then I'm immediately just happy seeing some dads do it more.

But if it's a genre of music we feel much more comfortable in, like, say it was me and Justin and it was those dick-in-a-box dudes.

And all of a sudden, that's the hook of that song.

I wonder if it would have been something people would have enjoyed more because they would have been able to actually relax well they definitely more a lot more yeah well the other problem is you and shia then while you're performing the song don't actually have that look because you're also wearing like vests and cowboy hats and cowboy hats yeah so it's like a halfway between hank williams jr and the best look in the world also shia in the beginning is confused and against my look and then immediately joins in on the song yeah i was surprised by that but I was okay with it, just personally.

Yes.

Same, obviously, same.

Well, I just mean right now when I just watched.

Obviously, back then we were just fine with it.

Shoemaker said something, and I hope you guys don't find it damning.

Sure.

Because I watched it with Shoemaker today.

And he said that when you guys left, the show saved so much money on its pixelation budget.

We went to the pixelation barrel a lot.

We like that.

Yeah.

Can you read some of the other lyrics, Andy?

Because you found some.

and like i said i did run out into a brick wall today trying it's top secret and it's just for the gents button up your shirt drop your pants dress shirt black socks put them both on but take off your underpants pylos pale stems we knew those it's top secret i mean right off the bat i'm like it is your lower buttocks has got to show sports sandals are optional there's been a long history of sports sandals and sandals and socks stuff in lonely island work yeah yeah and it's never been hip or now coincidence i'm with you my man this is that fucking speed tweet all over again oh Here it is.

Wait.

So Klein called out your Jimmy Cap is crowning like a newborn, which is a fantastic.

Jimmy Cap, never been called that.

Never been said.

Amazing.

Okay.

It was one of those things where you said it with such confidence.

I thought everybody was saying it.

And I was the last guy to hear.

Jimmy Cap is crowned like a newborn is definitely, definitely my line.

Then toned calves, cool attitude, and then you showed like the inside of an older gentleman's knee for the line.

A soft breeze is tickling your knee pits.

Tickling your knee pits.

You're talking me into that.

This might be good.

On the merits of the writing alone, it does make me giggle.

Yeah.

This is the right way to enjoy it.

I mean, again, this is why it should have been dad's because, again, you don't hear this and think of an old guy.

Also, I've never, I'm looking at the lyric and you can confirm, Andy, that this is the actual words.

I would say I'd never heard it this way: liver spots, flank steak, thighs.

Yeah, that's me.

This is the way it was meant to be received.

Somebody kind of with a little bit of a tone of hatred just reciting the lyrics.

Tell me everything about it.

You hate Seth.

I hate something and you guys.

This is, it found its medium.

And by the way, I bet a lot of our listeners are going to say that Seth is wrong.

This is great.

And I'm happy to be wrong.

I don't know they will.

I don't think they will.

Yeah, yeah.

Illiterate genies.

Sucks.

I did not care for it.

I hated it.

Okay, great.

Dislike.

Re-watching it, I was like, we ran out of steam on what already wasn't working.

It's a dud.

Also, you undersell the premise when you're like, dad's best look in the world like it should have only been dad's correct I mean look hindsight hindsight 2020 I will say like there's a lot of fun stuff here and if you could hear the word like by the way flank steak thighs Should be yelled from the rooftops.

That's fantastic.

And yeah bigger spots flank steak thighs is good.

It's great.

I stand by that.

I mean again pale stems is great.

Love it.

By the way, I'm totally getting off topic.

Very impressed that you got a clean bee today, Samberg.

Thank you.

I did get queen bee today.

Oh, that should have been the headline.

I know.

Didn't send it to me.

I didn't text you, even though I did kind of crave you saying you were happy for me.

Well, I am.

That's a nice Monday.

Great way to start the week for you.

I'm going to throw something out there because I know you guys are making new music.

Give yourself permission to do a Taylor's version on this one.

For real.

Like, you've never done it.

Take this back to the shop because I do think there's something here.

Okay.

Just whole new instrumentation on it, whole new vibes.

Slow it down.

We now are all dads.

You're all dads.

Yep.

New intro, new outro, just audio.

And exact same lyrics, though, right?

But different genre of music, we're saying.

Well, it could be the same.

I don't know.

I still think it's Hank Williams.

I just think he slowed it down a little bit.

I think, by the way, if you know what you knew now, you could do a great version of it with this speed.

Agreed.

Just better sound design.

I will be honest.

I don't want to hear it slowed down.

I want this version, but I want to be able to hear the lyrics better.

I'm with you.

I'll also say this.

I came to country music very late in life.

Like when we made this video, I didn't really listen to it or know anything about it.

And now I really like a lot of country.

And you would then have the same applications of the things you like in music that The Lonely Island does so well.

I mean,

we haven't really properly tried, but I do believe our songs are always better when we have a better understanding of the genre we're working in.

Yeah.

Just like anything.

Also, there's something very fun about a Are You Ready for Some Football song?

Sure.

I remember a line you always pitched for, what was the Black Eyed P's song that was Mozletoff?

I've Got a Feeling.

You guys had a version of an I Got a Feeling song.

But we never did it.

Yeah.

But we never did it.

I know, but there was a line in it that always made me laugh.

It was like a party anthem song that you could use for every, the observation being Mozletoff is in it because then they would play it at Bar Mitzvah's forever.

Yes.

And I remember you once said that one of the lines was, the Chargers won.

It's just like that it was, oh, it was, I remember, there was an idea we had that we never cracked called a song for every occasion.

Yeah.

Yes, yes.

But it was based on, you had explained it to me, it was based on Mazeltoff being in that song.

Yes.

And the Chargers one always made me really laugh.

Which, by the way, a few weeks ago, I already talked about the after party when Charlie hosted.

Yeah.

That song was played.

I've got a feeling.

Wow.

That tonight is going to be a good night.

And the current SNL cast was all really vibing to it.

I believe that.

Hey, Eric Kenward, always been known among all of us as the reverse joast in the fact that 20 minutes ago, I texted him and said, hey, Andy said you had a lot to do with best look in the world.

Can you record a voice note?

20 minutes ago.

Yeah.

The voice note is in.

Bless his heart.

Excellent.

All right.

Best look in the world.

Let me see.

It was a lot of fun.

It was a lot of fun to do.

I'm sure Andy has said this.

I'm sure everyone has said this.

You know, it didn't turn out great.

Andy and I were talking about this recently, and it was kind of like the first time they tried to do sort of a rockabilly, almost country-ish country-ish song, and it was just way too fast.

And we didn't realize that no one is going to be able to understand the lyrics.

I mean, it was one of those ones that I remember writing it and loving it, laughing really hard, thinking it was fantastic, and then watching it on Saturday and just being like, oh, yeah, that's right.

No one can understand this.

But the whole experience was a blast.

I remember like shooting over kind of, you know, know, on the West Side Highway where they shot so many things, but doing it just kind of like run and gun gorilla style with a bunch of extras not wearing any pants.

It's kind of raining and we were just kind of like walking around the neighborhood, sort of looking for shots, places that we could have these guys

strut around.

Yeah, I remember Shia was a really good sport.

My overwhelming memory is that it was a lot of fun, but that, you know, it's not one for the ages, unfortunately.

I hope some of this is useful bye yeah that's about right i remember that night too being like because we had done one with shia that you know we already have talked about dear sister that clearly had an impact and feeling like oh man we we thought we were gonna like hit it again with him and didn't and i felt kind of like guilty We had also done those first Tuesday promos with him that had gone really well.

All right.

I think this week was the first week of Tuesday promos, right?

Is that right?

Yeah.

Or maybe it was the second week, but they were the ones that we liked.

Now that's just a staple.

Yeah.

We've talked about them before, but I believe this was the week where we started and we really liked him because we did kind of like Andy popping into frame style, goofing off on the roof garden.

Let's explore the roof garden.

And it was these promos with Shia that just came back to me.

I'm pretty sure it was for this one.

And so we were like, man, when this guy shows up, he's like, just one of the guys fits in right with us.

We love this.

I definitely felt like we let Shia down, even if he never said anything.

I felt sad that we had squandered him.

He was not squandered.

He was in Magruber.

And do you remember his Magruber, Andy?

You were in one of them.

I was in a Magruber.

You were in a Magruber because Shia played Magruber's son, and it was dawning on Magruber that Shia was gay.

And one of the joyous things about Magruber that people made me forget is that Magruber is a terrible person.

Yes.

Just genuinely a terrible person.

He's a terrible person in the movie.

And one of the great tricks the movie pulls off is that you root for Magruber, even though he tells you throughout the movie he's the worst person in the world.

That's right.

And Magruber is super super upset that Shia's son is gay.

And you are his boyfriend, who are for some reason locked in the whatever.

Calm down.

We are going to be.

What is he doing here?

You guys remember Scott, right?

Yeah, I do.

Dad, Scott is merely a platonic friend.

Stop tickling me.

I don't remember ever being on a Magruber's set.

That's so crazy that I don't remember it because I love Magruber.

And then Magruber's son insists that he is not gay.

And to prove it, he's dating Vicki, played by Kristen Wigg.

And McGruber doubts this and asks his son to kiss his girlfriend.

What do I have to do to prove it to you?

Do you want me to kiss her?

Yeah, I do want to see you kiss her.

Fun.

Scott, you be Vicky for a second.

No, no, no, no.

Let's let Vicky be Vicki.

Do you remember what happens when Shia kisses Vicki?

No, I don't remember this at all.

He throws up?

He throws up.

They kiss and he throws up out of his mouth while they're kissing and then the explosion happens.

And it's so

it's also a really funny thing because I feel like the gay panic move in comedy for so long is that like a dude throws up when they kiss another dude.

Yeah.

And it was so great to turn the tables and be like a gay dude would throw up if he kisses

a lady.

Yeah.

And it's really great.

I got to go back and watch those.

I'm just like a listener right now.

Wait, you know what?

You know what?

I have a voice note from Yorm that we should play before you move on to too many things.

Okay.

Hey, Yorm again.

There's that movie quality song.

Something about best look in the world.

I have to assume that there was a break between the Daiquiri Girl show and this show, right?

Because

you guys

wouldn't go back to back with singing that was as sub-var as this.

I would assume.

Very curious about that.

It's kind of amazing, actually, to hear.

Here I go,

Andy's recent singing accomplishment with this version of Andy's singing, which is almost abusive to the audience.

Also, this one shocked me in watching it again because I feel like whenever Akiba would leave to do something, I felt like his judgment on what we would make was very high.

Oh, this is fair.

You then see, when I wasn't there, seeing what Akiba was somehow cool with producing.

Not the background girls are both

fair.

Like, wow.

It is so difficult to understand, too.

They're so deep, Andy.

I mean, Jimmy Capp,

who else in their right mind would write the lyrics?

Your Jimmy Cap is crowning like a newborn.

And be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Humans will understand that.

Oh, my God.

Anyway, I loved it.

It certainly made me miss you guys even in the past and miss our lives back then in a weird way.

Also, a little criticism.

A little criticism.

This has all been criticism.

Because I felt like I had done a couple things, like my pants, the video of my pants that we did,

total dick out, blurred dick where you can just see it.

I felt like this was a real pull-up here.

You can totally tell that the cool-down part was just mat on top of that.

And just you guys

really didn't have the balls to, so to speak, do the bad shot pantsless.

Anyway,

one criticism.

There was a bunch of criticisms of that.

All right.

This is too long.

Bye.

So, a couple things.

Yorm's criticism was that you guys didn't actually make the entire crew look at your exposed genitals

and get sued.

Or, to be fair, do a better job of what we were faking.

You could see the like dance belt underwear underneath the thing.

Modern SNL would have VFX help where they would just quickly clean up something and then put the blur over it to make it at least more confusing.

Keeve, I agree with what you're saying, but do you think that's what Jorm was saying?

It seemed like he was saying we didn't have the balls.

He was saying you didn't have the balls to do it.

He wanted you to go full Monty in front of everybody.

Yeah.

I feel like we broke new ground because that's the first time that Jorm has just, I feel like, fully been in the right in one of his comments.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like, Jorm took the high ground and you can't argue with it.

No.

And he has a fair hit on me that I was saying when he was calling me out on it, which is, it is true, when I'm not there, sometimes I would see their shorts and I would just see the things that in my opinion, they had done quote unquote wrong.

You know, just like, oh, I see what you're getting at there, but that's not the way we do it.

That's not the way I do it as us.

And you did it a different way.

And he's not wrong that at any moment when I had one of those criticisms, he should have just shown this video and been like, shut the fuck up.

Honestly, Keeve, speaking personally, there's only one of those that stands out in my mind that I actually remember you saying you had issues with it.

And I was like, but it felt like it did really good.

I would try to bite my tongue most of the time and just silently kind of on my own be like oh that's not how i would have done that but do you know which one i would say was the one that i felt was successful that you said you had a lot of issues with i'm gonna guess sergio yes well that's the only one that burned me because it was so good and it could have been in my opinion then i have no clue what i was even referring to so i don't have anything to specific we'll get there we'll get there it was because i was like oh this is an a plus thing being done in my opinion b plus and i saw all the places where it could have been the other ones where you know it's somewhere it's just whatever you guys are doing i'm like yeah yeah but that that one, I was like, oh, this could have been, I saw that it could have been just even better.

So that was why I cared more.

I'm excited to talk about that.

Yeah.

You know what?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say, if we're willing to, I feel like Hambone will join us for that pot.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

By the way, I saw him the other week too.

He was at that after party as well.

This is John Ham, and what a joy he is.

When we get to Sergio, that'll be fun to talk about.

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I just want to go back and say, let me tell you about a look I know is one of my favorite first lines.

That's nice.

I just think about it all the time.

Let me tell you about a look I know.

Because it's, you're stating the premise and also revealing you're incapable of executing it.

Yeah.

No one has ever said, let me tell you about a look.

There's another thing I hate, but I also want to say I hate it.

And when I watched it with Shoemaker, he laughed at it.

So tell me if you would change it today, Andy.

Okay.

I hate that it goes back to you in the locker room.

Oh, I hated it.

I'd rather it ended with you like up, and I hate you selling out than it's a bad look.

By the way, we just went through this on Sushi glory hole right keeve yeah we shot like five different versions of an ending where it comes back into the pitch meeting with maya keenan and bowen and we had a bunch of really funny stuff actually yes they were good ones though because this is ending like a laser cat to be fair we'd only done what three laser cats so it's okay yeah but we're more mature now and try not to repeat ourselves and aren't in the moment yeah now we're more mature that was best look in the world now we do sushi glory hole south thank you yes exactly we're mature now if we had done it back then it would have been just cheap sushi now it's a five-star omikaze so we've matured we're a distinguished gentleman now yes uh but yes but to the point being we were like it's over let's get out and that was the correct call yes it's not fun to have the last thing the audience sees be you agreeing it's bad yeah yeah also it just isn't worth it it's not worth it on sushi glory hole we just we're like oh let's just take the win and get out and on this would you say we should have just taken the loss and gotten out?

It applies both ways.

Just take the L.

You're like a team that was down like 28-0.

You're like, oh, an hour off to overtime.

And I was like, no.

I want to run through some things I enjoyed.

Monologue.

Shai was promoting Crystal Skull.

Oh, wow.

And Daryl came out as Sean Connery to complain about not being in this movie.

And he was also, there was a crazy setup line.

Mr.

Connery, I've already told you a million times I had nothing to do with your face being left off the last Crusade lunchbox.

Okay, I was four years old when that happened.

Well, you understand my chagrin.

It's just about the only box my face hasn't been on.

Sheesh.

Sheesh to the sheesh.

Wonderful.

That's fair.

It's fair to some of his interviews if you ever go back and watch some Sean Connery interviews.

Another great James Anderson sketch, which was a like match game show.

And what I really liked about it is it wasn't the old match game, but it was a lot of like those archetypes.

And Shia played like a Doug Henning magician.

And

Fred plays a Charles Nelson Riley archetype.

And it's a match game theme.

And they say, please welcome your host.

And then the host doesn't come out.

And you hear a scream.

And then Hayter comes out as basically a Colombo-type character to say that the host has been murdered.

All kidding aside, a man's been murdered here.

I'm afraid I can't let any of you go until you answer a couple of questions.

What were each of you doing at 2.30 this afternoon?

They all start writing their answers.

It's just an incredibly fun James Anderson sketch.

You know what else was in this Shia episode, Andy?

You were in it.

Yeah.

The first what?

Recurring sketch.

What?

The first Scared Straight.

Ah,

Keenan.

Scared Straight.

If I thought I could get Colin Joe's to make a voice note, Scared Straight is one of the most four-dimensional sketches that has ever been on SNL.

You are three kids, you, Hater, and Shia.

It was always you and Hater and the host.

Our three kids who got in trouble.

Sudakis is a police officer.

They have brought in a guy who's in prison.

It's part of the Scare Straight program, which is an actual thing where they have felons come in and talk about how bad prison is.

That's the premise.

That's a very straight premise.

On top of that, Keenan keeps saying this here is real,

but he keeps explaining plots of old movies.

Stealing cars.

No, they didn't actually steal a car.

Let me tell you something.

I've been there i stole a car i stole two cars

pretty soon i had to steal 50 cars in one night otherwise the russians were gonna shoot my brother dead in the street

is that what you want a dead brother because this here is real

isn't that the plot of gone in 60 seconds

now that's already a crazy jump then he'll charge over get in your face try to make you guys break right really close like really like manhandling you guys.

Successful almost every time in getting someone, yeah.

Yeah.

Then he will basically say, a long, when you do this, they do that.

When you do that, you do this.

And it always ends in the most offensive, what could happen to you in prison.

Yeah.

And then Sudakis has to tell him to chill because he's crying.

Whoa, whoa, hey, hey, Macintosh.

Lorenzo Macintosh.

Go back and watch him.

And we're going to talk about him more because a bunch of them happen.

It is really a testament to Keenan the performer and Joe's the writer because it is a fucking fever dream.

It is.

And as it went longer and longer, it also turned into there was a subplot of every single one of them.

I've talked about this before, which is Sudakis trying to get us all to break.

Yeah, Sudaikis would, and it was funny to watch this one back because he wasn't trying yet.

No, he was just doing the right thing for a first-time sketch of just playing his part and making it work.

But as it wore on, there was another character in the sketch by the end.

Yes.

It was the way he would jump on the desk at the end of the sketch.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

And also just way too loose.

Way too loose.

Yes.

I remember how wide his legs would always be when he'd sit on the desk.

When he always liked his knees as far apart from each other as he could.

By the end of it, he would hop back onto the desk from like three feet and really thump it.

Nuts.

I remember when Sadegas left the show, there was a dinner and they had cut together a...

highlight reel of Sadegas at the dinner that we showed.

And it was like the tag of that video was the seven times he jumped on on the desk and how fucking funny it was.

Oh, I would like to see that.

Uh, the other thing, I'll get to it, but I'm going to say it now because I think it's worth saying.

The hottest dress I was ever at was the Betty White show.

And at some point, there was so much that was definitely in the show that Lauren left and went back up to his office early because he knew he had the show.

And the last two sketches, it didn't matter how well they went, he had his show.

Then I went to his office.

And

in that scared straight, Betty White was a felon with

Keenan.

And I remember it was one of those things.

It was like a scene from a movie where I said to Lauren,

Lauren, I think you might want to watch this.

Because while he was picking the show, I was just watching the monitor and it was, the audience was screaming.

Yeah, it destroyed.

It destroyed at a level I've never seen.

So Scared Straight, and again, Colin Joseph is one of our closest friends.

I love him so much.

I can't get a fucking voice note from him to save my life, but I would love to get his bounce on how they came up with Scared Straight.

If you get one about Scared Straight for him, then it can just play at the next Scare Straight.

It's true.

That's a good call.

There was a really fun Vinnie Vedecci in this guy.

Oh, Seth's Corner.

I worked on this.

Seth's Corner, you're all invited.

Seth's Corner, it's happening right now.

Take it waste it.

You know, the Vinnie Vedecci thing was he only knew a few things about American culture.

And so Shai was promoting Crystal Skull.

And at one point, Vinny, in a lot of joy, said, what does Indiana Jones hate?

And finally got Shai to say snakes.

And Vinny said, Indiana Jones hates snakes.

Indiana Jones hates snakes.

And it was clearly a cue.

Ah, yes, yes, yes.

And then he moved on to the next thing.

And it's one of those executions that makes me so happy to this day.

He moved on to the next question, and then like a thousand rubber snakes dropped.

That's so fucking funny.

And then, also, in this episode, these are the cameos of people who were working on Vinnie Vedecci.

Alex Bays, Doug Abels, weekend update writers at the time.

Alex Bays, currently head writer on Late Night with Seth Meyers.

John Solomon, and then it cut to Lorne Michaels, dressed like the Don who dies in Godfather 2, like all white.

Yeah.

White hat.

And Lorne does the best.

And I can't.

It was another reminder of how much fun we were having and how much Lauren was having fun during this era.

Yeah.

And Golden.

And Golden.

We got Lauren to do a Videcci.

Really fun.

Now, was Mulaney hired yet?

I don't think we have Mulaney on the show yet.

I feel like we would have seen his name in the rundown.

I think we're coming close to.

It's going to be soon.

Wait, hold on.

Yeah, no, we're not at the end of this.

He begins the beginning of next season.

Got it.

I was going to say, we're not quite to the end of the strike season yet.

Yeah.

Fall next season.

Okay, cool.

I'm asking because, and we'll talk about it when we get to the point where he was hired, a lot of Bill's stuff really blossomed and flourished, I think, once Mulaney was hired because they found each other.

Oh, 100%.

But that Vinnie Vedecci sounds like it was a classic, really good one that totally worked.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I think that...

Bill was rounding into shape.

It was like a perfect convergence of how good Bill was getting and how Mulaney and Bill were a perfect match.

Yeah.

Would you say, Seth, I have this memory of like, say, the Vincent Price ones really taking off once Mulaney got there.

Yeah.

I mean, Bill has said in interviews that one time we were writing it, because I was working on this with Bill, and

there was a line for Liberace that Mulaney pitched, which was like, go back to your windowless bars.

It was just like, oh, it's really good.

The specificity is going to be higher.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So here's the thing.

It's not criterion, but it is on Seth's list.

I would want best luck in the world.

Wow.

Why?

I just,

I just love everything about it.

Wait, what?

It stinks, but Andy, you make me so happy.

This is like a Shyamalanian twist.

I thought we were talking about a dud this whole time.

It stinks and it makes me so happy.

And I'm just like, I want to be around people who take a swing like that.

And it's like what Klein said.

Like, it didn't work.

It wasn't lazy.

No, certainly not.

You put too much in a too small a bag and the bag burst.

And we all had to fucking clean it up.

But it's there.

And I'm telling you, do a fucking Taylor's version of this song.

This is a ropa dope, man.

I love it.

I love best look in the world.

You know why?

Because I also feel like, you know, when I don't know, there's scholars, you're like, what do you study?

And they're like, just Finnegan's wake.

You know, like, they're just like a one text professor.

Yeah.

I still feel like there are things within Best Look in the world that I have not uncovered.

It's dense.

It's a density of it.

It's not too late for flank stake thighs to catch on.

Flank stake thighs.

Liv response, flank stake thighs.

It's audacious.

It's audacious.

Audacious?

Audacious.

You know what?

It's a little bit like, I feel like, let me tell you about a look I know is if Babe Ruth had called his shot and then just struck out on three pitches.

I think you were saying it's hopeful.

There's a hopefulness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know, man.

It's like they say in Little League when you whiff hard, but you really go for it.

Good cut.

Oh, one more other thing.

I feel like a wig thing that at the time was a big hip and kind of lost to history because nobody talks about Suze Orman anymore.

Oh, yeah, Susie.

Yeah.

Wig had a really funny thing, and it was, again, it was Paula Pel.

And it was just talking about how to save money because that was Susie Orman, was like just saving money.

Don't waste your money on expensive self-tanners.

Do what I do.

Sit in a bathtub with 12-beat bullion cubes overnight.

Number two, you need a hot stone massage?

Don't go to the parlor, slather on some I can't believe it's not butter, and roll around on a gravel driveway.

Wig did a ton of those with Paula, didn't she?

A ton of those.

Yeah, but I feel like, again, it almost speaks to how many good things Wig has that nobody thinks about or Susie Ormond.

But it was a fucking rock star bit.

By the way, I mean, it probably goes without saying, and it's not like we don't talk about how incredible Wig was during all this, but we could do a whole podcast just about Wig.

Yes.

Every week.

Every week.

Every week.

She was on fire.

She had like endless characters, it seemed like, and was crushing impressions.

I think we could also say, and maybe our listeners don't know this, the level of integrity Wig had for quality.

And so if she did something a second time, it always had to have like a new move in it.

I would like to play now because I feel like it'll be less fun if I say it.

But I think about it all the time.

The way Wig Susie Orman said you could save money instead of buying maxi pads.

And finally, instead of buying fancy maxi pads, you can make your own.

Go to the dollar store, buy a 24-pack of baby socks, and some double-sided taps.

It's tough to not immediately say, we think Paula wrote that.

Oh, Paula and Wig.

One of the many great combos of the era.

All right, look at us.

Best look in the world.

Done and dusted.

Yeah.

It's a relief to have it behind us.

All right, dudes.

Well, I love you both very much.

I love Yorma too.

Yeah, we love Yorma too, and we also love you.

Thanks.

Yeah, we've covered it all.

Look at us.

All right.

I love you guys.

Love you.

Love you, buddy.

Bye.

Bye.