Business Meeting, Nurse Nancy, and Andy Popping Into Frame

All right, let's get into it, guys.

I gotta go.

Why?

What do you have to go for?

What's

an important sketch?

You have to go to watch.

Why comedy?

You have to go.

A comedy sketch show, Andy.

Oof.

You have to go to watch a comedy sketch show?

It's a long story.

Let's talk about it later.

It doesn't matter.

No, but I will say, and again, I hope it's a great comedy sketch show, and I'm sure it will be, but that is my nightmare.

I've reached the age where that is fully my nightmare.

Do you guys ever look back at the things you tried to get important people to come to and feel so bad?

Yeah.

About wanting people to come and see you do your silly sketches.

Every person in my life that I care about, I've begged and essentially forced to come to multiple bringer shows when I was doing stand-up, and it cost them so much money.

Yeah,

and they were brutal, yeah.

All right, let's get into it.

Seth, hit it.

This is, it's already started, Yorma.

I think there's a real problem, Yorma, how often you tell me to start when in my head I've started.

Hey guys, we're going to do a new thing this episode.

We're going to do four digital shorts because let's be honest.

Here it comes.

They didn't resonate.

They lacked a sort of cultural stickiness that a lot of shorts have.

Fair?

I think that's a really nice way to put that they all stuck.

That's the nicest way of saying it.

I don't think body fusion should be lumped in to that as much.

I agree.

I think body fusion is great, but also no credit to Andy, no credit to your arm.

You did a great job shooting it, Keith, but it is sort of.

It's polars.

We'll get there.

We'll get there.

Yeah.

Our work being called Lacking Cultural Stickiness, that would be so nice as a review for some of this stuff.

Yeah.

I will, I will say, I had a different way of saying it.

And then you said, here we go during the tee up.

And I realized I had to sort of, I don't know, do sort of like a Scooby-Doo backtrack.

Oh, yeah.

Because you thought the burn was coming.

Do the mean version now.

These stunk.

They all suck.

You piece of shit.

We stand by this.

This is our heart's work.

They didn't stink.

But first of all, because here's the really cool thing.

I would have said, you know, one of the things about this era of SNL, which you guys know how I stand, where I stand, and golden era.

Right.

And

I always thought, you know, it was very hard for the show

to be great without a really strong digital short.

And here's the thing.

These four shows, looking back on it, are great shows.

Despite,

yeah, despite you, which I think think is healthy that there were many times that you guys lifted up the show, and then the reality was the show could also be fine without you guys.

But strong, I want to start with Jeremy Piven.

Strong disagree is what I'm reading on Yorma's face right now.

I feel like I was involved in making some of these shows better.

I mean, the MacGrubers in here, the first McGrubers in here, I feel like that was good.

Oh my God, we'll get to it.

This is literally like somebody trying to make an opening statement in court when the prosecution is making theirs.

Guys, fair

first episode.

We're going going to talk about January 20th, 2007.

Jeremy Piven hot off and in the middle of Entourage, a very fitting choice for a show that had a great cultural footprint, unlike the next four digital shorts we're going to talk about.

Listen, just keep leaving Body Fusion out of that.

I'm not leaving Body Fusion out of that.

I'm doing the first Piven, the Digital Short is movie trailer.

Was that made for that show?

No, and I believe, now, again, we are doing these so far apart, we have no memory.

If we repeat ourselves every episode, it can't be happening.

We apologize.

But I believe it cut for dress in one of our previous podcast episodes.

And I think we've even brought it up on one of the other episodes because we saw it in Cut for Dress.

This is only a minute 10.

Can I just watch it real quick to remind myself?

Yes.

And we're going to watch your face and we're going to narrate your face as you watch it.

Yeah, you just go ahead and take off your headphones so you can't hear us.

This February, the doctor

is

smiling.

He's smiling.

He likes it.

Nurse Nancy.

Starving

Garbasiak.

Now I really feel like he and I are going to go to war over whether or not it's good.

I think he's embarrassing.

Part of it's knowing how you're feeling, Seth.

I think he's kind of coaxing the bigger chuggles.

Oh, some head shaking.

Disappointed head shaking.

Oh, that speaks for itself.

I do like Garbasiac.

Garbasiac's a good name.

A rare Yorbio, too.

Scott Garbasiak.

I now pronounce you man

and life.

Come on, guys.

I was hoping.

That was a nod to listen.

And her love of American nurse Nancy.

Coming this February.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Okay.

It's short.

It was short.

Very short.

I'm caught up.

How do we clear those songs first off?

I think you had Bust the Move and Who Let the Dogs Out and Boom, I Got Your Boyfriend, all in.

Yeah, we didn't care about reruns.

We knew what we had, and we knew that we didn't want it to ever repeat.

Ah, so you would just throw the music out there?

I mean, should we kick it off, Seth?

Should we talk about how we feel?

Yeah, kick it.

Kick it off.

I mean, I respect how hateful it is.

Yeah.

I also feel, do you guys feel this way?

I now think about Nutty Professor as a masterpiece.

Yes.

Never seen it.

Is that true?

Yeah.

Okay.

I genuinely think Eddie Murphy should have won an Oscar for the first Nutty Professor movie.

I remember being in the theater doubled over for like eight minutes of that movie, just being like, oh my God, this is so funny.

Yes.

And it's kind of exactly what we were making fun of in that short.

The dinner table scene in the first Nutty Professor movie, I have maybe watched on YouTube as much as I've watched the bar scene from Inglorious Bastards.

Like, I think it's just a perfect piece of cinema.

The craziest thing about that is that the bar scene in In Glorious Bastards is also all Eddie Murphy.

But almost too good, right?

The makeup was too good.

It's too good.

So one of the things is I look at it now as, oh, this was sort of a time where that was maybe viewed as.

But this is based on Norbit and the Clumps, I'm assuming.

Sure.

Nutty Professors 1996.

What year are we now?

2006?

07.

Yeah, 07.

So a lot has happened probably since then.

A lot has happened.

And probably not just Eddie Murphy film.

But I will say this, Seth, for how you can judge things occasionally.

And I occasionally, I don't know where you're going to shake out on that.

Having you say that you thought he deserved it, like makes me really happy because I really do remember being in the theater, just dying.

So it makes me really happy that you liked it.

Thank you for saying that.

I never saw it, as mentioned.

Let's watch it right now.

I just was like, I'm an actor.

Here's an assignment.

I didn't even know what the context was.

You had no idea.

You're like, why should I do this?

Yeah, that's what it reads in the thing.

You're not owning it at all.

What a wonderful opportunity to play many roles.

But the meanness and it is interesting that you note, and that is what makes us like it, but it didn't come from us because we didn't write this.

None of us did.

These are some of the rare ones that did not come from us.

That's right.

Which character did you like playing the most, Andy, out of all of them?

I mean, they're like my children.

I can't choose.

Gotcha.

You can't choose.

I truly didn't remember what was going to happen in this one, which is also rare.

Usually they start playing.

I go, oh, yeah.

But this one was just a total of it.

I've forgotten all of it.

I forgot that the name was Scott Garbasiak, which also just makes me giggle immediately.

Garbasiak's good.

I forgot Yorm stole that VO money from Higgins like a motherfucking champ.

Finally.

Yeah, I really did.

I forgot my 400.

So again, not the most memorable, but you guys, weirdly, also the birth of a new sort of Ursat's digital short, which is Magruber.

Yes.

Now, you wrote and directed Magrubers.

You wrote him with Solomon and Forte.

Yeah.

One of my all-time favorite things that ever happened in SNL was McGruber.

And do you remember the impetus behind the first one?

The story I tell, which I think is accurate, was that it was a pitch for the Lance Armstrong show.

And it was for Lance to play MacGyver's stepbrother, Magruber, which already doesn't make any sense.

And instead of diffusing bombs, he obviously doesn't use guns or anything.

He just uses like little found objects, things like pieces of shit and pubic hair.

So none of his assistants want to touch any of the items when he desperately needs them.

Jojo, grab that twine.

I'm on it.

Casey, gum wrapper.

Right here.

Jojo, that dog turd.

What?

The dog turd, right by your foot.

I'm not picking up that dog turd.

Ten seconds.

You heard her, Jojo.

Give me the dog turd.

No, why do we need a dog turd?

That's my business.

Now pick up the dog turd.

Just give him the dog turd.

You give him the dog turd.

Yeah, Casey, give me the dog turd.

No, I can't.

I'm keeping count.

Three seconds.

Fine, I'll get the dog turd.

I just hope I have enough time to...

Do you ever think oh my god if lance had played instead of forte it would have been so much worse and yet it would have done exactly the same at the box office

that is there's the burnage we were looking for that's what i was talking about with the judgment earlier i don't know what i'm gonna get maybe you maybe even a little better there might have been like a live strong tie-in and people would have been showing up to have agreement slam slam might have made more money

uh no i think it's actually indicative of how little i thought of the original pitch was that I was just like, yeah, just like, get through this.

Because I hated pitch.

Pitch was always like terrifying to me.

You're in a big room.

All of your friends, everyone from the show, all writers and cast are there, and you're a famous host, and you have to like open your mouth and try to entertain people.

And Lorne.

And Lorne.

I mean, let's remember the arbiter of taste, Lorne.

Exactly.

You know who wasn't terrified of the pitch?

Who?

Pele.

Oh.

Pele, the Brazilian soccer player.

He dominated the pitch.

You kind of went overseas with that one.

Well, he dominated the pitch.

He dominated the pitch.

He wasn't afraid of it.

He couldn't wait to get out there every day.

He was cool

as the proverbial cucumber.

I think the angriest I am at the long walk you just took us on is the way you said Pele.

Yeah, I knew it would be.

I wasn't sure.

Was Pele known to be cool as a cucumber?

I just didn't know.

It was like under pressure.

I don't think the proof is in the pitch.

Bicycle kicks, much.

When you watch old Pele highlights the whole time, you just hear him going, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck.

Oh, I don't know what I'm doing.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I will tell you who genuinely was not afraid of the pitch was Will Farrell.

And again, I only saw his last year of pitching, so he might have been nervous about pitching early on in his time of the show.

I got less nervous about it the longer I was there too, because I learned the valuable lesson: the pitch doesn't matter, and you could just try to make people laugh.

That was more important than actually trying to pitch a sketch.

But I think I told you guys, Farrell's last pitch, he just brought in an old-timey typewriter and he always went last.

And as Lauren was going around the room, Will was typing like he was writing down all the pitches.

And it was the loudest typewriter.

And so people would say, I have an idea where, and it's like,

really slow, really loud.

And then even Lauren was smiling because I think Lauren at that point had so much confidence in Will knowing that this wasn't a road to nowhere.

And so it got all the way around the room.

And then Lauren, as he always did, said, and Will.

And Will just like turned the sides to bring the paper up.

And he went,

he looked at it for a really long time and he said, no, I think we're good.

No fear of the pitch.

Okay, well, for those of us that were terrified of it, McGrubber got a really bad reaction.

My second pitch that day, I remember because that one got a groan.

And then the second one was a spoof commercial for a new kind of chunky mayonnaise that also got like basically booed.

And then I believe it was like another month of me trying to re-pitch it to Forte and be like, what if we did this, though?

What if you played McGrubber and did that?

And then the first one that we did for the Piven show

is basically that joke.

And then the only thing that I really remember that nobody clocked, but I found funny, was that his assistants, the reason that Maya Rudolph was named Casey is because the Piven's character was named Jojo.

And so it was a nod to the band Casey and JoJo.

To the R ⁇ B group.

The R ⁇ B joke.

It makes a lot of sense, actually.

Yeah, Casey, JoJo.

It was wonderful.

By the way, I want Forte to give his version of what he thinks, how Macrubra came about, about, because that's probably different than mine.

Okay.

My recollection of how Magruber came about, John Solomon and I were supposed to write with Yorma on a Tuesday night, and Yorma came in and pitched this idea about this character called Magruber, who was MacGyver's younger brother, who was just pretty shitty at doing the same thing that MacGyver does.

And we thought it sounded pretty dumb.

So we just said, no, let's think of something else.

And then a week later, we got together to write again.

And Yorma pitched it again, equally as excited about it.

And John and I were equally as unenthusiastic about it.

And then he pitched it the next week.

And then I think it was the fourth week, he frigging pitched this thing again.

And we're like, okay, let's just do it just to get him to shut up and move off it.

And then as we started thinking about it and thought about it as more of a short film in three segments, as as opposed to one segment that was a sketch, then it all fell into place.

But yeah, in the very beginning, we did not have high hopes.

I love you guys.

I just want to say something about this episode.

So we got Nurse Nancy, which is not, you know, going to make the criterion collection of the digital shorts, but we have the first McGruber, huge.

We got A-Holes, huge.

We got, I think, our second Blizzard Man with Common.

Yes.

Amazing.

And then also, I just want to dip, I'm going to dip in.

And I know we're going to do this a fair amount, but I really want to take a toe and place it into Seth's corner.

Oh,

Seth's corner, you're all invited.

Seth's corner, it's happening right now.

Take it wasted.

Weekend Update, the first really was in this weekend update.

Which is huge, genuinely a huge moment for my time at Weekend Update.

And really, never would have come up with it on my own with a gift from Andy Sandberg.

Whoa, that is true.

He even gave it to me at a more important time than a week where we had a show.

He gave it to me when I auditioned for weekend update.

And I was working on my audition for weekend update.

And Andy came to my office, said, you should do a bit called Really.

And I said, why?

And he said, that's how you talk all the time.

I said, I said, my favorite version of you is when you show up to the office mad about something that's happening in the world or in your life and you get so worked up that you go, really?

That's what we're doing?

That's the way it's.

And you, and you always like when you bring that venom and it comes from your soul and you combine it with your comedy mind, it always would make me laugh the hardest you could make me laugh.

I didn't remember it was before your audition, though.

I thought it was after you already got update.

No, no, no.

It was because I wrote a really for my audition.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

And then it says what you trotted it out for.

Do you remember what it was?

It was for Michael Vick.

Michael Vick got arrested for trying to bring weed onto a plane.

Michael Vick's alleged attempt to bring marijuana onto a plane raises many questions.

Questions we will now address in a new segment on Weekend Update called Really with Stephanie.

Michael Vick, really?

You didn't want to throw your weed away before you went through security.

Really?

You have $117 million left on your contract.

Do you know what $117 million means?

You can afford to replace your weed if you have to throw it away at the airport.

Really?

I mean, come on, Michael.

Even my dumbest high school friends know to throw their weed away at the airport, and they have no money and love weed.

And you got caught at the Miami airport.

Really?

You didn't think they'd check for drugs at the airport in Miami?

Really?

And Seth, in return for me helping you create that, you cut two things of mine from update.

Looking at the rundown.

Starting off a long trend of you gatekeeping me from glory in your sacred space.

Only pre-tapes, Andy, he'd say as he patted me condescendingly on the head.

Only pre-tapes for you, lad.

You're better with an edit pass, my child.

Wait, what got cut so we can judge whether they should have been cut?

It's just one here.

Well, I apparently helped Solomon and Forte write a Jim Caviesel piece for Will Forte.

As well as a piece called Mustache, starring me, written by me, Solomon, Joast, Doug Ables, Charlie Grandi, and Bays, apparently.

Wow.

Too many people.

A full update team.

Yeah, I know.

Do you remember what it was?

I have no idea what it was.

Mustache is you came out to give your review of the Oscars,

maybe the Golden Globes.

It was an award show.

You came out with a mustache

and pretty much only had nice things to say about actors who had mustaches.

It was a lot of me noting that this was the first mustache that I had.

I'd seen you with.

Yeah.

I mean, it sounds like a good premise that was also incredibly topical a word show just had aired yeah that part was good but i guess not good enough i wrote a scene called unicorn you guys remember unicorn i had to look it back up again it is basically the town that's voting on whether they should tear down unicorn forest to build a mall and everybody wants to and it's been clear that they all have uncountable wealth because of the magic unicorn but they also really want a mall everybody's voting to tear down the unicorn and then polar is a elf named periwinkle who keeps claiming you're being rash and I can't say why I know but I feel like if you kill that unicorn you're all gonna die

Perhaps the unicorn is here because the forest is the last magical place on earth and it's warning us not to destroy it.

Thank you, Periwinkle.

I think we all know how you feel about the unicorn, but it looks like you're outvoted on this one.

You know, it's a trifle, but you guys, I was very happy when I remembered how much fun Polar was playing a little elf.

Oh, shoot, there's something else.

Wait, there's something else that happened for the first time in this show.

I can't believe we almost missed it.

One of my favorites because I got a great story about it.

That'll move the chains.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

One of my favorites.

By the way, it was high in the show.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's the primo spot after first commercial.

It's the first sketch.

Yeah, it was super high.

It's NFL commentators.

Sandberg, Joast Murray, Primo spot.

You were a kid who had won a contest to go into the booth.

Yes, yes, yes.

To be a live broadcast at an NFL game?

And you said that'll move the chains no matter what had just happened.

That's right.

Lead along the sideline to Reggie Wayne.

First down, Colts.

That'll move the chains.

It certainly will, Danny.

Wow, it looks like someone's been brushing up on his football terminology.

Nice job, Danny.

I'm trying.

Now it's Manning on the quick snap.

Hands to Adea,

and he picks up about four yards.

That'll move the chains.

Well, not this time, Danny.

The chains actually only move on a first down.

Great effort, though, Danny.

Yeah.

Manny back under center.

Drops back.

He's got Harrison deep.

That'll move the chains.

And the passball's incomplete.

And the chains move.

And it worked pretty well.

It did.

It played nice.

I feel like people still, like, once every five years will say that to me.

Yeah.

I mean, I can't hear that'll move the chains without thinking about it.

So I feel like that's a win on your.

But my favorite story about it, which I often tell,

and we'll get to it, because I think it aired two months later, maybe even less, you came into my office and I said, what are you working on this week?

And you said, we're thinking about doing another That'll Move the Chains.

And I said, another?

Because

it did not strike me as a recurring character.

It struck me as a premise piece.

And so I said, another.

And do you remember what you said to me?

No.

You said,

we don't all have fucking update every week.

Which was, it was like 80% do it a bit, but I could tell 20% you were a little mad.

The guy who got to just get 10 minutes a week was being all judgy about you trying to rebuild.

That'll move the chains.

Didn't we do a second one, though?

Yes, it was basketball, and I think it was from downtown, maybe.

Or nothing but the bottom of the net, maybe?

That might be it.

It was a very novel re-imagining.

I feel like you got that'll move the chains back in there, too.

Probably so that'll move the chains.

I wonder if we got in Yorm, you know how much I wanted to say this on something.

Thunder Dan is Enfuego from downtown.

Yeah, that was like your main thing.

Yeah, with a lisp, though.

Thunder Dan is.

Thunder Dan!

En Fuego.

Shunder Dan Marley.

He can't miss.

Man, it always got me.

Still does.

All right, moving on.

Next show.

Drew Barrymore.

February 3rd, 2007.

Digital short.

This one came from Amy Poehler.

and it's listed as a workout video, but what would you think of it as if you gave it a title, Akiva?

Body Fusion.

Yeah, Body Fusion.

Body Fusion.

I think it was just confusing or came in late, and so we just called it a workout video.

Let's tone our arms.

You can use weights or any household item.

For a more advanced workout, use one-pound hand weights

or petals

or air.

Body fusion is wonderful.

It is an an 80s style workout video.

And Akiva, this is one of the first times I heard you describing the process of making something where I was hella, to use the West Coast term, impressed.

Thanks for that.

It has a grainy VHS quality.

And I remember you saying, did you shoot it and then transfer it to VHS and then sort of crumple the tape?

Yeah, it was experimental.

And I was really proud of having thought of it.

There were some old VHS decks still at SNL that weren't really plugged in.

And we went and dug them out.

And then we shot it on the normal kind of studio cameras, but at a good frame rate that looks like old stuff.

And then we copied it onto VHS tapes and we copied it onto them at different speeds.

You remember when you used to do VHS and there'd be the two-hour version that was like, you know, pretty high quality and then the EP and then the LP, like for four hours or six hours?

And we took three different tapes and just recorded it at three different speeds.

So it went from, you know, good to bad to worse.

And then there was one where I did it and then touched the the tape and tell all the stuff you're not.

And it was like tracking all over the place.

And then we digitized them all back in and put them on top.

And then shot to shot, I just chose how messed up to make it on every shot.

And it worked so well.

Cause back then people would just still do like a effect, a VHS effect, and you could always tell it was fake.

And I got called by people asking how I did it, what plugin I used.

I remember also being impressed when you suggested doing it.

And that SNL had machines.

Yeah.

It's obvious when you think about it, but I was going to say, I thought it was obvious.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Anytime there is that plug-in or that effect, if you watch it long enough, you can tell it's an effect.

And the great thing about this was because you had done it manually, there was a unpredictability to it that made it so authentic and great.

And I remember it was one of those that was beloved without necessarily having a ton of laughs in it.

You just felt everybody watching it was enjoying it so much.

Just having re-watched, actually, there was more laughs than I was expecting because what you just said was my memory of it as well that people just were being charmed by their performances and their little looks they're giving each other and stuff but then i was surprised to actually hear some actual laughs in there as well i think it's a very special in body fusion i do put it in the criterion collection for its uniqueness yeah exactly because it's so different from everything else and it was such a fun idea there's a reason it made it into the 100th digital short the roundup recap of all things we were proud of yes it did yeah oh right did you see the body fusion ladies for a second body fusion lady body fusion not just because of the style of it, but because Poehler had a good idea.

And now when you watch it, you're like, oh, yeah, I've seen a hundred things like this.

But at that moment, it felt like, in my opinion, like a new thought to have on her part.

And then Keeves' delivery of it.

Yeah.

The concept of that the exercise videos have the lady doing the hard version, the medium version, and the easy version.

I didn't even know that existed in exercise videos.

Yes.

And she had to explain to me what it was.

And now, as someone who's lived 20 more years, I've seen those videos.

Pretty accurate.

Also, a show that had some historical significance.

I'm pretty sure the first Dakota fanning show, which was a fun little impression for Polar over the years to do and gave a host fun things to do.

There was a great Donatella.

There was

Target Lady.

It was a good show.

Jill, good show, though.

Oh, there's a really fun Smoked Sausages where I'm pretty sure it's Drew Barrymore as her character from Firestarter cooking sausages on the grill.

All grown up.

All grown up.

Why not?

A very deep cut because, again, by 2007, I believe Firestarter is probably 20 plus years old.

Sounds like we would have written it.

Yeah, no, that wasn't all right.

Yeah.

That's our territory.

Hi, I'm Charlie McGee, but you probably know me better as Firestarter.

That was a long time ago, and now I've got something that I'm really excited about.

Firestarter brand smoked sausages.

fire starter brand smokes

cooked in fires she starts with a mine

then we have forrest whitaker you guys the forrest whitaker show the digital short is andy popping in frame here we go let's talk about it talk me through it can we first just talk about how wonderful forrest whitaker was sure let's distract from the fact that we made andy popping the frame that was my intention why are you doing that to your compadre i was just so i was so disappointed.

I was so disappointed watching it.

Let's remember that we're editing Ha-Rod.

This is crunch time editing Harad.

Sure.

We're talking February 2007.

We have a summer release date.

Sure.

I begged Lauren every week to just let me not come in and let me just keep editing.

And the one week he let me do it was the Jeremy Pippin show of the whole season.

And I remember it so clearly because I wasn't there that whole week.

That was Nurse Nancy?

Yes.

And that's why they dug out Nurse Nancy from back in November from the ludicrous show.

It's already been made.

Yeah.

And I was doing MacGrouber, so I was distracted.

Maybe we had a test screening or something coming up, and he was like, okay, fine.

You can miss this week.

And I did not come in at all for that one.

When you guys did Blizzard Man with Common, I just like read the script on the couch at the editing room.

And that was it.

That was the only one that he let you off for.

Only one.

Yes.

In my memory, yes.

But it was a big deal.

When he said it, it was like a snow day for a kid.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Like, it was like, oh my God, I just got the whole week.

I get to work on the movie.

I can work.

That you're also producing.

I can't believe how much you remember sometimes, Keev.

It's all a big schmooey blob to me.

It's just specific.

I didn't remember the Nurse Nancy stuff until right now.

But the pivot one, I remember not being there because it was weird to not be there for a week.

Seth, do you remember every guest that's been on your show like vividly?

No.

Okay.

Weird.

Well, you admit it.

Yeah, I do admit it.

Okay, but Akiva, for Andy popping into frame, you said earlier that you thought that this was groundbreaking at the time.

I'm paraphrasing what you said.

Well, to be willing to be this naked on screen, I mean, this unprotected by the written word or jokes.

That it wasn't was punk rock.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was, let me go into something that I forget to do.

The comments.

This is comment number one on the YouTube channel from three years ago.

Is it Andy's cute?

Because that's what I got out of it.

They let this man do whatever he wanted.

And I love it.

That is the punk rock thing is that it was like, hey, we're going to do whatever we want, I guess.

Yeah.

I mean, I think even as we were making that one, we knew it wasn't that great.

You're like, is this enough?

It was experimental.

It was going to be all style and it was going to be more like kind of the interstitial stuff we had shot for Awesome Town.

And I believe one of us, possibly even me, said out loud while we were cutting it, people who don't like me are going to really hate this.

Well, I think, to be fair, I think that's also because you do look kind of cute.

Oh, Yorm.

You do look cute.

You're pretty cute on screen.

Like, I'm like, oh, look at that adorable guy.

And if I didn't like you, I'd be like, fuck this guy.

I agree.

Yorm, I'm going to tell you, one of my biggest takeaways from watching this was damn andy was handsome i was endeared to him at the time or else i would hated him too y'all are nice it's also like the show is so polished that sometimes we would go what if we do something that is premiseless yeah that is very unpolished and like play with expectations it's almost good you feel it working because it does the thing it says fast pop fast pop fast pop fast pop so that your brain goes okay he's gonna pop in and then it goes to a wide and you're searching the screen and you're searching and you know it is doing something right because it is telling a cadence of playing with expectations and then he pops in somewhere and you're like okay it's teaching me a game visually the same way and i remember us talking about it that we were basically making something that would be on sesame street when we were doing it that's what it feels like and when forte comes in i'm like okay and they're they're heightening and that really works and then i'm like okay if they've got another forte up their sleeve i'm gonna be with this because it's like doing every variation on a theme it's like in the film amadeus remember when uh the guy that's not as good, Sal Sarieri or whatever, comes in and he's been working on something for years.

And Mozart's like, oh, that's a really cool melody.

And he's like, or you could do it like this, or you could do it like this.

And he does like 10 variations on the theme immediately in a way that would take this other guy, obviously, a year to figure out.

Just watched it.

Total accurate description of the scene.

This is exactly what we were doing.

Only we only thought of like three variations.

Yeah.

And so it was like a third of a Mozart, maybe.

You're right.

You're right.

If it had heightened after that, I think I would have liked it a lot more.

And this was, was this the beginning beginning of us doing like a stupid beat that I had made kind of thing?

Because we ended up doing this kind of thing a bunch of times.

Yes, we ended up doing two more.

We did Punch Before Eating and we did Extreme Competition.

Which I like both of those better, but there's a lot more to laugh at in those.

Well, yeah.

I mean, the first Magruber wasn't as good as the later ones either, right?

That's true.

Yeah.

I've been notified, Seth, that there was an out-of-breath jogger cut from this episode.

From 1933.

You want me to hit you with a little taste?

Because it never aired.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, before you read it, Andy, let me just say, I'm devastated at our choice.

And I'm sure when I hear it now, I will realize that this would have changed the trajectory of the show.

Now, a moment with the out-of-breath jogger from 1933.

It would be me in a 30s full-piece swimsuit.

Sure.

That's what joggers would wear, a swimsuit.

Yeah.

Whew, this depression's the worst, huh?

Ah, you see that movie, King Kong, the first one?

Supposed to be awesome.

This Adolf Hitler character seems to be stirring up a lot of trouble.

I'm sure it'll pass.

Oh,

tell you who my favorite baseball team is right now.

The 1933 New York Yankees.

Oh, I'm having trouble breathing.

You know what, rules?

Having 48 states.

It's the best.

Al Capone.

That was the end.

Al Capone.

The idea that they would cut something that's like a minute long is a little unfair.

I don't even know which one of those is supposed to get a laugh.

Because again, the out-of-breath jogger from the 80s, like 80s jogger already is funny.

Also, 80s references are ones that are a little bit more fun to hear, certainly in the mid-2000s.

And now you go back to 19, it's really funny that you tried.

Okay, but the speed at which jokes would be coming at you and the look of it, it would be black and white.

It would be old-timey footage.

But why cut something that is just a little fun pop like that?

You know what I mean?

Probably because it died and we had better stuff is my guess.

Yeah.

Heath Urban went over.

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I have a memory of something else that got cut in the Forrest Whitaker show that I wrote called Meet the Boss.

Do you guys remember Meet the Boss?

Oh, I remember this.

I loved this sketch.

I was so sad when the King of Scotland sketched.

Yes.

Forrest Whitaker was hosting on the back of Last King of Scotland, for which he was Oscar-nominated.

And I wrote a sketch where Edi Amin was the new boss at a mid-level office.

By the way, it fucking destroyed at the table.

I quote it all the time.

Destroyed at the table.

Yes.

I will not on this podcast do my impression of Forrest Whitaker's Ediamine because I feel as though nobody wants that.

Really?

I mean, I would desperately want it, but I think it's a good cause not to.

But if you can imagine, it was a lot of Forrest Whitaker's Ediamine being upset that someone ate his yogurt, even though he had labeled it.

Yeah.

I quote it to my kids all the time.

And the part about it that I still feel a little bad about is obviously Forrest Whitaker is an actor of an incredible skill.

There is a heft he brings to his performances.

There is work he goes into finding a character.

And I think he took a journey to find a place to play Ediamine.

And then for me to immediately make it a sketch character, he had a lot of questions about, is it funny for this character to be saying this stuff?

And all I'm, the only feedback I ever gave him was like, yeah, but just like do it like Ediamine.

He was giving an Oscar caliber Idiomine for Ueda Zioger.

It was so funny.

It was so funny.

And how did it play at dress?

Not great.

I should say it didn't play great, but also it maybe would have gone, and I have nothing but respect for this choice.

You could tell it just wasn't that much fun for him, and it was better not to do it.

I think that's why I liked it, though, because he was actually giving sort of more of a dramatic performance.

It was that.

I'm going to say something that is my theory and was my theory at the time.

Our SNL audience 100% had not seen that movie.

Yeah.

And that was the problem.

Right.

There's a scene in that movie where James McAvoy is his doctor, gets called in for an emergency.

Do you remember?

And then he takes a baseball bat, holds it across his stomach, idiomine stomach, and just applies pressure and he lets out a gigantic fart.

And that's when they kind of fall in love.

And he's like, you're my guy now.

And that's the story of that.

It's all based on a fart.

It's also one of the longest farts that you've ever seen on film, right?

Yeah.

I mean, it's like, it feels like it's like a 30-second fart.

It's very long.

And the entire relationship is predicated on that fart.

It's a very serious Oscar movie where they're like, and the inciting incident is a fart.

And it's true.

I will say another thing I cannot hear without thinking about this show and Forrest Whitaker is the Elton John song, Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me.

Do you remember the scene where Forrest Whitaker is a waiter?

He's a singing waiter and he keeps singing it and he keeps singing it going up one octave each time.

And the thing I remember about Forrest Whitaker is he keeps singing instead of don't let the the sun, he keeps saying do not, which is a really,

I feel like, is that a James Anderson?

No, Paula Pellin, John Lutz.

Okay.

But Forrest Whitaker keeps getting higher and higher and singing, do not let the sun.

I just, he left a mark.

Forrest Whitaker left a mark on me.

Also in this show, Yorma, Sloth.

Oh,

I'm talking about that's like a, is that a digital short?

No.

No, I would account.

You would not count it just because it didn't have the slate?

It didn't have the tag on it.

I would count it because I helped Yorm work on it too.

If Body Fusion counts, it should count.

It came exclusively out of our office.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's the shortest little piece of animation.

The joke being that it's a documentary that was sent in to a wildlife channel that's being given to them by a group of students at Staten Island Technical High School, and then they play the video and it's supposed to be about sloths and it's supposed to be educational, but the person who's presenting it hasn't seen it yet.

And it's Kristen Weag, who's presenting it.

And she hasn't seen it, but she's heard it's very educational.

And then it breaks very quickly into a sort of aggressive rock metal-y kind of song and then horrifyingly bad animation that i did on final cut of sloths like shooting uzis and i feel like stylistically it was kind of the precursor to o'brien's um insane clown posse thing yeah it had a lot of that fast pace setting can i just say one thing about sloths real quick please first of all keeve i remember distinctly you saying that this was reductive and that it was too too much like a commercial and you didn't want me to do it.

And then after I spent five days of 12 hours a day of doing animation, you were like, yeah, that's pretty good.

I don't know if you remember.

Okay, well, apologies.

I remember the part saying it was pretty good, but I didn't remember the negative part.

Yeah, you thought it was like a squirrel thing.

There was some squirrel advertisement that you were like, you can't do this because it's like these squirrels.

What I learned making the sloth thing was the song was made.

I had done all this animation for the sloths being crazy and clearly not acting like sloths.

And then I remember Joast was like, you need some context for this.

So you got to put a top and a tails on this of like how this is being presented.

And I remember it being like a real aha moment of comedy of like, oh, yeah, the audience is not going to get any of this without some context.

By the way, it's the exact same thing that happened on Laser Cats, but you hadn't learned it yet, I guess.

Burn.

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah.

Andy, since we can hear it, can you play it real quick so we can listen to sloths?

And today I'd like to talk about about some very special animals that don't get much attention.

Sloths.

They're furry, they have two or three toes, and yes, they're very, very slow.

Luckily, we just received a brand new documentary on these adorable creatures from a group of students at Staten Island Technical High School.

I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard it's a real eye-opener.

Let's check it out.

We sleep 18 hours, but we always pilot 24.

Packed in packs and we eat algae up a bird.

We got three toes, but we'll pop 3,000 police.

Break your nose and kick your face in a punch fight.

Eat bamboo, but prefer your girlfriend.

Change your mind with a pterodactyl bone.

Hire a dog to burn down a hospital.

Eat cocaine of America's gravestone.

Don't call us slow, don't call us slow.

That was not entirely accurate.

This has been a message from the Staten Island Zero.

Hey, Joe Steo.

Well, it was a Staten Island Technical High School because that's where his dad worked.

They want to give a little shout out to his dad.

Even better than I remember it, gentlemen.

yeah i forgot me and seds were on it yeah

you guys are rocking it incredible heightening on the lyrics i mean shank your mom with a pterodactyl dick bone

i'm pretty sure that was you andy and then i was murray did did matt murray do america's gravestone duco gain off america's gravestone it has a real natalie's rap heightening to how bad how quickly it gets terrible in that those are things you should never say yes it starts to go off the rails pretty quickly did you see the comment about the America's Gravestone is the best Beck Odelay line that was never recorded?

Really good.

That's a really good YouTube comment.

That's a good comment.

So you know what?

I'll just say Andy popping into frame, you know, a little soft, kind of has two and a half beats.

Yeah.

Sloss puts its foot to the gas and just never lets up and is just perfect.

It's much more on brand for us, frankly.

Yes.

Yeah.

I didn't remember that it was a song with lyrics either, which I think, Joram, correct me if I'm wrong, progressed throughout the week.

No, no, we had to make it first because I had to animate to it.

We actually recorded it really early on in the week because I was animating all week.

It took forever because I was animating in Final Cut, which is not an animation program.

Right.

The part that really got me, Yorm, that I had fully forgotten about was cutting to sloth from Goonies, spreading on electricity.

And the audience all completely understood it for some reason, I think.

Oh, yeah.

Well, that's when we were young and our references were their references.

I did a bit during the pandemic.

I think it it was during the pandemic where I said that I had been going to Impression Camp.

And the first rule of Impression Camp is don't do sloth.

But there's no way

doing sloth now would be on par with me trying to do Ediamine.

Even if it's a perfect sloth, people would say, what are you doing?

You'd be like, no, but it's, have you seen Goonies?

It's a great sloth.

You guys probably remember that Keenan and Joe shared an office office and had a Goonies poster on the door.

Do you remember that?

That it just hung there forever?

Yeah.

And when Josh Brolin hosted, he walked up.

He's like, there I am.

Like, he's so young and goonies that I even forgot.

Yes.

I was like, all right, that is you.

I've been looking at you every day that I've gone to Joe's office.

He was such a hunk.

He just became a different kind of handsome.

Guys, we're going to wrap it up with the fourth quarter here.

It's the Rain Wilson show.

Rain Wilson, the digital short is business meeting.

Daniel, what do you think?

Well, sir, our online division is hemorrhaging money.

I say we lose it.

Okay.

Peter?

I gotta go with Dan here.

Derek?

I'd lose tech support.

Okay.

Red?

Downsized research.

Water guy?

I don't work here.

Right.

Derek's twin brother.

I agree with what Derek said.

Mountain Joe.

Well, we could consolidate marketing.

Snake Eyes.

Scaleback IT.

Chief Big Cloud.

Long before Sister.

Now, Gary.

Sorry.

I enjoyed watching Business Meeting because it highlights that wonderful cast.

But it does end in a real Seth unfriendly way.

Not surprisingly, it ends in a real Magruber.

There was no ending, so a building just explodes.

The lapsing building.

Yeah.

Not my favorite.

Did it air after Magruber, the first Magruber?

Yeah.

So that's bad.

Did you use that building ever in a Magruber, the stock shop?

No, because Magruber is always exploding.

Yeah, that was a detonation.

Oh, this was the demolition.

It is the same idea, obviously.

By the way, there's a strong chance at that point that none of us are thinking there's going to be another Magruber.

True.

So we probably thought it was like a funny callback to Magruber, is my guess.

Yeah.

This was a Tacone Joast Samberg joint.

It was.

I remember, though, that Seth did a lot.

I think I directed this one, didn't I?

You did direct it.

And it was fun.

And Rain Wilson's very good in it.

And all of our cast is really good in it.

And Shoemaker's son, Austin, is in it.

And Shoemaker is in it.

That's right.

And I like that about it.

There's some good jokes.

This was another one, Jorn, where I was so busy trying to edit, but I did come in.

I was in that room, but you guys had wrote it.

You were in charge of it.

And I came in, I remember, and we just talked eye lines a little bit.

Oh, yeah.

Because it's kind of complicated.

And it was like, oh, no, here's the rule.

If you shoot rain straight down the middle, so when he turns to the left, he's looking camera left.

He turns to the right, he's looking camera right.

Then you can just shoot everybody on this side, this way, and this way, this way.

And you never have to like worry about it.

That's right.

And I remember us working it all out.

Yeah, because there's a lot of like people who appear and then disappear sort of thing as other characters.

Yes, which I really like that thing, too.

Yeah, it all works pretty well.

I like the arcade fire cameo.

Made me happy, I will say.

I also had that delicious turkey sub sub puppet in my house forever until it fell apart.

And the tiger, wasn't the tiger like on the wall in our office?

Oh, yeah.

The head mounted tiger head who didn't come prepared for the meeting.

Also, I want to give a shout out to another beginning of a franchise Danny song, which were those really fun sing-along songs that Sudeikas and Tucker wrote.

And it was Andy Sudekas Bill and Forte.

Those were always good times.

Yeah.

There's also a really good Yorum dances along to Arcade Fire,

what would have been now a TikTok

an Instagram story reel, where we would use a small digital camera like a photo camera because phones couldn't even take video back then.

And we would do a little video of Jorm dancing to the musical guest during rehearsals.

And we did a good one with Arcade Fire.

I was in my underwear, I believe, for that one.

Yeah.

You also can't do that probably anymore.

Guys, I was watching Business Meeting, what I miss.

Now that we're just talking about me getting naked in front of Arcade Fire.

Oh, yeah.

So guys, as we sort of finish up here, I just want to say we've finished four shows.

And again, maybe sloth, as we look back, I would say sloth and body fusion would be ones you'd want to talk about years later.

But also, great work was done outside of the digital shorts.

This is the dawn of an era where we get value from you guys that's not just your precious little videos.

Andy, Blizzard Man, Andy, Danny's song.

You know, and obviously, ideally, there'd be a third.

What is Danny's song?

He just talked about it when you were watching Business.

Oh, yeah, you were watching something.

Sudakis' sing-along songs.

You, Bill, Will, and Sudakis singing in a bar.

Remember, you would tell stories, and then you would,

but we didn't write that.

Isn't that Tucker?

Yeah, I was saying Sudakis and Tucker.

I was saying, but you're in him, yeah, and you're really good.

No, thanks.

You guys, I really have to go.

I'm sorry.

We all have to go.

You guys, this has been episode 17.

We're going to do three shorts in the next episode, which is going to bring us the end of your second season.

Ooh.

So, join us next week as we talk about all those digital shorts.

And this is cool.

Yorm is going to tell us what was so fucking important that he had to jump off the pod.

See you next week.