The Tangent and Close Talkers

52m
On this week’s episode The Lonely Island discusses another infamous digital short, The Tangent. Plus, the guys discuss Close Talkers AKA Two Inches, what Seth wrote that week, their favorite memories from working with Steve Martin, and more!
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Speaker 1 Hey, can we try something for the top? I'll say, hey, I'm Seth Myers, and then let's go. Akiva, you introduce yourself, Yorma, then Andy.

Speaker 1 Let's just all say our names off the top instead of making us say hi. And then I'll introduce the name of the show.

Speaker 3 Or you can go, hey, I'm Seth Myers, and all three of us can go, and we're the lonely island all together.

Speaker 1 I feel like we should do it both ways.

Speaker 7 Okay. Okay, great.

Speaker 8 Ready?

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody, I'm Seth Myers. I'm Akiva Shaffer.

Speaker 4 And we're the lonely island.

Speaker 5 No one.

Speaker 10 And we're the lonely island.

Speaker 11 And we're the lonely lonely island.

Speaker 1 God. Sorry.
All right. So here's the question for our listeners.
Would you prefer we start each episode like this?

Speaker 12 Hi, I'm Seth Myers.

Speaker 13 I'm Akiva Schaffer.

Speaker 11 I'm Yorma Tacone.

Speaker 14 And I'm Andy Sandberg.

Speaker 1 Or would you prefer this? Hi, I'm Seth Meyers.

Speaker 15 And we're the lonely. We're the lonely island.

Speaker 16 Try it again.

Speaker 6 Try it again.

Speaker 9 Because they have to have a good example of it if they're going to vote.

Speaker 12 Okay, ready? All right, Seth, lead us in.

Speaker 1 Hi, everybody. I'm Seth Meyers.

Speaker 5 And we're the lonely island.

Speaker 6 You took a huge sip of fucking coffee right when we were supposed to do it.

Speaker 17 Did everybody have their coffee?

Speaker 18 Let's just start with this. I just didn't realize that deep into your 40s, you were still all about torpedoing people's ideas.

Speaker 11 I think it gets worse and worse with time.

Speaker 1 Oh, you think this is sabotage?

Speaker 20 Jorb took a sip during the thing.

Speaker 1 You don't feel like he needed the coffee. I did.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I feel like ultimately, those are three fair shakes at it.

Speaker 24 What? So

Speaker 6 the lonely island to Myers Podcast.

Speaker 1 This is episode five, and we still haven't decided on a name. It could be Seth Meyers Lonely Island podcast or the Lonely Myers or The Lonely Island podcast hosted by Seth Meyers.
We don't know.

Speaker 1 What we do know is we're going to talk about an episode hosted by Steve Martin, musical guest Prince, with two digital shorts, tangent

Speaker 1 and two inches, parentheticals, close talkers. I think everybody is definitely going to appreciate how we've smoothed off the edges here in episode five as far as the top of show.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I would argue that theme song is not really keeping within the tone of what we're doing.

Speaker 1 Look, I think the good news is our tone's so all over the place, it just might at times fit.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 19 Keeve, I think you using your little bullshit headphones.

Speaker 2 I'm hearing the mic of them rub against your tank top.

Speaker 13 Oh, against my tank.

Speaker 1 Again, we don't want to give away too many visual clues on our show, but Akiva is in a tank today. It's a Rambo tank top.

Speaker 11 That's right.

Speaker 28 If you're going to be hot, you might as well be fully hot.

Speaker 9 Keeve, have you watched Samaritan yet?

Speaker 13 No, I have have not watched Samaritan yet. Should we do an episode on Samaritan? Should we all make sure we watch it?

Speaker 13 And then episode six is just about the Sylvester Stallone movie, Samaritan, that came out on Prime.

Speaker 26 I like that idea because it allows me to say, I have to watch Samaritan for work.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All of us. It's out now, Samaritan?

Speaker 13 Yeah, it's on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 1 How do we feel about it so far? Do we like it? Do people like it? I know no one here has watched it.

Speaker 13 I have no idea. It's just Andy knows it's something I will watch every day.
He's like, have you watched it yet? And every day that goes by, he can't believe I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 21 That's a little bit of an easy one because there's no movie that I've heard of coming out that I'm like, oh, Kiva won't watch that.

Speaker 14 It's true.

Speaker 1 I do want to say two of my favorite collective movie viewing experiences of my life were with you guys plus others. One was we went to a theater to watch the animated Beowulf, which was outstanding.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then one time at SNL, we watched Bad Lieutenant Port-a-Call New Orleans.

Speaker 16 Oh my God. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 Which is maybe the most perfect nick cage performance of all time it's up there it also has the iguana cam right yeah i'm really deeply mad at myself werner herzog was on my show and i can't believe i didn't use all my time backstage to talk to him about bad lieutenant port of call new orleans i also can't believe that you blew it all on what mandalorian tidbits no we did a documentary now episode based on him so i tried to explain it and it didn't right like what we are trying to do with documentary now was very hard to explain.

Speaker 1 I even showed him a picture and he just kind of smiled. He was like, what is this?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that if you're in actual documentary filming, it would have been if he said, I restaged your wedding and just showed me photos of other people

Speaker 1 in a place that kind of looked like my wedding. I would have reacted the way he did, where I'd go, oh, all right, cool.

Speaker 7 Interesting that you did that.

Speaker 29 Good.

Speaker 21 That's great. Seth, did you ask him about his hatred of chickens? Because that's the thing I always think of with Werner because he's on record hating chickens and how dumb they are.

Speaker 1 That's fascinating. I didn't know that.

Speaker 30 Yeah, he hates them.

Speaker 1 I asked him a different question about roosters,

Speaker 1 which is cockadoodle-doo is only English, right? Each language has a different word for what they think that sounds like. And German is kiki-ri-ki.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I knew that. You did know that.

Speaker 16 I did know that, yeah.

Speaker 1 And so I was like, which one do you actually think is better?

Speaker 33 And what did he say?

Speaker 16 I can't remember. Great.
Great.

Speaker 13 Well, that's something for people to go find, you know, go search it out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ultimately, this whole podcast is about cross-platform promotion to get people to go back and watch old interviews from late night.

Speaker 21 I think this is a perfect setup, you guys, because we're talking about the tangent.

Speaker 6 Oh my goodness.

Speaker 13 We've got a lot to talk about today.

Speaker 1 Before we get to the tangent, I'm glad actually that we've already established there's a fair amount of tangents within the body of this podcast.

Speaker 1 But before we get to our two shorts, I want to ask you guys this.

Speaker 15 Too short?

Speaker 20 You said it.

Speaker 30 I did.

Speaker 13 Are you going to blow the whistle, Seth?

Speaker 1 No, I was just going to say, this I feel like is the first comedy legend to host the show when you guys are on the show, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, we've had a lot of nice guests your first season, but Steve is, I don't know how you guys felt.

Speaker 1 When somebody like him showed up, it almost, he was too big to write for, I didn't even know how to approach it.

Speaker 2 Yes, it's insane to meet Steve Martin.

Speaker 17 It's insane.

Speaker 3 And then we're going to write stuff that he's going to say and he's going to decide if he thinks we're funny or not.

Speaker 9 Just the jerk alone. If you took away his entire career, it just were like, it's the dude that made the jerk.

Speaker 2 And now we are working with him in any capacity. It's crazy.

Speaker 21 I had a poster of him in college in my dorm room. Like, that's how much I, to use a parlance of the day, jocked him.

Speaker 18 And this is Akiba.

Speaker 17 Did you beat off to it? This is Akiba.

Speaker 13 I always ID myself before I say something weird.

Speaker 17 Andy!

Speaker 6 Quit interrupting me, Andy.

Speaker 17 Your, did you beat off to it?

Speaker 6 To the poster?

Speaker 17 This is

Speaker 1 my parents had his vinyl albums and i brought one of his vinyl albums to college i love that that's gonna sound like an edit when it actually was just seth moving on yeah

Speaker 6 there's a lot that was not

Speaker 1 sometimes my segues are gonna be so rough they'll sound like an edit

Speaker 21 they'll be so sudden I think it was probably the same album, and that was what I had as the poster. I unfolded the album, and it was a picture of him, and I had that on my wall.

Speaker 1 It would actually be fair to argue that everybody in the room that day, at least 1% of their comedy DNA came from Steve Martin.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It would just be impossible at that time to not have been influenced by him to some degree. And you're right, Andy.

Speaker 1 The craziest thing is not just that he's going to read the things you're going to say, it's then he's going to have to evaluate with one of his oldest friends, Lauren Michaels.

Speaker 1 And Lauren is going to be so mad if stuff's bad

Speaker 1 because we've embarrassed him in front of his oldest friend. I mean, we have a lot to talk about, but let's start with Tangent, which was filmed for the Scarlet Show and airs in the Steve Show.

Speaker 1 This is a digital short without Steve Martin. Hey, Joe, how are you?

Speaker 35 I've been meaning to call you. How was that restaurant you went to the other night? They were closed.
I guess they have two different locations.

Speaker 35 So we ended up going to the one uptown with the name change because the manager changed the name because there's two owners.

Speaker 35 But at the same time, I thought, why can't we just like come a little bit earlier to have some of the steak and some of the fish that they have, that's vegetables that they have, some of the fruits that they have, some of the salads that they have, some of the broccoli that they have, some of the peas that they have.

Speaker 35 And the thing with New York is any place like above 42nd Street usually closes before 10 p.m. So you're not able to find the table that you want.
You're not able to order drinks.

Speaker 35 And even something with...

Speaker 1 Akiva, why don't you, to the best of your ability, explain tangent for our listeners?

Speaker 31 Yes.

Speaker 13 So this came from Bill Hader, and it's based on the thing that Fred does where he can just talk about anything forever. You can just say, go, and he'll just talk.

Speaker 13 And it basically tells the story in a very short film artsy way of this guy who gets asked a very simple question about a restaurant that he ate at by Wig.

Speaker 13 And then he just starts talking until she gets bored and walks away and he doesn't even seem to notice. And then Bill Hayter walks up as like an agent and goes, wow, this guy's got something.

Speaker 13 And then it just goes through an entire like show biz life without Fred ever stopping talking.

Speaker 13 And it goes all the way through, you know, him becoming famous and then having a movie bomb and then being back where he was. And it's a pretty tight two-minute vignette is what you might call it.

Speaker 1 This is a weird show, actually, because the cold open was a pre-taped film piece that Steve wrote. And then the monologue was something Steve wrote.

Speaker 1 A sketch later in the show that I believe was a filmed piece as well. There was a lot of film pieces in the show, yet we also used tangent from a previous show.
Obviously, you're going into air.

Speaker 1 You know you have two shorts.

Speaker 23 Were you excited about that, Akiva?

Speaker 17 Did it feel weird? I don't remember if it did or didn't.

Speaker 13 I just know that the thing that we keep coming back to that we kind of forgot is that the first season, we have a lot of guest guest writers yes we hadn't quite figured out the formula yet and so there was a lot of just going to friends on the show and going like yeah anybody has one we'll do one which happened so much more rarely in later seasons and so the tangent was written by hayter even though it's for armison which is also odd on its face that bill would write a whole sketch that he's barely in but i have a special clip here now i texted bill and i asked him to send me a voice note telling me why he came up with tangent here you go the idea for the tangent came from Fred just doing a bit where he would go off on a tangent, and I thought it'd be really funny to just have him saying it to a bunch of different people.

Speaker 36 Like he just never stops talking and ends up going on this weird little journey.

Speaker 36 To be honest, I don't really remember much of it other than after we did it, Mike Shoemaker came up to me and was like, why did you not write that for yourself?

Speaker 36 And I think it's the only laugh-free digital short.

Speaker 36 I think it's the only digital short that people want, huh?

Speaker 36 And I remember it played either before or after the famous Steve Martin

Speaker 11 surf

Speaker 36 camp sketch where he says, I'll see you guys in the blue room at the end of it.

Speaker 36 But I was proud of it.

Speaker 37 There you go.

Speaker 9 Our first guest.

Speaker 17 Does that count as a guest?

Speaker 31 Our first guest.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's so funny because I think that in his answer, he also answers Shoemaker's, why didn't you write that for yourself?

Speaker 23 And the answer is, because it is going to bomb super hard.

Speaker 1 It is, I mean, it is a thing you often saw Fred do, which was talking off the cuff without pause that became a much more effective skill later on with Nicholas Fain.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it was the same move of just. being tangential within the body of an answer to a question.

Speaker 21 Yes, but it is a concept piece that is relentless and has no laugh points, technically.

Speaker 33 There's escalations.

Speaker 2 It's kind of built like a TV funhouse in some ways when like he would take an old piece of of audio and have crazy things happening to the person.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I liked it. I watched it this morning and I liked it.

Speaker 9 I also will say that voice note from Bill was about 20% more enthusiastic than I was expecting.

Speaker 17 He's on set.

Speaker 1 Akiva texts him at 3 a.m. Wake up and said, this is an emergency.

Speaker 40 We need to take.

Speaker 1 I will say my favorite moment of re-watching him is the look Bill gives when he walks by Fred and recognizes it as a potential piece of talent.

Speaker 1 Like his agent face is delicious.

Speaker 39 Mine is also a Bill moment, but it's at the end when the movie bombs where Bill's walking away in the office looking at his phone.

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 21 Yeah, that's my favorite part.

Speaker 6 Like, Bill Age just doesn't care.

Speaker 3 Situation, being like, I started this and now I'm acting like I have nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 Also, that's Lauren's office

Speaker 1 where Parnell plays the sort of head agent, I guess.

Speaker 21 Parnell looks comfortable in that office, too.

Speaker 6 Parnell looks wild and comfortable in that office.

Speaker 13 Are we saying after the 50th, maybe he's the successor?

Speaker 40 Maybe he's the guy.

Speaker 37 He looked good in the office.

Speaker 8 He looked good.

Speaker 1 That would be a thing that Lauren would say.

Speaker 39 He looks good in the office.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 24 A good reason.

Speaker 21 Got to learn how to play Snood, though.

Speaker 2 I'm pretty hyped for that turning into a clickbait.

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Is Partnell taking?

Speaker 13 I was surprised to see TRL in there and I liked it. I was surprised to see the nightly news in there, and I liked it.

Speaker 13 I kind of liked the whole short.

Speaker 12 Was that Gideon Yago?

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Gideon a good man. Yep.
Very nice to see him turning up there.

Speaker 13 I enjoyed it more than I thought I would this morning. That's my takeaway.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I forgot how many places we went to with that. Like, there was a bunch of surprises.
Also, those concept ones, to me, like, it's one of my favorite shorts.

Speaker 13 It's not getting laughs, but it's not really asking for laughs. So it's not uncomfortable the way that other things, like, for instance, surf meeting might be.

Speaker 23 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 21 Like, for instance.

Speaker 1 I did think it was weird. Obviously, it's not.

Speaker 1 If anybody goes back and watches the short, the part that you won't see is that after it aired, Akiva did walk out in front of the live audience and say, you know, that wasn't asking for laughs.

Speaker 25 So

Speaker 16 we're even.

Speaker 1 It didn't actually bomb. Yeah.

Speaker 13 What episode is this? Five?

Speaker 31 Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 2 I think I'm learning how different me and Yorm saw the show based on your reactions, Jorm.

Speaker 9 Like you were super mad about the Higgins Lazy Sunday thing.

Speaker 27 And then now I'm finding out that the tangent is one of your favorite shorts we ever did.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I'm just like, we have like genuinely different views.

Speaker 1 i should note that andy you share your views with everyone else

Speaker 1 that's true you're saying i'm a little more down the middle i think you might have the populist position right yeah jorm's artsy yeah but you're not that surprised that i kind of skew like a breakfast defector you know what i mean you've always been a bit demented yeah i'm demented yeah i should note it also feels like a short film And weirdly, most digital shorts don't.

Speaker 1 I don't know quite the distinction, but it felt.

Speaker 9 Both of the ones this show felt like throwback short films from SNL to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Schiller's Reel type things.

Speaker 21 I think that that's why I like both of these.

Speaker 29 Yeah, they're both classy for sure.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It again is that funny thing that it was 2005, 6.

Speaker 13 Yeah, now we're in 2006.

Speaker 1 It's 2006. And it looks like a 1993 independent film.
It doesn't look like 2006.

Speaker 21 No, the quality is not very good on the video cameras. Yeah.
And shittier than the show, too, because now we're in HD, too. This is, again, our first year of HD.

Speaker 1 It doesn't have this sort of crisp HD stylings of surf meeting, which we keep alluding to, but we're going to save for the end because.

Speaker 31 You know what they say?

Speaker 7 Save the worst for last.

Speaker 1 I mean, was it the last thing of the show?

Speaker 5 No, talk to the podcast.

Speaker 21 Be sure to not tune in to the end of this episode.

Speaker 1 So our second short is two inches backslash close talkers, Forte and Steve Martin. And I should note, it brought me a lot of joy to go back and watch it.

Speaker 1 I should also note, I keep saying I should note, and I realize that is my podcast tick, but I self-recognized it, and I'm going to try to eliminate it right now.

Speaker 13 If it'll help, I'll start saying it more if it'll help you.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yorm, how would you describe Close Talkers?

Speaker 21 Close Talkers is a sketch where Will Forte

Speaker 21 and Steve Martin see each other. They're maybe old colleagues or friends, and they have a very intimate, close talking conversation.

Speaker 21 At first, you think they might kiss each other and it's very romantic. And then the rest of it is just an insanely close talking conversation where their lips are inches apart.

Speaker 21 They have a very normal conversation. Then they get angry at each other and then they peel apart and then they come right back into it.
And it's very funny.

Speaker 13 I would add that the volume of their voices is in direct contrast to how close they are. They are speaking at full volume as if they are across a room.

Speaker 13 And then at the very end, they actually are very far away, but you don't realize it because they finally talk quiet, like, hey, this was really nice. I'll see you soon.

Speaker 13 And then it reveals that they're like 40 feet away from each other now.

Speaker 21 That part didn't work as well, I feel like.

Speaker 20 Agreed.

Speaker 13 I think they would have had to been even further away, but I remember in that hallway, we couldn't get them any further.

Speaker 21 No, that's what CG is for, you know what I mean? But we didn't have CG back in the day.

Speaker 35 That's right. Gary, how are you?

Speaker 35 I thought that was you. Hi.
It has been so long. You look great.
Not as great as you look.

Speaker 35 Gary, thank you for saying that because I've been feeling very insecure lately, and that comment is just what the doctor ordered. That was an easy prescription to fill.

Speaker 35 There's that old sense of humor. I'm not joking.
You look great.

Speaker 35 Thank you.

Speaker 35 So, uh,

Speaker 35 you're standing a little closer than usual. What are you implying? I don't know.
Why don't you tell me? You know what? What? All of a sudden, I have to go. Then, all of a sudden, go.
Fine. Fine.

Speaker 1 I think it's safe to say that no one on that SNL writing staff or cast cared more deeply about Steve Martin than Forte. Would that be something you guys would agree to?

Speaker 9 It's saying a lot, but I would agree. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think Forte definitely hyper-influenced by Steve Martin. And it was really then cool to go back and watch that sketch and know how much that must have meant to Will.

Speaker 21 I will say the edit of that piece was one of the more interesting experiences for me because we tended to over-edit and not want to waste your time.

Speaker 21 And then sitting with Forte, and I felt like he was pretty instrumental in being like, no, no edits. There should be very few edits.
And it was funnier the way he was pitching.

Speaker 33 Was it something he had done prior to SNL?

Speaker 2 It felt like dialed like it's a performance he had done before.

Speaker 13 Funny, you should ask.

Speaker 28 So the idea for Close Talkers came from a sketch that I used to do with a guy named Mike Schwartz, who was a very funny comedian, very funny writer and actor.

Speaker 28 He actually used to write on the show Scrubs, and he was on the show as well but we wrote that together at the ground links we called it two inches but essentially it was exactly what Steve Martin and I did in that sketch so Mike very graciously said yeah you know that thing that we've done for years and years and years together on stage and we share very equally in it go do it with Steve Martin and I thought that was really cool of him anyway I miss you guys I love you bye wow

Speaker 1 that was delightful hard to hate that guy also maybe I need to know what instructions you gave Forte because not the most succinct guy insofar as leaving messages.

Speaker 14 That's the fastest he's ever been. Yeah.

Speaker 10 He's gotten way better.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 13 Would you believe me if I told you there is a four-minute version?

Speaker 33 And you text him back and say, do a shorter one?

Speaker 13 No, this is why I will say Yorma is right. He has grown a lot.
I got two from him. I got the four-minute one.
And then a minute later, he went, Here's a shorter one.

Speaker 13 If that one was too long, oh my god.

Speaker 21 Yes, he's learned quite a bit from press.

Speaker 1 But that is the real icing on the cake of that story: is that he hasn't gotten better in a way that saves him time,

Speaker 1 he's gotten better in a way that adds a minute.

Speaker 17 You know what I mean?

Speaker 40 He does the original, and then he has to do it shorter.

Speaker 1 It also should be noted that a lot. Oh, fuck, I said should be noted again.

Speaker 31 It also

Speaker 1 is very forte that the time

Speaker 6 watching him struggle through trying not to say it.

Speaker 22 We're okay with you saying it.

Speaker 1 A lot of the time he wastes is praising other people.

Speaker 8 Oh, all of you.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's not ego. It's not talking about himself.
Yeah. Instead, they stop two inches away and have a full conversation.

Speaker 21 My problem with it being called two inches is that they're significantly less than two inches.

Speaker 1 It's less than two inches.

Speaker 13 Well, that's why publicly it is called close talkers. If you want to go find it on the internet, look up close talkers SNL.

Speaker 13 But I think that's it because they did go nose to nose and then past nose to nose, like where their noses noses are almost touching the other one's cheekbone.

Speaker 21 It's like maybe under an inch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've got a technical question. Were there cards for Steve? Obviously, Forte was off-book, but we did have cards and then didn't use them.
Right. So Steve just learned his dialogue.

Speaker 13 Part of what's so intimidating about Steve Martin is not just that he made the funniest, goofiest stuff for so many years. That was all of our favorite.

Speaker 13 It's that then, as an adult, he really grew up and became an adult who like knows about fine art.

Speaker 31 Yes.

Speaker 13 And is an expert banjo player and is actually writes like novellas and is part of the pretentious art world that I don't even understand. So he's done both.

Speaker 13 So then it's really intimidating to present any kind of writing.

Speaker 21 But what I do like knowing, though, is Seth, you've told me about moments where you've been able to have dinner with him and Martin Short and hearing Martin Short rip on Steve, it brings you back to his humanity of like, oh, but you still have friends that are just going to talk shit to you nonstop and make fun of you.

Speaker 1 And I should note that I feel his favorite thing in the world is getting ripped on by Martin Short to the point that it seems as though it's a game they often play.

Speaker 1 But it's an apartment filled with the most beautiful art I've ever seen. And Steve will point at the painting and say, Marty, tell me everything you know about this painting.

Speaker 1 And Marty said, well, it's very embarrassing, Steve, because you hung it upside down.

Speaker 16 Damn. Just old school killers.

Speaker 13 He really is the funniest.

Speaker 1 Not to get off on a Steve and Marty Love Fest, but the fact that those guys still go and do a stage show where they obviously put so much time into the crafting of individual jokes it crushes yeah they never float on their reputation or even their charm but the amount of technical effort that goes into writing the best possible jokes

Speaker 1 all right so man we really tangented tangented well it's a perfect episode title the tangent I also want to talk about the fact that this was a really special show, and I think one that all of us had circled on the calendar that year because it wasn't just Steve Martin, it was also Prince.

Speaker 1 I just want to say there's nothing more Prince than the fact that we did a Prince show where Fred played Prince, which was an established recurring bit on the show. Wonderful.

Speaker 1 One of the most fun impressions of all time.

Speaker 35 Prince, what do you see?

Speaker 42 I swam with a dolphin once.

Speaker 1 And we did a Prince show in a show with Prince and Prince wasn't in it. Right.
That's right. Which is such a great Prince move.

Speaker 1 The expectation being, if you write a Prince show, he'll eventually cave and agree to be in it. And he didn't.

Speaker 14 They definitely asked his rep

Speaker 2 who said Prince is not going to do that.

Speaker 1 I'm stealing two people's stories. The first one, I love it so much, which is Maya and Amy were talking to Prince when they were shooting the promos.

Speaker 1 When we say the promos, that's the host and the musical guest and maybe one or two cast members on stage. And at times, Steve Martin, I'm hosting SNL this week with Prince.

Speaker 1 And then half a joke, the whole thing takes 12 seconds.

Speaker 1 And while they were setting up cameras, Amy said that her and Maya were talking to Prince and just nervously trying to fill the conversation with somebody who's that iconic.

Speaker 1 And Amy said, in her nervousness, she started explaining all the sketches that were in the show that week. She said, oh, man, it's going to be such a funny show.

Speaker 1 We've got a sketch where, and Prince just went,

Speaker 11 don't ruin it, which I love.

Speaker 1 Prince was, in the end of the day, enough of an SNL fan that he didn't want to hear what the sketches were on Thursday.

Speaker 2 Or he was being sarcastic.

Speaker 13 That's a nice way to look at it.

Speaker 32 And he didn't want to be told about it.

Speaker 1 The other was that Fred and Maya were told that he would talk to them after he finished rehearsing on Thursday about being in Prince show.

Speaker 1 So they had talked to his reps and the reps came back and said, yeah, when he's done rehearsing, he'll come over and talk to you. Now, again, not like they paid any cost.

Speaker 1 They got to watch Prince rehearse. A great use of anyone's time, no matter how busy you are.
Especially, it should be noted.

Speaker 1 Maya and Fred are going to want to watch Prince more than anybody.

Speaker 1 And then he finished his song and he walked off stage and they just watched him never break stride and walk all the way down that long hall and get in the elevator.

Speaker 17 Wait for it.

Speaker 17 Right from the stage to the parking lot.

Speaker 3 They're like, I don't think he's going to do it. I don't think he's going to do the sketch.

Speaker 21 I did like his exit from one of the songs was just holding up that last note, holding out the guitar, and then laying it down on the ground and leaving.

Speaker 21 You're like, yeah, that's the fucking coolest move ever.

Speaker 1 Yep. I think if there's one thing we can agree on, it's that Prince was cool.

Speaker 18 Seth, were you there?

Speaker 27 Did he play the Time 100 and stood with his back to the audience at the back of the stage the whole time?

Speaker 1 I remember him at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for George Harrison when he did the Guitar Gently Weep solo. And when he finished that one, he threw his guitar in the air.

Speaker 39 Well, anyway, I was just trying to get it out there that I went to the Time 100 once.

Speaker 27 So that's.

Speaker 1 Were you at Time 100 honoree, Andy?

Speaker 2 I don't think so.

Speaker 4 You never were on the 100?

Speaker 27 I have no idea.

Speaker 2 I feel like I went to do something.

Speaker 5 I hosted it?

Speaker 31 You probably hosted it.

Speaker 7 I think I hosted it.

Speaker 1 It's a pretty gnarly room to do jokes in.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it is genuinely across all fields the most influential people. Are you Googling whether or not you ever were on the time?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 20 I was checking something else.

Speaker 12 I will say right now, if you were watching the Zoom, Andy's got real Google eyes. Yeah.

Speaker 17 What did I, who am I?

Speaker 6 Just squinting.

Speaker 1 I bet that is actually a hard thing to Google. I'm guessing it's not a robust database where you can just type in.

Speaker 2 I was thinking I was just going to look up Time 100 on my own computer to see if I have a document of jokes.

Speaker 8 Ah, I see.

Speaker 11 Oh, good pivot.

Speaker 1 Good cover.

Speaker 21 Wait, did you guys go to Prince's After Party, though?

Speaker 11 We all went to that, right?

Speaker 1 I did not go to Prince's After Party. I to this day don't know why.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I was there. It was like a listening party where we went to a club and we got to meet him and shake his hand, which was like, you know, incredible, obviously.

Speaker 21 And then you sat there while he was on top of a balcony looking down at everyone on the dance floor and we just listened to his entire album but there was only like 15 people there yeah it was just his band and then us and like fred and maya it was sort of awkward but also great yeah it was super empty so it wasn't a dance party it was just him watching you listen we danced me and my wife danced hard to you know show him appreciation and there was a buffet of food and this is at 4 a.m 5 a.m but no matter whose album you're listening to that's still an awkward thing to do.

Speaker 21 Like, no matter how good.

Speaker 11 After song four, you're like, whoa, the whole album.

Speaker 21 We're going to listen to the whole one.

Speaker 13 It's also the middle of the night.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 11 or early morning.

Speaker 21 Was it the next day that we all flew out to L.A. and Prince was on our flight, though?

Speaker 12 Yeah, that was the next day.

Speaker 1 Was he really on your flight?

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You were on a commercial flight with Prince.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 21 It was very weird that he was on it and was the last person to board.

Speaker 13 It was our first first-class flight we ever took, me, Andy, and Norm, because we were just starting to write Hot Rod, not even writing it yet.

Speaker 13 We were just getting flown out to meet with Paramount about it.

Speaker 13 So it was a first-class American Airlines flight and the whole plane had boarded to get at what Yorm's getting at, except for two seats in the very first class.

Speaker 13 You know, there's only nine seats total up there.

Speaker 13 And then right before the door shut out of nowhere, Prince and one of his like dancers or bodyguards just like float into those seats and then the door is shut and we're taking off within seconds.

Speaker 17 Wow.

Speaker 21 But also the rest of the first class cabin, because we were like, oh, this is first class. This is what this is.

Speaker 21 It was the three of us, Paul Thomas Anderson and Maya Rudolph, and Mario Testino, who's a massive fashion photographer.

Speaker 22 And then Prince showed up and we were like, oh, wow, this is first class. This is what it's like.
Always.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 4 You always know everyone.

Speaker 1 The only time first class feels like the way I thought it would be in movies is when you fly back after the Emmys, because everybody in New York is sort of on the same flight. Yes.

Speaker 1 And I remembered once Alexi Alexi and I, my wife, got on a plane to fly back, a red-eye back after the event.

Speaker 1 And Slattery had the seat between us.

Speaker 1 And I know John. He'd been on the show.
He'd done cameos on SNL. And I said, hey, do you mind switching? And it was great because he just said, no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 13 He just sat between you and your wife the whole flight.

Speaker 1 It was such a good bet that he wouldn't switch.

Speaker 6 But then, of course, he did.

Speaker 12 I love that.

Speaker 30 Just John Slattery refusing to switch so that a couple can't sit together.

Speaker 1 Hey, can we take a quick stop by Seth's Corner?

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, please. Fuck yeah, gotta.

Speaker 6 Seth's Corner, you're all invited.

Speaker 24 Seth's Corner, it's happening right now.

Speaker 6 Take it with it.

Speaker 1 So, this is a thing that I realize is just going to continue to happen the longer I'm away from the show.

Speaker 1 I wrote a sketch that I went back and read that I had literally not one iota of memory about called State of the Galaxy, where I played a Brian Williams robot in 2050.

Speaker 1 And Forte, who was playing George W. Bush at the time, was playing a descendant of George W.
Bush. And it was a lot of jokes about 2050 based on the current news.

Speaker 35 Freedom in our galaxy continues to spread. The planet Jupiter just held democratic elections for the very first time.

Speaker 35 Unfortunately, the creatures of Jupiter elected the radical Flurgon Party, who have promised to destroy Earth within a year.

Speaker 35 But there is good news in the war against terrorism. We are very close to capturing Osama bin Laden.

Speaker 13 This aired. This went to dress.

Speaker 18 This aired.

Speaker 1 I think it was written as a cold open, but then we didn't need a cold open because there was a pre-taped film that Steve brought.

Speaker 21 Can we hear your robot, Brian Williams?

Speaker 1 Oh, I think it's better to hear Andy's Brian Williams. But good evening.
I'm the Brian Williams 3000. Tonight, president of Earth.
I mean, that's pretty good, Brian Williams.

Speaker 1 And now can you do yours, Andy?

Speaker 6 I'm Brian Williams.

Speaker 13 Yours has more gravitas, Andy.

Speaker 21 It's a little Nick Cage in there.

Speaker 6 Well, if you own.

Speaker 7 What are you doing? Yours is old.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm like, wait a minute.

Speaker 13 Yours sounds 20 years older.

Speaker 4 I found my Time 100 jokes.

Speaker 6 Oh, great.

Speaker 30 It only took five minutes. That's great.

Speaker 1 Do you have any one? Do you want to read one?

Speaker 13 Pick out a good Time 100.

Speaker 21 We're interrupting Seth's corner, though.

Speaker 3 I'll just read the whole thing.

Speaker 6 It's only like 25 pages.

Speaker 26 Good to be hosting the Time 100, or as it's known to many, the Nerds' Choice Awards.

Speaker 33 I don't know a lot about politics.

Speaker 26 I had to read up a lot for this, so forgive me if I pronounce your name wrong.

Speaker 16 I'm talking to you opera wan free.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're off and running.

Speaker 32 Yep, amazing to be here at the Time 100, or as my parents will always remember it, the night Andy met L E Weise L.

Speaker 5 I don't know, man.

Speaker 14 This is all good stuff.

Speaker 29 That was plenty.

Speaker 17 That was great.

Speaker 21 Thank you. Yeah, okay.
Now, Seth, back to your corner.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like now we're going to have to write a Andy's corner within the body of Seth's corner corner.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 13 Should we surf meeting? Andy's obviously going to be vacant for the rest of this because we can see his face.

Speaker 13 It's got the comforting glow of a laptop much closer to it than usual as he squints to read 25 pages of Time 100.

Speaker 1 I should note that his reaction to his Time 100 jokes are they are delighting him, but he knows none of them would work here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, they're not great.

Speaker 21 It definitely seems like early days in terms of your hosting.

Speaker 18 It was probably too soon for me to do something like this.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 20 But those are good.

Speaker 1 I think you could make the argument that there's no reason to ever want to get better at hosting things because then you have to keep hosting things.

Speaker 1 But it's very important to do a couple things like the Time 100 if you're going to eventually host the Emmys.

Speaker 19 Sure, which we both did.

Speaker 1 We both did. And these were sort of our building block award shows where it wasn't televised, but you did have A-listers in the room and you figure out what works and what doesn't.

Speaker 26 Yeah, and a lot of it is like talking to people, which is the game you always end up doing, but like doing jokes like Sarah Palin is here, joke to Sarah Palin about Sarah Palin.

Speaker 6 You know, it's like, Jesus, this is fucking intense.

Speaker 1 And you can see him in that little room. Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 44 Where museum days turn to electric lights.

Speaker 44 Where riverside sunrises glow and monuments shine in moonlight.

Speaker 44 Where there's something new for everyone to discover.

Speaker 44 There's only one DC.

Speaker 44 Visit washington.org to plan your trip.

Speaker 42 I am so excited for this spa day.

Speaker 17 Candles lit, music on, hot tub warm and ready.

Speaker 42 And then my chronic hives come back. Again, in the middle of my spa day, what a wet blanket.
Looks like another spell of itchy red skin.

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Speaker 1 All right, so we're going to finish off tonight with a sketch I I think about all the time, mostly because every time I see Steve Martin, he brings it up.

Speaker 1 And this sketch is surf meeting and you guys wrote it. Will you tell me and our listeners what surf meeting was about?

Speaker 8 Andy.

Speaker 25 Surf meeting was a classic format for us.

Speaker 21 Became one.

Speaker 39 Which was one person sucking and not being able to take a hint over and over and over again, like way too many times.

Speaker 33 There's a surf meeting. It's a bunch of surfers meeting on the beach.

Speaker 26 I'm the leader of the surf crew saying one of us doesn't fit in and it's unfortunate, but we're going to have to ask one of our members of our surf crew to leave.

Speaker 46 And Steve Martin is in an old-timey bathing suit, looking super dorkish and old, going like, oh no, who is this gnarly bro?

Speaker 35 All right, everyone, thanks for meeting me down here. There's something we need to discuss, so listen up.

Speaker 35 Now, you may have noticed that someone in our group doesn't really fit in and has been ruining our surf sessions. Totally.
Yeah, Thank you.

Speaker 35 Wow, that person sounds totally a gnarly.

Speaker 35 You're right, Ted. They're not gnarly.
They're not gnarly at all. Now, I think we've given this person as many hints as we possibly can, but unfortunately, they still don't get it.
What a loser, huh?

Speaker 35 Who is this guy?

Speaker 35 Actually, he's in the circle right now, Ted. One of the Brohams? No way.

Speaker 35 Yeah, Ted, one of the Brohams. Ho,

Speaker 35 wipeout.

Speaker 13 So it was making us laugh so hard when we were writing it.

Speaker 19 We were like, this is the best thing ever.

Speaker 20 It actually played great at the table.

Speaker 46 Yes. And we were like, we did it.

Speaker 18 We cracked a super funny sketch for Steve Martin where he kills and we get to like have it be on the show.

Speaker 6 And then

Speaker 41 we started blocking it.

Speaker 4 Like when we rehearsed it the first time without cameras, everyone laughed again.

Speaker 11 And we were like, oh, yeah, it's the best.

Speaker 9 And then we just started rehearsing it.

Speaker 46 And for whatever reason, it started tailing off.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it was like the blocking was wrong.

Speaker 21 But the show is like, if you don't fix it right then, then that's your blocking and you're fucked.

Speaker 13 And that's what it felt like was happening where you're like, oh shit, this was a live sketch. We should clarify.

Speaker 17 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 13 That's what was the big difference.

Speaker 26 We're down on the floor rehearsing it, blocking it out.

Speaker 33 At the time, we really were like, the blocking must have messed it up because it was so funny.

Speaker 39 But it also may have just been a thing that sometimes happens, which is a sketch can be really funny as a radio play and as written and with you sitting at the table reading it.

Speaker 39 And then when you actually act it out, there's something about it that just doesn't translate to a live sketch.

Speaker 31 Yes.

Speaker 1 I don't think blocking had anything to do with this not working.

Speaker 21 Can I say what I think the actual problem was?

Speaker 43 Please.

Speaker 21 Which probably is not the reason.

Speaker 21 One of the things that happens, though, in live sketches is that if there's a lot of characters, and this had a lot of, it was like six different people or maybe seven with Steve.

Speaker 21 And that requires cutting to individual people, which means that there's someone in the booth having to be like camera one, camera two, camera.

Speaker 21 And so there was a lot of timing issues that were happening on the fly while someone's reading the page rather than being able to like time that out properly. Like there was no wide shots.

Speaker 21 It was a lot of editing.

Speaker 21 And I feel like if those hiccups start to happen where it's like you're cutting to someone before they're ready for their line or right after, like, I think that added to this is maybe just an excuse.

Speaker 13 I would argue it could still work as a short, where we could make the edit go faster and faster and faster.

Speaker 31 Yes.

Speaker 13 I also will say that the moment it stopped working and there was no time to fix it because you just get that one blocking on Thursday and then one more rehearsal on Saturday, it was like, then I saw Steve Martin correctly going, oh shit, this one's not going to work.

Speaker 13 What else can I add on top? So he changed the way he did it to be way goofier to try to save the sketch.

Speaker 21 And correct me if I'm wrong, I'm remembering it like a Ross Trent joke where his pronunciation pronunciation and stuff should be all old fogey not goofy yes as morale plummeted in the success of the sketch steve fought so hard to and i actually remember like in between dress and air going in to give him last notes on it like very disheartened like

Speaker 21 and just being like i wish we had more time and he was like i wish we did too it's so good and it's not gonna be good

Speaker 5 I do remember him after the show being like, what happened?

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 41 He was distraught about it because he liked it.

Speaker 37 Yeah, yeah, he really cared.

Speaker 25 And we all thought it was going to be a winner, and it had a great rhythm to it.

Speaker 9 All of the surfers ended up having really stupid names.

Speaker 2 That was the second game of the sketch.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I was in it.

Speaker 1 I played a surfer. My name was Slapshot.

Speaker 17 Slapshot and Buttfish. Buttfish was a big one.

Speaker 22 Even you, Buttfish?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and he keeps asking everyone if they were firm on their decision that he should go.

Speaker 21 It's like five pages of, Are you firm on that?

Speaker 6 Really? All of you?

Speaker 35 We all feel that way, Ted. Even you, Buttfish? Yeah.

Speaker 35 Dragonfly? Seriously? I already said yes. Okay, now you're firm on that? And Slapshot, are you firm? Yeah, I think we're all firm.

Speaker 35 Okay, well, I guess I'll be on my way. But before I go, would anyone like to come with me? Colossus?

Speaker 35 No, I'm good. Buttfish? Ted, please go.
Okay, I'm leaving. But before I go, I'd like to hear Buttfish's answer.
No.

Speaker 1 That's sort of a light motif of your writing. Andy, I mean, you like the comedy of a guy who keeps asking a room full of people the same question.

Speaker 31 Yeah. Yeah.
So does Yorm. Yes.

Speaker 13 And circling back, keeps circling back the last person and then circling back to person one, going, and you, again, you were sure.

Speaker 30 So he's about circling back.

Speaker 21 I will say when it was like five in the morning or whenever, like super late when we were writing it and I was dying laughing, I feel like this was the beginning of people not trusting my laughter at a certain time in the morning ever again, where they were like, oh no, this is a surf meeting laugh.

Speaker 21 Like where I'm doubled over.

Speaker 1 Yorm's laughing too hard. This is not going to work.

Speaker 17 That's really true.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 6 When you heard a certain tone of laughter, you were in trouble.

Speaker 16 You're like, oh boy, this is just for one person.

Speaker 39 But I will say, Yorm, writing surf meeting was one of the most fun moments of my entire time at SNL.

Speaker 8 Like we were dying, laughing, writing it.

Speaker 39 For whatever reason, it was just like slumber party giggles, like the middle of the night, and we were doing our dream job.

Speaker 46 And it just felt like incredible.

Speaker 21 Those are the moments that make SNL so fucking special and make you miss it.

Speaker 21 It feels like you're at like comedy college and you're having the best fucking time with like the funniest people in the world.

Speaker 13 I also want to reiterate something you said, Andy, in your description, which is like, we were so excited about it because it played great and we were like, oh my God, we're going to have like a smigel level classic SNL sketch.

Speaker 13 Like my expectations of it were sky high. And I remember it exactly like you do, which is that it did do really well at the table and it did do really well at the first read.

Speaker 13 But then the moment it was really on its feet and people put on wardrobe, something fell apart. And then the second guessing made it spiral into something that's truly horrendously embarrassing.

Speaker 27 Also, I think there were cuts made between dress and air to try and fix it, and that neutered some of the magic of how the too many times-ness of it.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Now, let me just play a little clip here that might offer a different perspective.

Speaker 36 My memory of surf meeting was that we did it at the table, and Andy, Yarma, and Akiva were laughing really hard, and no one else was.

Speaker 6 And I thought,

Speaker 36 well, that was a nice try.

Speaker 36 And we all have those moments where we kind of bomb at the table, and at least they were having fun. And then I got picked, and I was like, well, that's cool.
I'm in it.

Speaker 36 So I get to wear a wetsuit and be in a sketch with Steve Martin. And then when we would rehearse it, no one was laughing except Andy.
So

Speaker 36 every time Steve Martin would say, Blowfish, do you have anything to say?

Speaker 36 And Andy would be crying, laughing. And then Yarma would come out to give notes and he would be crying, laughing

Speaker 36 and i just thought you know what maybe i needed to grow up in california to get the humor in this one oh my god and i mean i felt like oh this must be how everyone feels when i do like vincent price

Speaker 36 or you know a dead celebrity from the 50s it's just like oh this is your sense of humor and this is what's great about the show you don't have to get everything

Speaker 36 and then we did it on air

Speaker 36 and the audience and the world felt the same way I did. And I'm sure a lot of them did grow up in California.

Speaker 36 But Steve Martin really sold it. He understood it.
And I was happy for my friends that they got their sketch on.

Speaker 36 And I'm not really one to talk because, as I said, the tangent played. And even the kids in the hall would be like, this needs some laughs.
This is like all attitude.

Speaker 6 Oh, my God.

Speaker 16 I disagree with him.

Speaker 13 I think he's misremembering because tangent was good and this one we were not happy with.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So guys, I want to give the perspective at this point, I'm barely in sketches. Holding on for dear life.
Very sweet of you to put me in here as a slapshot.

Speaker 1 I feel like this is final days of me as a sketch performer. I felt like I was aiding and abetting in a crime against a comedy legend.

Speaker 1 We were all in our cool ass wetsuits, and this legend was in a dumbass 1920s swimsuit. For sure.
He was the only guy who was even supposed to get a laugh in it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 None of us had lines to get laughs. Yes.

Speaker 1 So it was basically the younger generation doing none of the work and just watching one of the great comedy magicians of all time not be able to pull a rabbit out of a hat because we gave him a hat with no rabbits.

Speaker 23 But at a certain point,

Speaker 19 it's not on us to say like, hey, this shouldn't air.

Speaker 1 Well, so here's the thing that Steve Martin always talks about. I feel like Steve to this day.

Speaker 1 has a bone to pick with Lauren, but knowing Lauren, he thought this was a great sketch because it was the young generation with Steve. He loved the way it looked, right?

Speaker 1 That's the kind of thing, no, it's Andy and Bill.

Speaker 45 Got a great look.

Speaker 1 It looks good, and Steve, and he'll make it work.

Speaker 1 And Steve was definitely, in his telling of it, fighting for a sketch called Bank Loan, where he and Amy Poehler were clearly alcoholics who just wanted money to go get more drinks.

Speaker 1 And they were drunkenly trying to get a bank loan from Parnell.

Speaker 1 And Steve had a far better time in his regular clothes sitting next to Amy Poehler than he did standing in an old-timey baby seat with a bunch of dudes.

Speaker 9 100% understandable.

Speaker 1 100% understandable. But the great thing and why surf meeting endures for me is that for all his successes, it is a failure that still sticks with Steve Martin.

Speaker 6 Oh, man.

Speaker 30 Well, this is giving me some real food for thought.

Speaker 13 We felt that guilt, by the way. We felt guilty.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 13 We were like, I can't believe we're responsible for any kind of a pockmark on his career.

Speaker 6 If an audience member screamed, leave him alone, it would have been fair.

Speaker 45 I have so many regrets about that week.

Speaker 2 I can't remember if I've told you guys this story too.

Speaker 33 When we were blocking a different sketch, he so nicely was like chatting me up, being like, I heard that you did stand-up before the show.

Speaker 37 And I was like, oh, yeah, I did.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's like, what was your stand-up like?

Speaker 14 I mean, obviously I was slightly in a panic, but I was like, it's kind of like meta.

Speaker 45 Like, it's almost like making fun of stand-up.

Speaker 7 I'm just like explaining to him the thing he invented like 30 years previously and did the best of anyone ever.

Speaker 5 He's like, oh, that sounds interesting.

Speaker 7 And I was just like, I fucking suck.

Speaker 6 I don't know how to talk or do things good.

Speaker 19 But those moments where you never forget shit like that, where you're like, I blew it.

Speaker 45 Like I had just me and Steve Martin just chatting it up and I just tanked it.

Speaker 1 In line with you explaining meta comedy to Steve Martin, Jerry Seinfeld once offered to do something on the show. And I talked to the update team, and we decided he should do a really with me.

Speaker 1 I called him, and I believe I'd never talked to him before.

Speaker 1 And I said, We think you would be really good at doing a really.

Speaker 1 And he said,

Speaker 1 Some might say I even invented it.

Speaker 1 And it was just dawning on me, Oh, right.

Speaker 8 That it, that you're who I'm doing.

Speaker 1 He did it and was great.

Speaker 20 And the way he did it changed the way I did it after that.

Speaker 39 Oh, interesting.

Speaker 19 I believe the time he did really was the only time I ever had my actual nightmare happen on SNL,

Speaker 2 which was I was chatting with him under the bleachers and I was so gassed that I was getting to talk to Jerry Seinfeld that I forgot I was in a sketch.

Speaker 7 Wow.

Speaker 34 It was like a courtroom sketch.

Speaker 39 I didn't have lines, but I didn't know that because they had cut my one line at the top of the sketch between dress and air.

Speaker 2 So it actually didn't end up being a problem because it would have just been a shot of me sitting next to another cast member, like in a suit at the top of the sketch.

Speaker 26 But it was the most panic I've ever felt maybe in my entire life.

Speaker 2 It was like, I looked up at the monitor and the sketch had started and I was like, I am supposed to be in that.

Speaker 7 It was horrifying.

Speaker 21 What did you do? Did you run over or was it too late at that point it was too late i think i ran over and they were just like

Speaker 1 because i had no lines they were just like get the out of here you blew it no one yelled at me or anything because it just worked out and everyone's like who cares i remember having a mustache on in a sketch with jennifer garner i was a store manager and i walked off after what i thought was my last line and i think polar or drach was backstage and i just saw them and very cockily walked up to them and went

Speaker 1 and like ripped off my mustache.

Speaker 22 And they were like, You have another line.

Speaker 23 So I was super cocky, got me like, My hair is a mustache out.

Speaker 1 And I had to press it back on my face, drop the mic.

Speaker 5 How did they know?

Speaker 1 They were in the sketch, so they were backstage with me.

Speaker 19 Oh, backstage of the set.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I walked offstage thinking it had been my last line, and I had to walk back on one more.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, my God.
Thank God they told you.

Speaker 1 Episode six is another big one, which I feel indicates the path that the shorts are going to take for years to come. Natalie Rapp will be our next.
Lovely talking to you guys again.

Speaker 1 And by the way, not one of you said happy anniversary.

Speaker 1 And I forgot that, Keith, you were not at my wedding because you were such a good dude that you let your wife come so you could take care of the girls.

Speaker 13 Yep. I still remember standing at the airport holding both of them waving goodbye with two teeny little kids.

Speaker 1 God, that is a very cool move.

Speaker 21 You're a very nice dude, Keeve, because that was a really good wedding.

Speaker 11 You fucking blew it.

Speaker 13 I remember it because I bring it up to Guild Tripper like once a week. So it's always fresh.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it should be stressed. We ask for people not to bring kids.

Speaker 31 So smart move.

Speaker 5 It was a fun wedding. It was a good wedding.

Speaker 39 This is a hard one to talk about, though, because I don't want to make it sound like it was super great because Keith had to miss it, but I don't want to make it sound like it was bad because I don't want you to feel bad about your wedding stuff.

Speaker 1 I think at this point, Keith knows it was super great.

Speaker 13 I wished for it to be great. I wasn't at home being like, I hope it sucks.