PMS 2.0 1391 - Daniel Jeremiah, Adam Schefter, Marty Smith, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Here we go Tuesday August 19th. I'm AJ Hawks sitting in for Pat as he travels the world I believe right boys doing something freaking pretty awesome that I think we'll all see eventually

Speaker 1 Football It's what we do. It's August 19th.
I know sometimes people think there may not be a whole lot to talk about in the football world, but guess what there is?

Speaker 1 Coming right off the top, we had some breaking news hit about 45 minutes, maybe an hour ago. Nine-year NFL vet Darius Butler is jumping out of his shoes.
He is so excited.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones has been named the starting quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 Club,

Speaker 1 come up, for Daniel.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones, baby.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. Get him to all the balls.

Speaker 1 Big day, dude.

Speaker 1 Big day. Bit of believe bar for the ball.

Speaker 1 Darius Butler, let's go to you. Obviously, Indianapolis Colt legend, nine-year NFL vet.
You know everything about football.

Speaker 1 I don't say that. The fact that Daniel Jones was announced starting quarterback quarterback today, I guess what does that do for the Colts? What does that do for the team? And were you expecting this?

Speaker 1 Or did you think Anthony Richardson was good?

Speaker 2 I was not expecting it. I didn't know.
I didn't know which way it was going to go. I'm not, you know, shocked, you know, but AR, he had an opportunity.
DJ, Daniel Jones, had an opportunity as well.

Speaker 2 AR, I felt like it was probably his job to lose, so he couldn't beat out Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 And the people that I've talked to, I guess, around the organization, close to it, who have seen the battle, didn't seem shocked, didn't seem surprised. So that lets me know.

Speaker 2 And I said it yesterday, the locker room won't be surprised. You know this as well.

Speaker 2 If it's a quarterback battle, you probably weren't around many quarterback battles thinking of the teams you played with.

Speaker 2 But if there's any time a quarterback battle is happening, the locker room shouldn't be surprised when the starter is announced. So it's another opportunity for Danny Dimes.

Speaker 2 You know, he is somewhat a relatively young quarterback.

Speaker 2 We have seen more of him on the football field. So AR, still younger, still more upside, but you got to think about it.
Shane Steichen, Chris Ballard, they're coaching for their job.

Speaker 2 You know know, with carly uh taking over the ownership role um everybody knows they're coaching they're playing for their jobs day in and day out so this is a decision made with that in mind consistency was a big thing for shane i based on my timeline doesn't seem like coach nation is very very excited it's been a revolving door and you drafted a guy in the top five so you had high expectations but this is where we are right now uh we made some moves and uh Now we know which direction we're going.

Speaker 2 So Daniel Jones is our guy going forward.

Speaker 1 That's my thing.

Speaker 3 Like the Colts Twitter is very,

Speaker 1 very mad about the decision.

Speaker 3 And I understand being mad because, yes, this basically signals not for sure, not 100% that you, but you wasted a top five pick

Speaker 3 on a quarterback that has not worked out. So yeah, as a fan base, when you waste a top five pick on a quarterback, that sets you back a lot, a lot of years.

Speaker 3 But being like really, really mad at Shane Steichen for picking Daniel Jones, I don't get, I don't think they're picking Dan Jones because they want to lose.

Speaker 3 I assume they were at practices and watched the film and watched both these quarterbacks and decided that Dan Jones was the best quarterback at this time to win games.

Speaker 3 So I don't understand why they're so mad at Shane Steichen. I can see them being mad at Ballard because he was the one that drafted Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 3 Or they're just mad at Shane Steichen because they're saying they didn't give him enough time to grow as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 I mean, I thought they,

Speaker 1 you know, people were pissed because Stinken said, hey,

Speaker 1 he's our guy for for the whole season. Stinking.
Coach Steichen. Yeah, Steichen for the season.
Yeah, yeah. Bingo, what you guys said.

Speaker 1 He basically said, hey, Daniel Jones is the QB for the entire season. I thought that's why Colts Nation was so pissed because it really doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 I like that he's saying, like, hey, this guy's got no leash. Go out there, spin it.
It's not as if you throw a couple picks, you know, we're going to pull you.

Speaker 1 But if they're two and six going into week nine,

Speaker 1 and Steichen is up there saying, hey, Daniel Jones is still our guy, you got to put AR in because now everyone's talking about, okay, so they're done with Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 But then if you listen to what Chris Ballard said before, Chris Ballard said, like, hey, this isn't a make or break year for Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 So maybe like the fifth-year option, there's no way you can really pay someone to give someone a fifth-year option, especially at QB, if they don't play this year. But

Speaker 1 if Danny Dimes goes and balls out and his number is like astronomical

Speaker 1 and Steichen and them keep their jobs and AR has another year

Speaker 1 to learn, do you think it's possible that they can bring AR back and see, like, you know what? Yesterday he took an entire season. There was no injuries.
There was no off-the-field stuff.

Speaker 1 He just learned behind Danny Dimes. Like, do you think there is a realistic route where that could happen?

Speaker 1 Or, hey, if Danny Dimes does well, the Colts are going to inevitably pay him to keep him here.

Speaker 1 There's no way AR can.

Speaker 1 It's a great problem to have, obviously, if Daniel Jones steps in and plays so well that they have to pay him a bunch of money.

Speaker 1 But what do you do with Anthony Richardson? I don't know. I mean, how do you now you got to think about Anthony Richardson also mentally throughout the rest of the season? Like, you got to be ready.

Speaker 1 You're one play away, obviously, but it's got to be like a jarring blow when you're thinking, hey, I'm going in. Here we go.
Year two. I'm healthy now.
I feel good. He's done everything.

Speaker 1 He came into camp in shape, all this stuff. And then you realize, hey, I'm not getting the starting knot.
But you know, like, that's the thing though. You have to realize you're one play away.

Speaker 1 There will be a time this season when they're going to need Anthony Richardson. I don't know how long that might be for.

Speaker 1 It might only be a series, might only be a quarter, maybe a game or two, maybe 10 games. We don't know, but you have to be ready, Ty, right?

Speaker 4 Well, like Connor was saying, like, obviously, Steichen, like him saying that Danny Dimes is going to be the start of the whole year is just posturing. Like, that's bullshit.

Speaker 4 We know that's not the case. If they start 0-4, like, they're going to go to Anthony Richardson.
So it's one of those things where, I mean, but... I don't know.
I mean, you guys would know more.

Speaker 4 But like you said, like, the locker room's not shocked. Like, you can't really pout or anything because Anthony Richardson had every opportunity to win this job.

Speaker 4 Like, and if it would have been even somewhat close, they're probably going with Anthony Richardson, right?

Speaker 4 So Daniel Jones went out and he won this job and left no doubts. So, I mean, I don't know, but it's also you're looking at what he's done in his past and his career.

Speaker 4 Like, it's not like you're backing up Aaron Rodgers and it's like, okay, unless this guy gets hurt, I have no opportunity of playing.

Speaker 4 Like, like you mentioned, like, there is a good chance that they're going to need him to play this year, and he could play himself into the starting role within a couple weeks if they don't play well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can stand near the Baker Mayfield situation, verbatim, especially just when you look at the Colts' offense.

Speaker 1 Now, they don't have, you know, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, but Michael Pittman's been paid. He's very, very good.

Speaker 1 And then they have a couple guys on there that you would assume if they have a good season, they might get paid. Josh Downs, you know, maybe not A.D.
Mitchell because it's only his second year.

Speaker 1 But when you look at just their skill in general, it is like Baker going to, yeah, bingo. It is like him going to Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 And if Danny Downes is legitimately probably thinking to to himself, like, here we go. If I go out there and win nine games, like, I probably earn myself a $40 million contract.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 3 he saw it last year. He finished the season with the Vikings.
Like, he saw Darnold do it.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 3 it has happened more lately than I feel like it did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess who's the next guy? Who's the next QB to kind of get

Speaker 1 your career? It's going to be like every year now. Yeah.
Gino, like, you know, Gino, Darnold, Baker, like, it's happening all the time now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and he's a first-round pick. So he obviously has to be excited.

Speaker 2 He has all all that we talked about. He has all the pieces, and I said it earlier.
Um, it is the NFL. It's not for long.
Coach of the coach for their job.

Speaker 2 Uh, Chris Balor is GMing for his job, and I feel like he's done his job to put a good roster together around these quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 And he has to feel somewhat good because you do, you go out and take a shot, draft anti-Antony Richardson, but then you bring Daniel Jones in, who had a competitive market somewhat, like other teams wanted Daniel Jones to come in and play for him.

Speaker 2 So you bring him in, and then Daniel Jones wins the job. So now, okay, you rest on, you use the piece around it.

Speaker 2 Jonathan Taylor, the offensive line, the pieces on defense, who, you know, you got to get healthy and they have to play better, bringing in

Speaker 2 Lou over to call the shots on defense. So, you know, you have some hope, but as a team, as a locker room, it is good.

Speaker 2 You know, you hate not really having that direction, not really knowing who your guy is.

Speaker 2 And we just mentioned those names, Sam Darno, Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, who have revived their careers in different places. So it will be that opportunity there.
It'll be tough for Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 It is good, you know, you know, being named the starter for the year, but he knows, I'm sure he hears the noise. He knows the fans aren't clamping.
The fans are fans are excited.

Speaker 2 But he's coming from New York, too. So

Speaker 2 he's used to kind of dealing with those things, man. But it's going to be loud.
It's going to be tough.

Speaker 2 But as Colts fans, I'm sure you're frustrated. A lot of people kind of, I'm seeing a lot of Arch Manning rock pitchers.

Speaker 1 That's what they're saying now.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 2 But I'm still hopeful as a Colts fan. I got to to be optimistic.
It is what, August 19th. So

Speaker 2 we got our guy. We got our guy.

Speaker 2 And both of these guys, regardless of who won the job, I felt like we would have seen the other quarterback at some point in the season, just based off what we've seen with these guys, not only just playing-wise, but health-wise.

Speaker 2 These aren't like necessarily Ironmen up until this point in their career at least. So I think this isn't the last we've seen of AR, and I hope he stays prepared.

Speaker 2 He stays ready for his next opportunity, whether that's here or somewhere else.

Speaker 3 And for the AR side, you can, I don't know, know, maybe give Bryce Young a call because he got benched, what, last year? So, and he's come back and he looked at the number one pick.

Speaker 3 Yes, number one pick looked really good. Has looked really good in training camp this year.
They love what they're seeing going in. So you can come back from this.

Speaker 4 How difficult is it, though, with like the whole thing with AR has been like, hey, this guy needs reps. He needs to play.
And it's like, okay,

Speaker 4 he's not going to be getting any reps. So it's like, how does he actually get better when all the physical stuff is there? But that is his biggest thing.

Speaker 4 It's like, this guy needs to actually play football to get better at it.

Speaker 1 True. It's tough because it's true.
You're going to want to give all your reps to your starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 Especially even if you throw a couple reps here and there to Anthony Richardson, hey, take the last couple of walkthrough or, you know, if you here, you're definitely going to have reps for him.

Speaker 1 But if you're not the guy and you're not the one that is going to be in there, yeah, like, of course, we've got to focus on who's going to be in there on game day.

Speaker 1 Like, that's going to get the majority of our attention and the majority of the reps. So for Anthony Richardson, yeah, how do you continue to develop when you're not getting those valuable reps?

Speaker 1 It's like the whole cliche. You got to get the mental reps.
You got to prepare like you are the starter. Yeah, you do.
Sometimes that's hard to do for 17 straight weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you think they have to, this is like a, hey, you kind of have to trade this guy type of situation. Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 1 Anthony Richardson, yeah. Like if you're, if you're.
No, I don't think so. Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't think so. It's not like a,

Speaker 2 you know, when you have a guy with such a big, I guess, brand and it's just going to cause a lot of distractions, like a Cam Newton or a Tim Tebow or it's not one of those type situations.

Speaker 2 I don't think it'll be a distraction because

Speaker 2 we've all saw his career and how it's unfolded when he had the opportunity last year and the year previous with the injury and everything like that.

Speaker 2 So we've all seen it and we know why he's the backup. And these guys, we see the preseason games, but we know that's just glorified practice.

Speaker 2 Those are two, three practices from these guys compared to whatever else they're doing in front of the teams and in front of the front office. So I don't think it's a situation.

Speaker 2 I think you still, you know, you try to develop him. And once that opportunity comes, you know, you got to harp on him to be ready.

Speaker 2 And it's going to be on him like we're talking about you know get him reps and develop him and it's a national football league like we we're feeding each other's families like i'm responsible for you and the food you put on your plate and same for coaches same for people in the front office so yeah you want the best for anthony richardson but if i'm chris ballard oh yeah

Speaker 2 you know damn jones better get these reps and i want to see him getting better week in and week out and the same for shane and the same for shane and everyone else in that building Yeah, somebody, we're not going to keep waiting on the line any longer.

Speaker 1 Somebody who probably has a little more info on this situation. He's He's the host of the Move the Sticks pod.
We all know that. But before we even get to this great DJ, hold on a second.

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Speaker 1 that's as simple as it can be. And with that being said, please welcome Mr.
Daniel Jeremiah. Daniel, what's happening? DJ?

Speaker 5 What's up, boys?

Speaker 1 DJ, are you surprised at all that Daniel Jones is named starter for the Colts? Did you know this was coming weeks ago?

Speaker 1 How do you feel about this?

Speaker 5 I wasn't really surprised. I mean, I just thought, you know, with Daniel Jones, it's the little bit of the unknown which works in his favor, you know, in terms of being inside the building there.

Speaker 5 I thought Anthony Richardson, normally you'd say the tie goes to the young guy. I just think it had been such kind of a rocky experience that they wanted to try something new.

Speaker 5 So he was going to have to be significantly better than Daniel Jones. And, you know, the preseason, I didn't think there was a huge gap between those guys.
But, you know, talking to people that have

Speaker 5 been in there during training camp and everything, you could kind of see this swinging towards Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 Daniel,

Speaker 1 can we tell enough from preseason games, especially with quarterback play? You can look at numbers and all that.

Speaker 1 I know sometimes they can get, you know, inflated if a guy takes a screen past 65 yards for you or whatever, gives you some good-looking stats.

Speaker 1 But can we tell when we're watching these preseason games with quarterbacks?

Speaker 1 I feel like unless I'm there day in and day out, watching practice and seeing, hey, how's the two-minute drill going? How's it going? Move the sticks, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 How do we, like, can you evaluate quarterbacks from these preseason games?

Speaker 5 I've always said, like, preseason is a liar.

Speaker 5 So there's been times every single year where people will take something with the preseason and they run with it, and then there ends up being absolutely nothing to it.

Speaker 5 Now, like, with quarterbacks personally, I think you can see, you know, is the game too fast for guys? You know, it's only going to get faster when you get to the regular season.

Speaker 5 So especially with, you know, rookies and young guys, you can get a sense of just how sped up they are. Are they a little bit under control? Is there some poise there?

Speaker 5 I think those are the types of things

Speaker 5 that you can glean from that. I don't know that the production in terms of what the stat sheet looks like, the box score, if that tells you who's played well and who hasn't played well.

Speaker 5 But you can see. I mean, you guys know when you get rookies out there, young players out there, you can tell guys that, okay, he's going to be able to help us.
That's kind of the way I look at it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, DJ, speaking of cornerbacks, Ty Schmidt has a question for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, DJ, so speaking of that, you know, the preseason being a liar and everything, how enthused were you on Caleb Johnson's performance the other night with with

Speaker 1 Caleb Woods?

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson. Yeah, I did.
Ben Johnson.

Speaker 4 You know, everyone saying the same thing, like, you know, vanilla defense, but he obviously looked unbelievable. What do you take away from his start the other night?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was fired up. I mean, if nothing else, it just kind of gave you a display of the weapons,

Speaker 5 especially with Loveland being in the mix now.

Speaker 5 You saw Burden get one later on in the game. So I think it was just kind of a display of like, okay, the offensive line looks, it's more competent now with the upgrades they made along the interior.

Speaker 5 We've got weapons, and it was kind of a chance for Ben Johnson to show off some of the creativity, which I think has been lacking there last year under Caleb.

Speaker 5 So, you know, I've never, ever questioned Caleb's ability. I think the talent is all there.
I thought more than anything else, even more so than the offensive line in the scheme.

Speaker 5 They need somebody to kind of pump him back up full of confidence. And, you know, you watch that preseason game, again, more so than the stats or the throws.

Speaker 5 This looked like the old kind of confident Caleb Williams when he was rolling in college.

Speaker 1 Come in. Go ahead, buddy.
Yeah, DJ. Thank you, AJ.
DJ, great to see you. Always a

Speaker 1 pleasure. You had a great tweet about New England last night.
Obviously, Terry McLaurin not there for the Commanders. Trey Hendrickson was on the field talking to Duke Tobin.

Speaker 1 And then Micah, obviously, being the other guy.

Speaker 1 And you basically said, hey, look, if you're, you know, Elliott Wolf and the New England Patriots, you at least, you know, shoot your shot at Jerry Jones, try and go after Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 I believe there was another tweet about the Packers possibly being one of those teams with Micah.

Speaker 1 You know, everyone's interested in all three of these guys, if they are truly available.

Speaker 1 Who do you think any of these guys are going to end up with? And do you think Terry's probably going to go back to Washington?

Speaker 1 Maybe Trey Hendrickson, the price goes down in a week or two and then he gets traded. What do you kind of foresee when it comes to these guys?

Speaker 5 Well, first of all, I hadn't been on the show since we were going through the the draft stuff. And I thought, gosh, what do I have to do to get back on the show?

Speaker 5 And I'm like, oh, dude, if I tweet about the Patriots, like, I'll be off.

Speaker 1 You're killing me.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So that was the easy way to approach that.

Speaker 5 It's rare to see these guys, personnel guys, never go on the record on anything. Everything's always vague and nondescript.

Speaker 5 So when Elliott Wolfe comes out there and publicly says, yeah, no, shoot, we'd be willing to trade a first or second round pick for a premier player.

Speaker 5 I was like, I don't know that you say that unless you really are trying to be aggressive and go after one of these guys. So that caught my attention.

Speaker 5 And then the first two names that came up were McLaurin and Hendrickson. And I'm like, okay, well, if we're going to go big game hunting, well, you might as well swing for the fences on that one.

Speaker 5 If you look at it and say, okay, we've got the young quarterback. He doesn't cost us anything.
We can afford a big ticket item. Then, shoot, I would start at the very top.

Speaker 5 Now, I don't think Jerry Jones, I don't even know if he takes the call, much less would entertain trading Micah, but

Speaker 5 I would at least effort that. I think the more realistic one would be Hendrickson.
I don't even think McLaurin gets traded.

Speaker 5 I mean, I just, I think with where they are with their young quarterback and a team that was very close last year

Speaker 5 against the Eagles in the championship game, I figure that as soon as we get closer to the regular season, that thing

Speaker 5 gets worked out there in Washington. But Hendrickson, you know, the Bengals, that just seems like

Speaker 5 that's not going in the right direction. And they seem to be, at least by all accounts, a little more open to moving him.
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 I like the fact that the Patriots kind of put themselves out there and said, hey, man, we're open for business. We want to be aggressive.
That's not normally something you hear.

Speaker 1 DJ, as far as Hendrickson goes, I know they claim that they're close on the average per year that he wants, but the guarantees are nowhere near what Hendrickson's want.

Speaker 1 Do you have any idea what those numbers may look like and what kind of deal he's looking for?

Speaker 5 No, I have to go. Like, you know, I think Ian or one of those guys would be able to help you on the number thing in terms of where they are.

Speaker 5 I was talking to an agent who had a player this last offseason and a team, you know, as they were going through a negotiation and kind of hearing the stuff that gets out there publicly and then getting a peek behind the curtain of like how, you know, far or how close they are.

Speaker 5 Sometimes what's out there in the public and then what, you know, the differences are on the numbers can be drastically different.

Speaker 5 So you can be close in one or two areas, but if you're the agent on the player,

Speaker 5 if there's one of those criteria where they're not in the same ballpark, that's tough to get through.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Go ahead, Debut.

Speaker 2 What's up, DJ? Good to see you. Quarterback battles.
We just named Flacco got named yesterday. Daniel Jones got named today.

Speaker 2 It's one more out there down in New Orleans with Tyler Shuck and Spencer Rattler. Which way do you think they're going to go with that battle and when do they announce it?

Speaker 5 I would, I mean, I can just tell you which way I would go.

Speaker 5 I would go with Shuck just from, you know, seeing him live against the Chargers in that first preseason game and then watching him a little bit last week. I think there's more to kind of dream on.

Speaker 5 This doesn't feel like it's a playoff type season for this squad. So let's learn what we've got.
And to me, he offers more upside. Let Kellen work with him.

Speaker 5 Kellen does a nice job with the screen game.

Speaker 5 They'll give him some opportunities to have some success.

Speaker 5 I don't see them winning a whole lot of ball games, but he's shown enough to me that I'd be intrigued to see what he looks like.

Speaker 5 And they can go into the draft next year knowing what they have with him. So in terms of the timing of it, I mean, I think sooner than later, you want to get that done

Speaker 5 just so you can, as you guys were discussing,

Speaker 5 prioritize and divvy up those reps and get him ready to go. So that he's an older guy, too, man.
He's got fucking four degrees. Like, you know, it's not like this is a long development here.

Speaker 1 Get him up there.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's 25. We had the game against the Chargers, and I think Trey Lance, either the same age or maybe even younger than him.
He's been in the league five years. Jeez.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Speaking of quarterbacks that have been around for a while, Ton Diggs has something for you, DJ.
Yeah, I do, Mr.

Speaker 3 Sticks.

Speaker 3 There's a potential situation brewing in New York with the Giants because Jackson Dart has played so well in those first two preseason games.

Speaker 3 Now, Brian Dayball named Russell Wilson the starter a while ago, but I mean, it's we know Dayball could be coaching for his job this season.

Speaker 3 So it's like you want Russell Wilson because you know he's the veteran and he's going to make the right decisions.

Speaker 3 But then if you put Jackson Dart in at some point and he shows flashes, they may keep you around just because they want to keep that continuity together.

Speaker 3 How do you feel about the situation in New York and how Jackson Dart has looked so far in his first two preseason games?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I really like the way that he's looked. And that goes back to just, you know, he looks like it's the game is pretty slow for him, which is good to see.

Speaker 5 You know, it's a lot of vanilla stuff in the preseason, but he looks very much in control.

Speaker 5 You know, he can move around and create and make plays with his legs, but he's a nice job hanging in the pocket, you know, showing that toughness that he has and delivering some strikes working in the middle of the field, which is another good sign for a young quarterback that he's comfortable.

Speaker 5 He doesn't just stay and live on the perimeter. He's comfortable working in the middle.
I've said the same thing, you know, since they drafted him.

Speaker 5 I think this is a year where we see more of Jackson Dart than we see of Russell Wilson. But, you know, Russell Wilson, give us a month, man.
Give us a month or six games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what DJ.

Speaker 1 Do you think they have a plan? Like, do you think Dable has some kind of plan in mind? Like, or, hey, Russ, you play yourself out of the job or what?

Speaker 1 You just keep going until we feel like you're not getting it done, Russ, or what?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, look, dude, the schedule is brutal. Like, their schedule, there's no easy entry point for a young quarterback when you look at it.

Speaker 5 But I, you know, so I look, I've been around teams and been on teams where the plan is like, hey, this guy's going to sit the whole year.

Speaker 5 We don't want to play him. We're going to redshirt him, basically.
And then two games into the season, you're like, well, frick, we might as well just throw this guy out there.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 5 whatever the plans are, they have a way of

Speaker 5 changing. But I think we'll see more of Dart this year than we do of Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Dege, I had to follow up.

Speaker 3 When you were talking about Chuck and the Saints and kind of seeing what they have for next year's draft, I know from listening to Move the Sticks that you've already dove into the quarterbacks from last year.

Speaker 3 I was listening to you guys around the time of the Manning Passing Academy and everyone was very, very impressed with Sellers there.

Speaker 3 Who do you see being the top quarterback in

Speaker 3 next year's draft? Because I know Arch probably not coming out, but Sellers, Nuss, Cade, all those guys.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, let's assume that Arch is going back to school.

Speaker 5 I guess when you say, it's the first time with a prospect I've ever said, I'll take his grandfather's word for it. You know,

Speaker 5 I don't think he's going to come out. So,

Speaker 5 dude, a lot lot can change and guys get better and guys, you know, regress.

Speaker 5 But I popped on sellers, and I don't know if I had had a good round of golf that day or what, but I was like, holy crud, like, this dude is impressive. He is big.
He is physical.

Speaker 5 He can drive the ball. He creates.

Speaker 5 I thought this dude is...

Speaker 5 He'd be someone that's going to be really exciting to watch. So I'll be watching a lot of South Carolina.
Nuss is just real efficient.

Speaker 5 He would be underneath him right there for me, just accurate, efficient, tough.

Speaker 5 Excited to see him this year. I'd have Klubnik a little bit below Nuss, but shoot, we'll see those guys score off week one, so that might settle itself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, DJ, how do you feel about the whole Matthew Stafford situation right now? I know he's back at practice now, finally. He's dealing with some kind of back injury, I guess.

Speaker 1 Do you know anything more? And

Speaker 1 how comfortable are you with him, I guess, being able to make it through the whole season?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, at back, dude, I don't think you mess around with that. So I don't know how anybody could say you feel great about it or you feel super confident and comfortable about it.

Speaker 5 The only thing that I would say that I just witnessed it again the other day with the Rams, they're playing their backups, and they're so well coached, man. And

Speaker 5 they're so physical, even with their backup unit.

Speaker 5 They're going to be dynamic on defense with that front. And then you look at what they want to do running the football.
They've got some backs now.

Speaker 5 They've got a stable of backs and a real physical offensive line. And McVay scheming it up.
I don't know that they're going to be super you know, quarterback dependent.

Speaker 5 So, you know, even if Stafford, I wouldn't be saying, like, hey, let's just get him ready for the playoffs, like that you can't do that in the NFL.

Speaker 5 But I don't know that he needs to play a full 17 games or be kind of the driving force of that offense for them to be a really, really good team in a playoff team.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Tosh Schmidt.

Speaker 4 DJ, what are your expectations for Cam Ward this year?

Speaker 4 It seems like draft night, you know, he went first unceremoniously, and we kind of swept right over it with Travis Hunter, you know, getting traded up for right after that.

Speaker 4 And And even this preseason, he's had a couple nice throws, but he hasn't really wowed anyone and he hasn't really been part of the conversation like a lot of these other guys have been.

Speaker 4 What are your expectations for him this year?

Speaker 5 I went out there and saw him at training camp.

Speaker 5 And I'll be honest with you, just watching him at practice and then watching the preseason, I'm way more concerned about the guys catching it and the guys blocking for him than I am for him.

Speaker 5 I think he's going to be good. And you saw some big-time throws in the preseason.
They just weren't always hauled in. Ridley's a stud.
He's going to get a ton of balls.

Speaker 5 But they've got, you know, they're going to have a mixture of some bets like Lockett, and they've got some young kids like Io Manor as a rookie.

Speaker 5 But I don't think the offensive line is quite where it needs to be. But look, I was talking to some of their coaches and stuff, and I'm like,

Speaker 5 saying it nicely, but hey, the good news is last year you guys were bad and boring. I don't think you're going to be boring.
I don't think you're going to be boring this year with Cam.

Speaker 5 He's going to make it kind of fun, and you'll see some splash plays. But they're in the very early stages of building out that roster.
They earned the first pick. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I guess that is true. You do earn that thing.
But speaking of teams that might be under the radar a little bit, the Seattle Seahawks, what do you make of them this year?

Speaker 1 I think Sam Darnold out there, I'm very curious how he looks. Obviously, he played great last year, earned himself a contract with the Seahawks.
Maybe

Speaker 1 we're biased because they're so far out there. We don't talk about them as much.
But what do you think of the Seahawks this year?

Speaker 5 I really like what I've seen. And again, I'm trying to not contradict what I said earlier about not getting too overzealous here in the preseason.

Speaker 5 But man, like Kubiak, that system fits Sam Darnold perfectly. Sam looks confident and comfortable.
You can move him around. They upgraded that offensive line.

Speaker 5 Gray Zabel's probably been the best rookie in the preseason. If you just want to look at how they've played and what they've done,

Speaker 5 to put him along the interior of that offensive line, he can get up to the second level. He's going to help them have a firm pocket pass protection.
He's a really good player.

Speaker 5 So I love what they've done and they've got a lot of good young pieces on defense. They're fast.
So

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 5 I'm high on them. I think they got a good shot to win that division.

Speaker 2 What about that backfield? Who's going to be the starting back? I saw you make a comment about Charbonnet maybe being a better fit than Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 2 What do you see them leaning with that backfield?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, look, Kenneth Walker is explosive and talented, and

Speaker 5 he's a really good football player. I just think Charbonnet, with some of the stuff they're doing,

Speaker 5 I just think he sees it a little faster. He's a little bit better fit in that regard.
I think

Speaker 5 they're both going to get out there and play a ton.

Speaker 5 But I just was watching Charbonnet and I'm watching the system and

Speaker 5 where, you know, the creases are going to be different

Speaker 5 when you're running that stuff. And he's just got a really, really good feel when you're stretching it to sort and see it go.
So

Speaker 5 I was impressed with what I saw with him. We'll see how they divvy it up as we go throughout the year, but that's a good problem to have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, DJ, we saw some good ball last night in Monday Night Football. Tone Diggs has a few questions about that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, DJ, I feel like you are the man to ask. You would know more about this guy than others.
The rookie, what is it, Bill Krosky-Merritt? Watch Jakore Krosky-Merritt.

Speaker 3 I believe he was at UNLV for a year and then didn't play last year at Arizona, maybe.

Speaker 3 But the internet is a buzz with him, especially with the Brian Robinson Jr. trade rumors.
What's your scouting report on this guy?

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's tough, man. You go back, look, he went to the East-West Shrine game is where he kind of popped.
And so you go and watch him. He was healthy.
Like, kudos to him.

Speaker 5 He could have, you know, he gets hurt. He could have just said, I'm just going to wait and get to the, you know, get to a pro day and show that I'm healthy.

Speaker 5 But he went to the All-Star game and did a really nice job there. And he's had, you know, he tested well.
He ran well. So, you know,

Speaker 5 he's got some speed. He's a hard physical runner.

Speaker 5 I mean, he helped himself a ton late in the process. And then I, you know, I talked to Adam Peters maybe a weekend of training camp, just checking in with him.

Speaker 5 He's a San Francisco Giants fan, mostly making fun of him for how bad the San Francisco Giants are. But

Speaker 5 just asking about these young guys, and this was the first one that he mentioned, just how fired up and excited he was what he'd seen. So, man, they found themselves one.

Speaker 1 Why is he a late pick, DJ?

Speaker 5 Because he wasn't healthy. He just hadn't had a healthy whole process.
And it's a running back, and there's always a ton of running backs.

Speaker 1 And they don't value running backs anymore for some reason. We don't value it.

Speaker 5 No, I mean, I don't think it's much that. I just think that

Speaker 5 it's hard to evaluate running backs in college because it's such a space game, right? You know, so it's, there's so much space. You can have a lot of guys that are real productive.

Speaker 5 So when you're stacking up guys, like, okay, well, this guy missed a huge chunk of the year, doesn't have as much of a resume. You know, that kind of, that kind of dings him.

Speaker 1 All right, go ahead, Con Man. Yeah, DJ, team that values running backs is the team you kind of call every Sunday, the Chargers.
Kind of.

Speaker 1 What are the vibes out of Chargers camps? Obviously, you know, Slater goes down. It sucks.

Speaker 1 He's down for the year right after getting paid. But aside from that, kind of how is the mood, the vibe of the Chargers camp? And how's, you know, Trey Harris doing?

Speaker 1 I feel like we've heard a lot about Keondre Lambert Smith, the kid who kind of made a name early, and he's been the early wide receiver everyone's been talking about in camp.

Speaker 1 But what about Trey Harris? What about Hampton? How are the Chargers? going to be this year for you

Speaker 5 well look it's going to be fun last week in the preseason preseason, Trey Harris kind of had his coming out party.

Speaker 5 So it didn't have a lot of opportunities in the first two weeks, you know, in the Hall of Fame game and in that game against the Saints.

Speaker 5 But I think he had like, what, five for 85 or something like that and was showing kind of all the different things he can do.

Speaker 5 He can work in the middle of the field, had a nice toe tap on a deep ball from Trey Lance down the sideline.

Speaker 5 You know, someone who is a former quarterback in

Speaker 5 high school, he just, he sees everything really well.

Speaker 5 He's going to be a good, good player. Now, with Lambert Smith, he gives you more of the juice and the explosiveness, the big play stuff.

Speaker 5 I thought, you know, that game the other day, Quentin Johnson gets dinged early, and

Speaker 5 they put him right in. So he was in there with the ones, and Herbert hits him on a corner route.
So he's already got the trust of Justin Herbert, which is a good thing to have.

Speaker 5 So Hampton, he looks enormous. And we haven't had a chance to see him much in the preseason, but in practice,

Speaker 5 talking to all the coaches every week, they love him. So

Speaker 1 he's going to be running the rock for sure dj i don't want to put you on the spot too much here but is there a player or maybe a team that we're sleeping on that isn't getting the pub that you feel like they deserve that and maybe two three run two three months from now we're we're talking about a lot and they're like an everyday guy that we're talking about

Speaker 5 aj Oh, that is a great question.

Speaker 5 I was thinking like team-wise, and I'm not sucking up to the room, but I was thinking just looking over the rosters the other day, I was like, who are the most improved teams?

Speaker 5 New England was up there as one of the most improved teams.

Speaker 1 I thought he was going to say the Steelers. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 But I'll say this. I'll say this about Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 Pittsburgh is, that defense has a chance to be the best defense in the NFL.

Speaker 5 And the offensive line with all these young guys and Fatanu looks really, really good out there at right tackle.

Speaker 1 Rogers look at the tight end.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Rogers looked good. The tight end, when you have a bonus tackle as an extra tight end, I don't know what he's pushing weight-wise right now, but Donald Washington is a man child.

Speaker 1 Wait, DJ,

Speaker 3 did I see you tweet that he could be the next left tackle? Like he should be starting left.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 5 you can mark this clip.

Speaker 1 I'm in the same case.

Speaker 5 If in three years, he's not a, not only has made the conversion to tackle, but is a starting tackle, and I will say he's got a chance, a really good chance to be a Pro Bowl tackle.

Speaker 5 There's just not many guys that are that big that can move like that. And if I was his agent, I would be like,

Speaker 5 here's what, you know, the 15th best tight end in the NFL NFL makes. Here's what it is.
Now, here's what a top 10 offensive tackle makes in this league. Like, make the switch, dude.

Speaker 5 Your finances will thank you. I agree.

Speaker 1 DJ, what'd you think of Joe Burrow getting ragged on a few times last night? Would you be a fan of that if you were coaching that team? Are you the GM of the Bengals?

Speaker 5 I'm always on preseason.

Speaker 5 If you want to get some guys out there and get them going, I'm good with that. The quarterback's just different to me.
Like, I get you want to get out there and get a couple series, hand the ball off.

Speaker 5 You know, we want to throw a couple smoke screens out there just to, you know, get a little bit of a feel. But watching Joe Burrow drop back this many times in the preseason,

Speaker 5 I understand it. They haven't got off to good starts, and they're trying to rectify that, but I don't know that that's the right answer.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 1 Is Al Gohan going to be able to get that defense going? I know they've given up some explosive plays early in the preseason. They said they've looked much better in practice.
We know that.

Speaker 1 That does matter. But what's Al Gohan going to be able to do with this defense? Because we know Joe is most likely, he's going to beat Joe again.

Speaker 1 Their offense is going to put up points, but can the defense stop anybody?

Speaker 5 I think they'll get better. I think they have a lot of key young players that you'll see them improve.
And he's not just a scheme guy, he's a good developer of players.

Speaker 5 And I think that college background helps with that.

Speaker 5 So maybe that's why they're playing these offensive guys and playing Burrows so much in the preseason because, like, dude, until we get the defense up to speed, we've got to come out the gates humming.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, I think they'll get better. I don't think they're going to be great to start the season.
I think they're still going to be heavily relying on Burrow in this offense.

Speaker 5 But I don't know if you're a Bengals fan, if you can complain. Is there a more fun offense to watch on a weekly basis than what they've got right now?

Speaker 1 It is pretty awesome. You are right there.
But flip side, though, Washington, what about them? You think they take a step back? Are they able to continue what they've been doing?

Speaker 1 And Jaden's obviously unbelievable rookie season.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, Jaden's, you know, again, talking to folks there, everything's just somehow faster, which is hard to believe, as fast as he played last year and how he processed so well.

Speaker 5 That's gotten better. The offensive line's better.
I think the biggest improvement is in the secondary. You know, they've got some young, talented, good pieces in that secondary.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to be better there.

Speaker 5 Their challenge is just going to be: can their front stand up to Philly? You know, and

Speaker 5 that's who they got to get through to get where they want to go. So that's a little bit TBD for me.

Speaker 1 Yep, that is TBD. But Daniel, we appreciate you.
We look forward to you and Matt Money Smith on the call for what the Chargers all season.

Speaker 6 Dude, we'll be in Brazil, man.

Speaker 1 We're going to Brazil here for the what? Are you getting like a

Speaker 1 laydown seat, I hope, for that long flight?

Speaker 5 I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 5 I like Justin Herbert's chances for the lay down seat a lot more than the radio analysts' chances for that seat.

Speaker 5 We're hoping for an open seat. We're hoping for an open seat.
I think it's 12.

Speaker 1 Oh, maybe 12. You guys could, like, if you had an open seat and you have three, you and Matt Money Smith could lay like head to foot.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 Well, first of all, I don't understand.

Speaker 5 Money, as soon as we get on the plane, he's dead asleep.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, is it the noise cancelers?

Speaker 5 Is it the noise cancelers? And I'm like, I think there's something. I think there's a little more than the noise cancelers, bro.

Speaker 1 He's using some PEDs on there, huh? Test him, yeah. Although it's a test and went up to Brazil.

Speaker 5 That's not water in that cup. I mean, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 Nice. All right.
Hey, DJ, appreciate you, man. We look forward to everything you do this season.
We will definitely have you back on. But, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
Daniel Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Anything, Ty, anything he said surprised you, shock you by any of that? I guess he's kind of, you know, going with everything that's going on.

Speaker 1 Nothing is crazy jumping off the screen at him at like sleepers or sleeper teams or players. But you're right.
Like when I asked that Seattle question, I do think

Speaker 1 we have that weird bias. Because they're so far out there.
We don't see it. Even with the internet, I don't see Mike.
Because you don't see it.

Speaker 4 We don't. Maybe because we are here, you don't see any clips from them either.

Speaker 4 Nothing from the Seahawks ever really makes it into my algorithm.

Speaker 1 Do they like it? They might like it that way. And I don't think so.
They don't think about it quite right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they want people to talk about him for sure, but yeah, I don't get it when it comes to the Seattle. It's almost like when Christian McCaffrey was at Stanford.

Speaker 1 The guys unbelievable running for 300 yards a game, but a lot of times he's playing at 10 p.m. and 10 p.m.
Eastern and people don't see it. Yeah, I don't want the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 1 It's just different, though. I don't get it just because the Carter.
He was great. Saying everyone else should have known that tie.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. They won the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 4 I think a lot of people saw that.

Speaker 1 I hope so, but they don't think he got the pub he deserved. What were you saying, Con Man?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I was saying, like, yesterday we heard, you know, hey, Seattle's going to be good, and Arizona's going to be good. And guess what? The Niners are going to be good again.
And guess what?

Speaker 1 The Rams are going to be one of the best

Speaker 1 teams in the NFC. Like, hey, that's not how it works.

Speaker 1 So, if one of those teams is going to be bad, and I personally feel like I would look to Seattle, but to be that team.

Speaker 1 That's not going to be good. That versus the other ones.
Yeah, definitely. Because there's at least they have continuity

Speaker 1 in the other three places like hey darnold and cooper cup have never played a game together so i don't know how long we forget cooper cup is out there yeah we forget cooper cup bingo but again they lost locket they lost dk like they lost a bunch of guys bobo still but you're telling me that they're then yeah they got bobo and jsm but you're telling me that darnold who has only really been good with koc

Speaker 1 And it was last year, but that Darnold, and I think he did, and he's definitely much better than he was. But like, we don't know if Darnold's going to have the same year he did last year.

Speaker 1 It was the best year of his career. And, you know, he was in Minnesota.
Like, it is such a new building in Seattle for all those guys.

Speaker 1 That's why I don't understand the thought that, like, hey, Seattle's definitely going to be good. It's these other teams that we're not sure about.
I just don't see that.

Speaker 1 But then again, you know, Kenneth Walker, I feel like we all think is amazing. And Charbonnet is better than him now, obviously.

Speaker 1 So maybe they do have a bunch of unbelievable players as well that, you know, I'm just I'm a stupid idiot about. What about the Raiders? We see Tom Brady out there wearing sweet white pants.

Speaker 1 Is that what he's wearing now?

Speaker 1 With a white jacket. Just peacocking all over.
No, black pants, this sweet white jacket. He does wear the white pants as well.
Just peacocking all over. That jacket is awesome.
I do love it.

Speaker 1 But what are the Raiders this year?

Speaker 1 We know Aston G.

Speaker 1 That dude's going to run people over. We know he's going to be a stud.
They will lean heavily on him, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 Oh, that wasn't it.

Speaker 1 They should be better.

Speaker 3 You would think they're.

Speaker 1 What is that? How many wins is that, though?

Speaker 3 Their quarterback situation is vastly improved.

Speaker 1 I love how he falls.

Speaker 1 I love how he falls. Nine?

Speaker 1 I'm putting a nine.

Speaker 3 Are they better than the Broncos, Chiefs, or Chargers?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a problem. It's going to be top ticket than nine.

Speaker 2 I got faith in. I like Geno.
You got to clean up the rest of the rest of the rejection. You got to clean up the red zone picks.
I love Genti. You got to see it, obviously, on this level.

Speaker 2 But Brock Bowers

Speaker 2 is arguably could be, you know, some people would say the best titan in the league already going into year two. So that was a great, you know, safety blanket to have.

Speaker 2 You got, you know, some decent weapons outside. The question is obviously going to be the offensive line.
Can they protect Geno and kind of prevent him from making some of those big-time mistakes?

Speaker 2 But I do like the Raiders' defense, big question marks as well. So yeah, maybe nine is a little high with that division.
But I definitely think they are better.

Speaker 2 Pete Carroll, you know, he wins everywhere. He goes.
The culture knows. The culture will be much different.

Speaker 2 with obviously him there and then Tom Breen, being more hands-on, being in practice, being around the building. As the season goes on, him traveling, doing his thing in the booth, it won't be as much.

Speaker 2 But I'm a little higher on the Raiders than I have been in a while.

Speaker 3 Was Aiden O'Connell their day one star last year? Am I wrong on that?

Speaker 1 Was it Gardner? I think it was Gardner and

Speaker 3 they're in a much better spot at that position. And normally, when you're in a much better spot at that position, you will improve.

Speaker 1 And they have that other rookie receiver that everyone's loving. Six and a half.
Dante Thornton.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yes, out of Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Man, team win to, they got the Browns at the lowest, four and a half of the team win totals over under. That seems fair.
Does that seem low or high to you?

Speaker 1 A little low.

Speaker 1 You think four and a half wins is high? I would say high just because look at what they did. Didn't Joe Flacco just get named starter?

Speaker 1 Yeah. They got some talent on that defense for sure.
They got some studs on the offense as well.

Speaker 3 I think they're better than the Saints, but the division, the

Speaker 3 AFC as a whole, I believe, is harder. And the AFC North is much harder than the NFC South, you would think.

Speaker 1 There were like six teams who didn't win four games. Are people sleeping on the Saints? Four and a half games.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. They're a team that people people definitely do not have a lot of positive, high hopes for, at least right now, this moment.
Quarterback position. Quarterback.

Speaker 1 You got to figure that out. And Chuck's going to be the guy.
That was a DJ said.

Speaker 3 I like his thought process on

Speaker 3 figuring out if he's going to be your guy or not, because it is supposed to be a better quarterback draft.

Speaker 1 Kellen Moore, what a test coming in year one, first-time head coach. I think he probably figured a quarterback out.

Speaker 3 Who Rattler is?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think it's Rattler's a dynamic athlete, honestly.
I know that. He's got a gun.

Speaker 3 Listen, he carried South Carolina his senior year, and he came in.

Speaker 3 He played decent last year, but yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 With that number two on it.

Speaker 1 Different rattlers. I don't know.

Speaker 1 He does have some Aaron. Aaron Brooks in him.

Speaker 1 Oh, Aaron Brooks has been doing it for New Orleans for a while. I mean, when you don't have your quarterback,

Speaker 1 have they talked about it? Is Kellen Moore going to name a starter before the first game?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 they're just going to roll someone out with a clown nose on. Why not?

Speaker 1 Why give the other team any information?

Speaker 3 I think they're doing like a magic curtain. Well, let's ask you.

Speaker 3 We didn't know if Ohio State was going to name a starter before. They did, right? They did.
So why did they?

Speaker 1 It's a good question. I mean, because the coach isn't like, it doesn't matter who's the quarterback.
It's not like we're choosing between

Speaker 1 Drew Buedso and Michael Vick. Like, that's a drastic change in how they play the game of football.
You're right.

Speaker 1 Now, these guys, I mean, Julian Sane and Keenholes, they are actually both very athletic. They can really run with the ball, and they want their different size guys.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Sane's a little shorter, very shifty, and has a super quick release, which people love talking about. I like it.
I like the name.

Speaker 3 I saw someone quote tweet this of the Ohio State fuck guys announced.

Speaker 1 Did you see it doing that?

Speaker 3 Said, don't even touch the gas of this Ferrari, man. You just put your hands on the wheel and you keep that wheel straight.
Because basically, the rest of the Ohio State offense is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 It's just like, hey, man, you just get number one the ball, or sorry, number four the ball, and then just get out.

Speaker 2 Did you show up to his signing?

Speaker 1 Did you take your cues out there to digest for goods?

Speaker 1 I saw the

Speaker 1 video of Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 1 Whoever put the video out said, I've never seen like any hoopla for a college athlete like they have for Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 2 That was, it was, it was crazy. Just a bitch.
I assume that's your that's your dick sporting goods.

Speaker 1 It's not too far, yeah. Yeah, we go to that one a lot.
Yeah, he uh, he stayed, he didn't stay in sign for all, he'd still be there if he's still signing for all those people who were taking pictures.

Speaker 1 He's absurd, college kids. That kid's got to go to class still for two more years.
Since I mean, I don't know how you can. I mean, we got video right here.
Wait, thanks for pulling this up, fellas.

Speaker 1 I mean, look at this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is this is wild.

Speaker 1 This is next level.

Speaker 3 Yeah, is he the biggest thing in columbus since

Speaker 1 what i don't know you tell me eddie george i don't know like it's a different time because

Speaker 1 that far back no there's still monsters like every time there's always

Speaker 1 very very but i'm thinking yeah maurice i came in the same draft uh recruiting class as Maurice Clorette. I mean, his first game he ever played in the shoe, they're chanting his name, Maurice.

Speaker 1 Like, it was a special situation just to be there to watch that, seeing him do that. But Jeremiah Smith, he's kind of changed everything.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know, he's in this era too with social media, with all this stuff, even though

Speaker 1 he's not out there.

Speaker 4 He dominated the entire playoffs. Like, if you were what, you know, he was a guy you could count on every single game.

Speaker 1 What game? Was it a Texas game? He didn't have big, he didn't have a ton of games. He's still bothered by that.
He's still really pissed off of that.

Speaker 4 And they kind of just used him as a decoy the entire game. But, like, every game, every other game we went to is like before the game we were talking, and it was like guaranteed.

Speaker 4 It's like he's going to have at least 100 yards and one or two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 That Oregon game? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right away. And And he did.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 he's unreal.

Speaker 1 He's unreal.

Speaker 3 He had 103, 187, three against Texas, which definitely bothered him. Yep.
And then the five for 88 and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 But they're replacing coordinators as well, offensive and defensive coordinator. High state has two.
Yeah. So, yeah, that is definitely a thing.
And Chip Kelly, he's gone. He's with the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Knowles went over to Penn State. Yeah, drawing the enemy.
Maddie P. Patricia came in.
People are loving him. Early reports, they love that guy.
Really, Maddie P.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Maddie P's been great.
There's a couple mic-ups they have of him. He was great as a D.C.
Always great as a D.C. He seems to be

Speaker 1 having fun. Kind of.
Yeah, he seems to be having fun, though. He was an offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots.
Yeah, do you remember? Yeah, I mean, has he talked much about that?

Speaker 1 Honestly, I would love to know what that year was like. I don't think he really has.
I'm assuming it was just kind of like a, hey, Bill told me what to do, so I did.

Speaker 1 Situation. But

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 Matt Patricia, oh, shit, no, I forgot what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 Either way, it's got to make you a better coach, though. If you're a defensive coach and you coach offense for a year, you realize, like, okay, what do I hate to see?

Speaker 1 Like, I would question guys on the offense, like the center, the guards, whoever, what do you guys hate that certain linebackers or D-line does? What do you not like?

Speaker 1 And they all have double A-gap pressure, and they all hate that, especially if you mess with them the whole game.

Speaker 1 I mean, you would do if you want to mess with their calls. That's me or Matt.

Speaker 2 I'm mugging up the A-gaps. You got to figure out protection.

Speaker 1 That's true. You don't even do anything else with me.
You got to figure out your front. Shouldn't you do that when you, like, if you're going against a rookie quarterback, a real experienced guy?

Speaker 1 Hey, look,

Speaker 1 our base defense starts with double A gap. We're lined up mugged in the A gap.

Speaker 1 You never know.

Speaker 2 Before you even look at the safety, you got problems right in your face. You got to figure that out.

Speaker 3 That's where Dick LeBo lived.

Speaker 1 Boom. There we go.
Jeez. Thrive.
What a time. Football's right around the corner, isn't it? We're here.
How many days?

Speaker 1 16 days. Yeah, we're very, very close.
Three days. 16 days.
How is football this week? Saturday. Man, what a great time of year it is right now.
So excited. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 We got it all day long starting with Iowa State and Kansas State in Ireland.

Speaker 3 We were there last year, what, basically in two days. We were there for 36 hours, had the time of our lives.

Speaker 3 That was for Florida State and Georgia Tech, which kicked off the wildest season of all time for Florida State, potentially. But yeah, not a bad little slate on Saturday.

Speaker 3 Starting with that one in Ireland and finishing in Hawaii with Stanford at Hawaii. Who's favored over an ACC Power 4 School?

Speaker 1 Yeah, just the thought that we are going to be able to turn the TV on and from noon to... Football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, midnight. There's football.
It truly, you know, it does really pull at your heartstrings. It does pull it.
It makes you emotional. It makes you emotional.
You think about how long it's been and

Speaker 1 how many other sports we've had to watch just to get back to

Speaker 1 football. It's probably stupid.
And then Texas

Speaker 1 put together. Oh, my God.
And then Texas is in the shoe.

Speaker 3 A week after that, you're going to be there?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I should be, man. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 That whole first week, there's a lot of games you can do. You're carrying out the flag.
Nah, I'm not going to do that. Leave that to the professionals to the band and everyone else.

Speaker 1 But like LSU clumson can't wait crazy there's so many i mean even nebraska cincinnati is gonna thursday night the you know your game i want to see what colorado is like post-shadure north carolina finally

Speaker 1 yeah bill's coach coaching monday night game too yeah yeah

Speaker 1 you're opening up with tcu i almost forgot about that one yeah what what does the bill belich led

Speaker 1 North Carolina football team look like I did see he had him mic'd up as well I watched it too you see that yeah hey I like it bills coaching the boys up it was still still you know same thing thing.

Speaker 2 Throwback same Bill. It seemed like

Speaker 2 the same Bill. And just looking at, you know, you didn't see the players for too long in the frame, but looks like he got some big boys out there.
What?

Speaker 2 He put together a squad. How many, what, 70 new players?

Speaker 1 70 new players. Yeah,

Speaker 3 I know they are GM's so well. Okay.
Let's just get that out there.

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 1 Michael Lombardi.

Speaker 3 Yes, Michael Lombardi, probably the best GM in college football, and they're going to be coached well. But 70 new players is a lot of, it's a lot.
That's a lot of new players.

Speaker 1 I mean, it reeks of Indiana. That's what Indiana.

Speaker 1 We've We've seen this work before.

Speaker 1 Sig and Bill are similar. Yeah, if it worked with Sig, they are old school guys.
You would think, like, hey, maybe if Bill does bring in the right guys.

Speaker 1 Now, I'm not saying Ken Canada is going to be under center for the North Carolina Tarios, okay? But.

Speaker 2 Who is going to be under center?

Speaker 1 The kid from South Alabama, the mobile quarterback. Bill Lopez.
Yeah, that they love. So who knows?

Speaker 1 And this is kind of why NIL is cool.

Speaker 1 Because you can bring in Bill Belichick, and Bill Belichick might be in the college football playoff this year, which is what I'm hoping, but also expecting it to take a couple years here.

Speaker 1 Okay, just like West Virginia. It might take a little bit, and we have to be mentally prepared for those things, Joe.

Speaker 3 Maybe, or they're both in the college football player. They're both great.

Speaker 3 But one thing that just came out, I think like 10 minutes ago, that Miami and Notre Dame game, which is a top 10, two top 10 teams, Notre Dame just announced their starting quarterback who's going to be

Speaker 3 CJ Carr, who we thought was going to be all summer long, but then his name's Minchy pushed him later on.

Speaker 3 Who was on?

Speaker 3 Shreg, or no. Thammel talked about the difference in offensive style,

Speaker 3 CJ Carr being more of a pocket passer, so that's who they're going to go with down in Miami.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't wait. But Debut, that got me thinking, Bill Belichick.
How do you, okay. Did Bill ever give like pre-game talk in the locker room? Did he ever get juiced up?

Speaker 1 We're like, oh, okay, I never really saw that out of Bill. Like, pretty emotional.
He got us for maybe a big game or maybe he was pissed off before a game.

Speaker 1 How did those go like right before you went out?

Speaker 2 He never got too animated. It was just about the details.
And we would have something we never did. I never did any other team.

Speaker 2 Even on Sundays before games, we would kind of come together as a team and have a quick team meeting to just kind of finally, you know,

Speaker 2 Sunday morning. Yeah, go over final checkpoints, maybe change something up.

Speaker 1 So for an away game, I'm just thinking logistically, like say you play a one o'clock away game, would you do that Sunday morning? No. Because the whole team is really never together.

Speaker 1 Like on away games, there's a first bus, second bus, all that. No,

Speaker 2 I don't remember on away games, but we would get kind of like the final run-through, kind of what was going to happen that day, either for us or for the other team.

Speaker 2 Hey, expect some tempo early, expect this or do this or do that. So it was always preparation with Bill.
And more than anything, more important was the gotta have it moments. So the two-minute...

Speaker 2 plays what are their favorite two-minute plays the two-point plays the fourth down plays which um is those are much more prevalent now but back when we were playing like you know guys didn't go for it on fourth down that much people didn't go you know have you you know, all these extra two-point conversions.

Speaker 2 But I felt like we were more prepared than everyone else.

Speaker 2 So the preparation of watching that mic'd up, hearing him just go over, because, you know, football, the more it changes, the more it kind of stays the same.

Speaker 2 But fundamentally, if you can block, you can tackle, you have leverage, you know what your help is, you communicate, like those different things. And, you know, and just have fun.

Speaker 2 He would always emphasize, you know, having fun with your teammates. Really? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He would tell you that fun.

Speaker 2 The big thing with Bill was, you know, celebrate with your teammates.

Speaker 2 Like, if a big play would happen, like, we want to see that juice, we want to see that emotion, not only for the impact it has on your teammates, but the impact it has on your opponents and i can remember being an opponent and you know being in fox bro and they go up you know four touchdowns and tom birdie spiking the ball and running up and jumping on gronk like he like they just you know went up in a close game so um all those little things i'm sure he'll still emphasize and drive home but i am still interested to see because those are grown men and now you're dealing with you know grown men but much much younger men so it'd be very interesting especially with 70 new guys coming to the team because now it's new for everyone but he if you want a guy set in your culture Bill Belichick is probably probably one of those guys right at the top of your board to your point about like the young men I feel like that's what's kind of changed now is that it's easier to deal with them you know we've taught to these kids and now like grown up it feels like they already yeah that they're already they're pros like 16 years old yeah exactly like they're they're already kind of they kind of understand the game at least when it comes now not all cases of course there are kind of the outliers i mean and and not as if it's his fault or whose fault is it is kind of still up in the air but like nico Iyamaliava, where it's like, hey, turns into kind of a problem, but still very polished.

Speaker 1 You still don't really hear anything, at least from his mouth, of Nico burying anybody.

Speaker 1 So you would think, too, that if Bill has success or even, you know, has a large lot of, you know, enjoyment or things of that nature, that more guys will, you know, look to jump back down.

Speaker 1 Because like, let's say him, and then let's say maybe like Gruden after this season, because Gruden said that he wants wants to coach in college.

Speaker 1 Like all of a sudden it might start being just a draw to go back down to the college and then vice versa where it's like, hey, Jeff Hafleys of the world who are at these like now feeder schools to the massive D1 schools, like, all right, this sucks.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to go be a coordinator. And it just, you know, kind of swaps, but it'll probably help everything because then the guys in college understand the NFL business more.

Speaker 1 And then the NFL guys also who, you know, want to be headball coaches can go back down to college and kind of get them, you know, even more ready for the pros yeah i just i wonder for bill belichick diva i'd be interested like what you think can college guys how much is two information like we all know they say like if guy lines up pre-snap and you hear a coach in the sideline yell like alert five different things alert screen alert draw alert to post alert nine seven three alert like 15 different all right alert everything pal like i wonder how much bill like he's probably learning to how much i can give these dudes because it's like leading up to a game you can't give them a packet 30 pages long and say, Here's their

Speaker 1 favorite things to do, guys. Like, no, like you need both.
These guys got class, yeah, they got class, they got things to do. Like, they're not, they see that, they might just tune out right away.

Speaker 1 But how do you know exactly how much they can handle? That's something I think the coaching staff has to learn throughout the season, too. Yeah, what these guys can do.

Speaker 1 Hey, don't put too much on them, or hey, maybe they can handle a little more than we think.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, once again, I'm gonna trust Bill to figure that out and know when he has to simplify things and when he has to, you know, when he can complicate it.

Speaker 2 But the thing about it, going into into a game, playing for Bill, you never, ever, ever felt unprepared. You never felt like that the other team caught you off guard.
Like you were always prepared.

Speaker 1 And you're like, hey, if they come out and empty, we're going to be able to get out of here. Yeah, we're empty changes.
We got empty answers.

Speaker 2 We got hurry-up answers. Like, we have the answers.
It's just going to come down to execution. So it was never a super complicated thing.

Speaker 2 The only thing that was complicated there more than anywhere else is every week, and I don't know how you can do this on a college level, but every week it was, it's kind of going to be a new game plan.

Speaker 2 Like when you play most places, places, you kind of knew who you are. You know, week eight, week now, okay, we this is where you know, we're a quarters team.

Speaker 2 We're going to come out, we're going to mix in some pressure. We'll have some funky third down stuff else.
But like Bill, you know, some week it may be a three-four front.

Speaker 2 Maybe this week, two weeks down the line, we may switch it up and run some more 4-3 or have some

Speaker 2 loud because people have one guy, but we may have Kyle Arrington just come and just blitz off the edge like, you know, nine times this game because of what they like to do with sprint right option on certain plays.

Speaker 2 So it was so game plan specific. And that's the only thing, that's the biggest suggestion I think going from the pros to the colleges.
Once again, how much can they handle?

Speaker 2 Because they do have other things. Like when you're professional, this is your livelihood.
This is what you're doing.

Speaker 1 And that's still really difficult. And it's really, other teams don't do that.
It's still kind of like your kind of base stuff is what they're based on.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I assume most coaches aren't comfortable with that. Like most coaches are like, I know how to call a 4-3.

Speaker 1 Teaching a new thing. I don't know how to call a 4-3.

Speaker 3 And so the coach has to be insanely.

Speaker 2 But when you're on a Belichick staff, agreed. That's why I agree.

Speaker 2 He always had very, like, even Maddie P, like, what was like an MIT guy or something?

Speaker 2 Josh Foyer, who I think is in Columbus now, too. He was like,

Speaker 2 he came from like King's College or something. He was a DB coach.
So it's always a mixed bag with Bill. You never knew it was coming as a coach.

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Speaker 1 It's what we've been talking about. We really have.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you, Daniel Jermeyer, in the first half.
First part of this show, we really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 We have Adam Schefter's going to join us here in a few moments, followed by Marty Smith here. We're excited for hour two, but we were just talking off air a little bit.

Speaker 1 Ty Schmidt, there's been some news. I know you are on the Adam Schefter podcast.
You are a co-host. Correct.

Speaker 1 Co-host. Well, I host Spack.

Speaker 4 I host the weekly six-pack.

Speaker 1 There we go. The weekly six-pack.
What were you saying? The six-pack assumptions. Adam Schefter was talking about Micah Parsons and the situation with the Cowboys.
What was he saying earlier today?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he pretty much said that he thinks Micah and the Cowboys are headed for like an ugly divorce and that he doesn't know if it means that he will be traded before the start of this year or if he'll play for the Cowboys this year and then be traded like after the season.

Speaker 4 But he made it sound like everything that he's hearing based on like Micah putting out the post saying he's ready to be traded. He wants to move out for move on from Dallas.

Speaker 4 He thinks that really pissed off the Cowboys. And then same thing, like the Cowboys kind of publicly burying him and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 He basically said that they haven't resumed talks or talked about an extension or anything like that in a very long time and and he thinks it's he thinks it's pretty much over with and now it's just a matter of when when that's going to be i mean that's big news if that that we will ask shifty here when he get joins us in a few moments but have we ever seen jerry move on from someone like oh of mike micah's caliber that he drafted like hey we we draft this guy he's developed here and he is a cornerstone of this franchise

Speaker 1 obviously premier pass rusher in all of the nfl quincy carter has he gotten rid of any of these let any of these guys walk?

Speaker 1 I just can't imagine a place where Jerry Jones lets somebody like Micah walk, no matter how bad it gets.

Speaker 1 It's not on like a Micah level, but that Randy Gregory thing just happened where, you know, they were going to sign him, and then

Speaker 1 there was some money situation, and then he basically just said, you know, screw the Cowboys and went to Denver. And then, you know, Denver went how it went, and he got released from there.

Speaker 1 But I don't think so to the Micah Parsons level. Like,

Speaker 1 not even close.

Speaker 3 Usually this is, like, I honestly threw this when it started into the category of like tj watt like oh this is gonna get done jerry's just gonna drag this out and then they're gonna give micah a ton of money i think most of us were insanely shocked uh if we didn't already know when we learned that he was playing on his fifth year fifth year rookie option without a new contract because that that never like Jamar Chase got one after his third, right?

Speaker 3 Like, and then a lot of guys get it

Speaker 3 after their fourth, but like, Micah is, is in that ilk if you will of those players in that draft class and how he's played i mean he's been he's been top five of defensive mvp basically every single first season

Speaker 2 wherever you can line up wherever you want he played off the ball linebacker in college like and he's one of the best outside rushers on the planet but he also can you can put him wherever you like he's so difficult to block yeah you look at pieces that you know you put value marks on like quarterback you start there and then pass rusher is usually the next piece and he's been at an elite level so you asked a question about you know has jerry ever um moved on from a player at this point i'm gonna go out of the limit say no just like everybody else just because number one there aren't many people on that list who would be what micah parsons been since stepping into the league and then you know number two pass rushers you know they never you know become available not not guys like this so um this is this is wild even even more than i thought I was more confident in this deal getting done even more than TJ Watt because of just TJ Watt being 30, 31 years old, this guy being in his prime.

Speaker 2 Like, you thought this was a no-brainer.

Speaker 3 So this is crazy. Micah, since being in the league, he has had 13, 13 and a half, 14 and 12 sacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's pretty good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's pretty good production.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable. And now, if that, like, I'm interested to see what Schefter says, but it will be crazy to see the haul for Micah Parsons and the contract, you know, both, sure.

Speaker 1 Both parts of the deal. And then this also becomes one of those situations where you got to have to, you know, it's a three-team agreement, and one of of those teams is Micah, right?

Speaker 1 You know, this is almost, is it to the point of like Brandon Ayuk, you know, last offseason where

Speaker 1 the teams were reaching out to the Niners and they agreed to terms, but then, you know, Ayuk would say no. Like, do they have to do that with Micah here? Or how is it? Rookie deal.

Speaker 1 I'd be honest, rookie deal.

Speaker 3 Before you trade for him, I would assume there's going to be some assurances that he will sign a long-term deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 But like, okay, let's say the Cowboys, but we're hearing that he could possibly play this year and then maybe trade him like how when does micah come back like what what makes him come back well i don't know because i think i think that was practicing i think that was the assumption too though is like you know all this stuff yeah you hear all this but like if the cowboys go out and they do end up meet meeting again and he becomes the highest paid player or highest defensive player in nfl history like that's kind of a good way to bury a lot of ill will but i i i from the sounds of it from what sheter's saying like there have been no attempts even for them to talk so like i think he's kind of done with them.

Speaker 4 I think they're maybe kind of done with him, but him more so than anyone else. Like, now, if he were to get traded in, comes in, like, well, would they even trade this guy to a team in the NFC?

Speaker 4 Because, like, I don't know if you'd be able to stomach playing it, be, you know, the Cowboys being in the playoffs, and you're, you got Micah Parsons on the other side, and he ruins, like, you know, so then that comes into, and then, like you said, like, you're going to have to pay this guy a bunch of money.

Speaker 4 I don't know. There's, there's so many questions that come with it.
And I think everyone just assumed, like, hey, this is all bullshit.

Speaker 4 At the end of the day, he's going to get a massive deal, and he's going to be a cowboy for the rest of his career. But it sounds like that might not be the case.
Yeah, and that's right.

Speaker 1 It doesn't make sense just because,

Speaker 1 let alone how good he is, but like what he means to the team. I forget if it was you, D-Bud, or Tony, or who said it yesterday.

Speaker 1 It might have been Utah about him playing hurt at the end of the season, too. It's like, hey, that is a big thing, I'm sure, in the locker room.
Like,

Speaker 1 I'm assuming, you know, of course, he liked Mike McCarthy, but I'm assuming the next shoddy and the next defensive staff, and everybody, they want him there just because of what he means to the other guys in the locker room.

Speaker 1 Like, Trevon Diggs isn't as good as Trevon Diggs is without Michael Parsons. I mean, you and Harry Douglas talked about that yesterday.

Speaker 1 You know, it's one of those things where if you let this guy leave, you will probably regret it for five years because of how good he'll be somewhere else and of how it'll affect, you know, the other players on your team.

Speaker 1 Like, I'd be interested to go back and look at like Deron Bland's pick sixes during the season he broke the record and how many Micah Parsons is

Speaker 1 about to get a sack. Like it's crazy, I'm sure.
Well, we're going to get to the bottom of it right here. Let's go to the source right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Mr. Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 What's up, Shifty?

Speaker 6 What's going on, guys? That was all Ty. Ty said everything about Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 That was nothing.

Speaker 1 That was not. Okay, so what are you hearing then? Other than what Ty said, what are you hearing about this Micah Parsons situation, Shefty? Well, look, I also want to prep

Speaker 6 by saying these things always can change, and situations often change at the end of August and September. It changed for CeeDee Lamb last year.
It changed for Dak Prescott last year.

Speaker 6 This one doesn't feel that way. It doesn't feel that way today.
That doesn't mean it can't change.

Speaker 6 But the way that it's tracking, it feels more likely that these sides are headed for a divorce today than they would be for a new deal.

Speaker 6 Now, I don't know that it'll play out that way, but that is what I see when I look at Democratic Democrats of Ball. Now, I don't know whether that means there will be a trade now or after the season.

Speaker 6 I think the most likely scenario would be that he's there this year, his contract expires, they franchise tag him, and then after they franchise tag him, then they have the ability to go and try and trade him.

Speaker 6 But there's a lot that has to play out here. It's unsettled.

Speaker 1 And all we

Speaker 1 know.

Speaker 6 is that there are, I think, hurt feelings on both sides. There have been zero contract negotiations, discussions since late March, early April.
They haven't come close to a new deal.

Speaker 6 The players demanded a trade. Like I said, it just feels different than Dak Prescott and C.D.
Lamb. And we'll see if they change that here in the last two weeks.
But that's not what it feels today.

Speaker 1 Chef,

Speaker 1 the Cowboys knew this was coming, though, right? They knew they've seen what Micah Parsons has done for this team. They knew they were going to have to pay him.

Speaker 1 Why is there no, like going back to March, you're saying, how is there not much communication with this?

Speaker 6 I mean, I think if we just frack and follow everything that's been said and done publicly, you can piece together the pieces of the puzzle and come up with the situation. Jerry and Micah were meeting.

Speaker 6 Jerry thought

Speaker 5 he had the framework of a deal

Speaker 6 done with Micah. Micah did not feel that way.
Micah never saw a contract, never saw a piece of paper. Nothing was put down on paper.

Speaker 6 Jerry Jones himself has said this summer, when I bought the Dallas Cowboys for whatever he paid, $135, $150 million,

Speaker 6 he did it as he said, on a handshake agreement. I think Jerry felt like there was a handshake agreement with Micah when his agent, David Mulgetta, was not involved.

Speaker 6 Micah came out after the owner's meetings and said, any deal that that gets done will include my agent, David Mulgetta. They have not had any talk since then.

Speaker 5 None.

Speaker 6 I think the Cowboys were upset that Micah didn't move forward with them. I think Micah wasn't happy that they didn't feel comfortable or try to get the deal done with his agent.

Speaker 6 In the interim, we've seen...

Speaker 6 Max Crosby get paid. We've seen Miles Garrett get paid.
We've seen Daniel Hunter get paid. We've seen TJ Watt get paid.

Speaker 6 We've seen all these pass rushers get paid at a time where they're not even talking to Micah about a new contract.

Speaker 6 And then Micah issued a lengthy statement a couple of Fridays ago requesting a trade from the Dallas Cowboys, in which he laid out the whole situation that we're talking about here. It's all there.

Speaker 6 It's all there.

Speaker 1 Just read it.

Speaker 6 Okay, so all we're doing is talking about everything that's transpired, interpreting it, and putting it into its proper context today. In negotiations, things change.

Speaker 6 All of a sudden, talks restart. AJ, you've been around the league a long time.

Speaker 6 There have been any number of strained negotiations that all of a sudden got done at the end of August, right before the start of the season.

Speaker 6 My point is, and I could be wrong, I don't see this one going that way. I see this one going in a different direction.
I see this one today

Speaker 6 ended to a divorce, whether that's after the season, whether they franchise him once, twice, whatever it may be. That's where it feels like it's going.

Speaker 6 And it's up to both sides to change that narrative and get some talks done and go from there. And we'll see if they can do that.
That's great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we know money can change a lot if Jerry comes to the table and offers what they're looking for. But I wanted to pivot quickly.
Daniel Jones, just named starter of the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 Was this something you expected? The timing? Did you expect Daniel Jones to be named a starter? And what are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 6 Well, I think from the moment Daniel Jones signed with Indianapolis, I thought he had a clear-cut advantage. Again, let's follow the money.

Speaker 6 The Indianapolis Colts went out of their way to go sign Daniel Jones. They paid him, I believe, $14 million

Speaker 6 this season, which is less than a starter, but that is way more than a backup.

Speaker 6 And it's more than the Pittsburgh Steels are paying Aaron Rodgers, which gives you an idea of how much Indianapolis wanted.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Chefty, we might have to get you back. Call you back.
Cito's going to get you back. We're going to have to call you back there, Chefty.
I don't know. I mean, what is it?

Speaker 1 But the Micah situation, though,

Speaker 1 how does Micah, so all of a sudden he's just going to dress and go practice? That's what does make game week one? Like, what is that?

Speaker 2 Just because he don't want to get fine, or he planned on a one-year deal, too. He's playing on the fifth-year option.
Like, it's just crazy. Like, how do we get that? It's got to get done.

Speaker 1 It has to get done, right?

Speaker 2 I mean, you would think, but for Sheffield to be saying it's heading towards a divorce.

Speaker 1 Yeah. For Sheffield to be that strongly.
Yeah, that's pretty

Speaker 1 huge.

Speaker 4 And that's what makes no sense is if that's the plan after the season. Like, do you think you're going to win the Super Bowl this year if he plays? Like, why don't you just trade him?

Speaker 1 Why don't you just trade him right now?

Speaker 4 And while his value is the highest, because

Speaker 4 what if he plays this year and gets hurt in week 14? Then it's like your return might not be the same as what you would get right now.

Speaker 4 Like, so yeah, that, because otherwise, I mean, we know how this goes, especially with the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 Like, you're telling me this is just going to hang over the team the entire season and it's not going to be a big deal. And we're never going to talk about it again until he gets traded.

Speaker 4 Like, no, like, this will hang over the team the entire year. It'll be a huge issue.
And we've seen that story play out a hundred times before in Dallas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have Sheffield. I believe we got you you back.
I'm sure we've got a little better connection there.

Speaker 1 As far as Micah goes, does all of a sudden, if let's say they don't work out anything, he doesn't get traded, come week one, he just dresses and he plays or what?

Speaker 6 Well, that's the other part of this, right? I mean, we have Jerry Jones himself saying that he doesn't know that Micah is going to be playing in week one. Micah still hasn't practiced.

Speaker 6 He's got backtightness all summer long. Okay, so there are all these things that are just out there.

Speaker 6 And until the two sides sides squash it in one way, which they may or may not, that's why I believe it's headed the wrong way.

Speaker 5 That's my interpretation of it.

Speaker 6 That's based on conversations I've had. So we'll see.

Speaker 6 If all of a sudden they can get together and make Mike is back right and get a deal done and he's playing and live happily ever after, then that's great for them.

Speaker 6 But it doesn't feel like that's going to be the case.

Speaker 2 All right, let's say, Shefty, this divorce does happen, like you're alluding to. Who are some of the real players out there that are in position to make a real move for Micah, a real aggressive move?

Speaker 2 I would assume it'll take multiple firsts at this point, probably. But

Speaker 2 what team do you have in mind?

Speaker 2 Based on the teams that you may be spoken about, and what do they think about what's going on in Dallas? But what teams do you have in mind that are real players in this situation for Micah?

Speaker 6 Well, Darius, I would say every team in the league would have.

Speaker 6 You know, I want to be very clear. I don't know that it's going to happen now.
I don't think it's going to happen now. Okay.

Speaker 6 I think there's still a lot of X left in this play that have to play out before we get to the spot where Dallas is trading Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 Again, could it happen?

Speaker 6 It could. I don't think that's the likely scenario.
Just like I don't think the two sides coming together for a contract extension is also a likely scenario.

Speaker 6 I think to me today, it feels like they're going to kind of put up with each other this year. And then the Cowboys would have the franchise tag, and then they would put the franchise tag on them.

Speaker 6 And then all of a sudden, next offseason would be the offseason of the micah trade. I think that that one of all the scenarios feels to be the most logical today.
Now, we'll see if something changes.

Speaker 6 It certainly can. That's part of the deal where we're on August 19th.
There's still two weeks, but the Cowboys open their season two weeks from Thursday night. Micah still hasn't practiced yet.

Speaker 6 So I would say to AJ, as a linebacker, Darius, you tell me, how would you feel about not practicing all summer?

Speaker 6 And how effective and how much do you think you could play in an opening game where you haven't really practiced all summer?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'd want to get a couple reps in, not going to lie. I want to get my body conditioned a little bit, but Michael, we know, is an absolute physical freak.

Speaker 1 He can run all day long. He can bend and turn the corner like nobody else on the planet.
And he's super powerful. So especially as an outside rusher, you could throw that dude in.

Speaker 1 I mean, even if he plays half the snaps, he still might get four sacks and cause two fumbles so he could do it we saw it with um nick bosa right nick bosa he kind of started

Speaker 6 jamar jamar chase did it last year too yeah and he had a triple crown it can be done it's just not ideal but again let's see what they can get done in the next two weeks if anything i don't think they're going to get a contract done i could be wrong that's my guess has jerry have we ever seen has jerry ever drafted a guy that at micah's caliber we know the guy's on a different stratosphere than most people.

Speaker 1 Like he's an absolute superstar and let that guy walk and not resign him? Have we ever seen Jerry do this before?

Speaker 6 Well, they're not going to let him walk together.

Speaker 1 But trade him. I'm saying

Speaker 1 not give him a second deal. Like that second deal.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 6 the only other one that I could think of that they traded away, the one player that they traded away,

Speaker 6 there was a cornerback, Thomas Everett, a defensive back that they traded to the Buccaneers right after his Pro Bowl season. They traded Herschel Walker at midseason

Speaker 6 at the beginning of Jerry's ownership for obviously a haul of picks that remade the franchise.

Speaker 6 And if they ever got into a situation where they were, in fact, trading Michael, which again, I just think becomes more and more likely if this offseason continues the way it's gone, then it would be another haul of picks that I would think would be comparable to what the Raiders once got back from the Chicago Bears for Khalil Mack.

Speaker 1 Okay. Go ahead, Conrad.
Yeah, Schefter, you kind of broke up after the Danny Dimes question, but going back to that, what was kind of the route to Danny Dimes?

Speaker 1 Steichen mentioned, hey, Danny Dimes doesn't have a leash. He's going to be the starter all year.
Does that mean AR might be traded?

Speaker 1 Does that mean, hey, they're still going to give AR a chance next year, whether Danny Dimes, you know, plays well and re-signs or signs elsewhere?

Speaker 1 What should we take away from the Steichen press conference and Danny Dines being the starter?

Speaker 6 Yeah, to me, the takeaway was the most significant thing that Shane Steichen said today was this is not really a trial basis. This is not a short-term experiment.

Speaker 6 Daniel Jones is the guy that they're planning to have start the season.

Speaker 6 Now, that doesn't mean that Daniel Jones is going to play at that level all year, but he's going to be given every opportunity to have an extended run.

Speaker 6 And if he plays well and they're winning games, then it's his job for this season.

Speaker 6 And if he plays well like that, you'd have to figure that they're going to bring him back again while they continue to look at another quarterback. So it's all there

Speaker 6 for Daniel Jones, whereas it's not there right now for Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson becomes the backup.

Speaker 6 I don't think they're looking to deal him, but maybe there's a team out there that says, hey, we really value Anthony Richardson and we'll give you an offer that you can't pass up.

Speaker 6 I don't think somebody would do that right now because Anthony Richardson's stock is low. But you never know how teams view a quarterback.

Speaker 6 There are certainly some teams out there that could use another quarterback, but my guess would be that Daniel Jones, it's his job. He will be the guy.
That's what they want to have happen.

Speaker 6 Anthony Richardson will be the backup. And by the way, the Colts don't know that Daniel Jones is going to be great all year long.
He may not play up to their expectations and his capabilities.

Speaker 6 But if he does, he's going to be the guy. If not, they have Anthony Richardson on the bench.
And then after the season, they have to make a decision on his fifth-year option.

Speaker 6 And if he's not playing this year, that's a simple decision. I wouldn't expect that they're going to pick up the fifth-year option.

Speaker 6 He'd be back in Indy next year, might be the last year in his contract, or maybe they look to deal him. But there's so much that has to play out.
There's so many ways that all these situations can go.

Speaker 6 We're just trying to give the most accurate assessment of them today on August 19th as they currently stand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Shefty, do you see a situation where Danny Dimes does play very well, but then similar similar to Darnold, he leaves Indianapolis and then the Colts just go with AR next season, or do you most likely see Danny Dimes staying in India if all goes well?

Speaker 6 Well, it seems like we're seeing more and more of these scenarios over time where quarterbacks who were once high picks go on to have some level of success elsewhere.

Speaker 6 You mentioned Sam Darnold doing that in Minnesota last year and parlaying that into a starting job with the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 6 We saw it with Baker Mayfield essentially runoff in Cleveland and Carolina, turns it into a starting job in Tampa and thrives.

Speaker 6 I mean, this has Alex Smith, my colleague at ESPN, that happened with him.

Speaker 6 So there's a history,

Speaker 6 now listen, there are plenty of quarterbacks that wash out that it doesn't happen for, but we've seen enough examples to think, okay, Daniel Jones has a chance to shine this year.

Speaker 6 And I can tell you this, that what was interesting to me going into free agency, when you spoke to some teams about quarterbacks and having them assess quarterbacks,

Speaker 6 there were multiple head coaches that I spoke to who

Speaker 6 really

Speaker 6 were interested in Daniel Jones and value Daniel Jones. And I was like, I was...

Speaker 6 I was a little surprised. I was like, wow.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Well, I'm just telling you, there was a higher opinion of Daniel Jones in the coaching community than there was in the public.

Speaker 6 So there are enough coaches who believe that he's capable of playing well, and he'll have an opportunity. If he plays well, he could turn into Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield.
If he doesn't,

Speaker 6 then that'll be it for him in the NFL.

Speaker 3 Jeffty, let's go to a guy who we've talked about a ton since the Super Bowl when he came on this show, and that is Trey Henderson.

Speaker 3 Now, we haven't talked to you, though, since it's come out that they are potentially exploring exploring trade options for Trey Hendrickson. Do you know what the latest is there?

Speaker 3 And is that actually something that you think could happen?

Speaker 6 I don't think it's anything different than really what's happened all along

Speaker 6 in the sense that he's asked for a trade.

Speaker 6 Cincinnati always was going to have to be knocked over with an offer that they didn't get in February or March, that they are less likely to get in. August or September.

Speaker 6 The Bengals would have to be willing to almost look the other way and say, we're going to take 50 cents on the dollar to trade him, which they have never been willing to do.

Speaker 6 Does that mean a trade can't happen? No. Do I think a trade is likely to happen? No.

Speaker 6 They have to figure out a way. Now, what's interesting, and it's going to be going on here

Speaker 6 with Trey Hendrickson, with Terry McLaurin. even with Cam Hayward in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Tone. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 6 These guys are all going to have decisions to make about how they want to handle the season. And every one of them is going to have to decide, okay,

Speaker 6 are we willing to play?

Speaker 6 Now, you asked about Trey Hendrickson, and Trey has been very emphatic on the record publicly about the fact that he's not going to play this season on his existing contract that's scheduled to pay him $16 million this year.

Speaker 6 Now, what does that mean? How is he going to handle it? I don't know. Does that mean he retires at the start of the season?

Speaker 6 I guess it could be. Does that mean his back is going to tighten up or his hamstrings going to be sore and he can't play?

Speaker 6 I will say this.

Speaker 6 I do believe Trey Andrickson is a man of principle, and he's been very outspoken about the fact that he's not going to play for $16 million this year.

Speaker 1 Shefty, your co-host, Ty Schmidt has something for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Shefty, do you have any update on Jordan Love? He was back on the practice field today after that thumb surgery on his left hand.

Speaker 4 And I think he threw it pretty well in seven on seven, but they did say that he's going to have very, very limited reps with their practice with Seattle.

Speaker 4 Is there any concern about whether or not he's going to be 100% good to go for week one?

Speaker 6 No, that's why they did the surgery because I think that they expected that he would be able to get back, and they're ramping up slowly.

Speaker 6 This is not anything that's unusual, and there's no reason to subject him to anything that is unusual. So

Speaker 6 it's a case where basically he's on track to be ready to play in the opener against the Detroit Lions, and I think that they feel pretty good about that.

Speaker 2 Hey, Chef, before we let you get out of here, you dropped a bomb on us last year, right before the season started with the Christian McCaffrey news.

Speaker 2 I know a lot of fantasy football drafts are happening right now. Any other breaking news you have for us that may be under the radar as far as fantasy drafts go?

Speaker 6 Well, Darius, I'm happy to share all of that as soon as I conduct my two drafts.

Speaker 1 Oh, you sneak.

Speaker 1 Oh, you dog, Jesse. Sneaky little.
You should expect something.

Speaker 6 No, no, here's what I would say.

Speaker 6 You know, we got a couple of guys out there with soft tissue injuries like Justin Jefferson and Devon A. Chan, and these guys are unbelievable players.

Speaker 6 I learned last year, you know, with Christian McCaffrey that to me, as great as some of these players are, and they're awesome, I think they're fantasy value.

Speaker 6 You have to factor, if there's a soft tissue injury, I think you got to think twice about taking a guy in the early part of the season because those, I think we learned that last year.

Speaker 6 Um, but fantasy like that, uh,

Speaker 6 like little things, you know, Brian Robinson getting traded all of a sudden. All of a sudden, Bill Krosky merit, his value goes up.

Speaker 6 I mean, this happens all the time. Jalen McMillan, the Buccaneers wide receiver,

Speaker 6 sounds like he's going to be on IR to start the year, which means, okay, that's going to be more opportunities for Mike Evans and a mecha Abuka right away.

Speaker 6 Um, so there's always fallout in all of these situations

Speaker 6 and there will be again. So that's the situation.

Speaker 1 All right, Sheffield, appreciate you, man. We know you're running all over the place.
Thank you again. I'm sure you'll be back on the show very shortly.
But ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so what surprised you there? So he's saying the Micah Parsons situation is still divorced. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 How would he play this year? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 If it's going to be a divorce, I just see it happening before he takes a snap this year. Would he, yeah.
Something has to shake.

Speaker 1 If Shefty's saying he might play on his current deal, I don't see that happening. Would he just have a hold in during the season if they don't trade him?

Speaker 2 He loves football. He set out the COVID year before the draft.
Him, Jamar. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It wouldn't make sense for him to play at all. Yeah.
Like, what would do it now?

Speaker 2 We know he can stand on business.

Speaker 1 Willie. And then you don't get a...
You wouldn't get an accrued season, would you? How's that? I think that is this.

Speaker 3 He's due to make 24 this year.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Logan Mankins

Speaker 2 do it. Like

Speaker 2 almost.

Speaker 1 Did Logan Mankins really do that?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I want to say like maybe eight.

Speaker 1 Bro, Logan Mankins. First of all, that's a name people need to know more of.
That dude was awesome. He was

Speaker 1 the O-Wyman of what you want in an O-Wyman right now. Yeah, he's like a fan favorite for New England Patriots fans, like growing.
Yeah, like he said all games are. He's a scary human player.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure he did, and that's why he ended up getting traded to Tampa. But when it comes to Patriots fans who,

Speaker 1 like, when you look back at the dynasty players that you wish won a Super Bowl, Randy Moss and Logan Mankins are the top of them. Logan didn't get one? They're at the top of everybody's list.

Speaker 1 Logan Mankins got drafted, I believe, in 2006, and then he got traded in 2013.

Speaker 1 And they won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 He was eight games, 2010.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And they won the Super Bowl in 2014 and 2005.

Speaker 1 So the year before he got there and the year after he left.

Speaker 2 So he lost that second one in 2011.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he lost the undefeated one too, I thought.
Oh, I thought, but I forget what year he was. He was a monster.
He was so good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, guys, like, I mean, yeah, he played a whole year with a torn knee.

Speaker 1 I remember that being. ACO, yeah.
Yeah, whole year. Bill had to love him.
Oh, yeah. I mean, he's a guy that every head coach would love.

Speaker 1 And he probably loved that he sat out, but he was probably like,

Speaker 1 too bad. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I appreciate what you're doing here, but we're going to have to move on. Yeah, man.
Speaking of one great guy to another, we have another one waiting on the line.

Speaker 1 We will not wait any longer ladies and gentlemen he doesn't need an introduction please welcome mr marty smithy

Speaker 1 i see you marty with the sweet joe burnt gentlemen i hope you're well i hope you're festive you're always festive i don't even even need to ask that question i hope y'all boys are good thanks for having me yeah we are doing we're doing well marty we appreciate you you asking about us so how's your life going right now what's going on now with football right on the cusp of everything any uh any news you have that we don't know about since you're in the big chair i i wanted wanted to make sure that that was there.

Speaker 10 That looks good.

Speaker 1 Got a lot of Buckeye stickers on there. I see you.

Speaker 10 Got a lot of Buckeye stickers. I played really well on special teams.

Speaker 1 We need wedgebusters.

Speaker 10 Yeah, man,

Speaker 10 I am at a fever pitch for college football to get here. I've been watching every NFL preseason game, which I've never done, I don't think, in my life.

Speaker 10 But so many of these young men playing the game now at the highest level, I had the blessing of building relationships with while they were playing college football.

Speaker 10 and so I'm so invested in their success. And so, it's fun to see.

Speaker 10 I just can't wait to kick it off. Man, let's strap up and get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 When you build a relationship with these guys, when they're in college, I wondered, can you tell some of the guys that?

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess it's hard to tell who's going to make it, but could you tell some college guys that maybe aren't going to make it at the next level?

Speaker 1 Have you ever been like, Man, I don't know about that guy, he may be a great college player, but I don't know if that translates to the NFL?

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 10 I think there were probably some guys that proved me wrong,

Speaker 5 But honestly,

Speaker 10 when you're at the University of Alabama and Ohio State and Texas and LSU and Clemson all the time,

Speaker 10 you're looking at the premier talents in the game and not just premier talents in the game, but they have to have a self-accountability and a coach ability and the

Speaker 10 ability to listen and develop. in order to stay there.
And so most of those guys are going to have the opportunity based on the context that they're in to be great.

Speaker 10 And like I remember when Joe Burrow was at Ohio State. And I remember when he was battling for the starting job against Dwayne Haskins.

Speaker 10 And I remember thinking, that guy's going to win because he's such a dog. And then Dwayne, of course, he won the job, wound up throwing for 50 touchdowns, was a Heisman finalist.

Speaker 10 Absolutely the right choice by Urban Meyer and his group. Rest in peace.
And then, oh, am I breaking up a little bit? No, you're good. You're good.
Okay, good, good, good.

Speaker 10 So then Joe goes to LSU, and I told everybody, I said, I promise you, this guy is going to be different. I promise you, this is going to be a guy who comes in.

Speaker 10 He's going to be a little grizzly at first. He's a different kind of cat to get to know.

Speaker 10 But once they see him between the lines, once they see him in the weight room, once they watch him lead, they're going to see a different kind of dude. And then, in my estimation,

Speaker 10 maybe produce the greatest season in the history of college football with that 2019 group that just had pros everywhere with Jamar and with JJ and with Clyde Edwards Allaire, on and on and on, right?

Speaker 10 But I just kind of knew it with him. And so that kind of came out of nowhere for some people, but I feel like I kind of had that all the way back at Ohio State.

Speaker 1 Nice. Well,

Speaker 1 I would imagine, Marty, you can evaluate talent. You've been around enough guys.
You've gotten to know them.

Speaker 1 You know what it takes, I guess, on and off the field to get it done, especially at the next level. But stay in the SEC.
Today Schmidt's got a question for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Marty, last year we really didn't have too many coaching changes in college football as a whole.

Speaker 4 But when you look at the SEC this year, obviously, you know, John Gruden mentioned when he was at Georgia, like, hey, I'd love to be back on the sidelines, particularly in an SEC program.

Speaker 4 When you look around the SEC, whether it's Arkansas or Auburn, even, you know, Florida, I know Billy Napier kind of garnered some goodwill back with the way they finished the season.

Speaker 4 But do you expect us to see multiple new head coaches in the SEC next year based on kind of what you're forecasting for how teams do this year, particularly a guy like John Gruden?

Speaker 10 Well, this is the first time in a long time we have 16 head coaches that were there last year too

Speaker 10 in the Southeastern Conference. Now, Billy, I've fought for Billy.
I think that he's a phenomenal football coach. He had to turn a culture, which is really hard to do, and it took a little time.

Speaker 10 And then he got a guy behind center and DJ Lagway that is an incredibly gifted young man, a very composed young man.

Speaker 10 I had the opportunity to interview him with McGee at SEC Media Days, and we were very impressed with him.

Speaker 10 Billy's got it humming, but again, they have the hardest schedule in the country. So that's another part of this league that makes it difficult is there's just not a week off.

Speaker 10 There's just not any week off where you can rest. When Vanderbilt's beaten Alabama last year,

Speaker 10 you know that scene in Christmas Vacation where

Speaker 10 Clark lights up the house with the Christmas lights and he's going down the line of the family and saying, isn't it beautiful? Isn't it beautiful? He gets a cousin Eddie.

Speaker 10 And Eddie goes, you surprise Clark?

Speaker 10 And Clark goes, I would, if I woke up this morning with my head sewn to the carpet, I wouldn't be as surprised as I am right now. Well, that's Vanderbilt beating Alabama last year.

Speaker 10 But Clark Lee has even built a program on the verge with Diego Pavia behind center. So it's just really difficult.
In terms of people whose jobs might be questionable,

Speaker 10 certainly you're going to look at Coach Pittman, which pains me to say because he's one of my favorite people in the world. But winning is the business, and he'll be the first to tell you that.

Speaker 10 He told that to McGee and me

Speaker 10 last month at Media Days. And so some people might point to guys like Mark Stoops at Kentucky, who's had a tremendous tenure there.
But can they take that next step?

Speaker 10 Look, if John Gruden came to the SEC, the time space continuum might just fold in on itself because it would be just another

Speaker 10 incredible mind, incredibly passionate guy that would be great for the league. I don't know if you guys have ever spent time around him.

Speaker 10 But that damn guy is intense as all hell all the time, and I love being around him.

Speaker 1 He loves ball, man. I love when somebody loves like whatever they're passionate about.

Speaker 1 John Gruden's clearly passionate about football. He loves it.
Another guy's very passionate. Darius Butler, he's got a question for you.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah. I know you've been boots on the ground at SEC for a long, long time.
A couple days ago, maybe yesterday, SEC in Auburn, great Cam Newton's jersey was going to get retired. It got announced.

Speaker 2 He'll go up in the rafters. Any memory of Cam Newton, that unbelievable run he had at Auburn? And then is there a team this year that can maybe go on the magical run like that?

Speaker 10 Well, there is, first of all, the camback.

Speaker 10 You know, when he put that entire team on his shoulders and came back against Alabama in the Iron Bowl, that's really the stamp of what was

Speaker 10 an incredible season at Auburn. And some people may forget he played one year there.
And he only did every damn thing that you can do.

Speaker 10 This Jersey retirement, this number retirement is a long time coming.

Speaker 10 All the guy did was win the Heisman, win a national championship, do every single single thing you can do individually, and put his entire team on his shoulders every single Saturday.

Speaker 10 That guy was, he's an alien. And I've had the opportunity to be around him some because I live in Charlotte, and he, of course, was the MVP of the league here.

Speaker 10 And he did a lot for the community that people don't know about. Oh, yeah.
And I've always

Speaker 10 appreciated that about Cam. Anytime I'm around him, he's so cool and so gracious with his time.
And just as a quick story, a friend of mine had a son that was battling

Speaker 10 cancer and ultimately lost

Speaker 10 that battle with cancer. And they had

Speaker 10 a Halloween celebration for him earlier in October than Halloween actually fell.

Speaker 10 And there was an end, this young lady went to Auburn, lifelong Auburn fanatic. And it got to Cam that this young man who was battling cancer was one of his biggest fans and Cam showed up.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. That's pretty special.

Speaker 10 So those are things, man. Those are things that are

Speaker 10 not championed enough that so many athletes are doing.

Speaker 10 And for a guy like Cam that can be polarizing to a lot of people, I can tell you that my personal experience and I've seen what he's done here in Charlotte,

Speaker 10 congrats to him, man.

Speaker 1 Congrats to Cam. Unbelievable player.
Yeah, it's cool hearing the off-the-field stuff like that. Tone Diggs, you got something for Marty? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 We're going to to stick down in Auburn, down on the plains.

Speaker 3 Hugh Freeze came out and said he may play all three quarterbacks against Baylor in week one. And I think that kind of caught people off guard because they bring in Jackson Arnold.

Speaker 3 They pay Jackson Arnold, who's the five-star freshman out of Oklahoma, who they bring in.

Speaker 3 It kind of threw people off. I know they have a very highly touted

Speaker 3 freshman who they just brought in and the kid who started out of Stanford last year, but I think everyone thought Jackson was going to be the starter.

Speaker 3 What is your sense of the situation down there with Hugh Freeze? Is it a situation? Because I've heard practice hasn't gone incredibly great for that first-team offense.

Speaker 3 What are you reading about the Auburn quarterback situation? Because it's one of the only quarterbacks we have left to hear about.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it tells you they're really searching. And Coach Freeze has a very specific kind of guy he wants behind center.
He told us at SEC Media Days when McGee and I sat down with him that

Speaker 10 he looked at Jackson Arnold as a guy that has incredible talent, and we know that. I mean, he was a 50-star coming out of high school, starts at Oklahoma.

Speaker 10 It did not go in any way, shape, or form like all of us expected it would at Oklahoma. Jackson looked confused a lot when he was behind center in Norman.
He told us,

Speaker 10 takes a fresh start, goes over to the plains, and we all just made the assumption.

Speaker 10 Especially by the fact that he was one of the three players for Auburn that was at Media Day speaking on behalf of the program, that it was a foregone conclusion that he would be the guy.

Speaker 10 It just tells you that he's still trying to grasp what Coach Freeze wants to do, and these other guys might be doing as good a job.

Speaker 10 Going into a first game like that with three guys that are going to see action, not good. Not good at all for Coach Freeze in a season where he knows that there is so much pressure to win.

Speaker 10 I mean,

Speaker 10 it's just the way it is. It's the job.
And so they better get that tightened up in a hurry, man.

Speaker 1 How do you figure three of them out? Like, you hope two of them play bad and one plays great? How do you figure that out?

Speaker 10 I don't know because I don't. AJ, you've been around the game your whole life and have forgotten more about football than I'll ever know.
I've never heard of that.

Speaker 1 It just seems like a tough thing.

Speaker 1 It's already tough enough when there's two of the guys, but if you're going to play three and say, all right, hey, who's going to separate themselves out of this group?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's, I guess, yeah, crazier things have happened. I don't know.
You got to find the rhythm, man.

Speaker 1 A quarterback's position, too, where it's like, yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just like when the rest of the team knows who's in command, who is in charge, who well, and that player knows.

Speaker 10 And that player knows, you know, to Darius' point about rhythm, there's also self-confidence. The quarterback superpower is self-confidence.
And if you're looking over your shoulder,

Speaker 10 you don't have that, at least not to the degree internally that is required to know the play, be able to read what the defense is doing and rip.

Speaker 10 There's going to be just maybe a little bit of hesitation in there, and you just can't have hesitation.

Speaker 3 There was a practice clip where Jackson Arnold, they were in the red zone, and I think it was just, it was like two on two.

Speaker 1 It was just a nickel in the corner outside, and he didn't throw the ball.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, there's definitely some confidence stuff going on.

Speaker 10 And Coach Freeze is obviously frustrated too, guys. If you've seen any of the footage from him getting pissed off and, you know, throwing his visor, and that's a guy,

Speaker 10 like, you got to remember, like, Coach Freeze has won everywhere he's been. He's a real good ball coach.

Speaker 10 And so to get another lease on the SEC as he has at a program, pardon me, a tradition-rich program like Auburn and be that close to beating Nick Saban again with Gravedigger two years ago, that's the kind of loss that loss sticks with you.

Speaker 10 It sticks with the program.

Speaker 10 It's like Temple of Doom when that Warlord dude tears that guy's heart out and shows it to him.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
That That being said, Don Dad, you got something for me. Yeah, Marty, speaking of looking over his shoulder, hopefully CJ Carr isn't doing that at Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 He was finally named the starter after a pretty hefty battle. I personally feel as though I've been hearing about CJ Carr from Irish fans for the past five years.

Speaker 1 So it's a little bit of a surprise that it was even up for debate that he was going to be the starting quarterback. What should we expect out of him in Notre Dame?

Speaker 1 And do you worry about him, you know, thinking that Kenny's behind him and that he might get a shot?

Speaker 1 Or do you think CJ Carr gets kind of the Danny Jones treatment and ends up being the QB for the entire season?

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 what Marcus Freeman has humming there in South Bend is so impressive because they have built such a fantastic culture. They have built such a sustainable excellence that

Speaker 10 that decision was made for a reason, and that's because that young man was running that offense the best. And he has a lot of talent around him, a lot of talent.

Speaker 10 He's got a Heisman candidate lining up behind him. He's got a great line in front of him.
And so I'm not, I have no worry about that at all. And in fact,

Speaker 10 what they did last year to me was such an incredible statement because

Speaker 10 to beat the teams that they beat to get to the national championship,

Speaker 10 I just think that they are just getting started.

Speaker 10 I think that they, last year was a statement, but I just think this is such a sustainable thing that Marcus has built. He loves to be there.

Speaker 10 And I think that they have the opportunity to take another step. Now, will they win the national championship? They're not my pick, but

Speaker 10 I think they're going to be in that conversation for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you would think with Marcus there, they'll be in that conversation for a long time to come, a long time down the road. But I want a quick pivot before we let you go there, Marty.

Speaker 1 What do you think of Scotty Scheff? We're obviously chipping in on 17, getting another big victory. What are your thoughts on his dominance right now in the PGA tour?

Speaker 10 I'll try to be succinct because we're running out of time, but there's not enough superlatives, and that's not just what he's doing on the golf course.

Speaker 10 You know, you look at that chip right there that you guys are showing on 17 last weekend.

Speaker 10 That wasn't by happenstance. He practiced that exact shot with that exact pin placement during his practice rounds and what he expected to be the putt following.
He didn't need that putt.

Speaker 10 But that's the kind of thing that just rips Bobby McIntyre's soul out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 10 what Scotty is doing is incredible.

Speaker 5 And it's not just

Speaker 10 the golf excellence. It's the man that he is.
It's the way he's doing it. I don't remember another athlete in any other sport

Speaker 10 that does this in a way that it's not the most forthright thing in his entire life. Scotty is playing golf because he loves to work at golf and it's his gift from God.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 10 it's not Scotty's number one light in his life. And I want to read you guys something going all the way back to April 9th, 2022.
This is the night before he won the Masters the first time.

Speaker 10 And I interviewed him that evening on Saturday night for Sports Center and for the Masters podcast for Please Now Driving.

Speaker 10 And I asked him, to what degree have you allowed yourself to consider the emotion of that green jacket sliding across your shoulders tomorrow afternoon? And this is what he said verbatim.

Speaker 10 And I have a little note card. This is what he said.

Speaker 10 If I win this golf tournament, it will change my life on the golf course, but it won't change my personal life at home. Winning the golf tournament isn't going to satisfy my soul or my heart.

Speaker 10 I know that going in, so I'm able to play freely, knowing that the rest really isn't up to me. I'm just going to go do my best.

Speaker 10 Now,

Speaker 10 you think about that.

Speaker 10 How many athletes, period, but especially the elite of the elite historically, can genuinely look in the mirror and look at their beautiful wife and son with that authentic energy of

Speaker 6 you are first.

Speaker 10 That is, that is different. And I admire it to a degree that is incapable of being properly stated.

Speaker 1 Well said, Marty. We admire you, Marty.
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Love you, Marty.

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Speaker 1 Yeah, Scotty Shepherd was pretty special, special, huh? Yeah, yeah, that's scoop. I think people try to say, oh, he don't care about ball that much, though.

Speaker 1 Because he cares about life, he cares about his wife and kids. He says all this.
He doesn't care about golf. Yeah, at this point, I think

Speaker 1 it's not even a question. It's not even a debate.
I think people understand, like, okay, yeah, this guy loves golf, but also he's just better than it. It's not his identity, though.

Speaker 1 That's what's cool. Like, it's not...

Speaker 1 He's like, I play golf. I'm a golfer, but it's not who I am.
That's what he basically I feel like he's saying. But you play golf.
It's not not your identity. You probably want it to be your identity.

Speaker 1 It is who I am.

Speaker 1 I love my kids. I love my family.
You scratched golfer yet?

Speaker 2 No, hell no. I'm shooting anywhere from about 80, let's say 84 to 91.

Speaker 1 You've probably shot 75, though.

Speaker 2 No, I haven't broke 80 yet, actually. My lowest score has been 82.

Speaker 1 Well, you're actually probably putting everything out.

Speaker 2 I put everything out.

Speaker 1 I don't count that score away. I'm not 82.

Speaker 1 Have you ever played golf with anybody else? They don't put anything under 10 feet, I feel like. A lot of you guys play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of people. They're not playing golf.
That's good for me. I'm like, all right, not if we're gambling.
It's not good.

Speaker 1 You're lucky we're not gambling on this.

Speaker 2 I'm not putting out a triple bogey.

Speaker 2 I'll take a gimme on that.

Speaker 2 But if I'm

Speaker 2 birdie, par, bogey, like, I'm putting a

Speaker 1 that chip that Scotty had on 17, though, like...

Speaker 1 That is another one that's going to stick in every other golfer's brain. You know, if Scotty is lurking anywhere, and Tiger had this, obviously, a huge effect back in the day.

Speaker 1 But now that that just is another thing that gives scotty to where before the round even starts scotty already has him scotty already is like you're already ahead on these guys because they know like this guy will make magic happen i don't i don't know how you beat him right now what did you say how did they start the last round bobby mac oh yeah yeah i mean what bobby mack was like four up and then he bogies three of his first four holes and scotty birdies three of his first four holes and yes guess what scotty's your new leader it's just like i don't know if there's been a guy since tiger where with his c game he could go out and win a tournament and if he has his A game like it's over he's winning by multiple strokes.

Speaker 4 So it's just like I don't know you have to be better than perfect because we were talking about it You know like Bobby Mac was unbelievable all week I mean I can't remember what was it Friday he he birdies six of his you know his last six hole

Speaker 1 compared to how much

Speaker 4 yeah exactly like you watch him play it's like okay this guy is destined to win this week like you you if you're playing this good it doesn't matter how good anyone else is playing.

Speaker 4 But then, Scotty just has the ability.

Speaker 4 And I think, guys, now, too, it's getting to the point, maybe, I mean, definitely not anywhere near what it was like with Tiger, but like on Sunday, when it was close and a guy had to play with Tiger in that final group, like those guys would crumble.

Speaker 4 Like, they would feel that pressure way more than

Speaker 4 being solo leader or anything like that. And it feels like it's that way with Scotty now, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they released after he won the weeks that he still needs to tie Tiger for the most consecutive weeks at number one, and yeah, it's Halloween. Three years, 2028, Halloween, yeah.

Speaker 2 That is, I mean, yeah, he could be.

Speaker 1 Right now, I'd probably bet Dante doing it.

Speaker 2 I got a question with the FedEx, the championship points, and how it is, because we just saw what happened in Live with Wako winning five events, Rom not, and him winning the championship.

Speaker 2 And what scenario could Scotty

Speaker 2 not win the scenario?

Speaker 1 He's never gonna a lead rules.

Speaker 1 He used to get a lead head in, right, Dick?

Speaker 3 So last year,

Speaker 3 Scotty would have been first, obviously, coming in in points.

Speaker 3 So he would have started 10 under, I believe. Yes.

Speaker 1 This final tour. And the closest would have been what?

Speaker 3 I think seven or eight under.

Speaker 1 So about a three-shot lead over the next closest.

Speaker 3 Correct. Correct.

Speaker 3 This year, they changed it.

Speaker 3 It's just a flat-out tournament. Like, he gets no advantage.
So I think it's very stupid.

Speaker 1 So he doesn't win this last time to win the money.

Speaker 3 He comes in fourth.

Speaker 2 He's still winning.

Speaker 1 I I think he would have to withdraw to not win. Yeah, shot in the head or something.

Speaker 3 No, it's my opinion.

Speaker 1 No, I did a lot of research on this because I've been very confused by it. Anyone can come in first in this tournament championship and they can win the, I believe, the $20 million.

Speaker 1 And I don't know how or why they changed it this way. Unless we're wrong, I researched like four different places, and it said whoever gets first place gets the $20 million.

Speaker 1 The points don't matter. The points just get you into the tournament.
And then it's like, hey, let's get to the final two. You just got to get top 30 and you have a chance.

Speaker 1 I hope we're wrong. I hope so.
Brain were wrong because I thought that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 Dude, Rory's just skipped the first

Speaker 2 time.

Speaker 1 He didn't. Yeah, because he didn't have to.
Took a bye week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he didn't play in Memphis.

Speaker 3 Because he had enough points that he didn't have to.

Speaker 1 Because he still had been top 50 top points. Does he get money for coming in first at the end of the regular season? Because if he does, then it would make sense where it's like, hey, winner.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm asking. I don't know.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
I don't think more. I think the winner is.
He won 10 mil for that tournament, didn't he?

Speaker 3 Yeah, the winner of this one makes 20, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now the big. If you're the FedEx Cup champ, it's 20 to 25, I think.
Correct. That's what it was, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I was wondering if because he doesn't get any advantage for having on those points, like, does he get some sort of

Speaker 1 no, there's not like a regular

Speaker 1 point,

Speaker 1 essentially.

Speaker 4 And then they need to rebrand it then and stop calling it like the playoffs and everything because it's like this guy's your champion.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, if Scotty's going in with a five-shot lead over people, it's kind of weird, too.

Speaker 2 That was a little Mickey Mouse. I guess like

Speaker 4 at least it gives you an advantage for having the kind of year that he had.

Speaker 1 You can't be the 30th guy and have the exact same advantage to win $20 million as Scotty Scheffler right now. Exactly.
That's why there's no way we can be ready.

Speaker 3 If you want to think about it this way though, technically,

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 3 what, 16th team that gets in the NFL playoffs does have the exact same chance to win the Super Bowl that the number one 14 and 13.

Speaker 1 They got to buy though. Sure.
Yeah, you got to go to the road.

Speaker 3 Well, Scotty could have taken three weeks off and had buys.

Speaker 1 And showed up for this one. Yeah, go to.

Speaker 1 It's even more impressive how Scotty is dominating now with, like, he knows, like, he's the only one that knows how hard it is to win a golf tournament.

Speaker 1 He's like, hey, I know I make it look easy, but this is really, really tough. Like, every week to continue to play

Speaker 1 four days, like, hey, and to still stay on top and to still dominate, like, in that moment, like, we take it for granted, I think. Yeah, he's doing pro-ams, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course. It's not like he's just going Thursday to Sunday, which

Speaker 1 is probably showing up Monday. Yeah, he's probably there Monday.
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 But the fact that like all that is to where he's at that point where it's a tiger level almost where, hey, if Scotty's in the field,

Speaker 1 you can bet on the field, you can bet on Scotty. Most people are taking Scotty.

Speaker 1 That's a lot. Scotty knows that.
The fact that he knows that and he's still dominating at this level, I don't want to take it for granted because he's got to know, like, hey, man,

Speaker 1 if I have one-off tournament, everyone's going to think I'm done for life. He doesn't.

Speaker 1 Imagine if he finishes 50th or he misses a cut someday. He's not going to.
I know.

Speaker 4 That's the thing. He said, he's like the most

Speaker 1 tournament on the planet. He doesn't.

Speaker 4 This guy wins every week. And when he plays like shit, he gets top 10.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just, it's crazy. It's unbelievable.
Got thrown in jail and he finished like seventh. Yeah.
Got to take Scott back.

Speaker 2 Catty's back. Ted Scott back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Ted got, yeah, Ted had to deal with some family issues. He came back.
He's on the back. Like, even Bryson said, like, I played against Scotty in college.
He was not this good in college.

Speaker 1 So whatever it is clicked with his swing mental. You know, we know golf is all mental.
Yeah. It separates those guys.

Speaker 1 Scotty and

Speaker 1 John Romne need to go pink slips if Scotty has. Because Ron win the live situation, right? How much was that? 18 mil? 18.
18 to win their whole championship? Yep. Back-to-back championship.

Speaker 1 Oh, he won it back-to-back years. Did you watch it all? Of course.
There's an indie tournament. When did the indie tournament happen?

Speaker 1 Nick, where he went?

Speaker 1 Nick, it was sweet, right, in person?

Speaker 3 It was sweet in person. So much different than how it is portrayed on TV, and it was a really cool person.

Speaker 1 What do you mean exactly? I don't know.

Speaker 3 On TV, it just doesn't come across as captivating. It makes me possibly.

Speaker 1 Hockey's awesome in person. On TV, it is awesome, but not as great.

Speaker 3 Yeah, kind of. It was just a cool atmosphere.
It was fun. It was a little more relaxed than PGA events, and it was a good time.
Okay, so.

Speaker 1 Clear this up for us, Diggs.

Speaker 3 A little bit.

Speaker 3 So the winner of this last tournament doesn't get the 20-whatever anymore. They get 10 million for winning this one.

Speaker 3 Scotty was actually in favor of this because Scotty didn't like having

Speaker 3 how they started minus 10 or whatever last year.

Speaker 3 So this year they gave out bonuses based on if you had made, if you were, where you were in the top 10 at the beginning end of the season after the BMW stuff like that. So they did get money already.

Speaker 1 Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Okay, cool. Hey, we're up against it.
I appreciate Daniel Jeremiah, Adam Schefter, the great Marty Smith was with us. We appreciate you.
Tomorrow, I won't be here. I'll be joining remotely.

Speaker 1 Someone else will be in this. What?

Speaker 1 Stick around. See you tomorrow.
Nice.

Speaker 1 What a team.

Speaker 1 I don't know who. I don't know if we're supposed to say.
I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 I didn't say.

Speaker 4 Why don't you pop that lid off and show us that beautiful flowing locks ears?

Speaker 1 It's not beautiful flowing locks right now. Look, where is my hair?

Speaker 1 Look, I grow up my sides. It's coming.
That's what I was going to say. I'm just growing my sides out.

Speaker 1 Okay, I shaved my head up in here.

Speaker 1 I just want to grow my sides out and I can have a... You're going to look like J.J.
Watt. Did you see his new beautiful hair? What's his new hair?

Speaker 1 Was he drinking beers with the

Speaker 1 ice cold one?

Speaker 3 His hair is sweet. He's got a good flowing flow.

Speaker 1 When's his first, what's the first assignment he has?

Speaker 3 Steelers, actually.

Speaker 1 It's Steelers, Jets. Steelers, Jets, yeah.
Oh, great one. Honestly, Jage's going to do great all year, I think.

Speaker 1 Jage loves ball. That's a good boo.
So look at Scarax. He's awesome.
That's what you're going to look like. Yeah, I don't have.
He's got some curls, too. I don't have those natural, nice curls.

Speaker 1 So what are they doing? They're doing like a walk to the stadium? Yeah.

Speaker 3 That was his first game with

Speaker 1 Mayor.

Speaker 1 This is new team. Daniel.

Speaker 1 So, Gump, this is his second team?

Speaker 12 Yeah, they actually beat one of the best teams in Spain 2-1. It was a massive win.

Speaker 1 It was the first time that team they beat lost on opening day since like 2000 or something.

Speaker 12 Yeah, Atletico Madrid is like right behind Barcelona and Real. It was an unbelievable win for his new squad.

Speaker 1 Were you there, Gump, at this game?

Speaker 12 No, I was in Mallorca the night before for Mallorca, Barcelona.

Speaker 1 How was it in Mallorca? I heard it was pretty nice.

Speaker 12 It's beautiful there. I cannot express how good Lamin Yamal is live.
Oh, my God. Every time he gets the ball on his foot,

Speaker 12 the defender is fighting for his life, man. He cut in on two guys, put one top shelf.
Unbelievable atmosphere.

Speaker 1 Tell him, D-Bud.

Speaker 1 We introduced D-Bud, or Gump introduced D-Bud to

Speaker 1 Yamal.

Speaker 2 we were in the Zebo yesterday after the show, and just talking the beautiful game. And I'm like, I got to see this kid, man.
Because

Speaker 2 I actually saw a headline with him this offseason, which had nothing to do with soccer. I'm like, what did it have to do with it? You know what? I like this guy.

Speaker 1 I like this dude.

Speaker 2 And I don't know. But

Speaker 2 I had some highlights, just probably like a 10-minute highlight on YouTube of just, you know, top 50 plays maybe.

Speaker 2 And I don't know much about soccer, but I play FIFA. This dude is.

Speaker 1 Is he doing this feed over?

Speaker 1 Bro, having a 10-ball highlight at 17 years old by itself is ridiculous. And it's like he's 10 years old.

Speaker 2 And he's playing against the best, you know, the best guys

Speaker 2 in the world. You know what I mean? This dude was 16, 17, 18, and the shit he was doing.

Speaker 2 Regardless, if you don't know shit about the sport, you could just see him and the shit he's doing and what he's doing to other guys. Unbelievable.
So

Speaker 2 this Saturday, 3 o'clock, I will be tuned in to catch him.

Speaker 1 I put him a couple of stumps.

Speaker 12 ESPN or ESPN Plus, they got got the La Liga deal.

Speaker 12 But I'm telling you, every time he gets the ball on his foot,

Speaker 12 you'll see the other defenders go over because they know they got to help the other guy because they're in hell.

Speaker 1 They know they're going to. He's in the middle of the middle.
He's just going to skin them all.

Speaker 12 He's so fast with his feet. It's insane, man.

Speaker 1 So it's just a matter of time before an MLS squad picks him up. Yeah.
There we go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Telecolumbus to pick up.

Speaker 1 Money ears.

Speaker 12 I'll tell you what.

Speaker 12 I saw that operation they got going at Barcelona.

Speaker 12 That is a beautiful setup they got.

Speaker 4 Well, you said it was pretty similar to like Real Salt Lake, right?

Speaker 12 Yeah, just a tad bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, not to mention, Lami and Yamal grew up like a diehard Tempers fan. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 4 Like most do over there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not as if he just loves a song or vlogs. Yeah.
You think? Yeah, no, he's a. I'm going to check him out.
I'll watch this guy's highlights. Maybe on the drive home.
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 No, I'll wait till. I shouldn't do that.
I'll wait till I get home with him. Yeah, it's storming up.
You should watch. Is it really?

Speaker 2 Careful, yeah. I know you're not a soccer fan, but you should watch.

Speaker 1 I'm a fan of anyone that's really awesome at something. Yeah, this is good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Soccer, watching soccer dudes in person, even at the TST thing, like you see the guys that are really good, like when they separate themselves, it's like the whole first touch and how they can calm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's being patient with the ball. Like black boots? When they're

Speaker 1 watching dudes, yes, and red boots. When watching guys that are bad,

Speaker 1 yeah, right. Remember old rugs? Yep.
What about the Indianapolis nightmare outlaw?

Speaker 1 He never was bad. How dare you? He was a little bit of an Indianapolis nightmare this year, though.

Speaker 1 I might be past it, brother.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 He's a father now. He's a little long in the tooth.

Speaker 1 African. How many guys? We got a few lads who are long in the tooth.
How many guys did you guys say were long in the tooth this past year? I mean, TST. Brella's tooth was dragging behind the guy.

Speaker 1 Brella's doing like a Rocky IV Ivan Drago type workout for the next 350 days. Yeah, just prove that he's not

Speaker 1 the end of this year. Yeah, he's going to prove the opposite, though.
He's going to end up coming into you know TST. He's gonna be all tired.
You think? I know. Tear a hamstring like day one.

Speaker 1 Like guys would come in and tear the hamstring with a conditioning test. He's gonna be on that pitch.
He's coming in the best shape of my life. Dude, tears his hamstring the second gasser you run.

Speaker 1 Of course. That was cool, guys.
Just come in healthy, right? I mean,

Speaker 2 I've learned when you got older and you become able, they say, be a pro. A lot of those things are preventable.
The soft tissue stuff, they definitely are preventable.

Speaker 2 Especially if you're a guy like me who was a low body fat guy, so had more higher tendency to, you know tear a calf or a growing or a hammy or quad or something like that hydration was everything you had to hydrate around the clock and then you know for me like sleep getting actually sleeping changed everything for me because up until i was probably like 27 28 like i wasn't going to sleep before like two o'clock in the morning

Speaker 2 it wasn't i wasn't like running the streets but i'd be in bed i'd be playing video games i'd just be on my phone just doing something until like two two two thirty in the morning and then when i actually started getting like you know seven eight hours of sleep completely changed everything as far as recovery and like preventing shit for sure.

Speaker 1 You have to. Simple.
It's simple, but you got to get out, though. But you got to think, certain things you have to figure out.

Speaker 2 You got to figure out what works for you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because that doesn't work for everybody.

Speaker 1 Didn't everybody do that to you? I'm sure when you first got in the league, like coaches will tell you, hey, make sure you got to do exactly prepared just like this guy did.

Speaker 1 Whoever the guy is before you, who,

Speaker 1 okay, I'm going to watch him. I'm going to question him.
I might, but like, some of the stuff's not going to work for me, probably.

Speaker 2 And some people just go, you know, but it works for them.

Speaker 2 they do you know over-the-top shit but you know you got it 15 hours at the facility yeah yeah i'm at a facility at 4 30 i leave at seven okay you hate your family i get it like you know you get in you you know whatever works you sometimes hot tub it's cold tub maybe it's a contrast you get a massage mat chiropractor stretch do you get your routine and you just figure it out and then um you know but you do it you know i ask questions i ask them the vets the the some questions and you know you get you ask the right guys questions you know there's some guys you don't need to ask yeah i want to watch the guys who are going to figure it out even if they're you know maybe limping throughout you know monday through friday then sunday boom

Speaker 2 okay what what the fuck how do you how do you do that and it's just they have their process and everybody has their different things and once you get your schedule and you figure it out but it's important that it works because everybody's you know home life is different everybody's body is different so you really have to figure out what works for you so that you know your body that's that's that's your money maker you can't be out there you can't can't make the club in the tub you know that's what we saw.

Speaker 2 That's what old heads always says, so it's true.

Speaker 1 I know if I'm a coach, though, I also at the same time, I don't want a dude that comes in as like 22 years old as a rookie or something.

Speaker 1 I don't need him to have to have a two-hour warm-up every day to do, to get to practice. Legit.

Speaker 1 He doesn't need to have like a, you know, circle jerk session with four people on his staff to get him warmed up.

Speaker 1 There's also like, you have to find a way to make it

Speaker 1 with the team. There's not just individual.
You got to be able to warm with the team, do this, and just all of a sudden go, especially if you're a young kid.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you got to, man.

Speaker 1 I ain't never seen Secretariat stretch. I had multiple guys I played with always would say that I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Valid.

Speaker 1 And then as I got older, I learned, hey, I need to stretch a little bit. Yeah.
I might need to. For sure.
But I don't know. Ty, you don't need to stretch.
Nah, I'm a fat slob.

Speaker 1 Come on now. I really don't.
Don't say that.

Speaker 1 We don't play in the league.

Speaker 1 I don't like you talking negative on yourself, Ty. That's false.
You look great. You feel great, hopefully.
Aaron Judge, baseball. I saw you.
How the Yankees do?

Speaker 2 I saw you slinging the, what do you call it?

Speaker 1 You can throw it.

Speaker 4 Oh, the slinging Sammy ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think it's nice. What did you say? Baseball.
The Yankees? Still doing it?

Speaker 4 They are tied with the Red Sox and the Mariners atop the wildcard standings right now.

Speaker 4 They got two games against the Tampa Bay Rays down at their Spring training facility, which is the Rays' homefield. And then they go back to New York for a four-game set with Boston.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, it's really heating up.

Speaker 1 It's really starting to heat up.

Speaker 4 That's basically going to determine, you know, hey, is it worth being invested in this team for the last last month of the season when football season is going to be a good thing?

Speaker 1 They don't go on a run. Are they going to get rid of Aaron Boone?

Speaker 1 I was an Aaron Boone fan. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 Todd Verde would have hit the Brooks. Me too.
Who would you bring in? Come on now. And Sean Casey.
Anybody

Speaker 1 would.

Speaker 1 Is Hamstring okay? Torrent hamstring okay?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he has that big device that's like got the seat inside the bear?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he looks like the bear from Dune. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, I've been, Savannah Bananas been popping up. They're smart.
They know when to play. Like, they've been selling out huge huge places.
They know who it is.

Speaker 4 Peyton Hillis just played for the bananas the other night.

Speaker 1 Yes, that guy you wanted. He was beating the hole.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I'm covering him. I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 Just saved his

Speaker 1 kids. Nephew and kids.
Did he hit a dongle or hit a home?

Speaker 4 No, he grounded at the first base, but we grounded later.

Speaker 4 But yeah, he did. He did.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 4 And they're doing the goofy bullshit. It's hard to fucking hit off a guy wearing a cowboy hat on the mound.

Speaker 1 Look at that.

Speaker 1 He should have just trucked that guy. That would have

Speaker 1 He should have trucked that guy and then picked the ump in the face. Boy, is the rest behind the ump.
Watch this. The ump.
Yeah, I keep saying rest.

Speaker 4 The first.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the ninja guy. Oh, yeah.
I remember him. That ump sucks.

Speaker 2 Look at me.

Speaker 1 The ump behind the plate is a big part of the show. He is.

Speaker 4 The dancing ump, I believe, is what they call him.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's not the normal behind the plate. No, it's not.

Speaker 4 The normal ump. Was this against

Speaker 1 behind the legs?

Speaker 1 Is that the part? Yeah, you're the PAs first. Bois.
Yep. How many teams we have now in Savannah Land? I want to say like four.
Four, yeah.

Speaker 3 You got the Firefighters, the Party Animals, the Bananas, and then the Tail Gators.

Speaker 1 Those Tail Gators. Oh, Tailgaters.
Wait, are the Firefighters really like firefighters? I believe so.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I believe.

Speaker 4 That'd be pretty weird to name your team the Firefighters and then not have any former Firefox.

Speaker 1 That's a Stolen Valuer, right? That's a Stolen Power.

Speaker 2 Stolen Valerie.

Speaker 1 Anyone ever go to a game here in person?

Speaker 4 Anybody?

Speaker 4 They were at Victory Field not too long ago, and unfortunately, they'll never come back because they're selling out

Speaker 4 100,000

Speaker 4 stadiums.

Speaker 4 But I think, didn't Mitt maybe went?

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure Mitt was out. Yeah, did you bring his glove? Because you can catch a ball and it's an out.
Yeah. If you catch a fellow ball.
Yeah, you got a black eye. You missed it.

Speaker 3 Oh, no. Two players of the firefighters are firefighters.

Speaker 1 Currently? Yeah. Are the rest of them ex-firefighters? You have some kind of firefighting background, I would hope.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm just a family.

Speaker 2 I like family of Navy Federal.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 like three cousins removed. Boom.
Dad's brother was a firefighter. Thought about being a firefighter.

Speaker 3 They're coached by a firefighter.

Speaker 1 Boom. That's all we need.
That's all we need. Dennis Mustache.

Speaker 3 Coached by...

Speaker 1 Who? What did you say? Dennis Leary. Who's coaching these squads? I ain't just Dennis Leary.

Speaker 1 Dennis Leary.

Speaker 1 Not O Leary. My bad.
The Firefighter Show.

Speaker 1 Rescue Me.

Speaker 3 They are coached by Corpus Christie, Texas Firefighter and USA Baseball Women's National Player, Valerie Perez.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right, Val.
I want to know who comes up with all the choreographed dances and different things that they do. Curious George.
There's so much. Mr.
Banana. Curious George.

Speaker 1 Is that who you're calling?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's yours.
You're saying Curious George is the, what's his name again? Jesse. Jesse.
Yeah, he's the man in yellow.

Speaker 1 He's a marketing genius. Yeah.
Yeah. That's why I'm saying him.
I just listen to him talk about he don't, they're not, it's not about making a profit. They're trying to get a billion fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he doesn't want to make money. Was he on your brother's podcast? I think he probably was back in the day.
He was. I bet he was.

Speaker 1 My brother's been to a few games, I think, actually, now that I think about it. Back when they were the smaller venues.
Now Now, it's too hard to get a ticket, I think.

Speaker 1 You're saying before they were mainstream. Yeah, before, like,

Speaker 1 when they were at the level of the music that Gump listens to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ryan was on them early, I guess. You know how Gump listens to a lot of these bangers, pal, that we haven't heard of? And they're like the underground.

Speaker 1 Gump's listened to them six to 12 months before anyone has ever heard of them. Right, Gump?

Speaker 12 Of course, spot on.

Speaker 1 That's a compliment to you, Gump.

Speaker 1 He's out there finding the new stuff for us. I'm in the weeds, brother.
Gump does have a Spotify, a couple Spotify playlists where i said hey man can you send me that and he has and it works it's good

Speaker 2 that he's gonna probably take over that spot oh you got

Speaker 1 you good with the aux um yeah yeah everyone everyone usually loves when i'm on aux really

Speaker 1 i don't i don't know if i believe it i love you

Speaker 1 d but also you learned how to play euchre

Speaker 1 yes i did you learned you got a i got a shit me and foxy i heard you guys won last week fox you guys won you guys won right big win yeah d butt's playing great right now big win it was nine 9-1.

Speaker 1 We came back 9-9.

Speaker 1 So close. Foxy laid down.

Speaker 1 They were nervous.

Speaker 1 Fox laid it down.

Speaker 1 We didn't even play the last hand because Foxy. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it came up red. And

Speaker 1 fortunately, it just wasn't in the cards for us. But 9-1 comeback.
I'll take that all day. That's a moral victory.

Speaker 1 Well, usually we just have legitimate victories, so sometimes it's nice to see how the other shoe feels, you know. Yeah, I guess.
You can see it. They did battle.
Makes you more relatable. Exactly.

Speaker 1 You understand understand what it's like yeah bring me back down to earth hortal yeah i guess i don't know so do you guys know who's coming here tomorrow uh no no it's a toss-up for us every day it's a surprise for us that's gonna be cool to watch him burst through the door that's what we do how do you know someone if it how do you might be a her yeah i said someone i knew you said him just here

Speaker 2 yeah that's kind of messed up i'll believe you class break

Speaker 1 i'll be interested to see which human comes through that

Speaker 1 or animal or robot what if it was one of like the robot i was watching the robot box somebody on the way here and they said you better watch. Watching videos while you're driving on the interstate.

Speaker 1 What the hell's wrong with you? You said you're going to watch the highlights of the way back when you drive. I had a driver.

Speaker 1 I wasn't texting. That's a lot better than texting, right?

Speaker 1 The driver.

Speaker 3 Listen, his truck, I've seen it. It's got a nice little perch.

Speaker 3 Set your phone right up there. It's fine.

Speaker 1 Pete Famil drove me here, yeah.

Speaker 4 AJ, get off your goddamn shell phone, okay, and talk to me for Christ's sake. I've asked you 100 questions, and you're not answering any of them.

Speaker 1 You know what I do love with Pete? We had him on the other day or last week.

Speaker 1 Whenever we're doing those games, those college football playoff games, which is the best thing ever,

Speaker 1 before the game at some point, I'd be like,

Speaker 1 Pete, what do you got? Pete, hey, for real, like, what are you hearing, buddy? And he would have so many different things. He would hand me a packet, usually a packet.

Speaker 1 The packet was gold. And then he would always have something.
I can't do his voice at all, but he would have like a couple things that were like questions

Speaker 1 of value that you could possibly use.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And it was so good.
I love Pete. Like, I love how much info he has.

Speaker 1 I don't have the brains to hold on.

Speaker 2 He's so plugged. He is.
I talked to this coach. I talked to that guy.
He's parent. I talked to this guy.
He transferred. Like, he knows.

Speaker 3 The best is when we're trying to get information from him during the game.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 He comes over to tie.

Speaker 4 Who was the injury last year? Dylan Sampson.

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry. I fucked up.

Speaker 4 That's not the injury.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 he kept saying he was fine.

Speaker 1 We're like, yeah. No, he's walking to the locker room right now.
Jesus Christ, I fucked up. He is hurt.
I'll go figure it out.

Speaker 1 Best, the best. There's too many people, especially in college football.
Oh, yeah. They move.
Every player and coach moves around too much. There's 500 schools, and how do you keep track of it?

Speaker 2 He does basketball, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's, what, three, four X, D1 basketball school?

Speaker 1 That's wild to think of. Who's going to be the best basketball team this year? Conflict basketball.
Are you con again? Who? Yukon. Oh, okay.
The women's or men's? Both? The men's.

Speaker 1 Men's Iowa basketball, are they? I believe it. Dawn of a new era.
Is it really?

Speaker 1 Good. I can't wait.
I don't have it.

Speaker 1 It's a completely new team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we definitely don't need to talk about college teams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you ask me

Speaker 1 who's last thing it's going to be in February, I'll let you know. Will you? Yeah.
I don't think you will. Yeah, I will.
No. Where's Braun's LeBron's youngest son going again? Arizona.
Arizona.

Speaker 1 When does he start that? Is he already dead? Oh, yeah. I saw the video when he came back.

Speaker 4 He came back and he had a beard. Yeah, and LeBron was clowning him.

Speaker 1 Look at that beard. He grew up, man.
How tall is he now?

Speaker 1 He's big. He's lanky as possible.
These dudes are monstrous. I'm pretty sure he's like 6'4 ⁇ , 6'5 ⁇ .
At least, probably. Because

Speaker 1 when he was,

Speaker 1 I mean, when Bronnie was in college and Bryce was still in high school, he was already talking. How tall is Riley Green?

Speaker 1 6'4's. He looks huge.
Yeah, yeah, he's a big dude. He's super jacked, too.
Yeah. So he lifts a bunch.

Speaker 4 You throw the football damn country miles.

Speaker 1 Can you play QB? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where was that? Jacksonville State. Jacksonville State.
Zito, you know where that is? I'm going to guess Jacksonville. You'd be wrong.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, it's it's an Alabama.

Speaker 1 It is. It's a Q.
I know. The only reason I asked that is because I've been wrong.
I've been wrong my whole life until then. It is.
You'd assume Florida. You would assume.
You would. It's not.

Speaker 1 Speaking of that, I know we're jumping around a little bit before we wrap this sucker up.

Speaker 1 The Jacksonville Jaguars might surprise some people. Okay.

Speaker 1 Ty win. Ty doesn't seem to be.

Speaker 3 You made the statement.

Speaker 1 Let's hear why. Yeah, I think Trevor Lawrence and Liam Comb, I think they might be all right.
Mr.

Speaker 4 Comb.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a diamond.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you're going to be able to do that. Comb's got a chance.
I like Trevor. Obviously, I like what Travis Hunter can do.
I don't know how they're going to use him.

Speaker 1 I don't know what he's going to major. Is he going to major in receiver or major in DB?

Speaker 2 He's going to major.

Speaker 1 I think I've heard you say that before. You like Trevor Lawrence? Lawrence? Yeah.
Yeah, I do actually. Really?

Speaker 3 Yeah, there was a, before

Speaker 3 Aaron signed with the Steelers this year, there was an internet rumor for about a day and a half that Trevor Lawrence was getting trade of the Steelers, and I was pumped.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's wild. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence, I feel like in football circles,

Speaker 2 has kind of become,

Speaker 2 well, that guy's making $55 million. So that quarterback has to get a new contract.

Speaker 2 He hasn't lived up to the hype that he had coming in. He's supposed to be the next one.
But right now, just like a couple other quarterbacks, he has the situation, I think, perfectly built around him.

Speaker 2 He got a decent offensive line. Running backs could be better, but the weapons he'll have on the outside with Ryan Thomas Jr.
and...

Speaker 2 Travis Hunter out there who we expect to I expect him to major in offense early on probably minor in defense. But you know Trevor's age?

Speaker 1 Do I know his age?

Speaker 1 24, 25? Yeah, 25. Okay, he's only 25 years old.
25, third head coach already.

Speaker 2 Yeah, third, you know, so I talked about it yesterday. He started with learning new systems.
He's been learning that.

Speaker 1 But Liam's good, though, right?

Speaker 2 Liam Cohen is a good coach. He's a good play caller.
They got good weapons on. They got good pieces on defense.

Speaker 1 No one's talking about him.

Speaker 1 I like them. They're an individual.
No one talks about him.

Speaker 2 They can compete in. And I think

Speaker 2 we should find out. We should find a lot more out about Trevor Lawrence this year.
Right now, currently, about two days in on Madden, they're the team I use.

Speaker 1 Did you take the Jags?

Speaker 2 They are my football team on Madden.

Speaker 3 So you don't love how Tank and Etienne are running because I heard that come out of your mouth.

Speaker 2 You know, I'll tell you what. Madden, first of all, I think, and I know Madden gets shit on a lot

Speaker 2 for a long time. Every year, this year, the game is pretty fucking good.
It's tougher to run the football.

Speaker 2 You know, so I minor and run. I made sure pass games, spread it out, secure it, have some integrity in my pocket, and find Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas Jr.
down the field.

Speaker 2 But they are a good football team. And

Speaker 2 I may be shopping for a new football team. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 How many kids?

Speaker 2 I'm not a fan of a lot of decisions. What's going on around my four teams right now?

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to shuffle that up. Which four of those.

Speaker 2 It's the

Speaker 2 in no order. Okay.
Colts, Dolphins, Eagles, Chargers.

Speaker 1 So you can... What don't you like that the Eagles have been doing?

Speaker 2 You can.

Speaker 2 I'm happy with the Eagles.

Speaker 2 I'm happy with how he flags fly. They do things right.

Speaker 1 You get the Chargers, too? Look.

Speaker 1 Love, you know, hardball. Okay, so what's this? Year two? Colts in the Finns.
Hardball two, yeah.

Speaker 1 What about the Finns?

Speaker 2 So, you know, Colts Finns, we got.

Speaker 12 The two teams he should actually care about. He's upset.

Speaker 2 We got.

Speaker 1 I mean, you tell me? Yeah, that's what I said.

Speaker 2 And I tell you what, I know you guys aren't a fan of it, but based on my ex-mentions today, there's a lot of people coming over to my side. Hey, D-Bud, I see what you were doing.

Speaker 2 I'm picking up what you're putting down because they're signing up for potential misery for the next few months because you're a fan of one program.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. So you're saying, hey, you need to have multiple TV

Speaker 1 just for the happiness in your life. Depends.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't say everybody, like, if you're a Patriot fan, you're a Steelers fan, you're a Packers fan,

Speaker 2 those, you know,

Speaker 2 you can trust those organizations long term. So maybe you may go through some tough stretches, but they're going to do things right.
They'll turn it around. There are some other shit out there.

Speaker 2 You don't want to be miserable for

Speaker 1 it's true 20 years 30 you don't want to set your kids up for fucking failure come on be better if you are a real fan you actually care you're right you're probably right because it's gonna affect you it definitely will affect your day-to-day terrible dead yeah but red socks didn't win the world series 1918 till 2004 and when they did it was incredible my freshman year college there's a lot of people that died before 2004 that say it wasn't you're probably right no that were big fans of the red socks that's my guess yeah but you know a couple guys died in 2003.

Speaker 12 That's how it goes. I know D.
Butch probably tells you right now it would mean a lot more to him if the Dolphins won a Super Bowl than the Eagles. Oh, hell yeah.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 12 You can be fans of another team if that's what you want to do. I wouldn't do that, but you know it doesn't mean jack shit.

Speaker 2 Well, I was pretty happy last year for Saquon and my Eagles.

Speaker 1 I want to see what the Dolphins do, for real. You live in South Florida.
Yeah. Is anyone talking? Yeah.
People are talking about. Like, are they optimistic? Because it doesn't feel real.

Speaker 1 I don't feel a ton of optimism.

Speaker 2 No, I would not say optimism.

Speaker 1 Do we have the longest playoff win drop right now?

Speaker 1 25, 26, yeah, 26 years.

Speaker 1 26.

Speaker 2 So, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, since the command.

Speaker 2 We don't have

Speaker 2 our cornerback room is bad right now.

Speaker 2 You know, the only thing we can look at and hold on to is Tua and the weapons.

Speaker 1 Is Tyreek all right?

Speaker 4 The Euros is kind of breathing down, too.

Speaker 12 I mean, we'll be able to blitz the shit out of quarterbacks with our front seven, but that's about it on defense.

Speaker 2 You can't blitz without corners.

Speaker 12 Never know. Zero.

Speaker 1 No, I do know.

Speaker 2 Never know. I know still.

Speaker 12 I'll tell you what. I'll bring zero blitz against Danny Dimes week one.
Let's see how it goes.

Speaker 1 You're going to step back and fade away and throw it up. That's what he's going to do.
Tell you what thing.

Speaker 2 That's one thing I can tell you. I know.
You can't blitz. You got to play it safe.
And I mean,

Speaker 1 we got Minka.

Speaker 12 We got Jack Jones. Is Santa Samuel in for a visit?

Speaker 1 Who knows?

Speaker 12 There's still time to add players. Yeah,

Speaker 1 his dad quote tweeted it.

Speaker 3 Jack Jones looked really, really good against Amon Ross Saint Brown that won practice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Come on now.
He's a good locker.

Speaker 1 Come on. We see what you're doing.
It's one-on-one. We're working on things.
It's called practice. What are you talking about? What?

Speaker 1 I'm trying to be positive. Yeah, he's doing good.
Amon Ross is one of the best players. I'm trying to.
You see these Ralphs Amon Ross running on these guys one-on-one with no pass rush?

Speaker 1 That was nasty. Let's get real.
That's like, how do you do 15 moves within like a half a millimeter of a space? I don't know how anyone covers those guys.

Speaker 2 He's so good. They're so good.
I'm excited about Chop. I like Chop.
Yeah, I see.

Speaker 1 I've heard good things.

Speaker 2 He could come in healthy and be a guy. Tyreek, he could have a bounce back year.
Seems like Tua is taking a little more control, a little more command.

Speaker 2 Big year for, and, you know, nobody's probably sitting in that building, but outside looking in, it kind of seems like a hot seat year for Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 2 So, um, and shit, you would say Chris Greer, too.

Speaker 1 And so, we'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 2 But am I optimistic?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cautiously. You're cautiously.
I am. I have to be.

Speaker 2 It's August 19th.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which means he's not. But, you know, like, we got to say we are.
He can read between the lists.

Speaker 1 Just like Bruce and Abdul Carter, all of a a sudden he's not good anymore because he got chipped once.

Speaker 1 No, he got better, actually.

Speaker 3 I saw him setting the edge.

Speaker 1 I did see him setting the edge.

Speaker 1 That's teach tape right there.

Speaker 3 The only Jets highlight all year.

Speaker 1 We're about to ass all night. I mean, it's, yeah, like, maybe he didn't see it.
Weak ass chip.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he ate that motherfucker like barbecue.

Speaker 1 Bitch.

Speaker 1 You're just.

Speaker 1 Yes. I feel like I'm reading the tweets.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's the second. It's a tackle that gets you after that chip.
Everyone gets caught in a chip every once in a while. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Watch him dip and rip rip around the edge if you want to talk about him though. You kidding me?

Speaker 1 Watch him spin inside. Rush upfield, spin back inside.
I'm not blocking her. Everyone's going to get caught everywhere.

Speaker 1 Everybody. I can handle that.
You got to get caught more than you get caught. All right, fellas.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to wrap this sucker up. I appreciate you guys.
All the boys in the back. Thank you guys very much.
Obviously, we had what Daniel Jeremiah, Adam Schefter, Marty Smith.

Speaker 1 Thank you all for coming. Tomorrow we have great guests as well.
A guest co-host that you guys will see. Whatever human comes, you know, knocking down that door, you guys will welcome with open arms.

Speaker 1 Can't can't wait. I will be back in Ohio joining remotely.
Boys, appreciate you, everyone else.

Speaker 1 We're going to take a little bit of a break. We'll be back tomorrow with a guest host.
Can't wait. A lot of energy, I bet, gonna be in here tomorrow.

Speaker 1 It should be a fun show. We'll see you then.
Bye.

Speaker 1 We come back. Are we back?

Speaker 1 We're back. Joke.
April, Late April Fool's joke.

Speaker 1 Put them in here. Put them in here.
Talk about being asleep at the wheel. Yeah, put them in here.
I'm so in the moment. I'm just so in the moment, guys.
Sorry about that. Hey, here we go.

Speaker 1 Team on me. T-Mon3.
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