PMS 2.0 1382 - AQ Shipley, Jeff Passan, Texans GM Nick Caserio, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys continue to check in on all the different training camps underway in the NFL, a few things that are happening in MLB, and everything else going on in the sports world. Joining the show to chat about his new gig as the color commentator for the Arizona Cardinals radio broadcast is 12 year NFL veteran, Super Bowl Champion, and host of In the Trenches, friend of the progrum, AQ Shipley. Next, Senior MLB Insider for ESPN, Jeff Passan joins the show to discuss the heated argument between Rob Manfred and Bryce Harper about a potential salary cap, Emmanuel Clase under investigation for gambling, and what he’s hearing about the trade deadline and what names might get moved. Later, 6x Super Bowl Champion, and current GM of the Houston Texans, Nick Caserio joins the show to chat about the moves they’ve made in the offseason, if he monitors what other teams are doing during training camp, and much much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow from Latrobe, Pennsylvania at Steelers training camp. Cheers.
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Beautiful people

and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunder Gnome.

On this football Tuesday, July 29th, 2025, this program begins now

Football.

It's happening all around the NFL in training camps in 30 cities.

I should have done the math there before I went for that one.

You're right.

32 cities.

You get it.

There are 32 teams that are at training camp right now and trying to build the best team that they possibly can to maybe make a run at the Lombardi.

We were chit-chatting about this before we went live about how, you know, predicting how tough a schedule is going to be for any team at this particular point is a pretty outrageous thing to try and do.

Who knows what injuries are going to come before the season?

Who knows what team is going to turn it on?

I mean, did anybody think that the Washington Commanders are going to be good last year?

Absolutely not.

They almost win the whole damn thing.

Now, obviously, the Philadelphia Eagles are as dominant as they were, and they're certainly maybe in the middle of starting a dynasty as they're combating against, obviously, another dynasty that's happening in Kansas City.

We know a few teams that are going to be great, but there's going to be teams that aren't going to be shite.

There's going to be teams that have been habitual shitty football teams that are going to end up being good this year and going to surprise the hell out of us.

And all those things that are happening at all these camps right now are what lead to that potential success.

So whenever we see a highlight, we should be excited.

Whenever we see these guys working their ass off, we should be pumped up whenever we see them get into a little bit of a scrum and get excited about a little physicality we should be jacked up but we need to understand that there's so much growth from now until the actual season kicking off there's so much development there's so much of finding of a team that can happen in the next few weeks that can turn you from being uh maybe ass into maybe dynasty

okay

that's what training camp's all about now obviously before we get started we got to send our thoughts prayers positive vibes to everybody that was affected in the midtown manhattan shooting at 345 Park Avenue yesterday.

An asshole, a piece of shit, traveled from Nevada all the way over there, walked through Midtown Manhattan with an AR-15, went into the Blackstone and NFL building at 345 Park Avenue, and four people end up dead with another one in critical, stable condition that worked for the NFL.

Absolutely horrendous act, absolutely terrible.

And the fact that they are linking it from a note in his pocket to football being the cause of this is obviously devastating for us in the sporting world and sport community.

We think football is a beautiful sport.

We think it is the best sport on earth.

Yesterday it was obviously a cause in an asshole's mind to go do something terrible and horrific in New York.

We send nothing.

but positive thoughts to everybody that is going to be affected by that.

We saw the Blackstone offices getting boarded up.

Couldn't even imagine the mindset going back into that building, let alone just people at 345 Park Avenue, but everybody in New York, obviously you're around around a lot of people when you're in that city.

Anything can pop off at any time, whenever something like that takes place, where a guy's just walking through the city with an AR-15, perspective is put in real quickly that, hey, we got to be on our P's and Q's out here.

We got to understand that although we are all hoping for a much better society and a perfect world, and I think a majority of humans all feel the same exact way on what Earth and planet Earth and United States could be, there's always going to be people that are,

without a lack of better word, and it was said a lot, evil.

There's going to be evil people.

Now, he said he thinks his brain has CTE and he had mental health issues beforehand and that was obviously being used as a reason for all this to happen.

It can't happen.

Okay, can happen.

And we hope it never does again.

But the reality is it will.

And we got to make sure that we are continuing to provide society with a reason to be happy and peaceful as opposed to continuing to move on worrying about assholes doing asshole things.

With that being said, from football, I don't want to say I speak for football, but we hate the fact that we are being associated with this because all we're supposed to do is make lives better.

That's what sports are supposed to do.

We're supposed to unify people, not supposed to get people to drive across the country with a gun and go kill people they don't know.

Okay, so that's how we feel.

I think that's how everybody from sports feels that I have talked to and absolutely devastating.

We will now be hopefully a little bit of a distraction from all the potential negative happening or a little bit of a celebration of what the football world has going on that isn't that, like training camp and dreams taking place all over the world.

You know, we talked to Peter Schrager yesterday and he said that the NFL network execs tell you that August is actually their most watched time.

And obviously the NFL network doesn't have playoff games and everything like that in January and December and February, obviously the Super Bowl, which is when everybody else's numbers are through the roof because they have the games and everything like that.

But everybody watches the NFL network in these training camps because every team has optimism.

Every team has a highlight coming out.

Every team has a new player doing something.

It's like, wait a minute, that's the missing.

That's the missing piece we needed right there.

We go.

There's a chance that this could be the best year in the history of the NFL.

And it's all starting right now.

The talks table's here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Hey, here's some baseball stuff happening.

Yeah.

Bryce Harper with his beautiful hair.

Great.

Handsome face.

Oh, yeah.

Incredible baseball resume.

Yeah.

Okay.

And name.

Manfred came in and said, hey, boys, how are we going?

You're sorry, Cat.

Hey, hey, we're going.

Bryce said,

get the fuck out of here.

We don't want to hear you negotiating with us.

We don't want to hear because allegedly there was something about going around a PA as well.

And how is that whole thing going to go?

I heard some rumblings at the all-star

when I was talking to some of the players about some of their fears and everything like that.

Literally, right?

How is it all-star?

Yeah, embedded in it.

This feels like there's some big shit right around the corner here for baseball.

Like, very, very big.

We're talking about baseball being in a surge.

Okay, that's what we've been talking about.

And I think we all, nine-year-old NFL vet Darius J.

Butler, I think we all agree baseball is doing a little something.

Yeah, biggest stars showing up in the biggest moments, and that's when you get the casuals in.

That's what any big-time sports win.

That's what the run, the kind of run the MLB has been on.

Home run derby up like five, six percent.

I forget what it was.

I mean, every baseball good right now.

Yeah, but then if you forecast to the future in this moment, it's like, oh, no.

Is this all for naught?

Are we about to take a massive step backwards and they're not going to be able to get a new CBA done?

Is the salary cap going to get implemented and people are going to get pissed?

Are the players going to not only maybe get struck like a strike, but are they going going to get held out, locked out of this entire thing?

I mean, it feels like there's some real shit brewing.

When does this all happen?

And we're going to have jet passing on at 1245, 1240-ish.

This feels real for baseball, yeah?

Yeah, I think so.

I mean, like, it didn't really happen, but it kind of started with the COVID year when they were, because they basically were saying, like, hey, if you're one of these players who's making a bunch of money, you're going to have to take like 60% of your salary because we're having less games.

And all those guys were like, no, absolutely not.

So obviously, you get guys who are signing $750 million, or a guy like Bryce Harper, a judge, they're making $400 million.

Like, if a salary cap is implemented, guess what?

Those guys are going to be standing to make a lot less money, probably, you would think, because teams aren't going to be able to pay these exorbitant numbers for one player.

And let's just say the stars of the game, when it's been played one way for forever, they're not all of a sudden going to be the ponies who just say, like, yeah, go ahead.

You can cut my salary in half.

That's fine.

Half.

That's probably dropping it.

I mean.

Yeah, I mean, some of these guys stand to lose like a lot of millions of

hundreds of millions of dollars.

And they're just, they're not going to go quietly into the night as I laugh because, like, that is, that is the reality of the situation.

Yeah.

That is the real deal.

If a salary cap gets put in place, they'll start putting percentages on each player.

Hey, your best hitter gets this percentage of the salary cap.

This pitcher gets this, just like football does.

And that's going to obviously cap things.

I assume it will make a lot of ass teams more competitive because if there was a cap, there would be a floor for the ball.

People would spend the floor, right?

So we'll talk to Passon.

We'll talk talk to Passer in a little bit, see what he's got going on.

Anything else happening in baseball?

Oh, yeah, there's still some gambling allegations.

What?

More negativity?

Yeah, same team, too.

So it's kind of, we'll see what he goes.

I don't know what's going on in Cleveland, specifically in the bolt

in Cleveland, but they're saying a lot of these guys are very suspect right now.

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

So like Emmanuel Klasse, who two years ago, he was like arguably the best closer in baseball, and he's just been bad this year.

And then, so this comes out that says, like, we think he might be, we don't know yet.

He's placed on administrative leave.

There could be a gambling situation.

So then some of the sleuths go out and like look at some of his pitches.

Yeah, there's this situation where he had what, 22 pitches with an 0-0 count with the bases empty.

And this guy went through and was basically like, wow, a lot of these are uncompetitive.

How about Ahan Rinta here going, could have made a lot of money if we knew what was happening here.

Pretty obvious is what they're saying.

Now, these are all allegations, obviously.

Right.

And the ball can hold onto your finger a little bit longer and he can throw it in the dirt.

We watch people go out there for the first pitch all the time, put it in the dirt.

I tried to do it, put it in the dirt a little bit.

Right.

So we could see how that could happen.

Right.

But, man, whenever there's an allegation, which is what this is, just an allegation.

Correct.

These are just allegations.

Okay.

I think there's been some that have been come to fruition and people have been banned forever.

Correct.

But there is just an allegation here.

All the sports where there's allegations on these players, not only are you guys being told you're cheats,

now you got people going through your entire career looking for your most ass players

and they are good at finding them.

Yeah, they'll find you.

I don't know if it's Grok.

I don't know if it's Mr.

GPT or Mr.

GPT.

I don't know who it is, but if somebody's getting an allegation against them that they're throwing games, people are automatically thinking that that's a negative.

So whenever these guys look worse than they've ever looked before, that is whenever they were giving it away.

That's a tell.

And they find them.

Oh, yeah.

And I'll tell you what, guys look like ass.

Yeah.

And every sport.

Fans of the Guardians who are like, this guy was lights out last year and he fucking sucks this year.

So yeah, I I can go find what's going on with this guy.

He's also one of like the biggest pieces to potentially get traded.

And so, I have no idea.

He's been placed on administrative leave, I think, to like the end of August.

Yeah, obviously, Eugenios Juarez,

he's the other big piece who might get traded.

He got hit in the hand last night.

X-rays were negative, so he doesn't have anything broken.

That's scary.

But, oh, yeah.

Happened to Shohei, right?

Well, and the big thing with him was the Tigers, they're playing the Tigers, and they're saying, like, the Tigers are the team who need him.

Like, they might, so like, what, what a just, you know,

yeah the universe working against you we might want to trade for this guy let's drill him in the hand and break his oh classic tigers let's go to one half of the hammer

cowboys ap tone hey football camps all over the place we're going to be in st.

Vincent College tomorrow live at Pittsburgh Steelers training camp the guest list from what I'm hearing is Pretty outrageous.

Let's go.

So the Pittsburgh Steelers, first of all, we're very thankful that I think a lot of people in that building and on that team watch the show.

Yes.

Like I think they are, they understand it.

Obviously, we are from Pittsburgh, so we are talked about by, I think, their friends in the neighborhoods in which they live, whether good or bad, whatever the case.

So we've kind of been forced into the Pittsburgh Steelers people's lives.

Now, granted, I'm a former pump passing kick champion, national champion

for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

On that field.

I don't know how many Pittsburgh Steelers representatives won the national pump passing.

Legitimately, I might be the only one.

Whatever the case,

they know us.

Congratulations.

I thought Billy Gardea won one.

Okay.

Sam Bank.

He did after.

No, no, he did the adult.

Oh, that was Andy Reed.

Andy Reid did do that.

He had a helmet on.

That was a different punt pass and kick than I did.

We did not have full pass.

Old school.

That punt passing kick contest was built for me, though.

Now that you guys kind of know me a little bit.

Yeah.

That was a contest that was literally built for me.

My mom forced me to do it.

She was like, hey, you got it.

This is.

We're doing it.

Mom drove me to this thing.

She like set it all up, did the whole thing, and immediately just beat the shit out of her.

I mean, the little regional one, which was held at a tiny little school that was in New Kensington, I think, which is next to Plum down the road a little bit.

That's where the Steelers ringer would go.

Yeah, the guy who won.

I guess the guy won from like...

eight to nine, 10 to 11, 12 to 13.

I was 14 at this time, I think.

And

the kid that won every year went to this one because there's only like four or five people competing at that.

So like he knew the game.

Then all of a sudden I show up to that thing.

Hey, this kid's not supposed to be here.

Just bar a certificate on this guy.

Lucy Burger.

But that punt pass and kick thing was literally built for me.

Like that is all the skills that I have basically when it comes to football.

I can throw the shit out of a ball, I can kick the shit out of a ball, and I can punt the shit out of the ball.

And it just so happens to be that you can go to a Pittsburgh Steelers game if you're good at these three things.

And me, Jason, damn, got a chance to go sit right on the fucking field of the Pittsburgh Steelers game.

And then we got to go to a playoff game that the Pittsburgh Steelers were in just because they just so happened to be playing against the Tennessee Titans.

So it was a hell of a run.

Thank you to Punt Pass and Kick people for putting that together.

Hey, if you got a huge leg and a big arm, you can go watch NFL, you can go watch Steeler games.

That was, you got it.

We go and do that.

So the Steelers know us, is what we're saying.

I was reminded yesterday,

biggest Steelers fan I know, a friend of mine, Kalena, she actually sent me a video that's going around.

I guess I forgot you shot a universe ball for them.

Yeah.

Win the Super Bowl.

Win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, so the Steelers know us.

That's the song with all the boys singing this over.

Yeah, the Steelers know us.

Oh, no, obviously.

By far.

By far.

Just pissed off.

Tone so bad.

So bad.

It was so bad right now.

Yo, Ton waffles from time to time.

I know, I know, I know.

Sometimes he goes to the players.

Sometimes he's with us.

This is she's Steelers through and through.

Stillers.

Does she have a microphone to talk about it every single day?

No.

So we don't know.

That's always the logo.

Anyways,

we appreciate the Steelers.

I think the Steelers understand who we are.

And they've offered up everybody everybody basically in the building for the show.

So I think guys are going to just walk by too.

It's like headset, we're going to have headset on because practice is starting at like two o'clock.

So they have a walkthrough I think that ends at noon and then they got practice at two.

So it's like

it should be a really good setup is what we're saying.

It should be a very cool day tomorrow for Pittsburgh Steelers fans, NFL fans, and for us.

This is wild that we get a chance to experience this.

The last time I was at this was a little boy with my dad at training camp.

It's crazy.

Doesn't surprise me that a lot of people are coming through.

I talked to someone in the building who said the excitement for tomorrow starts at the very, very top.

And when that happens, it kind of resonates through the building so that, you know, everyone, everyone is very excited for tomorrow.

D.Butch and I

sat.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

About four down from the Rooney family at Mr.

Ursay's funeral.

We have no idea how we ended up in those rows.

We are in the NFL owners' rows.

Literally.

Yeah, literally.

They're predicting the future.

Shout out to the Cardinals, by the way.

Hell yeah.

Shout out to the Cardinals.

Looking good.

Owner of the Cardinals.

Bidwell.

Great man.

Yeah, Michael.

Yeah, he's a great man.

He sat right here, right next to me at that funeral, and

got a chance to chit-chat with him.

Who was to my

whatever it was?

The Rooney was a couple down.

Everybody was there, basically, and they were all incredibly nice to us.

And the Arizona Cardinals guy was so nice.

And we have had to say things about the Arizona Cardinals

in the past in their facility and everything numerous times.

I think he's boy, right?

Yes.

I think he's so, I think he kind of understands what it is.

The future of the Arizona Cardinals could be incredibly bright.

The future of the Arizona Cardinals will have a voice on it.

The future of the Arizona Cardinals, ladies and gentlemen, and the bird gang will be led by none other than Moon Tyneship Gray, Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champion.

The man who somehow accomplished the feat of playing NFL offensive line with an arm length less than 30 inches.

That doesn't mean anything else about any other parts of his body.

Well.

But we have seen his gut.

We can assume some things.

Host of In the Trenches, ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley.

29 and 7-8.

They just wouldn't give it to you, huh?

What I lacked in arm lengths, I gained in other places.

You see what I'm saying?

I gained in head size, stomach size, and other things, you know?

Ass.

Yeah.

Ass size.

Yeah.

And you got those weird shoes you wear, too.

Those big fat shoes.

You know, those Hoka things.

Yeah.

Size eight.

Yeah.

I forgot about that.

Yeah.

Moved.

Moved on.

Moved on from Hokas.

I'm on the speed land.

Remember the

elf blood?

Oh, yeah.

Somehow found worse.

Yeah, they are worse shoes.

Sorry, to look at whoever created that, you did a great job.

AQ loves them.

They're the most comfortable thing he's ever worn.

Yeah, I thought we were all, I thought AQ was buying all.

Yeah, I thought that's it.

Yeah, we're all happy.

I'm happy then.

I'm happy my eyes don't gotta see it every day, but Wednesdays.

That's all I'm happy about.

Let's make an announcement.

You made an announcement yesterday.

You are color commentating for the Arizona Cardinals this season.

Congratulations.

Practice.

Yeah, baby AQ.

What does this mean?

What does this mean?

Have you always wanted to do color commentary?

How experienced are you in this world?

And how'd this all come together?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I've ever, that's been a dream of mine per se, but I mean, what I do on your show is essentially that for offensive line across the league.

And now it's just calling it live at games just for the Arizona Cardinals, which will be really cool.

And it'll help me with the in-the-trenches segment.

Obviously, I'll get a first-hand look at the Arizona Cardinals boots on the ground at every game.

And

Arizona Cardinals will be playing other teams.

You're going to have to look into the other teams.

I get it, but

I got to be a voice to the Arizona Cardinals.

I got to kind of be the homer.

Oh, every homer.

Okay, here we go.

Okay, so we lost a little bias

or we gained a little bias from AQ.

You also will be doing Wednesdays in the trenches, which we are excited about.

So you're going to have a great football season this year.

We're pumped for you.

Congratulations.

Coming off a great offseason as well.

Training, guys.

You know, he's been training guys.

How many guys did you have this offseason?

I had 13 NFL offensive linemen come out to the Phoenix area and get to work in the shipyard.

It's been awesome.

The shipyard is

a jolly night.

13's a lot of dudes.

Yeah.

Especially because he doesn't have a facility.

I mean, he's got a gym in his backyard.

He doesn't flush the toilet.

It's a nice backyard.

Yeah, very nice.

It's got a trampoline in the ground.

So cool.

So cool.

You probably don't hit bottom anymore.

How thin you are.

You probably used to really crash that.

Great backyard.

But you're training these guys now you're a color commentator you're hosting in the trenches you're literally on a trophy the trenching everybody's doing great for you aq

all right let's talk a little bit about football now let's talk about what's going on around the league philadelphia eagles still the best offensive line in football so we should look for them to repeat or is there another group that we should maybe be uh talking about and maybe giving a little bit more love to a you

know i'm a big fan of the philadelphia eagles i think they got a great offensive line coming back i think campaign had a really good offensive line I think losing worst for a couple weeks is going to hurt them early on.

When you lose your stalwart left tackle, I think that hurts a little bit.

But, you know, you can look at the Buffalo Bills.

They're going to have a really good group.

You can look at the Pittsburgh Steelers.

I think they're an up-and-coming.

Really?

That's a big question.

That's a huge question.

I like their group, and I think continuity is a huge, huge, huge part of offensive line play.

And when you get the same group of guys coming back, young guys to boot, probably spent the whole offseason together.

I'm getting videos from your boys and pictures from your boys showing me Mason McCormick and Zach Frazier riding everywhere together on the same golf cart.

So, you know, I feel real good about this group.

I like the groups they got.

Baltimore Ravens got a great group.

They got Voorhees coming back from injury.

Didn't really play a whole lot the last couple years.

He was injured coming out of college.

He didn't get the start last year, but I think he's going to provide some depth to that Baltimore Ravens group.

So

I think the Chargers got a good group.

They paid their guy, obviously, Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt, two of the best tackles in football.

So there's some good groups.

And then obviously, there's going to be some other groups that kind of sneak into this.

Who knows?

I mean, maybe the Denver Broncos put together a nice group.

I like their group on paper.

So Washington.

Washington,

I like Washington.

I like tons.

So I hate the fact that they lost Sam Cosby.

He'll probably miss most of the year from the playoff ACL.

But

they should have a decent group as well.

I mean, it's going to be interesting.

I actually like the Arizona Cardinals' group.

I think they've got one of the top 10 groups.

We know

we saw a tweet yesterday that we know that you think that with the Arizona Cardinals until you don't do what the tweet said you'd do yesterday, which we completely understand.

By the way, you're gonna be on that plane, he's gonna be on their plane, he's gonna be flying on the Cardinals' team planes.

You know, that's what happens here after what he said, huh?

So, you're gonna hear a lot of complimenting of the Arizona Cardinals.

If I had to guess,

I would not want to walk in the best line of football.

Coach is so smart,

Oh my gosh.

Oh, he's been

geniuses.

Yeah.

You walk on that plane and the last thing you want to do is like,

well, all right.

I'm going to sit right up here.

Hey, Kyler.

Kyler, why does my credential not work anymore?

Why is my credential not flashing green anymore?

I'm excited for you to be biased towards that.

I bet you they are too.

They finally get somebody.

I can't wait till he's on the team plane.

He's watching film and he's walking back to coach.

Hey, GC.

Hey, you should run this.

We should run a little fucking.

Look at one of these.

We run a little bit.

Look, he's good at this, I think.

I think he is what he wants to do.

You got to keep your mouth shut on that fucking plane.

You're not remembering.

The color commentator.

You're right.

Let's not do it.

Hey, let's not embarrass the program out there.

Now,

if they also signed a consultant here, that's an interesting dilemma.

I mean, we draw up a couple blitzes.

We got ideas, too.

So maybe we're coaching.

All right, let's not.

Once again, we don't need to mock a cardinal.

Sure, no, no.

That's what this is not about.

You brought up Slater getting paid.

There's another guy who got paid, Bernard.

Bennett.

You know, I saw that.

What do you think about Bernard here,

Raymond?

Now, I think there's a chance, we have not looked this up,

he is the first

offensive lineman in the history of the NFL.

I just thought of it.

Who?

Milada.

Does he wear them?

What?

The Guardian cap?

Yeah.

I thought he had one on, yeah.

Jordan Milotto?

I thought he had the guardian cap or the

already-made different helmet, whatever it's called.

Two different, very two different things.

We're talking about it.

That's what I'm saying.

He's a trailblazer.

Smart guy.

I mean, this is groundbreaking.

Oh, that's like what he is.

That guy from Pittsburgh who got signed that no one likes.

James Daniels, he's not on those tutors.

$100 million?

I didn't say no one.

Not that.

All right, let's get back to it.

Did you know this guy?

I think I've seen him play.

I appreciate the fact that he marched gigantic human being.

Ballard loves him, obviously.

All reports out of Coach Training Camp,

Anthony Richardson's playing football very well.

Anthony Richardson prepared for football.

Which makes us

careers.

We are believe ours.

This guy had a guardian cap on playing left tackle, got paid $100 million.

I think that is something that you would never...

think about, you know, just in the entire offensive line space.

But this is great news for offensive linemen that Raymond's getting $100 million, right?

Isn't this good?

It's great news for offensive line.

It should be a mandatory 10% discount if you if you're a guardian cap helmet guy.

He doesn't wear it all the time.

He just saw a clip.

He didn't have it on.

I think he did it for his teammates.

Okay.

That was nice of him.

But no, I mean, he's a good football player, and he came out a couple years ago.

And this is what you love to see, right?

You heard Howie Roseman's interview, you know, about sign develop or whatever it was, draft, develop, sign.

And I think that's a, I think that's a key piece that a lot of teams, if you want to get good, that's what you have to do.

You have to take care of your own.

You look at the good teams that have done well.

They draft their guys.

They keep them.

They sign them.

It's not like, hey, we're going to constantly try and redefine our team through free agency.

And when you reward a guy that maybe wasn't a first-round pick, he gets drafted a little bit later.

He kind of works his ass off.

He climbs the ladder, becomes a starter, puts good stuff on tape.

He's good in the locker room.

And then you pay the shit out of him.

I mean, this is exactly what you want to see.

And this is good by the Colts.

This has been really good signing.

They got a good group.

They let some guys go in free agency, but building through their own is a good step.

Congrats, Bernard.

He's been in.

Good work, Bennett.

We don't know if it's Bernard or Bennett.

That's how the boys have been saying it, but nonetheless, happy they paid him.

They must really love him.

And also, Carly, Kalen, Casey, this is probably the first one, right?

Yeah.

Yep.

First big deal that has had to kind of be like, yep.

So they're investing in offensive line.

I like that.

I appreciate that.

Future looks nice, especially with these highlights coming out of AR.

If AR can take a hit this year, which is possible, if he, you know, can avoid and figure out how to run without getting like absolutely clobbered every single tackle, like there's a chance he's a guy.

Everything that we have thought he could potentially be, we've seen on these highlights.

So he got a tackle paid.

Obviously, we lose Ryan Kelly.

We also lost the

fries in there.

So it's kind of a mixed-match group, that new group.

Hopefully they're off and running.

We'd be excited to see it.

Congrats to Bernard.

Now, let's talk about an offensive line group that got exposed on the biggest stage.

Go ahead, D-Butt.

Yeah, I saw a Colts group.

It didn't look that mixed-match when I saw it.

But good, good.

Are you talking about offensive line?

Yeah, yeah, good, strong group.

Two years in a row.

Powerful group.

But speaking of two, it is a Caucasian bunch.

Certainly.

Ballard's got a type.

Big, big, solid shot.

Ballard has the type.

Yeah, hey, I like it.

But AQS, the Chiefs.

I mean, it was all white.

They came out of the woods.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

They came walking out of the woods.

Like the white walkers.

I think George Foster said, I ain't seen this in a long time.

I think that's what George Foster was.

One of the greatest followers on it.

What did he call it?

One of the greatest followers on X, George Foster, former offensive lineman in the NFL.

Black men.

Haven't seen this in a long time.

I didn't know it was.

2025?

Hey, good group, though.

The group.

Just pay Raymond.

Yep.

And another guy that got paid.

Guy, you've been very, very high on Trey Smith.

You know, Creed Humphreys in the center as well.

But the outside of that offensive line for the Chiefs, are they going to be okay?

That was obviously a glaring weakness in the Super Bowl against the Eagles.

Are the Chiefs O-line going to make that step and be okay and be able to protect 15 this year?

We've been saying the same narrative since 2020 when we played him in the Super Bowl when I was down in Tampa Bay, and it's been the tackles.

It's been the bookends.

Can we fix the tackle situation?

Their interior three is as good as anybody right now.

Creed Humphrey, Trey Smith, obviously they let Tooney walk, but they're moving the

left tackle that got benched last year in the first game.

They're moving him inside, giving him a try.

I'm not even going to try and pronounce his name.

The kid from Bingsley.

The one, yeah, there it is.

So, yeah, so yeah.

Um, but the key to this thing is this, and I said this when we spoke after the draft.

I thought they got a top 10.

Kids names Kingsley, Kingsley,

Sue Matiaya, something like that.

It is, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, great names, and maybe the best kids that they've got out of English language.

Sorry.

The kid that got out of Ohio State, I said this after the draft whenever you had me on the show.

I said he was a top 10 pick.

Josh Simmons, left tackle.

The clips of him coming out is he is a top 10 pick if he doesn't get hurt against Oregon last year.

They get him with literally one of the last picks of the first round, and he is going to be their franchise left tackle.

for the next 10 to 12 years.

And they got an absolute steal with him.

The clips coming out of him, here it is.

Look, he's just shutting guys down and he makes it look smooth he's throwing guys like a little dog

yeah he's got a little dog in him i mean he was arguably the best tackle in the draft before he gets hurt he gets to go late to kansas city in the first round they got an absolute steal it was an injury that a lot of teams were concerned with but i mean he's young he's coming back he looks fierce he's smooth as can be he's athletic he's strong he's got the size this could be a key piece for the kansas city chiefs modern technology modern science too with all these injuries other than being young and everything like that being a dog and rehab how we have everything set up uh nowadays i think you see teams take those types of gambles a little bit more he's completely healthy beginning of camp i don't know how much but you know yeah you're probably projecting that i assume at draft time hey he's going to be completely healthy by camp uh do you still know how to do it yeah

Deal.

You talked about him very loudly.

You're like, hey, the steal of the draft is this guy, this guy, this guy.

And of course, who gets him?

Fucking Chief.

And it's an offensive lineman as opposed to being like a 4-2 guy the steel of the draft is somehow an offensive lineman and who is it veach and reed yet again it's unbelievable how great teams continue to be great okay now speaking of uh tackles i don't think he will be doing this ever in his career but it's certainly becoming a trend go ahead tone yay q we talked about kingsley moving inside for the chiefs after he was drafted as a tackle out of by you evan neal of the giants is now moving into guard obviously makai bechton did it last year for the eagles do you think this is a lot of teams copying what the eagles did because because the Eagles did it and because Stoutland did it?

And

how pissed do you think guards are going to be that every highly drafted tackle who doesn't work out is now going to get a chance at guard over top of them?

Well, listen, it's a last resort move, and that's what happens.

When you start to

not play nearly as well as they think you're capable of obviously drafting you in the first round, the initial move is, hey, let's just move him into guard.

It cracks me up whenever I was upstairs with every team.

It's always like, hey, well, if he's not working out at guard, we'll just move him into center.

If he's not working out tackle, we'll just move him to guard.

It's like, it doesn't always work that way.

Listen, at the end of the day, Makai Bechton is a mammoth human being.

And it just happened to be that he walked in to the Philadelphia Eagles with one of the best offensive line coaches, with one of the best schemes, and a scheme that fits where you don't have to do very much except just run off the football, right?

When you are in a zone scheme, I mean, you can run off the football and get your get your body in the way of people and get your hands on people.

And you're 6'6, 6'7, 6'8, and 340 340 pounds makes it look easy.

But if you're in a system where it requires, hey, you're going to be one-on-one backside quite often in this past scheme, and now all of a sudden you couldn't do it at tackle.

Now we're moving you into guard, it may not work out the same way as it did for Beckton as it will for Neil.

He's been criticized heavily since he's got in there.

This is a make-or-break time.

Like he's got to make it work right now at guard, or it's a wrap for him with the New York Giants.

If you get two six foot six guys, six, you know, whatever tackle size used to be, first what guard used to be first what center used to be if everybody's just going to be golias that can move like we got to see that jordan milata guy at the esps yeah

and he can kick us i mean he's so athletic fast it's just like it's outrageous like if he had to go into guard and be a pooling guard he can figure it out if he had to do it i assume there's going to be more athletic bigger men as we continue to evolve here if offensive lines are just going to become 6'6

straight i mean there already has been i get dallas cowboys back in the day, I think, used to be known for that, right?

Yeah, they used to do like Larry Allen.

The Raiders used to do that.

The Eagles did that last year.

Obviously, Lane and Mackay next to each other is just like outrageous.

Winderbomb aside, the Ravens were massive.

And it works.

Like, hey, you win.

Now, can you find all the guys that can fit in together?

That's why the Philadelphia Eagles thing is so special because it's like they're all goats and they're all and they all just get along great and they all would do whatever the hell a stout tells them to do.

They're all paid.

And they're all paid.

Yeah.

And and they got Saquon as their running back.

It doesn't hurt.

And it's like.

That's a good run.

We can extend some careers around here.

Yeah, we can move some bodies over here.

Offensive line, most important position in all of sports.

Offensive line, also most hand-to-hand combat in every single play.

Go ahead, Con man.

Yeah, AQ right now, Josh Simmons, you know, you just mentioned him being a mean cuss.

He also threw a mean right hook that got caught on camera today during practice.

Every year, the training camp, the pads come on, and we get these sweet fights.

I can't wait for joint practice season as well.

But as an offensive lineman, how difficult is it not to fight every single play?

And then how do you know when your coach wants you to fight to show a little fire?

Yeah, I don't think your coach ever is sitting there condoning fighting because I think as long as your coach played, he understands how tiresome it is to get into a fight.

That's what people don't realize.

If you're in the middle of training camp, like Deebuts, you know this, Pat, you know this.

Like you've seen every offensive lineman they're just trying to make it to september like hey let's like let's just let's just get to september and if we're sitting here and you know we got a 30 play call it period coming up and it's basically full-tilt one versus one scrimmage and the play the period before it's a blitz period and this

defensive tackle keeps putting his hand in your throat and all of a sudden you swipe it down he throws a jab and now you're in a full-tilt fight I mean, you're seeing stars around your head for the next hour.

And you're sitting there cramping up and you're sitting there like,

I think I'm going to retire.

I think I'm going to retire right now.

You know, so whenever that happens, you hope the fight ends short so you can get back.

But man, if it's a long one, I mean, there's been times where, I mean, my legs are dead.

I'm trying to call timeout.

I'm trying to fake an injury to get out of this thing.

Like it is, it is the absolute worst thing because you get so tired.

Your legs get heavy, your arms get heavy, and you're already on jet lag because training camp, that's what it is.

You get put on jet lag four days in.

That's essentially what it is.

You're sleep deprived.

You're waking up for drug tests.

You're going through two practices a day.

And I know that, you know, one of them's a walkthrough, but it's still, they're long days.

Meetings drag you all the way until nine o'clock at night.

You can't sleep because you lost a rep in one-on-one.

And all night, that's all you're sitting there thinking about.

You're waking up at 2 a.m.

I'm waking up at 2 a.m.

trying to figure out an excuse on

how I'm going to tell my coach what happened during that one-on-one and I look like an asshole.

So all these things are combining during training camp, and then you get into a fight in day five or the second day of training camp.

It's like, oh, it's going to be a a long day it's gonna be a long day i appreciated the fact that uh i didn't get i didn't have to do any of that well sure you know that you get involved no scuffle uh i did i i've i've been in um

i've been in two training camp scuffles they come over to our area you know where we're standing we're we're sitting and it's just like a push push push push so that helmet goes on immediately and then it's hey

you got to be on the defense

and vinny was on the offense yep so we literally just faced each other

What a hell.

We made a mockery out there.

We made quite a mockery out of the situation.

But if you were to put on the film, when it came over to us, helmets went on and we were in the scrum, which you have to be.

Boys brought in.

That's a whole nother thing.

If you watch film and the offensive line is getting in a fight and there's three offensive linemen that are not in with the offensive line, I think you could probably pick out who's probably not going to be part of that offensive line group.

I think early in training camp, you could probably figure out these three not probably going to be with the group.

Like there's so much more that's going on in those fights as well.

Obviously, you're very tired, but the team is watching that too.

The scouts, coaches.

And the camera, they keep the cameras rolling.

Roll it.

Keep it rolling.

So, yeah, it's better be in that frame.

And, like you said, some people are bullshitting just to be in there, just to be, but you better show up.

Yeah,

have to show up.

Well, I learned that at West Virginia because people wanted to fight our team every warm-up.

It was just,

it felt like, and maybe our team, you know,

was a part of it as well.

Dogs,

yeah, we had dogs through and through.

The The whole team was dogs, I think, if you were to look back at it.

I have to show face.

That was my immediate first reaction.

I didn't grow up in a football world, but a little standoff happens.

I think it was our DBs, and I think it was probably, who knows, on the other team.

And they're yelling and chirping.

And I'm within,

I'm 10 yards away.

I'm doing my shit, though.

I am currently warming up.

Have to turn around.

Have to show face, have to yell.

Then Rich Rod, obviously, does a full, hey, don't be fucking scared to get in there, you know.

You know, with the whole talk about me, it's like, okay, I did the right thing.

Okay, yeah, I didn't know what the football world is, but yeah, you always got to show up for your teammate.

Have to.

Here's Josh Shimmy.

My favorite.

Go ahead.

My favorite thing is the O-line coach in meetings, like afterwards, right?

Like, he's obviously echoing the message from the head coach, right?

So he's sitting there.

He's like, all right, boys, we can't have fights.

I like that you got stuck up for your teammate.

I like this.

Let's watch that clip back.

Let's watch that.

They're like breaking it down.

They're like, good jack.

Good over here.

My man's grabbing for a helmet.

Like, I mean, we are breaking this thing down like it's a UFC fight.

It's pretty awesome.

Well, the thing is, the uppercut seemingly the right play because it's up under there, but the pads.

Yeah.

Because

you can catch the pads there.

So that's not as easy.

The helmet grab, always the play for the losing participant.

That is always normally who's going first.

Or it's first act of aggression straight to the helmet.

Here we have Josh Simmons actually got into a fight.

Here's Mark Palouse's video uh he's filming it from his camera i think so it's hard we get you'll see it though there's josh finishing a play jab boom what i like that what what

what and then guy grabs his helmet takes it off he's still in there where's the team i like it

where's the team it's kind of by itself

i didn't like that I didn't like that.

Now, that play might have gone.

I didn't like that either, but my man stood in there.

He stood in the pocket like Iliad Teporia.

Yes, he did, like Iliad Deporia.

yes he did he max hallowaid that thing

he said we'll do it's right here on your guys' side let's assume the offense is on the complete opposite side of the field let's assume that he's on a complete opposite side of the field and also let's understand that this is very normal or the training if rookie's a little too overzealous well and also he's got a great yeah that was fat

he's worked on that i think he's been in a in a gym before because the placement too that would have been yeah

now with a helmet

not the greatest move but he felt it yeah there's a rattle in there All right, before we get out of here, final question.

It's a good one.

Let's take you back to college.

Go ahead, Todd.

Yeah, AQ, listen.

I know you are a Penn State nitty line through and through, okay?

And I'm just curious.

We heard James Franklin's comments.

He basically said, hey, listen, if Notre Dame played in the conference and had to play Blue Bloods like Purdue, like we do, then they

wouldn't have beat us in the Orange Bowl.

We would have went to the national championship.

With that being said.

Yeah, exactly.

So with that being said, do you think, because a lot of people think Penn State might be a national title contender this year, maybe going to go.

Do you agree with that?

Do you think it's bullshit that Penn State has these murders where they're playing Auburn and Purdue and Louisiana, Lafayette, and West Virginia and teams like that?

Or do you think that James Franklin's maybe out on an island a little bit here?

But overall, how are you feeling about the Nittany Lions going into this season?

I think Notre Dame's schedule of yesteryear was a lot tougher.

I mean, recently they're playing Duke.

They're playing Stanford.

Stanford isn't what it used to be.

They got one of the.

If they weren't to the ACC, that's who they would be playing.

They would.

They need to come over to the Big Ten where we've.

Oh, so James.

So James wants them in the Big Ten.

That's what he wants.

I think that's what it is.

I think that's what it is.

That's a good way to recruit them.

Great angle.

That is not a bad angle.

Great angle.

I love what James Franklin is doing.

Hey, you're both during a season.

Sorry, ass.

Bunch, come on in here.

Yeah, I'm sure he's signing up to play them every year.

You think James Franklin?

Yeah, absolutely not.

Can I give you my take on the Penn State Nitty Lions?

I think what happened at the end of that game against Notre Dame for Drew Aller was the best thing that could happen for Drew Aller.

Okay?

I think it's terrible for Penn Staters.

Obviously, terrible.

Terrible for Drew Aller.

Horrendous that that is on his resume.

But I think that is a perspective putter for Drew Aller all offseason.

Nobody's talked about him.

We've talked about so many other quarterbacks.

So many.

Drew Aller's six foot six.

Drew Aller can throw the ball forever.

Drew Aller can run.

Scott Moxie.

He's an Ohio guy.

And then he had what?

His worst thing of the season, basically, was his last play.

It's like that, I think, motivation, perspective, chip on shoulder.

I think Penn State still has all those things.

And also, I think you guys still have more money than anybody else in the country.

You guys just signed a number one hockey guy.

David McKenna.

You guys signed the next Sidney Crosby, allegedly, this fucking guy, to Penn State.

The other sports are in the finals.

Hockey made a deep run.

Yeah, the wrestling space.

Yeah, wrestling, obviously.

The Penn State Sports

Volleyball are about to become across.

I think everybody just needs to get ready.

That Penn State Sports is gearing up to take over everything with the way they are constructed with CEOs and donors and boosters.

And they're not just collectives.

They're coming from actual people that have companies that are spending this money.

So I don't think like the commission is going to be able to cut them out of this whole thing.

$700 million update to the stadium.

$167 million in an offseason.

This is money.

Fuck.

We'll take this as well.

We'll take, you donate 10 million.

We'll let you in a speakeasy in the back door.

10 million is what it's going to take.

Cold Jim Knowles.

Jim Knowles from Ohio State comes out.

I mean, just like Penn State is all in on sports.

I love that.

I like that a lot.

I assume you do as well.

Do you think the football team, because there's so many other schools that are all in as well, especially in the Big Ten, do you think they're going to be able to do what they did last year?

And do you think they're going to be able to get even further?

It's going to get real loud if they don't.

It's going to get real loud because they have spent all the money in the world to keep that roster intact, right?

They got their quarterback coming back.

They've been able to keep both running backs.

They go and poach Jim Knowles.

They pay the defensive tackle.

And all these guys were borderline pro guys, too.

Like they could have gone into the draft as well, let alone gone to another school for more money.

So they've done everything.

They've gone all in on this.

They've gone all in with everything at the university.

My man, Pat Kraft is.

Let's spend it.

How much does it cost?

Let's write the check for a dollar more, whatever it is, right?

So he's doing everything he can to win.

He's doing everything he can to put this program at the top in the upper echelon of college football and stop Penn State from being mentioned in, okay, well, after the top four, after the top six.

Like, no, he wants to win this damn thing.

And they got the group coming back.

Obviously, we like the quarterback.

You love that that play happened for Drew Aller.

I didn't love it, but you know,

I also love the play.

I know you didn't love it.

But I'm just saying, mindset.

As somebody got death threats at the end of a season, you know, at the end of a football season, my junior year, like all offseason, it was like, I've done nothing.

I think I was all American already at two positions.

I mean, it was just like, but that was just like, you are nothing in this entire world, especially with what people that are supposed to be on your side are saying to you.

Like people, you have done nothing for us because you missed that.

Like for him, I assume the shit has been loud.

Loud at him.

And I think that's good if he's a dog.

Like, I think that's a good thing if he's a dog.

CJ Stroud talked about it at Ohio State about how he had a terrible time and he got murdered.

And it was like that actually like created him.

I think that like kind of callused him a little bit for what life is.

Nobody wants that road.

Everybody wants to win national championship.

Everybody wants to be perfect, do that whole thing.

But sometimes like the worst thing can come at a time that can really make you your best you, if that makes sense.

Yeah, I agree.

And I've known you for the better part of almost 20 years now at this point.

And I know you have that mentality.

I think I have that mentality.

Like whenever your back's against the wall, like that's when your best comes out.

That's me too.

Not everybody's built that way.

So I'm curious to see

how he responds if Drew is that guy, right?

Like this is a big moment for him because

every scout in America has your same sentiment, right?

Every GM has your same sentiment.

So

can he be that guy?

Will he be that dog whenever now you're backs against the wall?

Whenever it's a two-minute drill and the game's on the line and you're down and you need a score and you need a play.

This year, can you make that play?

Because the guys at the next level, the guys that everyone's talking about, Mahomes, C.J.

Stroud, right?

Like all these guys with that mentality, they make that play at the next level on the biggest stage, on the biggest moment, in front of millions and millions of fans.

Hopefully, you guys are able to do it this year for Penn State.

I'd be happy for you, man.

And I also hope that Pat Kraft gets rewarded, the athletic director up there, for all the fundraising.

That's what athletic directors' jobs are now.

You're fundraisers.

Obviously vision and everything, but you're fundraising.

164.9 million, I believe, is what was reported.

164.9 million from 20,000 donors, okay?

20,000 different donors.

They have the most CEOs out of any school in the country.

Got to win.

So they just got thousands of CEOs that are getting paid so much money.

It's like, yeah, James Franklin got to win.

Pat got him.

Yeah, because Pat Kraft.

in that team are going to be there.

He's doing his job.

They're going to be there.

Does he have to win?

Yeah, I think so.

AQ would be

before, so I guess it's like

keep getting excited.

What's his record against top five teams or whatever that's?

Ladies and gentlemen, this man is color coming.

I like James Franklin.

Remember, he was good too.

He said, Turkey Burger.

He didn't know what was on his burger.

That's because it was a turkey burger.

He said, I like meat.

I don't like turkey burgers.

Why has he got turkey burgers?

Because I think it's good for a community.

I think, you know, because there's a farm right there.

Sure, lowly source.

Yeah, farm stables.

Didn't he make that fan a speed bump, though, after he yelled at him?

I mean, he was going to fight a fan.

He's a little fiery.

He's a little fire.

I mean, that's James Franklin football.

That's true.

He was just talking shit to Notre Dame, telling him, come Big Ten.

Like, James Franklin, you know, but now he has all of everything

that everybody else has had, that he's been competing against, I think, is what he would say.

And now let's see what he does with it.

All right, we appreciate you.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you, Shipley.

You're the boy.

Thank you.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has covered a sport for us over the last few years that has kept us interested in a sport that we should have been loving all along.

Obviously, the MLB is taken.

I'm sorry.

I saw a lot of baseball people get mad that I say the MLB.

Am I just supposed to say MLB?

MLB.

Obviously, MLB?

No.

Yeah, I'm never going to do that.

It's Major League Baseball.

You wouldn't say that.

The Major League Baseball.

I get it, but it's like the league.

Yeah, you say it for everybody.

Yeah, but that makes sense.

The National Football Legion.

The National Basketball Association.

The Major League Baseball.

Sounds stupid.

It does.

But that's.

But hey, I'm going to say the MLB.

A lot of people do that.

You don't have to.

But I want to let you know.

The baseball people have the tactics pretty hard.

I know.

I get it.

Because there's mansion giving an answer.

And the one comment, the biggest comment said he's talking to a guy that said, the MLB.

None of this should count.

It's like, God dang.

Ladies and gentlemen, why didn't you tell me?

Jet passes.

Why didn't you tell me, Jet?

And the green screen ain't working.

I see it's green.

Jesus.

Dude, dude, I have wanted to say to you for so long.

It's not the MLB.

I know.

I'm sure you have right back there.

I got murdered.

I got absolute murder just trying to do

that.

The baseball.

You know what?

Listen, I appreciate the fact that you acknowledged it too, because you're right.

If we're talking syntactically here, the major league baseball, it just doesn't work.

But listen, as long as you care, I don't care if you call it MLB, the MLB, just baseball, whatever you want to call it, as long as you like baseball, that is what matters.

Okay, I am turning into a baseball lover.

So I think that's a good thing.

Now, I will say

football highlights all over the place.

And it's distracting.

There is a,

I'm running, I'm a dog running, and all of a sudden there's a barbecue here.

And baseball, baseball, baseball is fun.

Geno Smith just threw a dime to a guy named Dante.

They said it was the darts.

It was the only one.

Okay, all right, then we're back here.

So baseball, football right now kind of colliding, and I think it will continue for the rest of baseball season.

But let's talk about the baseball's future, shall we?

Because I do care about baseball and I'm getting into baseball.

And is it the bad, is it a bad time to get into the baseball?

Hey, this Bryce Harper stuff with Rob Manford, interesting.

Then the conversations that I was having with people whenever we were lucky enough to be at the home run derby, both players and other folks, it's like, hey, this CBA thing's a real problem.

When is this?

And baseball can't shoot itself in the foot right now.

It feels like everything's going in a great direction.

Do you agree?

I would like to believe that that's the case, Pat, because the collective bargaining agreement doesn't expire until December 1st, 2026.

So we got like another full year plus before it even becomes an issue and labor or a lockout potentially is in play.

But where it's at right now isn't great.

And I think the confrontation between Bryce Harper and Rob Manford really illustrates the two parties that we have going on here.

On one side, you've got owners and the owners, both publicly but particularly privately, have been talking about implementing a salary cap.

There is a salary cap in the NFL, in the NBA, in the NHL.

Why does Major League Baseball not have one?

And the players, on the other hand, are like, you know what?

And Bryce Harper, I think, believes this too.

Generations of players.

before the ones who are playing right now fought specifically to avoid getting a salary cap so you could have as free of a market as possible.

And so the people who play this sport can be paid what they deserve and that there's no limitations on it.

There's no constrictions on salary, on length, on anything like that.

If a guy is phenomenal and he's out there in free agency, he can get 15 years in $765 million like Juan Soto did.

And so you have these two sides that have completely conflicting opinions.

And beyond that, Pat, you have a history here.

It's been since the 1970s that owners owners have been pushing for a salary cap in MLB.

They lost the World Series in 1994 because players went on strike to avoid having a salary cap.

So there's a deep history here, and you're seeing a lot of the same arguments.

You're seeing a lot of the same points.

But I would like to believe that at the end of the day,

everybody involved understands.

Yeah, I mean, everybody involved needs to understand

that you cannot lose a season.

You absolutely cannot lose a season because baseball is in a good place right now.

Baseball has people like you who they're bringing in and who are actually watching the game and seeing it and being like, hey, like, turns out baseball's good.

Cool stuff.

A lot of games.

Yeah.

Cool sport.

They've got a long way to go and a large gap to bridge before they get to the point where I think the sides are going to agree on something.

And I just hope the 2027 season is not the casualty to get there.

All right, a couple years from now, let's assume that leverage is being flexed by both sides right now and that a good negotiation will take place and collective bargaining will happen and we'll continue to have greats playing great baseball, which is great for baseball right now.

But I will say, Bryce Harper walking right up to the commissioner's face, saying, get the fuck out of here.

Dog love it.

Absolutely.

The boys,

I know there's some Spanish speakers in there that don't understand a lot of English.

So maybe somebody had to translate to them what was happening there.

That's what I learned at the home.

Oh, no, nobody, nobody needed to translate what was happening.

When Bryce Harper's holding a bat and walks up to the commissioner and says, if you want to talk about a salary cap, you can

exactly what you said right there.

Yeah, it's and here's the thing: Manfred went right back at him.

Yes.

Like, Rob Manford dropped an F-bomb at him, too.

This is my fucking club.

You shut the fuck up.

How about this?

Give me a bet.

Give me a bet.

About that.

Nobody gives him a bet.

I need a bet.

Oh, man.

What a moment.

That's baseball, baby.

Okay.

All right.

You know, Pat, you know what that is, though?

This is the first shot in the war.

He takes all their bats.

You don't get a bet.

He takes all of them.

They can't play anymore.

You know what?

That looks like that's not regulation.

This is mine.

This is mine.

That's mine.

Hey, let's send them all the big-seamed baseballs to this team.

Where are your baseballs?

Okay, we only got three minutes.

We only got three minutes to hard out.

There's other things happening in baseball that are also, sorry, baseball, not great for baseball.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Jet, what is going on with the Emmanuel Classe situation?

Obviously, he's like one of the big targets this year around the trade deadline, but now there's the gambling investigation.

He's been placed on leave.

So what's going on there?

Is this an issue?

Because we've only, all these guys are from the Guardians.

And also, not just him.

Eugenio Suarez got hit in the hand the other day.

A lot of people were nervous.

He might have broken it.

How does that impact his trade value and what's going to happen?

Just quickly, what's going on with those two guys?

Two minutes, Joe.

Oh, I can do this easy.

No broken finger for Eugenio Suarez.

When you have hand issues, it can really sap your power.

But I don't think teams are concerned at this point because there is no break there.

He's going to be fine.

He's going to get a haul.

The Diamondbacks are going to do great.

In terms of Emmanuel Clase,

things are not quite as great because when you see multiple teams or multiple players from the same team, you worry like, oh God,

could this be another situation like the Black Sox where everybody is involved in something?

Now, it was interesting to see the Guardians put out a statement yesterday saying that it is expected that these will be the only two players who are involved in it.

Major League Baseball continues to do its investigation right now.

And the Guardians are not going to say that if MLB doesn't give them a sense that, you know, they haven't found anything yet.

And yet we also know that these sorts of things tend to have different layers to them.

So I'm not going to sit here and say the Guardians are in the clear at this point.

I hope, I hope as a baseball fan, and for the sake of Major League Baseball, that that is the case.

But Pat, like, let's be honest about this.

When you have micro bets that exist, when you can bet on something like, is this going to be a ball or is this going to be a strike, you are running the risk of having a 1,200 player population that is not all going to be immune to chasing the money regardless of how much they make.

And so Major League Baseball,

you know, however much it works with betting integrity firms, absolutely needs to be pushing for the elimination of those sorts of bets.

Okay, and are they going to check into umpires at all?

Did you see this?

I saw this codify.

Hey, nope, ball.

Excuse me?

What?

That happened.

Not great.

Excuse me?

But you just talked about micro-betting and everything like that.

It's like, I don't want to say, hey, that's obnoxious, but that is, right?

As somebody that doesn't really feel like.

Oh, yeah, without a doubt.

I'd guess he probably apologized not too long after that.

Yeah.

Because sometimes guys miss stuff.

That happens sometimes.

That is what the ABS challenge system is going to be for.

That's why robot umpires are necessary, period.

All right.

We appreciate the hell out of you.

Obviously, gombling 182 games, how many pitches, what you can do with baseball.

It is ripe for the picking.

Hopefully, it doesn't continue to be a thing.

Jet, can Class A still be traded or no?

Like, does this affect that?

I don't think anyone's going to be trading for him.

I figured, but how many games?

How many games?

162 in a season.

I gave an extra 20.

I wish.

Yes.

Well, in playoffs,

baseball fan.

That's it.

How many names?

All right, ladies and gentlemen.

Jeff Passer, thank you buddy.

I've been like the condescending big baseball fan.

Okay, Jay, you're part of the problem.

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Football!

It's happening all around us and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chit-chat about it from now all the way until February when the next Super Bowl was played.

We will have football every single week until then.

And for that, we celebrate.

Hell yeah, come on.

Now, there were spring football leagues that obviously we all watched, and Fisher Freight were doing their thing.

And football is certainly going to always be great, no matter what style of football it is.

But NFL football being back, and college football being right around the corner, it's just a beautiful thing.

You know, whenever you wake up and think to yourself, I'm just

a few weeks away

from a Saturday morning,

6 a.m.

alarm.

Wake up, a little coffee,

a little scroll through the internet,

walk onto a stage,

a few thousand, hopefully, students behind us, and kicking off a full slate of college football.

Oh, man,

what is that full slate of college football, though?

Oh, Ohio State and Texas is the first.

We're just a few weeks away.

And that's not the only game.

No, no, no.

Whole day.

Packed all the way until the 10 o'clocker.

Yeah.

Boom.

11 o'clock or sorry.

We got football football right around the corner.

Anything about the NFL?

Hall of Fame game.

Two days.

No big deal.

Hall of Fame game is on Thursday.

We will be there.

Chargers, Lions will be.

I don't know if we'll be at the game.

It's supposed to rain.

So we will judge with the race.

We'll be at Kenton.

We will be at Canton.

Now, if it's just going to storm all afternoon,

there's a chance

we might not make it to the game.

Plan is, as of this moment,

tomorrow, St.

Vincent College, University.

Yeah.

Thursday, Canton, Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Right off the highway there, easy to get to.

Easy to get to.

Right off the highway there, you can kind of see it.

Can certainly hear it.

Let's turn the gain down.

Certainly could.

Let's turn the gain down now.

We found out this morning that we will be right next to a highway, which, classic, middle of America.

That's how it works.

You got to get from one place to another here.

That's how it goes.

So we'll be next to the highway.

But we obviously want to give everything that we possibly can to the wonderful folks in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

We'll get a chance to chit-chat with the entire class of this year in the first hour.

They'll be stopping by.

I cannot wait to learn more about their story, cannot wait to learn more about the Hall of Fame, and cannot wait for the Chargers and the Lions to officially kick off NFL football for the year.

Even though the game's going to be shite, we still love the fact that football has happened.

The show is going to be awesome.

The game will probably be awesome.

But if I have to miss DJ Uyungale versus Kyle Allen because it's rain, I'm going to be pissed.

Same.

We'll be there.

We'll stay for it.

Okay.

Well, I'll drive home.

You guys go ahead.

Okay.

Okay.

Done deal.

All right.

So that is an option.

So

I'm not going to say I'm going to go home, but I do, I will not feel bad now if I go home because you will drive home.

We will all view it the same way, right?

Yeah.

Tone will have his own rental.

Yep.

So.

If we got to get out of there.

If we have to, he's going to be all right.

Tone's okay.

Can I watch this on NFL Premium Plus?

It's on NBC, brother.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

NBC, I think, is sending, from our understanding, NBC is doing, I mean, they are

NBC is treating us like a

Sunday night football.

Yeah, you can definitely still watch the NFL Premium

Premium brought to you by NFL Premium.

And who owns that?

Does ESPN own it all?

It's kind of up there.

Does anybody know anything about that?

Mentioned it to Schrager the other day, and Schrager was like,

right, didn't he?

Yeah,

that was his exact basketball.

Because as I was looking at him, as I was saying, he felt like he knew more than we did about the whole situation.

Because all we do is see like a tweet from some rack that's like hey there's a chance that espn's gonna buy nfl network or whatever espn

what is that happening do we know does anybody know if that's happening no idea it's like a live golf pga situation report where

so because our show is licensed through espn and technically in ESPN world, we should get free subscription, right, to NFL Plus Premium.

Without a doubt.

If that happens,

we should be working for that.

And we should also get something that we can give out.

Yeah.

Don't you think?

Especially if we should be able to hand these out to people to watch.

Wait a second.

Are you guys getting prescriptions like Disney Plus and Istpium Plus that I'm missing out?

Oh, yeah, good point.

No.

No.

No.

No, we are not.

Paying out of pocket for those.

Yeah.

That's worth it, though.

Actually, for sure.

Without it.

Moana.

Yeah.

Moana, dude.

Mackenzie loves seeing the lions guy.

Yeah, all of it over there.

Toy story.

I'm watching these Disney movies for the first time.

Dude, not bad.

What's your favorite so far?

Moana has really stolen the day.

I'm going to be honest.

Just strictly because, you know, big oos is in there doing his stuff.

I think he's really like Luca.

I watched it last night through Luca sucks.

Luca very thin right now, it is in Italy.

It sucks, Luca, very, very thin right now.

Yeah, he is.

He was on the Yankees broadcast last night.

How was he?

He was pretty good, actually.

I was expecting him to not say anything.

He stayed for like two innings and was kind of just having a good time.

It was pretty sweet.

Saw him take a picture of Aaron Judge.

Crazy how tall they both are.

Yeah, you know, that picture just makes them both look like they're like 5'11.

That is not the case.

That was at a high altitude.

Yeah.

He had sunglasses on.

Super trim.

Oh, yeah.

Like, incredibly slim.

Looks like he's lost 100 pounds.

And I saw LeBron work.

He looks unbelievable.

He looks like this.

I mean, he's 6'6 or whatever it is.

Unbelievably tall.

How tall is Aaron Judge?

Aaron Judge is like 6'8 ⁇ .

So I think Luka is a little bit shorter.

Yeah, Luca's like 6'6 ⁇ , 6'7 ⁇ .

I think.

Yeah, he looks unbelievable.

Is he still going to be able to do his shit?

Yes.

They'll be great.

Absolutely.

I don't know.

I was always worried if I lost my fat, that wouldn't be able to hit the ball as far.

There's a chance that Luca wonders if he can still do his.

You think he'd be moving too fast enough?

Yes.

Well, because he was.

His thing is molasses.

Isn't that his thing?

He was

going, and he's still on his second step, and you're gone.

He'll figure it out.

He might have too much quick twitch.

Luca might be too in shape.

Is anybody else saying that?

Oh, I can't wait for them to kill him for that.

Oh.

Fasso lost way too much weight.

Oh,

now he's getting bodied around.

I can't wait for the full thing.

Luca, you look great.

We're proud of you.

Speaking of looking great, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man that's going through a midlife crisis with his hair and we think everything else.

He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rocket Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

AJ, I just want to let you know, four people independently texted me last night.

Okay.

Different parts of country.

Okay.

Yeah.

All of them said the same thing, different phrasing, different eras.

These people all came from different ones.

So the way they said things was certainly different.

They said that it is very much

a yarmulke on top of your head.

That ain't for that, too.

That's basically what everybody has said.

Four different parts of the country.

And then you could add in, my wife, she didn't text me obviously.

She should have told me, is AJ wearing one of those

Jewish,

I said, yarmulke.

She goes, is he wearing one of those?

It looks like he's wearing,

looks like he's wearing a yarmulke.

And I go, you're not the only person i said i showed the text this guy's in california training camp this guy's on the east coast at training camp wow this guy's in florida at training camp and this guy lives in arizona and now he's color commentator

so

everybody's saying it i just want to let you know i don't know if it's a lighting i think it might be and also

um

shalom shalom bra okay yeah I mean, it is not a yarmulke.

I do understand.

I'm growing out, trying to grow the sides out, and that's, it's going to be weird for a long time.

I would just imagine right now, I don't have any plans, but I am trying to grow the sides out.

The top, who knows?

Like, that's the thing.

Like, tell those people I appreciate them consuming the product.

Thank you very much for watching.

Hell yeah.

Hey, anything to anything to start a little attention?

I like that.

Keep doing the Yarmuka haircut.

Keep doing it.

I will.

That's good for the program.

It is.

There's no plans in sight.

So, yeah, we're sticking with whatever we're doing.

It's got the people buzzing.

I'm excited for the end result.

I don't know what no one knows what it's going to be, but I'm

buzzing either.

We saw it yesterday.

We know what the end result is going to be.

I'm very excited.

Yeah, we've grew up with like 50 people that all had this ratty

great flow of hair.

That's where you're headed, AJ?

Do you want a little axle note that daddy can still let the hair flow?

Is that what we're doing?

I don't think that's in the plan, but like I said, there is no plan, so who knows?

I never say no.

So for now, we do the yarmica until we get this.

This is what we're looking for, right?

Ooh, that's perfect.

It's not that long there either.

The thing that I love about it is you clearly never got it like layered, never got it like trimmed, never got it.

I

turned it myself sometimes, too.

Yeah, like I didn't have any professional help, that's for sure.

Yeah, it's just one length of shit just all sitting there like a waterfall.

I learned after I cut my hair, because same thing, my hair was just all the same length.

Like you needed to cut, like we're trying to tell you.

Yeah.

Like, hey,

they can cut this to make it not look like it is just a, you know, so maybe you do that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe.

JC was here.

Huh?

JC.

He was.

I almost sat down and then I was like, you know what?

I don't feel it in my bones today, you know, to get rid of the hair just yet.

Sometimes you got to feel it.

You got to feel it.

Yeah.

AJ, wherever you go with your hair, know that we will support you.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man that we have supported since the beginning.

Back whenever he was wearing a headset in the booth.

That's right.

Remember?

Even further back.

You can go all the way back to when he's a scout for New England.

You spore the shit out of him.

Amen.

Hey, they got this Italian guy, huge brain.

Big brain.

All these do-your-job documentaries, they got this fucking Paison walking in.

Like,

this guy's a guy.

He supported me, threw it my pro day.

Wow,

boom, yeah, him and Bill B.

So he was working whenever we came out of college?

Yep.

Yeah, I don't think he put me on any list.

Ladies and gentlemen, the general manager of the Houston Texans, Paisano Nicasario.

Unbelievable.

I ain't put him really far, no.

All true, all true.

Did DB's workout, and back in the day, I had a horrible haircut.

I know you guys were just talking about haircuts.

I had a horrible haircut.

So I've kind of cleaned it up a little bit.

So it was kind of long, kind of puffy.

So I try to get it cut once a week.

So I can't stand,

like I just showed AJ's picture.

I've never had hair like that.

So it wasn't quite that long.

I'll tell you what, you won a Super Bowl.

Why don't you go ahead and do that?

Why don't you go ahead and let that thing just kind of flow there?

All the most important photos of your life, just terrible, long, disgusting hair.

I think you should sign up for that.

I think you should think about that.

No, I cut my hair once.

I was going bald.

I cut my, I cut my own hair.

So actually, one summer, I was cutting my hair, the attachment fell off.

So I had a, I didn't have a choice.

So I just shaved it.

All right.

And that man is now a general manager in the NFL.

And he

will cut his own hair so he doesn't have to pay somebody else to do it.

He's been a great businessman, seemingly, since jump there in Houston.

Feels like you had a massive offseason.

Let go of a couple studs, brought in some new folks, traded out of the first round.

Feels like you've been very active, but nobody's been talking about it.

How do you feel about your offseason?

And how do you feel about being completely under the the radar yet again like it was a couple years ago almost?

Yeah, no, I appreciate you saying that.

We feel like we've made some progress here in the offseason.

I think when you look at the entire AFC South, quite frankly, they've all improved.

Jacksonville's improved.

Tennessee's improved.

Indianapolis has improved.

Thank you.

They just extended Raymond there, you know, yesterday or whatever it was.

So, I mean, I think the offseason, the one thing that's consistent or one thing that is constant is change.

So we understand there's going to be turnover with our roster each year.

So what we try to do is just kind of take inventory of where we are, try to make good smart decisions, bring people in that we feel fit our program on a lot of different levels, both personally and then on a field as well.

And this is what Training Camp is about, to try to sort through what we have on the roster, create some competition, try to create as much depth as possible to at least give ourselves an opportunity each week to be competitive with the rest of the teams, not only in AFC South, but the rest of the AFC as well.

Let's talk about CJ Stroud a little bit.

Obviously, his rookie season is record breaking and then injuries everywhere.

I think around the team, you guys would obviously not make any excuses, but sophomore season, not as great or prolific as obviously the magical rookie season.

What do you expect from him?

What did you see from him in the offseason?

If I recall, everything CJ Stroud has ever done is like perfect for being the starting quarterback for an NFL team.

Has that continued this offseason?

What have you seen at him from early in camp?

Yeah, no, he's had a good offseason.

I think he's had a good, I would say, spring of work.

He's very committed.

Kind of started his offseason February, March.

He was around here, and then he did some throwing sessions over the summer.

I think the big thing that we're trying to focus on as a team is just consistency.

When you look back at last season, you know, it started well five and one, and then we were just kind of up and down.

And, you know, offensively, it was probably a microcosm for the rest of the team.

So I think the big thing is just trying to make improvement, trying to work on one or two things that you feel are going to make you a better football player.

CJ has worked really hard.

He's gained a lot of strength.

He's gained a lot of lower body strength.

And I think the big thing with the transition offensively is just trying to get an understanding of what we're trying to do on a day-to-day basis.

So that's where we are.

And, you know, he's embraced that.

So we've had some change, but, you know, I think we're just trying to work collectively to try to get to a point where everybody's comfortable so that we're ready to go that first Sunday against the Rams.

I think you're always going to be ready down there, especially with D'Amico as head coach.

Your defense just punishes people seemingly every preseason.

This is just what we see as a defense flying around.

CJ Stroud being a guy, the moves you made on offense, how your defense is seemingly always going to be.

Houston Texans way too good.

Go ahead, AJ.

Need to be worse down there.

Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Nick, speaking of CJs, I know you guys brought in CJ Gardner Johnson, obviously on the back end there for your defense.

Can you talk a little bit about what he brings to the defense?

We know, like, the competitive atmosphere that is always around this dude and how he competes and goes after the ball.

Like, what does he mean to that defense and what's he going to bring really to that team?

No, you articulated it very well, AJ.

I mean, you've seen that in the spring work and then here in training camp.

CJ is a very instinctive, very aware football player.

Like, you don't have that much production on the ball without having a good understanding of not only your scheme, but what the offense is trying to do as well.

The ball seems to find him, but that means you put yourself in a position to make plays.

So he's had a good attitude.

He's had good energy.

Honestly, he's kind of blended with the rest of the group.

You know, we feel that's a pretty decent group back there in the secondary.

We've got a number of good young players.

And then CJ brings a certain level of experience to that group.

So excited to work with him, but he's had a good attitude.

He's an excitable guy.

He's a fun guy to be around.

He loves football.

He loves to compete.

And you see that on the field on a day-to-day basis.

Yeah, and he'll get four or five people this year to throw punch 15 yards and make this thing second and 25, which, hey, if he's on your team, which I think your team loves those types of players, that's a good culture.

I think he fits perfectly with you guys.

You know, you talked about your back end as a whole, not just CJ GJ.

One of your guys actually made it into Darius Butler's sophomore superstar.

Everything DB sophomore superstars group here is a loaded class, you know, top 100 across the board.

Go ahead, D.

Boy.

Absolutely.

AJ just asked you about bringing in CJ GJ, but you got some studs.

They're already Petrie, Stingley, Pay Stingley, who I think is one of the top, you know, probably two corners in the league and some other weapons.

How have they geled as a group so far early in this camp?

Yeah, by the way, DB, that's a really good list you have there.

Those are all good football players.

I have everything, baby.

Hey, that's what you saw when you were throwing at us Prode.

You know what you're talking about.

But as far as our group, it's an interesting group.

They're highly, highly competitive.

They're very, very salty, and they really don't say a lot.

They just kind of show up and work.

Petrie's that way.

Lasseter is that way for sure.

I don't think Stingley has said, you know, 15 words since he's been here as a rookie, but they kind of let their play do the talking, which you like to see.

Bullock is kind of the same way, and Bullock's got a little bit of personality, but they're all kind of younger players.

And when you add CD to that mix, you know, it's just kind of an interesting group that we've kind of pieced together.

You know, Jimmy Ward is still on the team and on the roster, has a lot of experience.

Jimmy's hurt right now.

I know he's dealing with, you know, a situation personally as well.

But it's a, you know, a pretty good blend of some younger players that we feel continue to ascend, um, and then some experienced players.

So ultimately, the big thing defensively is just trying to take the ball away, trying to prevent big plays, and then just getting the ball with reckless abandon because that's what D'Amico preaches to the defense.

And we have a lot of guys that fit that profile.

Yeah, it feels like you should get good in the back end because I don't know if you're seeing the clips coming out of Indianapolis, Indiana.

I don't know if you're seeing them, Nick.

Nick's not a believer.

He's the guy.

He's become the guy, it appears, that we all thought he could potentially be.

Do you watch what's happening in other training camps like I do?

Like we're watching these highlights just like going, like we are, it's a problem.

I don't think it's a healthy thing.

We're seeing highlights, not only Colts and Patrons.

Nick, look out for that down there in Lad High South, down there in Houston.

Okay, you need to watch out for that.

But do you watch what's going on in other camps right now?

Because obviously there's going to be a lot of turnover from other.

Like, how do you balance that during training camp?

For sure.

You're kind of looking at everything.

I mean, we don't necessarily get to see what's going on in training camp.

Like I said, like I talked about a little bit earlier, like the whole AFC South has improved.

So I think what we have to do is kind of focus on our team, our improvement, try to get a good foundation in place, and then get ourselves ready to go for those opponents when it's appropriate.

But have a lot of respect for the teams in our division.

Not surprising Anthony's playing well.

Anthony's a very talented player, but we have, I would say, we're reading what's going on.

So you kind of have a lay of the land of maybe what players are doing well, what players are standing out, what players potentially could be available.

But as far as video and that, we're not going to really see anything until the preseason games start.

And then

you're seeing it a little more on a personnel basis, not so much schematically.

But like I said, we have to focus on our improvement because we understand the challenges that are in front of us in our division.

And like I said earlier, every team has gotten better.

So this league is about showing up each week, being consistent and having respect for your opponent.

That's the way we approach it.

And then try to focus on the Texans and just being the best version of ourselves on a week-to-week basis.

I'll start texting you the clips of Coltscape.

You need to get eyes on these at night when you're sleeping.

No, no, no, no, text me too.

Oh, he doesn't need to.

I kind of want him to see so he has nightmares of the believe ours.

He's kind of running all over.

You know, I kind of want.

Never mind.

You got enough to worry about.

I don't need to add to it.

We know they have good players.

We're certainly aware.

There's no question.

Thank you.

Okay.

Nice.

So do you.

A lot of them.

You change over a very important position.

We obviously have A.Q.

Shipley on our show every single week.

He's now the Keller commentator for the Arizona Cardinals.

Don't know if you guys play him.

I'm sure he'll have great things to say about you.

He has really pointed out the fact that the teams that win are the teams that have great offensive lines.

We've tried to showcase that because we think offensive line is the most important position.

You guys have done a lot.

Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, Nick, whether it was fair or not, last year, the offensive line you guys had last year took a lot of heat and there was a big overhaul of the offensive line coming into this season.

How do you feel about your new offensive line?

And then how hard was it to trade Laramie Tonzo, who's kind of been the cornerstone of that offensive line for so many years?

Yeah, great question on a lot of different levels.

I would say relative to Laramie.

Laramie's a really good football player, did a lot for this organization for a number of years.

Anytime you make difficult decisions like that, it's never easy.

You try to have conversations and in the end, do what you feel makes the most sense for your football team.

You know, any decision that you make, we understand that there's probably going to be a lot that comes along with it.

But relative to our group, have a lot of players with varying levels of experience, a number of veteran players like Cam Robinson and Lakin Tomlinson, combined with a number of younger players in drafted ursury in a second round.

Jared Patterson's done a good job for us.

Titus Hauer has kind of been the most experienced player here.

So we feel like we've created a decent amount of competition there.

And you mentioned it and D'Amico talks about it all the time.

Like this league, everything starts with the front, the offensive and defensive line.

And really, it's about how you play as a unit, specifically on the offensive line.

So you need all five guys moving in the right direction, communicating the right way, making sure that you get the blockers disseminated appropriately.

So it's going to take a lot of work.

We have a new offensive line coach as well.

So everybody's kind of starting from ground level, but we're going to be as good as a team as our fronts are.

So on the offensive and defensive lines, when you look across the league, ultimately, That's where games are won and lost in addition to taking care of the football and being sound situationally.

So we'll try to focus on that and we'll try to put the best five out there and give ourselves the best chance to win.

Obviously, they have to have the ability, but any five could become the five.

You know, like it's crazy how offensive lines can kind of piece together.

Don't you agree?

No, no, there's no question.

I've been a part of a lot of different shapes and sizes.

And I would just say, like, looking at AQ, like, I mean, the guy had an unbelievable career, 12-year career.

And the reason that he lasted in this league as long as he did, because he was smart as hell and he was tough as hell, and he had enough physical ability to go along with it, and he was able to maximize it.

And when you look at offensive line play, it's really just about mitigating the disaster play and just making sure that you're sound

so that the defensive front doesn't have a direct line to the quarterback on the inside part of the pocket or a straight line off the edge where you don't get a hand on him.

He had 29 and 7 eighths inch arms.

Is he the only guy that you've heard of in offensive line under 30 inches that has made it?

Super Bowl champion?

I'm sure if like you ask all the analytic gurus, he probably shouldn't have even made his root training camp.

He was called that.

The guy won the Remington, and then he didn't get drafted until after me.

Exactly.

And he lasts 12 years.

I mean, I would say another player, you know, we had Shaq Mason, had him here in Houston last year, had him in New England as well.

He was 6'1, 305 pounds, and that guy started at Guard for 10 years.

You know, so I think sometimes these measurables are a little bit overrated,

but you can't put a lot of stuff.

Sometimes a guy's toughness, his competitiveness, his just overall work on a day-to-day basis.

I mean, that that carries a lot of weight and you see it across the league, not only our team, but other teams as well.

No, I think finding out who's a dog and isn't is an easy job.

That's why it's so simple to put together a good team.

Not a doubt.

That's why every team should say

it's so easy to just figure it out.

Dealing with humans.

Yeah, 53 of them.

Hoping they'll all show up and get along.

That's not an easy feat.

That's a psychology.

sociology test.

I mean, there's a lot of people.

There's so much that goes into it.

Oh, there's so much that goes.

Real.

That's real.

Honestly, this time of year, you're managing 90 players.

So understand, you have a lot of people in your building, different personalities.

You're going to go from 90 to 53.

Then you're going to have 16 on the practice quad.

So you have, I would say, 70 different personalities in your building at once.

And not everybody's the same, but part of our responsibility is just get the right people with the right mindset and the right mentality, just moving in the right direction.

And if you get enough of those people, in the end, it's going to come down to how well you execute on Sundays.

Are you?

They say copycat league.

You know, that's kind of what every league is, I think.

The NBA, the NHL,

the NFL, and MLB.

Yep, well said.

All copycat leagues.

You guys see the Eagles win.

We all see the Eagles win.

They ran the ball more than they threw the ball by hundreds.

Saquon Barkley, obviously, the thing, offensive line, D line, four first rounders.

Everybody's able to go.

You see that and say, hey, this is where the league's heading.

Does that change anything as opposed to maybe the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl?

Like, how does that affect you as another team in the NFL?

No, it's really interesting.

I think there's a cyclical nature to our league, whether it's defensive front structure or offensive personnel.

We went through that experience at different points in New England.

We were an 11-personnel team.

Then we were a 12-personnel team.

Teams are using a little bit more 21, but even, you know, when you watch Philadelphia play, they're an 11-personnel team, but they could run the football as effectively as anybody with opened-up formation.

So a big part of that is they have a really good offensive line, as you mentioned, and really they have one of the best players in the league in Saquon.

But what you have to do is figure out what do you have on your team, what do those players do well, and then kind of where are the opportunities on the margins to make some improvements.

But in the end, this league comes down to situational execution, taking care of the football.

And at some point, you're probably going to have to get a yard in critical situations.

So if you can run the ball or stop that play, then you're probably going to have an opportunity.

But the league is very cyclical.

And to your point, Pat, it's not you just copy what another team does.

You have to figure out what works.

But we've got a lot of smart people in this league, and everybody's studying what everybody else is doing to try to figure out: can we incorporate that into our system?

And or maybe if something else we can try.

So, in the end, you have to do what's best for your players and your team within the structure of what you have.

I don't know if you saw it.

You say you're going to need a yard at some point.

Shane Gillis created the tush push.

Is that what we're saying?

Yeah.

Yeah, he did.

Oh, is that where we are on that?

Yeah, I think I saw it on the SPEs.

I think it was

on the Espys.

Yeah, I think it was.

So maybe you call him.

Yeah, he's down there in Austin, right?

I don't know how far that is from Houston.

Quick.

He could probably come up with a yard play for you guys.

Came up for one for him.

Maybe we could put him on a whiteboard.

Yeah, maybe he can give us a play and get us a yard.

Former D1 offensive lineman.

People forget that about him.

Hey, Marine.

No.

Excuse me, Army.

Yes.

Yeah.

Let's move along.

True story.

Let's talk about putting a team together.

Let's talk about putting a team together.

Go ahead, Con Man.

Yeah, Nick, every year you seem to kind of support C.J.

Moore with wide receivers, or CJ Stroud, excuse me.

First year, you bring in Dalton Schultz kind of as his vet in there, already having Nico Collins.

Last year, it was Diggs.

This year, it's Christian Kirk.

You're the only guy who seems to check Schefters' notifications when someone gets released and then reach out to that team and just trade for them.

I don't know why.

That is your move.

Don't know why no one else does it.

You did it with Joe Mixon last year.

Now you did it with Christian Kirk.

Great player.

What is kind of the strategy in doing that?

And then what's the strategy in bringing in three or having three Iowa State Cyclones on your roster?

Because we're GoHawks and those guys typically don't pan out.

Well, Tyree Halliburton is an Olympic gold medalist.

And if Brock Purdy just stopped playing different sports.

Yeah, no, no.

Brock Purdy, Brock Purdy, he's one of one.

He's Mr.

Relevant, man.

No one can do that.

What are you talking about?

Campbell, the guy's won more games than anybody in the history of the program.

Yeah, Matt runs a really good program.

Meantime,

I have a lot of respect for Coach Bernstein.

I mean, longest tenured coach

in college.

So I have a lot of respect for his program.

But specifically to your initial question, really, you're just looking for opportunities to add players to your team, and there's no straight line A to B.

So if a player gets released, if he makes it to the waiver wire, then he's going to terminate and then he essentially becomes a free agent.

And there's going to be competition for that player's services potentially.

So you get involved in that.

Or if you feel that's a player that you want to be able to

gain his services and if you have to make a move and give up draft compensation, that that's a choice that you have to make.

So we've done that a few times here in Houston.

We did it back in the day in New England as well.

We did it with Jason McCordy, something very similar.

So it's really just about trying to take advantage of your opportunities and make decisions that you feel make the most sense.

As it pertains to the number of cyclones that we have on the team, yes, we do have three.

I don't think we went into the draft with the intent to draft two players from the same program.

But they were, Jaden and Jalen were both really good football players with the right mindset, the right makeup.

They kind of complement one another.

So our job is to bring as many good football players and people in the building as possible and then let the competition sort itself out.

How many Hawkeyes you got?

Not enough.

No, we have Luke Lachey.

We took Luke in the seventh round this year.

I think he's the only one.

I have to check with Omar on that.

But yeah, so,

but yeah,

we've had Hawks.

We've had Cyclones.

We had any Mountaineers.

We'll have to do that.

We got enough Buckeyes, so we're trying to run a gamut here.

We have any Huskies.

I don't think we have any U-Books.

There is no reason.

There is no reason to do what you just did right now.

The Huskies are coming.

Well, I don't know if the Huskies are ever going to come anywhere, but

I'm sure they are.

I'm sure at some point you guys come somewhere, basketball and everything like that.

Don't relax.

Mountaineers, though, everything that you're about, from what I'm hearing, Rich Rodriguez is about to create some boys for that team down.

And I just want to let you know that.

We've got some Mountaineers that are ready to run.

I don't know if it's going to be this year.

Okay.

Sure.

Be tough.

Trust.

It's like a hundred years.

Must have this year there are like a hundred players.

The mountaineers are ready to go.

Rich Rod, we'll get them back.

Rich Rodriguez.

He knows.

This is a gentleman.

How many wins?

Was that 10 wins?

Shut up, AJ.

You guys are going to beat Texas week one or not?

Okay, let's just talk about that.

Let's just talk about that real quick.

All right.

Don't you worry about what Rich Rod's doing in the hills of Western Plaintown right now.

Okay, we're building dogs, ready to become Texans, but if not, they're going to be Indianapolis Colts.

And you don't want to see them in your nightmares, brother.

Speaking of nightmares, we know how much you love the American one.

Yep.

And we know how much you love WWE.

You're in a middle training camp right now.

You're obviously focused on a lot of things, but there is a huge change to the wrestling world that's happening.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Nick, obviously, you're up to your eyeballs right now in football stuff, as you should be.

But I hope, or, you know, maybe you're not, but if you're not going to, I think you should cut a little slice out every night to check out WWE Unreal on Netflix as a big-time mark.

Just curious, are you excited to see how the sausage gets made in the WWE?

Are you like it is very much, by the way?

Exactly.

You haven't seen it.

I've only seen clips.

I haven't watched it yet.

Everything.

Is nothing sacred?

That's kind of where I stay.

Nothing safe.

I don't want to kill Kay Fey, but again, knowing you're a big American nightmare guy, we saw in the preview him and Kevin Owens kind of, you know, discussing their match from the Royal Rumble.

So is that something to kind of get away from football at night you'll maybe sit down and kind of tune into?

It's funny you bring that up.

At some point, I probably will take a peek at that.

Real Real quick, actually, when I got home last night, I saw the tail end of RAW on Netflix.

And then I actually happened to listen.

I was at a conference in March.

Triple H was there with one of the executives from Netflix.

And essentially, they were talking about the transition from

USA or the network to Netflix and the reach.

And it was really interesting kind of hearing their perspective.

I did see CM Punk's monologue last night.

Of course, he did a really good job.

Promo!

Promo!

Speak the words.

And they previewed the card here this weekend.

So, yeah, I mean, the fact that it's Cena's last SummerSlam match.

All right.

I mean,

how do we think this is going to go?

We'll see.

We'll see.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

He might lose, brother.

This could be all over.

You never know.

The run of Cena, the last time is now.

Maybe the last time him being a champ is now, too.

Never know.

Just a few days out.

Roman got his J stolen from him last night.

Crazy.

No way.

From Brunson Reed, right off his feet.

Big Brunson Reed?

Yeah.

Yeah, the tsunami's back, baby.

It certainly is.

Bronson's a bad man.

Bronson's a bad man.

He is a bad man.

Broke both.

He's coming off the top of a cage.

He's trying to tsunami.

He tsunami both.

Did he do the wheelchair gimmick?

No, he's just with Bron Breaker and pulled him in.

Should have, though.

Anyways, the unreal thing, I've seen the clips.

I would like to say,

because I feel like everybody in the wrestling world is giving their opinion on it.

I was not a big fan of this thing.

I did not enjoy the thought of it just as a wrestling fan.

Like, I enjoy watching things that happened 20 years ago.

Like Undertaker and Mick Foley chit-chatting after Hell in a Cell and seeing the clips later in the documentary.

Love it.

The Rock and Mankind chit-chatting after that.

Love it.

All the behind.

I think Brock and Undertaker's moment before they go out there like years later.

Like I enjoy seeing it years later.

I just didn't know how I'd feel about it.

Every clip I've seen is like, this must watch.

Like this is going to, this is very, very, very good content that I assume they knew the world would love.

And I think if you look at early indications, everybody's watching this shit, Nick.

Everybody's watching it.

Well, look, as you know, they know what they're doing.

So they obviously felt like if they put this product together, like there was going to be an attraction and there was going to be interest.

They wouldn't do something haphazardly, which is why the product has lasted as long as it has.

And there's still the interest and the pull that there is.

I mean, I was watching clips, obviously, you know, with Hulk's passing and you're looking at some of the clips and what's happened.

Think about that.

I mean, he was in it for 35, 40 years.

And to have, to still have that reach and for the WWE to still have the attraction that it does, I mean, they obviously know what they're doing.

So you can do nothing but tip your hat to them.

Yeah, it was a big decision, I think, probably that was made.

Hey, we're going to give this whole thing away here.

And but then as you're watching it, it's like, oh, people that aren't interested in wrestling are going to love this.

Well, and it's also like it's kind of for the more adult fans.

Like it's TV, it's mature audiences.

So like they're not editing anything out.

Like those are like actual conversations where nothing's bleeped or anything like that.

So it's not like they're just like, oh, yeah, the 10 to 14 year old demo who watches every week, they're going to love this.

Like, this is for the adult fans.

NFL Films did a great job with this, I think.

From the clips I've seen, I think it is historic type shit.

I was like you.

I was against it at first, but I think when we had Paul Heyman on and you asked him about it, his answer kind of turned me before I saw it.

And then I was seeing the clips.

I haven't saw it and watched a full episode yet, but the clips have been banger after

every clip is

been great because it's bringing it to the business.

A lot of smart people in wrestling.

A lot of smart people in wrestling.

Well,

I think that's what's being showcased.

Like, hey, you guys think this is all just like some knockoff bullshit.

They've never won an award, like from the mainstream.

WWE has never won an Emmy.

They've never won anything for anything that they've ever done because I don't think they've ever been.

They've always been like, oh, that's wrestling.

That's wrestling.

I think what Unreal is showing is like, hey.

There's a lot that goes into this with some very big brains.

Like these are, now granted, are they brain surgeons?

No.

Certainly not.

Are Are they able to do, but in the wrestling world, entertainment, telling stories, controlling crowds, controlling everything?

It's like, it's unbelievable.

I think it's very good.

I was a non-believer.

I told them not to mic me up.

I'm like, I don't know this shit.

That's what I said.

As if I matter.

They asked me to beat it.

I'm like, nah, I'm not doing this shit.

This ain't.

I look forward to watching when I get the chance for sure.

For sure.

Well, we can't wait to watch your team continue to bust ass through training camp.

You guys thump down there.

Feels like you guys are big-time hitters.

Mad Mad respect.

They almost like killed Jalen Noel.

I'm pretty sure.

I think it was Petrie.

Yeah, how do you talk about that?

It was Higgins.

Yeah, Higgins.

He took a little bit of a shot today.

A little bit.

It was actually a clean hit.

He'll talk about it in a team meeting here in a little bit.

Hey, this happens, boys.

Welcome.

That's a clean hit.

That's going to happen every single time.

All right, we appreciate you, man.

Thank you for making time.

Appreciate you, fellas.

Thanks for having us on.

Ladies and gentlemen, the general manager of the Houston Texans, Nick Casario.

He mentioned that Omar fella.

Omar's the man.

He's the guy that made that whole thing happen.

Reached out to me cold last week.

Hey, hope you're great.

If you want to talk to anybody, we obviously are all back and everybody loves you.

I was like, Casario, stop by.

He goes, yeah, text me back the next morning.

Casari, good for Tuesday.

Perfect.

Easy.

Let's do it.

I appreciate them.

Texans have always been good to us.

Very, very, he's the very good.

Yeah, he's awesome.

He's always so good on the program.

Yeah, they're true to the kids of the South.

He gets it.

Like, he's under, he understands the,

He's a rational human.

Sometimes you don't always get that with GMs.

They think, oh, they're all consumed by the gig.

He seems like a real human still.

Well, him wearing the headset

whenever he was up in the booth with old buddy that was chewing.

Easter B.

That's what I was about to say.

Yep.

Easter B.

Like, he started with Easter B, and I was with Tamiko Ryans.

So who was the guy?

Coach Dave?

Oh, Dave Cole.

Cole.

Chewing his tongue.

Chewing his tongue.

He got a raw deal.

He got a raw deal.

He did get a raw deal.

Coach Dave Coley had no shot.

Plenty's holder for Josh McCann.

But what we, yeah, McCow never coached.

So the boys fought for Coach Dave.

That was an interesting time

for the Houston Texans.

And that was also his first year.

The Easter Bee's running shit.

This guy's chewing on his tongue, Lord, and winning games.

Never heard of him.

The owner had just died.

His son took over, and they were calling him Tommy Boy.

Yeah, yeah, I worry.

No, yeah.

The whole thing.

Man, they turned it around quickly, though.

I give him even more credit when you go back and think about what this whole franchise has been through.

Yeah, but how we got introduced is in the middle of that fire is happening is a general manager wearing a goddamn headset up in the booth and like wording things down.

It's like, hey, but

and no.

Okay, we don't need you doing that.

Then he comes on the show.

And he's like, yeah, I like to be on the headset because I like to know what we need, what they're looking for, how it operates.

It's like, oh, this guy's very, like, he's defending this.

You don't think a general manager with a headset's a little weird?

He said, there'll come a time, I think, whenever I probably won't do it, but I need to learn what our coaches are like, what our team's like.

I did it in New England.

England, I think we were okay up there.

It's like, oh,

yeah, I think you are.

I think it is a-okay, and he's done so much, so many different things in different parts of the building that you know, him learning that.

I mean, yeah, he's the guy, he's the right guy.

I don't like you calling the kings of the south, though.

Yeah, me neither.

Look at the banners broke up, count them.

They've won a division title in the last 10 years, right?

Well, we got a little dust on her.

There might be a little dust on our banners.

That doesn't mean we got more of them.

We do.

They've taken more banners down than they've put up in the last 10 years, actually.

That's true.

I still don't like that that happened.

I completely forgot about it until right now.

Me too.

I don't like that you feed them.

I don't, but I just remember.

I wish I didn't.

I didn't.

That thing.

Oh, right there.

Right there.

Unbelievable.

Wow.

Certainly.

You're on that team.

Yeah.

Would they take down

the

participant banner?

The shitty banner.

24-4.

The one that said

we made the AFC playoffs?

No.

Final four banner.

AFC Championship.

Championship.

AFC Championship runner-up.

Is that what the banner said?

No.

Finalist.

That really happened, though, like, honestly.

Oh, yeah.

They got rings.

Didn't you guys get rings?

Shut up.

Come on.

Enough.

It was a tough games.

It was a tough age.

It was a tough game.

Tough offseason after that.

A lot of reliving of that game, too.

Because who knows?

Two years.

A lot of Brady gets suspended until 2016.

They put the banner up.

You remember that?

Yes.

Tom Brady was using those balls.

It's a wild time to be alive.

Yeah, which was proven wrong.

Also, that was a witch hunt.

I'll have you know.

Just to make sure we're locked in on this 2015.

Hey,

we need to go camping here.

You know, we've talked about it enough.

We need to go camping.

I don't know if you know this, AJ, but there's football highlights all over the place.

If you're able to scroll, if you got active thumbs and you're on any social media platform, you're just seeing highlights from the NFL.

We were able to gather them, weren't we?

We were able to piece them together so that everybody can see all the great plays.

AJ, isn't that beautiful underneath that yarmulka?

You've been thinking, hey, I need to see all these things because I might not live on social media.

Yeah, I do see a lot of them on social media, but you guys do a great job of compiling and putting them together.

There's new ones every time you look, though.

That's the best part about this time of year.

And I will say there's new ones coming right before show starts, and then we send them in and foxy's like what am i what i gotta

it's yeah yeah the entire graphics uh video department uh does not love whenever teams have practices at 11 50 and things are coming out it's like so it's on the internet just put on the well we got to put it through a whole yeah do it yeah put it in there yeah fox well can i have a drink of water no foxy show starts at 10 minutes

we need up we need terry mclaurin and buddy baker yeah talking to each other on on the field.

Because that tells the story.

Buddy Baker's boots on the ground.

You just make it happen.

Fox says, yeah, it's just as easy as that.

But we appreciate everybody in the back because the practices are in the morning leading right up to our show.

And we try to gather all the highlights.

Ladies and gentlemen, let's go camping, shall we?

Hell yeah.

Tone thanks.

Let's go camping.

Let's go camping, brother.

Let's start.

Santa Clara.

In Santa Clara with the San Francisco 49ers, Christian McCaffrey, running a little

go route on number 46.

And he looks to be helping you in Pat.

fingertip grab obviously he flips wasn't touched could have finished that you know defensive guy let's put a hand on him yeah when he hits the ground of course probably a young guy quads look gigantic he looks explosive

right here boom throw his hand up i got him gone as soon as he was a if if he's even

He's leaving.

He's leaving.

And he knows that.

And Christian McCaffrey still has the burst clearly.

What a weapon to be back for the San Francisco 49ers.

Everybody's talked about the Niners having a disappointing season last year.

That started four days before the season started, whenever we found out that Christian McCaffrey had Achilles tendinitis and then that jumped from one side to the other side and then their entire season just never really got off now's the time to bet on the San Francisco 49ers I think seeing that great to see CMC back in full for absolutely now banged up at the wide receiver position but if you have 23 healthy along that offensive line and then they're big money quarterback they are in a good position to succeed so yeah 2-3 making plays at a beautiful sight for 49er fans big money tight end as well obviously george gets paid this offseason go ahead Tohome.

Yeah, let's head to Giants camp where we saw a full moon.

We've seen a lot of full moons.

That's Russ Wilson and the classic moon ball to Malik neighbors, who Strike said is having the camp of all camps in the city.

And then what?

The best.

What is that?

I think it was cleaning the top of a table.

Yes.

I think he was dusting off a table.

Like, there's a table there, and he's dusting it off.

Belt to A.

Belt to A.

I thought he was PTA.

No, what do you mean, belt to egg?

PTA belt to ass, bend your ass over.

Yada!

Yada!

Yada!

That's what he was doing?

Yeah.

Wow, I didn't know that.

I thought it was maybe a table.

Yeah, he's an elephant.

Left hand is up.

Straight winter.

Hey, look at that table.

How about the little boy in the back with the thumbs up?

Love him.

If we could pause on little boy, he's learned how to dust the table or make belt to ass.

You know, rewind a little bit.

And there he is, little boy in the book.

Loves it.

You see him.

Hey, thumbs up, Bub.

That's good shit, Bub.

We want to see more of that, bro.

Shout out to the Giants.

New era.

Same regime.

Can they win?

Malik Neighbors was being put in a conversation with Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Malik Neighbors.

Is Terry McLaurin Malik Neighbors?

That's what Peter Schrager said.

So that is what Giants fans are saying about Malik Neighbors.

They already have him as a top three guy, top four guy.

Maybe that is the case.

Maybe that happens with it, especially with the Dayball offense and Russell Wilson able to do his thing.

But

Tyron McCorn's been doing it for like 10 years.

So we shall see.

Hopefully Malik's able to do that.

Good highlight out of Russell Wilson.

I know Pittsburgh Steelers fans are like, that looks familiar, right?

Ain't that what you guys were thinking?

Listen, for six, seven weeks, he's going to give you incredible NFL football.

Okay.

And then, you know, stuff happens.

Let's head up to Cleveland.

We got Joe Flacco.

Look like that, a little bit of an 11-on-11 drill here.

Carson Swessinger, the first pick in the second round, little rookie on rookie crime to Dylan Sampson.

I don't know if this is a thud drill because it looked, he would, he didn't even think about rapping there.

Puts Dylan Sampson on his X.

AJ, what do you think about that one, Paul?

I thought this is a beautiful play.

Watch him scrape over the top.

And yeah, even if this isn't full stuff, also, credit to 4-3, the safety coming from boxing this polling line.

Look at him.

He's going down.

He doesn't even know.

He got boxes back two yards, AJ.

And he's on the right side on right shoulder.

He forces that right into him.

That's great.

Hey, that's a good fit there.

I think that's what people are doing.

Of course, team defense right there.

That's how you play to your leverage.

You know where your help's at.

I mean, look, all you need is a shoulder.

That's all I got to give you is my shoulder.

I'm going to knock you back right here at the line of scrimmage.

Beautiful play.

I mean, that's what happens.

You put on pads and you really start to see the guys that love ball and love contact.

AJ, how come not everybody can thump?

You know, because there's guys that are like known thumpers.

Is it like,

is it the explosion of people?

Like, you obviously hard hitter, but there's some guys that are the same size as you, same speed as you, for whatever reason, aren't hard hitters.

Like, I don't know if this guy's MO is, he's a hard hitter, but there's a chance that like he has lightning in his pads.

And there's just some some guys on teams that everybody gives a heads up to like hey this guy's different this guy hits different what is it

i don't know what's a good question though i've never really tried to put my finger on it it's obviously it's a mentality like first it starts with a mentality some people are just like missiles and they don't have any thoughts in their head of like repercussions.

If I go run my skull directly into this polling lineman, like all they know is I'm going to try to kill this dude and do my job.

And they don't think about it.

Some people, I think, may they measure them a little bit and think, okay, I don't want to get hurt on this, or I don't want to hit this guy full speed.

But it's also like a leverage thing.

And size doesn't matter.

We see guys that are small that are monster hitters.

It's all about leverage and pad level, I feel like, coupled with the mentality.

It's just, yeah, I don't know.

Some people come out of the womb like that.

They are just absolute kill.

That's what I'm saying.

I wonder if more guys are more explosive than others.

First guy that comes to my mind is Buddha Baker.

Like, if you just saw him on the street, you wouldn't think, but he on the field is an absolute assassin.

We know Bob Sanders was a guy, but he was built like he would knock you the fuck out.

And then Cam Chancellor, he's a big guy built like, so yeah, Eric Thomas was a huge, huge dude, but he would come down and lay that hand.

So yeah, I mean, I used to watch Clint Session.

North and South.

Yeah, I got

Quentin.

I used to watch Clint just to watch him kill people.

Oh, my God.

That was Y2J.

Y2CJ year.

Oh, CJ.

Yeah.

Chris Johnson or whatever.

And third play, Clint Session, helmet right to Chris Johnson's helmet.

I mean, it was, and that was, I had a chance to hang out with Clint a lot for a couple of years there.

And he's hilarious.

You need to understand that that guy is absolutely hysterical.

But like, Clan is like, hey, first quarter, one of these guys got to get one, you know?

And it's like,

that's a weapon to have on your team because everybody on the other team is like, hey,

this guy right here is

we need to have hands on this guy.

We cannot let him free.

And it was fun to watch him, but like, it feels like those guys, like, is this guy one of those guys?

Also, I mean, he was a walk-on at UCLA.

You go from a walk-on at UCLA to the first pick of the second round.

You're also a guy that knows how to practice and knows how to make splash plays to improve.

You know, that's that's probably a situation there where that helps and happens too.

Another guy for Cleveland that that's happening.

He better not touch Jerry Judy.

I know that much.

Yeah, well, Jerry Judy ain't worried about that.

Yeah, exactly.

He ain't getting Jerry Judy just did a milk check real quick before we were even talking about that guy.

Good.

He said, excuse me.

Another skill.

Guys that can avoid

big hits.

Marvin Harrison, G.Y.

Hilton, guys who can, little guys who usually,

I think Devontae does a good job at it

as well.

AB does a good job at that.

Tyreek, I think, does a good job staying out of shit.

You know, another guy that does that, we're going to head down to Saints camp.

And a great connection to end of the year last year,

Spencer Rattler to Rasheed Shaheed, who is the burner now for the New Orleans Saints early in this camp.

We don't know who the starting quarterback's going to be, but we know Rashid Shaheed's going to be a playmaker for the Saints team.

I love a good deep ball.

I also love number 22.

I love number 22.

Matthew Golden.

He did a lot of shit last year, right?

If I recall, we were doing a lot of Rashid Shaheed highlights, I think.

Very early though.

Great name.

I could feel the humidity through this footage.

Very hot.

Have you seen the Tyler Shuck stuff?

Because I did want to know.

He didn't throw the football.

Yeah, what happens, especially for you, D-Butt, when...

He won't throw the football, I guess.

I just saw a three.

Once again,

we can't judge everything.

But yeah, it's seven off.

Is this the rep right here?

Yeah.

There's four or five of them, I think.

It's good.

It's good defense, man.

Watch him pass this off.

Everything off.

Oh, yeah, we're talking.

Throw the ball.

Yeah.

Hold on.

How about this?

Game of two, bitch.

Yeah.

That's not a game.

That is.

First two dials he won't say.

Gain of four.

We got third and medium.

We're in a good spot.

That's smart football.

But they have like three of these they posted.

And the person that posted it was like, hey, this guy won't throw the ball, basically.

And, you know, he's a veteran.

He's a little bit older guy.

He played a lot of football in college.

Obviously, he's with Braum.

Braum, obviously, great quarterback coach and everything like that.

But it does feel like some of these young guys,

I'm not saying they weren't, that wasn't glue coverage.

I'm not saying that wasn't the case.

It look like Gary Payton knows the glue value.

You know, a bunch of islands.

But I think a lot of these young quarterbacks, there is a little bit of a hesitancy to throw it because you don't know, hey, that's open.

You got to throw that now.

You got to throw that now, which is what we're seeing from young quarterbacks, more specifically here, Tyler School.

You got to let it rip.

And that's what practice is for.

You know, you want to, if you throw it, because it's all about time in the NFL.

You can't wait for guys to get open.

You got to throw guys open.

And then another thing you learn as a quarterback in the NFL, incompletions aren't terrible.

Just throw it away and line up again.

Because scrambling, like, that's not realistic.

We're not getting better with that type of rep as a defense.

Nobody.

Yeah, with no, with no line, with no rush.

If there's a real rush out there and you scramble and you make time, that's one thing.

But no rush, you're doing that, throw the damn ball.

Yeah, listening to the entire defense talk shit to that kid would have been fun, but I don't know if they're talking shit down in New Orleans.

It's 150 degrees.

Kellen Moore went out.

Kellen Moore went out there the first day to speak.

Kelly Moore.

And

it was my first time really hearing him as a head coach.

And, you know, I think back to Boise State, Kellen, like,

kind of same era here, young head coach, him talking to that crowd.

We like

that it's hot.

We really like that this is as hot.

He said, that's the first thing he said.

And I was like, ah, that sounds like a guy that did not fully prepare for how fucking hot it was.

They started moving that training camp to West Virginia.

Yeah.

West Virginia hot as shit.

West Virginia, very hot, especially in the summer.

They started getting out of there for how I couldn't imagine a training camp down in Louisiana.

Think about the high school kids that play down there in Louisiana.

Seriously.

Like, was Arch down there?

Sure was.

Oh, was he?

I didn't know.

So he's been through the Louisiana training camp his whole life.

I mean, he's in Texas already, though.

So it's not as if...

I mean, Texas gets up to 120 in the summer, anyways.

Yeah, so he's got that just natural.

Yeah.

He does.

Grit.

Who do you think is going to be better this year?

Between?

DJ Lagway, Arch Manning.

I have a hard time picking against Arch.

I really do.

Me too.

Now, DJ Lagway last year with Florida.

Yeah.

Dog.

And I did a little more research because D-Butt, I love Arch, manny.

Love him?

That's what he's doing.

That is what he's doing.

He's waited his turn.

He's been in the meetings.

He's taking practice rep.

He's got a great offensive coach.

He will be surrounded by great talent.

If you're asking me, just like you asked AJ that same question, this year I'm going with Lagway.

All right.

Listen.

And I think they'll both be great, but I will pick probably Lagway this year and then kid from South Carolina.

I think those guys will probably be the top two guys.

I think Lenore Sellers is number one in everybody's eyes, I think, even for the NFL next year.

But Aaron's brother, Jordan,

came out from SEC Media Days.

I think he said, like, Arch is like the sixth or seventh best quarter.

This is all overhype, and I'll like, he really said that.

Really?

Yeah, in the SEC.

In the SEC, in the SEC.

And I was like, holy shit.

And then D-Butt comes in.

I got Lagway overall.

I'm like, are we talking about the same guy right now I don't like

guy bro Arch Heise Manning that's how I see it happening that is literally how I see it taking place but I think my

and this might be just because of my relationship with the family it's like this boy

this boy's promise just like Peyton and Eli were you know there's videos of Peyton and Eli whenever they're just little boys in Gatorade commercials and shit like that like hey these guys are created to be professional football players and And that's the whole thing, not just on the field and how you throw a ball and all that, how you interact with teammates, how you lead, how you show up, how you work.

It was like,

Arch has been going to the Manning Passing Academy since he's four years old.

So in my eyes, hearing Jordan Rogers say that he's going to be the sixth or seventh best quarterback in the SEC, I'm like, I don't know.

Man, I didn't even think of that.

I didn't even think of that.

I just thought, Arch is going to win national championship with Texas this year.

He's going to win the Heisman.

Like, that is literally just how I view the Manning operation.

He's a better athlete, too, than the other ones that we see.

Well, I mean, that's like you said,

the amount of talent he's going to have around him at Texas.

There's going to be some wide receiver that we've never heard of that is going to run 4-1 this year somehow at Texas.

And Sarkeesian's offense is all of it.

And also, like, once again, close to the situation.

Have literally known Arch and seen Arch since he's like a little boy, you know, in this entire thing.

He got knocked the fuck out against Ohio State.

No questions asked.

Knocked out.

Up.

Right back at it.

He's at the cookout.

You know, he's at the cookout, and then he's losing his student ID multiple times.

Playing with the boys, yeah, first week.

It's like this guy is a manning.

Like, this is literally manning football.

Lightweight battle too last year.

Yeah, he made the boys fought for Napier last year.

I agree.

I can't wait to watch.

That's why they got to play the game.

Coming out in the two highest-rated quarterbacks of the last 20 years.

And then Nusk, Don Aaron, LSU.

Yeah, they're talking about Texas.

Also, as the one.

Diego Pavia.

Diego Pavia is obviously a dog.

So I didn't, but whenever Aaron's brother said that, George, I was like,

I was literally mind-blowing while I was watching it.

And then you came in, like, literally a day later, I got lagway over Arch.

I'm like, am I?

Well, you asked the question.

Am I completely

misreading this information?

Well, Feinbomb said he was the greatest quarterback since.

We don't need to hear that.

We don't need to hear that.

The preseason voting, as far as first team, second team, third team in the SEC, went Sellers, Nussmeyer, and then Arch.

Hey, first two words of that sentence.

Say it again.

Feinbomb it never do that again on the show

appreciate that okay uh let's go camp in here as we got one yeah let's go let's go camp let's go out to arizona we got buckeye on buckeye crying one-on-ones we got marvin harrison jr we had neighbors on earlier this was his 10 wide receiver draft pick from last season he's looking buff he's looking good a big second season for marvin harrison jr probably coming here a lot of being talked about marv a lot of being talked about marv because how it went i think arizona cardinals in general have underwhelmed a lot of people i think they're primed for a big breakout year and also, if we're going to stay in West Coast, don't be scared of the Raiders.

Listen, don't be scared to take the Raiders.

I'm saying you should be scared of the Raiders.

Pete Carroll, I'll put a little pressure on the partner turners.

We're not covering Don.

We're not blocking.

We're not doing the entire thing.

These guys need to feel a little athleticism in their face.

Let's see who's got it, who doesn't.

This dude's 100 years old.

Look at him.

Proper leverage, get him to the sideline.

There's a white here that's returning in about a second, and he shakes the shit out of Pete Carroll.

And I don't know how Pete didn't fall, right?

Did not fall.

Okay.

That's an 80-year-old, right?

How old is he?

Yeah, like 70 or 70 or something.

Yeah, he's like very,

how does he not fall?

And then he's spinning it.

They got him spinning it.

He's throwing like 30 yards still.

Pete Carroll might be in the best shape of any 70-plus human on this earth.

He's a dog.

And he's not scared to talk his shit.

Hey, for 20 years, I've won 10-plus games.

We're going to win here.

I believe it.

I mean, the energy is immaculate.

And the Raiders could be all the way back.

Don't look now.

The Raiders might not be

Shiny.

Please.

All right, we continue on YouTube and everywhere else.

We'll see you tomorrow.

From Pittsburgh.

Goodbye.

Ah, we're in La Trope.

Yeah, this ain't different.

From Pittsburgh, Steelers.

Steelers training.

Late truth.

How far are you going?

We're going to drove from Pittsburgh.

An hour from downtown, 45 minutes from Plum where we grew up.

Okay.

Yeah.

East Hill is where we are.

You know, because there's so many different.

We'll be able to navigate traffic, bro.

Debo, you ever go to any training camps as a kid?

We're not anywhere near Pittsburgh.

No, no dolphins camp or anything?

No,

never.

It's too hot in Florida in August to go watch a practice outside.

Oh, no, no.

Really anywhere.

Yeah, right now.

I'll south Florida.

It's falling off, though.

Absolutely not.

Yeah, Thursday is what I've been told when it starts.

The rain yesterday, pretty real.

Yeah, and then it got real muggy.

Yeah, and then it was greenish last night.

Did you see that?

The sky?

Yeah.

Yeah, the sky the last two nights has been insane.

Yeah, green, like tornado-y feel almost when I'm looking outside, but it's at the sunset time.

So I'm like, is this sunset or is this like tornado feel i think we had some wind i think we had i had a tree uh limb that fell out on this it's like indiana though you can literally any moment can fucking

and get 60 70 mile an hour winds out of nowhere or you can get a full torrential downpour out of nowhere i mean that's classic midwest football right there but it's been hot everywhere dude i couldn't imagine

oh my

how much hotter are the guardian caps the guardian caps feel like it would make my me much hotter in my my helmet.

Because you can't breathe.

The helmet can't breathe.

What if you had a guardian cap and a visor?

You're just living in a sauna right there.

That's a bad thing.

That'd be awful.

Yeah, the visor, I know it looks cool.

The happen to.

Did you advise her?

You were a visor guardian?

Yeah, you looked very cool.

Had to.

Did you have to get used to it, D-Butt?

It was weird at what.

Different.

I tried it for like one practice in college, and just like the angle of the lens was just weird for me to see.

Yeah, obviously, and fog.

Yeah, no, the Oakley ones were always good.

I never liked the other one.

I tried a Nike one when they first came out because I think we kind of had to, but I just stuck with Oakley.

Just had to black out the O.

But yeah, Oakley's never let me down.

I put a visor on for a training camp practice, and it didn't reach all the way down to where my

change of helmets.

Yeah, I had like a nice little space.

Sick.

It was actually pretty distracting because the ball was going from shade

to

a dark visor.

yeah a dark visor yeah for sure for practice like paints frog put it on yeah put it on put i need a i need a visor today i think it'd be hilarious i'll walk out there with it it was it was but i it was not good for my profession bad day of practice bad day

with a dark visor you know with that hair yeah especially with his big lug head that he has

you ever have guys go out and train in uh warm-ups in the nfl with a sweet like uh mirror visor a real dark tint and then obviously make the poor training staff take it off put a clear one on the game i love you saying the poor training staff because that was like some guys

go flex this and practice what?

Cleats, socks, visor.

And then what are you going to wear for the game?

Yeah, I got to change it all for the game.

It's like, well, who's doing that?

Clubing staff.

For God.

They got nothing else going on right now.

No, no, yeah.

Heck, you changed these 10 visors because we're not allowed to wear those in the game, but they looked sweet in warm-ups.

I think they need to just let any visor go.

Yeah.

I think any visor.

That's a medical thing.

For guys are on the field.

Yeah, exactly.

So you can get obviously the medical exemption for.

Oh, that's why.

So if you get knocked out, they can look at your eyeballs and see if you're there.

We could get around that.

Yeah.

We got to cut your visor off with a little scissors or something.

Skill saw.

Or just a blut, brut.

Because I think you can just stand on the bottom.

Face mask.

Yeah.

Masonry?

Or if the guy's just

knocked out dead unconscious, we know whether he has a visa on or not.

I can kind of tell.

No, it's a sting.

It's a stinger.

Yeah.

Ah, ooh.

Shoulder.

I gotta go out one play.

Oh, man.

Full body.

Yeah.

Arms up in the air, too.

Stealing?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not after.

Raiders.

Raiders running back.

Stinger.

Try not to stumble.

You can't stumble.

Yeah, you gotta get up.

Yeah, take your time.

Stinger.

Get on the knee.

Gotta get on the knee for a second.

If you stumble, you gotta jog it off like you're in the airport and you hit that sketch, you know, that little slippery floor.

You've seen that Edelman Amendola thing.

It's uh oh, yeah,

shoulders.

We get a timeout, we get 30.

My foot stinger.

You were dead two seconds ago.

Nah,

double stinger.

My arm's good.

I was trying to figure out what shoulder.

He go over there and they start doing it.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

Yeah, it's good.

It's just cramped.

Must have been a cramp.

Hydration.

Need to get back out there.

Yeah, that was...

And that was one good teammate.

Shout out Ewall.

Shout out Ewal.

This motherfucker's dead.

We're not putting him back out there.

He said he has a stinger.

He's not a fucking stinger.

Guy had his eyes closed.

What, 45 seconds out?

Literally thought, thought we had to get a fucking body bag for the guy.

There's no idea what play we're running right now.

Diva, get your fucking ass out of here.

Stinger.

All right.

See you later.

That still happened.

Are guys still fighting through stuff like that?

I hope.

Yeah, I would think so, yeah.

Definitely.

I hope.

It's not good, obviously.

I mean, we're not in college.

If I'm building a team, if i'm if i'm an owner i mean we just talked about arch right there literally my team i would like guys to uh say it's stingers if they get knocked out with that being said i would like us to have uh good medical stuff i would like us to have good eyes

to make sure that that does not yeah exactly we need a couple unaffiliated neurological unaffiliated yeah you remember our coaches those unaffiliated

former players sting him stinger said of stinger die go back in oh yeah coaches coaches also are supposed supposed to do that.

That's the Onks' job to pull you up.

So I would like to say, if I was an owner, I would invest in Unks, okay?

But I would be looking for players that would be trying to lie to the Unc's.

That is the goal.

Patriot works.

Colts got one, too.

I mean, I've never seen anyone hit their head as hard as Tyler Warren on the sideline in the Orange Bulls.

Oh, my God.

In my life.

So cold now.

That was back of his head.

And it was on like the tarped area.

A little to the

left of the sideline.

Yeah, he was back in the game.

I thought he was dumb for the entire game.

He was back in the game two plays later.

Jackson Dart, we talk about him

against Florida, right?

Is that who it was?

Against Florida?

Clearly.

Speculation, yep.

Will Howard.

Will Howard.

Will Howard gets knocked out right back in.

Michigan, yeah.

Yeah, it's Riley Leonard, actually, in that same game against Penn State.

Got depleted.

Peanut butter and jelly came in.

Yeah.

The one minute 20 drive before the half.

Peanut jelly and jelly.

Yeah.

National championship, too, Riley Leonard, after that 17-play drive.

He's going to be puking on the sideline and just like you know yeah so I think yes

what we're saying is yes it is still Nico Iamali off a three helmet he was on his third helmet he broke two helmets against you guys in that entire thing that whole situation is weird the Nico situation yeah big showcase game first first week of the season Saturday night 11 p.m.

against Utah

the Utes are tough always going to be tough but it is at the Rose Bowl as opposed to being in front of the the mus the must the a lot of Utah students say mighty must.

Must.

I thought it was the biggest us.

I thought it was a bus.

Or if Coach Wingham's going to ride his motorcycle to LA.

It'd be a great ride from Utah to LA.

Oh.

Try to hop right over there to get on the Pacific.

Yep.

PCH.

There it is.

Coast Highway.

Oh, my God.

My wife posted a photo of us from like six years ago.

We're on a bike.

It was such a good time.

You know, if they could take care of these fucking roads, it would be nice to get back on that motorcycle.

Yes, it would.

You know, there's people riding in Indiana, and I'm like, at red lights, I'm rolling it down.

Like, so you just are you just looking the whole time straight down like this?

Just trying to avoid these trenches that we have across the streets around you?

I mean, even when Kyle Larson came in and he had a McLaren, it's like, how do you drive a car like that in Indiana?

Like, it would just get ruined.

How many tires did you burst on your way here?

Two?

Just two?

Yeah, oh, okay.

These streets have, I think, everybody's gotten right.

They've gotten all of us.

They've gotten me two tires.

I think my

yeah, I mean, I've yeah, Docs lost.

Tesla got one.

I think when I had a Tesla, I got one.

Well, who's

nobody?

I saw you, buddy.

Your Bentley was just sitting in the parking lot with a flat tire.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Dox had 12 flat tires.

Yeah.

You doesn't know it, though.

This guy's going around on these rims.

On the escalate?

On the escalade?

Yeah, I walked outside.

He's giving Mitt a real run.

Yeah, we haven't figured it out driving with her cube as a tire.

2025.

How are we still getting flat tires?

Did you see the

alien spray?

Alien spray?

Mm-hmm.

What is that?

I did not.

I think you sprayed it in all the tires.

You're good.

Good to go.

It's the new

flex seal.

It's the new flex seal.

I do fix-a-flat in my tires all the time when they're always leaking.

So, yeah, I jam it in there.

Yeah, I'm not scared to do a little fix-a-flat.

I think the alien spray is what we need to go to next.

I saw a lady just spraying it into the sky to showcase the bottle.

I don't know what it's sealed up, but certainly something.

It really was.

I saw somebody driving a car through a pot, or maybe a no, the flex seal was the boat.

The boat.

Yeah, I'm spraying the whole boat.

Oh, yeah.

The screen screen.

Do you remember that?

Yeah, slice the bottom out of the boat and then flex seal it all back up.

It feels like alien spray is coming for flex.

Without a doubt.

Oh,

look the exact same.

Do they have

as good as a spokesman for that?

I didn't know who was doing the alien spray.

package.

Oh, it's Jim Gator.

It's a big time do-it-yourself Instagram influencer.

He's awesome.

They got Jim Gator.

I got to see this guy.

Massive, massive Florida Gator fan.

He's usually decked out in blue and orange.

I watch his stuff on Instagram.

He's great.

He fixes everything.

Told you.

I didn't know he was J-M-G-A-T-O-R.

I've seen this guy.

Yeah.

He's great.

Check out his Instagram page.

He's legit.

Yeah.

Amen.

Jim Gator.

Jim Gator, yeah.

Man, I didn't know he went corporate.

No, he got a deal.

He created this.

It's not corporate.

Look, he went through a fucking car washed me.

You see that?

That's what he said right now.

Still holding up well.

You see that?

It's totally dark.

That's Gator's wife.

Is that a Gator fam?

Yeah, it's Mrs.

Gator.

Okay, I might start sealing my gutters and stuff.

That's what I'm saying.

This is the new Flexo.

I just saw this yesterday, and I'll tell you what, Jim Gator sold the shit out of it.

Got to wait for the time of the commercial where she's just spraying it into the sky.

That's really good, I think.

Oh, my.

Look at that.

There it is.

There it is.

Oh, that's not.

That's a screen.

Oh, it's a screen.

Oh, wow.

Oh,

I didn't see the rest of that commercial got cut off there.

Who's this guy?

That's Gator Boy.

Yeah, one of the Gators understudies.

That's a little young gator boy.

Lil Gator.

That's young Gator.

Oh, that's that's a little gator.

That's little Gator.

Speaking of, I think there's an Al Gator hunt coming up.

Is there?

I think so.

Okay, I see you there.

I think there.

You can feel in concrete cracks, too.

I don't think that's a good thing.

Oh, wow.

I actually didn't do that.

I mean, I had a lot of flexible.

I might have to get some of this, too.

Is it the, did they get the, did they just get like the patent patent zoo running

wouldn't do that no way Jim don't care what flex seal has tape they have the rubber stuff they had flexible

got tape and rubber

obviously not yet not in this info

Jim Gator is like Jordan you kind of just give him the ball and you tell him to go score you know he's not he doesn't have a script he's just going there I think he created that alien spray huge chance yeah back there in the gator kitchen what'd you say no I thought he was gonna put a bunch of water in that uh bucket after he sprayed it.

He did.

That was a miss.

That was a miss on his barked off.

Well, he's just telling you what.

It could be.

Okay.

Fucking bucket.

It works again.

Toss it.

Yeah.

That's what he said.

I believe that guy.

Nick, so you follow Lagoons, dude.

Lucas Lagoons.

Lucas Lagoons.

Lucas Lagoons.

There go.

You follow Mr.

Gator here.

He also follows Man and Old Woman from Lucas Lagoons.

Okay, so we follow the entire team.

Any other random things?

French drain man.

You should follow French Drain Man.

He's really good.

French Drain Man?

You know, French Drain, you know, like perforated pipe, you put your bury in the ground, gravel, you put fabric.

Yeah, he does great work all over.

Do you follow Frank Moraldo?

No, does he do French drains?

It's good.

It's lovely.

It's concrete, brother.

He could knock one out if need be.

Yeah, concrete is outrageous.

Every once in a while, he'll put a video up and you can tell he's fucking proud of what they did.

Oh, yeah.

Just a scared.

He posted up.

He puts it online for everybody.

Yeah.

It's a great follow.

It's a great follow.

Good concrete.

Good concrete.

You know, it's funny you ask, Pat.

I was thinking, and recently, our friend AP Tone, Ton Diggs, introduced me to this account, Santo LLC.

It's all about cars getting stuck on the beaches.

Down in Florida.

And they've got a whole tow crew that comes out on the beach.

Oh, Santo, T-O-W.

Yes.

I didn't know if it was like Golden Toe.

Like you guys were cheating.

That's a great follow.

They get them out of the sand.

Everybody's stuck.

It's great.

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I like that.

They got me some real jams in there sometimes.

They got me.

I just bought a bunch of tow ropes.

They're in my just in case.

Yeah, just in case.

That's smart because we got a lot of beaches around here.

So whenever we get some of these people,

those potholes.

You got a wench on your truck?

No, I do not have a wrench, but that's why I got a wench.

Yeah, that's why I got a

soft buckle.

Of course.

Yeah, it's all good.

You never understand.

We would never understand.

Sorry, a soft shackle.

Have you seen that Jeep that I bought for $100,000 down there in Amika?

You might go.

We'll tow it right after the show.

Tow it, yeah, right.

That thing's pulling you, brother.

I got things on the front and the back.

My truck will pull your Jeep backwards.

Your truck will not fucking touch my goddamn Jeep.

If we're going to strap that thing up, I'm pulling you to another time's.

No!

That thing hasn't been turned on in years.

It's ready.

It is ready to pull it off.

Always remember that thing.

What was that cafe?

cafe

my truck pull your truck

that was at the dugout in fountain square my truck pull your truck backwards there's my ex-husband beat his ass

two o'clock in the afternoon two o'clock in the afternoon on a sunday it was the greatest uh interaction i've ever been a part of in public guy pulls up in a big truck

downtown indianapolis one part of a huge truck it must have been like a 350 it appeared you know had big had uh diesel powered as well a couple custom modifications you could tell yeah you could tell he loved his truck.

He did have duels, yeah, the whole thing.

He pulls up, his ex-wife, I guess, is there with another guy.

Yep.

And that guy has a truck, too, I guess.

Man,

that fucker ain't shit compared to the truck that he had.

And then the ex-wife, she was not trying to calm things down.

No, no.

She didn't want the trucks to fight.

She wanted them to fight.

What?

These videos,

is the lady ever trying to calm it down or is she trying to insert herself at all times?

Well, she's trying to fight for her current man, if it appears.

But at that exact moment, I don't think she was trying to fight at all.

I think she was trying to get them to go ahead and scramp right there in front of all of us.

Wintertown.

I mean, the guy got up and went

backwards hat-on, cargoes and flip-flops, and he was heading over to that truck to beat her ex-husband's ass.

He was ready.

Now, I didn't.

The ex-husband actually utilized the power he had under that hood and got out of there.

But he looked pissed with that truck.

I think there was probably a gun in there too.

If I had to guess, if he turned around right there, there was probably a couple different options.

So I'm happy none of that took place.

We were just trying to enjoy Espresso Martini in the afternoon.

That was awesome.

I wish we could go back to that moment, just having the phones out, like filming already, so that we could capture the whole thing.

I wish more things like that would happen in front of us.

Agreed.

Anytime I see these things on the internet, like these types of moments, I'm always like, What would I do?

It's a shooting star.

Why can't you fucking put me in one of these?

You get different moments now, better ones that require you to now build a gate.

Oh, yeah.

It's a great neighborhood.

I'm in a great neighborhood.

Yeah.

But

is it normal for people just to walk and drive through your driveway?

Like just, ah, yeah, this is our world.

Stand in your yard.

Just stand in your yard.

Turn around in your driveway.

Like to turn around your driveway?

Not just turn around.

Just fucking

hey, let's hang out here.

Yeah, more so like, hey, pretty good view here.

We'll take some photos of the house.

Then it's a nice house.

Holy shit.

People are ballsy.

Yeah.

It's private property.

The, you know, there's a big fucking sign at the end of the thing, but that's what I thought I was moving into.

It's not.

That was Bill Gutenberg.

I got a park.

I run a park, I guess, in a house.

People just come hang out, fucking ride their bikes, park them.

Go ahead and fish off my yard.

Yeah, go.

Any of these people get hurt.

I'm getting sued for everything.

That's the other thing about fishing off the back.

They don't have to be in your yard to fish near your place.

I mean, what was the light?

You had the lights.

Oh, yeah.

We had a guy night fishing the other night out in the lake.

It was awesome.

Just had a Splunker light on, like you did when you were cutting your grass at midnight yeah and he was just spotlighting my house just every time he was out he was out on a boat or where was it yeah out on a boat anytime he would uh lift his head up you see he was just spotlighting my house you know 11 30 midnight no problem just a spotlight coming in my windows i'm like we're in war right now what what did i get swatted

i thought i got swatted go out there nope just

so i go out hey man i hope you catch everything you guys are looking for out there can you please stop putting a spotlight in my house?

You know, dogs are going crazy.

Got a daughter sleeping.

I hope you catch everything.

You do whatever the fuck you want to do.

But if you're going to do that, can you just

shoot to the other side of the, can you get your house?

Angle it down a little bit.

I think they caught a lot.

There was a lot of this.

Was he understanding?

Did you fire a few warning shots out there?

They laughed.

They laughed.

They didn't even, obviously, didn't even think about where that light.

Oh, shit.

Good people.

All these people are good people.

It's just like,

it's nine o'clock at night.

Why are you just standing in in my driveway taking photos of my house?

You know, like, is that a that's weird?

That feels like a weird,

yeah.

But I'm the bad guy for saying, Keen.

No, you're not.

I am.

I am.

Next time, just remember Bryce Harper.

Not to any rational human, you're not.

I do maybe need to take a bat out there.

Take a page out of his book.

Get the fuck out of my driveway.

Yeah.

Just the whole thing.

If you want to talk about salary cap.

Dude rode a bike, okay, down this private property.

Once again, I cannot keep saying this enough private property where we are at long road down to it dude rides his bike parks it in my driveway kickstand right in front of my house walks out into my field lays a blanket down lays a blanket down in my yard wow pops out a book has a glass of wine living his life just he had to think so he thought it was like a park i have no idea

what he thought it was a park or he knew it was your yard it's a problem

55 years old 40 whatever it was.

He was an adult.

This was not like a child.

Just showed up with a had a little bag, fucking, let me go get some wine, read a book, fucking blanket in my yard.

It's impossible to think it's a park, too.

Like, there's, you drive by a garage.

It's private.

Like, there's a whole.

It's a payball gun.

Well, so that's a whole nother thing.

Like, I don't want to be a bad neighbor here.

Freeze him.

Feels like previous owner is a little bit older.

Definitely frozen if we're shooting him out there.

Not going to do that.

Previous owner of house, I think.

Kids are older and out of the house, so I think they enjoyed potential like

but they probably knew them.

If you know them, it's different.

I don't know if they knew them, to be honest.

I don't know how you know that many people that are coming through here.

So, I move in, and it's like

this ain't how this goes.

I got a fucking two-year-old that would like to hang out, and also, I got a lot of people that say they want to kill me on a regular basis.

I assume you're not one of the people that wants to kill me, of course.

Hopefully, are you?

You're at my house at 11 o'clock at night, standing in my driveway all by yourself, taking pictures of my house.

What are you doing?

Are you you planning to do it?

So now I'm the, it's an interesting dynamic.

I will say it's an interesting dynamic in this whole world.

You know, it's an interesting thing.

And lucky to do it, lucky to have it.

I don't think people should be having picnics in my yard, though.

No, probably not.

Just not

if any of them get hurt, like that's my, my biggest fear is like, oh,

this is,

and you're going to.

Here we are.

Now you own them.

No, don't worry, trespassing with the signs.

You're off the hook for stuff like that.

Okay.

I don't know if the city would be okay with it, but you could maybe set up like a sentry gun or something like that.

And like at 11 o'clock, you just turn that thing on.

And if somebody, you know, is trespassing out of your yard,

actual.

Yeah, yeah.

Like a real sentry.

Did you ever see Congo?

Mm-hmm.

No.

Oh, yeah.

They set up those sentry guns and the gorillas came at night for them.

Those gorillas were in for something.

I don't, I also don't want to be that neighbor.

You know, like, I'm in a, it's a,

I'll tell you, my wife does not love it.

I will say, Samantha does not enjoy random people just showing up at our house, taking pictures of it, and hanging out for a while.

Uh, a little bit alarming,

but you know, maybe we get used to it,

maybe, yeah, maybe we just let them in the house.

There you go, maybe we just open a door, yeah, we got an extra bedroom if you guys want to go in.

Hey, we happen to live in the same zip code, I guess, so just fucking

come on in, mine is yours, let them read a book on the couch.

And I'm sure you've, I'm sure you're

sure you're not somebody that hates hates my fucking guts, in which there are a lot of people.

Val and Chuck are great.

You need an actual Doberman.

Get a couple of them, yeah.

Shepard.

I mean, that is real.

Absolutely.

And they will patrol the property.

Yeah.

Maybe I get one of those Shepherd wolves.

It's not a bad idea.

Get a Belgian Malinwa.

That thing will fly out there.

Have you seen the video that's been going viral about the difference between a Mal and a Shepherd?

Yeah, I had both.

I've had both of them.

So they have...

So you haven't seen the video, though.

You just happened to know that they both exist.

No, I saw the video.

Shepherd went around it, and Malinois said, shoot, I'm going straight by.

That is exactly right.

There was a room full of like wheelchairs, chairs and wheels, like we have right here, maybe a hundred of them.

Somebody in the corner, in the back corner, and the shepherd like finds a path around the chairs.

Very impressive to get side, boom.

And then they let this Belgian Malwa, what is it?

Malinois.

This thing, from where it's standing, jumps up, runs on top of the chairs, and just,

yeah, it was insane.

It was absolutely...

These are the new dogs.

If any of them were going to smell COVID, it would have been the Mao, the Belgium.

Not the German dogs, great dogs.

German Shepherds are great dogs.

But this Belgium one, I guess, they're a little wired.

You've owned both of them, you said?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I had a Belgian Mao one we got when she was two years old.

She did all that.

I had great videos of her.

Doing everything, jumping up, you know, climbing walls, biting things.

It's great.

Are they the dogs that did the dog sports?

Remember whenever they used to do the dock jumping?

You ever seen those dogs?

Oh, yeah.

They can jump, but you don't really see those very often in that.

They're military dogs.

They jump out.

They're strapped to dudes jumping out of airplanes and stuff.

And they have night vision goggles on.

These dogs.

And just landing.

They're all parachute.

We go this way.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's do this.

And they're just off and running.

Dogs are special.

They really are.

Yeah, I feel like greyhounds are usually the ones that are doing those.

I don't think so.

The running jumps into the water.

The jumpers?

They are the sprinters.

The greyhounds are the sprinters.

Yeah, greyhounds are huge.

They're like the size of horses.

Greyhounds are gigantic horses.

Border collies, I know, are leapers like that.

Pit bulls, too, right?

Aren't pit bulls really good climbers?

I think pit bulls have like incredible.

Yeah, they always show those videos.

Like they'll hang something and they'll, yeah, like run off the wall and then get it like a piece of meat that's hanging down from like a you know deal.

Did you send in a dog jumping?

No, I've found the shepherd or the maw mawa.

Yeah, this is is the video that's running this thing.

Look at this.

We don't have it.

Okay, there's the shepherd.

Smart.

Let's go ahead.

I'm going to go get this piece of shit.

And you're mine.

That's good.

Here's the mile.

And

yep.

Boom.

Right to you.

Jeez.

When you talk about blinders, on.

Yeah.

Literally all that dog saw.

What arm am I trying to get?

Oh, it's right there.

Fuck.

Why did George the German go around all these things?

You just go right through this.

I'm about sick of it.

Yep, there we go.

Good luck.

Sounds like you need to get a couple of them.

I do.

I do need them.

Be sweet.

Yeah, two of them.

Just get electric fence.

I saw a video.

So I already have one, I think.

Okay, man, just get that collar on there.

Just keep them up.

I saw a video of four dogs in the driveway with this dude's little daughter.

And some, not random guy, but one of their friends walks up to the driveway, and all four dogs walked up to him.

Like, what's up, dude?

Yeah, it was awesome.

Yeah, McKenzie's relationship with our dogs are awesome yeah and cats very cool her and the cats get along as well these cats interesting i like cats i like the way they operate you ever have a cat i had a few that uh were outdoor situations for a while

that's it though i've never i don't know cats kind of scare me man i'm still i'm skittish around cats i never grew up with one never been around them knowing until then me neither me neither never been around cats teddy the first cat i've ever been around awesome he's garfield he's actually garfield great cat Great cat.

Unbelievable.

Fat, huge, fat cat that just has a little pizzazz, has a little pizzaz.

We got Nova, who is a street cat.

She's awesome.

Her and McKenzie have developed a race.

And then we got Sebastian, this black cat that is just like, he's, he feels, he thinks he's a lion, you know.

And when he walks in the room, he would like attention, you know, and if you don't, he will turn his ass around and he will come back.

Like he's like, excuse me, nothing is said.

Turn around.

Okay.

Then he'll come in, then he'll jump up on a fucking thing that's like six feet high, land on it.

Hello, and it's like, well, hello, Sebastian.

How you doing?

And he rubs his head on you.

It's like, good to see you.

Cats are awesome.

They take care of themselves.

They shit in their own area.

They piss in their own area.

They got their own little water thing.

They're basically.

I respect them.

I have a ton of respect for them.

I just, I never, I don't know.

Like, just their, how sharp their teeth are and how small their mouth is and their claws.

I just don't.

I'm never that comfortable.

You never been around them?

Not

much, but it creeped me me out a little bit

so they also when they get like really happy they like start uh like rubbing their paws like this kind of maybe yeah i've never been around like a happy cat all these cats are happy they're fat as fuck the amount of cats stay to theirselves yeah scootsy we have a three-legged cat she's awesome she's great that back things like a little rudder right

she's flying around you get a little catnip though it's a show they go crazy they'll start middle of the night it'll sound like we're in a goddamn uh jungle book or what was the

movie Robin Williams was in the museum?

Jumanji.

Jumanji.

Oh, Night at the Museum.

Night at the Museum, maybe.

That is what it was like, whenever they're all running.

Oh, yeah.

These four cats, every once in a while, they'll sync up on what run they're going to do through the house.

And it sounds like a fucking stampede is coming into the bedroom.

Like they are all running together, and we have hard floors, and they are all on it, and they're all striding.

I mean, like fucking striding out.

And then one of them will have a rough stop, you know, normally Scoots is because she's three-legged, but she's in the front, and they will slide right into a wall.

Boom.

And then you hear a,

and then everybody, like, checks on them, and then they head out to a new place.

Is there like a leader amongst them?

Sebastian.

Sebastian's the leader.

He's the fastest.

Nova, I think, is probably like the biggest dog out of all of them.

Like, Nova would attack.

Street cat.

Best-looking cat, too.

Nova.

The cat is like a very pristine.

Nova was.

Did they hang out together?

All of them?

Yeah, like, do they like sleep near each other and stuff?

So Sebastian and Scootsie, friends.

Teddy and Nova, the older ones, kind of get along.

Teddy, Teddy's not really about the shit.

Teddy,

you know, if he's running with him, I know he's either pissed off or they are chasing him.

Like he is not really a part of the group.

But Nova was in a dumpster at a steak and shake.

And my wife stopped late night at the steak and shake and just opened the door and she just jumped in.

And it was like, well, you're my cat now.

And she would, she, we had a dog uh that we were

when you're like watching it and gonna give it away what's foster fostering like a dog and the dog like uh got mad at valerie our dog and valerie got mad at her too i don't think valerie liked this dog in the house so like valerie and this dog kind of get into it a little bit and i have to like separate them and i come back and nova is like hair up at that dog and I'm like, what the fuck are you going to do, Nova?

She starts like circling the dog.

And I'm like, oh, nova would

maybe die here but she was at least gonna fight for it so i think they have a little dog in them as well i i've been very impressed with my cat life that i've had with uh sam i don't know how many more you know like we have four cats that's a lot of cats a couple of them old they go in litter they just they just know to go in the litter box is that how it works yeah every once in a while teddy though would just drop a dump somewhere that's teddy i think you could have

to bill has 15 and he's allergic to them and he uses them as a blanket every night so i don't know is that if he uses them as a blanket, I think they're holding him down on the bed.

That could be that.

So that's a delicious.

I mean, every week he gets a new one.

It's.

And they're all starved.

Someone's going to eat the bones.

They're not all starved.

That's not like...

Let's get out of here.

We're in Pittsburgh tomorrow.

Come join us.

Sorry, we're in Latrobe.

Should be fun.

Cast of a lot, I think, coming through from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Cannot wait to chit-chat with him.

Had some ex-players reach out to us about being on the show.

Don't think we're doing that this year.

2025 training camp.

Just going to be talking to a lot of the current operation.

Will be great to see whoever's up there, though, for sure.

Cannot wait to see everybody up there.

Maybe not good news.

It looks like practice right now is being potentially rained out, stormed out.

So today was supposed, today was first day of pads, which is normally when they do backs on backers and all of the first and goal line stuff like that.

So potentially we might get to see that tomorrow.

Right after our show ends, they're right into practice.

That'd be good.

That's a perfect setup for us.

Wow.

As soon as show ends, we just get to go watch practice.

That's a pretty

ideal setup, yeah.

Then we head over to Canton for the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Thursday.

We'll be there.

Come join us.

You can park right on the highway, I think.

Yeah, legit.

You can tailgate on the highway that's right outside of it, and I think you'll be able to.

Our set's like on the exit, right?

So, like, you're pretty much, you're all, you're good.

AJ, do you know that?

I had no idea.

Where.

So we've been there, yeah.

I mean, it's right off the highway, no question.

I did not know that it was

that close.

I mean, it is,

it's 10 feet in front of where this photo is, is there is a highway.

So I think we will,

we, we are pumped and honored to get to go over there.

I've never walked through the Hall of Fame.

Have you, AJ?

I've never walked through it.

I've been there multiple times for kids' games.

You'll see there's a ton of turf fields over there in the back.

They have tournaments, but I've never actually walked through it.

I love that the Hall of Fame is like an Ohio thing.

You know, it's Ohio High School plays there.

There's a bunch of kids' tournaments that's happening there.

I think the people that run it are Ohio Ohio people.

Like, it's like, I think great state of football, Ohio, to run the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

We cannot wait to get over there and experience it.

Legitimately cannot wait to experience it.

I've never been in.

No.

Never.

Me either.

Never know.

We were supposed to play a game here, got canceled.

I remember that.

You were playing the Packers, and they painted the fields, and it got all mushy and solid, right?

The paint?

Congealed?

It's much worse than a paint.

Well.

What else?

It was paint, and then they put a tarp over top of it, and then I think they put a massive magnifying glass above it as well.

Dry it out.

So that the sun would hit the magnifying glass, and then it would do science.

And then somehow that was just on all of the paint in the entire field.

So it was just,

you know, a paint.

Then whenever they lifted it, it got air and it cooled off.

So it hardened.

Sure.

So that was good.

How did that happen?

They forgot the catalyst for sure.

Happened at the shipyard all the time.

No one would say they did it wrong.

What, the anti-melt catalyst no so the catalyst if it's a two component paint the catalyst is what makes it go hard and sometimes guys would forget to put that in and that would make it stay soft oh so then the heat would only melt it even more yeah and then whenever you up it and get wind on it and everything then that's when it melts and you would never hardens up you would never find a painter who would admit that they didn't put the catalyst in no of course because the painter is the smartest motherfucker in that particular conversation always are you a painter you do the Hall of Fame?

How many times have you done this?

Exactly.

Okay.

Get the fuck out of here.

I know what I'm doing.

The Sod Father.

Imagine them talking to the Sod Father.

Hey, what happened with the.

Have you ever shut up?

Okay.

We're all in the same place.

I've been doing this for 70 years.

How long have you been on the gig?

We saw the son,

the Sod Sun, at the All-Star game.

Oh, yeah.

And they said, hey, there's a little bit more to that story than maybe.

We won't talk about that.

Oh.

Yeah, maybe it was.

We literally got a hush.

Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

So it had an impact on the game.

It had an impact.

Sod Father, though, did a lot of great things for football for a long time.

Oh, yeah.

People were saying they lose his magic at the end, and then he was saying, they didn't even let me do it, though.

Kind of using

it.

Kind of stolen valor, kind of using my name, but not really letting me do anything.

And I would have done it a little different.

And the other guy said, what?

We did what?

We did exactly what he told us to do.

Which goes right back to...

Yeah.

How long you been doing this?

Okay.

Class 2025 for the Hall of Fame.

Gonna celebrate the shit out of them this weekend starting on Thursday night.

All these guys will join us in in the first hour.

Congrats to Eric Allen, Jared Allen, Antonio Gapes, and Sterling Sharp.

Gapes, Jesus, Tonio Gates, sorry.

Kent State legend.

Yes.

When I went on my visit to Kent State, there was an entire shrine basically too.

So good.

That's so sweet.

He was so good at basketball.

Pretty close to King, I think.

So good at football.

Unbelievable.

Obviously, Phillip Rivers just retired like four days ago, five days ago.

Congrats to him on an incredible career.

And congrats to Antonio Gates and Sterling Sharp.

He's going in.

I know Shannon's been pitching for a long time for him.

He's unbelievable.

First football jersey I ever had was Sterling Sharp.

If he would have played like his career got ended way too soon by injury, but god damn, he was good.

He was so good.

We've never talked to Sterling Sharp.

We've never talked to Antonio Gates.

No, I don't think so.

Or Eric Allen.

Or Eric Allen.

Nope.

Jared Allen will be last in the first hour because we know Jared Allen pretty good.

And congrats to Jared Allen being Hall of Famer.

Certainly worthy.

Will he have a horse out there?

There's a lot of horses in Ohio, right?

He will.

Oh, I think he will definitely have a horse.

He's very comfortable on that fucking horse.

Oh, yeah.

You see that retirement video?

Mm-hmm.

Where he was at.

I mean, it was.

I assume he does the speech from it.

Yeah, that rope ranch and Sach celebration wasn't gimmick.

Yeah, Orlovsky said, you're not getting me.

I'm going to have rope myself.

He did.

And just ran around.

Yeah, he did.

You think Jared Allen talks about that in his speech?

I hope so.

You think he says, I like to thank Dan Orlovsky.

Keep me relevant every single day.

People understand how intimidating of a person I was on the field because they see you sprint your ass off right out of the back of that end zone every other day during the football season.

Dan Orlovsky gets that tweeted to him every other day.

That's crazy.

Dan Orlovsky says, I don't know if this quarterback is in the same league as these other guys.

And everybody says, oh, is that right, fucking Dan?

What happened here?

Tough spot.

Every day, Dan.

Tough spot.

Lost that game by two points.

Oh, no.

Yeah, but that would have went to overtime, and who knows?

Yeah, you guys won two games out of here.

So

yeah, you guys lost a lot of games by a lot of points.

They were really bad then.

Well, that's not quite.

Yeah, Dan Orlovsky was QB.

We know you were bad, okay, folks.

What's that all about?

That's your opinion.

Daniel takes a lot of shots.

I don't like that.

He does.

And he just stands right in there.

He just stands right in there.

God does talk reckless, though.

Does he?

He says some things.

He says some things that are pretty out of pocket.

I think he's like the perfect depiction of, like, yeah, I have an opinion.

Just as this, you know, just in general.

Hey, you want to talk?

Yeah, I have an opinion.

Hey, you might not know a lot about this particular situation.

You want to, yeah, I do.

I know a bunch of it.

Dan, if Dan talks about it, Dan knows about it.

I think he's done his research that has led him to how he feels.

And every once in a while, everybody's going to disagree with him.

That's why they're paying him big bucks.

That's why he got a new deal done.

Exactly.

10 sub tweets later, Dan Orlofsky back with the SEAL.

Big bucks, Dan.

I'm fucking pumped for Dan.

What a career.

Yeah, he's good, man.

Legitimately, yeah.

I'm fucking pumped for him.

He started just breaking down.

Remember back in the day when he would just break down plays like on his phone?

He'd throw himself on Twitter.

Oh, yeah, we remember.

Yeah, we remember.

Dan called him.

Falling asleep in the first fucking 10 seconds of your shit.

You need to do something.

He's gotten really good at that.

Yes.

He's very good.

I would say Dan Orlovsky, very good on TV.

Right?

I think we all say that.

Absolutely.

Yes.

I don't know if you say that about a lot of people, us included.

It's like Dan's very good at TV.

Whenever he sits down and they fucking throw one in there, all right, is this going to be a war with everybody?

Or is this going to be like a, you know what, I didn't think of that?

That's Dan Orlovsky.

Yep.

This guy fucking ran out of the back of the end zone.

Or

thank you, Dan, for saying what we're all thinking.

And that's literally minute to minute, I think, for Dan Orlovsky.

That's take to take.

Oh, yeah.

Show to show.

Yeah, minute to minute, maybe.

Because somebody else can add in something.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, and then just ruined everything.

You'll see him give a little buys towards people he's friends with, though.

Sure, you don't like Arthur Smith, you don't like Arthur Smith's offense, something

does, doesn't it?

Feels like there's something there.

How's Aaron and Arthur going to get along?

Two strong personalities, middle of the season.

I guess we'll see.

That's what Dano's take was on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

I mean, I assumed the OC job came down to Arthur and Dano.

And so he just for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

For the Steelers.

So, of course, he has a grudge.

It makes sense to me.

There's a chance that the Steelers were going to hire Dan Orlofsky as the offense coordinator.

Dano feels this goes in.

Dan Orlovsky's next offense coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Okay, 10 years from now.

Okay.

Why not head coach?

This goes in.

Dan Orlovsky's the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Does Kyr, Tomlin, or Lofsky?

A lot of pressure.

Come on, you got this.

Aww.

Thank God.

Tony.

Oh, sorry.

As he was.

Thank gosh.

Let's do the Colts next.

All right.

I like what Shane Steichen's cooking.

Uh-huh.

Don't you?

I love it.

What's this?

What's this for?

This is for Dan Orlovsky to be the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts 10 years from now.

Okay.

10 years from now.

Or when the job.

Four Super Bowls from now.

When the job opens.

10, 15 years from now, after four Super Bowls by Shane Steichen and this Indianapolis Colts team, Dan Orlovsky announced as the new head coach of the Colts.

This goes in.

Okay.

Oh, shit.

I thought that was it.

Look good.

Look good.

Oh, my God.

All right, let's do the New England Patriots.

Yes.

Brett was going to be there for 20 years.

Let's be real.

Okay, so when that's over.

Okay.

Okay.

Coach Orlovsky.

You'd say, hey, Coach O.

You'd actually

new tattoo.

Yeah.

Coach Orlovsky.

Every fudging day.

Yeah.

Bingo.

I said said that yesterday.

That's the one.

We're going to show up.

Bingo on forearms.

Yep.

Yesterday, today, tomorrow.

Danielski.

Danielski.

Every fudging day.

Uh-oh.

Wow.

Congrats, Coach.

Congrats.

He's coming

home to New England.

Yep.

Yep.

I'm going to kill myself.

Why?

On that note, let's get out of here.

Don't say that.

Don't do that.

I can't do that.

It's all about control.

is going to leave.

It's about 20 years from now, so I still got plenty of time.

Yeah, just like the MLB,

just like MLB has plenty of time for this new CBA.

That's right.

December of 2026.

Does Jet know that's next year?

That's pretty close.

Yeah, and these deals can get done early.

NBA does it early damn near every time.

The NHL, too, right?

Did the NHL get the deal done early?

I don't know if the NFL will ever get it done early.

Do we even have somebody to negotiate one of these?

no is name

last league to miss the year yeah and it killed them they they were dead for like four or five years it really killed the league and mlb had a work stoppage right when yeah mid-90s 94 i believe yeah that's when he said the 94 world series changed because players opted out of playing or whatever it's like they've had a work stoppage and that kill it kills the diehards will be there on the other side like i think the diehards will be there on the side they'll be jaded they'll be pissed but they'll be here on the other side it's like everybody else gets just like oh fuck off, basically.

Like, that's how people, we got billionaires and millionaires fighting each other, and they're going to take, fuck these people is how like the majority casuals feel.

That is how

that's like when the XFL guys

came out.

We're holding out.

It's like, shut the fuck up.

That is literally how everybody feels.

That is not me speaking to you directly.

That is just an immediate reaction to you whenever you say that.

And it's like, Dwayne Johnson probably thought the same thing.

I mean, you know, he wouldn't say it, it, but it's like the fans thought it and probably the league thought it.

And that thing kind of ended quickly, too.

You know, I think somebody was like, hey, you're the 150th best quarterback in the United States of America.

That is why you were here.

Let's go ahead and shut the fuck up and just be happy that we're playing football for a living.

That is what a casual person says.

And I will say, as somebody who is a very normal, casual person, I didn't watch because of that.

Like, I legitimately, you guys think you lost

a friend of ours $30 million last year.

And then you're going to tell them,

we need a little more money.

Why don't you fucking complete a pass?

Why don't you look like a quarterback so we can have a league here before we worry about how much money?

Same thing with the WNBA.

As soon as that comes out, casuals, and I'm not saying they care about casuals at all.

I don't think they do.

But let's just say they care about casuals for a second and not hate casuals that watch their league.

As soon as casuals hear that, it's like, okay.

Well, not going to tune into this.

Let's just move along.

The work stoppage thing,

not good for sports fans like that is just not the case but the players got to do what the players got to do and i think the owners feel the exact same way so it's just kind of like dog chasing tail situation and you just got to hope both sides want to get a deal done but i'll tell you what if both of them are grabbing bats telling each other to get the hell out of the clubhouse i don't know brother i don't know how that's going to go over there and that's a good start though you get if you if guys like you know Bryce and Aaron Judge and you know Shohei if they're the ones who are like really leading that charge, being like, fuck you guys.

I mean, those are the biggest stars in the league.

You know, that's why the NBA, because for the longest time, they had like their biggest stars were on the executive committee of the PA.

How do you think the fans feel?

I think it's tougher in the NFL and MLB because, like you said, we look.

Well, you said the MLB right there.

Yeah, I mean, in that context, and I also don't care.

You know, if you want to come at me for that, you can suck my dick.

But

so, you know, it's like, yeah, it's just, I don't give a shit.

A little aggressive?

Well, you know.

I mean, they could, I guess,

sometimes you have to.

But, like, hockey, we see those contracts.

These guys are making like, the best players are making like eight to nine million dollars a year.

Like, it's a little bit different in football and baseball when you see guys that have $750 million contracts.

So I think even like some of the most die-hard fans are like, you guys make enough fucking money.

Like, make some concessions so we don't lose a season.

But then you can see it from those guys' perspective.

It's like a guy like Judge or Bryce Harper.

It's like, hey, I'm in the prime of my career right now.

Steins.

A guy like Skeens.

Steens has not hit his big deal yet.

He hasn't had a big deal yet, exactly.

So it's like, why the fuck?

I'm putting up numbers that have never been seen before in the history of baseball.

Why do I need to be the guinea pig to be like, oh, you know what?

You're right.

We should do a salary cap and I'll take $250 million less dollars than what I've earned and what guys two years ago were making.

Like it just, I don't know.

I don't blame those guys.

It happened in the NFL whenever they changed the draft payment.

But those guys weren't already in the league.

This would completely

shin bash all your stars.

Right.

So they're going to be the loudest.

And baseball is different too because the teams have basically like ownership over these players for a long time.

So guys, yeah, they get massive deals, but a lot of times, like, you've already put in six to

seven.

Yeah, six to seven to eight years of service time before you actually get that massive contract.

And again,

like, look at, you know, if Judge, like, luckily, he only has like a little, you know, UCL strain.

He's only going to be out for 10 days.

If he has to have Tommy John,

he's missing the next 18 months.

Like, he's missing a full season.

So it's like any day, these guys could, and then you might not be the same guy when you come back.

So it's like, you need to get paid when you have that opportunity.

Good luck to all the boys out there, including

Rob Manford.

Yeah.

How about Judd Passenger being like, Rob Manford did not just exit the clubhouse?

Yeah, he fired one back.

He said,

what the fuck did you say to me?

Why don't you shut the fuck up, Bryce?

Look around, bub.

This is my league.

I'm gonna be here longer than you.

You know what?

Take off all your clothes.

Those are mine.

And get the fuck out of here.

That would have been awesome if you would have just like knocked over a big thing of baseballs.

These are mine.

Yeah.

Pick them up.

I'm about to get just to get rid of that.

Yeah.

That's mine.

That's mine.

Goes and grabs like a hundred bats.

Yeah.

Just strike.

These are mine.

See you later.

Just ticks them all.

What a scene.

And the fact that that got out immediately.

Yeah.

As I was reading, I'm like, did this just happen?

Yeah.

Yep.

Just happened.

Somebody was in there.

Holy fuck, man.

You should see what just took place.

And then Jet Passins, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me?

Rob Manford, Bryce Harper?

Yeah.

Yes.

How much more information can I get?

Mm-hmm.

Something like this hasn't happened since the Starbucks incident at the 2025 scouting combo.

No real implications on that one, though, right?

Got out quick, though.

Yeah, Schultz didn't drop an F-bomb, and Rapsheet, like, cried and called his mom or something.

No, we called NFL Security.

Oh, yeah.

No.

No, they called him.

They called him.

And then he said, yeah, he came up to me in Starbucks.

And then everybody was painting and his rapper port called his dad because Jordan Schultz went into his dad's place and yelled at Ian Rappaport.

And Rapport said, Can we please do some journalism here?

I was asked if I was accosted.

I said, yes.

That's what I thought I was supposed to do because they were showing me a video of me getting yelled at by Jordan Schultz and Starbucks.

And that turned into Ian Ratboard's little bait back bitch.

In that situation, Jordan Schultz took his coffee.

He said, Give me that coffee.

It's mine.

Yeah, that's mine.

Dad's.

You're right.

That's mine.

Dad's.

That's mine.

Dad's.

Dad's.

Then he realized what he'd done.

He's like, shit, no, I got to go do it to everyone in here.

Hey.

Sorry.

That's mine.

Dad's.

That's mine.

Dad.

That's mine.

Turn the lights off.

All of it.

That's mine.

Everybody out.

I'm using this as an office today.

It's mine.

Dad's.

So I need two Americanos before you leave.

Make them mine, Dad's

machine.

That's crazy.

He's an NFL inside.

Well, he's not.

So

what do you mean?

Let's get out of here.

He is.

He's still firing him off.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What do you mean?

He's firing him off.

I agree.

I agree.

Your friend tell?

What would Tim say?

Tim would say, shut the fuck up.

That guy doesn't know fucking shit about shit.

We watched talk on a

zipline.

Yep.

Yep.

Have you seen this video of talk on a zip line this weekend?

He went to Super Duper Lake fun time.

Have you heard about this?

Yeah.

Okay.

I didn't even realize that was talk, I think, when I watched it.

Yeah, he put his feet off.

He did the

Tim Robinson.

A little spin when he's done.

And then at the end, he lifted his feet up and then he hit the thing.

Here it is.

No, no, this isn't it.

This is a different thing.

This is not the zip line.

Now, after the zip line, he did see an elevated surface that he said,

yeah, I think I should jump off of there.

30 feet.

You can jump off this.

It's not a pier.

It's like a little bit of a deck.

You'll see him here in a second.

He'll come into the frame and he'll break his back.

Oh, Jesus.

Why did you angle your back and head towards the water?

He's an athlete.

He said he's scared.

He was trying to stop it.

Yeah, he's got bruising.

Entire ass,

hamstring, and lower back.

That's pretty high up, too, man.

As it turns out, nobody else jumped off of that the rest of the day.

So everybody saw talk beat up water there, and in turn, water beat him up and said, all right, we're not doing a 30-footer today.

What what a choice yeah the decisions that were made there by talk he said

i shouldn't have looked before i jumped it was like well if you don't look you don't know how far it is then you're gonna do that he goes well i did it already and it was like if it was 10 feet shorter he probably hits that water perfect yeah it was that final 10 feet where he just kind of just kind of drifted i'm gonna do a back bump no you're not You're gonna get fucking obliterated by this water.

30 feet.

That's pretty high.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't know you were just allowed to do this.

I didn't know this was just out here he's a zipline guy yeah he's definitely zipline he was only air four to zipline it actually kind of felt like

we had a pier you used to go jump off of into the river oh yeah pitch black i don't remember the exact height of that thing down at barking uh it was probably 20.

i lived there for a year on barking

that's sweet guinness world record shadiest road in the united states of the sun down most shade it's in a valley next to a river yeah i got thrown off a pier got a concussion what's that When I was like nine years old.

Yeah, that was what happened.

I had an

instructor and we were horsing around.

Used to babysit me sometimes.

So we're kind of just

my brother.

It's all kind of a bunch of big group and we're all laughing.

I got picked up and I got tossed off a pier and I landed on my back and it fucked me up.

How far was the drop?

20 feet.

You got picked up and thrown as a nine-year-old off a pier?

Yeah.

It was fucking nuts, dude.

It is hindsight looking bad.

Someone else jumped in.

Could you imagine you doing that to a nine-year-old?

That no.

Yeah, I've never done that.

All right.

Let's keep you away from nine-year-olds.

Okay.

That's fair.

Let's keep you away from nine-year-olds.

A lady, I saw a lady on the internet.

Oh, my gosh.

Yes.

Her friend?

And then that lady.

She went to jail.

She went to jail.

That's what everybody on the internet says.

I don't know if that's real wild.

I mean, the injuries.

She like punctured a lung, broken ribs.

That was fucked up.

I hated that video.

Yeah, I did did not like it at all.

Yeah, I kind of out of nowhere, too, just to shove off there.

Because you'll see some of those people want to bungee jump and they're on like a box.

And you'll see some of the locals like actually push people off.

Like, hey,

you're doing this.

You signed up for it.

And it's always like an interesting situation because I'm like, would I want that to happen if I'm up there?

Probably not.

I kind of want to go myself.

But also, if you work there, like, how long do these people just going to stay in shit?

Yeah, I got people paying.

If everybody was just to go up there and be scared, they'd be scared.

They're going fucking push me.

I agree.

But what do they tell us beforehand, though.

Yeah, I was messed up.

This girl, she goes face.

No, that video makes that video pisses you off bad.

That girl that put it, that makes me so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's infuriating.

I've never, uh, I've never bungee jumped.

I think that one's scarier than skydiving.

What do you think?

Just a lot of external factors there.

Yeah.

A lot closer to Earth.

Yeah.

Remember rap sheet, feet first, messes up.

Sky coaster doesn't cut?

Yeah.

Pencil in.

Two, one, fly.

Pull the thing through Kennywood.

Oh, yeah.

I did that.

Yeah, I have.

I've done that.

That's...

Yeah.

That's more.

That is a bungee jumping action.

Yeah,

in my estimation,

I've bungee jumped before.

Because that's what that is.

Kind of.

I think that kind of is.

They're sending 10-year-olds up there, 11-year-olds up here in Kennywood.

You know what they're not getting?

Stuck because it ain't fucking Cedar Point.

You guys talk to anybody over there in Ohio about that?

Can't have that happening.

I have not.

I've never been to Cedar Point, actually.

Did you see what that one guy said said on the internet?

No.

He said D-Bone was sitting in the back.

Oh, yeah.

So that's why it couldn't.

That was both.

Because the coaster goes like this, and then it goes

to connect, and then it goes like this, and it just got stuck right here.

It was a good point by the guy who tweeted.

I didn't even think of that.

Debone was, I think.

He was right back here because he was driving over to Ohio to get all the all-American beer that's left.

Yep.

Or real American beer that's left.

And he was right back there, I think.

And they said that they didn't, whenever building that thing, they didn't expect it to not.

That's a good point.

We don't know if that's true.

I mean, you guys are really nice friends for thinking that D-Bone could get on a roller coaster.

But I do.

He's definitely tall enough.

Yeah.

There's other limits.

And unfortunately,

Jesus Christ.

What are you saying?

I'm just saying, based on the structure of the roller coaster,

I don't think that.

You don't think that thing's turning?

I don't think the bars are clicking.

That's always the problem.

Yeah.

You do this one and you got to do it a couple of times.

It even happens to me every once in a while and I'm nowhere near like a.

I mean, I'm built like a spark plug, but not that big.

Anytime I got to really yank that thing to get locked in, a little bit of anxiety.

Yeah.

Like, hey, it feels like that was not cleanly locked in.

And then, what, 16-year-old comes walking by with a little Madonna mic, all right, it's going to be fine.

Barely pulls it, just walking, yep, you're good.

Like, am I?

I don't know.

You sure?

You sure?

I was in here.

Yeah, all right.

Keep your arms and hands in, save us here.

Send him out.

And I'm just,

am I holding on to this thing the whole fucking ride?

I don't know if I can hold this.

And then you get upside down and you're like free-falling.

And it's like, well, now we're going to find out.

And then that thing stays locked.

And it's like, whew, thank God.

And then the ride's over.

It's like, well, that wasn't fun.

Yeah.

I wasn't.

All right, let's get out of here.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

Might change your life for this thing together.

It's been a great summer, man.

That'd be so scary.

It'd be so scary if you were holding on and it went upside down and you felt it unhook and you're just holding on, your legs are flying in the air.

How long can I hold this?

We've talked about this before, but it's a good time to bring it up because state fair season's coming up.

In where we grew up, there wasn't state fair.

Like we didn't do this.

I think it's over there in Hershey or Harrisburg or who knows, somewhere else.

So I didn't know about state fairs.

And then I come out here to Indiana.

Love them.

Holy fuck.

These things are the greatest.

People watching.

The food's absurd.

I like to eat good food.

Then, like, the things that are happening, awesome.

I, I, it's, state fairs are some of the greatest things ever created, I think.

These people are getting on these rides, though, that

I don't think we should be getting on in the middle of a parking lot.

And I'm literally just watching that guy put it together.

He was using a hand crank, and then this thing's going

all the way up.

Guy's a good hustler, though.

That's why he's out there.

Those are awesome, though.

The ones that you could die on.

Like the ones you were growing up as a kid going to.

See, that's what I'm saying.

I never did those as a kid.

So I think that is kind of my

know.

You think about it too much as an adult.

Yeah, as a kid, you're just like, all right, you're getting lying.

The little spin one where you're like, you just sit on the wall.

Yeah, you sit on the wall.

Starship's 2000 or something, they call it the orbiter that spins and turns at the same time.

The zipper.

I saw.

They always just make you puke.

Always.

This one gets me now that I'm older.

Thousand and one nights.

This one, what's that?

A thousand and one nights.

Go on.

The boat that goes.

That's what his was called.

It was a thousand and one night.

My ears fell out.

That's pirate ship.

That's pirate ship.

That was a pirate ship.

Yeah, my ears fell out.

I did not hear anything for like three seconds.

That's fine.

Yeah, it's okay.

Yeah, we were

magic carpet or pirate ship.

Yeah, 1,001 nights, too.

It feels like that whenever I'm on it, because it's that as I've gotten older, that one has not sat well with my

body.

Getting to the point where I'm gonna have to figure out whether or not we're doing these things with McKenzie or not, these state fair rides.

Yeah.

And I have a bad feeling Sam's all in on these things.

She's been trying to get me to ride them for like four or five years.

I'm like, Sam, I'm not fucking going in that thing.

Oh, come on.

I have fun.

Thank you.

You go do it.

I'm not going to do it alone.

Mackenzie's not getting in with it.

I don't know how to tell Sam.

That's what I like.

I would never do it, but I think of it too.

Like, Iowa State Fair is the same thing.

Like, they do it so often that it probably is safe, but very safe.

But you're right.

Like, my kid isn't fucking going in there.

Not a chance.

I'll go to an amusement park and do it, but like...

Kennywood.

Yeah, I'm not going to the fucking fairgrounds and doing it.

Not a chance.

You're not putting your kid on a Kennywood ride either.

Yeah, you know what?

Nah, I'm talking about Adventureland here.

I ain't talking about fucking Kennywood.

Yeah, let's put this to the test, why don't you and Sam and McKenzie head to Kennywood and hop on the fucking potato thing.

I want to let you know that's potato patch.

Potato patch is not a ride.

Oh, okay.

It's a journey to Happytown.

It is not a ride.

Mackenzie will definitely be a Kennywood girl.

No questions asked.

I've heard the prices are a little absurd, but, you know, going to have to do that for

a lifetime.

We went to Cedar Point for mine's second birthday.

She had so much fun.

We're going back for her third.

Yeah, that's what we're saying.

Cedar Point.

Did you see Cedar Point?

Have you seen Cedar Point?

I thought that's what he said.

I was clarifying.

Well, we've heard, but

Debone hopefully won't be there when he goes, so he doesn't have to worry about it.

Debone, we're on the back of that thing.

Why'd that guy say you're on the back of that thing?

Wasn't on the back of that thing.

I read tweets at Cedar Point.

I read a T-cup.

I was in the pond all weekend.

I saw a tweet about him that said he got in the teacup and the whole thing just shut down.

The teacups?

Yeah, the teacups was the only ride he could ride and fit into.

Are you sure it was the teacups, not the teacups?

Might have been the tea balls.

Or the tea bowls.

Okay,

the t-bowls.

Yeah, t-bowls.

Tea cooler, perhaps.

Tea refrigerator.

Bone!

Bone, why are they saying you're on the back of that ride?

Why'd that guy tweet that?

I don't even have a mic to defend himself.

Hey, Don't see all your money.

There we go.

Yeah, that's kind of how he feels about that guy.

Nice.

Great catch.

That's national champion right there.

That sure is.

So, um.

Why were you on the back?

Why'd that guy tweet you in the back of that?

Bergie the hippie can go fuck himself.

That's journalism.

I guess Bergie the hippie did not see you there.

Thank you.

Sorry, we will no longer say that you you were in the back of that or the T-bowls or D-cups or anything.

Thank you, D-Bone.

Those jokes ain't going nowhere, D-Bone.

He does need to get it under control.

He needs to start doing some physical activity.

Got a dry fit on right now.

Yeah.

He's got a dry fit.

Right after the show, he'll be in the chip.

He's got to play the part.

Yeah.

He was putting in work at the pond all weekend.

That was a pond party.

Yeah.

He wasn't swimming.

No, no, he was was swimming.

He was the 2025 Prince of the Pond.

Yeah, Pond Prince.

First year.

He was the crown and all.

Closing ceremonies.

So Burger the Hippie was lying.

I guess he wasn't on that roller coaster.

I'm not.

I think there's still some validation to that claim.

I don't know.

Burger the hippie's been around a while, too.

Let's not just rule him out.

You know, we can't just take one word over the other.

All right.

He's wearing a fucking dry fit.

Wearing a dry fit.

I was watching cops.

That's literally what it just took took me back to.

Like, what if that is his excuse?

I had fucking tights on yesterday.

Saw a guy showing up at training camp.

Yeah, Bob Spillane in 98-degree heat, the hottest day in New England probably up to this point.

Shows up to training camp in long sleeves, a sweatshirt, and tights.

Yeah, I mean, and my immediate thought was, oh, this guy needs to lose some weight.

Like, showing up at camp a little heavy.

We need to lose some weight here.

It's going to Bob Spillane.

Uh-uh.

Every weight's perfect.

So he's just a guy.

It's like, I was out in Vegas, brother.

It was 120 degrees out there.

You think I'm worried about this New England heat?

I don't think.

What's going on in Europe?

Hey, Europe's heat?

Yeah, massive heat wave.

No air conditioning, right?

Is that the big problem?

I guess.

Yep.

Wow.

People dying.

Oh, yeah.

It's crazy.

It is crazy.

Especially because down in South Florida, it's like always 100 degrees.

It's got to be something different over there.

Yeah, they don't have air conditioning.

What do you think it is?

No, I don't know.

What else could it be?

What else do you think it is?

I don't know.

Karma?

Who's the SEC quarterback you think is going to be behind

Lenore Sellers?

I told you, DJ Lagway.

Okay, all right.

And then Arch?

Do you say that because you hate white people?

I love white people.

Okay, I just wanted to make sure people are asking.

I think DJ Lagway is going to be very good.

Yeah, he's got the quarterback whisperer, too.

Napron.

That's right.

They turned that team around, stuck with the boys.

I do respect DJ Lagway, but my blind belief on the season is just like,

the art show.

And maybe I need to dial it back a little bit.

I mean, remember the year Napier had with AR, his last year in Florida?

Holy fuck.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change her life.

We're going to stay together.

Team all meet.

AJ, we'll see you tomorrow, buddy.

Are you coming with us tomorrow?

Yeah,

I'll meet you there.

I'm going to drive.

You should just meet us at Canton.

What?

Oh, no.

I can meet you in Pitton.

I plan on coming to Le Trobe.

All right.

Okay, just know that you don't have to.

I got you.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I got a buddy that, big Steelers fan.

He's coming to watch.

Okay, sick.

All right, we'll see you there tomorrow.

Bobby?

Yeah, Bobby.

The general?

No, another buddy.

He's a guy from Youngstown.

You know, all those Youngstown people are big.

All the Pittsburgh sports.

Youngstown is a Pittsburgh-type city.

It is.

A lot of Italians.

A lot of grit.

They remind me of Pittsburgh people.

Like all my buddies' dad's from, they sound like they're from Pittsburgh.

And they're the Penguins, right?

Yes, they are.

So it's very Pittsburgh.

You're right.

All right, we'll see you tomorrow, AJ.

Hopefully we'll see other people hang out with us tomorrow at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp.

Come say hello.

And after the show, we're going to watch practice.

That's what we're going to do.

All right.

That's a great idea.

That is what is happening.

That needs to be said right now.

When that show is over, we're going to watch practice.

Have to.

Some of we.

That's what we're here for.

You're not watching practice?

What?

What's up?

Ton's staying for the Hall of Fame game.

You don't have to scout for week three?

Yeah.

No, I'm focused on week one, brother.

One game at a time.

That's different.

One day at a time,

one show at a time, one moment at a time.

I was just kidding about Kentucky, by the way.

I feel like that should be said too.

All right, team on three, one, two, three, two.

Goodbye.

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