PMS 2.0 1378 - The Open Championship Recap, Adam Schefter, J.J. Watt, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunderdone on this overreaction Monday July 21st 2025 this program begins right now

Sports are happening all around us and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day.

Obviously sports had a massive weekend and we'll be chit-chatting about it all.

Huge contracts handed out in the NFL.

Congrats everybody getting paid.

The WFDA All-Star weekend happened here in Indianapolis.

They're calling it Indiami.

Ooh.

They're saying it was Miami in Indianapolis.

I'll tell you what, I saw a lot of videos.

It looks like everybody's having a great time.

Looks like everybody's having a blast.

Now, there is a big statement coming out of the WNBA, obviously, with them saying, pay us what you owe us, shirts.

There's different takes on all different sides.

We sent an invite to Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner of the WNBA, to come on on this particular day.

Obviously, schedule is crazy.

Look for us to chit-chat with her here in a while.

Hell yeah.

Because I am trying to figure it all out.

I am trying to figure it all out.

Because whenever we found out what the WNBA pays their players through Caitlin Clark,

she's making like 70 grand or something.

They're charging $70,000 for a suite at some of these games that Caitlin Clark is playing in.

Now, I know that the league's been around for 20 years.

I know that it's lost money for a very, very long time here.

I know they're saying like $40 million in losses potential.

Now, $200 million in revenue is the total.

$40 million in losses.

Just quick, you know, business.

Everybody understands.

It's P ⁇ L, you know, profits and losses.

$200 million in revenue.

That's your gross.

Then your net revenue is what you're making out of that, right?

Every business has expenses.

Every business has costs.

For the WNBA, it's a lot.

Obviously, you got like 140 players or something like that, depending upon at the time, how many are hired, how many are employed, the buildings, everything else like that.

They are then from that $200 million gross revenue, allegedly back here at $40 million in the red as a loss.

Allegedly.

We don't know what's real and what isn't real, but allegedly, everybody has said they've never turned a profit.

So the immediate reaction is: whenever you say pay us what you owe us, it's like, you're not making any money.

So what do we owe you?

You owe us money.

This is actually one of those things.

But

if we're already losing 40 million, could you not just bump them up to at least six figures?

Like $70,000 as a paycheck is a very, that's an embarrassment.

Yeah.

Especially for like Caitlin Clark or all these people as a professional sports.

Now, with that being said, my dad.

His job, if he would have got paid $70,000 a year growing up, would have been incredibly pumped about that.

But with how long WNBA has been around, to say the $40 million loss is the reason why you can't give them money, that should be pretty easy to make happen, is just why?

Because if you just add 30 grand to each one of them, get that up over a hundred thousand bucks it's another like 4.6 million say you're for 44.6 million in this way there has to be four million you can find somewhere in here that you can give up to give the players at least a little bit more money because i don't think the seventy thousand dollar thing is right but i think that negotiation is going to be tough

i think it's going to be a very tough negotiation now it seems like the players though all in on their side of it and then if you listen to everybody else talk it's like hey business this is how business works you know you make money you get money that's kind of how it goes but it's like if you're operating in a 40 million dollar loss off of two there's a lot of things going wrong.

We could sneak in an extra $30,000 per player for it to get up to $100,000.

Hopefully there'll be a conversation.

Hopefully there'll be incentives for it to go forward.

But that was the big story out of the weekend.

I don't love that that's the big story out of the weekend because I thought it was a great weekend here in Indianapolis.

Every city, every place downtown was rented out.

There was massive events everywhere.

Nike took over an entire basic block

of Indianapolis and built it up.

It was awesome.

And we had a great weekend here, even though, you know, collective bargaining is going to be the conversation going forward.

And there's no reason for anybody, hey, anybody, especially after the stud buds basically brought the whole world together.

That's right.

Shout out to the stud buds.

They were just streaming their entire time here in Indianapolis.

You're welcome back anytime you want.

They're getting after it, too.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, they were having a good time.

Stud buds were a great time.

That's stud buds football.

That is stud buds football.

That is kind of what we realized this weekend.

So shout out to the WNBA coming through our city.

We hope you enjoyed it.

And shout out to Scotty Scheffler.

Scotty Scheffler,

as I was, you know, watching what he was doing doing yesterday, you know, with my daughter running around, so you catch it back.

It's great backdrop.

Great, great.

A little earlier in the day, you know, because they're in Ireland.

So obviously they're six hours, seven hours ahead.

So in the morning, you get a chance to watch it as opposed to just the afternoon.

So there's some pros and some cons.

Long day afterwards with nothing afterwards.

So that is certainly a give and take that we had there.

But watching this dude, it's like, what words do you use to describe him?

I guess inevitable.

I guess that is a word that you could describe him as going into any tournament.

It's just like Scotty Scheffler is probably going to win this thing.

I even put out a tweet that's like every three weeks i get a chance to see his family oh bennett this boy's growing so quick yeah hey last time i seen this guy you know was at his previous win was just a few weeks ago and then the previous wins a couple weeks before that we're keeping up with them every couple weeks here it's like i'm following him on facebook it's like i uh i'm catching up with their family portraits basically as they're going beautiful family happy family little boy almost getting up that hill to get to the green fantastic but all in all the only word you can really say about scottie scheffler is obviously it's like hey he has a four-stroke lead he's gonna go right for it there's gonna be a lot of danger in between.

It doesn't have to do it.

He could play safe.

Well, he's going to, and then he's going to get it to six feet, actually.

Obviously, that is what Scotty Scheffler's going to do.

Hey, for the 10th consecutive time, he's had a lead going into a Sunday, four strokes or more.

And now is the first hole.

Is he going to be nervous?

He's going to come out a little gun shy.

Uh-uh.

He's going to go ahead and put it to tap-in length on the first hole.

Let the rest of the field know, like, hey, this Sunday is exactly how every other day is going to go.

Then we go, obviously.

What a stroke.

Middle of the fairway.

What's that mean?

oh we mashed his drive to a perfect location hangs that thing up high right what's the what's the topography gonna do for you oh it's gonna put it right next to the hole it's like anytime he needs a shot he shows up and does it and i i hate to like kind of harp on this Because it does feel like it steals the chatter a little bit.

People are like, Scotty's not entertaining enough to be a top man, a leading man.

Does he have the personality of the guys of the past?

You know, Tiger, we had the red shirt on Sunday.

We had the fish bump.

We had the intensity.

We had the entire thing.

What do do we have with scotty what do we have with scotty is just like every shot's a good one somehow yeah every single shot somehow is being great and he's starting to show a little bit more emotion he's starting to introduce himself to the world a little bit more he's given some deep perspective takes about life and golf and his deal as a professional athlete and how he views it over the last few days and i want to let scotty sheffler know we love you buddy you're great for sports and people watching you do your thing at the highest level in the biggest moments with the most amount of pressure and you not cracking at all you staring down the biggest moment and the hardest moment.

Because in golf, if you're off by that much, I mean, it's over.

He could still score a nine on a hole.

Yeah, there is still a chance that that could happen on any swing.

He said, Can't wait to get to Memphis.

Now everybody's even par yet again.

Here he is on 12 for Birdie.

You know, 11 was a tough hole.

Everybody's talking about 12.

You bounce back, get a birdie here, no problem.

How are you doing?

Keep it moving.

Then he wraps it up on 18 with like a three-foot tap.

And as the guy that he's playing alongside, basically said he was a joy to play with.

The guy's happy.

He doesn't seemingly have any like bad traits traits about him at all.

The way he views life is spectacular.

I think there's a chance he might start smoke a little weed.

Sure.

Which I'm obviously I am a huge proponent of.

If not, he's been at the top of the mountain long enough now that he's been able to look around and be like, hey, all I wanted to do was get here.

This is all I wanted to do.

Become the best I could possibly become.

Be the best in the world.

Get to the top of this mountain.

He gets to the top of the mountain.

He looks around.

This is it.

This is what I committed my entire life to.

He gave an answer yesterday afterwards.

It was like, when I was like four or five years old, I used to wear pants to golf course because I saw professional golfers do it.

All I've ever wanted to do is become a professional golfer.

My entire life, I've tried to become a professional golfer.

And then you get here and you realize that the only good time is right after you win.

And then it's like a two to three minute feeling.

And then it's like, okay.

Got to get home back to America.

Got to get to my family.

Got Memphis on Tuesday.

Everybody's even par.

This is kind of the same notion that everybody that gets to the top of their respective fields kind of starts to feel.

It's either your win is a relief and a loss is total devastation.

He's at that point now in a sport that it's not supposed to have that type of expectations.

Where if he's in a tournament, he's supposed to win it.

And if he doesn't win it, it's like, what, what happened?

And if he does win it, it's like, well, he's supposed to win it.

Let's see what happens next.

I hope there's a chance for Scotty to continue to be able to play as well as he's playing while viewing the world this way.

And I hope he continues to balance life and golf at the same time because I think he's doing it better than any megastar has ever done it, any phenom has ever done it.

And then you listen to Jordan Speed talk about him afterwards.

Didn't kind of could have been

kind of felt like a shot.

Kind of felt like a shot about how he does things differently than all of us.

And he doesn't do as many corporate events.

He's not chasing money.

He's not chasing any of this.

He just wants to play golf and be with his family.

And he's able to turn it off when he goes home.

And he said he was going home with him.

And he wasn't able to.

It's like Scotty Scheffler might be the most relatable, normal, awesome.

dog in the history of sport.

He is a dog.

To get this good, you have to have a maniacal work ethic.

You have to be dialed in.

You have to know every little thing about your swing, the golf ball, the golf course, and everything else that's happening around you.

To do that, the amount of work you have to put in is absurd.

So we'd like to say to Scotty, we appreciate the hell out of your commitment to your sport.

We appreciate the hell out of your commitment to you.

And us watching your baby boa grow up into inevitably becoming a champion, which we assume will happen in anything.

Doesn't matter what he does, if it is golf or something else.

We can't wait to follow along and thank you for what you're doing for sports.

Because when your name's on a leaderboard or when you're in a tournament it is must watch because there's a chance that he goes seven straight holes and hits the best shot you could possibly hit on every single shot let's go to one half of the hammer

cowboys ap tone he's untouchable right now and the only person that you can compare him to is tiger woods and he and tiger polar opposite human beings both wear the check mark though.

Yeah, they do.

The only person like the current run that he's on is is Tiger-like and I hope he continues to do it.

You know, like Kepka, Speeth, Rory, they had all, they had runs similar to this, but the difference between that and Tiger was that Tiger just did it forever.

But you talk about being on the leaderboard and being in the tournament.

He has put the PGA Tour on his back.

He's got 11 straight top 10s in 30 of the last 36, that's the last two years, he's been top 10.

If he's been in the 30s of 36, he's been finished in the top 10.

So, like, if Scotty's playing in a tournament, he's going to be in the top 10.

He's going to be there, and everyone's going to tune in to watch Scotty.

He's literally putting tour on his back.

And if we know anything from swing to survive,

correct?

Yep.

Full swing.

drive to survive.

Paradise,

full swing on Netflix, their schedules are horrendous.

Oh, yeah.

Because he's back in Memphis Tuesday or Wednesday.

So he was just obviously in Northern Ireland, has to fly back to Dallas, Texas.

Then he's in Memphis.

That's on Tuesday, Wednesday, issue.

He has to go in there, get the course, get a practice round, pro-am.

I assume he's not doing those pro-am

anymore.

Who knows?

I hope not.

I hope he isn't either.

Yeah.

Guys, making top 10 he's in every single weekend.

He's doing this entire thing.

But it's like him being able to balance being a human while

their touring schedule is insane over there.

Not a lot of time down, not a lot of time with family.

The fact that he's been able to balance it all and figure it all out, I'm proud of him.

I'm pumped for him.

Let's go to the talks table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.

Con man, your thoughts on old Scotty Scheffler carrying golf right now for all of us.

And even, I think, the live guys and the PGA guys, they're all saying.

That's the motherfucker right there.

And that's a good place to be if you're him.

Yeah, and thank God we got him.

I feel like without Scotty, it is a much different tournament.

Obviously, it's a major, no matter what, you're going to tune in.

But I think that was my biggest takeaway is that when it is a major, you want, you know, 18th hole coming down to the finish.

You know,

everybody's tied and you're damn near going to go to a playoff.

But when it comes to Scotty, when it is like that and you're just watching Scotty Shuffler golf, because that's all it was.

You weren't watching for, you know, competition.

You weren't watching to see who's going to win.

You know, Scotty's going to win.

You're watching Sunday just to see what he does, and he delivers.

That's why I think I have grown to love Scotty so much is because it's not like a, hey, walk in the park.

You mentioned it, the first hole, he's going, he's basically going for the hole.

He's going for a damn albatross and he doesn't need to.

I think that's why it is so entertaining and it is great to have a dominant golfer because even when all those guys were going, you know, Brooks was making his run and everything, there wasn't like the clear-cut number one.

Tony just said it.

In the last two years, he's been top 10 in 30 events.

Like he is by far the greatest golfer.

He's head and shoulders above whoever you want to put at number two.

And I think that's why it has been so entertaining to watch some of these matches because you know he's just balling out.

Yeah, I enjoy watching him golf.

And what can't be lost in all this debuts, nine-year NFL vet, is the amount of work that has to go in to get to this point.

You know, because he's just so ho-hum all the time.

You know, it's just like,

I just hit it 350.

I just put it to two feet on a Sunday at the open,

a major that I have never won before.

Oh, I just made a huge putt.

He made, I forget what his putts were.

He He hasn't best day he's ever had putting, I think.

I think he's figured out the putting because the putting was kind of the question mark here.

How good was Scotty's putting?

Says Jamie Kennedy.

Great account, pulled up some great stats.

He finished a week 59 to 63, putting inside 10 feet.

Okay.

So those are the ones that are, first of all, they piss you off.

Yeah, the knee knockers.

Yeah, the knee knockers are the ones that piss you off.

But also, if you're able to make those, you can gain a lot of strokes.

Scotty Sheffler used to miss every once in a while at this distance.

And everybody was like, his only weakness is his putter.

His only weakness is his putter.

It's like, the guy's won three majors.

I don't know if his putter is that weak.

I understand it's not as good as his irons or his driver, but he went to work on his putter.

Very clear, very evident.

Changed his grip.

Yeah, changed his grip.

And he went to the claw grip, and it's been different since.

And you talked about everything, man, how his peers speak about him.

I think Desham Bohe spoke about him after.

I think they're both like Dallas area kids.

He was like, look, I used to play against Scotty all the time.

He was never that good.

You talked about the work ethic.

Like, he was bogey-free up until that part put.

That was when he showed like the biggest, you know, emotion.

He had the big fist pump.

He had that double bogey a little bit later.

But that kind of shows you, even though I'm head and shoulders above the field, I'm going to win this tournament.

I care about my next shot, my next stroke.

He's just dominant.

It's not like he's

perfectly, fundamentally sound.

He's not like an Adam Scott or like a Rory.

Like you look at that, okay, this is the perfect swing.

His feet are always different.

His finishes with his hands.

So a guy like me who's kind of, you know, fairly new in the golf and watching him do it and watching him do it his way and still be kind of like just himself.

It's almost like watching Barry Sanders.

Like Barry Sanders, he was dominant.

He did freaky shit on the field every Sunday, but he was justn't like speed.

He wasn't doing all the other things.

And obviously, this is an individual sport, so he can win, unlike Barry on those old lions who had to struggle with some tough teams.

But it's been special,

special watching Scotty, man.

It's unbelievable.

Yeah, it's a good comparison there.

Barry Sanders, I really, I never thought of that.

As you're saying,

you know, Barry

was stuck with.

Where's Barry Sanders from?

Kansas.

What, what's that?

is whereabouts?

Wichita.

Oh,

I got it.

I'm not going to lie.

The first.

It's tough.

You're really trying to put some sauce on Wichita.

It's tough for them.

Yeah, I think it's tough.

Wachita.

Yeah.

Like a little Spanish, the eye, the first eye, hard.

Second eye.

Pronounce that thing as an E.

Accent.

Yeah, Wachita, Kansas, is not a bad ass ball.

But yeah, obviously, Barry Sanders obviously handed the ball back to the official after every touchdown.

People still are told that to this day.

It's like watching Scotty Scheffler.

Will he be be like this for 20 years possibly and you talked about his swing being new to golf everything they tell you you're not supposed to do hey those feet need to remain the same those feet need to stay there somehow scotty's been able to dance obviously not in his irons but in the driver in the t-box he does the hokey that's some bitches right foot in oh yeah left foot in both feet out

bombs jumping so it's like obviously you got to find yourself every time you see a target boom the triangle the little triangle hey this is where you need to aim it's like they they were golfing in Pittsburgh.

Third tree over.

This is where you need to hit it.

And then all of a sudden, Scotty's ball just,

and then, oh, wait, is it going to come back?

Of course it is.

Like a magnet.

The guy's unbelievable.

All right, congrats to Scotty.

Also, congrats to all the NFL teams that are currently showing up at training camp.

Tell them, we don't have time to break it all down.

How many teams are currently already checked into camp?

So the Chargers and Lions are already in camp.

They're playing in the Hall of Fame game.

They've been there.

And then today, the Chiefs and Cowboys report.

22 teams report tomorrow.

And then two more report report on Wednesday.

Steelers being one of those.

Okay, so I think it's 26 tomorrow.

Or sorry, tomorrow, 26.

Yeah, 26 tomorrow.

Two today, two yesterday, or whenever the lines and chargers reported.

And then two on Wednesday.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from a golf course, I do believe.

A Michigan man, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter.

Chef Day, how's it going over there?

You guys hitting it like Schefter?

Yeah, I'm Adam Scheffler today.

And I will say you were talking about Scotty Scheffler before.

Pat, you know Jimmy Sexton, the superpower agent who represents half the coaches in college football, correct?

Yes, sir.

Yeah, do you know who Jimmy Sexton's son Parker's college roommate was?

Of course.

Is it Scotty?

I guess it would be Scotty there.

Scotty at Texas.

And I like to tease Jimmy all the time that

you can represent all these college coaches.

You can represent some of the biggest players in the NFL, but you had the greatest money-making prospect within your grasp as you were grooming through Texas.

He was sleeping at your house and you didn't even get him as a client.

That's a big whiff.

Hey, Jimmy Sexton rarely misses.

Jimmy Sexton, an absolute beast.

A weapon.

The fact that, obviously, that may, everybody's connected.

It feels like, let's speak, let's talk about that.

Shout out to Jimmy Sexton and his boy

and Scott Sheffler.

How is that networking event up there?

Just billionaires walking around everywhere at that Michigan golf outing that you're currently at?

This is a fundraiser for Michigan.

And so we've got the Michigan football program today.

And it was very nice because it was very opportune.

The last time I believe I spoke to you, I was at Oakmont playing with Wink Martindale.

And when I got home from Oakmont after my flight was canceled and I had to drive seven and a half hours from Pittsburgh to New York, after I got home and went to go play golf that week, I realized that my five wood wasn't in the bag.

They left it behind.

It turned out it was in Wink's bag, but Wink left his clubs in Baltimore and went to Florida for three weeks.

So Wink conveniently returned my five wood to me today.

And the five wood has been glorious so far, Pat.

That's amazing.

I assume you hit that five wood.

What, 155, 160?

Oh, maybe that you're giving me credit that I don't deserve.

Maybe 125, 160.

I'm joking.

I'm joking.

Happy you're joining us.

Thank you for joining us.

Tell your partners there.

We apologize for the interruption.

Let's talk a little NFL news, shall we?

TJ Watt gets his deal done.

$41 million per three years, $123, $108 fully guaranteed.

Every insider, every Pittsburgh person was like, this deal is getting done.

This is a no-brainer.

He held out of mandatory minicam.

I thought that was a big deal.

I thought to myself, maybe this is uglier than we thought beforehand.

How did this deal end up getting done?

And three years, 123, was this the number it was always going to be for TJ?

Well, I think the issue really when they were sitting down and talking was length.

I think the Steelers would have preferred a shorter term deal and TJ Watt would have wanted a longer term deal.

and they always were going to re-sign him as we talked about the fact of the matter was i think it's very convenient for a lot of these guys to take a stand in that mandatory minicamp going in whether it was tj watt or trey hendrickson or terry mclaurin or some of the players who didn't show up and incurred over a hundred and seven thousand dollars of fines that is collected and mandated by the collective bargaining agreement you you basically say okay i'm going to make a hundred and seven thousand dollar statement to my team that I'm not happy with where the talks are at.

And as you go into the summer, if you're getting the deal that TJ Watt gets done eventually, what is $107,000?

And even at the end, the agent could say, hey, I need you to throw in $107,000 more to cover the fines.

And it was pretty incredible because TJ Watt has 108 sacks in his career and the guaranteed money was $108 million.

And I asked, was that

coincidental?

Did we know?

They didn't even realize it.

So that was by...

Ah, so you actually presented that piece of information.

So this is good.

Did you guys do this on purpose?

108 sacks, 108 million guaranteed?

That's cute.

And they didn't realize it until it was raised, that that was exactly.

how it matched up his career sacks and the guaranteed money.

But what's $107,000 on $108 million guaranteed?

You're not talking about anything.

And that's why TGY can make that statement, even though they were just really far apart, disagreeing on the length of the contract.

So I think he would have wanted four years.

I think they would have liked two years.

They compromised, met at three, and there's the deal right there for $123 million with $108 guaranteed.

That's a sick graphic out of D-bone.

Payday for TJ was sitting right there, but I do appreciate payday for Walmart.

Yikes.

You know what's very interesting about this to me is that to me was probably the last big move in a Steelers offseason that was probably unlike any Steelers offseason in recent memory.

You think about all the moves that they made.

This is usually a conservative franchise, laid back, relaxed, not very aggressive.

And here's an offseason where they go and they trade for DK Metcalf.

They sign Aaron Rodgers.

They trade for Jalen Ramsey.

They trade for John Un Smith.

They trade away Minka Fitzpatrick.

And then they sign TJ Watt to the richest deal that's a non-quarterback deal in NFL history.

And it gets, I mean, that was,

I said it before, these are not your father's Steelers, and they did not operate that way.

And I think they're tired of losing six straight playoff games and are being very aggressive to try to do something to snap that streak and make sure that it doesn't repeat itself.

Well, yeah, my father knows that Bill Carr could have built the boys up no matter what the roster was.

You know, that is what Bill Carr.

But my father and my father's friends would say, Yeah, it's about time we tried to win some fucking games.

Like, I think that all of Pittsburgh is pumped about this, but expectations now are only one thing.

Here we go.

Steelers,

here we go.

Pittsburgh's got to go.

Super Bowl.

There they go.

Good luck, boys.

Congrats to Khan, too, getting all those deals done.

We are very proud of them.

Speaking of another deal, especially for a pass rusher, George Karlaftis gets his deal done.

Congratulations to him.

Obviously, the Chiefs have been making moves.

Quarterback tacklers have gotten paid.

Obviously, in this world that we're in, disrupting the quarterback is a massive ordeal.

A lot of people are saying you need four number one overall tight picks on the D line.

D line seemingly becoming a place of interest for all teams.

Not that it hasn't been in the past, but a lot more money going there.

Carl Aftish is a beast.

Seven sacks in the last two postseasons, which is all seven games, most in the NFL.

23 pressures, seven games, most in the NFL.

15 quarterbacks hit, seven games, most in the NFL.

So this guy, whenever the lights are the brightest, shows up, he gets paid.

Now, let's move to another quarterback tackler that is obviously sitting on deck.

Go ahead, D-Bucks.

Yeah, we got an elite leap pass rusher out in Dallas.

Micah Parsons set to play on his fifth-year option.

I believe it's around 24 million.

And with these new deals getting done, Miles Garrett, now TJ getting his done.

What's the latest with Micah?

The Cowboys are slow playing it again.

Surprise, surprise.

And they have not been in any rush.

Now, Micah is going to go to camp, and Micah is going to be there, and Micah is going to do what Micah does.

But I can tell you that going into camp, the two sides were not very close to a deal.

And I don't think the Dallas Cowboys have been overly aggressive about getting a deal done.

There have not been very many conversations.

And I still think that everybody believes that at some point this deal is going to get done.

But if we go back to last offseason as a roadmap, CeeDee Lamb got done, I believe, late in August.

Dak Prescott got done on the opening day of the NFL season.

And we'll see when they can get something done with CeeDee Lamb, with Micah Parsons, who they want to get done, obviously.

But it doesn't sound like it's on a fast track right now.

Now, that can change.

And I do think that when they get a deal done with him, it's going to make him the richest defensive player in NFL history.

It'll be the richest non-quarterback deal in NFL history.

But again, not close right now.

And we'll see if they can find their way to get there this summer as they have in the past with some of their other premier players.

Mula Gats are 1,000% waiting on TJ.

No questions asked.

Waiting on TJ, waiting on TJ.

Yeah, but

that's fine.

But the Cowboys have not exactly been pushing the envelope either, Pat.

We'll see.

They've been very slow about this.

I respect Jerry Jones and his business acumen.

I do, personally.

I love it.

Ever since I watched him on that Joe Buck interview show where

he said something along the lines of, there's people that are 230 yards out from the green, a power five.

It's going to be their second shot, and there's a little bit of water.

And they lay it up.

And then they try to get a birdie.

He said, I'm standing over that ball, and I'm going for the green every fucking time.

And then he talked about how he went all in for the Dallas Cowboys.

And he talked about how he always goes all in for all of his businesses.

And then you watch him lead the most valuable franchise in the world, basically.

You think to yourself, wow, this guy, great businessman.

Then you watch the way some of his contracts get handled.

It's like, Jare, if you were to get these done a little bit earlier, this wouldn't be as big.

CD, obviously massive.

Dak Prescott, he was like two years late on that deal for it to be as big as it was.

He always gets it done, always takes care of his guys, but it always comes at some sort of significant cost, which led to one of my favorite quotes I've ever heard, which he said, anything I've ever loved or has become very good for me, people have told me I've overpaid for.

It's like got an excuse for it.

I love it.

But we all just know Micah's deal is going to get done.

Even if he gets hurt, even if he doesn't play well, we all assume the deal is going to get done.

And now it's just like, when, I guess, when?

Maybe it's after a Cowboys loss happens.

Cowboys loss happens like week six.

What happens?

Boom.

Congratulations.

Micah Parsons just signed for $42 million a year on a four-year deal.

It's like, we all know it's going to happen, Jare.

We all know it's going to happen.

Might as well just get it done.

Like a Chris Jones situation with the Chiefs where they open up week one.

He gets the money.

Up in the suite.

He's up in the suite.

Chiefs end up losing to the Lions.

David Montgomery runs all over him.

And then, what, next, the week after, two weeks after that, Chris Jones gets paid $90 million?

Yeah, it's going to happen.

And the market's been set.

Miles, TJ, Micah's going to expect the same exact thing.

Mulligator's going to do it.

Okay, we know we're taking up your time.

Let's continue to roll around the NFL quickly.

Tone has a question speaking of the Lions.

Yeah, Chefty, it feels like, you know, New Year, same situation potentially for the Lions.

Levi Ozerike comes, shows up for camp, and then, you know,

we get reported that he's out for the season with an ACL.

Dan Campbell actually had this to say.

All right, let me start with Levi.

Levi is out for the year.

All right, Levi's surgery was,

you know, it was.

It was significant, but it needed to be done, you know, out of his control, and it needed to be done.

And so he will miss the season.

So, Shefty, we were talking about like the wording there from the MCDC was like a little weird.

Did he show up with an ACL injury?

Did it happen in the first day of practice?

What happened there for the Lions?

Look, he's missed parts of the last three seasons with injuries.

He had the injury last year, and from the sounds of that, without knowing, it sounds like they went in there and the damage was greater than they anticipated.

And he's going to miss extensive time.

I don't know whether there was more damage than just the ACL or what the situation was, but obviously it was a significant injury that's not going to allow him to play the season.

It's the third straight year that he's missing time.

You just hate to hear it.

You could see how emotional Dan Campbell was about that, and he's been a great player when he could stay healthy, and that's what's frustrating and disappointing because you want somebody like that out there.

And now they have another setback.

I don't know whether he aggravated it or just so extensive the first time he did it that when they did the surgery, it was more than they thought.

Okay, so

he said it was out of his control.

Was there a previous surgery that was maybe not completed?

Why would the out-of-his control line happen?

I don't.

Well, I think sometimes they, I'm guessing, I'd have to make another call, but I think they go in there and sometimes the damage is just greater than you'd ever imagine.

It's more significant.

And that looks like it was the case here.

But I can't answer that definitively because I do not know that.

Okay, well, we would like to let old cousins know.

Godspeed, brother.

Sorry this happened.

And for the Lions, that's only one thing that's kind of happening.

Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, we have a list of things for the Lions here.

Obviously, Aylin McNeil is out until November with an ACL injury from last year.

Aiden Hutchins returning back from his leg surgery.

Malcolm Rodriguez tore his ACL on Thanksgiving.

Frank Ragnow retired.

Zeitler goes in free agency, and then both coordinators are gone.

It's a list of things the Lions have to win.

Jeez, you're up there at that Michigan-alove golf house.

Aside from both the coordinators, they lost eight assistant coaches in all.

Eight.

So

Brad is a coaching staff that got rated.

We're not going to panic, okay?

We still have MCDC and Jared Golf.

Well, let's see if we're not going to panic.

You're up there at that Michigan golf outing.

Probably a lot of Lions fans around there.

How's the temperature on the Lions this year?

The NFC North has not gotten worse.

No, it certainly hasn't.

No,

it could be as tough a division as there is in football.

It's going to be loaded.

Every team's going to be tough.

I still think the Lions have a really good team.

There are a lot of people who believe that they're just going to continue on.

Johnny Morton's going to take over on the offensive side and do great things.

Calvin Shepard on the defensive side are going to do great things.

There's no way that you could lose that amount of coaching brain power and think it's not going to impact you.

Agree.

Plus, with all those players that are already injured, last year, that was kind of their problem.

But I have faith in MCDC to give him bullshit.

And I have faith in Shep.

Hell yeah.

I mean, look what the Eagles.

The Eagles did it.

Yeah, it took them a year.

They were coordinators every year.

It took them a little bit.

And they have a top 10 quarterback just like Detroit does.

We're not going to get into that.

Number one, I'm not going to get into that.

I enjoy people going crazy.

Hey, before we ask you another question, are you going to golf?

What's going on?

Are you guys in the middle of your round or what's going on?

Yeah, Eisenberg.

They just played a hole without me because it's best ball.

Did we birdie that or was Cardet?

Yeah, yeah.

They just informed me that we par because I didn't get the fuck.

Come on.

I've been safety.

Okay,

so

is Eisenberg a player or no?

Yeah, he's good, but he's been gone for three weeks.

He's been touring the world.

My friend Steven Eisenberg has.

And so he's blaming it on being out of the country.

Comes back.

He shot an 81 at Oakmont, 41 on the front line, 41, and he's coming.

He hasn't hit a show yet today.

Was he at Bezos' wedding?

Was he ever there at Bezos' wedding?

Were you at Jeff Bezos' wedding?

Is that where you were?

No.

No.

Eisenberg could be, though.

We just looked him up.

He's the president of Ken Wall Steel Corp.

Burned dear boy, Mill.

Okay.

Steve angry, Steve.

Stay here, Steve.

You're great.

Hey, guys, just stick what he wants to be.

Guys, stick what he wants to be.

All right.

Hey, stay away from concerts.

Just in general, pal.

All right.

Hey, Pat, I'll also say this, being that we started on agent work, and we're going to end on agent work here.

All I know is that I flew in.

I was supposed to do a post-round roundtable with Desmond Howard and Kirk Herbstreet talking all about Michigan football because Herbie's son goes to Michigan.

Herbie's come over to the right side.

It's great to see.

He's now a Michigan fan.

We love to see him being part of the Michigan family.

I was going to do this thing.

I showed up today because I was told Desmond Howard's here, Kirk Herbstreet's here, and I'm going to be doing this discussion with them, the three of us.

I get here, and Kirk Herbstreet is not here.

He's shooting

a

dog food commercial.

Now,

last I checked, I've got four dogs.

I think Herbie's got one or two.

I've got more dogs.

So whoever is representing me is doing a poor job that I'm not included in a dog food commercial with Kirk Herb Street in a convict that I came to where he was supposed to be here.

Yeah.

That he blew me off.

Yeah.

That's not right.

Who would have thought, Coonan?

Yeah, Coonan.

Come on, buddy.

Coonan, get to the bottom of it.

You need to leave some pet food for this guy.

He's got four dogs.

Kirk has four or five dogs as well.

But Kirk has a lot of that.

He has a fleet.

He has a fleet of these dogs.

They're also the most famous dog in the country.

Yeah, and Peter is also one of them.

Maybe you need to do a little Peterizing of one of your dogs.

Sure.

Because Peter, dog.

I got to start taking my dogs to Sunday countdown.

The oldest one is 19 and is blind, and she can't hear, and she goes to the bathroom everywhere.

So I don't think that's going to be a good thing.

Yeah, I don't think Greeny will mind when Ella will go to the bathroom all over the studio on Sunday.

I don't think so.

Yeah, Green's fine with it.

It's not going to be on his red bottoms.

Hey,

real quick, didn't PFT had his dog breaking news, right?

Yeah.

PFT had his dog, rest in peace, I think, breaking news for a while.

Leroy, yeah, Leroy.

I think Leroy, rest in peace, I believe.

You

Leroy was a real newshound.

Yes.

Yes, he was.

I agree.

That is the case.

You should think about maybe one of your dogs becoming an insider.

Then you get to Pete.

Because Peter's a part of game day.

Yeah.

Peter is a part of College Game Day.

Formally.

He's just wherever he.

He's a part of it.

You need your dog to start breaking some news.

Now we start getting the pet food, food, the dog food.

Maybe not L, though.

Maybe the fresh pets.

Yeah, the 19-year-old's gonna be a tough sell, but hey, maybe, maybe that's a good play in the background there.

Brady and Apple.

All right, Apple, they're about five years old.

They're trying for this.

Like, if Herbie wants to share the spotlight and I have an agent that does it, you know, his job worth his salt, you know, and he gets one of these dog food deals, that'd be great.

All right, enjoy yourself out there.

I think there's a lot of people on that course who probably get you a deal.

You're the man, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm Chef.

Blind and

dude.

He's sitting here and all of a sudden I need to get...

What do you want?

Me, kibble some bits, dude.

I think Herbie might be lying too.

Yeah, I think they already shot the commercial.

But there could be another commercial.

Oh, there could be.

There was a time last year, middle of

college football season, where

it was Friday night, maybe.

Herbie was in town.

Because his boy was playing high school football.

He has since committed to Michigan on scholarship.

Congrats to Chase.

And that is an interesting dynamic.

Herbie's dad, I think, coached at Ohio State.

He obviously was Ohio State quarterback captain.

He's on that college game, they said, O-H-I-O-you.

And he starts saying some stuff, obviously, about Ohio and everybody.

Herbie is Herbie.

Ohio people get mad at him.

Then all of a sudden, his boy does not get offered a scholarship from Ohio State.

No.

Does get offered a scholarship to Michigan.

His boy's worked his ass off and played football his entire life, trying to create his own path.

I got a scholarship offer to Michigan.

Go blue.

Yeah, hell the victors, baby.

You'd be a fool not to take it.

And then all of a sudden,

Kirk there, go to all of Ohio going,

you told him to go there.

We know you did.

And Kirk's like, no, I actually love Ohio State.

Kirk gets like emotional talking about Ohio State and what it means to him.

His dad, I think his father was coached there a long time.

So Chase going to Michigan.

First of all, Chase, we love Chase.

A lot of moxie on Chase.

A little too much.

And I easy on the whole.

Love.

Okay.

I love Chase.

I like the kid, kind of.

What?

I hear what you're saying.

I love Chase.

If we're to go around the room, Ty.

He's a good boy.

I think Chase.

Tyler.

And Tone.

Good boy.

Good boy.

He is a sweet ball.

I love Herbie.

He's a strong word.

You know what?

Okay, Dumpy also has his dots about love.

He likes Chris.

I don't really know him that well.

Okay, Nick's never been around Chase.

I would say Chase has some takes.

Every once in a while, Chase will fire off some takes.

He's a kid.

He's a high schooler.

Boy, I's a college, obviously.

He's lived a life.

You want to know why Herbie is not up there?

Because he's going to be chirp, chirping for Ball State in a year.

Okay.

I love Herbie.

I do.

It's real tough coming in as a quarterback when you're coming in with the number one recruit overall in the entire.

What do you think this is?

You think Chase doesn't understand the situation he's walking into?

I know he understands the situation.

And it is sweet.

Hey, I'm going to Michigan.

It's sweet.

You know what?

You don't have to deal with?

You know, a year into college, hey, I'm transferring to Miami of Ohio, actually.

Let's go, Mac.

Chase might end up being a West Virginia boy.

He can run.

Bingo.

That's what I'm saying.

Chase can run.

Exactly.

I'm not saying he's going to leave.

You need to watch.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

You're starting to dance too.

Miami of Ohio, the Ohio Bobcats.

Hey, 19 days old and too much, buddy.

Okay, we're Big 12.

Dancing too much.

You know who's dancing too much?

Who?

Schefter.

Because if I was 19 years old and blind and deaf, I'd want to get shot in the head so bad.

You're talking about that dog?

19 years old is a long time.

Yeah, that's super old.

280 dogs.

He's going to be so mad.

Why?

If I'm the

Valerie, our dog, Pit Bull Sharpe, she's like 12 years old right now.

Okay.

12, 13 years old.

That makes sense.

Yeah, but she's obviously an older dog.

That's like a good thing.

And like just hanging out with her.

I'm talking about quality of life, those last five years.

Yeah, it's still sweet, though.

She has like a bed basically in every room, you know?

Like, it's a really cool thing.

When he said 19, I thought to myself,

seven more years with Valerie would be wild if that was to happen, especially at this case.

But man, those dogs.

Valerie,

I hung out with Val Saturday a little bit late with her.

And I gave her a speech, basically.

I was like, hey, you've been a good dog.

Just want to let you know that.

Whenever you need to go, you go.

You have a good one.

Well, could you imagine doing that for seven years?

19?

No.

Oh, he's talked about that dog.

Like, he legitimately has to pick it up and take it outside every single time it has to go to the bathroom.

Pooping dust.

That's what I'm saying.

That's what they're saying.

Pooping, probably not happening if I had to get it.

Yeah.

Poop is the toughest thing.

Just puke and poop.

It's a lot of energy to poop, I guess.

Jesus.

All right.

Let's.

Von Miller has signed with the Washington Commanders.

Wow.

Also now.

The Washington whatevers.

First of all, we love Von Miller.

We are Von Miller fans.

There was a time where Von Miller was coming on the show once a week.

Remember that?

It was great chit-chatting with him.

He signed an exclusive deal with the place.

Couldn't join us anymore, which is a bummer, but we still continue to follow along.

Future Hall of Famer, probably future general manager in the NFL.

He has now signed with the Washington Commanders.

Washington Commanders, obviously, in the middle of trying to get a new stadium built in Washington, D.C.

That's potentially going to be put on hold.

And we learned that from a Truth Social post from the President of the United States, who said they need to change their name back immediately.

And I'll tell you what, I don't know if the President has read the T Leaves on the internet or has talked to the Washington fan base.

I will say this from a personal opinion and my own personal research.

The name Commanders at the beginning didn't love it.

Who are we?

Commanders.

Tough name.

Sure.

Go so.

A couple years later, here now, after them having some success, Commander's not a terrible name.

Not a horrendous name.

Washington football team didn't think it was a horrendous name.

I think if you win, anybody will like any name.

What I will say, though, for the Washington football fans, they played here away game a couple years ago.

They took over a lot of Lucasville Stadium.

Okay, they got a big fan base.

Which is wild.

I didn't see a single Washington Commanders piece of merch.

What did you see?

Anybody?

Football team?

No, I didn't see that either.

There's no WFTs or WTFs.

It was all from the

days.

When Alex Smith was there.

Joe Disman.

Yeah.

Doug Williams.

It was Duck Williams.

Every piece of merch.

Shirt, hat.

I mean, I think I saw towels, blankets.

And there was like 35,000.

Scary Terry went off that.

And insane.

Deep touchdown to win in the fourth quarter.

We should have beat them.

It was an awesome environment.

It was electrifying.

But there was Washington fans everywhere.

All of them had Redskins merch on.

All of them.

Every single person that was there.

Now, is that because they are not from there?

So they've been generational fans, like my dad was a fan, my father's father, my mother's mother was a fan of the team.

And this is the only merch that they had.

They had not bought the new stuff yet or whatever the case is.

I think President Trump knew that there is a contingency of people that are very much on board with getting back to the Redskins name.

With that being said, I think it's going to take a lot.

I think it's going to take a lot for that to happen.

Is the threat of a stadium being stopped from being built enough to change change it back?

Yep.

I think the new ownership group certainly has something.

You got to figure out.

Hey, that's a bold play.

Now, obviously,

there is a former,

I believe before he was president, Donald Trump tweeted about this, saying as president was president talking about the name of a football team.

Yeah.

More important things.

There are some important things out there.

Situations are situational, obviously.

And you can kind of do this whole number.

But I think what people need to realize, especially the people that are very very against whatever he says.

And if he says something this time that you're against, it's like there is a contingency people on the other side.

They're very loyal and pumped behind that.

And now we find ourselves yet again at a beautiful crossroads of, boom, I'm right.

No, I'm right.

Until nothing happens.

All I know is they need a new stadium.

Bad?

The poop pipes were bursting.

So bad.

All over the place.

People are damn near dying with rails cracking from fans doing this.

People are having a drink of beer.

All of a sudden, what's in their beer?

Oh, poop and water and urine.

What's that from?

The pipe right above me burst.

Boom.

John took a dump two seconds ago.

Now it's in my beer because this stadium stinks.

Things cracking.

People potentially falling.

This is a massive organization.

This is the biggest league on earth.

This is the most profitable league on earth.

They have been an embarrassment.

That stadium has been an embarrassment to the league.

We used to see it and think to ourselves, is that a...

Is that an MLS stadium?

That can't be an NFL stadium.

That's got to be an old NFL stadium, right?

They got a new NFL stadium.

They moved out of that stadium.

Now the XFL is playing there.

Is that where the D.C.

defenders are playing?

No, that's where the Washington NFL team is still playing.

It's like, that's an embarrassment.

Can't have that.

So can't have the stadium holdup happen for the good of the league, for the good of the game.

But boy, it feels like if actual politics are getting involved and the president's involved, and there's a lot of...

on both sides.

I think it's a big classic Washington, D.C.

I don't think anything's happening.

Feels pretty simple to me.

Feels like we're playing that stadium for the next 20 years.

I don't know.

You want a new stadium?

Go back to one of the most recognized names in NFL history.

Yeah.

Clearly, that is how a one-side definitely feels.

They can't play in that stadium.

And you just said it.

It is for the next 20 years, and we're all going to watch because Jaden Daniels is there.

Like, this is now becoming a premier place.

I mean, they have Debo Samuel and Terry McLaurin.

Like, they have notable, notable names.

And now Jaden Daniels is, what, 24?

So for the next 15 years,

this team's going to be on primetime and competing for Super Bowls.

They got to get the city in Don.

I got to get that guy's deal done first of all.

Terry Thorne.

How about the ownership being like, Terry, we want to get your deal done?

Do you know what we're dealing with?

You see this post?

You on truth?

You on truth, social?

You know who this is?

Okay, that's President University.

You're not on it?

Okay, we're talking multiple billionaire.

Terry, we're trying.

Will you just tell me you can't, please?

We're trying to get this whole thing done.

That's the president, yeah.

Can he veto us getting a stadium?

Yeah.

Sure can.

Yeah, he certainly can.

He certainly can make it a lot harder.

Then there'll be judges and this, and then some regional judge will bump it.

Sure.

I've been learning a lot about all this way too much, my algo, especially now because it actually is football related.

So my algo is like, I don't know if you've heard, but the time has come.

Politics and sports.

Boom.

Here's it right down your feed.

Here's everybody that's pissed off about it.

Here's everybody that's pumped about it.

Wow, you'll be surprised to hear that these people actually want this.

It's like, who are that?

Well, that's actually a Native American society of blah, blah, blah.

They are against?

No, they're for it.

Well, I just read that this Native American society is, well, two separate entities.

Which side?

Different.

How do they ever get anything done?

That's exactly why they won't go back.

That's what I'm saying.

Everybody from the top down, they've been doing everything right.

You know, the stadium will get done.

I think this is just, well, you know, just yapping.

Yapping on leverage.

Yapping on social media.

I am concerned about what's going on with the NIL potentially limiting what they can make.

But wherever they play, whatever the team name is, which I think it will be, Commanders, that guy, those highlights that's been running, that's the guy that need to keep in the building.

Because I think when he was drafted, it was still the Redskins.

And he's been dominant.

He's been productive year in and year out, regardless of who's that quarterback.

Con man just called it.

Jaden Daniels being there.

Seems to be the face of the franchise.

Should be a guy for the next decade at least.

You want to get your guy who's been a pillar in the organization

in there and standing there comfortable.

All these wide receivers are getting paid.

All these people are getting paid.

He should be the first guy on the list to get taken care of before camp.

They report tomorrow as well.

So hopefully they can get whenever they report

let's go back to the nil thing because that was a big storyline i saw a bunch of headlines i didn't see what was actually said same

because

this is once again politics meeting sports which is great

it's just absolutely great people love that we love everything about that the niil commission committee thing we've talked about how that's impossible impossible that would be an impossible feat because if somebody presents a deal an advertising deal from a company how is a group of people in America, in a capitalist world that we live in, hopefully forever,

Jesus, that's a wild thing to think about.

But if you're able to make money from a company, how is a group of people allowed to say that it's a worthy deal or not?

Like in America, an adult who's allowed to get a deal done gets presented an opportunity from a company to advertise for them.

and it's worth $2 million.

Then a committee is supposed to say whether or not it meets the window or the criteria of what a deal looks like.

Who says what a deal looks like?

This kid just negotiated a better deal than anybody in history.

If it's only two posts, if it's a million dollars a post, then this person maybe should be representing the United States government negotiations with other countries if that's the case.

How can you ever turn any of those down?

Like, what's the purpose of a committee?

I don't know how you could say no to anything.

Like, I think there's just lawsuits on top of lawsuits.

So unless there is some like form of,

hey, you're allowed to rule that there is a window in these things, which I guess could limit some of it.

But that committee is a waste of time, I think, personally, unless there's some sort of power.

I don't know how you, I'm very worried about how they stop all that.

And by very worried, I mean like the game's going to be great.

The players are going to get paid grotesquely.

Only some schools are really going to be able to do it.

Everybody else is going to have to catch up.

And it's like, has that always been happening just at a lower level?

Kind of.

So I'm not worried about the game itself.

And just like Sanky said, it's strained.

It's not ruined.

But it's like that committee thing, I don't see the purpose.

I don't know how that is going to do anything.

I don't know how, because how you turn down any deal.

If I was to go to a committee of agents with the deal that I negotiated with ESPN for the licensing fee, and these people who I could run circles around at the negotiating table tell me that that's not.

That's not an allowed deal, I'd be very pissed off.

Yeah.

I would be very pissed off.

Just because you couldn't get this deal doesn't mean that somebody couldn't get this deal.

And by somebody, I got this deal done.

And this is how this goes.

Here are the reasons why I got this deal.

And oh, yeah, we'll be profitable for the company very quickly, which is exactly what happened.

So I don't know how that committee,

I don't know, man.

So I think there has to be some sort of something.

Yeah.

Like there has to be some sort of something if they're even going to have that committee.

And if they're trying to make it fair, I don't know how you.

Yeah, needed to.

I don't know how you.

In my head, I have a small brain.

There's people a lot smarter than me, obviously.

But I feel like we've dealt with all the things that are currently being dealt with in this world, whether it's advertising, digital deals, linear stuff, social stuff,

all the brands basically that they're working with.

We've kind of worked with and know all the people.

So it's like, I don't know how you, I don't know how you get on track.

I genuinely don't.

So if they're trying to make some sort of,

you know, something, I guess you could word that as limiting NIO, but I guess until we see it, we have no idea.

Well, and is it like the Ryan Williams situation?

Like Ryan Williams just signed a deal with Nike.

Second player ever.

Second player ever after Shador.

Is it a situation where you know Alabama is an underarmor school?

So if Nike were to offer Ryan Williams, like is that the checks and balances type of situation where Ryan Williams could have an offer, but because his school is an under armor place?

Just real quick, whatever the school is, is what you're going to be wearing on that field.

Yeah.

Yeah, we

had a situation like this because kids are getting deals in high school now, like these apparel deals.

And obviously, you go to a university and they have these huge, huge contracts, apparel contracts with said company.

So, off the field, though, they'll still be able to do appearance.

Say, you know, you're an Adidas guy.

You go to a Nike school.

You'll still be able to do Adidas signings, do Adidas commercials and things like that.

But just like you said, like.

It's no going back.

Like, you think about the young lady in Texas Tech who just kind of reset the market.

You assume Arch Manning probably resets the market.

The young kid we just saw in the flag football game who has offers from the entire country making one-handed catches you assume when that guy goes to college these guys are going to reset the market so you can't set them back and say oh that's not a fair market deal yeah who said yeah it's gonna is tj walking 41 million a year a fair market deal i guess because miles garrett got that well before miles got it who got nobody so it's like here's the based on recent guidance issued by the college sports commission and stipulations within the house settlement the nil go clearing house overseen by the csc is rejecting or expected to reject the following types of deals deals lacking a valid business purpose, this refers to deals where the entity providing the compensation doesn't offer goods or services to the general public for profit.

Two posts on social, okay, that's a business purpose.

Deals solely designed to funnel money to athletes or school.

For example, a collective holding an event or selling merchandise with the primary purpose of raising funds to pay athletes rather than offering goods or services to the public will be rejected.

So funds have to go to them to see, can we raise funds?

That doesn't make any sense.

Deals that are not within a fair market range of compensation.

Who says what's fair market?

Exactly.

Who says that?

that would be the two posed thing yeah that's what i'm saying like who says that that i don't know i just i feel like they're gonna have a lot of trouble unless there is some sort of

power given to them, which is what they would have to get, I think.

Which goes back to what the headline could be.

But based on this, too, like this committee wasn't the whole point.

Like, hey, we need consistency because that's what we're lacking here.

Is there's just no consistency.

And it seems like with this type of thing, it's the kind of thing where the rules still might change year after year.

Because like, if you're going to do that, the fair market range of compensation they need to go through every single player in the nca and figure out what that is not only nca because some of these guys are entertainers they stream as well yeah they go through streaming true i mean social it's like i don't know how you

in these suits are going to be able to figure it out and how much time to go through all that that that take years and years to do that and who's the regulator on what the market is like who's the one that regulates what a good fair dealer's ncou nc double football he's only 75 we can't be giving this guy that guy.

Yeah, you're going to go off ratings on Duque?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

They got a lot to work on on this.

This feels like a lot of lawsuits.

Yeah.

So big.

Just

I'm viewing me as an 18-year-old.

And once again, I pitched the NFL in a, I think it was NFL PA meeting or maybe it was a team meeting.

I forget what it was.

No, it might have been an NFL meeting.

I was like, how come the cults are allowed to have scratch-offs here in town?

I'm not allowed to have scratch-off.

How come I'm not allowed to have the McAfee Millions scratch off here with the uh state uh lottery or whatever like you're not allowed to do it it's gambling i'm like you guys got a scratch off how come i'm not allowed to get scratch off and then next question i have my own merch deal i don't want the nflpa to handle my merch deal well the nflpa has everybody's merch deal well i'm not joining the nflpa do they have my merch deal still

well i guess technically not but they already have it it's like nope i'm not signing up for the flpa so i'm just thinking as somebody who has always been a little bit of a fucking prick whenever it comes to getting money like that is you know come from not a lot not not telling a story that not a lot of people have.

But I've been getting to the money since like fifth grade, selling cigarettes at 50 cents a pop.

Great business.

Great ROI.

Now, granted, whenever they catch you with a carton in fifth grade in your backpack, they're looking for you to get kicked out of that school forever.

Sure.

And Sally McFee had heard it.

You had to help me.

So it's like...

Carton?

Carton.

Yeah, I was moving, dude.

I was sounding high school.

I was like, I was moving off off camera.

I didn't even know the plug.

I was good.

The plug, hindsight, terrible.

It's human.

Yeah.

Might be

not in plumb.

There's no way.

Well, he was was making sure you weren't smoking them.

Of course.

Well, you never get half your own spot.

I obviously understood that, but I was around a lot of people that smoked sigs, and I just figured, like, okay, if you guys are going to smoke sigs, I might as well at least be able to get a grapefruit at extras here.

Yeah.

A grape juice at extras.

Yeah.

First couple were stolen from a friend's mom's ashtray.

Okay.

When we got and plucked that, she had massive lipsticks, so I had to cut off the tip, so it was a shorter filter.

Love it.

So I was just sold it that way.

Shorter filter, shorter stem.

And then once I sold it.

So long is quicker.

I sold it.

Yeah, I sold it for, I think it was like a half cig for like 50 cents or something like that.

And immediately it was like,

I got to get more cigarettes.

So I started finding ashtrays.

And then I found a guy, a kid, I guess.

He's 18 years old.

Tale.

Just start supplying me.

Yeah.

I was moving.

I was telling the high schoolers.

It was not good.

I mean, obviously terrible thing, but if they were going to smoke cigs regardless, I might as well at least get my grape juice.

Yeah.

And then whenever they caught me, it was hell.

I mean, it was, I saw the girl get caught.

I remember her name.

She was at recess smoking on school property.

One of the main rules, don't do that.

Teacher comes around the corner.

We have a system here.

We had a system.

Elise, can we obey the rules a little bit?

We're not smoking

on the elementary school property.

Streets are gonna get real hot.

Flicks that thing up.

It lands right back.

She was next to a dumpster.

She flicks it up into the dumpster.

Doesn't go into the dumpster, lands right next to her.

Then, obviously, I think Mr.

Gregory caught her.

Mr.

Gregory touches her.

Shout out, Miss Gregory.

He's a good guy.

He was actually a mass piece.

Me not getting sent to like jail, Julie, or anything like that.

Shout out to Miss Gregory.

Saw her walk in.

I watched her walk in.

And I was just like,

knew she was snitching.

Yeah.

And I just stood there.

Pat McFree, please come down to the office.

Yes.

Fuck.

Here we go.

That was a tough walk.

That was a bad walk.

I thought I was over then.

I'd been in some shit, obviously.

Not a great kid.

But that one, I thought it was over.

You sit in this room.

They took me in the back room.

Never been in this room.

I was just going to immediately deny it.

And then they brought my back back in.

So what do we have here?

that feels illegal that feels illegal entrapping a little bit yeah i didn't have an attorney

yeah it was dr puscobia he and i had quite a run and he became superintendent of this guy i mean it was me and dr p did not have a great relationship for good reason i assume but my mom went in there and said like aren't we kind of impressed with the business acumen of this guy my mom very against me normally my mom is very much uh we got to keep this guy humble you know that was the first time she's ever really gone to bat for me thank god certainly suspended like two weeks or whatever i catch up on all of it but i stopped moving sigs that day and i'll tell you what,

I don't think I've had a grape juice thing since.

They were so good.

Welch of stock, quality.

Mike, that's all I wanted.

That's how it started.

Those little grape juices.

Everybody's having these things.

They look so good.

Better than stealing them.

True.

Bingo.

I think Sally probably said that at one point to Dr.

Pashkopia.

Your kids are selling the juniors in high school right now.

You need to get them out of here.

It's like, well, aren't we kind of impressed?

He's set up a whole elaborate business.

I was pretty proud of me.

But what I'm saying is, how are they going to turn down my deal?

You can't.

Can't do it.

Boss.

Unless there's some.

Hey, you can't be selling a cigarette for 50 cents, says who this guy's buying it.

Supplied brand motherfucker.

I got it.

He wants it.

That's just kind of what they have.

Yeah, they set a max.

They would have to.

But that's what I'm saying.

That would have to come from some sort of law to empower the committee.

Right.

Committee is going to have to be empowered by

legal, I think.

Because if not, nope, nope, nope.

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Sports.

Sun comes in hot.

That's one half of the hammer.

Done.

Cowboys, the toxic table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Love the shirt.

Just give him a little juice to Tatum, letting them know during recovery and rehab.

I'm still here for you, bud.

I still got your back.

You're still the man, even though you're recovering with your Achilles tear.

Yeah, I saw you at the WNBA skills competition with Tyrese, and it made me think about how, damn, these guys are just in the beginning of their rehab, and they have so long to go.

So, yeah, a little love for Tatum.

He's still one of the best in the league.

People forget about it.

Yeah, Tatum is an absolute dog.

Never gets talked about in that fashion ever, even though he's already won and everything like that.

I think the Olympics, the way he was treated by Coach Kerr and didn't play much, has certainly added into it all.

I hope he keeps all the chips on his shoulder through this Achilles recovery, and we can't wait to see him back.

Tatum, we're pulling for you, Bob.

Hell yeah, Jason.

Halliburton, we're pulling for you, bud.

Yeah, boy, boys.

Look, boys.

On that note, Tyrese Halliburton will be joining us tomorrow.

What?

Hey!

Yeah, live in the studio.

I think he should have saved saved it.

I don't think we've talked to him since it all happened.

I don't think he's talked to really anybody since it's all happened.

It's been cool to kind of keep up with his entire process here.

I can't wait for him to chit-chat about his mindset and who all he's been talking to and how it's all gone.

He's been at every single Indiana Fever event, every single WNBA event.

If there's an event that he can get to that he can kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, and coast, his way into, he's going.

He's looking for it.

He's not allowed to leave.

He's not allowed to leave.

So his entire rehab and recovery is all happening here in Indianapolis.

Did he have massive plans for the offseason, hopefully after winning a title, after dropping 40 in game seven, after everything like that?

Of course.

Now he's at his house.

He's doing recovery.

He's at his house.

He's doing recovery.

And then if there's anything happening, anything at all, He would go to the Fisher Freight Games if they were happening and he could roll into that thing because they see him rolling as he's coming in there he's just trying to break up the monotony of it all but he's fully focused locked in he's got a little bit of a shaggy beard okay like that oh like that why did you make that how bad is his beard so he's really becoming part of the

one to ten how bad is his beard is he starting to look like the memes i i don't know he i don't know he is starting to look which was my exact first thing i said to him what memes first thing you know that's nine-year nfl vet darius j butler who lives online he knows what i haven't been on much

It ain't the moment you're doing it.

It would have been during the Knicks series.

There was a lot of the memes.

But, anyways, yes, he does kind of look like that.

But it feels like his spirits are high, but he understands that the process sucks.

You know, like an Achilles recovery sucks.

You got to work on all the little muscles in your feet and your calves.

You got to build back everything.

And then whenever you think you're back, you're probably still six months away from being back.

It's an entire mental game as much as it is physical.

Can't wait to catch up with him tomorrow.

Hopefully, we'll get a chance to catch up on how his dad's doing.

We got to

pull up too.

Pop should pull up.

It's not a bad idea.

Hey, John, come through, dude.

Listen,

I had a night with Pop Alliburton.

What?

It was incredible.

And a morning, if you know what I mean.

What?

No.

That is actually the complete opposite of who he is.

He, uh, that's why I believe he was so mad because somebody said that he cursed him out, cursed somebody out.

Somebody said, I don't know who said that.

Giannis said that he cursed him out or something like that.

This dude has never sworn a day in his life.

Okay.

Talks shit.

Has never sworn

one of those guys yeah moxie through the roof i i mean i've obviously witnessed him courtside i've gotten a chance to chat with him a couple times friday night gumpy and i go to the skills contest congrats to sabrina

she wins the three-point shooting contest yet again almost beats or she has in the past i guess uh one other time but she almost beat tyrese halliburton's men's record one more time 30 is what he got so he has the men's record i believe for the three-point shooting contest did we know that about tyrese absolutely not until we were at the skills contest.

We learned that.

Sabrina wins again.

She just won unconscious for like three of the racks.

I mean, and I was there for it.

I got a chance to witness the entirety of it, and it was spectacular.

Their skills contest, about an hour long.

That's nice.

Crazy.

Okay.

A lot of skills.

Packed into a short amount of time.

You know, if you happen to show up just a little bit late to this thing, you know, because it's downtown, you got to get through traffic.

There's a lot of this, a lot of that, you know, like you're missing a lot of this.

Let's say you were to get there about 8.30.

You missed.

Missed half the episode.

Shit, it's almost over.

You got half left.

Let's say you get there about 8.40, you know, because you're thinking, I got at least hour 20 left of this thing.

It's in an arena.

It's a skills contest.

They're going to try to drain every dollar out of this.

Well, maybe that's the issue.

That's what I'm saying.

That thing was over.

9.15.

Quick.

I don't think I've ever been in an event that was that like kind of...

It was a commercial break.

It was.

As a viewer, it was pretty...

It was nice, quick, in and out.

Now, I wonder about families that pay the tickets, get all the way down there.

You're like 10 minutes late.

You've got an hour show, then you're able to get out of there.

Who cares?

There was a weekend of stuff, but that could be a problem.

But yeah, if you got in there late, imagine you get there like 8.55, 8.50.

You're only there for this whole thing.

See a trophy presentation.

What's that?

Don't show up.

Yeah, but if it's a two-hour event, you get there the perfect time.

Don't be late.

Yeah.

Yeah, simple.

Agreed.

I mean, if you got nothing else going on in your life at all, you could get there right on time for every event that happens all the time.

Has any event ever been an hour?

In an arena?

I don't think so.

That had open tickets?

I don't think so.

I was dumbfounded.

I've never been more impressed and flustered at the same time.

When it was over, I was like, it's over?

They're like, this is over.

And I saw everybody getting up and leaving.

I'm like.

When's the next event?

I mean, if you got...

Hour 15.

If you got Diplo and the ones and twos.

I don't know.

Diplo was well received.

Yeah, Diplo, the EDM order.

Now, to be clear, Diplo did need to pass the aux to the stud buds.

I don't know what he was thinking.

Stud buds ran Indianapolis.

Not everybody.

Now, Branny, numerous times, the stud buds did call for Caitlin Clark to fix things.

You know, hey, the bars closed in 3 a.m.

Somebody called Caitlin Clark.

We keep this thing open.

Probably stayed open if I had to guess.

But the WNBA here in Indianapolis from we heard streets were buzzing.

We heard the place was live.

And WNBA players are calling in Miami.

That's great.

If you'd like to experience Miami, just much more affordable, come to Indianapolis.

It's the same thing.

That's what WNBA players are saying.

Not me.

I'm just telling you what WNBA players are saying.

Great weekend here in the city.

Congrats to not Caitlin's team for winning.

Correct.

She didn't show up for nothing either.

I think Kelsey Plum,

personally, was trying to shit talk Sabrina.

Exactly.

She was on Caitlin's team.

I believe Sabrina was on Caitlin's team.

So I think she, like, basically was shit-talking her.

I don't think she meant to throw Caitlin Clark under the bus as much.

And she did say immediately afterwards, I'm just trying to keep it light here.

And it was not taken that way at all.

No.

But a lot of people were saying like, hey, come on.

Do you know why you're in the city you're in right now?

She don't want to come to a t-shirt meeting.

I think we're okay with it.

She wore it.

But I don't think Kelsey was saying that.

She did wear it.

Yeah, they all wore that.

Yeah, Kelsey don't give a damn anyways.

They all wore that shirt.

That's a good point.

How about them coming out on the court?

Oh, yeah.

All wearing it.

And then bang, the only conversation about the entire weekend.

T-shirts.

There it is.

Let's remember, Indianapolis, Miami.

That's what they're saying.

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A man who lives in Ohio.

He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, rider cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.

Claw.

What's up, Hawker?

Yeah, Diplo was not as well received as I thought he might be in that situation, huh?

My wife knew of people that were trying to get into Diplo's event.

So if that means anything,

there was maybe a text or two sent, hey, could you potentially hook up Baba Baba to get into Diplo's thing?

So there was, we'd like Diplo to know that there was some buzz.

There's high demand.

There's a demand.

There was some demand in the city for you.

I didn't know anybody in the camp, so I can't.

Sure.

I can't.

I've seen Diplo.

I think I've seen him perform.

He's like a run.

The dude's everywhere.

He has a running club.

He has a whole movement behind him.

Sitting right next to us at Mania.

He was?

At 40?

Diplo.

Diplo was next to us.

Oh, yeah, you're right.

What city?

Philly.

Philly.

Philly, yeah.

Diplo was sitting next to you.

Diplo's a mark?

Oh, yeah.

Diplo's a bad.

Diplo's kind of the man.

What's Diplo's song, just so I know?

You know, that one that's like

so many.

I am Diplo.

The one with Parker McCallum is Diplo.

Lonely Long?

Lonely Long, yeah.

Okay, that's a banger.

Okay, I got it.

That whole album has songs similar to that one.

He's got a few.

I respect

The one with him and B.

Where are you now?

Why you gotta be so powerful?

That's a banger.

Banger?

It seems like Diplo's name's on it.

It's probably worth it.

Is the one with Dua Lippa on there?

With the baby?

Yeah.

Levito's.

No.

He does have one with the baby.

That Diplo needs to come back to town.

Diplo's coming back to the town.

That Diplo needs to come back to town.

All right, listen.

WNBA was great.

AJ, my take on it all was they're already losing 40 million.

Everybody's talked about it.

Why not just add an extra 4 million bucks?

Give them all $30,000.

Now they're up over $100,000.

At least that's a respectable amount for a professional league to pay their professional athletes, especially one that has a TV deal, AJ.

Now, them losing $40 million in profits, everybody's attacking the players saying, hey, you guys trade a product that isn't liked, that it doesn't generate capital.

It's like, okay, well, what are we spending this money on?

You know, how can you have $200 million in revenue and then spend $240 million each year and just keep rolling.

Like,

is there never a...

Who's

percentage of revenue?

That's what it is.

They got to fight for percentage, I would imagine.

But do we know if there's any other professional sports leagues that are losing as much money?

Like, do other sports?

Like, I don't know, Sam Lacrosse.

Yeah.

Allegedly, Stephen Colbert is losing.

We're learning a lot about a lot of things.

So it's an interesting kind of

process here because we've been very lucky that we've been forced to just basically only do business with our show.

The only way our business has worked, is our show has worked is business.

We have to make money for the people that we are working for.

Like that is how I kind of view it and everything.

Now, we've been very lucky to negotiate a lot of deals.

Every time though, I give a road back to how your company profits with us.

Now, I don't know how many people are doing that.

I assume a lot of agents do that as well.

I've never been in there with an agent while that's happening, but that is my

negotiating style.

Hey, here's how this thing goes in my eyes.

Here's your road back to your amount of money and plus.

Here's where you can help us.

Here's what we think we can bring you.

Now, all of that ends, though, with profit, okay?

Which is all any of these people care about.

Now, granted, if we can make the world a better place, cool.

If it's going to have massive success, cool.

But if it's going to make the world a better place and have massive success, it's probably going to.

Probably gonna

probably gonna profit as well.

So for me, from a standpoint as an athlete who actually does negotiations and has been in there with people and generated some capital, and I think the valuation of the company that I've guided is probably gonna come out here in a little bit and people are gonna be like, holy fuck, maybe this guy isn't the dumbest dip shit in the history of sports media.

But with that being said, I think WNBA players making the statement that they did, I appreciate their commitment.

I appreciate their passion.

I appreciate their togetherness, like the collective.

Everybody was wearing it.

Now, how do you get the road back to make that a profitable company?

Now, is that just on the players or is that potentially on all the business people too from the league, you know, that are doing their entire thing?

What are we spending money on?

Is it the same as what the NFL PA?

Well,

it better not be.

Age can't have it.

Did we have any idea all of this was kind of going on behind the scenes?

Like, did anyone know the magnitude of all of this, like everything happening?

So, in my head, this is straight out of a...

Let's take advantage of dumb professional athletes.

I mean, but we can't, first off, like, we can't be turning in strip club receipts as business expenses.

Transportation!

How do you get there?

Hey, whoa, whoa.

How do you get there?

You think I'm alone in here?

Yeah, right.

There's another NFLPA exec in here, too.

Did we talk about the NFLPA in here?

Absolutely.

We're bettering the NFLPA.

This is a meeting, is it not?

Yeah, certainly expensive.

Charge the dumbass players.

Now, I could see how somebody would want to do that, especially whenever you just have an actual war chest of money.

That is what they call it.

We got to build up the war chest for whenever the CBA negotiations happen because these deals aren't negotiating themselves.

They up the fees.

We need more money to get the war chest because these deals aren't negotiating themselves.

When you guys get fine, you need somebody to combat it.

We We want to hire the best lawyers.

You know how we hire the best lawyers?

Well, we got to pay them a high per hour rate.

How do we get a higher per hour rate?

Well, we need more money from you guys.

We go from 20,000 bucks from each of you guys, 22,000.

22,000, you guys, that ain't nothing to worry about.

Where's all this money going?

For you.

That's where this money's going.

Don't you worry about it.

Everybody before you has joined it.

And look at what the union has done for you in the past.

Roll a video.

Bang.

There was rats running around in the locker room.

There was E.

coli in the water bottles.

Oh, jeez.

And then your union changed the entire NFL and got you guys contracts.

Veteran men and rookie mens and yada yada.

That's because of us.

And I'm like, motherfucker, you weren't even alive when that happened.

You were handing the baton of this entire thing.

And all I've ever seen you do is try to let the world know that you are the head of the NFL PA.

Now, Damore Smith had a very difficult job.

Very difficult job.

Damore Smith, being the head of the NFL PA.

I heard his first speech.

When were you drafted?

Same.

Oh, nah.

Rookie Symposium.

A week after after we were drafted.

In Jacksonville, I think?

The Cali?

No, I think it was Jacksonville.

It was San Diego when I went.

I think it was Jacksonville when we won.

I think it alternates.

I think it was Florida.

I'm almost pretty sure.

I saw Gator.

We were doing a conditioning test thing.

I think it was in Florida.

He gave a speech, though.

This is the first time I'm hearing any union person.

Palm Beach Gardens.

Which?

Florida.

Florida.

Okay, where's that at?

Palm Beach.

South Florida.

You know where Palm Beach is.

Yeah, you know.

A lot of stuff happened down there.

Yeah, didn't you have a house in West Hollywood, AJ?

AJ?

West Hollywood.

No, never have.

Anyways, I went down there.

This guy gave a full speech about war.

We're going to war with the NFL and yada, yada, yada.

We need this and gave a bunch of quotes and all this shit.

And I'm like, man, I didn't know that's how the best business was done.

It's just like, I'm going to punch somebody in the face.

And it's like, well, I guess they feel that way as well.

Inevitably, lockout happens.

They beat us in a negotiation.

Jeff Saturday allegedly has to come in, get the deal done.

Well, how'd the deal go?

Well, it just got done.

You know, owners win yet again.

They're going to be in the cities long after the players are.

They're going to be billionaires long after these players go broke.

They have all the leverage.

We lose.

It's like, shouldn't we try to just like do business with these people?

Shouldn't we try to like, you know.

We need each other.

We need each other.

Absolutely.

And there has to be other avenues to create money other than just your negotiations with the NFL.

Well, we have licensing agreements with fanatics.

Oh, how much do the players make?

Oh, 30 cents a t-shirt.

Oh, great deal.

That's a fucking great deal.

Good insurance.

Way to really negotiate that entire thing.

Hey, I need your help.

I'm getting drug tested a max amount of times every single month for 27 27 straight months because I think this guy hates me because he thinks I'm lying.

Yes, I'm hunting for Bigfoot in Georgia.

Yes, I'm hunting for Gators in Florida.

Yes, I'm hunting for ghosts in Louisiana.

I'm tired of this guy testing me everywhere it goes.

He thinks I'm hiding, but I'm here every single time.

Can you guys help me?

We'll call you back.

Two years later, I get a call back.

You good, bro?

No, I just took 230 tests in 27 months.

Feels like I was getting targeted, Bitboy.

I won't let you know.

I pissed clean every single time and I don't need your help anymore.

I have a bad relationship with the NFLPA.

Always have.

And And when they hired this Lloyd Howe guy, I think to myself, this guy's in the middle of a fraud case right now.

His previous company was in the middle of the biggest, I think, payout in the history of something, 350-some million.

He was the finance guy for this thing that was happening.

They're like, yeah, but we like that.

We like that he was doing that.

So I was like, I think the signs were there.

You know, I think the signs were there that this potentially was not going to work out well.

But is it ever going to work out well?

That's kind of my question in the entirety.

Because immediate response is, we need this guy that's been in here for 30 years.

It's like,

I don't think so.

I think you need somebody that is never, the guy to do it.

And it was mentioned this morning.

There's one dude for this job.

Perfect dude for this job.

And I don't think, now, granted, this is me like lobbying for him, I guess.

I'm sure there's other good people out there.

But this guy, he's dealt with crisis management before.

That was his actual job.

He was a former player.

actual job at one point, career, long career.

And then he ran a team, was the president of a team.

Jason Wright, Jay Wright is the right guy for this job, I think, for the NFLPA.

Crisis management ran a team, had to create businesses, had to do his thing.

And he was a player at the same time.

It's like, feels like he's the right guy for the game, but I have no idea how much you pay at that job.

If I look at Damauri Smith, he had six different suits at one Super Bowl day that I saw him at.

I can't even imagine what the next day was and how the whole thing goes.

But it's a wild situation with the NFLPA age.

Legit.

It's a wild situation.

Well, JC Tredor, too.

JC Tredor resigning.

So I played with JC for a year in Green Bay, and then the fact that he has to resign because of all of this, I just, I guess I didn't know how,

I don't know, confusing and how unorganized and how messed up the whole PA was until all this stuff is.

You didn't know that?

I knew the PA was not, I was not a gigantic fan of the PA ever.

I never said it was like smoothly run or, hey, everything's going well.

I just didn't know it was this.

Like, I didn't know it was this much in disarray, I guess.

When did they decide to delay the player performance bonuses?

I forget what year that was.

We're going to delay these bonuses to build the war chest, right?

Yeah.

We're going to save these and we're going to delay.

We're going to pay you in two years or whatever.

I was like, where's my money?

That's a lot of money.

Where?

Who's making interest on that?

Who gets that interest?

Who's using this?

Oh, we're just keeping it away for you for a later day.

It's like, well, I fucking want it today.

Yeah, I need it today.

I'm about to go buy a Dairy Queen.

I'm about to go buy a franchise.

Yeah.

A Dairy Queen franchise.

You're going to Montreal.

And that's what I'm going to do.

So it's just, I never saw the business the same way they did, let alone them having their meetings in hawaii remember that yeah we're going in four seasons we're at oahu for what nflpa meetings two weeks

who's paying for that

we're making the players better

i can't i just couldn't i i just all of it i'm sure there's good people in there i'm sure there's good people in there and somebody within the nflpa had to point that this shit was happening so that gives me hope that at least there's some people in there but man i think a new vision would be a good idea Yeah.

I mean, it's a tough job.

And Tootsie's, by the way.

Yeah, first of all,

it's a great restaurant.

Good food.

Good food.

Overnight food.

You're making like four or five, $6 million.

You don't need to turn in a $700 receipt for a car ride, though.

It's not a car ride.

Well, you think his...

You think his family wanted to see those receipts?

Absolutely.

Two VIP rooms for the eight hours.

Expert meeting room.

Extra crep roulette.

What do they have back there?

They might have a spread of food like fucking JJ Watt.

Did you see that post, JJ?

Oh, my God.

Is that his cheat meal?

You think he was acting like that?

You think this was

how he stayed overnight?

I never did.

Maybe this is in the back.

Maybe this is what Lloyd Howell was looking at.

Is he drinking all that liquid and all of the syrup?

Oh, yeah.

He's talking all that down himself.

Badlands Booker was actually eating breakfast with him, too.

Call JJ.

That's not.

That's not just for him, right?

Get better.

Is he not?

That's like that'll, that'll put, he's on.

Ladies ladies and gentlemen joining us now JJ Watt JJ

looks sweet what's happening sorry what's happening

you tell me dude we uh hey

Real quick you don't know what breakfast is.

That's apparently what's happening.

No, okay.

You were kind of alluding.

By the way, the hair was great.

Yeah, I did.

Go back.

I did not expect the hair.

Were you alluding that being a cheat meal?

What this was your meal?

This is like a Dwayne Johnson type, cheat meal type.

Just got done with Moana.

Now we're doing this type.

Is that what you're doing here?

Because that's how I took it.

I was alluding to nothing.

I was just proud of the breakfast I made for a little family gathering.

My dad and I put it together

out on the Blackstone.

And I was just proud of it.

It looked good.

No illusions, no nothing.

Just, I mean, that French toast down there, that's some cinnamon swirl french toast oh

i mean eggs were straight off the griddle i got a lot of people saying eggs had to be cold eggs had those eggs were straight off the griddle hot fresh ready

okay so how many people ate this

uh six adults or yeah six adults okay all three kids all right that's a great breakfast hey congratulations on making a great breakfast because the way i write that was vowel play as a

viewer so i apologize i apologize i mean five slices for myself on the French toast alone.

Oh, no big deal.

No big deal.

You made it yourself.

You should enjoy it, Chef Watt.

Congrats on Espen Gold.

I missed the PA combo.

I heard there was a PA combo going on.

Yeah, so that's how we got to your breakfast here, actually.

We thought Lloyd Howell, potentially in the back down there at Tootsie's, got two of those spreads.

That's where all this money was coming from, especially because he stayed overnight.

Little early bird gets the worm down there at Tootsie's.

Lloyd Howe says, Give me the J.J.

Watt cinnamon swirl French toast egg spread down there at Tootsie's.

Yeah, disarray is a bit of an understatement.

AJ said he wasn't the biggest fan of the NFL PA throughout his career, but he was surprised about how ridiculous this all is.

I think that's probably an accurate way to depict it.

How do you feel, Jage?

Yeah, I mean, I have a similar thought.

I mean,

the PA is an extremely difficult job because you're trying to get the entire National Football League on the same page.

fighting towards the same cause and you have to remember the hardest part of it all is that it's 3.3 years or less.

That's the average NFL career.

So most of these guys are in the league for three years or less.

They do not care about long-term goals of the PA.

They don't care about long-term objectives.

We want to play and we want to get paid.

And that's how I was as a rookie.

I came in during the lockout and they kept talking about all the big picture things and everything.

And I was like, guys, I don't care.

I just want to play.

I ended up my pay, Trent Williams got drafted in the same slot the year before me.

Got a lot more money than I did.

I didn't care.

I was like, put me on the field and let me play.

As I went in my career and as I saw how this business works, I started to understand, oh, there is a whole lot you should be fighting for here.

And there is a whole lot that we could do if we all banded together and decided to use our leverage.

But I understand why we don't, because like I said, I was in that spot.

So the number one objective of whoever's going to lead this thing next, which is a near impossible objective, is to get every single player on the same page understand that you're fighting for percentages of multi-billions and billions of dollars not for little practice things not for these little things in the offseason in the ota days you need to get everybody on the same page and stand together to fight for one massive goal but it's extremely hard to do because guys just want to be on the field and getting the paychecks brother team on me

team on three one two three that's what we need judge that's what we need 296.

Are you going to lead it?

And plus also the bubble problem.

Are you going to lead it?

You should.

No.

Because I said, I literally don't know if somebody can do it because you're fighting against guys' dreams.

You're fighting against everything they've worked their whole life for.

So you got all these rookies and all these first and second year guys that have dreamt about this moment, and you're trying to get them to stop it.

You're trying to get them to say, no, I don't need to play right now.

This is a bigger thing.

And it's really, really hard to do.

You've been to those meetings.

You schedule a meeting for Wednesday after practice at the end of a a long day and it's four or five p.m and you've been working your ass off everybody's bolting out of the building they're not sitting there listening to the pa guy talk about the 401k plan everybody wants gone yeah i uh i actually didn't sign up for the nfl pa the last two years of my career because i didn't want to sit in those meetings i i i didn't because i felt obligated to say something everybody's tired i'm the punter i don't need to be the one holding up this entire meeting Everything you said is bullshit.

Do you have any questions?

I don't.

I hate that I'm here.

And then I just, I stopped going.

So I stopped signing up for it.

And I missed out on a Madden check or two.

But at the end of the day, I feel like I wanted to be a part of it because it can be special.

You talk about how much leverage they have.

Think about all the businesses.

And I put this in my very long tweet post about it.

Think about how many businesses want to do business with the NFL.

It's like the Players Association should be operating as an agency for players, getting more money.

Money protection opportunities.

That is all we're looking for here for the players.

money protection and opportunities you should be able to act and get deals done and

you should be able to i don't know jason writes the right gap for it uh all right jage we appreciate whoa whoa whoa whoa

whoa

hold on big family congrat yeah

me

you

derek tiege omar coach t the roonies we did it brother congratulations

how do we feel how do we feel come on how's how's tiege feel how do we feel come on give it to me

About the new jerseys?

Those are...

Did we see those yet?

They're better than the Bumblebees.

Okay, I hate them.

Let's go to the next one.

It's 1933.

That's what jerseys looked like.

All right, I hate them.

Let's go to the next one.

That is cool looking.

How do we feel?

We're done.

We got it done, huh?

We did it.

How do we feel?

Stage feel.

Oh, I'm happy for him, man.

One helmet guy.

He's excited.

He's extremely excited.

It's a very rare thing in today's NFL.

So it's really special.

He's earned it.

He deserves it.

And

couldn't be more proud for him.

um

did you see how jacked he looked his right arm has he gained weight he looks huge he looks very jacked has he changed anything jage

um i mean he's in a great spot i know he's i know he feels extremely good he's been training his he's got a thigh what the hell's hanging off his right shoulder

Yeah, he's doing, he's in a good spot.

He's really excited about camp.

He's looking forward to being back with the boys.

It's going to be great.

Herbig's awesome, man.

Just awesome.

Great Great Monty.

The guy that's with TJ in this.

Herbig's great.

Underrated.

Herbig, very underrated.

I hope Herbig has a massive year so that the world gets to know him a little bit better.

He's a dog.

TJ, though, looks unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Yo.

Congrats, you entire family.

I'm happy to hear that wasn't just a cheat meal for you.

That was for the whole group.

And congrats on Espanol.

Congrats on Espanol.

Did he learn to speak it?

On Bit Pooh.

I'm working on my Catalan and Spanish.

We We got a dual language going on and I'm not fluent in either so I'm working hard on both of them.

But yeah, we're very excited about Espanol.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

Gonna make some trips to Barcelona.

We obviously are gonna make

Barcelona.

Bartha!

Bartha!

Bartha!

Saw!

We'll do a McAfee boys tour.

We'll do Barcelona and we'll do Burnley and then we'll swing through the berg and then back home.

That's actually not that bad.

That sounds pretty sweet.

So we'll call it the B,

the B tour.

Killer B.

Yep.

We'll go through Barcelona, then to Burnley, then to the Berg, and then we'll come back home.

You see?

B, b, b, b, b, b.

Quad B.

That'd be great.

This team sucks.

What are we doing?

How's this?

I never heard of this team.

I never heard of this team.

Hey, I don't know what Let's Go is.

You were the same about Burnley.

You were the same.

About Burnley.

We're all, don't worry.

Vimos Espanol.

This is my team now.

What league are we in?

We're in the Super Duper League over there.

La Liga.

La Liga.

Same as reality.

Same as reality.

Same as reality.

Same as Barcelona.

Hold on.

Hold on.

For now.

We're here.

Aren't we normally?

Don't we want to live?

Don't we want to do this one and then get to here?

And then we'll go.

You bought, we're here.

Hey.

Hey, you just lead Concafa.

All right.

You just, you go to the quarterfinals on a yearly basis.

Semis.

Have your semis this year.

Have your trip.

Semis.

Make sure you're asking for more money from Man City for that goalie of yours.

They just got a billion-dollar deal from Puma.

Puma just gave them all the money.

And you're not the first person that Gumpy has told that you need to get more money from Puma.

He was telling Tyrese Halliburton that on Friday.

Have you seen this?

Holding his phone up.

You need to renegotiate with Puma immediately.

They got a lot of money.

Vamos Espanola.

That's my team in La Liga, I guess.

Is that their catchphrase?

Yes.

What's their

glad to have you aboard?

We'll get some kits over to the boys soon.

We got the blue and white in Spain.

We got the Claritin Blue in england what's the chant vamos

working on learning it working on learning it i don't even know the chant what's their mascots is it the clarets too uh we are the parakeets parakeets like parakeets

okay

what the fuck's a parakeet

that's a canary i believe

yeah same thing

don't parakeets teach them to speak like twitter that's the parakeet yeah

uh that's a that's just a bird i think think.

You mean like

a bird, I guess.

We got a beautiful stadium over there.

We got a beautiful stadium.

I think we should try and get an NFL game in RCD stadium.

How long you pay?

Put together a bid.

You're the owner.

Putting that out in the universe.

Putting that out in the universe right now.

Okay, so how many people are in on this?

We know dude was perfect, was in

Burnley.

Yeah.

Is it same group buying this one?

Yeah, same group.

Alan Pace leads the group.

He's doing a great job for us.

He's incredible at what he does.

He bought Burnley and now has purchased Espanol.

And we got a great, great organization, great system.

It's a lot of fun.

Who's Alan Pace?

He's the head of our group.

He does a great job.

He runs the day-to-day of everything, Burnley and Espanol.

Yeah, but what are you doing beforehand, though?

You don't just fall to the position of buying teams for Todder and J.J.

Watt.

He's a very smart businessman.

He's a very smart businessman.

We need his ass at the NFL PA.

He needs to stop buying up Espanol.

We need his ass over there for the players.

All right, we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen jj walk yeah jj

he didn't really compliment tj's arms much

yeah no he didn't like that because he's i bet you he's probably

they're not that big

he's angling there tj's doubled his career earnings too so it's

that yeah

which by the way thank god for the nflpa

yep they did it they did it they did it

Why does that guy just like to buy poopy teams in soccer?

Yeah, I don't know.

Gumpy, you'd know this better than us.

I thought if you buy him like Wrexham Wrexham did, Rob Mack, and uh, boys down there at the bottom, and then it climbs up, it gains value.

Then you try to sell that shit off whenever you go up, right?

Like that's business plan.

If you're only looking at it as a business as opposed to a team that you love, it feels like JJ actually like loves Burnley too, like very much so.

You can see him get a little heat whenever we start bringing up how Burnley's doing.

It feels like he's attached to them, but business-wise, he's bought both of these teams now when they're at the top leagues.

That's interesting than what I've ever heard, right?

Is that different or no?

I think with where he bought Espanol, they finished 14th in La Liga.

So if you make the Conference League or the Europa League in UEFA now, you'll get so much money.

And the way La Liga works, there's only kind of the big dog.

So if you can get into that top eight, you're getting a shitload of money.

Okay, so Alan Pace was like, I got eyes on Espanol.

Do they ever play each other?

How's this work?

I don't get it.

Well, they could get in Champions League.

They could.

Yeah, right?

If they make it to the very top, they could face each other.

Top four in each league, right?

Top four, and then there's also Europa League and Conference League as well.

So if you finish like top eight in your league, you'll get into one of those tournaments.

And there's a chance Espanol and Burnley are dancing with each other in the JJ waffle.

I would say more Espanol than Burnley, but yes.

How do you think Espanol is ahead of schedule?

Espanol is a historic team in Spain.

They've been around forever.

Well, so is Burnley, right?

Burnley's like very old.

This is kind of JJ's thing.

Like, hey, here's a good brand, cool brand.

Maybe this is the one that we latch our wagon to.

Yeah, Burnley signed Kyle Walker too from Mency.

That was a pretty big signing.

One of the greatest right-backs in England history.

If they do like a talk.

Yeah, they're doing like a Methy type thing with Burnley.

Love that.

Yeah, which I like an MLS type.

Right?

Isn't that kind of how they're doing?

They're getting some legends over there?

Yeah.

Like older legends coming to Burnley.

But movie.

Up the cloretes.

Okay.

I like that.

Like Maurice.

I like Maurice.

And the jug that Scotty drinks out.

I don't know.

Scotty probably didn't party last night.

He just flew him home.

I appreciate it.

He put that thing down.

He gets it, puts it down, goes and gives his speech.

Certainly supposed to hold that while you're giving a speech.

Without a doubt.

That thing's thing's sitting on a table next to him.

He's got hands on hips.

Yeah.

Thank you all so much.

Churns out, checks his notes.

Yeah, fucking hit everybody.

Obviously.

This guy's unbelievable.

Is he not?

He's a free.

And I guess he, for him, I just wonder what's going through his mind because he is, I look at him like I looked at Tiger when Tiger was rolling.

Like, of course he's going to win.

Of course, this guy doesn't feel any pressure.

Of course, like, he's going to hit, like, the first hole.

Like we said, his second shot goes to like three feet and he taps in for Birdie to start the whole tournament or the whole final day.

Like, I don't know.

Like, the guy's just not human right now.

It's, it's ridiculous.

Yeah, it's unconscious, but then he is more human than he's ever been.

He's like given more human answers than we've ever heard before from him and giving answers that we've never heard before from the top of the top.

You know, the way everybody talks about the intensity and everything, the way they view it and the mindset you have to have to be great, to conquer all these mountains that you have to conquer every single day to become this damn good in this big of a moment.

It's like, you've got to be a real dog.

He is a real dog.

Scotty Scheffler is a psycho.

I would like everybody to understand that.

Scotty Scheffler, whenever it comes to golf for his entire life, has been a psycho about it.

Had to be.

Had to be to get to this point.

And the ability to be able to manage that and still be who he is.

I think golf is the perfect sport for that type of attitude, obviously.

Obviously, Tiger was a little bit different, but like how he's been able to do that, even when he was getting arrested at his tournament.

This is because he's the number one player in the world.

It's his tournament that he's showing up at, basically.

He's getting arrested.

He's like, where are we?

Okay.

Just like completely cool.

As opposed to, imagine if that was, I don't want to start saying everybody's names.

Imagine Peyton Manning gets arrested, driving to a playoff game outside of the stadium.

You think Peyton would be cool with everything, how everything would just go?

Think about Tiger in the same situation, having that happen to him, what he would be like.

Wayne Gretzky, I think maybe coolest goat that we've heard in a long time.

If he was to get stopped right outside, I think that would affect you a little bit.

He just, no big deal.

I'm a stretch in jail, actually.

It's just like, obviously, he's a very man full of faith and everything like that.

And he says, you know, a lot about the Lord and Jesus Christ and everything, which I respect and appreciate.

But here on earth, having to deal with all the adversity that he's having to deal with while leaning on that.

I, nothing but a hat's off.

We are lucky to be around while this guy is around.

I don't know how long this lasts.

I have no idea how long.

Seems like maybe forever.

Hopefully.

He fooled me this weekend.

I thought, you know, when he was talking all the deep shit, because you mentioned it, you know, talk about all the greats, Peyton, Tom, Jordan, Tiger Woods, like they weren't speaking on any of this bit.

They just spoke on dominating and killing the opposition.

So for him to be having those deep answers going into it, do we have the videos?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, let's go to it.

It feels like you work your whole life to celebrate winning a tournament for like a few minutes.

It only lasts.

a few minutes, that kind of euphoric feeling.

And like to win the Byron Nelson Championship at home, I literally worked my entire life to become good at golf, to have an opportunity to win that tournament.

And you win it, you celebrate, get to hug my family, my sister's there, it's such an amazing moment.

And then it's like,

okay, now what are we going to eat for dinner?

You know, life goes on.

There's traffic outside.

We're going to win.

Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I haven't in the game of golf yet?

I mean, it brings tears to my eyes just to think about because it's...

I've literally worked my entire life to become good at this sport and to have that kind of sense of accomplishment I think is

a pretty cool feeling.

you know to get to live out your dreams is very special but at the end of the day it's like I'm not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers I don't I'm not here to inspire somebody else to be the best player in the world because what's the point you know this is not a fulfilling

life it's it's fulfilling from the sense of accomplishment but it's not fulfilling from a sense of like the deepest you know places of your heart you know there's a lot of people that make it to what they thought was going to fulfill them in life and then you get there and all of a sudden you get to number one in the world and then they're like, what's what's the point and you know i i really do believe that because you know what is the point you're like why do i want to win this tournament so bad that's something that i wrestle with on a daily basis it's like showing up at the masters every year it's like why do i want to win this golf tournament so badly why do i want to win the open championship so badly i don't know because if i win it's going to be awesome for about two minutes And then we're going to get to the next week and it's going to be like, hey, you won two majors this year.

How important is it for you to win the FedEx Cup playoffs?

And it's just like, we're back here again, you know?

So we really do.

We work so hard for such little moments.

And,

you know, I'm kind of a sicko.

I love putting in the work.

I love being able to practice.

I love getting out to live out my dreams.

But at the end of the day, sometimes I just don't understand the point, you know, because

I don't know if I'm making any sense or not, but

am I not?

It's just one of those deals.

You know, I love the challenge.

I love being able to play this game for a living.

It's one of the greatest joys of my life, but does it fill the deepest wants and desires of my heart?

Absolutely not.

What do you find fulfilling?

I mean, I love playing golf.

I love being able to compete.

I love living out my dreams.

I love being a father.

I love being able to take care of my son.

I love being able to provide for my family out here playing golf.

And

every day when I wake up early to go put in the work,

my wife thanks me for going out and working so hard.

And when I get home, I try and thank her every day for taking care of our son.

It's just,

you know, that's why I talk about families being my priority because it really is.

You know, I'm blessed to be able to come out here and play golf, but if my golf ever started affecting my home life or it ever affected the relationship I have with my wife or with my son, you know, that's going to be the last day that I play out here for a living.

You know, this is not the be-all, end-all.

This is not the most important thing in my life.

And that's why I wrestle with why is this so important to me?

Because, you know, I would much rather be a great father than I would be a great golfer.

You know, at the end of the day,

that's what's more important to me.

When I sit back at the end of the year and I kind of try to reflect on things, like having that sense of accomplishment from winning the master's tournament, from winning the PGA championship, I have a deep sense of gratitude and appreciation for it.

But it's just hard to explain how

it just doesn't satisfy, is how I would describe it.

It's an unsatisfying venture.

And so I guess

what I'm trying to say is this is not...

This is not the place to look for your satisfaction.

This is something that's where you can have a great appreciation for and a great,

like a great amount of thankfulness for being able to do this.

And it's, I mean, like I said, it's literally one of the most fun things that I can do in my entire life.

I love being able to come out here and play golf and compete.

But at the end of the day, it's just not what satisfies me.

He says all that before winning the open.

He says all that before winning the open.

Whenever golf is an in-between the ears game, more so than any other sport because of, you know, if you miss by that much, it's shank.

It's a whole different tournament.

You got to hit the thing pure every single time to know where you're going.

And I am at a much different level than Scotty Scheffler at all things.

Being human, it sounds like, being a father, being a husband, he checked all the boxes in there about how, hey, whenever we prioritize what's important at this stage in life, now if you were to ask him at 18, okay, it's vastly different.

Now he's generated a lot of capital.

He understands what's available.

He understands what life is.

At this stage of my life, if you were to ask me what's important, it's this and this.

Now, this being great is an amazing thing.

And there were some people that took it negatively.

And that's always going to happen.

I think what Scotty Scheffler just said was incredibly profound.

I think it was amazing to hear the insight of what it's like to be one of the greatest of all time at something.

And at a much smaller level, whenever I talked to Jim Mercy about retiring, I told him I was like, I thought, because I didn't really know how to punt when I got drafted to the NFL.

So my entire chase was like, I want to become the best in the world at this.

I want to figure out how I can become the best at this, the best at this, the best at this.

I want to get better for my team every day.

Work, bam, ba-ba-ba-ba.

Every decision I was making was like, am I going to be a better punter or a worse punter because of this?

Can I kick balls further because of this?

And then I finally get to the point where I think, I don't want to speak out of pocket here, but I think everybody kind of realized that I became the best in the world at my jobs.

I was doing multiple,

kicking off, punting, and holding.

We almost had two perfect seasons.

So like, I think all those things, I got to the point where some would consider me the best in the world at it.

And I got up there and I was like,

I thought I would feel different.

You know, I feel

with diarrhea.

Still have traffic.

My power still goes out of my house.

Plumbing's still an issue.

I still have all these problems that I thought were just going to disappear if I became great at it.

And I was very confused by that.

I said that at the gym.

I was like, that was a tough thing for me to kind of grasp because this thing that I was chasing was vastly different whenever I got there than what I thought it was going to be.

And Jim immediately, he had a vape.

This vape smoke was going out.

He could have been a professional.

Cloud.

Vape blower, I think, the amount of smoke.

He said he was talking to one of the Beatles.

I think it was Ringo Starr.

He said, I was talking to Ringo Brother, and he said they got all the way up to the top and they just stayed up there.

And at some point, you're at the top of the mountain, you look around and you go,

this view isn't as good as it was.

Why did I?

This view is nowhere near what I thought it was going to be whenever I was puking on the way up here, when I was sacrificing my entire life on the way up here, when I was giving up friendships, when I was giving up moments.

I get all the way to the top of the mountain because this is what we're trying to get to.

And the view is not worth it.

Just not worth it.

So now what do you do?

Well, now you just got to hang out up there and look at something that you almost feel feel is like a regret because this is what you chose to focus on and he said but what the people at the top of the mountain forget is that there was a time when you couldn't see that view and the view kind of gets lost behind the mountain and then every once in a while you see a reset people kind of get reset you get dropped back down and then all of a sudden it's like wait a second that view wasn't that bad then you come back and he said it's very natural in like people's lives so i wonder if that'll happen for scotty inevitably i'm not saying it's going to happen anytime soon obviously he's incredible but inevitably it feels like whenever you get to the top of the mountain you're not always going to be able to remain fulfilled.

You're not always going to remain satisfied.

Everybody has to find something to continue to work for.

That's why, like, Nick Sabin, whenever he wakes up every day, Bill Belichick every day, that mamba mentality at a Coba, Kobe every day, it's unique.

It is a very, very unique thing that I think a lot of people from a lot of different fields struggle with.

And I think Scotty's in the middle of it, like, I've sacrificed my entire life to be this guy, and it's amazing.

And then all of a sudden, Bennett just blew up his diaper.

Okay, we need some wet wipes here.

We need to move on.

I'm still a human.

I've loved everything he said.

Yeah, it was perfect.

And that's why I think a lot of people, you know, find other things like, you know, like even like ayahuasca.

So find like, okay, what's the true meaning of this?

But like when you have, you know, you have kids and, you know, you reach all those different pinnacles, whether it's drafted, whether it's signing a hundred million dollar deal or doing whatever it is.

And then you realize, okay, there are things that are much more fulfilling.

But you rarely hear that from a guy that's entering his prime.

Like, dude, he's like 29.

Like you, you heard like Kobe, God rest his soul.

Like he was that guy kind of towards the end of his career after he was done but it's usually when guys are old and washed up and it's kind of behind them they're looking back you rarely hear a guy speaking like that when they are at the pinnacle um so i love everything about what he's doing you know obviously you know on the course and then off the course as well i think it's a great message not only to athletes but just to everybody i think so too and aj you think this is potentially a little mental game he's playing with himself

I think it's like, hey, this ain't that important.

Yes.

For sure.

I think it's hugely beneficial, especially as a golfer, because think of, I think that frees him up to go out there and play.

Because what's the worst that can happen?

I'd lose this tournament.

Cool.

I still got my awesome life outside of this.

And we know golf.

Like, look at the stress that these guys are under every single shot.

Like, say you're a dude that's a stud, but you're trying to get your first major or whatever, and you have the lead heading into the last, like, the last day.

You have to sleep on the lead and tee off at 3 p.m.

Like the amount, like, just...

Golf is a sport where you have to be free.

You have to feel like you can let it go.

And I feel like Scotty, because of his mindset, because of his perspective,

it frees him up.

He's like, hey, man, like, yeah, I work my ass off all day every day but i understand this isn't who i am but yeah it's awesome why don't i how about i just become i'll be the best dad and husband and the best golfer in the world let's see how many years i can make that go well and jordan speed saying he's able to turn it off when he goes home and everything like that that's rare like this dude's a rare this is a rare mindset that people at the top have and it might be a mental game you know to minimize golf in his eyes like hey we already have it all you know and the nike ad was sick you've already won so dope but another major is nice or whatever it is it's like, it certainly is.

That mindset in golf can be a very, you know, weaponizing.

That could be a very good one.

Knowing that, hey, alternate plans here, go hang out with my kid.

That's not a bad little fallback plan.

But you talk about the guys trying to make it and how nerve-wracking it all is.

There's a stats came out.

Obviously, we all saw it.

I think we posted in the first hour.

That's 10 consecutive Sundays.

He's had the lead going into the day and he ends up winning.

Only 27 more straight to catch Tiger Woods.

Now, he's not even 30 years old.

So this could happen, right?

Tiger had 37 consecutive Sundays where he woke up with the lead and ended up winning.

That's unbelievable.

He was an assassin.

Yeah, that's why that red shirt meant something.

You know, when that red shirt showed up, it's like, this dude's either catching up because Saturday was moving day.

Okay, so we're either catching up or we're taking the lead.

And then Sunday, what are we doing?

We're watching this jungle cat prowl this grass and mow down everybody.

And it was like he did 37 straight times.

Scotty only at 10.

Now that's, he's young, so he's going to have to catch up.

But it is crazy once you start putting the the Tiger records in.

It's like, if Scotty's able to do this for another 15 years, okay, there's a chance he can catch him.

But that's what golf is.

Golf is very much like a 50-year-old can play professionally.

Even shit, 60-year-olds can play professionally.

It's a good sport whenever it comes to that.

Yeah, Tiger also had 11 majors at the same age that Scotty is right now.

But Tiger, like, when we're talking the mentor, what?

11 majors?

Yeah.

Tiger had 11 at 28.

But then he had, you know, he had that decade where, you know, some things happened and he didn't.

So Scotty, if Scotty in his 30s,

there was a driver hit that back window of his

cash UV.

But Tiger mentally, that glass shattered,

hit him in the head from the driver.

He was at a driving range,

took the driver back like this.

Yeah, got him in the car.

Like I did with that TV.

Yeah, yep.

I think that's something like that.

But Tiger mentally, like, I feel like Tigers, like, you know, like Kobe, like Jordan, like Tom, like

Peyton, like guys that are just wild.

Somebody not even say that.

Yes, yes.

Wired to be the greatest of all time.

I feel like Scotty's wired like that and I feel like him trying to get away from golf is better because we've seen runs like this with like Speeth and Rory and Brooks and they where they won four or five majors but then like it did feel like mentally it got to them and they I mean, it took Rory 10 more years and Speetha hasn't won again and Brooks hasn't won again, but it does feel like if Scotty is able to get away I'm going to admit, because of everything you just talked about mentally, when I heard him give that answer, just like...

That was out.

Yeah, I said, I don't know.

I don't know if this weekend's the weekend for him.

Yeah.

It feels like he's thinking about too much.

And then it turns out, looking back on it, it's like, nah, he's thinking about the right things.

Yeah,

he was thinking about all the right things going in.

Is he ever going to lose?

I think, and like you mentioned it earlier, and it's, it's no bullshit.

I think he almost has to frame it that way because it hasn't been since Tiger, where if you see him playing, there's an immediate expectation like, oh, he's going to win.

Like, and you don't get that with anybody else.

So it's like, you start to feel that pressure.

It's like, hey, if I'm in the field, like, look at the, look, you go on any book.

Like, his odds to win are so much better than everyone else's.

If he's playing in a tournament, the expectation is he might not go wire to wire, but he is winning this tournament.

So, like, even if you are as good as he is, like, you could see how that would eventually kind of get to you a little bit.

Scotty, we appreciate your congrats.

Congrats on the open.

Now he's a U.S.

Open away from the Grand Slam.

We assume that'll come at some point this year.

This weekend,

probably.

Yep.

This past weekend, saw some filthy football.

The NFL Flag Championship took place this weekend, and there were some great highlights, D.

Bucks.

Did you see what the boy from the Bills did?

Did you see what the boy from the Bills did?

Ladies and gentlemen, Brady Vaughn Skiller to Sean Finnegan to win the game.

Bob was the snap.

Oh, shit.

He's down there somewhere.

Yes, he is.

Sean Finnegan goes up to to catch the Hail Mary.

Big win for the Bills squad over there at the NFL Flag Championships.

Now there's another highlight right down the sideline.

One-handed grab.

How you doing?

Keep it moving.

This is from Jalen Paguero.

Give me that.

Fingertip catch.

Now, a lot of people are saying the gloves are great nowadays.

That's not Jalen's fault.

No.

That is not his fault at all.

What a grab.

What a snag.

What a play.

Shout out to Jalen Paguero.

And then the highlight of the weekend, this dude is going to be a West Virginia Mountaineer.

Bryson Wright.

Oh,

give me that.

Of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Liam Cohen is trying to get him on the actual Jacksonville Jaguars.

Oh, my God.

What a catch.

Unbelievable.

Inverted.

Okay.

The right-hand invert catch is a filthy catch all by itself.

If you're standing there playing catch with somebody, and you have gloves on or if you're able to do it without gloves, the right-handed overtop snag will steal the show okay if you do

need a good throw to be able to do it but if you do that just playing catch people will be like holy shit what a catch that's filthy because the amount of power you have to have in your hands to beat gravity and the force of it throwing and the the dexterity to find the tip of the ball Yes, I was very good at this this one right here because it was holding, you know, at things right there.

Always looked much better and harder than it actually was once you figure out how to do it.

Then to dive over a guy for a touchdown while that kid is being thrown from 50 yards or 20 yards, 30 yards away, that's nasty.

That is absolutely filthy.

This kid's 15, 16 years old, 15, 16 years old.

Highlights hit the internet.

This dude is unbelievable.

6'2.

What is he?

I saw 6'2, 200 pounds.

That's soft.

15 years old, already holds offers from LSU, Ohio State, Alabama.

And I would like to say, shout out to Hayes Fawcett, by the way.

He does great work over there

on three.

I would like to say, Bryce and

congrats on scholarship offer from West Virginia University.

Wow.

Official?

Yeah.

Official.

Okay.

I don't know if I can do that.

I did not ask.

Rich Rodriguez if that was cool.

Coach Rod, but I would like to say, Bryson, you officially have an offer from West Virginia University, brother.

I have no idea what the NIL thing is going to be four years from now when you graduate high school or two years from now when you graduate high school.

But just know if you want to come to Morgantown, brother, and do a couple of highs or a couple of those, we'd love to have you.

Sophomore in high school.

That's crazy.

How about that Atkinson kid?

He's going to play high school right now.

That Atkinson kid that was here.

How about Manny over there in Maryland?

Yeah.

Bingo.

That offensive lineman.

All these guys that we're watching, and some of them were lucky enough to be a part of their commitments, which is such a cool thing.

These dudes are adults, bro.

And they're handling business like adults off the field as well.

I have massive respect for this next generation of footballers.

I saw he led his

football team last year as a freshman in receiving in yards.

And one of the guy who was in second was a five-star who went to, I think, Texas or Ohio State or something like that this year.

So I thought this kid's from Pennsylvania.

Is he?

Oh,

yeah, no, he's a masked guy.

He moved down.

He's from Massachusetts.

No, he is not.

He's a masked guy.

He moved down to Florida,

I believe, right after he learned.

AJ, what?

I mean, think about this as a sophomore in high school.

The kid that's on defense.

Yeah, right.

Not even fair to me.

This kid's going to be playing against high school kids here in a couple weeks.

I mean, the kid covering him in his route plays left tackle for his local Mandarin in Florida.

Three guys covering him on that particular play.

They all passed off.

Smart play.

You, you, you, you, you, you, you.

Every zoning flag?

I mean, yeah, if this dude's on the field, zone, double T, whatever the hell you can do.

But this is, I mean, this is unbelievable.

You talked about these, and he's not at this point yet, but these young kids sounding and speaking and carrying themselves like grown-ass men.

We all talked about and expected, and everything is blown up about the negative part of the NIL.

But every young guy that we've kind of come across, whether it's Ryder Lions or Atkinson, who was in here, like you're talking to them, you're having a conversation with them, they sound like grown-ass dudes.

25.

Well, way mature, more mature than I was at 17 or 18 years old.

It's unbelievable.

And then you're making plays like that.

That's why the eighth grader scholarship thing, like you, it sounds insane.

And then you see some of these kids and what they can do on a football field or, you know, on a basketball court, whatever it is.

And then it makes sense why these kids get offered 30 scholarships when they're in eighth grade because they are clearly head and shoulders.

Shout out to the NFL flag championship, too.

Yeah, there were highlights all over the place.

A lot of great football happening, AJ.

Do the boys play yet?

And daughters play?

They had a girls' flag tournament as well.

My daughter wants to play, actually.

She's big into basketball, but yeah, she's played a little bit back when she was younger.

But I mean, we know girls' flag football is becoming huge, but obviously boys as well.

This is what they do.

Like there's high school circuits where you travel around and you have these all-star teams, like you're an AAU team going around playing flag football.

Great for the game.

And the girls' high school flag football mission was the Super Bowl Bowl commercial that I was lucky to be a part of.

I think it has been commissioned in a lot of states.

I think it has been made an official.

That's great for the sport.

That's great for a lot of these towns.

That's great for obviously a whole generation of girls growing up, you know, watching.

And I don't want to like, you know, always make it about Taylor Swift, but like Taylor Swift has welcomed a lot of people into football.

Having an opportunity to play football as well at the same time, it's perfect for the sport.

And think about what flag football

can be.

It can be worldwide.

Yeah.

Oh, you need some flags in the bulk.

Yeah, it's in the Olympics already, but you're talking about like that can really on a collegiate level, get scholarships.

Yeah.

That'll be a thing.

Absolutely.

It's not going to take over tackle football.

That's what every old tackle football fan says.

That's what Roger Goodell wants.

No, no, different sports, different sports.

Got to keep those things different.

We'll continue digitally.

YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice about changing their life.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Goodbye.

Really hit that one fresh out of break there.

Yeah, big time.

It's been a good summer for us.

Great summer.

Dude, a lot of, I've seen the tweets in the mentions.

Well, you guys used to never take this many days off.

We agree.

It's been great.

Yeah.

It has been, hasn't it?

Without a doubt.

It's awesome.

Oh, my God.

We're living.

Yeah.

We're living.

We're humans right now, AJ.

It is.

I saw you hitting bombs on the golf course that you're training pots.

Look at you.

Where was that at?

Brother, I've been golfing a little bit.

I've been golfing a a little bit.

I played three rounds this year.

I hadn't played in two years, obviously.

But even having the capability...

Now, three rounds.

I played nine holes.

I played 13 holes.

And I played 18 holes.

Walked the 18 holes, though.

Walked 18 holes.

Walked 18 holes.

He played great.

Was given no other option.

Interesting little.

Those nice places tend to do that.

No, there was carts.

Oh, really?

The person I was golfing with.

I was in a cart.

The person I was golfing with.

You didn't walk?

No.

Set up the carts.

What is that about?

The person that I was golfing with set up the carts and was like, you guys can use the carts.

An immediate alpha type move.

It was awesome.

And it's like, I'll fucking walk.

Are you walking?

Is that what I just heard?

He goes, yes, I'm walking, but you guys use the cart.

I'm like, I'll walk, dude.

He goes, you don't have to.

I walk out here every day.

I'm like, I will walk.

So I walked, and I'll tell you what,

whole six, those blisters really started.

You know, all those shoes.

I had Jays on too.

So, and I've only played three rounds in two years.

These things are not really, I started getting blisters on the feet about sixth hole or so.

Legs started getting real lactic acidy around like 13, 40.

I mean, you're hiking these things.

Oh, yeah.

Did you feel one with the court?

I did.

And I also played better.

Okay.

And it kept me more locked in.

Okay.

I enjoyed it, actually.

I would like to do that every time I golf.

And it wasn't that long of a round.

That's the thing.

We played three hours.

We played very fast.

It was very, very fast.

That's the piss.

It was good, though.

It was really, it was, I've been playing pretty good golf, AJ.

Pretty good golf.

You don't move your feet.

I tried to be Scotty Scheffler, but can't be, I guess.

No.

I just can't be Scotty Scheffler.

Not everyone's playing though.

So I've been keeping the feet still, you know?

And that's really changed a lot of my game.

Literally, all I focus on is don't move your feet.

Because last time, you know, because I'm all flexible, I'm out here.

Yeah.

You know, I'm digging in.

You're still coming out of the pocket.

I'm ready to.

Yeah.

What you see is, because I've watched.

Are you Kyle Wasolan?

I don't know.

Kiwisolid.

So so much.

Kiwa Shallow, and I've been watching.

I think feel versus real, two different things.

But I think just osmosis

watching Kiwa Shallow's techniques, I think it's starting to.

You look like it's Kia Shallow.

Yeah, thank you.

This one was part of the podcast.

I'd take you over Kia Shallow any day.

You're playing.

Do not.

He's a good player.

I would say that's bad.

I played hold with him.

Yeah.

So

you know what he has that I don't?

A hammer?

Whoa.

Other gimmicks?

How the fuck are you?

How big is he?

Unbelievable.

This guy's unbelievable.

I'm assuming.

What are you saying, Bob?

I'm saying his dollar's got a hog.

Yeah, I would assume T was shallow.

He could throw it over his shoulder.

By the way, this guy hits the golf ball.

I understand.

I'm not taking any offense.

Unbelievable.

But with that being said,

he does have a hammer.

We can tell by the way.

I could tell everything about

there.

He is with his hammer, actually.

And that's small.

He's actually pretty comfortable with that.

You see his real one in his hands.

this guy has helped me out immensely just by watching he should be charging for these videos because that's what i used to do right there you ever use your hammer like this absolutely not that's not how i swing that thing use a hammer like this he says and i get the driver in my hands and then bang baby draw just like he was shallow and

no

gone see ya into the night sky perfect perfect shot and the reason why i didn't put the tracker on it is because that green tree line in the back is the perfect background for that ball to fly perfectly

out there he knows the distance of his clubs you see i had a lot of that we're 107 yards out

i got a 54 in here i got a w in here i got a 60 degree in here where how fuck far do these go no idea let's find out on the course with real shots so we're doing a lot of that you hear it too ear to ear it couple i thought to myself

keegan brow i dunno a thousand times fucking ear to ear buddy and i thought to myself what does full swing go

i have no idea what's that?

Ear-to-ear swing, I have no clue.

Just got to play more.

Yeah, we don't have.

Well, actually, we have had.

Yeah,

it's been pretty.

The way you played, you should play more.

Yeah, and you should play with a caddy every time.

Yeah, Steve was a dog.

That was my first time ever playing with a caddy.

That was awesome.

I love that experience.

Steve was great.

Steve was a caddy there.

Are we supposed to say the name of the place?

I think you can.

Yeah, you definitely could.

Okay, so we played some places in Ospos.

Nah, this isn't that.

That's just one place.

That's the idea.

It was the nicest golf course I've ever played in my life.

I should probably say it.

Riviera.

We played at Riviera over there in, I think,

Los Angeles somewhere.

Yeah.

I have no idea where we were.

All I know is everywhere is a two-hour drive.

San Domanco.

I think it was.

I think I put it in the GPS.

It's in the Palisades area.

Okay.

Yes.

Beautiful course.

Yes.

Very, very, very, very nice course.

Very nice course.

Perfect weather, I assume.

Perfect weather.

Great sun.

I mean, it was a perfect day, to be honest.

A little wind, transfusions.

It wasn't busy.

Yeah, it was very nice, dude.

It was very nice.

The dogs.

and then you're watching ari gold

play golf

oh yeah okay he's playing yeah yeah that's that's a big one oh is he i i would assume he's very good very good so good i think par at that course yeah really

now const probably just never in trouble probably never hits any bad shots i'm guessing just always his driver he has this like really

patient swing is what i'll call it just like up High and then boom right through 285 right there.

Yeah, perfect draw with bang.

Okay.

285.

Yeah, not a big book.

Mayor Tempo Town.

At all.

Yeah.

Tempo is his thing.

I think that would kind of be it.

Yes.

And then he gets his iron in his hands.

It's like, can't have touch this thing.

And then he's

two up in it.

And he's birdie putting basically every hole.

Yes.

And it's just two putt.

It's unbelievable.

Because early wanted to talk shit.

He wanted to talk shit to me.

He said I didn't know how to put a ball in a T because there's a breeze that knocked it off.

So then I put the ball back on the T.

He goes, you want to teach you how to put a ball in a fucking T?

I go, I know how to put a ball in in a t and then i

nuked one great time to nuke one yep that was on the first t there so that that that held him off for a moment you know that held him off then he started teaching me how to putt but we wanted to talk to him i wanted to talk to him

that's all i went out there for it's like i would like to talk couldn't motherfucker never he had two bad shots like a par three he like pulled one into the sand and then put it to like four feet.

Good up.

Yeah, it was unbelievable.

Couldn't even see him.

I don't think his little fucking head was, couldn't even see him out there.

Ball comes out.

He was unbelievable.

He was unbelievable.

And I thought about it while

he does all these meetings, I assume, out there.

Oh, yeah.

And he just, because he doesn't really talk shit.

He doesn't really talk shit about how he is at golf.

He just kind of goes about his stuff.

That's nice.

Just keeps it moving.

Yeah, exactly.

And then all of a sudden, you look at it like, what are you?

I'm one under through six.

Like, actually, dude, this guy isn't even like no mulligans.

Just fucking here we go.

Stress-free.

Yeah, casual.

On the phone.

He's doing Ari Gold shit.

places like that they sell dogs at the turn it was so good yeah we did get some dogs we did do you see foxy's dog i ate it the exact same way yeah yeah i don't know why there's some big anti-ketchup narrative going on from pittsburgh pennsylvania the home of hines sure the most delightful

and delicious

thing 57 flavors on earth ingredients put it on everything i heard somebody say 57.

I love it.

57 different somethings.

Condiments.

Natural things.

Condiments is ketchup.

I heard somebody say, I love ketchup.

I put it on everything.

Eggs,

put it on chicken, put it on sandwiches, yada, yada.

And then the person said, I would never put it on my hot tub, though.

Ever.

And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Why would you not?

Why do they do that?

Yeah, what is it?

I don't understand why that's such a big deal.

Why is that such a big deal?

People that are foodies claim like, oh, ketchup.

Oh, you're so basic, you're a loser.

That's what it is.

How many, how many views on your tweet?

I think it was like half a million.

I grew up as the strictly ketchup, like you guys did, but then once I tried the ketchup and mustard,

I assume that's why, because it is better with both.

Well, you could do one, yeah, but I don't do ketchup.

But I did see the outrage strictly about the ketchup, which was just so Connor just put Foxy into

the fire.

Yeah.

Puts ketchup only on hot dog thoughts, and then a beautiful

photo of our H ⁇ M model right there.

Just, did you know what was happening with this picture?

I had no clue what he was doing.

I actually just took this for us because we were having a conversation, and then as soon as I looked at the photo,

I was like, I got it.

The world's got to say.

I'm not lying.

I just legit turned around, and then he's like, hold the hot dog up.

Connor immediately knew his head and goes, it's going platinum.

That is what he thinks.

So I'd say the number one takeaway that everyone was saying is that it's like what five-year-olds do.

And like, I grew up my entire life.

I thought the most American thing you could do is put ketchup on a hot dog.

I agree.

This was, I learned all of this from this tweet.

There were so many people calling me a five-year-old.

It's got to be Chicago people, right?

That's it.

Just hating against Pittsburgh?

Is that why you guys want your own thing?

Like, we got the hot dog.

And then people from Pittsburgh are like, we make it much better.

And Chicago's like, no, no.

I think the propaganda goes more is we just put mustard and relish.

We have a Chicago dog.

We don't really call out people for having ketchup.

I think it was a lot of Chicago people probably, if I had to guess, calling out far.

For the most part.

With that being said, shout out to Chicago people.

I got no problem with Chicago people.

But I do think

just having an argument that something that makes everything better isn't good on a hot dog just doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm from Pittsburgh, though.

You're an asshole.

You put ketchup on your eggs, though.

That's what I discussed.

See, I don't think

that's what I'm saying.

Ketchup is unbelievable.

Ketchup doesn't belong.

Are you serious?

That's so, that is terrible.

Dude, you order six scrambled eggs with the cheese inside the scrambled.

Now, american if available but some places you go to they're not gonna have american cheese which i don't love yes so cheddar is automatically the alternative and he says cheddar okay you go do you have american it's america and they say no we only have cheddar you go that'll do i guess

and then they put the cheddar in there okay then that thing comes out and you just go ahead and

you put a big blob of ketchup right there on the side of it and you dip you dip which is gross

i'm a believer ketchup doesn't belong on breakfast food but or buy like homestyle potatoes?

No.

Hash browns?

Okay, you don't do ketchup on hash browns?

And I love ketchup.

You're telling me McDonald's hash brown comes in in that little bag.

That thing is so good by itself, it doesn't need anything else.

It is.

Agreed.

You can eat it roll if you'd like.

I'm sure I would love it with ketchup, but I've just always had a rule.

It doesn't belong at the breakfast table.

Oh, see, I'd like to wake my day up with hots.

I will put ketchup.

I get that.

And I respect it.

Hot sauce.

Do you do hot sauce on eggs?

Oh, yeah.

No.

For sure.

I do not.

Hot sauce on eggs with ketchup.

Ketchat sauce on everything that's available, including the the dino nugs that my daughter loves.

If you've got some good eggs, they don't need anything.

It's like a good steak.

Like, you don't put, well, you know, A1 sauce.

That's a good one.

No, you could, though.

It's a different.

That's your favorite.

If you're Kirk Hergry.

You're going to have to ketch up on steak.

Yeah, Kirk Herbert will certainly, certainly.

Excuse me, do you got the.

Well, he has to, though, because he...

orders his steaks medium well if i remember correctly yeah because him and the dogs are eating the same

eats it with applesauce yeah well right no yeah it is well done excuse me well well yeah hi me Peter, Theo, Mitch.

We need steak.

We'll all take.

Can we get some A12?

And also, don't tell the chef, a little ketchup.

I'll order fries if I have to.

You're going to fries, ketchup?

Of course, yeah.

Oh, okay.

Of course.

On the side, I'm the same way.

What about nugs?

What about nugs?

You dip in nugs and ketchup, I hope you don't.

Kecha sauce.

Oh, the chat sauce.

Kechat sauce.

My barracks.

Franks.

You put a circle of Heinz.

Okay?

Circle of Heinz.

Good ketchup, really.

Franks, in the middle of that.

Dump it.

Fill up the volcano.

Okay.

Then we

Heinz on top of it.

Then you go ahead and take a little fork, spoon, whatever.

Starting it.

We whip that thing.

Now you got kachat sauce.

Welcome to heaven, brother.

Now you got those dino-nugs going

right down in there.

And all of a sudden it's the greatest.

That is, I sent an email to Heinz.

I think I was in high school.

You'd have to ask my dad what year it was.

He found the email for me, told him I got an idea.

I got an idea.

You guys are good.

Not great.

We can make you great.

Kachat sauce.

Sent it.

And then, like, two years, three years later, they had a fucking full line of, we got green ketchup.

We got purple ketchup.

We got hot sauce ketchup.

We got all this stuff.

It's like, of course, they thought of it way ahead of me.

I wasn't the first person to ever think of that.

But what I'm saying is, I felt like fucking Bobby Foy whenever I started that.

It still holds up.

Still holds up.

Still, okay.

You should try it.

I'll try it.

Sure.

They're mayo and ketchup also.

Oh, fancy sauce.

Oh, my God.

Disgusting.

What?

Yeah, it's gross.

Oh, he doesn't like what it is.

Give it to Kabolu.

Shut up, Hawk.

I'm not the target audience.

I get it, so I'm not jumping in, but yeah.

Yeah, you don't eat anything, so I don't need to hear from you.

No, I do.

I just, I like plain stuff.

I like ketchup on hot dogs for sure.

Hot dog ketchup only.

Nugs, I'm definitely dipping them in ketchup, but eggs, no.

Eggs straight up.

Okay.

Well, that's kind of, I mean, that's tough to argue with.

Do you use hot sauce for anything?

I do more now.

The older I get, I would say.

Wingy?

I'm into hot sauce.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, do you do plain?

No, you do plain wings, don't you?

No, yeah, I'll get, I mean, I'll get, you know, no, I get hot sauce on the bottom.

Dry rub, you do dry rub, you say, give me a little bit of that local dry.

I'll eat them if they're, if they're there, those are good, but no, I want them, you know, hot, medium to hot.

Well, we had some little lemon pepper fresh out of wing stop on the flight.

Oh,

that was very good.

Dry rub, too, right?

Pay apples.

I think that one was just plain.

Plain.

Just plain.

Those are so good.

They were very good, actually.

I'm a a Franks guy over all the other hot sauces.

Same.

Tabasco, a little bit too watery.

I guess every place has their own hot sauce.

Give me the Franks.

Give me the Franks until I die.

Dick always steals the tacholas or whatever they're called.

Not anymore.

Who is it?

Cholula.

Cholula.

That was started in like a guy's basement, I think, if I do recall.

The Mexican one?

That's good.

All the great ones are.

He's good at it.

Yeah, it was great.

That's a good basement, I guess, for brewing that stuff.

That had a good run, I think.

Cholula had a really good run.

That was during Fireball Whiskey run, too.

Yeah.

Probably, if I think.

Yep.

If I'm recalling at Sunday time, I think I met.

Mr.

Chalulu.

And Fireball.

Mr.

Fireball.

Mr.

Ball.

They were together.

I think so.

If my memory serves me.

You might be the same person.

I think so.

Was it Chalulu whiskey?

I'm not 100% sure.

Anyways, ketchup deserves and belongs on a goddamn hot dog.

Thank you.

Do you like relish, Pat?

Do you like relish on a hot dog?

I'll do it.

What's that?

I'm not a relish guy at all.

You're into relish or you're not.

No, I'm not into relish.

I hate relish.

Yeah, but I would do it if said.

Okay.

You gotta remember, I went to Plum Community Days,

where it was a hot dog guy who was an artist.

This guy was an artist.

I helped him set up his fucking rig every single year.

No questions asked.

He was great.

Tip, tip, tip, tip.

What do you say Jones do?

He goes, what about a hamburger, though?

He puts ketchup on a hamburger, right?

Yeah.

Or cheeseburger.

I hope you put ketchup on a cheeseburger.

Ketchup mustard.

Yeah.

Yes.

He just said he puts ketchup on everything.

What do you mean?

Do you even have burgers anymore?

You just have little thin steaks with cheese on top of it.

That's what you have.

You don't even have a burger anymore.

Oh, no.

no, I love a cheeseburger, but I put in ketchup on it, no question.

Are you putting that in a wrap?

Are you putting in a lettuce wrap?

What are you doing?

I'll either eat it on a bun or I'll get like four hamburgers and just put ketchup all over all of them and eat them with a fork.

Oh, like a meatloaf.

Yeah, it is like a kitchen.

Yeah, meatloaf.

I'm not touching meatloaf.

That's disgusting.

Well, ketchup on meatloaf, by the way.

That's a whole nother thing.

That's actually one of the main ingredients of meatloaf.

You said you're not touching meatloaf?

Meatloaf, I will not touch.

And don't worry, I'm sure you're going to tell me, oh, my mom or my aunts is the best ever.

Well, congrats.

I don't want it.

My mom, my mom didn't start cooking until recently.

Is it meatloaf?

It's a cheeseburger in the shape of a loaf.

It's literally what it is.

It's like ketchup.

No, it's a bunch of weird, nasty stuff in there.

It's just the confusion, you mean?

Nasty.

Yeah.

Yeah, never been a meatloaf guy.

Yeah.

If it's cooked right, it's good.

It's got to be cooked right.

I've only had a lithium gums.

Well said.

Everyone takes so much pride in their own meatloaf.

No, you've got to try my meatloaf.

Well, I don't.

People tell me about what you want me to do.

If it's cooked right, it's good.

Turds cooked right don't taste good.

Meatloaf is not a turd, Bub.

Similar.

It might as well be.

It's all your favorite things.

How about this, AJ?

Go ahead, please.

Ground beef, egg, onion, milk, and seasonings.

Like salt pepper.

You got milk in there?

Okay, I'm out now.

I didn't know milk was in there.

Come me out on meatloaf.

I didn't know I'd go in there.

Smother it and gravy.

I just smother it in ketchup every time.

Don't like milk?

Tastes so good.

Love ketchup.

I just thought of milk and meat.

I don't want to do it.

Sure.

Sloppy Joe's.

I like Bobby Joe.

Sloppy toast.

Love

Joe's.

Slow, sloppy.

Love sloppy joke.

You know, I watched a guy order a bucket of mashed potatoes for dinner at a like a five-star steakhouse the other night.

Friday night.

Are they loaded?

Just, nope, just

a bucket of potatoes.

That's it.

Nothing else.

Potatoes.

Serving spoon as his utensil.

That's real.

This is really nice.

It was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my entire life.

Thought the waiter forgot something, held up eating.

Then I watched person take serving spoon and fucking dive right into that thing and start mixing it it up.

Is that your meal?

I'd have a beer with that guy.

This is my meal.

There any chives over there or anything?

Had sour cream.

Ask somebody else to take it off.

Do you want to know?

No, sure.

Had somebody else take it off.

Great move.

Great move.

You want some sour cream?

How much sour cream?

It was

so much.

It was like one scoop, pretty much.

It was a bucket.

So you got to have it in proportion.

So it was a fucking scoop of sour cream on top of that.

He wants it.

Why don't you take some?

Hand it over.

Take off the sour cream.

Bring it back.

serving spoon to mouth.

This is your meal?

Don't you worry about my food, pet.

Well, I am a little bit.

Is the whole table eating from this or just you?

This is my meal.

Stop talking about my food.

You know, that man was John Halliburton.

That was Tyrese.

That was Tyrese Halliburton's the head.

He is the most electrifying human I have ever encountered.

I've never got a chance to hang out with him.

I got to hang out with him at the WNBA contest night.

Hour, 15-minute show, did not expect that.

So we still had some time.

We go get dinner across the street at Prime.

Shout to Prime, setting us up in this like back room area.

More so,

set up Ty Reese, for sure, especially for him to roll in there, but that's kind of his place.

And I sat right next to John Halliburton, and I laughed for two hours straight.

I mean, yeah, he could definitely,

here's me and him.

He is the man.

I cannot.

They need to apologize to this man.

Now.

They need, instead of kicking him out, you know, they have me on the microphone some of these games.

The NBA should have him on a microphone full-time whole game.

He should be mic'd up for every single ESPN.

This guy's fucking unbelievable.

That's his, can we zoom in on that photo?

That's just a tub of mashed potatoes.

Nothing else.

That's his meal.

That's a big old spoon.

Yeah, you can see that's a serving spoon.

A serving spoon.

Yeah.

So I asked the waiter, I go, just, can you clarify something?

Why did you put a serving spoon?

He goes, don't talk.

Stop asking this man, this guy, John, as I'm doing this.

Why'd you give him a serving spoon?

Why'd you do that?

And he goes, well, I thought obviously it was for the whole table.

Of course, you did.

Everybody thought that.

Even the guy that was bringing food, he said, Don't you worry about what I'm, I'm not worried about what you're eating.

I'm like, I'm eating chicken parmesan.

This is standard meat.

He is, this guy is the greatest.

I'm so thankful I got to sit next to him.

Weapon, dude.

Weapon.

Got a chance to chat more about the entire situation that happened.

Of course.

Obviously, he wasn't thrilled about how it all went.

Didn't like, you know, doesn't love that.

That's the attention towards Cyrese.

But he does have a side, you know, definitely has his side of things on

everything.

i love him they need him they need john next year to maybe dress for the basement that's not a bad idea maybe at least at least warm up like romo did that one day and do that hit a couple of these yeah doesn't swear doesn't drink doesn't smoke never has none of it has the confidence of a uh i don't know 25-year-old prize fighter okay

he ran up with

her he did not he if he if he was to explain

the story, he didn't even know.

He was just in his zone.

You know, he was in his zone.

Giannis happened to be there.

Then there was a whole situation.

You know, everybody.

He's the man.

Tyrese will be in here tomorrow.

Hopefully, John will stop.

Pop for the tables.

Please.

Mr.

Halliburton, if you're coming by, we will have a fucking bathtub of mashed potatoes.

Leave that man alone, Pat.

John told me about a couple things.

Yeah.

And he's right.

He is right.

I said, John, I'm a murder this guy.

This guy deserves to get murdered.

Leave that man alone, Pat.

Thank you, John.

I needed to hear that actually.

Well said.

That is very, very good.

I am proud of me.

Obviously, I tweeted it publicly because I just wanted it to be out there.

Like, hey, there was another war that was

averted.

Yeah.

Was that a word?

Yeah.

So I just want to let people know.

Hey, this is growth.

If it would have been a war.

Evolving.

Yeah.

There would have been people on his.

I mean, it's just, you're just more of a.

I'm dropping into a.

It's kind of more of like a public execution, though.

Bug windshield thing.

The boys did see everything I was going to say about who I was going to say.

And it was some of my finer work.

Not my greatest.

I have some emails that are better.

But these, these,

you know,

it's pretty good.

It's pretty good.

Thank you.

I felt pretty good about it.

Yeah.

I had time.

I had time.

Abdul was sleeping.

I was home alone.

Wife was out of town.

Just kind of hanging there.

It was from

some time ago.

And I was like, I didn't know this happened.

Sending in the group.

What's this?

What is this?

What is this all about?

Get some intel?

Is that right?

Let me go ahead and see if this is who I fucking think it is.

Yup, that guy's messaged me a lot.

Asking for a lot.

It can't be that guy.

Let me go back.

Same guy.

Sure is.

Interesting.

Let me learn about this guy.

He doesn't think I have time.

45 minutes deep dive into this guy's life.

This guy has no idea how much I know about him.

Can't wait to run into him.

And it's like,

yeah, all right.

You said your piece.

Now,

I believe I should probably stick up for myself.

Yeah.

Had an X version.

Had an Instagram stories version.

Had an Instagram post version.

Okay?

Really put some time into this.

Threads?

I don't do the threads.

It's automatic.

600 million posts.

Yeah, I was going to say everybody is.

Yeah, people are saying threads.

I saw a post saying threads has more active users than X.

Yeah, 2 billion.

Wow.

Boom.

Trillion, actually.

Excuse me.

That doesn't feel real.

Does it?

I saw Dana holding a microphone that said threads.

That might have been part of his deal with Zuck.

So maybe Threads is becoming.

Didn't have a threads.

Was going to make a TikTok.

Was going to record a video.

Had a talk, kind of piece it together.

And I didn't.

I said, you know what?

Today's not the day.

Send them all to drafts.

Boom.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

And I put my phone down.

said people are allowed to feel the way they feel.

Then I walked a little bit further.

I said, I'm allowed to feel hell.

I fucking want to.

I don't know.

No, no, no, no.

It's a good summer.

We're having a blast.

Boom.

Shout out to the MLB.

Blast.

Shout out.

Shout out to the Espies.

That was a good time.

Yeah.

Did we have more fun than anybody else at the Espys?

Yeah, certainly.

Yes, great, great time.

But

in Atlanta, MLB, like my favorite part, and I forgot about this, was Ty, you know, not forgetting about the kids.

Yeah.

Like, you know, heading to the field, you know,

at point back, coming back, signing all the crafts for, you know, who knows how long.

I mean, good on you, man.

First all-star, congratulations.

Well, you know, we're just trying to grow it for the next generation.

You know what I mean?

Who am I to be?

You know, I was obviously trying to take everything in myself, my first all-star experience, but I thought, how special, you know, for one of these kids, you know, who's

been waiting all day.

That video is so far back in my library.

I'm trying to scroll back and find it right now.

Be those kids.

So much sense.

that was me and I said you know what I ain't gonna I ain't gonna leave these kids standing here I'm walking behind Ty as he's about to make his way onto the field for the first time dressed in his full regalia and I just wanted to get him jogging on the field because I knew he was probably gonna skip up over top of the the chalk and everything and instead what I caught was just absolute magic.

True moment in time.

True MLB magic.

I just texted it to you, Zito, so you can pull this up.

Kids will never forget it.

Ever.

You know, they talk about, a lot of people say, like, I remember Mickey Mantle stopped and said, hello, Ken Griffey Jr.

stopped and inspired me to become a professional athlete and treat people the right way.

Well, Ty,

you're kind of becoming that guy maybe for an entire legion of baseball fans with how you acted as an MLB All-Star.

And I know that there was some blowback by the baseball purists for us.

Sure.

I think this video right here will kind of put it all at ease.

We're trying to get back to the game.

How about you, kid?

Come on, get over.

Come here, I'll start the ball, I guess.

Mr.

Schmidt, Mr.

Schmidt.

Yeah.

Mr.

Schmidt, go Yankees.

Mr.

Schmidt.

That's all they kept saying.

Mr.

Schmidt.

A lot of that.

I saw one of those things here that you pay

$8,000 for a sign-tie.

So I tell you what, a couple of those, when I was signing them, I saw some of the other signatures on there.

I was like, God damn.

Show me.

I really fucking shouldn't.

But hey, guess what?

I'm going to play the part.

They think I'm an all-star.

I'm going to do it.

Hey, now.

Yeah, exactly.

All-star.

Sign the baseball.

Yep.

Go play.

Which we did, did, didn't we?

We did.

Then they saw us out on the field.

Those kids.

What?

Yeah, what are these guys doing?

No, they wouldn't have asked if they didn't want it.

Yeah.

They didn't know who he was.

We were coming out right from the clubhouse.

Yeah.

I mean, it was a setup for those kids.

They had no hope.

No, without a doubt.

You had the hat on, the whole thing.

Yep.

They might have thought maybe you were a man in the house.

AO Clubhouse was the music still playing in there.

Did the AO win or lose?

They lost.

They lost the swing.

Oh, yeah, because we talked we need the swing off.

Yeah.

Okay, I read

my take.

If it goes more than one extra inning, swing off.

Then swing off.

I like that.

Have a 10th inning of baseball.

Gives the Piers what they want.

Then let's go to the swing off.

And I think we only do two.

I don't think we do three guys.

I think it's two guys.

One of them hits three times.

One of them hits two times.

Best of five.

Well, not one guy.

I like one swing.

I think that was

because

both guys you would assume.

Could hit.

Could hit or both most likely miss.

So then it's like, okay, we we're need to.

on yeah we know we're making it same guy like olympics with tj yoshi bingo yeah like it's swing for swing or do you go you have to go to a next batter you have to line up who the batter is like soccer no just one regular just one batter regular season hockey is how one one swing three guys

one swing per guy that's what you think three guys i think one guy one swing let's fucking yeah but then it's over before it even and you run into the potential of it being so anticlimactic if you do that yeah it could be over so quick.

But, I mean.

We want a best of the three, best of five.

Yeah.

Don't you think?

I suppose.

Personally, I think no matter what, if they make the change, they'll do like just exactly what the NHL does, which is once it gets to the playoffs, the most meaningful stuff, they'll get rid of it.

Yeah.

And they'll just do extras no matter what.

Oh, yeah.

That's definitely not doing that in the playoffs.

World Series.

Yeah.

Game seven.

Swing off.

Shohei versus Judge.

That'd be sick, but that is never going to happen.

Well, that'd be the astras.

The first time ever.

Yeah, you're right.

champ.

I wouldn't want that in the playoffs.

In the playoffs.

I think the one will be the climate.

I think they're going to be a good players in the playoffs.

I mean, they don't care about the climactic.

It would be so sick, though, to watch best of three.

We would all watch.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

For sure.

I think we would all watch.

Techs would come into the group and say, hey, so-and-so's in a swing-off right now.

Yeah, dong-off habit.

We would all see the highlight.

For sure.

We would watch.

We would talk about the clip the next day.

For sure.

A thousand percent.

The clip would be massive.

Just as somebody that's new to baseball, becoming a fan of baseball,

you guys are already making changes in the rules anyways.

I'm getting all the sauce games.

I'm going to get into it.

Like 13 innings?

Is that good?

Is that fun?

No.

No, I mean,

that is like, that's why they put guys on second base now to start extras because they don't want to.

It's already a gimmick.

Yeah, they don't want safe game too.

You guys are already doing gimmicks.

You guys put the fucking person on second base, Ghostrunner on second base.

Which sucks.

Okay.

So you're already doing gimmicks.

If we're going to do gimmicks, let's do fun gimmicks.

Here's a better one.

Boom, bang.

Powell.

Have one inning, extra inning.

Do your thing.

Do the baseball.

Good luck.

Hope somebody wins.

Go score.

But then, best of three, one swing per each, I think, is the right play.

I like it.

Maybe two, and it's whoa.

Dunks.

You sleep two hours a night.

I'm just saying, though, as like purists, I think if you said two innings, they'd take the bait on two.

If you go one, I think they'd still be pissed off.

Okay, four outs, one inning.

I like like that

i don't mind

that's a win okay four you guys already don't give me you got the ghost man on second off peer can't be pissed about four outs and winter no way we gave him more than that that's cool that is cool

uh how about pitcher has to throw alternate hand yeah other

or a pitcher is not allowed to throw any breaking balls yeah gotta be alternate

balls right down the fastball does the other person have to throw no no more strike zone you know what what?

Forget the pitcher.

Put it on a T.

Let him swing away.

Would guys hit dongs off T's?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a fair question.

Yeah.

The speed coming in.

I was going to.

I also was.

I thought he was going to say.

Dude, if you put a fucking ball on a T at home plate, Judge would hit it 9,000 feet.

Judge, but that's our guy.

Most guys.

He wears a size 15 fucking shoe.

Most guys would.

Okay.

Most guys would be able to take it out.

Yeah.

Very far.

I would assume so.

Yes.

Hitting a ball ball off a t these guys do so much t work so much t work

so that's a dumb question

yeah i mean certainly for a non-baseball person not a dumb question i assume i assume they needed

the velocity yeah

and then the bp they're still throwing they're not i do adults hit off a t

they do in practice all the time in the majors yeah do they oh yeah i didn't know big big deal i've never seen it we need to start doing that for next year yeah we need to start hitting on the goddamn team we need to bring it we need to start throwing some fucking.

Yeah, see if they can do it.

See if they can do it.

All right, boys.

Who can do it?

Right before the home run derby starts.

Boys,

take a second to you.

See if you can hit a dong off of this goddamn T the T Derby.

Yeah, we're trying to find out.

Those dudes were sweet over there.

Yeah.

Yankees have a game tonight?

Yes.

What's up, Yankees?

Big one.

In Toronto.

Good to see you, dudes.

Well, who knows?

Because they're in Toronto, so they might be watching on SportsNet today and not Yankee Derby.

Oh, they watch on YouTube.

Right, right.

I I believe.

So you can catch the naughty language.

Show plays on TSN in Canada.

Oh, does it?

Does it?

Sports network, yeah.

I didn't know that.

I believe ESPN owns them.

They do not.

No.

Who owns the

Rogers?

Who gave permission?

Hold on.

I have a question.

Still to this day right now?

I'm pretty sure a lot of people watch on TSN back home.

Can't wait to meet you people at TSN.

Well, no wonder the Canada stuff got so loud after.

They know I exist up there.

Golly.

Shoved down their throats the next day.

Oh, great.

We got to listen to the fucking asshole.

Hey, buddy, the fucking American asshole is on TV again.

Jesus Christ.

You think there was a chance old retired Trudeau was watching our show the next day?

I gotta say so.

Now he's watching other stuff.

Well, now he's retired.

Speaking of retired, Washington football team name was retired.

Will the Commanders be just another...

Oh, you remember when?

Your president, AJ,

made a statement about the Washington whatever's.

How do you feel?

How do you feel about it?

I mean, this is, I don't know, have we ever seen a president before like dip his toe into the NFL waters on what a team should be named?

Yes.

And the reason why we know that is because there is a pre-presidential Donald Trump tweet saying, shouldn't do that.

Presidents shouldn't be doing that.

Because

President Obama at the time was, I believe, talking about the name of the Washington football team.

So,

yeah, there has been a a little bit of dancing, I guess.

And this is a wild thing, especially if the stadium stuff gets held up.

You know, and obviously, the art of the deal, President Trump is a deal maker.

That's kind of his entire thing.

Everybody's saying, well, he got a rich dad.

It's like, okay, a lot of people have rich dads.

You're fired.

A lot of people have rich dads.

He's been able to make deals, I think, throughout his entire life.

It's kind of his thing.

Now, do all of them

withstand or whatever it is?

I don't know.

I guess

I think not.

I think there's some deals deals that happen then don't happen.

And then I think that causes a lot of problems.

I think some people get real happy.

Some people get real mad.

And then they just kind of go like this.

And that's politics.

Yeah.

I think.

That's how it works.

But I think he can probably withhold fund.

I don't know.

I don't know all the ins and outs of being a president.

He won't.

All right.

Debut as you want.

Politics, Jews.

Just yapping.

Plus, Pat.

I think a president.

That's on Truth social.

Truth.

Are you going there?

I do know.

I have an account over there.

That's where you sent me the link from.

You're probably battling with threads, I would assume.

Well, 600 million active users on threads.

You know, Facebook's become interesting because I'll post on Instagram or we'll post on Instagram and post on my Facebook that I don't have a login for over there.

And then my mom will tell me she saw me on Facebook and I'm like,

what did you see, mama?

She's like, your post is on Facebook.

And I'm like, oh fuck, it is over there.

Threads too.

Really?

I get only posts.

Only posts.

Only posts.

Only posts go to threads.

Not reels.

Reels go to Facebook.

Yeah.

What?

And my mom saw something we posted on Instagram on Facebook.

And I'm like, mom, I think somebody's ripping my shit.

You know,

you should continue to tell me about that.

She goes, is this your account?

I haven't been in there in years.

Oh, my God.

Holy fuck.

Zuck figured out my password and connected us.

How's that whole thing go?

So then you got to go into what email I had.

That goes back to my West Virginia email, I think.

It's like, possible.

Things have been deactivated for 15 years.

Oh, my God.

What alternate email could it have been?

It's crazy.

And then at the time, what was my favorite drink?

Pastor.

What was I?

Well, at the time, that might have been a rum and coke, though.

Incredible Hulk.

I'll tell you what, that one really puts some people to bet.

Hypnotic in Hennessy, right?

Oh, yeah.

I'll take the Incredible Hulk.

Are you sure?

Always followed up there.

Yeah, I will.

Got to make that thing green thing.

The color of the hypnotic.

How do they do that?

Interesting color.

Bright

poise.

Damn, it's really bright.

Like, really bright.

Looks so cool.

Some sort of ooze.

What is that up here?

Probably is some sort of ooze.

What is that nectar up there that is glowing up there?

Well, we can actually put this together with Hennessy and really fuck up your whole night.

Done.

Do it.

Give me that one.

What was the other one?

The four shots?

The four horsemen.

The four horsemen.

Yeah.

That was terrible.

Jack Jose.

That's

Jim and

enemy territory.

Tony Walker.

You know, you walked in there.

Somebody goes, hey, Pat, good to see you.

Let me buy you some stuff.

Send you down there.

It's like, oh, this place hates me.

Got it.

You guys try to make me?

I went to a place that had a wheel.

You just spun it.

That was one of the options.

And if it happened, it just happened.

Yeah, but there were some other good options on there.

There was a couple good ones.

There's a couple real bad ones.

Those days were crazy.

This generation has no idea what it used to be like.

You're right.

The cameras on the phones, I think, change everything.

Everybody's kind of a little bit more docile.

Used to be fucking wild world out there.

They do other ridiculous.

Still is a wild world.

It's not good twice.

You can get punched in the face, shot all that stuff.

I'm not saying you can't, but I'm just talking about like going out.

That just changed immediately.

Yeah, but they do other fucking, like the Galaxy Gas, all that shit.

Like, they have a whole...

What's that, Nitris?

Yeah, I don't even know what it is.

It's like computer duster or some shit, isn't it?

It's insanely funny.

It's their form of nitrous?

I think so.

Yeah, we had that, too.

Yeah, we had that.

It's fine.

That's like a 30-second thing you should not be killing brain cells with.

Yeah, you guys had it, but you didn't have a phone that added like the, oh, do the most ever and we'll get it on camera and post it it'll be cool

i was trying every time to break every record i don't know you've seen steve

clinking around on the what's that you ever see the video steve-o clinking around yeah that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying though like like with the steve-o era you're going you're buying a specific camera video recorder now it's more so like hey everyone's got one so if you think you can do something absurd let's film it and see it you can make a business out of it yeah and you can get a good business out you can become a millionaire like

yeah i don't know if i would have survived Yeah, and you can die.

Yeah, that's the part I think would have got me.

Because those incredible Hulks.

I mean,

can you chug four of these?

Yeah.

Can you chug four of these in a minute or whatever?

It's like, oh, we're going to try.

We're going to try this a target.

Good nights.

Yeah.

And terrible mornings.

Yeah.

It was like Strong Islands.

We used to get pictures of Strong Island.

Oh, yeah.

Love them.

There's a lot that goes into those.

You feel really good the next day after you chug those.

Yeah.

And why do they taste so good?

They're always like, this one's got 10 shots in it.

Hold on, wait, where?

What's the strong issue?

I think it's because we were eating.

I don't know.

I didn't know.

Just more booze.

Long island, just more booze.

They got like eight, nine shots in this.

Oh, yeah.

Alleged.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You have different alcohols.

Yeah, it's mixing everything.

Yeah.

I don't know the red taste.

When's the last time you heard someone order a long island?

Yeah, I'll give me a long island.

I had one two weeks ago.

They do not taste the same.

I feel like that was just a young.

Is it top shelf?

We're at the age now.

You need a top shelf.

I don't know.

It was just on the menu.

Do they have top shelf Long Island?

Yep.

Never Never been.

Yeah, you got Sveka in them.

The only places, yeah, I was about to say, the only places I've ever been, they're making these Long Islands are.

Yeah, exactly.

You did with the guts.

Yeah, yeah.

What else we got back there?

Yeah, fuck.

Well,

no, put that back.

Yep.

Here you go.

You won't taste it.

It's fucking in the middle of there.

Here you go.

Thank you.

That'll be 10 bucks.

What the fuck did I pay for it?

Everything.

Hold all the shit out.

What do you think of this?

You're going to love it.

Here's Mario Shot Wheel down here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Referring to.

You can get a black and gold shot.

You can get a karma cause you'll get you.

A Vegas bomb will get you going.

White Gummy Bear.

Hey, how you doing?

Three wise men.

Good night.

And puke.

That's the one I hope.

There's a Jaeger.

There's an O-bomb.

Love the O-bombs.

The O bombs get you going.

Tequila, green tea, pineapple, royal flush.

Lemon head.

Is that what that is?

Yeah.

That one tastes like shit.

Mm-hmm.

I was so.

Yep.

Very sweet.

An O-bomb?

Just tequila.

O-Bomb is just Aquila.

No, there's the

Two o'clock.

You're just hoping for a green tea?

That's the easy way.

Well, it depends on who you are.

Back in the day, we were definitely hoping for Vegas Balls.

If you're spitting this, you're not hoping for a green tea.

No.

Or a good time.

What's that?

Or a good time.

You are looking to end up under a dumpster

if you're ending up at this slot wheel.

Yeah, okay.

We did it every weekend.

First stop, yeah.

You get a free shot on this thing.

Yeah, that's awesome.

Days, crazy world back in the day.

Good times.

The eye is taped off.

Yeah, it's around.

This is incredible.

That wheel.

Me, Tone, Nick, we've had our hands on that wheel.

Let's talk about the throwback uniforms for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

My immediate thought upon seeing them is I didn't like them.

Then I think about like what throwback uniforms are, and I immediately go, that's not bad.

All they're trying to do is move some more jerseys and pay tribute to the past which I respect this one

interesting form of the bumblebee just kind of inverted the entire thing I would certainly like stripes up and down as opposed to flat I think that is good the pants color don't love it you make that black I think you got a cooler looking thing but hey I guess that wasn't what it was back in the day do do they feel obligated to make it not look as good as it could look does that make sense i i feel like they feel obligated to make it historically accurate uh so that the steel workers of that time um if they were to magically come back today they'd be like oh those those oh my god steelers steelers are back and so they look you can see they're historically accurate um i mean i think i like them better than the bumblebees would they black pants been a lot better yeah but i mean it's just just not what it's just not what they were yeah i understand i understand then in 1933 they didn't have the black pants on but we could say the steel ash yeah charms

make it it look worse.

What would you say?

The new style helmets really distort what the throwbacks look like, I think.

Yeah, like the new.

Get the old school helmets that weigh 400 pounds and put them in those guys for one game.

Yeah, for sure.

If we're going to do it historically accurately, we should do the same helmets.

We should do the same helmets as these.

I agree.

Callers.

I just saw the clip of.

We just posted it on Instagram.

It was from Radio Row.

Somebody was talking about the new helmet.

And

JJ Walt was like, I finally put it on my last year.

It's so nice, so comfortable.

I didn't want to take it off.

It's not heavy.

And AJ was sitting there,

you look stupid, don't you?

It was like, it was like, clearly, JJ was like attacking you and the entire thing.

It's like helmets have transformed a lot.

I mean, from what they used to look like to what they are now.

But I guess inside they feel good.

I guess it's like a fun, because remember, and I didn't grow up in the football world.

So forgive me.

Man, my ears putting that fucking thing on, especially without.

My ears are bruised.

My ears get bruised all the time.

Ears are always.

I forget if it was cold.

Could get cauliflower fucking ear from putting on a goddamn helmet.

And then let alone I have a big head.

I have a large head.

So they're like, well, we'll give you a bigger helmet.

And it's like, I don't, I still gonna have to fucking bend that thing out because it's, you're kind of, it has to be tight, right?

You know what you're saying?

So you bend that down.

Then the side of your head is just getting compressed.

Let alone if this thing stays down.

Yeah, if you got your ear just like stays down, it's a whole thing.

The helmet.

I'm happy they've made it better.

Get pumped up.

Middle air.

Tell the pads.

Miss it.

I want a few pumps right now.

Strap it, yeah.

Strap that thing.

Too much, too much.

Take a little bit out.

There's a couple helmets behind you right now if you want to run into a wall.

Nah, those are too new, too fancy.

Too cost.

No, no, no.

They want it.

How about that one?

Steelers.

That's...

Steelers helmet.

Yeah, go do it, dude.

You can put on Maverick helmet, too, if you want.

Too nice.

That is.

Old school.

That is beautiful.

Shut.

Game worn.

So if they're going to do the gimmick helmets, why don't they do gimmick pants?

I'm with you.

Are you going to buy that jersey?

No.

Which player would you buy the jersey of this year?

TJ Watt.

Okay.

I don't have a T jersey.

He's now a one helmet.

You were real excited.

TJ Watt was a Pittsburgh Steelers.

He's now a one-helm.

I do this a lot.

I do this all the time where, you know, I put out both sides.

I put out some mixed feelings.

Then once it finally happens, you get your true soul, your true heart, your true north.

Who else do you think you did that for?

Quarterback as well?

Yep, for sure.

For Aaron, for sure.

For the last three years.

How about DK Metcalf?

Did you do that for DK?

How about Johnny Smith?

Did you do that for Johnny Smith?

No.

You didn't?

Hmm.

Because I didn't even know it was an option.

When the news of the original news, Johnny came out that it was potentially trading for him, I said that's bullshit.

That's not going to happen.

And then Khan gets a job.

Yeah, and then it happened.

It was crazy.

Legend.

Like, I never thought DK was an option ever.

So I never even had to do that.

Are you guys winning the Super Bowl this year?

I would be highly surprised if we did.

Debut, Pittsburgh Steelers go to an afc championship this year oh no

that's bullshit i mean you know aj pittsburgh steelers go to an afc championship this year i've been thinking about this lately like if their old line holds up i think they definitely have a chance that's the question

they definitely have a chance if

that was the same thing that's everybody that's everybody's team but i'm telling you steelers look around man they they got some studs jalen ramsey's on the squad now like they got a team i completely forgot about jalen ramsey over there

those those are

you think ravens bills yeah chiefs i mean chiefs i'm gonna start chiefs ravens bills penguins are way too high what i agree that's ridiculous they're talking about trey hendrickson a little bit thinks he's gonna get the deal done like brown came out and talked about it yeah i think he said that two months ago too

well

his family though came out and said some of these players need to be pretty happy with what they got yeah as far as the textans are that low shamar stewart needs a sign 90 he's not yeah

because they're not changing the contract.

That's what it feels like.

Cincinnati Bengals are not going to change.

He has taken a stand on this

clause about guarantees and voided years and everything like that.

He said that we learned that it wasn't in the Bengals deal last year, but it is in 16 different teams, organizations, deals.

We would have assumed the Cincinnati Bengals would have been doing something to save themselves money if other teams were doing it already.

Certainly.

Right.

The only thing that we would have...

I think we all kind of assumed that was the case.

So I'm kind of torn on this, but I'm definitely at the case where I hope Shamar gets money, money, hope he gets all of his money, and I hope he gets back to work with the boys because he could be a difference maker in the NFL with how talented he is.

Yeah, but he needs, I mean, we all need reps coming in, but

he needs some bad.

So him not getting this or Trey Hendrickson done is crazy.

But speaking of contracts, guarantees, and all that, a lot of these second-round picks.

finally getting signed, fully guaranteed deals, which is great for them.

Before we get to that Mike Brown's quote about Shamar Stewart, if we get a player who does something unacceptable, guess what?

I don't want to pay him.

I really really don't.

If you see him in jail, I don't think I have to pay him.

Obviously, injuries, jail, I guess, is certainly things that you could void contracts for.

Hopefully they get the deal done.

Mike Brown, ever transparent.

Now, back to what you were talking about, about the second round deals finally getting done.

Kind of an abnormal year for the CBA and for these players in the second round.

Yeah, people still showing up.

Most rookies have already had to show up for camp.

So all these guys getting paid, we had Carson, I think he was the first one to get paid with being the first pick in the second round.

But I mean, I love this.

You know, they took somewhat of a stand.

It didn't take too long.

We're right on training camp.

And once these top, once these dominoes start to fall, you assume the rest of the guys will fall in line.

Obviously, we know Jutkins is dealing with some issues off the field, which will probably hold his up.

But most of these guys are either fully guaranteed or north of 90% guaranteed, which is awesome.

Yeah, so originally, last time we talked about this, Swessinger and Higgins were the only ones that were paid, and they were paid.

fully guaranteed money.

And the holdup was right there with number 35, Nick E.

Monworry from Seattle.

I think he was the next one.

And he said, oh, the two guys in front of me, they were fully guaranteed.

Why aren't I fully guaranteed?

So now at this point, picks 33 through 40 are all fully guaranteed.

Obviously, you talked about Judkins.

He is not done yet.

So they were all fully guaranteed, 33 to 40.

And then the next one, TJ Sanders out of Buffalo, he was like 95% fully guaranteed.

And as you go down the list, I mean, most of these are north of 80% fully guaranteed.

So that was kind of the holdup.

But once like, once though once you got the shuck who was the quarterback and they said he has leverage because he is a quarterback to get the fully guaranteed.

He might be our starter.

Yes.

But once that first domino fell at 41, then it was like, okay, this is kind of how it's going to fall in as far as percentage of fully guaranteed.

I do appreciate the fact that Bean was like, yeah, we'll give you guarantees.

Not full.

I mean,

10.07 on 10.6.

Come on.

Come on.

I love it.

Play ball.

We're doing it.

It's a lot of guarantee.

We have $10 million.

And then you kind of go down throughout the rest of it.

Mason Taylor, obviously from the Taylor family, absolute beast over there with the New York Jets, $9.6 million of $10.4 fully guaranteed.

I like the angle.

I like what the boys tried to do.

I think it all worked out.

And now we're at Camp.

It was funny because, you know, soon as, like, as soon as that,

it was like a few days ago, that first second rounder that hadn't been signed got signed.

And then literally they, like, 20 of them signed within two days.

Yep.

Shout out to second rounders, AJ.

You wouldn't know anything about that, would you?

No, you would.

Are they doing anything outside of top five?

Who cares?

You think football ever gets to fully guaranteed deals like basketball and baseball?

Is Scott Boris coming over or no?

I don't think it happens, but yeah, I mean, that's probably part of the reason why football is great, though, because

every single day, and you know as well.

Like, I know we've talked about it.

Like, you need to have a healthy fear of your job.

Like, you really do.

Agreed.

I think.

I think, yeah, product can potentially dip if people get too comfortable and don't try to work for everything in the future if you have to earn it.

Now, granted, I am very much a pro player, guaranteed, get all the money you could possibly get.

But if we're talking strictly from the product standpoint, when people are chasing bags, that's when they're playing their absolute best ball.

The NFL knows that.

But I think taking care of the players is a very valuable, especially the guys.

You know, like the guys that your league are.

That's why when I went to that first Pro Bowl, it was out there in Arizona.

All the guys that make money for the NFL were there.

Okay, like Tom Brady opted out.

I think Aaron opted out.

But basically, JJ's there.

Luke Eekley's there.

Drew Drew Brees is there.

Patrick wasn't at that time, no.

But like, basically, everybody else that makes money for the NFL was there.

And they didn't even like rent out the entire hotel.

And I was like, what the fuck are we doing, man?

Like,

you got to at least take care of these people, the people that take care of and move the needle for your entire league.

So I think, like, older players getting fully guaranteed deals, if they've already proven who they are, I think is something we need.

And I think will be something that happens.

But boy, that Deshaun Watson deal fucked up a lot.

That's what fucked it up, man.

A lot, I think.

You know,

Like, if that works out for them up there.

Think about if Cleveland wins.

Yeah.

Yeah, that is.

Then it's like,

everybody is going to be able to pull the trigger.

But the fact that it's gone the way that it's gone, as terribly as it's gone, both on the field and off the field, it's like, that's a lot of reasoning for the NFL to say, no, we're not going to do it.

But I hope we get to a point where like vets are getting a fully guaranteed deal.

There has to be like a year, like, hey, if you get to this point, you can opt into this or something like that.

I don't know how at all.

Yeah, I don't, I mean, I'm not concerned with you there.

I'm pro pro player getting paid i don't i'm not concerned with the product dipping we we have seen a lot of guys get paid and then that next year they don't play as well because obviously you do have that motivation when you are in a contract year but once you start getting to that big big money those are usually you know like guys who've been playing for six seven eight like this would be the josh allens the lamar jackson like jalen hurts like these guys aren't just going to stop being pros once they're getting these uh huge bags and then the other guys who are you know say early 20s like a stingley or a sauce who just got paid, they want to get paid again, you know, because three, four years down the line, new CBA, new salary, they're going to want $50 million a year.

So, you know, we always want more money, especially at football.

You want to maximize your three, five, ten years, however long you play in the league.

So I hope it happens with the violence and the guarantee of injury in this sport.

It's going to be tough.

It's very scary, the injury thing.

That's why the franchise tag, everybody gets so pissed off about it.

It's like, I've earned it.

You think that I've earned it.

That's why you won't let me go to the market.

And now you're holding me down for a year and I only get one year worth of guarantees when I could, this all could end next year.

This could all end one place.

So there's that balance of it all.

I think it's a tough negotiation.

Do we have anybody on the franchise tag this year?

Not this year.

No, because Trey Smith got his deal done.

Shout out to Jimmy Sexton and Tori Dandy.

That's right.

Right?

That's right.

Tori.

Tori Dandy.

Both Jimmy and Tori, AJ.

They're a team, right?

They do it together.

They're broke.

Yes, I only talked to Jimmy and then Jimmy told me what was going on.

I guess I should have also called Tori and asked him what the fuck's going on, too.

One voice.

One band.

Yep.

One sound.

All right, let's get out of here.

I think we did it today.

Yeah, I think so, too.

Shout out SeatGeek, by the way.

Go see a show.

We've been living a little bit.

We got to see a show, Shane Gillis.

Yeah, we did.

I saw somebody say nobody was laughing in a theater.

That's a lie.

I was having a good time in there.

Great time.

You're laughing.

Some of the things, I was like,

but that's Shane Gillis football.

Exactly.

That is literally what Shane Gillis football is.

I did appreciate the, I didn't want to say it.

I said I didn't want to say it.

They wrote this.

What an angle.

There was certainly some, but this is going to happen, you know, obviously with the way the SPs has been for a long time, you drop a Shane Gillis in there who's going to like, hey, we are here to.

I mean, you knew what you were getting.

We are, we are.

I'm going to push the envelope a bit.

We're going to go.

But who says it's an envelope?

You know, because who says what the envelope is?

Right.

Especially in comedy.

And the line between humor and hate for a lot of people just kind of blends together.

It's like, hey, these are jokes.

Trying to laugh.

Well, you didn't make me laugh.

All right.

Well, hopefully the next joke will.

You know, like that is the thing.

I don't love

whenever people are like, I guess it happens to me a lot too.

When people are like, I didn't think that was funny.

It was like, well, there's other people that find that funny.

It's like, well, it's not funny.

It's like, well, who says?

You say that?

Like, this is like food taste, man.

Like, everybody has their own taste.

Everybody views things a little bit differently.

A lot of people are less serious than other people.

We understand you're trying to change the world, make the world better every single second.

But this is a comedian making sports jokes.

And the purpose is to laugh at these things and point out potential hypocrisies and problems or just a thing that we've all seen.

Like that is what comedians' jobs are since the beginning of time to kind of regulate society, I think, personally.

They have a very important role in our entire world.

Not all of them do that, obviously.

Some of them are different forms of comedy, once again, different styles.

Some of them represent different political parties, you know, in their styles.

And yeah, as soon as we heard Shane was the guy, it was like, all right,

we would like Shane to succeed in this entire thing.

And also, we very much understand how some of this is going to go and what the next day is going to look like.

They also didn't help him out.

When we went last time, it was a full open bar.

And this year, so like you had people getting like boozed up and like going in there and like enjoying themselves and having a good time.

It was just, it was just beer and wine and like seltzer this year so i went i wonder if just like the general you know like people weren't as drunk in there i don't know people were laughing though like i don't know if it wasn't coming through the tv and i saw some people say they weren't in there and nobody was laughing it's like it didn't come through for yours though number one you did it like this we had some pops we had some pops sounded quiet but people yeah but people online were like no one's laughing during mcafee's monologue but that wasn't the case yeah there was some people popping and just like for shane there was some oh yeah there were certainly some oh yeah it was definitely even for me like i and obviously i was sitting right next to you and that camera was you know so it was some jokes i'm like yeah i didn't love that

that's a joke that offends a lot of people where's fucking mac if he put him on my daughter's like oh i saw i saw you yucking it up it was funny

he hot

so and and if you don't know if you're tuning into you know the espies you you don't know because obviously shane gillis is is wildly popular but there are a lot of people who don't really know him who aren't that familiar with his brand of comedy.

They may, oh, yeah, this is Espies.

Let me tune in.

So maybe you're taken aback by some of it.

And

the demo.

Our row was definitely.

Yeah, we were laughing.

He was getting some pops in our road.

Some of them,

our row, though, we would like to say to the people who are going to get mad about us saying that we laughed at some of his jokes.

You people need to lighten up a little bit.

Maybe try weed.

Maybe try weed.

Just something to think about, you know, just something to think about.

But also, there were some things he said where we were like, Jesus.

You know, there was a couple that were like oh my god i pissed my pants off on every one i don't know if i even had any of those but i i also assume that people at home watching you know didn't think people were laughing because i assume maybe the the audience mic was turned down maybe it was turned down during the on purpose you think applause laugh times versus when he was laughing you think was a work against them again who knows i wouldn't be surprised i'll tell you what i enjoyed that esp so did i it'd have been awesome if they were selling uh or get liquor in the lobby but outside of that it's weird it's great i i enjoyed the monologue gumpy missed the entire uh home i still can't that'll be a story for that'll be a story for another day i had faith in him the whole time it was awesome first time in my life that's ever happened gumpy had a code red one block away from the theater had to get out of the sprinter van go to a random restaurant dump his shit talk to a manager Had to get to a manager because the front person was like, you can't just dump it in our bathroom, buddy.

Can I talk to a manager, please, buddy?

Missed the group pick.

We were sitting at that light for fucking 10 minutes, dude.

I was fucking dying.

Did you see me put him in the photo?

So the one I posted on IG's computer, I put Gumpy in over my shoulder.

Really?

Right here, if you look.

Hanging from his...

No, he's got his little

ship painting hat on.

His helmet, the whole thing.

I put him right there.

Because he was in the area.

Yeah.

He just couldn't get to where we...

There's like...

Six different levels of security, AJ.

It was outrageous.

Right after he got out, it was the most complex.

Take a left, go down this.

Take a right, take a left, take a right, go through another secure.

I mean, it was

at every turn, AJ.

We were like, Gumpy will be able to get here.

No problem.

What did you do during the show, Gump?

Gumpy had to go through a photo.

I found them.

Yeah, I just ran it.

It took a while to get to where they were, but I found it something.

Missed the group photos, missed the first three drinks, but got there in time to go into the theater.

That's right.

It was great to see him.

But he didn't shit his pants, which I guess we were very close to happening.

I definitely would have.

I forgot all about the beard one bullshit.

Yeah, I wasn't happy about that.

No offense to Mickey Mouse, but that was.

I wonder who made why that was why that why that happened i don't know it was cool so i mean soon someone got blitzed last year a little bit the same place

same yeah a couple years back that theater is supposed to be nice

nice all right

if you were to go to a show and do a nice theater you should use our friends at seat geek i thought the theater was nice you didn't think the theater was nice no i didn't i went backstage i thought the stage was beautiful you know because we were setting up the whole looks nice sure yeah for the whole thing had a microphone that came up out of the stage that was pretty high-tech.

That was cool.

Stage was very nice.

The design of it all.

Seats were mickey.

Oh, we got to bust the rhymes before.

Oh, my God.

How to break your neck not come immediately afterwards.

Whenever he said, now, granted, bust is still throwing his fastball.

Yeah.

This was literally the next day.

We were driving somewhere, and I'm like, hold what we just did right here.

Holy shit, bust the rhymes last night.

Hit it.

Yes.

Everything.

It's like, how has he still got it?

And then he said,

if you know how we do or something like that, I'm like, we do know how you do.

I thought we were.

I thought we were about to.

Yeah.

I was about to, on top of my chair, stand up and do that entire thing.

But I think he,

biggest reaction was Buster Rhymes.

Yes.

The entire theater stood up.

Yep.

By far.

Ty started a standing ovation.

I did.

I did.

Ty started a standing ovation.

I forget which one it was.

It was either...

No, it wasn't Simone Biles.

It might have been for Diana Terrazzi and

Alex Ford.

Yeah, because there was clapping happening, you know, a lot of clapping happening.

And Ty was like, nope.

That's literally what he said.

Stood up, big claps in the middle of the theater.

And then you see everybody.

Yeah, it was.

Ty started it.

I started standing on.

It was pretty sick.

And then

they gave a good speech

deal.

And then we learned Taurasi is an absolute dog.

It's Diana.

Big fan of the program, too.

Yeah, we learned that.

I don't know.

That's

true.

She wouldn't lie to me she gave gums a slap on the chest yeah she dumped boss she big dog gums did she

i wouldn't say big dog i thought it was out of respect

i guess she is a legendary shit talker yes i i guess i guess i saw an interview she did outside in the red carpet when she was saying like very humble saying yeah i can still take all these girls like yeah she's a dog from what i from my understanding yeah i guess she knows the show which is pretty sick we would love to get Diana DeRossi on the show.

We'd love to hear her.

I watched that documentary where she's playing overseas.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She had to play over in Russia first 12 years of her career.

Did you watch that dock on her?

I did not.

She was coming back WNBA season, then going over there.

Then she couldn't play in some things because of the contracts.

Speaking of, we're in the middle of it, I guess, with WNBA contracts right now.

Yeah, I watched the whole dock.

She's a beast.

Absolute beast.

Oh, yeah.

I had no idea she was.

I'd assume, just immediately,

that she would have hated our fucking guts.

That's how I do it.

Still do.

Still a chance.

Still assume.

She still thinks, she thinks, you know, and Shane probably did it on purpose, but she probably thinks that's how we we feel as well yeah entire thing we clapped for that four-time nba or w nba star what was her name wicks britney hicks britney hicks hicks yeah what a moment what a creative little situation that was yeah i don't know if people are talking about that particular situation i heard sarah spain's pissed and i okay what sarah spain was pissed yeah no way i i got a chance to meet sarah spain and her husband They were very nice to me and Foxy.

I mean, they're very nice.

She is, I don't know if his name, Steve.

I don't know his name.

I forget his name.

They were very nice to us.

But Sarah, obviously, pissed off, but that's her, you know, she's like, hey, we don't need to be taking anything down.

So I think we expected Sarah Spain to not love that entire thing.

Him saying Deanna Taurasi,

that had to be on purpose.

He had to have done that on purpose.

They went right to her, too.

Yeah, that's the short reaction.

They made her idea.

And then the whole make some noise.

for four-time WNBA like you were talking about, Hick.

Like calling that a low-level thing.

I don't think she was talking about that.

I don't think she was because you couldn't be talking.

That was a super genius.

Yeah.

I mean,

it worked.

How do you argue?

It works perfectly.

Well, any amount of levels to that.

I assumed she was talking about the Caitlin Clark Waffle House deal.

Oh,

yeah.

Oh,

yeah, because the whole

make some noise for four-time.

Yeah.

Raucous applause.

I was looking.

She's not sure.

That's fair.

Well, then you see.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

She could dribble the shit out of him.

Gets buckets, obviously.

I happened to meet her afterwards.

I thought her congrats on a four-time all-star, and then just kind of kept it moving.

Big laugh.

McCusker losing his mind.

Yeah, he's inside of that.

That was too straight.

All right.

Shout out to the Espiece.

Shout out.

At least Course I think was sweet.

Yeah.

Great.

Speech was phenomenal.

Speech was phenomenal.

Ad-libbed.

Because I was watching.

He was,

I think August 30th is going to be awesome.

Oh, yeah, Ohio State, Texas.

It's going to be his last

headgear, his last pick and first college game day of the year over there in Columbus.

And

he looks good, man.

Energy, moved,

talking.

In the band.

Yeah, USC band.

I forgot about that.

That was sweet.

That was sick.

I had no idea what they were going to do.

I was just told, hey, USC band's coming out at the end.

If you could bring them up, you got it.

I had no idea.

They're coming from the floor.

Yeah.

Dancers.

Holy fuck.

We're doing a full.

I actually, I was standing in a place and a guy slid in front of me for the performance.

I look at Des.

I go, holy fuck.

And I move this way.

And Dez is literally because I almost interrupted and tripped this entire guy.

So I'm like, where is a safe place?

It wasn't.

I don't know.

We should have paid attention a little bit more.

So we just kind of stood still.

Should have told you a little more.

But it was awesome.

Nah, I think it was better that way.

I think it was better how it all went.

Shouts, Kirk Herbstreet, Desmond Howard.

Shout out.

Kirk Herbstreet's hilarious.

Thanks for the dinner, Herbie.

After the SPs.

That was very kind of him and Dee.

You got a quesadilla?

How the fuck?

How'd you know?

Delicious quesadilla.

You should have heard Darren.

D's brain is still in L.A.

You should have heard Darren.

How'd you know to order the quesadilla, Fox?

So Darren is a G.

We appreciate Darren.

We love Darren.

Darren's around a lot.

We know Darren a lot.

We know Dee very well.

He's always trying to get things done, which I respect and I appreciate.

he set up this entire thing i would assume shout out to d for doing that we're at a mexican place though and foxy orders a quesadilla in darren's head just fucking was that off menu

how'd you get fries in the quesadilla full explosion it was fucking it was great it was one of the best debone i guess can't call him debone anymore it's only great d-money d money moments of all time

hey he looked good yeah he was in white pants great fit great tan he looks good oh yeah d money's ready for football season.

Yeah.

He's swinging a hot bat right now because that Mexican place was very good.

So good.

Very, very good.

Very, very good.

You can get chicken in a quesadilla since what?

Holy shit.

What?

I would have ordered that.

I thought it was just cheese this whole time.

How about this, D?

They got tacos

right here.

Wow.

What the fuck's a taco, man?

They got it right here.

That was great.

Herbie is fucking hysterical.

Kirk Herb Street's one of the funniest people existed.

He's so funny.

He's in his bag right now.

He is.

That's because he's been.

He's in his, I don't give a fuck.

Yeah, but I also think he's been kind of...

Who's he been talking to?

The dogs.

He's cooped up.

You can tell.

Yeah, he's got a lot to say.

A lot has happened.

And it was all funny.

All of it.

Yes.

How do we feel?

And then you knew.

He's a lot like you.

You toxic Ohio fucks.

Hey, so.

Drop something in there that you know a lot more than you want to lead on about.

Just want to kind of start the conversation.

Classic Herb Street.

So

fill me in.

Something.

Oh, Jesus.

Wow.

Whoa, is that right?

Even him on the show, just like casually putting in the background and acting like he wasn't doing anything to be on the show.

I want to see if you guys would see me back there.

Yeah.

Left-handed.

He did make a 25-40.

He did.

Left.

Only got to make a putt out there.

Yeah.

You can tell he's ready to get back in the ball, too.

Because regardless of the conversation, you could be just shooting shit 30, 45.

What do you got in the AFC this year?

Who you like?

Who you live?

What quarterback?

Let's go around the ball club.

Let's go around the ball.

That's his move.

He wasn't here.

Everybody's answering.

Really?

Wow.

Wow.

He's awesome.

Five months of VK will do that.

Hey, he looks good.

He does.

Deserve.

He earned it.

He looks very good right now.

Tanned.

30 years, yeah.

Fit.

22 years.

He did four hours, local radio.

Yep.

These are the dog days, boys.

Yeah, we know.

Yeah, we're in it.

Not so much this year, though, Herbie.

We've gotten lazy.

Yeah.

We've gotten lazy.

It has been great.

Can't wait for football season.

It's here.

It's here.

On that note, we have an announcement.

Yes, it is here.

Yes.

We have an announcement.

Next Wednesday,

we will be at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp.

And next Thursday,

we will be at the Hall of Fame for the Hall of Fame game.

Boom.

Football is back in a huge way.

We'll be at a training camp next Wednesday live with some of your Pittsburgh Steelers favorites.

And then we'll be at the Hall of Fame game live with all the legends of the NFL.

Shout out to the NFL Hall of Fame, Football Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Shout out to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Burt making magic happen.

Thank you for the invite, Aaron.

Thank you for obliging Coach Tomlin and Omar Khan.

And shout out to the Hall of Fame for allowing us to be set up over there.

Come hang with us.

We're going to be, I don't know about St.

Vincent's setup.

I have no idea what that's going to be like.

But I know at the Hall of Fame, there's a massive parking lot you can come hang and chill with.

We're going to be right at the steps.

I don't know if anybody's ever been set up on the steps there.

I think a lot of the legends of the game are going to swing through.

And then obviously, we kick off NFL football that night with the Lions helmet taking on the Chargers helmet on a football field in Ohio.

Awesome.

Hardball is going to be on the sideline.

MC DC is going to be on the sideline.

There's some quarterbacks that we know that are going to potentially have some time.

And we know that football is literally right around the corner because this game's happening.

We can't wait to celebrate in Pittsburgh, more specifically Latrobe, and we can't wait to celebrate in Canton next week.

Come see us.

Ain't that right, AJ?

That's awesome, man.

What a great two days.

So when does camp open for the Steelers?

Will they be in full pads this time?

So they start Wednesday in two days.

They start.

Yeah, they'll be full pads, probably.

They'll be a weekend.

They'll be full pads in.

They're one of the last two teams to start their training camp.

26 teams will start tomorrow.

Four have already started, and then two start on Wednesday.

Yes, correct.

I think it's the Cardinals who also start wednesday but they've already been doing working out i i seen tyler murray traveling with that's right marvel he was at morgan wall too yeah i said what happened night one morgan wallet something

he had randy johnson i saw that awesome morgan as baseball player growing up had to be

That had to be so cool for him.

I hope Randy knows that.

That I assume that was very, very cool for Morgan and his entire team.

His great group of dudes around him.

And then he had Joey Dirk walk out with him.

But I think the reports were saying the Night Ones crowd was a little bit

rowdy.

Really?

Yeah, fights, bottles maybe being thrown.

Things like that.

I guess it was a little bit outrageous.

They were letting the Ligger talk, unfortunately.

Last night, they let the Lager talk.

I bet that show is phenomenal.

Yeah.

He just released an album with 37 songs on it.

Hey, Morgan loves golf.

Ooh.

Loves golf.

Loves, loves, loves golf.

Very much so.

Good golfer.

It's ball fart.

Golf needs to know that Morgan Wallen is a big golf fan.

Because I think he like respects game, loves game, treats game, goes out of his way to play game, trains game.

Then obviously fitness, everything he's doing for these stadium shows.

He's a beast.

He's a fucking beast.

37 songs on an album.

A lot of songs.

Brother, I can sold four fucking albums.

850,000 copies, I think.

No big deal.

More.

$850,000 more than second.

There it it is, yeah.

Yeah.

I think you had, what, 25 of the top 50 or something like that songs?

He's just walking out there.

Thank you very much

for coming out tonight.

Bang.

100, some thousand tickets sold.

Jesus Christ.

Think about all that.

Congrats, dude.

Oh, yeah, Morgan.

I guess they're pretty wild out there in Arizona.

It's not his fault.

No.

I mean, I'm trying to think of what song could have been there in there.

He says, throw a fucking bottle at the stage.

I don't know.

You got an ad-lib, something.

Yeah, maybe right in the middle of that.

Just go ahead and let that thing go.

All right, this one goes in.

This one goes in.

We'll use

CQ code PAT30.

Nope.

CQ code PAT, just P-A-T

to get $30 off Morgan Wallet tickets.

Okay, done.

All right, full price, I guess.

Yep, all right.

That shit.

That stinks.

Where's he at next?

Can you look it up?

Where are he?

I assume where he was.

T-Bone?

Yeah.

T-Bone, where's he at next?

I think he has a tattooed on his back.

He was in Arizona last week.

He's got the entire movie.

Yeah,

you should see.

He's in Seattle.

Where's he at after Seattle?

Glenn Allen, Virginia.

And

Santa Clara, California.

Cleveland, Ohio.

Foxborough, Massachusetts.

Hell yeah.

Which one should we give tickets away to?

If this goes in.

None of them.

What?

Cleveland.

Cleveland, Ohio.

Cleveland, Ohio feels good.

Jerry Judy.

Oh.

They did some good in their lives.

We're going to give four Morgan Wallen tickets away because Jerry Judy's our favorite fucking player in the NFL.

Hell yeah, Jerry.

If this goes in.

Yep.

Well, it can't be full.

Never was meant to be.

All right, let's get out of here.

Be your friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change your life.

We're going to sing together.

Shout out to you, AJ.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Boys, great work.

Be your friend, tell a friend something nice.

Team on me.

Team on three.

We'll see you tomorrow.

One, two, three.

Goodbye.