PMS 2.0 1362 - NBA Finals Game 5 Recap, Shams Charania, Arkansas Pitcher Gage Wood, Peter Schrager, US Open Champion J.J. Spaun, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

On this U.S.

Open Champion Tuesday, June 17, 2025, this program begins now.

Sports are fantastic.

And

the Indiana Pacers last night said, listen up, NBA fans.

I got good news for you.

We are going to let this thing go to a seven-game series.

We're going to let the Oklahoma City fan base that is very loud.

And I learned that thousands of them are showing up at FBOs, which are private airports in the middle of Oklahoma City at 3.30 a.m.

to greet the team whenever they're flying back from away games in the playoffs.

Then they show up loud, very loud, call themselves loud time.

And then they got these little smackers.

Okay, little smackers.

Feels like it's down there at Mississippi State.

You know, they had those

cowbells doing that entire thing.

That feels like if you give a rompous crowd an opportunity to generate noise without much, you know, that's that's a good, and then they can also with the other hand

and they can whoa whoa, that's three different and they do.

That place was alive.

And the Oklahoma City Thunder took it to the Indiana Pacers.

Nothing was really falling.

Needed some more to fall.

Every shot seemingly not falling for us, falling for them.

And then it would be an ass beating of epic proportions by the Oklahoma City Thunder where Jalen Williams goes absolutely ape shit and Shea does what Shea does.

And then

Chet's doing this shit.

I mean, the team with the fans and the whole, it was seemingly unbeatable last night.

And the Pacers looked flustered.

They certainly were out of sorts.

And that has become a little bit of a problem against this Oklahoma City team at different times throughout this final series.

But there was a chance last night.

We got that thing within two.

We got that thing within six.

We looked at it.

I was watching that game thinking that the Pacers should be down about 30 at this point just because how it's felt watching how everything has kind of gone.

And we're only down by 14.

And it's like, wait a minute.

And then you hear the announcers, which I think everybody, you know, is excited about watching, you know, just experiencing the entire, the internet's alive with the announcers are even saying they're only down 14 right now.

This is NBA Finals.

And instead, what ends up happening is what our eyes were telling us was accurate.

And the Oklahoma City Thunder would win and cover yet again.

So the sports books are batting a thousand.

We eagerly await their projections for Thursday night's game six here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

They've been pretty spot on with what they've been thinking is going to happen in this.

And if you're Stephen A.

Smith, you know, who is a believer in his Oklahoma City team, and I think he was unfairly judged for what he said at halftime, by the way.

I just, I think what he was saying was like.

Taking out context a bit.

Yeah, I think so.

I think so.

Yeah, because there was like a quote where he definitely did say like he's happy that Tyrese was injured, but he immediately afterwards said, because that's at least an excuse for how he played, which obviously Tyrese was not able to make his own shots, create his own shots.

He did not have any points.

It was clear that he was being, you know, kind of

hindered by a clear injury.

I'll be excited to hear what that injury is at some point.

Right now, it's a calf soreness is being said.

I think it was an ankle previous before that.

He just obviously wasn't moving.

And Tyrese's move, step back.

Okay.

Step back.

We see him hit that.

There's a lot of guys that have a step back, obviously, and you have to have more moves in your bag.

But if you're not able to be explosive, I think at a point guard position, it could be a little bit difficult.

Not making an excuses, just saying it it seemed like he was going through a little bit with that right calf.

TJ McConnell comes in and lights the world on fire.

Yeah.

Okay, TJ McConnell's bopping wood out there.

He's doing his thing.

We had a moment or two where I thought maybe we're going to come back and do what the Pacers have done to not only the Oklahoma City Thunder in this particular series, game one, but also in the past to the Knicks.

And we did it to the Cavs and we did it to the Bucs, where we look like we're dying out, but then our conditioning, our cardio makes us come back late.

And instead, Oklahoma City kept with the pressure, kept thumping, and they end up winning by 11 and take a 3-2 series lead in the NBA Finals with game six happening right here in Indianapolis, Indiana at Gamebridge Fieldhouse.

You know, Jalen and Shea became the first duo in however long and one of the only duos they ever, I mean, they were

magnificent.

This team is very, very good.

Coach Dagg's brilliant.

Seemingly always adjusts.

Whenever we haven't figured out, no, we don't.

Just like Coach Carlisle.

Tricky Ricky even gets teed up early on letting these refs know he's not happy about Just a few hours after coming out and supporting Scott Foster, who was getting buried by everybody out there.

This Oklahoma City team, for good reason, was the number one overall seed in the NBA.

Don't look now.

Pacers have them right where they want them.

Yeah, I heard Miles Turner say, heard Tyrese Halliburton say, backs against the wall, must win in Game Bridge Fieldhouse.

I like our chances.

And also, I appreciate the hell how the Oklahoma City treats their basketball team out there.

That was wonderful to watch.

And we'll see what happens on Thursday.

The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

One out of the hammer, God.

Cowboys AP Tone is here.

Nine-year NFL vet fresh off the golf course for a good cause yesterday.

Oh, yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, Derrick J.

Bowler.

Glad to be back with you, boy.

Debut, it's great to have you.

And obviously, yesterday we were previewing a Indiana Pacers win in Oklahoma City.

Instead, it was the complete opposite.

It comes back here to Indiana on Thursday.

We have Sean Shirania joining us in about 10 minutes or so.

He had some looks, didn't he?

Some expressions on the camera

that is getting a little bit analyzed about Kevin Durant and his trade destinations.

He's just saying, Tanya, is it the New York Knicks?

Knicks aren't interested, I heard.

Wow.

People aren't happy.

We shall see what Shams knows.

We'll talk to him about it.

But watching that game last night, Pacers never really seemingly got going.

TJ had a couple moments there where it looked beautiful, looked wonderful, had a little bit of juice, had a little bit of energy.

But us losing by 11, I think for three quarters, you'd say, yeah, that makes a lot of sense from beginning all the way through.

Yeah, and it felt like the Pacers were down a lot more yeah or should have been down a lot more you know tj obviously gave him a bunch of juice uh gave him a run there but you know we won't be able to win that game or this series if halla burton isn't healthy and if he can't play to his full potential as a player you know you're not going to be you're not going to pull yourself out in the biggest moment uh in the championship series so that will be on either the doctors or coach rick uh carlisle to say hey you can't play you can't go we got to stick with the hot hand.

But I think he'll find a way to push through.

Backs are against the wall.

You got a game.

You got a a chance at home to push this thing to a game seven.

But boy, this OKC team and Jalen Williams particularly had a beautiful, beautiful game all night long.

But hopefully Hallie can bounce back with this soft tissue injury.

When you start talking about calves, and I think Bob Myers during the halftime show, which I got some

probably some questions, concerns about the halftime show.

But Bob mentioned the calf injury, how serious that can be.

And obviously, he was on the team with Kevin Durant.

You mean Red Panda?

I think they did a 40.

Speaking of Misi and Red Panda in that five bowler.

10 out of 10.

We've seen.

Yeah.

We've seen that.

Yeah, right here.

Right here.

Red Panda is an NBA Finals performer.

Red Panda brings

the people to their five bowler.

No doubt.

That's a great anthem.

That's a five bowler.

No doubter either the entire time.

Sometimes she's got an eye to save one of those bowls.

NBA Finals,

no doubter.

Splash.

It was.

That was a swish with five bowls from her foot on a fucking 10-foot unicycle.

Man.

to her head.

How many years is this for Red Panda?

You're born with it.

It's not even training.

I think since birth, she was kicking bulls off.

She doesn't aged that she was probably 40 in the finals.

She's like 478 or something like that, years old.

She doesn't.

I think when we had her, yeah, I think she was four.

Yeah, I don't.

But that's the thing.

She hasn't aged since she was 35.

That's Red Panda.

That's Red Panda.

She's a superhero.

Think about how pumped she was

whenever, or her genre of entertainment,

whenever the NBA launches its 82-game season.

And we need a 13-minute entertainment act

that can happen

on a basketball court.

All those talents that there are, the bicycle bunny hop guy we see, the quick change couple, rest in peace, I believe.

I'm not 100% sure.

The dog.

The dog, yeah.

The dog that spins on the wheel, the dog that jumps over the people, Red Panda.

She's made a full career out of this entire thing.

She debuted in 1993.

Wow.

this is 32 years now of red panda dazzling

cities around but when she hits that it's an immediate it's in the background i hear her music okay you're talking about the halftime show i think they had a 32 second hit the first part like yeah we're here and this was the highlight

right back to a commercial yeah and then they're back again and it's all very quick yeah they do that i think it's a very quick we're trying to get a lot of commercials in there at halftime obviously so that we can kind of keep this game rolling whenever it gets back to it so i think you know it has a little bit close but i hear red panda's music in the background.

I'm like, oh no.

Oh, no.

Because we,

you know, we had a couple of decisions at the Game Bridge Fuel House, you know, that I think some people were like, well, this is the finals.

What are we doing the finals here?

And then I see her hit the five bowler as clean as she did.

I knew we were in for it.

I knew we were in deep shit.

I just hope that the Pacers are able to bounce back from that devastating performance.

Wow.

What?

Why are you being so negative about that?

Look, I don't want to be negative, okay?

Because last night,

I'm glad you guys got to see Red Panda because you heard it.

I actually missed Red Panda because I had to put my volume at zero with about eight minutes left in the first quarter.

But I will say

how good the crowd was loud.

It was kind of like white noise.

Yeah, exactly.

Salvage.

It was a little too much.

It was more of the broadcasters.

I don't know how I feel about that.

We need the.

They had the

legal.

They had the bubba bus.

They had the super.

I saw a kid with like one of the

tones.

Of course I.

How about the baby?

How about the baby?

I mean, cute baby.

This baby, incredibly cute baby.

Just right as we're shooting free throws, we got this wildly cute,

obviously going to go on to do great things, baby here.

Just waving around in the background.

Obviously, you're not going to make any free throws when you got a,

an eight-month-old?

Is that seven, eight-months?

Right there?

That's cheating.

That is cheating.

His neck's still a bit wobbly.

It's cute, baby.

That guy, the dad actually tweeted me and said the baby's first word was defense.

Yep.

That was a great tweet.

Yeah, it was.

What are you going to do?

I think his name is Matt Wells, maybe.

Matt Wellesy?

Yeah, Wellesy.

Good pop out of me out of Wellesy.

Good seats there, too.

I mean, he's right in high view.

But that Oklahoma City fan base is insane.

I think the Clappers, though.

Yeah.

I think the Clappers were very loud, which was good play by them.

If that's a loud, that's a great play by them.

The Clappers are great.

It's over, though.

You know, you can't really.

And Feel the Pain Bridge.

In Feel the Pain Bridge.

Look, I mean, game four was in feel the pain bridge as well but tyrese is hurt nemhard i don't know what happened with andrew nemhard so something did maybe he was looking at the baby maybe he was thinking about red panda but it was a good run for the pacers it was awesome This trophy staying here, unfortunately, on this side of the studio.

And unless there is some miracle, and maybe Tricky Ricky has something, but OKC's too good.

Anytime the Pacers hit a big shot and it got to two, but anytime it felt felt like it got close, just as, you know, it felt as though it's a 30-point game early, it never felt that close because OKC would answer right away.

Chet Holgram's still kind of a weirdo, but Jalen Williams.

I don't think so.

He's a dope.

I think Chet and Wemby doing battles at altitudes that we've never seen before.

Yeah.

He could be a weirdo and be good still.

Well, Lemby can.

He's coming back.

Yeah, Wemby's coming back.

I'm not sure if he's going to battle, by the way, right now.

Yeah, Monks are bad.

I'd be a bit worried if I was a Spurs fan.

Don't sleep on the Monks.

I mean, he might just retire next year and be like, I had more fun being a Monk.

No, he's doing this to get better or get inspired.

Remember, he was doing his interview saying he wants to connect with the universe.

Like, that is.

Yeah.

That's why we said this guy's a 97-year-old man.

Monks get ball.

I don't know why we're doing that.

If you were to YouTube right now, Monks playing basketball, like

he's getting good runs in.

I don't think you should be worried if you're a Spurs fan or a fan of Wemby at all.

And Chad,

me saying he's a weirdo has nothing to do do with his basketball skill.

He's incredible.

I just think sometimes he forgets who he is at times.

But I think the LKC Thunder as a whole is just one of the better teams

to really ever do the entire thing, especially with SGA and Jalen going off at the same time like last night.

Here's some monks getting after it.

Obviously, we've seen this on the internet in the past.

And every time it pops up, you think you're surviving.

Yeah.

Skip to my loot.

What a spin.

Obi Obi Toppin had one of these last night.

Kyrie.

Where he took off from like the foul line, maybe, and did one of these from the side, bank in.

It's like you're watching some of this shit.

On Chet.

Yeah, it was incredible.

Yeah, because he had to go like this because Chet's so tall.

Yeah.

And then Hartenstein, I mean, he's first dunked.

I mean, they start that game, him dunking it right down the middle.

The place is already at a fever's pitch.

Then you start that thing with a yam.

It's like they ignited that place.

But if you jump, if you told Pacers fans,

you'd be 3-2.

Yep.

Game 6 in the finals with a chance to push it to game seven, they'd be happy.

Sign up.

Right where we want to be.

It should be loud.

It should be a great game.

I'm excited about it.

But hopefully, that fan, Dilbert, I believe his name was.

Hopefully he doesn't make the trip because that OKC.

Dilbert.

Dilbert Jenkins.

Because you're talking about Dilbert Jenkins.

If he's in the building, we ain't got a shot.

I don't know if enough people know who Dilbert Jenkins is.

But I will say, Dilbert Jenkins looks exactly how you just thought of a human.

Yeah.

Right there.

I said Dilbert Jenkins, your brain thought of a human.

That is Dilbert Jenkins.

Okay.

He is in the group text, I believe.

And he was on the court, right?

Yeah.

Was he being honored, I think?

He's like a top security advisor for the Oklahoma City Thunder, I believe.

And the president.

Yeah, he was the top security.

I wouldn't doubt it.

People talk about the clappers.

People talk about their fan base, how they got the t-shirts.

Not enough people talking about Dilbert Jenkins, enable midstream safety partner with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

When Dilbert fucking Jenkins walks into the building, whatever he's supporting is winning.

And this has not been talked about nearly enough.

Did we know they had a Dilbert Jenkins in that building?

Did we know they had the clappers in that building?

No.

I would like an investigation in the Oklahoma City Thunder home atmosphere.

It's too electrifying.

It's too daunting.

It's too intimidating.

Especially if you've got fucking Delbert Jenkins roaming the sideline.

And he needs to be in a suite.

He needs to be kept 15, 20 feet away from the court.

Tyrese Halliburton slips early.

We think potentially that leads to a little bit more of that injury.

Or maybe the injury happens and he falls or whatever the case.

How do we know it wasn't Delbert Jenkins just sitting right there?

Jaw onto the court.

His chance.

That's probably SGA's personal security, actually.

Delbert, we appreciate you, Delbert.

Like, I don't think

he's security.

Yeah, he follows him up and down the court.

Is that who that guy is?

I thought I saw a blur.

That's Delbert.

Yes, he can.

Yes, he can.

All right, let's talk about some other news before we get back into basketball.

The tickets for the Vikings-Pittsburgh Steelers game in Dublin, Ireland are going on sale.

There's people waiting in the queue.

This queue has been a topic of conversation because it showcases if the country is interested in the event or not.

Obviously, I think musicians do this, comedians do this.

How many people actually want to buy the tickets or how many tickets are for sale?

And are you selling tickets?

Is it soccer?

Which I guess is not selling any tickets.

Which is weird.

The NFL in Dublin, up over 600,000 people waiting in the queue.

There's different numbers that have been popping up, obviously, whenever you check in.

It was at 620,000, I think, at one point.

Somebody had it, 608,000.

There was down at 500,000 some thousand, a couple different points.

Nonetheless, there's not a 700,000 seat stadium in Dublin, Ireland.

So I do believe they sold that place out and could sell out another place and another one and another one.

Shout out to the Ireland fans being midtime football people.

Oh, yeah.

Shout out to McQuaid.

Shout out to McQuaid.

I mean, he had it.

Anytime McQuaid posts a picture of him spinning the NFL football that has the NFL Dublin game on it, you know shit's about to go down.

And obviously that many people.

And this is why we're going to go to

18 international games or whatever.

And they're just going to keep pop.

It doesn't matter what country they do this in.

This is Germany had over a million a year.

Yeah.

germany bigger country than yeah london i i'm sure i i don't know when like the madrid when the spain game is going to sell their tickets i guarantee it'll do the same thing like it just

and i don't know how many of that are people that are from like the u.s who are going to go you know like make a trip out of it i think the wide majority is just people in these countries like genuinely they love the nfl and and we're going to see this just keep going bigger and bigger for the next 10 years we were told at the some of the england games there was a lot of germans correct that were coming over to london for the england games whenever they were just being hosted in london england because that was the beginning of the international play on a regular basis so now that's moved into multiple countries you know roger goodell he no longer has a number two true congrats to brian rollout yeah brian new ceo of the pga tour number two in command at the nfl is now running the pg i think that's good news for golf yeah feels like that's a deal maker yep

Let's get everybody

figure that out soon.

Let's do that.

Yeah, we can do a couple, right?

Celebratory events.

Call them live.

Oh, especially if you.

We'll do it.

Get our guys in there.

Do the ba-ba-da-ba-ba-da-ba-da-purse.

Then we get everybody in the bang-ba-bang.

And then we, everybody's golfing together again.

Golf's great.

Need it.

Do need it.

Feels like businessman, if there is a deal to be done and they think it should be done, I believe this man will get it done.

I believe he is a deal maker.

I think he is a good deal maker.

And I think everybody speaks very highly of him.

That works in his work.

From what I've been told, I've had a couple interactions with him.

Very bright.

It's very obvious that you're talking to somebody with some talent there.

Not a lot of people getting to that level.

Think about what the NFL has become in over, what, the last 20 years probably?

Yeah.

Well, this man has been there for the last 20 years.

So been there, done that, seen that, and also has an immense passion for golf.

I think he has said on numerous records.

Not able to work in there, obviously working at the NFL.

I think it's good play for the PGA.

And I'm pumped that NFL people, you know, are maybe getting a little bit of recognition in other places for what they're doing.

So good luck to Brian.

Good luck to golf.

And with that, let's go to a man who's giving subtle messaging via his eyes to the cameras.

Yeah.

Tells if we will.

Last night, Schump said that KD to Spurs would be great.

Keep an eye on the man on the left side of this screen's face, please.

I think he would only want to be playing for a championship, and that makes the most sense in Minnesota, right?

But we're talking about a basketball point.

I think that him being in San Antonio and just having that coaching,

having that organization behind us you're talking about keeping a guy

you're talking about making sure a guy doesn't play too many games know the ups and downs of the end of the career i think they just

well that's from spurs interact by the way shout out uh for finding that seeing that posting that and then also tweeting us that you need answers let's get them ladies and gentlemen the man who's making

sexy eyes yeah a little bit look like it ladies and gentlemen shampooing

shams let's get right to it what are you doing so what had happened was

first of all, shout out Starlink.

I just want to say that right off the top.

We have to give a lot of credit.

I think that should be in every plane,

everywhere.

We need that on every single jet in the nation.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree.

If you're allowed to, though, you know, me and Shams were FaceTiming earlier today before he was about to tell a great story, rudely interrupted.

Sure.

Guess you're not allowed to be on a phone call in the middle of flight.

Starlink, though, great connection.

Great connection.

No one talks about it.

Starlink.

You can do everything.

You can do everything on Starlink.

I might be giving up too much.

They're going to ban all this once I'm out of here.

No, no.

You can do everything.

I was on a plane that had Starlink Wi-Fi.

I think I talked about it immediately upon getting the show.

It was like,

every plane needs that.

Every plane, it is unbelievable.

You're talking about streaming.

It's like you're just...

It feels like you got 500 up, 500 down up there because I think you're closer.

I don't want to do too much, you know, but it feels like you are pretty close to cleaner, you know, and it's, I think they're.

It might be better than Wi-Fi.

It might be better than Wi-Fi.

I might have to make that claim.

A thousand times better on a plane.

I don't know about on Earth down here.

I'm talking about in a plane.

It might be 10,000 X better than

the other models.

Okay.

No questions asked.

Clearest FaceTimes I've ever had on Earth, in the sky.

on a boat.

I was on a plane with a star length thing.

8K, me and this person.

Outside of the the world.

They stunk when I had it in my house.

Planes.

I don't know about Earth.

Yeah, planes.

We're talking about planes.

I'm sure Elon's.

Anyways, let's get to it.

Your sexy guys last night about the Spurs.

I don't know if we can go back and do a replay while we're talking, but I want to break it down.

So

by the way, I love the body language expert police.

I'm sure this has happened to you before, Pat.

I love, I'm just getting all these tweets.

Oh, he's saying he's going to be a Spur.

So here's what's going on.

This is my first time on the Hoopstream ESPN show pre-game.

It was a great time with Brian Winhorse, Amon Schumper, Vanessa Richardson.

And I'm just gathering my surroundings.

But, you know, Schump, you know, he's making some great points about the Spurs and Kevin Durant.

And so obviously my antennas go up.

But I'm a reporter.

I'm an insider.

And I'm an insider.

Like, my job is to know.

And so what I start thinking about is, is this possible?

Like,

I'm not even listening to like, you know, the great points he's making and why it makes sense for Kevin Durant to go to San Antonio.

Oh my God.

I love how you guys paused on that.

Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to find a right spot because you do look directly.

He's looking right at the camera.

So, so, so, yeah, I mean, I am, I am, I mean, part of it is definitely, I'm gathering my surroundings.

It's my first time on this show.

Like, I got to figure out, are they doing one shots?

Are they keeping it on us?

Like, what's going on?

Oh, you're trying to find your camera.

Okay, Sean's.

Sean's producing it.

When I butt right back in, I know which camera to look at, but they were doing wide wide shots the whole time, which is fine.

Yeah, TV.

But I'm not going to lie, while this was going on, while Shump is making these points, I just think about, as an insider, is this possible?

And I'm just like, okay, from all the conversations I'm having right now, all the information I have is that Miami, Houston, and Minnesota is where the focus of the Suns conversations are for Kevin Durant.

And from my understanding, right now, the Spurs have not.

been the aggressive team for Kevin Durant.

Kevin Durant has a list of three preferred destinations.

It's the Spurs, it's the Rockets, and it's the Heat.

But out of those three, you know, the Spurs have had a level of interest.

I mean, it's Kevin Durant, like who wouldn't?

But their timeline compared to the assets and potentially what it would take to go get Kevin Durant,

they're just not on that time that Miami may be on or Houston may be on.

The Houston being a team that made it to the first round of the playoffs this year, has a veteran coach in Emei Udoka, a great coach in Emei Udoka, has pieces that they feel, okay, we bring him in, we're winning a championship.

You can make the case, and and that's why when Schump was eloquently putting it, I'm like, you know what, this makes a lot of sense, but is it realistic?

And the patience versus the actual assets, and I think they're really going to be stocking their assets for potentially a bigger move, bigger players, someone that may fit their timeline.

But listen, the Spurs have had a level of interest.

Would I say that they are among the leaders right now?

In that moment right there, even though I was gathering my surroundings, back of my mind, I'm like, no, I wouldn't.

But Schump made some great points.

Okay, so Schump, and also it's been reported that KD would like to go there, which you just reiterated there.

So it all makes a lot of sense for the Spurs, especially with Wemby there and everything that they have going on and potentially going on a run.

And the NBA, we would assume, wanting them to go on a run.

So Kevin Durant to the Spurs would make sense when people say it.

I think we would all like it.

It would make sense, but Pat, like, honestly, the Rockets and the heat are more realistic

as of right now.

So

whenever you said the timeline or the assets and everything like that, you're saying these other teams seemingly much more interested when it comes to what the offers are potentially going to be and when those offers are going to be made.

Yeah, like the players that it would take to get a deal done, the draft capital that it would take to get a deal done.

Those, you know, Houston, Miami, Minnesota, a little bit more motivated.

And there's a couple other wildcard teams, just a little bit more motivated, potentially.

San Antonio's got a ton of flexibility.

First of all, they've got Victor Omanyama, potentially the future face of the NBA.

You have De'Aaron Fox.

You have the number two pick in the draft.

You have the number 14 pick in the draft.

They have their first round picks moving forward.

What that organization has done, now, obviously Greg Popovich has moved into the president role.

Mitt Johnson, first-time head coach, full-time head coach starting this next season.

But what that front of his Brian Wright as general manager, Mitt Johnson as coach, they want to have a similar run and be set up similarly to R.C.

Buford and Greg Popovich.

And in their minds, you know, they have a ton of assets to where if there's a guy that becomes available that's on that timeline potentially, you go out and make that deal.

That's not to say that they don't have interest in Kevin Durant.

They do.

And potentially they would make an offer, and I'm sure they have discussed different frameworks.

But what the other teams are offering is just a little bit more aggressive.

Got it.

Understandable.

You said that deal could happen in the next few days.

I believe you said that on Friday.

We are on Tuesday now.

I think that would still be the fringe of few days, but is it still very active, I think?

I mean, at this point in these conversations, it's really just you're looking at a piece tour away from deals getting done on multiple different sides, folks.

From Miami's perspective, from Houston's perspective.

Minnesota is the one wildcard team that you think about.

They made back-to-back Western Conference finals, and I reported over the weekend, Kevin Durant's three preferred spots, Miami, Houston, and San Antonio.

No Minnesota on that list.

So clearly, there's not an interest for Kevin Durant to go there, but Minnesota wouldn't be the first team to trade for a player that doesn't want to be there.

Obviously, the Raptors did it in 2018 with Kawhi Leonard.

He didn't want to go there.

He wanted to go back to L.A., but he goes to Toronto, wins a championship that year.

So

it's not something that's revolutionary.

So from my understanding, Minnesota is still studying it.

They're not out of it.

They're trying to figure out, is there a pathway where we can make this gamble, bring Kevin Durant in, still be able to build the roster?

Because they've got Nas Reed's free agency potentially.

They've got Nikhil Alexander Walker's free agency, Julius Randle's free agency that they've got to deal with.

And now Pat in the NBA, you talk about the second apron.

You talk about the first apron.

You talk about the luxury tax,

which your Pacers will have to deal with this offseason.

These are all major components of team building.

And so I think Minnesota is going to keep studying it.

But honestly, every day that goes by,

I think it's more likely that they're going to, if they're involved here, it's going to be, you know, seeking out multi-team trade sneers, three, four-team deals, whether they get Kevin Durant or whether they're just involved in a deal deal that's facilitating that but minnesota is still very much engaged and active in these conversations okay you said miami as well debutch obviously lifelong miami heat fan yes sir obviously the two pieces we have there now tyler hero and bam i would assume that they are untouchable when it comes to making a big move for kd uh what type of pieces would we move to acquire kevin durant

Yeah, those two have not been in any conversations, DB.

So you and the rest of, I guess, Heat Nation can breathe a side relief.

But, I mean, they you know in terms of tradable salaries you have players like Andrew Wiggins you have a Terry Rozier to make you know that's really just to make money match but for the heats perspective they do have some young players that have value right Khalil Ware you have Nicola Jovich

You have Jame Jake.

So out of those three guys which player DB which player are you comfortable putting in a deal for Kevin Durant?

Any of them.

What?

Outside of Bam.

I love those guys.

I love them all.

But outside of Bam and Tyler, yeah, do what we got to do, Ryles.

UD was going to be pissed if khalil ware got traded that's yeah i know he was i think i think i think ud was gonna throw some hands if i told him khalil ware is in this deal i like

ud great teammate but i think yeah he was tampering yeah he was not he was not

really tampering

talking about the program and what they were providing he talked he made some great points the spo being there but obviously the structure being there but uh yeah keep keeping the coins coming in yeah we'll see kevin durant sign up for no chocolate chip cookies at this stage.

We're talking about Kevin Durant here, though.

We're talking about a guy who's about to turn 37 in September.

I mean, the season that he just came off of scoring the ball, how efficient he's playing.

I mean, I think, you know, talk to teams, and I think as well, he's probably got...

two to four more years really at this level potentially barring injuries right i mean even though he's at that age his game is a is aging gracefully um so if you're in miami especially we saw what orlando did with desmond

If you have a chance in Miami to bring in Kevin Durant, you already have Tyler Hero, you have Bam out of you build that team out the right way, keep one or two of the young players like a Khalil Ware, and maybe you put another young player or two in like a Jovich or Jake, then you're really looking at a situation where, okay, we can compete in the Eastern Conference and we can give ourselves a legitimate chance.

Or is Miami waiting for another star player to become available?

We'll see.

But they are...

They are still somewhat of a factor in this conversation.

All right, well, we shall see if Rils gets back in the dance and if the the Miami Heat are able to get the trade done.

Sounds like there's some competition.

Doesn't sound like the San Antonio Spurs are keeping up with Houston, Miami, or Minnesota.

Sean's dropped a little nugget.

Yeah, Sean's just dropped a little piece of information.

What'd he say?

Well, when he said, you know, KD, if he's not available, maybe another big star, maybe another big name.

But he didn't.

Well, he said that also for the Spurs gearing up for a big move, but, you know, maybe on their time.

Yeah, so who's he?

Who are these people?

Is this the most crazy thing?

You got to be patient.

You got to be patient.

You saw the De'Aaron Fox became available.

They jumped at it.

Who could that next player be?

Yeah, you tell us.

Yeah.

Grizzlies, Jaw.

Oh, and we don't know.

Jaw?

That player is not available yet, Pat.

Yet.

Yet.

Celtics.

All right, we gotta, we'll get back.

Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you.

Senior NBA insider at ESPN, Sean Shrawn, you're the best.

We're getting better at reading his shit.

Yep.

Yeah, like rap, we got his shit.

Shefty, we got his shit.

Shams, he's developing his shit.

Yeah.

Right?

Because we've seen him since young in the game, baby insider to now the senior insider.

Yeah.

It's been a great ride alongside Shams.

True.

That phone call got cut off very quickly on that plane.

You know, you got to watch some of these flight attendants.

You know,

you just got to.

You know, I know

you travel differently these days when I'm out here in these commercial streets and they do have power.

Look, hey, you got it.

It's kind of like arguing with a coach.

You got it.

You can't be right in those situations.

I understood it.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now.

I don't want to hear the guys next-to-me phone conversation.

Yeah, well, he had air airpods.

Hey, he was speaking, but you're right.

He was talking.

I was on a flight over in Japan, and me and Chuck Pagano and Anthon Costanzo and DaQuel Jackson and Pops, Micah,

we're having a great time on this plane.

We're pretty boozed up, might add.

Only Americans on the flight.

We're heading down to Oklahoma.

Only ones sitting first class two biggest assholes on the plane no questions actually figure literally and figuratively and uh we get a little turbulence and we're just laughing having a good time because we can't understand anything that's going on anywhere the written word can't understand have no idea what it is the speaking of everything can't understand any of it we're hitting all this traffic and then all of a sudden this flight kind of comes up to us and shushes us individually each of us

and it sat down and uh

i've never laughed harder in my life and then i said okay you got it it.

And then we all showed up.

And then Chuck couldn't hold it in.

Chuck was like laughing.

And then she comes back and hits us another round of shushes.

I guess.

Individually?

Again?

Yeah.

She like parceled us into two groups because I was in like the middle section.

They were in the side section.

So you got two.

So it was a two-shusher after a six-shusher.

Sure.

And I guess talking on planes,

not a thing.

I guess over there, definitely no noise is being made.

We did one of these.

Go down.

Take back off.

Yeah.

Japanese they're speaking.

Oh, so you had no clue.

No clue.

What the?

What just happened?

All blinds are closed.

We have no idea.

Pretty boozed up.

Go back up.

That was one of the wildest experiences of my life.

Biggest takeaway, though, six shushes.

One woman shut us up completely.

It was unbelievable.

You didn't speak on the subway either, right?

Wasn't that a thing?

Yeah, because I was trying to have a conversation.

There was no talking in subway.

I was trying to learn about these people.

Very, very, very respectful

society.

Yeah, why don't you be like that on planes?

Sean's got to do that too.

Sean's in there laughing and joking around.

Can't have joining us now.

Shams Japanese?

What's that?

Seams is in Japanese, so different.

Seams is not Japanese, though.

I don't think so.

You never know.

No, he's from Pakistan.

I think he is actually, right?

I think he is.

Yeah, he told us that the other day.

Yeah.

Sean's a dog.

Has worked his ass off.

Proud of him.

Speaking of dogs, ladies and gentlemen, yesterday at the College World Series, magic happened.

There was lightning in a bottle.

That bottle, one man who pitches for Arkansas.

For the third time in the history of the College World Series, a no-hitter was thrown by this man.

Ladies and gentlemen, Gage Wood.

How are you doing, Gage?

I'm good.

How are you?

Good, man.

Just talking about playing etiquette over here, having a good conversation.

How are you, brother?

What a day yesterday.

Did you get a chance to look back and enjoy all of it yet?

Or how have you kind of taken in the history that you created yesterday by throwing absolute gas for over 105 pitches over there in Omaha.

It's pretty surreal right now.

I haven't really, hasn't really fully settled in or anything yet, but

I don't know.

It's crazy.

My phone still hasn't quit blowing up.

So, I mean, it's pretty cool.

Well, we appreciate you taking time to chit-chat with us, especially after the wave of emotions I could imagine you and the boys had last night and probably carried into the morning.

A lot of history's on the line.

You've already made some history of your own.

Let's talk about you.

Yeah, that moment right there, awesome.

Okay.

In the eighth inning, I believe, a batter called for time.

Yup, here it is.

And it was zoomed in on you.

And you are how I would hope somebody who is in the middle of a fight or a physical sport would react.

Felt like you felt challenged by the buddy and disrespected.

When you talk about being in a zone, then your boys are like, yo, let's get this thing going, you know, like when you're in a zone like that, when do you know?

And are you always the guy that is willing to fight the batter if they would like to, which is what it felt like yesterday?

Yes, exactly what you said.

I felt like it was kind of a challenge.

You know, I feel like everyone in that ballpark knew it was at stake right there after I hit that guy in the foot.

I wasn't going to lose the other part of that game that I wanted.

And

when he did that,

it was basically,

I felt like he was challenging me, and there was no way I was not winning.

I love everything about that.

The commentator was like, look for the fastest fastball that we've seen all day.

Because most pitchers, I feel like, are very cerebral, you know, feels like they are, they have their routine, they're kind of robotic.

Watching you yesterday with the boys was fantastic.

And then Jeff Passon says, like, hey, Gage would,

could, and did make himself some money with his performance in Omaha.

Are you and the boys a tight group, a jovial group?

It looks like a team that I should be a fan of because the way everybody was kind of rallying in your energy.

Oh, yeah.

Everybody's in it together on this team for sure.

You know, we love each other.

And, I mean, it hasn't been easy this year.

We've had a lot of firsts happen in this program since I've been here, you know, losing three series in a row, missing eight weeks a season, a lot of other key injuries, you know.

And

this group of guys just wants to keep playing together.

So yesterday was really special.

And

I think we're going to put on a show here coming days.

Yeah, you already have, just so you know, you'll be remembered forever was the tweet that I put out because they'll have to talk about you literally forever.

I loved your response too.

This is how you responded immediately after the game after being the third player ever to throw a no-hitter.

You just threw the third no-hitter in the history of this event.

How do you describe your emotions?

I shouldn't have hit the guy.

That's it.

That's all I got to say.

That's one of the greatest responses I've ever heard.

Hey, man, you just did something that only three people in like 100 years have ever done.

Well, I made a mistake.

How did you not let that one mistake lead to another?

I heard you just say, you hit the guy and blew the one thing, but you didn't want to lead it to the other.

Is it in every pitch mindset that you have, every inning mindset?

What is kind of your focus when you hit the mound?

Yeah.

I mean, after that seventh inning,

it was really starting to like come to my mind.

And I was just telling myself like one pitch at a time.

And it's kind of like that throughout the whole game, you know?

But

after that that happened, I just, I knew I had to just figure it out.

And I knew I had to move on and just keep pitching because it was still, I mean, it was only a three, zero ball game.

And, I mean, you give a team any hope in a game like that.

And, I mean, you may be going home.

So I just had to figure it out and move on.

And that's what I did.

And it ended up working out for me.

Yes, yes, it did.

It was awesome to watch, man.

We are here in Indianapolis with no ties to woo.

Sue.

We're not going to call the hogs too many more times.

I know you're supposed to be like 10, 15 times there.

I don't know if we have time.

We have no allegiances to your baseball team.

We were watching you, I think around the fourth inning is when there was like an alert, alert, alert is happening.

And then all eyes in, I assume everywhere that was watching you do your thing, to see you complete that and have the mental toughness to get through it all, especially after like a self-inflicted air with the hitting of the batter was beautiful for sports as a whole, brother.

You need to know that.

We are very, very pumped for you and your future.

And what you did was great for sports as a whole.

Now, Ty has a question for you.

Yeah, Gage, obviously, no hitter is incredible.

You're only the third guy to do it in Omaha.

But for me, I mean, 19 strikeouts is...

absolutely fucking absurd.

Obviously, that's a 9-in-8 record at the College World Series.

At what point did you realize like, holy shit, these guys can't touch my fastball.

They can't touch my curveball.

And have you ever had your stuff working like that in your life before?

Or did you just feel invincible yesterday?

Yeah, yesterday I felt a little invincible.

I really didn't even know that I struck out that many guys.

I didn't know it was even close to that.

I thought maybe it was, you know, 10 to 12.

It didn't feel like they were just striking out that much.

But then, I mean, innings stack up, strikeout, stack up.

And then after the game, they said 19.

And I was like, what?

I didn't know.

I just knew, I just knew it was a no-hitter after the game.

Wow, that guy threw a hell of a game.

That was me.

Holy shit, man.

That's wild.

You talk about feeling invincible.

We watched you walk off the mound one time and you had this billionaire strut.

It was like, I love this guy.

I actually tweeted the Colts to sign you just to play any position.

Did you play other sports growing up?

Always baseball?

I played basketball, football, and then later on in high school, I picked up golf.

It makes sense.

You look like just a classic competitor.

And I think that's why I enjoyed watching you pitch so much is because you were doing it.

And then in the eighth inning, when you got close for time and your reaction, instead of being scared for the moment, it wasn't that you were scared for the moment at all.

It was the complete opposite.

And what you said about, oh, this guy's challenging me, like we all immediately saw that that's how you viewed it.

We're like, yes, like this is how you want competitive people to do.

And then to show up and deliver absolute dog absolute dog now with that being said you seem to be a guy that can handle everything did the team treat it that way go ahead con man yeah gage it sounds like you didn't know how many strikeouts you had so i assume some of your teammates or managers weren't really coming up to you uh in the dugout letting you know where you were at did you kind of stay away from every everybody when you do pitch is it one of those situations where hey don't talk to me i'm locked in i'm in the zone or is it more you know jovial on the sideline because from what you said right there, it seems as though you're kind of like a, hey, if anyone talks to me, I'll feed you a fastball right to your beak.

No,

during the game,

when I'm pitching,

really, it's just, especially yesterday was so hot, I was just focusing on like hydrating.

Just getting a lot of carbs in my body.

Our nutritionists and doctors do a great job of like making sure that I'm getting fueled properly in between innings and everything.

But the guys really just, they're on the dugout wall cheering,

just trying to get the offense going and everything.

But the guys don't really talk to me much other than when I'm coming in between innings or going out there, telling me, like, go get another big zero or something.

But after, after, though, it was, I mean, all the emotion, you know, all the congrats and everything.

And I mean, that was just an awesome moment to share with my guys.

You know, I love them to death.

So, I mean, look like a team that was very together.

And

I appreciate that your your team is where it is right now.

Now, you take on the winner of LSU UCLA, I believe.

Next, says the College World Series rolls on in Omaha.

Tone has a question for you about the next time we get to witness a little bit of a wood electricity.

Yeah, Gage, I was wondering, you know, because you guys have the one loss already.

So obviously, every game here on out is everything.

It's a win or die situation.

How many days rest do you need?

Could you be called on in a, you know, a short rest situation for an inning or two?

Or how are you guys preparing to move forward?

I mean, considering it was 119

yesterday,

what was it?

119.

Yeah.

Holy, thank God we didn't go to that.

I mean, it would have been good to see you, obviously.

It would have been good to see you.

119?

Pitch.

Oh, shit.

I thought degrees?

No, no, no.

Oh, it's all right.

Jesus Christ.

Oh, my God.

He's talking about how hot it was.

He'd have been throwing 130 miles an hour if it it was hot.

Jesus Christ.

Okay, got it.

Sorry.

I thought you were saying it was 119 degrees.

Fuck.

I was about to say, thank God.

All right.

Sorry about that.

119 pitches still out.

A lot.

Landish.

Sorry, buddy.

But

that was the most pitches I've thrown in my college career.

Topping a couple weeks ago was 89.

So I'm a little sore today, but we'll see how we get going later on in the week and we'll see how big adrenaline plays in.

But I mean, if there's a moment where I need to go in there and get the job done,

not going to let them not put me in.

Love that.

Gage Wood calling himself out to the mound.

With that being said, to get ready for the game, there's probably some sort of routine.

Go ahead, Debuff.

Yeah, Gage, I know athletes are pretty superstitious.

What's the pre-game routine for you?

What type of music do you listen to?

Is there anything that you have to do before you're going to go out there and take the mound?

I don't listen to any music.

Psychopath.

I really just get up.

I make sure that I, you you know, put the right stuff in my body.

I don't

eat a whole lot of like sugar or anything, no fried stuff, at least five days before the start.

And I just make sure I got the right electrolytes, you know, nutrition and everything.

And it's really just in my mind knowing that I can do it and go out there and just get the job done.

Five days, no fried stuff?

I really don't eat fried food, really, anyways.

What are we eating?

What are we eating on day-to-day?

We got acai bowls,

big acai bowl guy i love those okay so acai bowls are we uh we doing a lot of smoothie stuff or what's the protein uh protein shakes but i eat a lot of steak hell yeah just straight steak we got titers too we got two titers on the side there we we uh meat and carbs there protein and carbs or what do we got going on

Yeah, usually it's rice or like potatoes or something like that, fruit, honey.

I usually have a lot of honey and fruit in the mornings.

You talked about the nutritionist there on staff that has everything figured out.

I assume that's a massive key to the Arkansas baseball team.

Seems like you've really talked about it.

No fried foods for five days beforehand.

No fried foods at all as a college player.

Awesome.

Love your commitment.

Acai bowls talking about rice and everything.

It sounds like you're measuring.

Are you guys measuring stuff in this whole thing?

No, I don't know.

I just, I eat whatever I want.

You know, I mean, I burn it off usually every day.

So

dog.

Weapon.

No music.

So it's good steaks out there in Omaha, right?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Omaha steaks.

We talking about a raw, I think.

Yeah, they have great meat.

Nobody beats their meat.

Well, I said steaks.

What's that?

Steaks.

Steak is straight.

You have some of the Omaha meat out there, Gage.

You've been eating some Omaha meat?

After the game, me, my family, and some family friends went to Texas State Brazil.

Oh.

Oh.

Love that.

Speaking of your family, we watched your family.

watch you do your thing and then I just saw the tweet the reason why I thought it was 119 degrees because I saw this tweet that Jack the Long Champs put out and it was you running over immediately after the game and tossing the game ball to your dad.

Like such a beautiful moment, especially in the sports world, because the amount of hours I assume that you two and days and lifetime together that you've spent around baseball and sports as a whole, that's a beautiful moment.

What was your dad's reaction last night as you guys were eating a little meat over there in Omaha?

What was the messaging from your family to you?

I assume the immense amount of pride they have to have in their boy for doing something that only two others in the past have ever done before

uh you know i think they were more excited than i was i mean they were both trying uh i even had some family friends uh their parents uh one of my best friend his dad said he was just balling after the game after

uh i concur the no hitter but no it's awesome uh a lot of hours spent with that guy um

whether he was driving me when i was younger to practice hours away hours back late nights, school nights.

He was going to work early the next morning.

And even when I got older, just traveling the country, spending all kinds of money on me to chase my dream.

And now here I am.

And I mean, my life kind of changed after one outing.

Yeah.

Well, I'm getting a little teared up thinking about the relationship and what you just said about your dad.

I had a dad who did the same thing.

It's beautiful.

It's wonderful.

And we're happy you all got to experience what you experienced yesterday.

And it only happens because of all your hard work.

Never forget it.

You earned that shit yesterday.

You didn't just fall into that.

Can't wait to see what you do next.

And thank you for electrifying the entire country with your Arkansas baseball yesterday.

I appreciate you having me on here.

Just real quick, though, Gage.

What are you throwing here?

What are you throwing here, Bub?

Tell him about, talk about, talk about, talk about.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, fastball.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Bumpy.

That's a dinger.

Yeah.

Synya squaring that one up.

Yeah, right.

I'm getting bad wood on Gage Woods, ball, ladies and gentlemen.

Arkansas legend and a man who will be talked about forever at the College World Series.

Have you swung by Rocco's?

No, probably not.

Nutrition.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jell-O?

No Jell-O.

Skeens is in town.

You might want to ask him some stuff.

Yeah.

Will you talk?

Who are some pitchers?

Do you talk to pitchers?

That's a good question.

Do you have to talk to like

I know a couple guys that are in the big leagues from Arkansas, and I talked to them, but nah, I don't really talk to anyone other than them.

Respect.

do your thing good luck on it all ladies and gentlemen gage wood yay gay

yeah whenever he said 119 uh i heard him say hot then i saw a video down here of him giving the ball to his dad then i heard 119 because he said earlier it was really hot so i'm trying to stay on my hydration 119 i was out in arizona when last week or whatever it felt like it was 150 degrees i have no idea how it's starting to get there oh yeah we're starting to get there everywhere in the country these next few days here in indy thursday to sunday is basically 90s every day.

Dude, it's getting thick, too.

You know, it's getting thick.

That Omaha, that yesterday, that arc, that sums up, like, I think the College World Series.

Just so electric.

Like, the outing, the team, the player, the way he acted.

Like, you very rarely see baseball players doing the shit he was doing.

And that's one of the moments.

That's probably going to be the, I don't want to say it because there's still time for more moments, but that's going to be the one that is going to carry into next year's, you know,

marketing.

What a moment.

I mean, that was beautiful in Omaha over there.

Yeah, without a doubt.

I mean, that was an in an elimination game too.

That's what's kind of gotten lost in all this is like they had to win and he threw the best game in the college world series in the last like 60 years.

And it was I mean it's it like his

obviously he he made a shitload of money yesterday.

Yeah Jack said that as well.

I mean he he was going to get drafted high no matter what.

I mean he was he was touching you know 98 99 with his fastball day.

On the 109th pitch.

Yeah exactly.

So like but to go out and just thoroughly dominate like that, like I said, like, no-hitters are

crazy impressive, obviously.

That's why, you know, it happens so little.

But to throw a no-hitter and striking out 19 guys, I mean, just like the law of percentages.

Like, these guys have seen him time and time again, and you'd think a couple of these guys would be able to get a beat.

And he was just, he was unhittable.

Clearly.

Perfect game, though, puts him in untouchable status.

Is that why?

Yeah, yeah, without a doubt.

But, I mean,

no, no, still insane.

Yes.

And again, like I said, the 19 strikeouts, in my opinion, is the, by far, the most impressive part of this.

I guess there was a 20-strikeout game that had 15 innings in it, though.

Correct.

It was extra innings.

So somebody continued.

So there's like a clause, a couple of them that can't be considered this, whatever.

In a nine-inning game, 19 strikeouts, absolutely absurd.

Yeah.

And I like that he knew it.

Like, I like that he was walking out there with conviction.

I wish more pitchers would do that.

Remember there was a time a couple years ago where the batters started flipping the bats more and the pitchers were getting pissed off because it was like the transition era of the batters starting to celebrate more.

And we started seeing like some real heat between the pitchers and the batters.

I like that.

Oh, yeah.

I love it.

I like there to be a little because we're trying to beat.

Like this is this is the actual game, right?

This is the whole fucking game.

I'm trying to beat you.

You're trying to beat me.

So I like whenever there's somebody that's a little bit outside of what I normally see and then show up for it.

Like him completing that game.

Good work, dude.

And then his dad and his mom, I've I've seen him the entire time.

I didn't even see the baseball toss to him.

Like that had to be so emotional.

He was talking about his parents crying.

It's like, I could see why.

Hey, that's a Father's Day.

Yes.

So what a great Father's Day gift.

Hell yeah.

Let's see.

JJ Spawn had quite a Father's Day.

Yes, he did.

He'll join us in about 40 minutes.

So can we chit-chat with him?

Let's go to some NFL news that has happened around the league.

Let's start right here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Anthony Richardson's shoulder is going to be okay.

Just needs some rest.

Obviously felt some soreness, I believe, in his shoulder.

Got checked out, I assume, by the Colts doctors.

They said we're not seeing anything that would require surgery.

Gets a second opinion from Dr.

Neil Elatrosh, who's out there in Southern California.

He is a noted surgeon.

I think he's got the

shoulders, knees, Achilles, and toes.

Yep, Achilles and toes.

I think the shoulders, hips, maybe even, and Achilles and toes.

Achilles.

That's what Dr.

Neil Elatrosh is the expert in.

All over.

Everything.

He does the whole body.

Did his shoulder surgery.

I guess gets a second opinion from Dr.

Neil Eletrosh.

He says there's no further surgery that's required in his eyes, just some rest and recovery.

So that's good news for Anthony Richardson being healthy going into camp.

Does worry me a little bit, though, that we missed out on a bunch of reps in practice for something that doesn't require surgery.

So

I'm still torn on how this is going to go, but I'm pulling for the young guy to find his best ball by the time training camp starts debunking.

Yeah, you're in in a quarterback competition.

You obviously do not want to miss reps at this point in the season, but you know, I guess he's been extremely cautious.

So got five weeks or so before they show up to training camp.

And hopefully he's full goal, 100%, because health obviously has been a huge issue for him in reps.

I mean, you talk about all the way from the high school level.

That's kind of been the story about Anthony Richardson.

Can he stay healthy?

He's been supernaturally good.

More football, yeah, I mean, and that's that's why you get drafted, you know, number four overall.

But we all know, you know, you can only ride that wave so long.

You got to get out there and produce.

And they brought in the guy.

They paid a guy, Daniel Jones, to come in and compete.

And he's been getting the reps.

I had a chance to catch up with head coach Shane Steichen yesterday and some of the other coach.

They're pretty excited about how things are going up to this point.

I'm sure most programs are.

So I'm optimistic about the boys as well.

Could you imagine if he would have said, I hated the work we got done.

It's rough.

I don't like where we're at.

Don't like where we're at one bit.

Vibes were high, man.

Tyler Warren had eyes on him.

I know we saw him play against Notre Dame.

Yeah.

Yeah, Orange Bowl and

big son page.

He's big.

I can't wait to see him in the coach.

Daniel Jones is gigantic.

Anthony Richardson is gigantic.

They've got a lot of guys that can move that are gigantic.

What's that?

Pitt's big.

Yeah, Pittman Jr.

is big.

Got a big team that can move.

Hopefully this year we're able to win some games.

Steelers and Deshaun Elliott have agreed on a two-year, $12.5 million extension with $9.21 million in guarantees.

Seemed like this was an overwhelmingly positive signing in the eyes of Jinsers and Steelers fans and also football people alike.

Now, the TJ Watt deal still sitting out there.

When will that get sorted?

We shall see.

Missed mandatory minicamp waiting for a new contract.

Everybody's just assumed that was going to take place.

In the meantime, Steelers signed Deshaun Elliott.

Did we know this was happening?

Did we know negotiations were taking place?

I did not.

He came in last year as a free agent and exceeded everyone's expectations.

He was really good for the Dolphins, but he was awesome last year for the Steelers playing in the secondary all season long.

Debuts, good player here.

Very good player.

9.21 million in guaranteed.

Yes, very good player.

Got him at a very good value if you're Pittsburgh.

And the thing I've heard about Deshaun Elliott is he is a brilliant football player.

So that's what you need, especially Steelers who had some big issues coverage-wise late in the season.

So hopefully, you know, bringing him back will be a big deal.

Minka needs a big bounce back year, in my opinion.

Excited for the Steelers.

A lot of storylines around it.

Will TJ Watt be there when China Camp starts?

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Score are happening all around us.

We're incredibly lucky for that.

The NBA Finals is now with a 3-2 series

score.

However, the Oklahoma City Thunder get a massive win over the Indiana Pacers last night in Oklahoma City, where they had a bunch of smackers and clappers and they were loud.

And the Oklahoma City Thunder fanbase certainly lived up to its hype of being Loud Ton or La City.

I forget what it is, Laud Ton, maybe?

Laud Tan.

Laud Tan.

La Tan.

Laud Tan?

They call it Laud Tan because they're Laud Down there.

And those little smackers and clappers are certainly Loud.

And the way that these boys were playing was certainly something to cheer for.

Not only Shay and Jalen, but Chet Hartenstein, the entire crew with a Daggs-led mastermind plan to make more shots than the Pacers last night.

Pacers were fluffsters.

The Pacers were out of sorts.

Tyrese Halliburton ended up either re-aggravating an injury or hurting himself again, depending upon if it was like, that is outrageous.

That is outrageous what's going on.

And it was like that all night for this unbelievable Oklahoma City team.

Now, I've obviously had my bias towards the Indiana Pacers team.

I would like to see the Indiana Pacers win the title.

I would enjoy having a parade right here in beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana.

This place has been yearning for it.

The Pacers have never won.

An NBA title.

You think about Reggie Miller, you think about all the magical moments of the Indiana Pacers.

You think about how the city views the Indiana Pacers as the team that represented the city for a long time.

They've never won a title.

If they were to win one, this state would be upside down.

It'd be a wonderful thing.

And the way this team plays, it'd be beloved forever.

But they've run into a team in Oklahoma City that has the same exact narrative, the same exact mantra, the same exact motivation.

A small town that loves their teams never won, and now they got the guy.

That place was upside down.

And the Thunder never relented.

And they just beat the hell out of the Pacers on a Monday night.

And now it's 3-2 coming back to Indianapolis on Thursday.

Gainbridge Fieldhouse will be rocking.

And that MVP of the NBA could hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy right here on Thursday night.

But if I know tricky Ricky Carlisle

and that Pacers team, they're going to show up and they're going to extend this thing to seven.

And then whenever it gets to seven, they're going to say, you thought we were dead.

And then the NBA is going to say, thank God this went to a seven-game series.

We love an extended series.

If this was just a blowout like everybody was calling for for Oklahoma City at the beginning of this series, that'd be a waste for everybody.

This is the right matchup.

These are the two best teams.

And maybe the Pacers go on to win this thing in seven.

Well, maybe.

There is a chance, though, that they lose on Thursday.

Sure.

There's a chance they would lose game seven.

But nonetheless, every game has had a point where both teams could have won.

Even though it looked like, and it felt like they were down 30 points, they were still in it.

the entire time.

Tyrese, we need an update on that injury.

Rick Carlisle needs to make sure he lets TJ McConnell run wild.

If TJ McConnell wants to run wild, he's running wild.

Kind of let him do his thing and the boys will figure it out.

Great series.

It's 3-2.

Caruso's outrageous right now.

And this Oklahoma City Thunder team is looking to be historic.

The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

What is that?

This is the New York Atlas of the PLL.

You know, it's one of those weird things where it's hot and muggy outside, and we do keep it a little little cool in here.

I was nipping out a little bit this morning, and I was just like, you know what?

This kind of doesn't feel the best, so I'm going to go into the locker room and just see what I can find.

And will and behold, I got this bowl just staring at me.

And I said, all right, fuck it.

I'll wear that.

So, New York Atlas.

Go Atlas.

Go get it.

Go Atlas.

Go Atlas.

A little cool.

You know, I typically

enjoy keeping it cold.

Me too.

It has been so cold in this.

I've never, I've never had any experience like it.

You know, my feet are cold.

Like, I understand if people's hands or nose or ears get cold.

I have socks and shoes on, and my feet are cold.

So, I forget at one point or during this

right now?

Right now, as we speak to you, my there's what, like, two days, maybe yesterday.

It was a little chilly at one point.

I actually went over and looked.

I'm like, here's a little chilly in here.

It is a little chilly.

You did it?

Today, yeah.

I felt it.

That's when you know it's.

Well, it really hits you in the face when, when like you go get your food and it's like I'm wearing this and it's just like immediately I start sweating and it's like 88 degrees out there and you walk

exactly and then you're all wet and and then boom, you know, you come back in here and it's a it's a brisk 55 degrees and it just immediately, you know, freezes on you.

I will say the AC works.

It works.

It works.

It certainly does.

All 10 of them.

Chuck Pogano.

Yeah.

Hey, whoever did the air conditioning, they know what they're doing.

Got two jackets on.

Like to keep it chill, you know, like keep it alive a little bit out here.

It has been working really well, though.

We got them cleaned and everything this particular year, so we can make sure it's colder.

Yep, keep it alive.

We'll try to warm it up.

Yeah.

Morgs are cold, actually.

Yeah.

I went to a Letterman show one time in New York.

I run hot.

I like it cold.

It is a constant, you know, conversation at the house.

I think it's easier,

you know, to put clothes on than if you just true.

You know, I without I like it cold too.

Yeah, I completely agree.

Yeah.

yeah it's 55 fucking degrees

i sleep i sleep in 65 degree weather i enjoy the cold it's not 55 it's 67 it's not it's 67 that thing hasn't told the truth okay all i could go off of is the things that are supposed to tell me the temperature that thing is 67 degrees this one over here says it as well but yesterday was a little chilly today it feels good i know you guys are feeling cold today no no i don't know

today you're talking about your toes being cold dude i know that's real cold It's like you're on a crick.

I got real socks on, too.

Like, I got MIT.

He's got cool socks on.

It's no joke, man.

What's perfect temperature?

What would you guys like?

Those, the

thermometers, what would you like to do?

Oh, no, like you said, because

I'll throw a New York Atlas sweatshirt on.

Because I agree, though, the last thing I want or...

is yeah when it's 85 out here and you walk in here and it's like it's 78 degrees for sure can't happen this dog will not hunt.

The issue is when there's no sun.

Yeah.

So, when there's no sun, the sun is the thing that heats up the house, you know, with the windows.

But when there's no sun and it's hot outside, then you got a problem.

It's not dealing with shade.

Yes, exactly.

So now we're in that balancing figuring out, plus, big area here.

So it's a tidal wave of change.

We'll warm it up for you.

No, no, no, yeah.

Hey, listen to it.

No, no, see, no, okay.

Hold on.

We'll warm up.

You're doing this thing.

You're not doing this thing.

No, we'll, we'll.

No, no, no.

I would rather it be like this, too.

But I mean, I don't want to.

Didn't we have a heated blanket for somebody at one point?

No, we have the Safe Light Auto Glass.

Yeah, I think the

blanket was to be a good one.

I think there was a heated blanket.

I think there was a, remember, there's an older.

I used to have a heating pad for my keyboard in the old office.

No, back in the truck.

It was offered in the truck.

It was never used.

I almost blew a gasket.

That's right.

Yeah, golf uses a heated blanket.

Yeah, I forgot about that.

I know.

A bump of blankets.

Well, warm enough.

What's it actually set to?

I think it's 67.

Okay.

Yeah, but I remember also when it was hot in here and it was a nightmare and it said 67 on there.

So I know that.

I'm thinking we got a thermometer problem.

I think

the thermometer might be.

Yeah, if we clean the HC.

Because I keep my house at 67.

It ain't 67 in here.

It has been colder.

My fingers get really cold in the morning.

His fingies hurt.

And you know how big of a bummer it is to agree with Foxy on this?

It's a bummer.

It's a bummer to agree with the guy that's.

This is a a big office combo.

This has been years in the making here, you know, because the old office used to be able to get a little chilly.

Oh, yeah.

Used to be able to try to turn that thing down a little bit.

But with the way it was built, it's up all these open-air things.

All right, Connor, you know what?

I'm going to say the old office got way colder.

Like, this is like perfect.

Yeah, old office, we had exposed brick and pipes.

We were watching people's poop go through the pipes in the old office.

And look, I'm not the one.

Don't say, okay, Connor,

for you, we're going to turn it down.

Okay, don't do that.

I agree.

I like it cold.

Why don't you take Commander Supreme, Supreme Commander of the Temperature Internet?

No, no, no.

You are the Supreme Commander of the Thunderdome.

No, not at the temperature.

I would like you to become...

It says 67.

We just got a picture from a Honeywell home right there on the brick.

Good angle, 67.

67.

Who took this photo?

Who took this photo?

Bruce.

Yeah, Bruce, if we get a little bit more of a downward angle on it, get a little bit more.

Make sure the lights are completely glaring.

There was a reflection problem, so I didn't want my fingies all over it, all over the screen, so I went with the angle.

67, 67.

No, I know, and it goes to conversation that we just had about how, like, yep, it can say 67, but it's not, you know, the exact truth.

Look.

I think you should think.

Why don't you manage this?

Why don't you just take a look around, okay?

Okay.

Tony's wearing a t-shirt.

Yeah, and he did it on purpose today.

I know he did.

I know Tony came up here with us, had a structured on all morning and said, for some reason, I think it's going to happen today, and took it off.

And then you should go to the back room, too, if you want them, real quick, Foxy.

Just a lot of long sleeves.

Foxy, what's Foxy wearing?

Yeah, always wearing short sleeves.

We got some tumblers.

It's colder in here, though.

We got some agros.

It's warmer, boys, in the agros today.

And I know people don't want to grind your gears being wusses wearing long sleeves.

But at some point, I looked at myself in the mirror and said, what?

Am I not a man?

If I feel cold, does that make me not a man?

I would not feel that way, by the way.

I think it's a good conversation to have.

but I don't think today is the day.

Zito, you know, today feels perfect.

Today is the day.

Absolutely perfect.

I'm wearing shorts right now.

No, great.

I don't go outside and back in.

The outside, back to inside.

I've yet to do it.

It kills you.

That is the time.

I don't go outside anymore until after the show.

Yeah, because if you go out there and then you come back in, you get frosted a little bit.

Yeah, you do get frosty.

You probably plug our air conditioner to the gazebo out there.

Nine-year NFL veteran shaped all of them.

50 bucks.

D-Bucks will wear a hoodie when it's 85 degrees.

That's true.

I'm a hoodie guy.

Yeah, but that time in Tampa, it was 102.

That was crazy.

And you had a hoodie on.

That was when I decided, okay,

never listening to this guy on If It's Hard or Cold.

I wore a t-shirt in here a couple weeks ago.

Yeah.

All right, we got to fix that.

Joining us down live from an attic in Ohio, which I assume is properly temperatured.

Ladies and gentlemen, don't do this.

Don't do the whole properly temperatured shit.

It feels okay.

I like it in here.

It's good.

We all do.

The air conditioning works.

But yeah, I mean, it's just, it's.

So maybe we go up to 68 on that thing.

But that's the thing

is, we're going to need this in two weeks.

We're just talking about how we're going to get, we're going to have mid-90s days.

And then we're going to need this.

Yeah.

It's just these days where it's 76 and the sun's not out, you know, but you still go out there and it's joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who probably has a hoodie on his head, I guess, over there.

Black shirt of some sort.

Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ride-A-Cup winner, AJ Hawk.

Yeah, I'll show you.

AJ, 67, I guess, a little chilly in here.

I guess it's a little chilly.

67 is a great, like, you know, I can sleep at 65.

I mean, just try one.

Go up to 68 and see how it's not.

We're going to go to 68.

I think we're going to try 67.

Hit the thermometer.

Have Mitt walk around with the thermometer and try to gauge the temperature inside.

Honeywell's full of shit.

What?

Yeah, they are.

If we can't trust Honeywell, whom

can we trust?

Remember, that thing was reset to 80 every night.

That was a problem.

That was a real problem.

And I make sure we never had that again because I was about sick of walking into 83 degrees here.

But whatever the actual temperature is, even if it's wrong, if we go up one, you would think even the fake temperature would go up one.

True.

Right?

Yeah, I don't know.

You got to find our median.

We'll go to 68.

No, I think we're good at 67.

Don't fuck.

You just did a whole bunch of things.

No, I just said it was cold, but I would rather it this way.

No, but 68 might be the perfect temperature.

You said your little Tootsie were freezing in your socks.

Yeah, you said you're inipping a little bit.

You did say your little Tootsies were freezing.

My Tootsies are not freezing.

freezing.

I said they were cold.

Okay.

My fingers are definitely.

They were freezing.

I would say turn it up.

What's that, Foxy?

I said, my fingers definitely have been cold, abnormally cold these days.

Yeah, but remember, Foxy came into this game using a heater for his fingies.

Well, I'm always typing and mousing, and then I noticed like, oh, I'm getting carpal tunnel right now because I'm going from warm to cold, and it's not good.

I'd rather my Tootsies be cold than my socks be sweaty.

Okay.

So it has nothing to do with

my point.

I've had wet socks one time in my life.

You're right.

One

All right, let's talk about a few things happening.

We'll go to 68.

Don't go to 68.

Don't do that.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who grew up in a much different city than all of us.

I believe he's a New Yorker through and through.

We'll get his take on this.

He has kids.

He's obviously an Emmy Award-winning TV host, ladies and gentlemen.

Friend of the program, ESPN insider analyst and pundit for the NFL.

Peter Schrager.

Yeah.

Shrikes, 67 degrees is what the thermometer is saying here at the Thunderdome.

The boys don't believe it.

They say it's much colder.

That's a hard thing to see there because we didn't want Fingies in the photo, allegedly, but that says 67.

And then on the right side, it says set to 67.

What temperature is the Shraig's house if you were to be the one setting it?

Great picture by Bruce there.

I would say that

first thing, first thing I do when I walk into a hotel room, and I've been in several, and this is not going to get weird, I promise.

First thing I do is I turn that air conditioning to 60 degrees.

I freeze that thing out completely.

I rip off the top covers of whatever bed and whatever we have linens-wise, and I'm at home.

But if I had my choice, we are at 60 degrees.

We are freezing the place out.

Unfortunately, Con Edison, the New York electricity bill goes up very high.

It's too expensive in New York to do that.

So we're usually at a solid 68.

I think where you're at is about right.

Okay, so we'll go up 68 because Shrag says smart thing Con Edison.

Yeah, that's what we'll go to 68.

Come on.

Maybe we'll have some t-shirts.

Don't go up.

T-shirts will be fun to see.

Don't go up.

I mean, Tony's wearing one.

Foxy's wearing one.

Yeah.

Gumpy's wearing one up.

I have one on.

Yeah.

And like I said, tough, tough cusses in here.

But again.

All right, let's talk sports.

Deshaun Elliott and Pittsburgh Steelers get a deal done.

TJ Watt, still without a deal.

Trey Hendrickson contracts have, or negotiations have

regained some momentum.

Who knows if they're positive or negative which one gets done first you think tj watt trey hendrickson do you think it's about the same time

i think tj watt i feel like i know both sides are really motivated to get something done here they don't want to go into training camp and have this thing drag on the rogers domino fell deshaun elliott's a nice player to have but this was always going to be let's get rogers in camp and i think the tj watt deal has to get done now from what i'm told Both sides want it to get done, obviously.

TJ Watt's going to want a certain amount of money.

Question is, is it a game of chicken where it's, it's, okay, TJ Watt takes a deal that the Steelers offer, and then a week later, Micah Parsons blows his deal out of the water and we're in the same place that we were beforehand.

So it's always interesting to see when you're talking top of the market guys, who is going to take that offer first, who's motivated to get it done first, and who's willing to wait it out.

Often we deal with the quarterbacks this way, but now with the pass rushers and what Miles Garrett and Max Crosby got this season, you're dealing with TJ Watt and Micah Parsons, who both believe they should be top of the market too.

Who gets their deal first?

Who agrees to a deal first?

Could be really a game of chicken between those two guys more so than the team versus player.

Okay, so you say TJ Watt, you think is that answer?

Let's stay with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Tone has a question for you, Shraigs.

Yeah, Shrags, how come?

When we're watching TV, you're the only one on TV that is positive about Aaron Rodgers going to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

And everyone else said, you know, he's not even going to be a football player by Thanksgiving.

What?

God forbid.

God forbid that you could have some positive talk in June about Aaron Rodgers.

I know everyone's got their issues with the guy and they didn't like the fact they had to talk talk about him in March, April, and May before he was with a team, but guess what?

He didn't miss that much.

He really didn't.

And I tried stressing this on both GetUp and on your show last week.

Arthur Smith is a smart guy.

Arthur Smith built an offense that could operate if it was with Aaron Rodgers and then built an offense that could operate on paper when they were out with Aaron Rodgers.

It wasn't like he was caught off guard when last week Aaron Rodgers decided to finally sign.

It's like, oh no, what do I do?

I had built the Milson, the Mason Rudolph offense.

What am I?

This thing was fully on paper and fully ready to go.

And Rodgers, of course, you heard Mark yesterday talk on your show and talk on the podcast that like, of course, the players come under his wing and they want to be with Aaron Rodgers and he's got this great charisma.

Like it's okay to be positive about this possibility and realize that this is a different situation.

than it was in New York.

I'm talking, I've got that cadence like I'm Shepherd public hearing right now.

I didn't know where that came from.

It's different than what it was in New York, where he's not coming aboard a team and it's like, you're fully the one who's got to galvanize everyone, hire our coaching staff, figure out the wide receivers room, take the guys to Broadway, take Stoss Gardner to Carbone.

Like he's going to play football.

He's got a one-year deal, Pat.

And he's got a one-year deal with a bunch of motivated veterans.

To me, this is the best situation that Pittsburgh's been in in years.

And these guys are going to galvanize and they will rally around Aaron Rodgers.

So to say that they've got Super Bowl expectations and I had people rolling their eyes on set with me when I said it, they didn't go and pay DK Metkeff $30 million to not have Super Bowl expectations.

They didn't go and sign Aaron Rodgers at 41 years old and wait, sit on their hands all summer to do this to not have Super Bowl expectations.

This is the Pittsburgh Steelers and they think that these moves make them better than last year.

If I came on TV and I'm like, they believe they could be a wild card team and they're going to be eliminated in the first round.

That's nothing.

That's not what they believe.

So do I think they're going to win the Super Bowl?

I haven't made my prediction yet.

But I'll say this.

Tone wants to know.

They believe internally they're in a lot better place right now than they were a year ago.

Tone, as you were saying, all this thing was his cowboy hat was just going like this over in the corner as you were saying, we can win a Super Bowl.

We're in a better position than we've been in.

And you talking about, if I was to go on and say, we're going to win the wild card.

Cam Hayward, all the boys that we saw at the Jelly Roll Post Malone concert, that's not how they're viewing it.

That is not how they feel at all.

And they don't think it's fair to view them that way with how much success they've had, with how little production from an offensive standpoint they've had over the last few years.

Now, Russell Wilson had a good run, like four or five weeks, six weeks, where they thought.

Then it petered out.

It petered out.

It did.

And like Fields, if, and everyone's like, well, they really wanted Fields.

They really wanted Fields that would have paid Fields big money.

Okay.

That was my take on that whole thing.

I think a lot of the other insiders like...

20 million a per, I think, right?

They really wanted Stafford.

Well, Stafford wasn't going.

So

it was the Rams wanted to retain Stafford.

They had to figure that out.

And Sean and Stafford had multiple meetings to work their stuff out.

And that got done.

So they didn't really want Fields.

If they really wanted Fields, you give them $40 million and we're there.

They didn't.

They didn't offer him that.

Now, did Justin Fields have other options and choose the Jets over the Steelers?

Yes, that's fair.

That said, Aaron Rodgers at $10 million a year with incentives that can get him to 20.

It's a great value.

And you're rolling the dice and saying, we're sick of being mediocre.

This guy might take us over the top.

I understand there's a lot of personal feelings towards Aaron Rodgers out there, and I don't play.

That's why I see he's amiized.

Yeah, that's why he really kicked into full speed.

I guess.

But I don't know if I go to ESPN and NFL Network and Fox Sports One to hear people's thoughts on that anyway.

So I'm just looking at the football stuff and I'm like, he makes them better, you know?

Amen.

Yeah, it's been a wild ride getting a chance to experience the Aaron Rodgers experience over the last five years, just because everything he does, everything,

literally everything he does.

if he's going shopping and there's a photo of him boom everybody's got an opinion some people's opinion is i don't care he wants shopping but did look at photo of him shopping did form an opinion of him shopping and then don't care if he wants shopping uh i'm on tv i'm sick of talking about aaron rogers well why are you doing it then you know don't have to why that's the best why you're on tv being paid to talk about it and then you say to the camera like hey viewer i'm sick of talking about it no you're not no you're not yeah that's why you're doing it it.

And the people that are controlling what you talk about are doing it for a reason.

It's like, this dude is a talking point.

And I think Pittsburgh is a good home for him.

I think the Pittsburgh Steelers fans, just like I said for Russell Wilson, like if Russell Wilson would have won for Pittsburgh, Yensers would have won the bat for all the shit that Russell Wilson did.

Just like Aaron, Aaron wins in Pittsburgh, the Yensers will

throw some people in the mash.

Oh, we'll throw a couple people in the mosh.

Yeah, for you forever.

And it's like,

why not?

Good luck.

Okay, let's move to another football program that's going through.

A big-time star not being, you know, present.

Go ahead, Debutch.

Yeah, program with a Super Bowl, I guess a real Super Bowl expectations coming off an NFC championship appearance.

Young superstar quarterback, new front office.

The Washington Commanders haven't taken care and locked up Terry McLaurin, their superstar wide receiver coming off a career year.

What is going on there?

Do you expect this to get done before training camp and before the season gets kicked off?

Yeah, look, all the vibes out of Washington has been incredible this offseason.

The only fly in the ointment has been this deal here.

And I will tell you that they are motivated to get it done.

I know this is, this sounds like what we say at every time with all these star players, but like Terry knows this is his window.

His agent is thinking this is when we can get him paid because this team is a rising tide and he is the leader in that locker room and is the veteran guy that has done everything right every step of the way.

Adam Peters comes from the 49ers organization, brought in Debo Samuel, made a big trade to get Laramie Tunzel.

I would be shocked if we're getting into training camp and Terry McLaurin is holding out and taking punitive fines for not being there.

This is a guy they want to pay, guy who stepped up and has been the great bridge in between the down days of Dan Snyder and Ron Rivera at times to the high and mighty Dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsbury, high-powered offense.

This is the one guy at a skilled position who has been there for all of it and is truly the leader in the locker room.

So he deserves to get paid.

I don't know the number right now, but I believe that they will find a way to get this done.

They don't want to lose Terry McLaurin and they certainly don't want to trade trade him.

Yeah, certainly not in Jaden's second year, especially with the connection that they have.

It needs to be at least mid-30s, in my opinion.

Chase got 40.

CD got, what, 36?

Justin Jefferson got 35.

DK got 30.

30.

Okay, yeah, it needs to be.

You put him in that conversation?

I'm curious.

1,000%.

Terry?

Yeah.

Scary Terry?

Yeah.

Especially going into the second year with a young stud at quarterback.

How about you, Strikes?

I do know.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Let's hear it.

You do the scale.

You do the scale and it's like, you've got your Jamar chases where it's like, all right, he's probably not in that conversation.

But when you do mention those veteran guys who have gotten out their third deals, a DK Metcalf, and you mentioned some of these other guys, T.

Higgins got his first big deal here.

You don't think of him as this big physical presence yet.

All he does.

is produce.

And because he was a third round pick, I think that's kind of the sting on him a little bit where people say, yeah, he's overachieved.

Well, overachieved compared to what?

AJ Hawk knows that Ohio State, this guy was the dude and was fantastic.

He just fell in the draft and then has exceeded all expectations based on his draft stock.

So I am the biggest Terry McLaurin fan and I know the voice he has in that room.

And I know as an Indianapolis native, you guys respect what he's done as well.

Yeah, we thought he was maybe going to get traded back to Indy.

There was a little conversation maybe last year or two years ago where he was potentially going to leave the Washington football team or I forget what their name was at the time.

Maybe they were already the commanders where he was potentially going to be traded.

or something.

It's like, bring him back to Indy.

We would love to have a Terry McLaurin.

I think that's when I really started paying attention and looking into everything he's a monster for them yeah he's their leader too so it's like i assume that that will get done uh i think we all assume these types of deals will get done uh third-round pick being a guy is a beautiful story there was a third-round pick a quarterback for the cleveland browns what was his name dylan gabriel boom is he gonna be a starting quarterback we have no idea go ahead aj

Yeah, Shregs, we hear that they might, this Browns team might carry four quarterbacks on their roster.

At least they're floating that idea, I guess.

What do you think truly does happen in their 53 uh man opening date roster and are they looking to potentially trade one of these guys i'd be surprised and the two guys that i would look at is flacco and pickett now they were aggressive in getting joe flacco as a free agent quarterback brought him back obviously he has a great relationship with stefansky two of them had great success two years ago when he was the comeback player of the year but they also acquired kenny pickett i would be surprised personally if both of those veteran quarterbacks are still on the roster come week one and you have the two rookies usually in a situation like this just covering the league a while like I have, you have the two veterans go at it.

One of those guys is your veteran, and then you probably keep both rookies and you dress maybe one of them.

And you've got Flacco as your starter week one, Shador or Gabriel as your backup, then you got one who's not at, not active, not dressed, but is obviously still on the team.

So it would be surprising with the Cleveland Browns if they kept four quarterbacks.

I do know that this year.

is going to be very important for Shador and Dylan Gabriel.

And the reason is they're both third round and fifth round picks.

And if you remember, when we were sitting together at the draft, Cleveland traded back and acquired Jacksonville's first round pick and their own first round pick.

When you have two first round picks of teams that

quarterback is always going to be looming in every conversation.

So I think they're going to want to get those guys action, Gabriel and Sanders.

I think they're going to want to have one veteran quarterback.

I don't know if there's a value in having both of those veteran quarterbacks and then having two rookies on the roster as well.

Cleveland Browns are in quite a a situation, and they're paying quarterbacks more than anybody else in the NFL.

And the quarterback.

The one guy I didn't even mention.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't even know if he's in the is he in the building?

He's not even.

No, no.

Probably is.

I haven't heard his name.

We know who QB1 is going to be in Cleveland.

Who's that?

We know.

They traded for Kenny, so him.

It'll be 20.

Hey, I love Dylan Gabriel.

I love Pickett.

I love Flacco.

Oh, it's going to be.

Day one.

Day one.

No, by week eight, Shadura Sanders will be.

Judging by the date, that sounds right.

Judging by the ESPN.

I mean, you know, I follow, I'm doubting the ESPN in Cleveland, so I'm watching this.

I don't know what the hell those DPs are.

16 of 18.

Yeah, I think I only saw one interception from all the quarterbacks.

I don't know what John Wart and the boys are doing over there.

Be careful.

Be careful.

I'm reading his leaves.

I'm watching.

What are you talking about, Shranks?

16 of 19.

Jackson Dart

threw three touchdowns today.

Be careful.

Never going to happen.

Not throwing them.

Yeah, it is a lot better than not throwing them.

Good call, AJ.

I get it.

James threw 10.

I've never, I've never, and I I respect the hell out of all the beat reporters but I don't remember us ever charting June mini camp be a pro passing staff

that's attention to detail this is what football knowledge is talking to

with that being said I see some balls coming out of Shadore Sanders at that camp and I'm like

kind of looks like a guy yeah I'm reading he can sling it

I see him you know some of the veterans how they talk to him mic'd up see what he's doing in the community talking about Njoku there Njoku Mike Neb yeah you you once you see you know different little interactions and things like that,

well, I know he has the talent.

We'll see.

It'll be a competition that usually brings the best out of guys, especially young guys.

So I'm interested to see how that quarterback situation works.

I've heard he's been outstanding in the building.

And I don't know.

There was never a, no one thought he was this like...

malcontent or like a bag it wasn't that was the word

that was kind of what was the word that was kind of no no no the pre-draft process was so unorthodox that he didn't go through it all like everyone else did and i think there's a lot that we can look back on on this thing, especially if he becomes a star in this league and say, you could point fingers in a million ways, not having a pure agent, not having,

you know, the workouts that everyone else did, you know, going to these teams, not necessarily being as willing to throw the ball when asked at these all-star games, like that kind of stuff, I think, might have stung him.

It might have turned teams off.

But at no point did anyone say he's a bad kid or that he wasn't going to get along with veterans and come, I mean, this is a guy who has been training to be a professional football player since the day he was born and is ready for this moment.

I listened to Coach Prime give some motivational message.

And I was like, I need to hear, it was some video.

I don't know when he said it.

It could have been throughout the last 20 years.

It was some motivational speech about, you know, like blocking out the noise, keep moving, keep walking forward.

Somebody posted it in one of their Instagram slides.

I enjoy people that really take the time to put picture of their life obscure, weird other picture, motivational message, weird picture, video.

And then there's like a wrap-up thing at the end, you know, how how we tie these all together.

I don't know.

I just went for a ride here through these swipes.

And then there was a Deion Sanders Coach Prime speech that he gave at a press conference.

I think he was sitting up there.

And I heard it.

I was like, needed to hear that.

Appreciate you, Prime.

That just kind of kept him moving.

And I'm like,

I was in the middle of my house.

I think I was walking to my bedroom.

It was like

last night.

I stopped in the middle of it.

I was like, Shador's been hearing that his whole life.

Shador's been hearing these messages his entire life.

Feels like he would be prepared for basically any situation mentally.

You would think that.

Now, once you experience it, it's obviously different.

But I think listening to Coach Prime say, like, this is Shador Sanders we're talking about here.

Whenever people were asking a lot of questions, it's like he was saying, you don't think that I've taught him how to be a professional?

That's basically what you're saying.

I'm intrigued to see how it works out.

Dylan Gabriel, not talked about at all.

Third round pick, drafted ahead of Shador Sanders.

Kenny Pickett, last guy to touch the ball in the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Hey, was.

And Joey Flacco, last guy to take the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs.

Joey Flacco.

A lot of storylines obviously developing.

Go ahead, Con man.

Yeah, it's still Cleveland, so who cares?

Jeez.

Trake.

The Shamar Stewart situation has continued on.

I'm not sure if we have talked about it since the last update.

He has left the Bengals camp, I believe.

There were some weird situations that looked like certain videos, they weren't giving him water, but kind of questionable there.

Have you seen a situation like this with Shamar Stewart being a rookie, being a 17th overall pick, you know, not being a top three guy like the Bosas that we've talked about before, but being a 17th pick where he's coming in, the Bengals are trying to slide in a first time ever clause that they've used.

I know people are talking about the chance, if this is to continue on, that Shamar Stewart goes back to the draft next year.

Is that something you can actually foresee happening, or do you think this inevitably gets figured out?

And how often does this happen where teams will try and slide in something for the first time ever to not screw over a player, but try and change the kind of contracts they give rookies for years in the future.

We've seen rookie holdouts throughout NFL history, but since the new CBA was signed, it's an anomaly because you're basically slotted in where you go.

If you're the 17th pick, this is what you get.

If you're the 18th pick, this is what you get.

It is what it is.

You're always going to make more than the 18th and 19th pick, whatever.

In this case, it's a very Bengals-specific situation in that last year they had an 18th overall pick, and the year before that, they had a 28th overall pick.

and those two players did not have that clause in this contract.

Other teams have it.

The Bengals have not.

So the agent who's a young man named Zach Hiller, Zach is in his 20s.

He's a young agent who's got a good little client base right now and he's going up against some of the Titans of the industry as far as agents go.

And he's looking at this and he's talking to his client who is 21 years old and he's saying to this young man, hey, Jamar Chase just signed a deal with them and they didn't put this clause in his contract.

T.

Higgins just signed a deal with them a couple months ago.

They didn't put this clause in his contract.

The last two draft picks that were first-round picks by this team did not have it.

So you're the first.

You don't have to sign anything.

You can stand on merit and stand on the fact that you don't feel comfortable signing this just in case something went catastrophically wrong.

You wouldn't get guarantees in the future.

You can stand on it.

And now as a 21-year-old who is a man who has his own wallet to protect, not worry about the agent.

The agent's not speaking for him.

Shamar Stewart believes this is his fight that he wants to fight.

And I think that threw off a lot of people around the league.

It throws off the Bengals, obviously.

They weren't expecting it and we're at a standstill right now.

But if you look at it, why should I be the guinea pig?

Why should I be the first?

I would also say this, if they do sign Trey Hendrickson and they don't have this clause in the contract, I think that adds fuel to the fire.

And so, oh, wait, what's going on here?

Why is it this guy?

Why am I as my client?

Why am I the one?

So it's interesting.

I think Mike Florio had a really good article earlier this week on it where Mike said basically he can go back in the draft, but he would give up so much money and risk so much money that is guaranteed his way if he were to do this.

It would be a year away from football.

He would have to have the faith that someone's going to take him earlier.

And at that point, this is a small little note in a contract that includes millions and millions of dollars that are coming his way.

Is he really willing to sacrifice it to fight and die on this hill?

I don't know about that.

We shall see.

Will the Cincinnati Bengals continue to fight?

We shall see.

And hopefully by training camp, all of it is settled.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Shrags, for joining us on this glorious Tuesday.

You're the man.

You're the best, real quick.

Everyone's in con and enjoying.

I like you guys are in the studio.

You're working.

You're doing the job.

And you're not flexing on some yacht like the rest of our industry.

I'll tell you what.

Our industry deserves to do whatever the hell they want.

And our industry, hopefully, is

one that continues to go up.

You're the man.

Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager.

Our industry.

That's interesting.

Who's in con?

I don't know.

I just saw the Kelseys were there, and I liked the Kelsey, so I didn't necessarily like the way he was headed there.

Was there others that are on Yawns?

I assume there is.

Yeah, Shraig's probably saying he saw

him.

Is he vent out there?

No, but I, or he was referring to, like, I was looking, like, just noticed on social media and Instagram, there's a lot of sports reporters, football people on vacation right now.

Yeah, that's because the NFL kind of won and took snooze.

Yeah.

Daniel Lofsky golfed 100,000 holes.

Still currently.

Really?

He probably around, I would have guessed, probably a whole 60 right now.

One day?

One day

for ALS.

Thank you for doing that, Dan.

That is bringing awareness to a good cause.

Now, he's getting the golf at one of the nicest golf courses in the United States of America.

And he's, I assume, if how this is going.

And he's golfing 60 holes to bring attention to ALS research, I assume.

I appreciate him doing that on his day off.

Now, granted, he's probably getting better out there.

Call out the pocket.

For sure.

100 holes.

He's doing 100 holes.

100, yeah.

He's probably going to be in one day?

Pretty sore.

I don't know.

He was 37 in three hours ago.

Is he walking or driving off guard?

Got to be driving.

Got to be drive.

It was raining, too.

He was a nightmare.

He was battling.

A little sloppy.

Yeah, two.

Yeah, two gloves on.

Two gloves, Dan Orlovsky.

Yeah.

I love that.

Golfing 100 holes in one day to raise awareness for ALS research.

Dan Orlovsky, keep going, Bub.

We appreciate it.

Thank you, Dan.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who golfed in the slop

this weekend.

In beautiful

Oakmont Country Club, which resides mostly in Plomborough, Pennsylvania.

Hell yeah.

This man has been golfing professionally full-time since 2016.

He had one other win before this past weekend, which was in 2022 in Valero, Texas at the Texas Open.

Now, he will forever have on his resume that he's a U.S.

Open champion, a major champion, and an absolute dog.

Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Spawn.

Yay!

JJ!

How you doing?

Hey, fellas.

Hey, JJ, how you doing, brother?

Love the energy.

Congrats on winning the U.S.

Open.

How's it feel?

Oh, incredible, man.

I'm just so over the moon, still kind of waiting to come down from Cloud 9.

But

yeah, here I am waking up every morning still, and it's no dream.

Yeah, you're going to continue to feel that way, I assume, as it starts to settle in.

And I don't know how many people have gone through all the different records and things that you've done that have never been done before.

But to start to your Sunday round and then for the way it ended, let alone the CVS run at 3 a.m., which shout out to you being a good dad.

Yeah.

Shout out to you being a good dad.

What did we have to get?

We had to get a little something to calm the stomach or what was the CVS run?

We had to get the Pete Light,

some saltine crackers, and that's kind of, that's pretty much it for a two-year-old.

They can't, I would have loved to have just given her some Pepto-Bismol and tell her to suck it up, but

she's two years old and she can't even really talk yet.

So we did our best and you know she's doing better now did you stay up through that or did you get a couple hours after that how did the rest of the day go from 3 a.m all the way through the end no she uh my wife ended up staying with her in the other room and then my four-year-old ended up coming and sleeping in the bed with me and i ended up going back to sleep waking up at about nine o'clock because my tea time wasn't until two two o'clockish so um luckily i had kind of you know, the rest of the mid-morning to get ready and get some more rest.

What a perfect Father's Day golf tournament story, especially it being the U.S.

Open.

Let's talk about you starting.

Now, obviously, we got a bogue, and then the second hole, whenever you beautifully put one in, and then the golf gods

that thing right back at you.

Are you wondering at that moment?

Like, if the golf gods are working against you, like, what is the mindset whenever you see one of the most unlucky bounces in the history of a major golf tournament happen to you at that time?

Yeah, I mean, I

hadn't really gotten many bad breaks at all the entire week.

So when they started happening, I was just thinking, holy crap, like, you know, this is kind of, yeah, the course and the golf gods, you know, getting even with me.

I shot the first ever bogey-free opening round.

I'm like, dude,

this isn't the route that I need to be going, you know, kind of jinxing myself with all these records that I'm doing, you know, to start the week off.

But, you know, I'm happy I pushed through it.

But, you know, that's the U.S.

Open.

It's such a tough test.

It's going to test you in every which way.

Let's talk about you being tested.

Kisner told a story on the air about how maybe he gave you a speech one time about you being too hard on yourself and you need to be easier on yourself.

And I don't know if it was a confidence thing or if he was telling you you need to maybe forgive yourself a little bit more for how you play.

And obviously golf is a sport that is very heavily committed to in between the ears and a slightest miss can derail an entire operation.

What did Kisner mean by that story?

Did that happen?

And is that something you still have to kind of battle with being a perfectionist to yourself?

Yeah, totally.

That did happen.

That was, I remember specifically, we were playing

the Pebble Beach Pro-Am in 2022.

And we were playing with Mookie Betts, who is my partner, which is, you know, one of my all-time favorite Dodgers.

And, you know, I played really well all week, but he can see in my attitude and my demeanor that any sort of...

poor break or bad shot, I would just get super mad and down.

And he just said, dude, you're too damn good to get in your own way, that you you kind of just have to be be easier on yourself um and and things will start going my way and and if and just don't care too much i think that's kind of what the final conclusion was just to stop caring so much and he said he wished if he did that earlier in his career he probably would have had way more wins so um it was some nice veteran advice you know to give me and you know actually two months later uh i won the valero texas open kind of with that attitude so um i think you sent me a cute a couple invoices that i think got lost in the map yeah certainly you never saw them If you never saw them, I don't think I saw those.

He had the moment on the U.S.

Open, which we all heard, and it was very cool to hear kids.

It felt like everybody kind of got emotional watching you.

I don't know if you saw, here's Hatton kind of realize the moment for you as he's giving his answers to the media.

Throwing the regular to keep yourself active.

I sat in dining.

Nice, hold it.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

What a cop to win.

That's incredible.

Okay, you had a great English accent there.

And then obviously you saw, yeah, that was great.

You obviously saw McIntyre sitting in there at the scoring thing, just going, holy shit.

Are you guys a tight group?

Like, did you feel like there was a lot of sense of pride and happiness for you whenever you got the win?

Because that's what I think we saw with everybody's reaction.

Yeah, totally.

You know, we see each other week in and week out.

I mean, me and Bob McIntyre, we were chatting it up in the trailer, the workout trailer before and just cutting it up and having a good time.

And, you know, we've gotten to know each other pretty well the last few months, getting paired with them more frequently.

And, you know, it's just, it's cool.

It's just, that's kind of the epitome of the sport.

It's such a gentleman's game.

Kind of have the respect for each other out here because we all know we're so good.

Anyone could win, you know, pretty much any week.

And you got, you know, when things are going a certain guy's way,

you can't really do anything about it, but just kind of sit back and appreciate the moment.

Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, JJ, I know during the rain delay, I know you said it hit just at the right time for you.

You changed clothes, you kind of changed mindset, everything.

I don't know if you got to peek at any TVs, but they re-aired the 2008 U.S.

Open where Tiger took on Rocco Media.

Did you get to take any inspirations from that when you were resting during the break?

Yeah, we were actually in the player grill.

You know, a bunch of us were in there kind of just trying to kill time.

And

I think it was more of just kind of lightening the mood a little bit, watching Tiger dominate and laughing at Rocco's clubs and his outfit and stuff like that.

No offense to Rocco,

he's the man, but just finding how different golf was, you know, 17 years ago.

And

yeah, it kind of was a nice way to wipe the slate clean.

But the reset was huge, you know, kind of taking a break and

resetting the mind and getting back out there and getting back after it.

Watching Tiger, just outrageous.

Yeah, guys, like pulling out on one leg and stuff.

It's just.

Yeah, and then there's a 64-foot putt just a couple hours later to win the entire, which break, you know, because they had the shot of Tiger's massive putt where he swings that some bitch way out to the right neck and comes down.

And then he has that moment where he laughs to himself about how absurd it was.

And then literally just a couple hours later on a drenched, drenched Oakmont Green, that those ninjas took care of in such beautiful fashion.

We watch a big left swinger kind of hold that thing.

What is the mindset?

Whenever you step up for this, obviously, hold it.

There was no thought, like, hey, get this close.

Can Tuput to win a U.S.

Open?

And when did you decide that we were going to, you know, try to bury this thing?

Is that every putt for you?

Yeah, man.

Every 64-footer, I'm just trying to make

those are easy.

Now,

honestly, I was just, I was trying to hit a good lag.

I was more concerned on my speed.

We kind of had our line picked out.

And it just, you can see right there, when it was about seven feet out, we kind of shifted up to the left to see it come down the fall line.

So in case it missed, you can see which way it's breaking.

So for the comebacker, and it just freaking disappeared, man.

And it was just, it was the way to end the tournament.

And it was kind of, you know, how things were meant to be.

Yeah, I think, yeah, only way to end it.

Yeah, I'm happy you tripped it up to the 64 feet.

If you were to put that to 10 feet, lame.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, exactly.

There's no drama in that.

Did you see Hofflin?

You saw Hofflin's putt.

Obviously, we watched you do that.

I don't know how much you're allowed to do that in a PGA if you're allowed to just park it right behind somebody else's putt.

But that's certainly something you're seeing, right?

You understand watching.

You are watching that all unfold in front of your eyes, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean,

I was probably 10 steps away.

I mean, there's etiquette involved that's kind of unwritten rules, but, you know, you can't stand right behind him.

But I was close enough to where he hit it to get an idea of at least how hard I'd have to hit the putt.

But yeah, it was actually, it was a pretty good break to have him go before me.

One of the biggest putts in the history of golf.

Oh, yeah.

A lot of conversation around it.

Go ahead, D-Bug.

I believe I read, JJ, on the last seven holes, you made 136 feet worth of putts.

And now the putter you're using, the lab putter, is kind of all the rage now.

Maybe you should invoice them a little bit.

When did you start using it and what's different about it, I guess?

Yeah,

I picked it up during the off-season last year, so between November and January.

And I've been a pretty traditional putter, I guess you can say, with what style putter I'd use, which is a blade putter

that requires a lot of movement in the toe to kind of square it up.

But the beauty of the technology with the lab putter is there's no torque, is what they say,

with the way it's ly angle balanced, and that's where the name lab comes from.

So the way it's kind of made is the face doesn't twist as you know, as much as a traditional putter would, which makes sense.

You know, you're trying to square this putter up.

Why do you want it, you know, floating open and closed all the time?

Agreed.

Um, so they come up with a with a recipe to kind of limit that and make your contact and make your stroke a lot easier.

Thank you, JJ.

I, I think I just learned

a lab putter, that's all he needs, yeah.

Yeah, figured it out.

Holy shit, JJ.

I just became a professional golfer.

Yeah.

64.

2026 U.S.

Open champ right there.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Those courses are a little bit too tough,

which we will get to here in a matter of moments.

I'm from Plumborough.

So literally.

No way.

Yes.

We've probably been to the CVS that you want to for your daughter for ourselves when we were incredibly drunk and or hung over at the time.

You're going for maybe the same reasons, but.

Pedialite made for babies perfected by drunks.

Yes, definitely.

This was your putt, I believe, the DF3 custom.

Did you change your...

See, now I'm asking for me.

Do we change our stroke or do we keep our same stroke and the putter just helps us out more and we become scratch golfers because we're good putters all of us?

Yes, that's exactly what's going to happen.

You don't change anything.

You just put it in your hands and you're going to make everything.

Boom.

That's nice.

Sounds great.

Sounds great.

That's cool.

Make it possible.

Undoubtedly.

You guys practice with it a little bit.

You'll get used to it.

But yeah, it takes some time to get comfortable with, but it does work.

It does work.

It feels like in golf, they lie to me a lot.

It feels like I can lie to them.

I bought this as the unduffable.

I was watching the golf fix 2-3 a.m.

Guy had pool noodle in his right arm.

He was doing the entire thing.

We go to a commercial.

Bang!

For three easy payments, $29.99.

You can get the unduffable.

Or one easy payment, $69.99.

Yeah.

Turns out you can duff this thing, JJ.

I want to let you know, I chose the one large payment.

And I,

first time out there, I took this thing right into a fairway.

I mean, right duffed into earth.

So

I don't want to be lying to about this lab putter.

I would like to know that when I go out there, ball's going in the hole.

That's a big deal.

Hey, the best part, too, is that putter, that hole in the back.

In case you do miss it, you probably won't.

You just, and you're playing in a friendly group, it's called the gimmicker.

You just stab it with the hole.

You you don't even have to bend over hurt your back so cool pick it up with the putter

give me the gimmicker two and one the gimmicketter there it is that hole the bottom left hey let's remember here when we're golfing those gimmies can be a little bit uh you know you can be friendly with those sure nah yeah you can put in the bottom of the cup they're making putters so you can pick up the ball for gimmis let's let's have a little bit more respect for the gimmicks let's give it a little bit more room if you're paying to play golf you're not good enough to take gimmies.

Put it in.

D-Butch just started golfing three years ago and he's already bullfully people.

Yeah, he is a purist.

He golfs four times a week.

And

I'm taking gimmies.

I need bigger games.

Especially in Oakmont, from what we've heard.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, JJ, obviously, throughout the last several years, we've heard how difficult Oakmont is.

And then you watch it, you know, you got unbelievable players, you know, going home, shooting 18 over and stuff like that.

Is Oakmont the toughest golf course you've ever played?

And how difficult is it on a day like Sunday not to get inside your own head knowing, like, hey, if I hit this in the rough or if I miss, you know, my spot and put it at a certain part of the green, like that could be the difference between three and four shots?

I mean, we saw what happened with Sam Burns.

He was playing incredible, and then, you know, he started missing fairways, and you're just cooked.

There's nothing you can do.

So, is Oakmont as tough as it's made out to be?

I think I know the answer to that.

And how do you kind of stay inside your own head and not let it just defeat you over the course of a weekend?

Yeah, it totally is the toughest course I've ever played.

Probably the toughest course on the planet.

It's just so diabolical from T Green.

You can't miss fairways.

Yeah, you can't miss fairways.

The greens are so insanely sloped and fast.

They're running 14 and a half, almost 15 on the stint meter.

And

the conditions are just insane you know the rough's five plus inches long and it's wet and it's been raining in pittsburgh for whatever a few months so it's healthy 30 years i've learned healthy lush graph yeah yeah so um you know it's it's just one of those those places where you know it's funny because i i i didn't want to look at the leaderboard really before my rounds my late afternoon rounds and see like how the force is playing and you see someone that's like nine over through 11 holes i'm like shit I'm going to shoot,

I could shoot 85 today because people are doing it, you know?

So it was hard to, you know, not get in your own head with knowing how tough this course is.

And, you know, I think that kind of played to my advantage, just kind of trying to stick to my game plan, staying out of my own way, and just taking what the course gives me.

On that note, there was a video that hit the internet.

Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, there was, JJ.

There was a video of Victor Hovlin on the practice screen.

And you're going to have to listen closely in the background to see see if you recognize a voice or not.

Is that your coach there?

Yeah, yeah.

My coach, Josh Gregory.

What does he mean by that?

What were you doing there?

And when was that take?

Was that the final round?

Was that during the rain delay?

Or when was that?

Yeah, that was...

That was when we were on the putting green before we went back out to the reset or after the restart.

And he just told me I'm taking a little too long on my routine with putting.

He said to just speed it up half a second and to, you know, you heard it.

That's kind of what he, that's what he meant, right?

Which one was he?

Which one?

Because we saw them celebrate afterwards.

Yeah, I have two.

So Adam, Adam, the hippie-looking dude with the backwards hat,

that's my swing coach.

And then Josh, that's Josh.

So that's Josh and his son.

He's my short game coach.

Okay, short.

And then the other coach is for uh driver and iron or or how's that work yeah yeah like full swing stuff yeah and they have to get along you choose them do they come as a package how's that work well ironically i just started working with josh last week at the u.s open

hilarious

good coach

good job security

what are the odds on uh jj spawn going forward i know you're this weekend uh at the travelers i believe you're paired with scotty scheffler you talked earlier about the other players and you guys recognizing when somebody's having a moment, Scotty is currently having a moment, feels like the last couple years.

What has it been like watching Scotty and what it would be like playing alongside of him this weekend?

Yeah, I've played with Scotty a couple times.

I haven't recently since, you know, his ascent to the top.

But he's just such a great player and a really cool guy, too.

You know, a lot of people don't get to see how we interact inside the clubhouse and locker room.

But yeah, I'm excited to teat up with him.

You know, we, you know, I'm not going to feel too uncomfortable because, you know, I could say I'm a major champion, too, like he is, and you know, kind of

peacock a little bit next to him and not feel kind of out of my league.

But, yeah, I'm excited to get out there and see what he can do.

And, you know, have a good week.

Couple quick questions here before we have to go.

And we can't thank you enough for taking time out of your life.

We know how busy a golfer's life is.

We watched that super swing show on Netflix.

It feels like one tournament into the other.

You guys are a rock star.

Yeah.

Whatever it is, you know, full swing.

Sorry, full swing.

It

It was super full swing.

It was super.

It wasn't it.

It was super lucky.

You got hit by a car when you were five years old.

Yeah, skateboarding, ran over.

But luckily, I didn't go under wheels.

I went like

the rear wheel went, and then I went right under it before the front wheel, because it was reversing back out of a driveway.

And I just went right under it and was like stuck under it.

Fast and furious.

Do you hang on and just, yeah.

Do you still skate?

How long did you skate?

I know you're a California guy.

Do you still skate?

I haven't since I turned, when was it, 30.

I just

falling, falling now at 30 is it's like falling off a 10-story building.

It was on a flat ground trick, but

yeah, I don't anymore.

My hands are, I rely on my hands too much and my ankles, so I can't really risk it anymore.

But I still like to cruise around the neighborhood on my longboard and

feel right.

Still throwing shakas, yeah.

Yeah, bro, bro, bro, how we're doing.

Congrats, JJ.

We appreciate you so much, man.

We can't wait to watch the rest of the year with you.

Thanks, boys.

Thanks for having me on.

No problem.

Hopefully, you do it again.

Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Spawn.

Yay!

We'll do it.

Yeah, man.

Awesome.

And

yeah, you got to do it.

Found your putter.

Yep.

We saw your eyes light up when you saw this happen.

What are you talking about?

I did get excited.

You know, there was an internal flame that was lit.

Like, wait a minute, I gave up the game, but did I give it up too soon?

Have these lab people come to save me and bring me back to the sport of golf?

Because I'll tell you what, if that flat stick starts working, you can enjoy golf.

Oh, yeah.

If that flat stick's not working, you can fucking hate golf.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, and I was at that second part there for a while.

For a while.

Good thing I figured that out thanks to JJ Spawn and Josh Gregory, first week coach and wins the U.S.

Open.

Looks like that's job security.

We'll continue on digital.

We'll be back tomorrow.

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That was a good timing back there on the graphic, boys.

Great work.

JJ Spawn is really cool.

Yeah.

Yeah, good man.

Good juice.

Like a normal dude.

He should board in.

When he gets to an event, he should ride his longboard in with his bag on his shoulder.

Yeah, maybe surf walk.

Oh, you know?

Like Penta?

Yeah, Penta, Scott Hall.

Scott Hall.

Penta for sure.

Yeah, I thought Penta started that.

I mean, Penta's already back for sure.

penta looks good goldberg had a new walk last night goldberg's back baby

yeah bill

he's how old is he 58 60 something yeah that uppercut's 20 though he's 58 years old i don't know

he's 58 years old let's go

and then he told gunther that you're mine

Because you're next.

And

I love that.

I love Bill Goldberg in Atlanta.

Saturday Night Main Event.

Bill Goldberg's back taking on the champion.

Good.

I'll tell you what, Bill.

Is that somebody that's walked in there with this man in St.

Louis?

I don't know, Bub.

I don't know.

He's 58 years old.

I know bones are

like different for people like Bill Goldberg

than, I guess, every other human.

But I had a bruise on my shit for what, three weeks?

A month.

Because the L, like it's like,

I don't know, Bill.

I respect it.

It's his last ride.

Yeah.

But I just don't know if Gunther's the right one.

That feels like a little bit of an aggressive decision.

Did you see Gunther, by the way?

He's looking kind of shrimp.

Yeah.

But he's the most violent chat.

But we all know Bill Goldberg's game plan is bulletproof.

He's going to go in there, fucking kick him in the head, and end his career early.

Like he's done with many crates in the past.

Fucking ask Bret Hart, okay?

That's exactly what fucking Bill Goldberg is.

I mean, there's a lot of conversation around that, of course.

Bret Hart did hit the internet pretty loud last night.

And hopefully, you know, maybe Bret Hart is, maybe he's around Atlanta, maybe.

Whoa.

That'd be awesome.

Jimmy Gunn.

Could you imagine wrapping up 10 different storylines all in one man?

Goldberg, man.

That's a long-term storyteller.

That is.

That absolutely is.

Bret Hart said, you know, if you booked Bill Goldberg in Saturday night main event, he'd call you back and say, what day is it?

He did not say that.

Yeah, he did.

He did not.

Yes, he did.

He did.

Great quote.

For so good.

I saw that a couple times yesterday.

It was golden.

Bret Hart, Bill Goldberg,

nudged Hatri for a long time.

Hopefully they're able to give you instant.

It's ain't a word.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Feels real.

Feels real, people.

It's been a long time.

I thought it was working.

Kicked him in the head.

Fucking gave him a concussion.

Ended his career.

That's

Bret Hart, obviously.

Bret Hart talking about Bill Goldberg and their match at WCW.

And if you watch the replay, he does connect

like a pretty perfect.

But then there's obviously an

there's a lot of, yeah.

I hope they're able to get over it, obviously, because both those men are massive pieces of wrestling history.

Like people at this stage see Goldberg and,

you know, the arena was channeling Goldberg, but the internet obviously reacts one way.

Sure.

That happens a lot in wrestling.

You know, I get murdered on the internet a lot, but the arena seems to like me every once in a while when I'm out there.

Bill Goldberg in the arena.

Everybody has the nostalgia.

Goldberg.

Yeah.

Goldberg.

Which is one of the greatest chants in the history of wrestling just because it's so, for lack of a better word, daunting.

And his walkout through the ring, whenever he would start in his own locker room, headbutt the door.

Sometimes he'd still be busted open from it.

The security'd walk out.

He'd inhale the sparklers, blow out the smoke, give one, two, three combo with a kick.

The place would go crazy.

and then he would bury whoever was out there.

He was like 113, I forget, I forget what the number was, and oh, whenever he started.

The idea behind it was, can this guy go on a Mike Tyson-like run?

Because that was back when Tyson was doing his thing and they found this spear jackhammer combo with Bill Goldberg.

That was just

lightning for so long.

And then obviously WWF buys WCW, everything happens.

Bill Goldberg comes over to WWF.

I don't know if it works out as great.

He makes his comeback.

It's a big deal.

Now we're doing the retirement run and it's like some people on the internet that are younger that didn't get a chance to experience it in real time, I don't think have like an actual respect for it.

But when it was happening, it was must-see TV.

It was.

I used to spear people on the old wrestling game with my buddies.

I used to spear everybody with Golden.

Well, then a Jackhammer, too.

I mean, just such a pretty sweet.

I still remember everything about how the streak ended.

You know, fucking Nash and Hall out there.

Nash hit him with the taser.

I mean, just dirty pool.

The streak probably could have continued, but it was.

That was must-see TV every Monday when the streak was intact.

He's 58 years old.

People are saying he got hurt training because he came out and said he got hurt.

He hurt himself training a couple of times.

And it's like 58.

Yeah, of course he did.

How would you not?

Jack still.

I think you're going to pull a hamstring every once in a while whenever you're training at the age of 58.

Yeah.

You see how sweaty he was?

I don't know how you're able to work yourself up to that type of sweat at 58.

Legit.

The amount of shit do you have to do to get to that much sweat.

And then, you know, I did enjoy the intensity whenever he's speaking to Gunther and maybe spraying some either sweat or spit on Gunther's face.

Gunther's eating that thing.

As you say, you don't mind.

And do your boys get the Goldberg tattoo back in the day?

AQ, right?

AQ Show.

They had one.

Because his is barbed wire.

What about you, D.

Butt your buddies get?

That was huge, our era.

That's close, Tony.

Yeah, Tony has a couple of them.

I think both sides.

More tribal than barbed wire.

Yeah, none of my boys got one.

Yeah, I thought you guys all got the hoaxer tattoos.

I didn't even know who he had.

That was now, I thought.

This was a good tattoo, anyway.

It was getting yeah, that's what I thought, right?

It was like each stage, there was him like this, and then the hand would.

It's like one of those flip books.

Yeah,

as you turn.

Yep.

Yeah.

That didn't make it to.

I thought you and your boys did that.

Oh, that's weird.

Really, you start right here, and it's just his hand like this.

And then as you turn, it's.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I haven't seen many of those.

Across the bare sick, you should.

It might be regional.

Yeah.

Regional.

Yeah, different

regions.

South Florida, yeah.

Yeah, that's what I heard down there in Florida.

That's the region.

Tampa,

where the Hangout is.

Yeah, Hogan's Hangout.

Yeah.

Carried Hookie on Mondays.

Oh, we missed it.

That was yesterday.

Fuck.

They'll do it again.

When?

Next Monday.

Next Monday.

You know, YouTube TV has MVP features?

They do.

Wow.

I actually didn't know that.

What are they?

Well, they got game highlights, stats, and scores all in one place, making it even even easier to be a fan.

Or a gambler.

With that being said,

I'm done doing the betting against the Sportsbook thing.

Okay.

Well, yeah.

Nine and a half, six and a half.

These fuckers don't know anything.

They do.

They got it figured.

Turns out after an 82-game season and another 100 games of playoffs, Sportsbooks have it pretty locked in on what's about to take.

That's good for Thursday then, because it's four and a half.

Four and a half for who?

For the Thunder.

That's not good news.

No, they've been favored in every game, But every time it's lower than five, the Pacers.

Yeah, but I'm saying the last two nights, they've been seeing the ball pretty well.

Feels like they're seeing the court pretty good.

I think they're

seeing the Pacers.

Is Tyrese going to be all right?

I don't know.

I hope so, man.

I did not like the way he was moving after that.

And then they put him back in there.

Then he goes

to the locker room.

Then, as he's walking out, they show him in that back hallway.

It's like he's limping.

And you got to remember with the way these basketball players are built, Tyrese, everything's like elongated, you know?

So, like, a strain, like that's his

bodies, they're so tall.

Yeah, they're all so tall.

It's like, I have no idea how they lumber as much as they do back and forth on wood for his men.

Starting and stopping.

Starting and stopping is wild with how big they are, too.

Like, that's got to be so painful.

Let alone if you have a tweak or soreness or whatever the hell is causing the right lower leg because it was an ankle, then it was a calf, and then, you know, like, who knows, foot, who knows what it is.

It's being reported as like so many different things.

But it's like his game is the step back, the right foot,

step back.

And it's like his right calf.

So people are, you know, rightfully so.

He did not have a great game, but I don't think he could move much.

And

he was even moving on defensive end to try to get away from very active.

You saw him like sprint, running to the other side of the court.

Like, let me try to get over it.

Because like, you become a liability out there all of a sudden if you can't move.

It's not a good place to be, especially at this stage of it all.

Yeah, you can't get to the rim, you know, even with his game.

Obviously, he's a distributor, but being able to get to the rim is huge.

Like his first, I think, five shots he took in the first half, and they do it.

I love that graphic they have where they show the actual shots.

I think it was four three-pointers and like a fadeaway mid-range.

And like, I think Perk said he was, you know, playing scared.

I don't think he was saying scared of OKC, but when you have like those soft tissue injuries, especially around the calf, ankle, all those things, foot, like you are kind of afraid to push off and land certain ways.

And obviously, you have to explode when you're trying to get up into that rim.

So it's going to be a big, big issue.

Keep an eye on.

Hopefully TJ can keep it cooking, you know, if Hallie can't, you know, be full speed for 48 minutes two games ago I believe maybe game four

I forget which one it was he shot a three from the corner and then there was a rebound and he came in got his rebound and then he was knocked off balance and he passed it and he got up kind of limping then and it's like the same I wonder if it's the same

feels like Something's going on though.

Yeah, and they need him to, he needs to be at least like 85%

for them to actually be able to win.

Especially against this Oklahoma City.

Without a doubt.

Without a doubt.

It is.

You know, that's definitely, but that is what happens in basketball like that is literally what happens in basketball go ahead and with Carlisle like we talk about it affecting their pace affecting the other teams absolutely definitely does you could see it even last night SGA at one point he got knocked down and he took a second and he was breathing heavy getting back up but like the same the guy who's setting that pace yeah the same type of injuries that happened to those other teams those hammies those soft tissues from running so much that I mean this is two years in a row now that's happened to Tyrese because last year during the Eastern Conference finals he got hurt and this year obviously lasted longer but now as the you know as the series is going on it's getting worse and he's the actual one setting the pace exactly you know like he is the rabbit that everybody is chasing out there every single time so we hope it's not as serious

you know as as it appears to be with that being said he's saying it's game six of the finals i'm gonna play if i can walk on playing and i respect that and if not tj can put in good 46 minutes yeah i was gonna say, you respect that, but when TJ McConnell's got it going like that.

Let's talk about another TJ McConnell.

Absolute dog.

TJ McConnell has had games like this a lot for us here in Indiana.

He is a great memo of the Indiana Pacers, a very,

you know, important key to the Indiana Pacers as a whole.

And if they're just going to let him shoot it, he says, you're going to have a guard.

Yeah.

You're going to have a guard.

He will take his time, though.

I mean, he will take his time.

Wide open up there, but his mid-range, like,

I can't recall the last one he's missed.

Like, he rises up and just right here.

Yeah, just

that's the spot.

Never miss.

That's awesome.

I love it.

Automatic.

That is the spot.

TJ McConnell, Yinzer.

Is he potentially a part of the solution for the Indiana Pitchers to find themselves down 3-2 in the NBA Finals to the Oklahoma City Thunder?

We shall see Thursday night.

We have another update on an injury that took place in baseball over the weekend to a mayor.

Obviously, a game for the Savannah Bananas had a special, special guest, first baseman.

Yeah, the mayor, friend of the program, Sean Casey, former hitting coach of the New York Yankees and multiple-time all-star with the Cincinnati Reds.

He got in on Banana Ball, as everybody's been doing.

And, you know, he had a nice long at-bat.

Unfortunately, not allowed to step out of the batter's box.

Yeah, correct.

And, you know, I don't know if this guy for the Party Animals was pitching around the mayor.

It's beautiful.

It certainly looked like he was.

I wasn't exactly giving him a pitch to hit.

You can see he's got got a 2-0 count here, and he's kind of quick pitching him, so the mayor really didn't have much time.

But 3-0, if we know anything about Sean Casey, he's got an unbelievable eye.

Okay, this guy is going to take the free base.

So there he goes.

And then you get a pass ball.

So they're thinking, hey, Mayor, maybe get a look here.

Maybe get a look here.

Maybe try to turn this into two.

He takes a nice big banana turn.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

You see him grab the hammy and scuffles back to first base and immediately, I need a pinch runner.

He's laughing.

He's laughing.

Hits him with a, let's go uh but then i did uh you know had to we we know the mayor i texted him i said hey there are rumors floating around that you tore uh the the hamstring pretty good like is that real or is that bullshit he said yeah unfortunately i tore that thing off the bone i got surgery on thursday so uh you're locked in recovery you got blocked you tore a hamstring on a walk as a walk yeah it's better than your achilles i guess right it certainly is mr mayor we appreciate you turning that fucking

He's the best.

He needs to potentially have a conversation with the first base coach.

Yeah.

And say, Bub,

Bub, just let me get on first.

We did the thing here.

I seen him.

He pitched around me.

I got on base.

What did he think Sean Casey was going to do?

Send him.

Mr.

Mayer, we think you could have got there for sure.

That had to be the first time Sean Casey has ever been sent

in the history of Sean Casey.

This guy got thrown out from left field at first base when he was in the majors.

Like, you know, if I'm him, I'm looking at the goofy bastard who wears the yellow suit and I'm saying, hey, you're paying for all my medical expenses.

Yeah.

All right.

And so he's not a goofy bastard.

He's a genius.

No, I know he is.

He is a super genius.

I know.

I know.

He looks like a goofy bastard with the top hat and everything.

I would like to tell the Savannah Bananas: getting Sean Casey involved, right move.

Without a doubt.

He is the right guy to get involved.

Sending him.

Never again.

Sean.

He was going to make it.

He played it cool.

He played it cool.

He had to be in so much pain.

Torrent off the bone.

Has surgery tomorrow.

What do you think he's saying right here?

Time to, when he got back to first base.

You fucked me.

Why don't you fucking send me?

Fucking kidding me.

You know, I'm like a dog.

Probably.

I got thrown out from my field.

I can't wait.

The fuck, man.

Surgery at that age.

Yeah.

Sean, we're laughing with you, we promise.

And you understand that.

This sucks that you have to do the surgery.

Good luck in recovery.

His on-base percentage is 1,000.

Exactly.

And it's not hindering him.

You know, I believe he's out in Arizona today.

His son is at the MLB combine, so he's still, you know, he's still walking around out there.

I bet he has got the biggest pool of blood and bruise on the back.

I couldn't even imagine that.

It probably looks like he got hit by a car, but hey, it was worth it.

He got on base for the bananas.

You know, amen.

He did his part.

He got a bench runner in right away, right?

Yep.

They were down 1-0, I think, to the party animals there.

He wouldn't have it any other way.

They were down 1-0.

It's 4-2 in points, but 1-0 in runs.

So I'm not 100% sure still.

I think the

gate in that situation.

Yeah, but the bananas got more points.

So I'm running with the bananas.

They got a point for this.

Tear your hamstring on the bottom.

Hamstring is a five-pointer.

On a walk, you get a five-point.

It's a five-pointer.

I love the Savannah bananas.

I also enjoy the fact that Sean Casey's there doing that.

I like that they've been getting a lot of people involved.

I like that what they're doing is bringing people out.

You know, like anybody that can draw that many people,

just like the Pope said, like, I mean, listen to what the Pope has to say.

You don't listen to what we have to say.

But it's like, what a sense of community and a sense of culture and a sense of having a good time.

80,000 people enjoying experiencing one thing.

Like, there's not a lot of companies that can just generate that.

So, the Savannah Bananas being able to pull it off.

They're modern-day Harlem Globetrotters.

They also got Dude Perfect, obviously, mixed in there.

And I very rarely see these fuckers miss.

I saw a guy do a fucking side flip catching a fly ball in center field.

Yeah, I saw that.

I've never really seen a miss, right?

Because I've seen him do crazy things like that.

And I don't recall watching him like fail on any of these things.

I went to the M1 mixtape when he came to Pittsburgh and watched it.

And no holding was certainly a massive piece of it.

And that was when the professor was doing his thing and hot sauce was kind of handing off the baton, but not really.

They were still competing for who's the guy with the best handles in the world.

And there were some misses.

You know, there's a lot of...

There's a lot of, oh, that's a terrible layup.

We're going back the other way.

Oh, that's a mishandle.

That type of stuff.

Now, obviously, when you're trying ridiculous shit, it's not always going to work, especially with it.

That was like, felt more competitive because it was like city representing against and one.

I think we all enjoyed that run that had.

I've been to a Harlem Globetrotter game.

You know, there's some misses that happen naturally.

Whenever you're doing full court shots, there's going to be some misses.

And the filling the time in between the misses to the next, you know, set is a part of the show.

Like, that is what you got to figure out.

I've yet to go to a Savannah Bananas game, but it feels like everybody that goes says positive things and people go right back next time.

So I think what they've been able to create, a festival of sorts with baseball as the main point, is beautiful.

And Sean Casey tearing his hamstring on a walk is such Savannah Banana Banana.

It is banana ball.

Savannah Banana baseball.

And

I'm pumped for them.

They're good for baseball.

Oh, yeah.

Great for baseball.

Yeah, no, more opportunities.

I agree.

No, I've long said the thing that bothers me the most, and I guess it really doesn't matter because ESPN's kind of doing whatever with MLB.

You can watch more Savannah Banana games on ESPN than you can Major League Baseball games.

I think that's bullshit.

That's a good deal.

Super Genius, the guy that you call goofy and the yellow.

Well, he is goofy.

Where's that goofy?

Mr.

Hop Hat and

Jesse?

His name's Jesse.

Jesse Banana.

He calls himself Mr.

Banana.

Super genius, Jesse.

He is, without a doubt.

And again, I.

Maybe he should be running the MLB.

Maybe.

Maybe.

Or the Pizza.

Maybe.

Listen, it's getting kids excited about baseball in Salt Match.

It is.

I agree.

It is.

Not just kids.

Daniel Lofsky says, I'm a Savannah banana.

Yeah, well, he's a child.

I think I would have to go to one live and then because I tried to watch one on TV the other night.

It's a live event.

Yeah, it's just not, it just wasn't for me.

But if I, you know, and unfortunately, I don't think they're going to be coming back to Victory Field anytime soon.

Too small.

Yeah.

Mike the Lucas Oil Stadium might have hit it out the window.

I can't wait for you to play with the bananas when they come back.

That's what Sean Casey just did.

No, but you're going to have to.

Why didn't they give the mayor a pitch to hit?

I don't know.

They were scared of him.

A guy gets cool woods, the hitting coach right here.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who I assume is a big Savannah Bananas fan, Dan Orlofsky, joining us from the golf course.

Daniel!

What's up, buddy?

Hey, what are you doing?

You're golfing 100 holes to raise awareness for ALS research?

Is that right?

Yep.

Yep.

100 holes today raise awareness and funds for ALS.

We are on hole 63.

How are you shooting?

Playing okay.

Just made birdie.

I have another birdie putt here, but 30 feet, so probably not as realistic, but we're playing good.

We're fighting.

We're grinding.

Rain all day.

All does in connection is rain.

So rain all day.

That's good.

You need to be in the mug.

We just talked to JJ Spawn.

You need to have a little bit more confidence, and don't be so hard on yourself.

Are you walking or driving?

No, everybody has their own cart.

No one's walking.

Everybody has their own cart.

No, like practice wings.

Get up to the ball and hit it.

How do we raise money?

Or what are we doing?

How's this working?

Well, you raise money.

You can go to donate.

I can send you the link if you want.

There's a bunch of like pretty exclusive places that to get on for golf courses that you could probably gain some access to, some trips as well.

So what's that website?

LS100.

ALS100holes.com.

All right.

Great work out there, Dano.

We're proud of you, buddy.

You're a good man, brother.

36 holes to go.

Okay, good luck.

How are we feeling?

We got blisters on our fingies or what?

No, no, no.

We got two gloves on.

Two gloves, rain gloves.

No blisters.

Some of the boys are here playing right now.

What's up, lads?

That's Chuck right there who lost his mom to ALS.

Okay, Chuck, hey, sorry to hear that.

Obviously, ALS is a very serious disease we don't know nearly enough about, so days like today are a big deal, brother.

Hell yeah, man.

Tip of the cap.

This is a bird putt right here.

All right, let's watch it.

Hey, I'll donate 10,000.

You make this putt.

10,000?

Yeah, you make the putt.

Got a lab putter?

All right, Danny.

Someone's hands on the putter.

Your hands are the camera.

Your hands on the camera.

Oh, my bud.

All right.

All right, all four of you attempting this.

Chuck and I are a team.

Is that Chuck right there?

No.

Yeah, I'm over here.

Top house.

Dano.

Oh, come on.

You missed it.

I didn't make it, but you can still donate $10,000.

All right, all right, all right, all right.

Good luck out there, Dano.

You're the man.

Appreciate you, buddy.

See ya.

All right, Dano, doing a good thing.

Maybe Dano.

Oh, yeah, Dan.

Salt of the Earth, guy.

He wasn't going to make that putt.

No, never.

30 feet.

100 holes.

I will donate, though.

Salt of the earth.

One day, 100 holes, 24 golfers, one cause.

What is this called?

100.

What's the website again?

ALSA00Holes.com.

ALS 100holes.com.

We saw four of the golfers.

Five other groups.

It's cool.

It's a lot of holes.

Especially right after the U.S.

Open, I'm sure.

No practice swings?

Speed golf.

Have to.

I've heard, now I don't know for sure.

I've only seen videos.

I believe this is how Michael Jordan and his group of friends golf every morning.

Wahlberg, too.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

I think Wahlberg as well.

They all get their own carts.

They meet at a certain time on the first tee, and it's like you're either there or you're not.

And if you're there,

we're all rolling.

T-box is where we'll have some conversation.

Yep.

Everything else is we will

see you on the green.

Let's putt this thing out.

Let's get to the next one.

We don't have five hours.

Okay.

We want to accomplish life while still golfing.

We need to do that.

Yeah.

That's how everyone's cart playing.

And the carts go like 35 miles an hour.

Yep.

Yeah, we need to.

So we need to go to a place

and we need to say,

we would like to use these carts.

We would like this time.

How much can we pay for that?

We'd like to motor through 12 holes of golf because that's a perfect amount.

And then we need to get out of here.

That's good golfing.

Great move.

100 holes is a long time.

But if you're going speed, you might as well do 18.

It's also a fair point.

Well, if I got that latt butter, I mean, time might just.

Yeah.

Ain't that right, AJ?

What did we learn today?

I can puck.

Guaranteed make.

Guaranteed make every time.

I did see, though, when they put the website up, it said allow six to eight weeks for delivery.

So I don't know in six to eight weeks if you're still going to have this passion that you do right now.

For the custom one.

True.

Oh.

Well, you want the custom one, though.

And the custom one is the one that you can't miss.

Trust me, I looked at the site the other day.

I want the gimmickitter.

Yeah.

I want the gimmickitter.

With the hole in it, yeah.

We went to the website and ordered one six to eight weeks.

We'll get it.

I'm sure I'll remember this exact day whenever it gets here.

Can't wait.

Can't wait.

There's a lot of options there.

What type of putt and stroke do I have?

Do I have a standard stroke?

Do I have a sweeper stroke?

Do I have a

counter balance?

Is that what your hand?

How your hands are, I guess.

Is that what that is?

No, that's a bunch of hoopla that you are on there.

There's overcharges.

That's what I was doing earlier.

If you guys saw me, I was doing this.

I was asking, am I a standard putter?

I think I'm a standard putter.

But maybe I'm not.

I don't know.

Maybe I need to go to arm lock.

You got to order four of them.

Maybe I go to arm.

Yeah, let's get the

arm lock as well.

What's this?

What's the sweeper?

Am I doing

Scott had a sweeper?

Yeah, get the real tall one.

Those are cool.

The tall one is a sweeper, I believe.

Give me the sweeper.

I might be a fucking sweeper.

And then DeShambeau uses the arm lock.

So that's this one here.

And it's rolling up this side, right?

Now that's the one.

We need one of every one of these things.

Who knows when I'm trying to find it in the fucking can here?

Expedited 250.

Everybody.

days oh dude nice allegedly the company has already reached out to us that is a cool thing about having a show sure i will say oh that is oh then don't order them yeah they're gonna send them because then we

i'd rather us just buy them no i'd rather just buy them so then if they stink i could say no they're sending them because

they gave them a commercial so that is true i don't think they stink by the way guy drained a 64-foot putt to win the u.s open with it so but anything but it might stink for you and you and you would be well within your rights to say that even if they sent it for free.

Amen.

Yeah, they are.

I'm sorry, I'm a Scotty Cameron guy.

You know, you could say that.

Do you ever make putts with Scotty Cameron putters?

Sure.

I don't.

I don't fucking make shit.

I can't.

It's about the.

Putting is like, does the putter feel good to you?

I don't think it matters what it is.

Like, do you feel good with it?

My Scramble partner hit a big birdie putt yesterday with one.

Jimmy Brown.

Who Mitch?

With a lab?

With a lab putter?

Yep.

Seriously?

Boom.

Yeah, seriously.

Oh,

just sent it in.

That was what he told me.

He's gone.

He need no torque, right?

No torque.

Watching people play is fun.

Do that.

Yeah, there it is.

There it is.

Oh, I don't know.

Do the Michelle Weep.

You got Michelle We putts.

That's your style right there.

I found it.

I don't know how many rounds of the game is.

Get lower.

Get lower.

Grab it down by the head.

Yeah, get

like a hockey stick.

Is that legal, Foxy?

Yes.

No, you're not allowed.

Oh, they were showing Holy Telephone.

I actually don't know.

They were showing how they believe.

I believe, right?

And that's literally how they used to putt.

Jack.

Well, Jack bent over.

Oh, his hand was that far down.

Yeah, I think they changed some rules because of that.

Ohio guy.

Fuck this guy.

Oh, yeah.

That's why I need the lab 300.

Give me the Super Duper Lab 300.

Yeah.

Did you make any putts for your group?

Oh.

I'll tell you what, a good way to win over the group is make a putt early.

Yep.

Yeah, and get it out of the way because I was definitely getting carried by the Brown brothers.

One of them played golf at IU.

Shout out to AC2.

He does a lot of great stuff.

Anthony Calhoun, Wish TV here in Indianapolis, Indiana, in Indianapolis, Staple.

Absolutely.

Has the biggest golf outing every single year here in Indianapolis.

Yeah, been on Wish TV, I believe, for like 25 years, brought a lot of people out.

But yeah,

they probably used maybe four of my shots on 18 holes.

What?

Probably four shots.

He's got good play.

Oh, yeah.

It was like, I would be like, all right, you take one, you know, hit a four-iron on your second shot, get us safe in a fair way, and then they'll go for it for like 270 out.

What were some of the professions out of these Brown brothers?

Oh, they run an aerospace company, three of them, and then one of them owns their own pool company.

We got, so it took me about 13 holes.

Yeah, names right.

It was Johnny, Jimmy,

Joey, and Jake.

And Jake played it IU.

It's not about the Jimmys and Johnny's.

No.

It's about the Jake and the Joey's.

That's right.

And whenever you put them together, the Brown brothers, and they unite for one golf outing, you're going to put together a good score, score especially if you bring in a stick like darius brother four shots out of the whole thing i feel great about those four too these were like wow couple of mistakes i just saw what you were dressed like yesterday holy shit oh my god d-but winning the golf tournament

holy fuck man

day

red yeah d-butt's like look at his shirt nine thousand dollars yep at least it felt i am here to golf great for my shots aerospace no follow-up from d-butt on the aerospace as soon as d-butt told me this i said whoa sweet did we go to the moon what do we did you hear the other day somebody did you ask we got an astronaut on the moon a soldier on the moon right now allegedly i heard that pull up pull up that what's he doing up there i've never seen such a whistle it's like a tomb of the uh unknown soul pack guy

in the video pull that guy up right now so everyone can look at no we're not doing it just fortunate if you don't look like Delbert Jenkins.

I don't guess what he don't.

Speaking of Delbert, not enough people are talking about he's not going to be in Gambridge on Tuesday night.

What if he is?

Is our Delbert?

He's banned or?

Yeah, our Delbert's going to be there.

Okay.

Who's that?

Bald.

We just, yeah, we got to find the fattest slob downtown.

We got him.

Not that Delbert is a fat slob.

I'm saying like the Indiana equivalent.

We got to find Delbert.

Then we know a guy.

Yeah, what do you mean?

He's got out of here.

He's right there.

D-Bound, you're doing great.

D-Bound.

Great polo today.

D-Bound won two games of Euchre yesterday, so

he's getting better.

He is getting good at Chris Moneymaker.

He is kind of becoming Chris Moneymaker.

He kind of does.

He's so stubborn still.

Yeah, he's got a little Daniel Nagrandeu in him.

His body type is more fossil man, I guess.

It's certainly very fossil.

Ray A.J.

Hall.

But

he also, he's got a lot of Phil Helmuth in him, too.

You start pressing him a little bit, he starts getting a little

slocky.

Which I appreciate the way Phil Helmuth carried himself at those tables, but he was a little bit of of a

whiny.

Yeah, he's potting.

D-Bone's been doing some potting.

He dug himself four cards, supposed to have five cards.

Connor tried to tell him, obviously, he knows everything at this point, so he didn't, you know, had to miss you.

Sure.

See you later.

That's that generation.

And then Connor gives him a full speech, like, hey, you're still learning the game, so when I help you, I don't need you to go, wow, wow, I know.

And then when you deal yourself four cards instead of five, and I say, hey, you're doing it, you go, I know.

And then, you know, you miss, you mishandle the entire thing.

Like, you need to, you need to continue.

D-Bone has gotten to a confidence level with Euchre that we need to slow down.

It's hurting.

We need to slow down a little bit.

He's getting good, though.

He understands the game, at least.

He definitely knows for sure.

He's starting to win points.

He's getting good cards.

He's doing good.

Euchre's a great game.

There's a lot of great card games out there.

Whenever you go to places, you learn new card games.

Euchre, I think, is

probably the most,

I wouldn't say electrifying, but it is.

Repeatable, for sure.

It feels like it is

the easiest to spend a lot of time doing and then be interested in.

Yes.

Like, I feel like it is a game that's...

Well, it's similar to Spades.

Similar to Spades, yes, but there's a little bit quicker.

It's a little bit more...

Faster.

Yeah, it's a little bit more energetic.

Is that you guys had it in Northeast?

The Northeast?

Or is that more of a Midwest?

Midwest.

No, yeah.

Euchre I didn't learn until

2020.

I think, yeah, Rummy over there.

Poker, Pittsburgh's a big poker place.

A lot of poker.

Rummy played everywhere.

But people say the Pennsylvania Dutch created euchre as well.

So euchre was kind of founded in Pennsylvania, which makes sense with how quickly I learned it.

I think it was in Cincinnati where Cornhole was invented as well.

No,

it's a different type of game there.

I don't think Michigan, I don't think Michigan created.

Yeah, you forgot the ING on the end of that.

You guys created.

That's a great game when you go Cornhole and you just start tossing those sacks into the hole every time.

That was created in Cincinnati.

Cornhole.

Yeah, the game.

Learned that one in the Colts locker room.

That was a great game.

That was a great game.

I mean, obviously.

You You never played Cornel in college?

No, we had the three

golf blocks.

That's a good game.

Yard golf or whatever.

Yeah, yard golf or whatever it is.

A lot of flip cup in college.

Oh, yeah.

K Jam.

Mostly flip cup.

K and Jam Storm.

I didn't play.

Is that the.

Yeah, that's the Frisbee game.

I didn't play any of the Frisbee games.

I saw a lot of.

Didn't play a lot of the dice games either.

I see a lot of people doing like throwing dice.

Oh, dice is great.

We didn't play

quarters.

I learned that game a few years ago the the dice throw it up hit the table catch it or not looks awesome it is it's very fun never played it i still don't know what the rules are whenever i see a video of a motherfucker throwing it to the sky and then like a cup on the corner i don't know what the goal is still at this point in my life in cup game over you they what do you have to throw it a certain height yeah

it has to be it's supposed the the height thing is kind of kind of varies but it's like the height of the table or the height of the tallest person but it's supposed to be you got to toss that son of a bitch up it's kind of like uh we get it.

Yes.

It's supposed to be.

Has to go off the back.

If it doesn't hit the table, what happens?

Nothing.

No points.

Zero.

What's a point?

A point is table and off, and it hits the ground.

And then what's a catch?

I think nothing as well.

You just get served then, I think.

Yeah.

What?

Like if you, so say you throw it up or whatever.

So your team's here, their team's there.

So is it two on the same side?

Uh-huh.

Okay.

Throw it up, hits the table.

If the other team lets it hit the ground or doesn't catch it, you get a point.

If they catch it, then I think it's just their turn.

And what are you playing to, like 21?

I think it was 11, 21.

Yeah, 11 or 21.

You can't only use one hand.

You can't play a lot.

I still don't know how to play.

You can only use one hand.

It's very.

So you can't trap the dice or anything.

Do you ever see a guy do quarters and roll it on his nose?

No.

That was cool.

We played a lot of quarters.

Who did that, Nick?

We saw somebody do that.

I don't know.

I've never seen that.

I wish I would have.

Somebody rolled it down their nose.

It worked?

Yeah.

This This fucking guy had it figured out.

Wow.

Rolled it down his nose because then it would bounce square and then go right into the fucking thing.

That's awesome.

Sweet.

I quit.

So I'm not playing with these guys.

Yeah, beat the game.

It's fucking unbelievable.

That guy's a beast.

Yeah.

Hammer drunk fucking somehow bouncing his thing on this cup right here.

Tink.

His nose, Love.

Big nose.

It did get a lot of roll.

I thought he was an Italian descent.

No, it could have been German as well.

It could have been German as well.

I mean, let's not get, you know, too outlandish here.

Could have been a hawker.

Shit, look at that.

I mean, he could have got a wide runway there, you know.

Half dollars.

Definitely try it next time.

It worked, though.

You just got to get high enough.

You got to have enough faith that it will actually, because people get scared to get too low.

And then this jackass had all of us doing it, obviously, and none of us could jump.

Just kept him out.

Yeah, fucking quick.

Good party trip.

Arch Manning is awesome.

Arch Manning is everything you want your starting quarterback to be.

A couple years ago, Arch Manning's student ID was found after a night out.

A lot of people were going, is this guy out of control?

I said, is he with his teammates?

That's all I care about.

If he's out and about with his teammates doing college, I love everything about it.

Then whenever he gets in the game, starts flexing, the boys go crazy.

Arch Manning, beloved by the locker room.

How beloved by the locker room?

Well, you don't really know until you start seeing more.

Invited to cook out.

Wingo had a camp.

And Arch Manning obviously went.

And this particular video here is making his rounds on the internet because Arch Manning, I believe, is welcome anywhere, I believe, is what is being said.

And the fact that Arch Manning went to this, took time out of his life to be part of a camp, be a part of a community, be a part of a family, and also say, Yeah, this is my fucking teammate right here.

That will go a long way for the entire locker room.

Love everything out of Arch Manning.

As somebody that has maybe been, you know,

I've been at barbecues.

I've also been lucky to be a couple cookouts.

I've also been potentially the only Caucasian in a few mile radius at a couple different events.

That is a wonderful thing.

This is a part of why football is so damn great.

Everybody talks about the football locker room being what it is, and we wish the world was more like the locker room.

It's because everybody comes together from all different walks of life.

Arch Manning obviously comes from

a very good part of Louisiana.

Now he's getting a chance to experience his teammates' homes.

And whenever you experience your teammates' home, you learn more about them.

You learn more about them as people, why they are the way they are, and you build a better team.

Arch Manning being a leader, doing these types of shit, is a beautiful thing.

And look out for Texas, obviously, forever in this NIL age, but certainly with Arch Manning at the helm.

Like you mentioned, it's been a quarterback.

What teammate was this?

I believe Wingo.

Wingo, okay.

Yeah, young freshman last year, right?

So yeah, this, like you said, connecting, spending time.

What movie?

It was draft day when they talked about, hey, nobody showed up.

Bo Callahan.

Yeah, Bo Callahan, nobody showed up to the quarterbacks party or whatnot.

That is a whatnot.

That's a real thing.

You know, clicking, hanging with your teammates, spending time off the field, whether it's camps, whether it's, hey, eight.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whether it's going to cookouts, this is dope to see from Archie.

And I'm excited to see him, too, at Texas really, you know, taking over at the helm

when he'll come out and actually enter the NFL.

This is one of those things where, you know, having your uncles be Hall of Fame quarterbacks is a good thing.

Yeah.

Because Peyton was very good at like team, team, team, having beers, being a robot, somehow being who he is.

He's the head coach.

He's quarterback.

He's general manager.

He's fucking owner if he wants to be in this entire thing.

But also he's a teammate.

You know, he was, he invited me, Punter, Punter, new punter, on a golf trip and like paid for the entire thing immediately because he wanted, you know, to build up a little chemistry with everybody.

And I think Eli Manning, we saw videos of him playing flip cup, I think in some pickup bars and stuff like that.

Everybody talks about going out with the O-line, going out with the wide receivers, yeah, kind of building that rapport.

That's a huge part of being the quarterback.

That's a huge part of being a leader.

And Arch Manning, checking all the boxes, AJ, all of them.

Yeah, being a quarterback is like at a big college like this is basically like you're the franchise quarterback for an NFL team for a couple years there.

But you're right.

You got to find a way to be, you got to be that like leader, robot on the field, like hold people accountable, but then also a human when you're not on the field and when you're in the locker room.

So it's not an easy thing.

Not everybody can do this.

Yeah, and it takes time, like investment.

You know, that's an investment in time in these relationships.

Kurt Warner, I think, talked about it when he was on the show, how he had to be really intentional about it because it's easy for a quarterback, especially you mentioned it, AJ, even on a college level now, to kind of be in your own silo, be in your own world.

You always have to talk.

You always kind of have to be the face of the franchise.

When you go out, everybody recognizes you, so you are kind of living a different life in a sense.

So the more that you can be one of the guys, I know walking into a locker room as a rookie in New England, you know, the first thing you think is like, okay, what's it going to be like the first time I see Tom Brady?

And then when he comes up to you, introduce himself and has conversations with you.

It's different.

Aaron Rodgers showing up to his new teammates' events.

Like it is different.

It's something quarterbacks have to be intentional about, and it goes a long way.

Arch can

favorites with Ohio State to win the national championship right in front of Georgia.

Can we get the dims on the other kid?

To his left?

Left?

Yeah.

Yeah, he might be 6'8 ⁇ , 6'9.

Because Arch is 6'4, right?

6'4.

Arch big booms.

That guy might be 7'.

Yeah,

obviously.

Jeez.

Who is that?

Yeah.

Sark already got a fucking million dollar offer out to this kid.

Jeez.

I mean, he's gigantic.

Gigantic.

I mean, can he, I assume.

Yeah.

I assume.

He might have got 40.

Yeah,

he could be 40.

I'm pretty sure.

Happy to see it.

That's team, baby.

That's what football is all about.

That's what sports are all about.

Bringing people together.

And that's what we we try to do every day.

Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living.

Let's get the fuck out of here.

Okay.

Do you got anything else to say about the temperature?

Bailey's wearing a t-shirt as well.

No, look, I know

I'm being kind of the poster boy of the, hey, let's make it a little warmer in here.

I also know that I just echo the sentiments of everybody in here.

But that's okay.

What about Bill?

Bill's running a little hot this day.

He's doing something.

Yeah, Bill, tell us the truth, Bill.

Bill runs hot because he usually smothers himself in human blood before he comes in here.

But I'm saying.

He's eating 5,000 calorie lunches.

That is well.

That is well.

Taking so much TRT, it's coming out of his ears.

I would rather it be this temperature.

Anything else?

What's the word we learned?

He burfurcated like a...

Fuck.

Bifurcate.

B-I-F-U-R-C-A-T-E.

Bifurcate.

Can't wait to use that.

Jet was so proud of himself.

Yeah, it was.

We're up at the 68 here.

not already.

It feels like it's gotten warm right here.

Thank you.

This is how it's been all day.

It's been pretty good, I thought.

Don't up it.

I'm telling you, do not up it.

Well, why wouldn't I?

I don't like seeing you upset.

Your little feet sees are cold.

See?

Tootsies.

Yeah, Tootsies, you douche yourself.

This is part of leadership.

I'd like to see you comfortable.

I am very comfortable.

Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.

I'm very comfortable.

We will get this thing to 69.

You owe maybe a double.

Maybe a two, two for me.

Oh, can't go too hot.

Oh, don't go crazy.

Don't go crazy.

Po, poke.

This is bad.

Get a a little foot heater in there, like a little thing you can tuck your feet into underneath the table.

When Foxy had his little hand warmer thing underneath his shit, that was a moment for me.

I was like, I didn't know this existed.

It was necessary.

Back then, that's when I was like, I can wear a fucking t-shirt.

Yeah.

Fuck it.

I'm not cold, but I've gotten to the part where it's like, why wouldn't I just put a fucking jacket on?

I can do that too.

I understand what you're saying.

I'm not scared to dress warm.

Ohio State, Tennessee.

That was very much a, we're not beating this.

Yeah.

Will Howard actually came out and I think he talked to Gruden.

I think it was Gruden.

He said, whenever the Tennessee guys came out shirtless, he was like, we got them.

These people think it's a fucking game out here.

This is not a game.

This is very cold.

Even if you're from the South trying to prove that you're not cold, this is a

scientifically, I think they would deem this as dangerously cold.

Yeah, cold forever is how this would be here.

You know, there's levels to it.

67 degrees.

I think 68 is probably the right degree.

I think 68 is probably the right temperature.

I agree.

If this goes in, Conman.

The Pacers will win on Thursday.

It's a lot of pressure.

It's the first shot.

I had Big Morio.

You going to that one, too?

No, no, no.

It's way too far.

Are you saying that's what it should be for the Pacers universal?

I mean, I just thought you were going Caitlin Clark.

It doesn't really matter either, right?

Let her just fucking pull.

That's ridiculous.

That shit is unreal.

Awesome.

6.8 million.

The ball was right yesterday.

Yeah, that's so many people.

Okay, everybody relax.

Same as College Football Playoffs.

Yeah, they got more viewers on that game than the College Football Playboy.

The internet right now is a wild place.

You can see a lot of things.

Grok can make a lot of things for you.

Sure.

Grok's not the only one.

Grok, very good.

Grok, very good.

Chat GPT, I think, is obviously phenomenal.

It's thing.

Super Duper AI now is getting something.

That's my favorite one.

The Super Duper AI?

Yeah, the one.

$600 million.

Contract.

I know who I.

What's this for?

I know the ball was right yesterday, so whatever you put it in for us.

Yeah, you said Oklahoma City to cover by a lot if this ball goes in.

What's this for?

Is this for six?

Pacers and seven.

ESPN's third most watched WNGA NBA game ever happened on Saturday.

2.2 million average viewers had a peak of 2.8 million.

That is up 76% versus last year's WNBA on ABC regular season average.

And that's only because they didn't have Caitlin Clark on every single week to leave WNBA on ABC.

2.2 million is huge,

especially going up against the U.S.

Open.

Going up against the U.S.

Open.

Once again, the needle mover that is Caitlin Clark continues to be as advertised.

Because Sword was $22 million or something.

20.8.

20.8.

They accidentally added a zero.

There was a fake report

from a parody account that said 20.8, and some people

got excited and was hoping it was true.

I was hoping it was true, too.

Yeah.

Asshole.

Some very legit places, though, were reporters.

Just ran with it.

Oh, of course.

You know, journalism.

Well,

once again, the internet can get you these days.

That seems like a lot.

That seems like a lot, though.

You'd have to really dig into that.

Yeah, but if you think about if you were on your phone at the time, Caitlin Clark, nine points, 12 seconds.

It was like

her pushing beast through.

The coach in the back, like it was all, it took over there for a little bit with the U.S.

Open happening, and it was kind of taking over all the conversation.

U.S.

Open numbers dropped.

Yeah, down to five-point, whatever, rain delay, I assume.

Yeah, I mean, you have to be a fucking idiot to think that this went up to 20.8 million.

Let's just settle that, all right?

Because I do agree, it takes over, but that's more than

all the finals games.

That's more than all of the World Series games.

One day it'll get up to 20.8 million if Caitlin keeps doing that.

No doubt.

Caitlin keeps doing that, gets to the finals.

You know, she's exactly the finals.

Angel Reese, Angel Reese, would be a great counterpart to Caitlin Clark.

Now, granted, I think there's like having Paige Buckets got, what, 30-some points, but her team stinks, right?

That's what they're saying.

So bad.

Kelsey Plum just won absolutely ape shit for L.A.

I think she had a 30-plus point game, but I don't know if they're good.

Las Vegas, obviously, we assume, is always going to be good.

New York, reigning champion, Minnesota.

The Valkyries.

But they're going to have to get something, like, to get to that number.

Golden State.

Are they playing this shit?

Oh, yeah, expansion team.

Where have you been?

NBA finals.

Once the NBA is done, then I'll go over to.

The guy that was standing next to Archie is 6'7 ⁇ , freshman, Nick Brooks from

Loganville, Georgia.

6'7 ⁇ , 348, freshman from Grayson High School.

When I say Nick Brooks looks like he is 14 feet tall,

I think...

Freshman.

I think that's an accurate assessment.

Freshman.

Thought him out of Georgia, too.

Texas money.

Four-star out of Georgia.

Have you heard about these buyouts and shit that they're doing now?

Yeah, so if you leave,

who has to pay for it?

The school that initially brought you in?

I appreciate Amanda Kristovich on her reporting here about schools including buyout clauses in their contracts for revenue sharing with players at the college level, especially in football.

But immediately upon reading it, I just saw a way to game this thing.

So I don't know if we have enough information at this point.

Teams can negotiate buyout clauses up to a certain amount of money for other teams to have to pay if they want to get a player to transfer from their school to the next.

The way this is worded, and I might be reading it wrong, I don't have the greatest reading comprehension, especially for these types of long-form writing things.

But she basically said: if you offer somebody a $100,000 scholarship and offer them $50,000 at the beginning of the school year, $50,000 at the end of the school year, and after the season, you don't make it to the end of the school year, which is April, May, or whatever, you decide to transfer to another school, that other school would have to pay the $100,000 total contract back to the school, even though they only paid $50,000.

and that $100,000 could go towards the 20-point whatever million to fill the revenue thing to get to the max revenue share.

I feel like that would be counterproductive because teams would make money off of players only being there for one semester.

I don't know.

I might be reading it wrong.

Yeah, this is more so like a brainstorming session.

Feels like that.

And this is one of the things that they have brainstormed as like a step one, could this possibly work?

Buyouts should be a part of these.

Yeah.

And then it's like, how do the buyouts work?

Would have to be something that's accomplished.

Buyouts happen in a lot of other places, a lot of other sports.

In theory, good idea.

But whenever you talk about college athletics right now, how is the proper buyout in there?

I guess that is TBD.

Somebody will figure it out and then everybody will just,

we're just doing that.

Bang, which is good for the revenue share.

Hasn't really figured out the NIL

got to approve this deal thing.

Yeah.

I don't know how that works, AJ.

I don't know.

They have to be coming up with a plan.

And did they say it's within 45 days, I guess, to go up to approve a deal or not?

The commission, they're creating a commission that'll be voting on this.

And Seely, is that his name?

Yeah.

Mr.

Seeley from MLB will be the one that'll be heading up the commission, that'll be approving these deals.

I don't know how you say one isn't good.

If a company wants to give somebody in a certain amount of money, I don't know how you say it's not good.

I don't know how that works.

But I'm sure they have it figured out.

Sure, sure.

Maybe they're just making sure they're not legit, but like

you can't sign a

I think I saw Diego Pavilla was on Busting with the Boys, and he said that school in the SEC offered him four to four and a half million dollars to leave Vandi.

So was that an NIL deal?

Was that part of this revenue share projection?

Like what was that deal from?

And if it was an NIL ad deal from a sponsor or a booster, how does the commission turn that down if that company says all I need is one post from you to say that you love this and it's four and a half million?

I don't know.

I know that anything prior to July 1st is just the old school,

not old school, like the last few years NIL deal.

And then after July 1st is when I think the commission goes in.

But maybe they're like unfortunately like, hey, if you're getting paid, you know, a million dollars to do 10 appearances for this company, that you have to do those 10 appearances or maybe something like that.

Who knows?

But they're not going to be able to do anything like you said.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have some breaking news out of the Kansas City Chiefs' mandatory minicamp from Khans

to Kansas City.

Travis Kelsey is on the field, looking slimmer, fitter, faster, and better than ever.

Travis Kelsey, obviously, was

shaking hands over at the Khan's Film Festival with his brother Jason.

They looked immaculate.

I'm sure they told great stories.

Had the crowd in the palm of their hands.

Now he is back to work at mandatory minicamp.

And I'm excited to see what he is this year.

I'm excited to see what this Chiefs team is this year.

And I'm excited to see how they respond after, you know, they make it to the Super Bowl, which is an incredibly difficult task.

They become the AFC champions, and then they get blown out in front of the largest audience of the year.

How will Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, and that entire team respond?

Today's first day to really get a chance to see.

Travis Kelsey looks good, AJ.

Travis Kelsey looks good.

Looks good with his added height.

Do we know that he's, you know, he's added three or four inches of height over the last, what, four months, I would say?

Oh, now he's running some routes.

I'm getting it good out of his break.

Quick cut.

Ah, let's see.

Oh,

yeah, give me that.

No gloves.

Come back to the ball.

Good character.

Look at Spry.

Look at the knees and the ankles going high.

Wow.

You're looking very thin.

That is a good route.

Maybe WWE superstar Jackie Redmond was correct then about her source that they'll be in attendance tonight for the Stanley Cup game six.

You know what?

Just stay up in Kansas City.

Keep on grinding it out.

Yeah, Jackie Redmond said she had a good source that said that their Travis and Taylor might be at tonight's Stanley Cup finals game.

And then she said, that has changed from a good source to just a source.

She said, let's make sure.

Let's make sure this is understood.

My good source has just become a source.

Okay, we are not 100% sure anymore.

Oh, my God.

Jackie was great on the show yesterday.

She was.

Wait, why doesn't D-Butt want Travis in?

Yeah, why not?

You know, I'm a superstitious guy, especially when it comes to hockey.

So, no Dolphins players on the drum.

Which we've heard is not the case.

You know, these are, you know, obviously big-time celebs at Travis and Taylor, and they showed up, and we didn't win.

So, just watch them dissing.

You think they're a little bit distracted tonight on the drum?

Luongo.

Oh, Bobble.

Great news.

You know what's even better news?

Guess who's back between the pipes for the Oilers?

Who's that?

Stu Skinner.

Okay, so we thought there was a chance Stu Skinner was going to get tonight a nice game rest, maybe a reset.

Let's see how Pickard does.

Pickard loses 4-1, 5-2.

Stu Skinn comes back in the game.

Go with the one that caught you there.

is what the Oilers are thinking.

And maybe Stu was able to do some of the boopada boopa boopa boopa boopa boopa brain stuff.

Yeah.

And he's going to be back seeing the puck.

There's a chance that's the case.

Is this normal?

Sorry about that.

Is this normal, though, in a Stanley Cup finals to rotate your goalies like this?

In the playoffs, I don't know about the Stanley Cup finals because normally guys get hot and start standing on their head by the time they make it to the Stanley Cup finals.

But very normal during the playoffs for teams to rotate their goalie and find who's the hot hand.

That's like the big thing.

Who's the hot hand?

Who's the hot hand?

But Brofsky's been hot for like 10 years, whatever the case is.

Up there in Edmonton, Stu had got him here.

Nobody was talking about Stu being the best goalie in the entire league, but he definitely was the goalie that got him to the finals back-to-back years.

And then he goes ice cold.

They put Pickerton.

He doesn't win, even though he gave up some great goals.

Go back to Stu.

It's like they're just trying to find, they're just trying to figure out who's hot.

I think, I don't know if there's science behind it.

Nick, there isn't really a rhyme or reason, right?

They're just trying to figure out who's hot right now.

Yeah, no, exactly.

Especially in a case like this where like Stuart Skinner is a great goaltender, but like he's not a number one on.

most teams in the league, whereas Bob is pretty much a number one goaltender on almost any team in the league.

So when you have a situation where Stu

plays great through all the rounds to get you there, but then falters a little bit, it's like, okay, let's give Pickard a chance, rally the boys a little bit.

And it worked in one game when you saw they had the Yanks Stu and Pickard came in.

It kind of sparked the boys.

And then the next game when Pickard got the start, it didn't work so good.

So now you're kind of trying the same thing.

Like, hey, let's go back to Stu and see if he can refind his game, recapture that magic, and reinvigorate everyone in front of him.

You said you're happy, Stu's in that.

You guys just hung five goals on the Edmonton Oilers last game, one of them an empty netter, obviously, but it it feels like it doesn't matter who's staying in the network.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not a hockey savant, but the mental, I would think you have to be mentally fucked at this point with your own confidence if you're in there, especially with how Marshall's playing, how Bennett's playing, Rhino, Swaggy, you know, how they've been putting pucks on net.

I would think if you don't have the confidence in your coach and probably even your teammates, now they got to this point back-to-back year, so they're definitely talented.

But I always just think from a player standpoint, like, shit,

fuck, man.

Tonight,

tonight, 8 p.m.

on TNT.

Very normal for a goal of your point.

But it's normal.

I guess it's normal, hockey.

It's not good.

No, not at all.

It's not a good thing.

I mean, it was tough going in knowing, hey, if I give up a goal early, is he yanking me right away?

Yeah, the short leash conversation will be the entire lead-up convo tonight on TNT, if I had to guess.

They have great crew over there at TNT.

I love the way they've assembled their hockey coverage and everything that they do, the vibe in which they cover the sport.

Tonight, 8 p.m.

on TNT, Kachuck and the boys try to win their second Stanley Cup in a row.

It's back to back, a dynasty brewing.

Lordo is in the building.

Old Harold, Howard, Howie.

Howie?

Howie.

Howie from the NHL Hall of Fame

is traveling alongside Lordo, we assume, who will be on display this evening.

Will Lordo be raised over the head

of Kachuk Marshi,

Bennett, Bobrovsky, Coach Mo,

and the Florida Panthers tonight as beers just get guzzled from the elbow room.

Is that happening tonight in South Florida?

One more boys.

There's a chance.

For sure.

Who do you got tonight?

Edmonton.

AJ, who do you like tonight?

I like the Florida Panthers.

D.

Budge?

Going to Cats.

You know it.

Ty.

I like the Oilers as well.

Whoa.

Really?

They're down 3-0 last year.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Don!

Cowboys, AP Tone.

What's the betting segments for you, Bub?

I had Oilers at seven before the series started, and I'm going to stick to it.

Shit.

Jeez.

3-3.

Look at us.

I did not expect that.

Foxy, you're from a time that used to have hockey.

Yeah, give me the Oilers.

I'm just realizing right now, at this moment, sports are almost dead, so we need to extend this thing.

Zingo, Zito, who do you like?

Panthers, baby.

I like that.

Panthers have been very good to us.

Nick, who do you like?

I'm going to take Oilers to push it at the seven.

I like that for the good of sports, for the good of the program, for the good of hockey.

And our Canadian lad, soccer fan, hockey fan.

Gumpy, who do you like?

It's over.

Cats.

He's anti-Oilers, though.

Big time.

Hates them.

Canadian.

You don't want Canada to get one?

Not the Oilers.

Anybody but the Oilers is what he said.

They knocked us out.

Jackie was like, anybody from Canada?

Yeah.

Yes, all of Canada has rallied around the Edmonton Oilers.

Sam Bennett's fucking legend.

He's on the Panthers, you know.

There's Canadians everywhere.

True.

There are Canadians everywhere.

There aren't Americans everywhere, though.

What's going on?

These soccer games.

20,000 or more at every game so far.

What?

That's not what I saw.

You don't see that?

Oh, you mean like what's going on with the fans?

I think it's one of these things where it's like no one gives a fuck.

But I don't know.

I don't know.

That might just be

what.

I think you might be onto something.

That might just be optics.

What?

Did you see the U.S.

men's national team?

No, no, no.

I'm out.

They had 25.

You're out?

Yeah.

I think I'm a spam.

Have you blocked it on the algorithm?

How'd you not see the photo?

I didn't have to.

Doesn't pop up.

Soccer, soccer, soccer, soccer, soccer.

It's back in your algo.

I locked my phone in the box.

The men's soccer, U.S.

men's soccer team might be finding something here.

They might be in the middle of actually

having one.

They might be at least thinking about having one.

Because there's a chance we got a new attitude and with this new attitude there's a chance that we maybe have one.

Like actually.

Yeah, like actually think about having one.

The only thing for me is, I think Connor mentioned this the other day.

I don't think we're going to be able to play Trinidad and Tobago and like Saudi Arabia and like, you know, butt fuck

for every game that we're Saudi's a perennial World Cup squad.

Guam, too.

We played that.

Guam, yeah, they fucking gave us 90 minutes of of hell.

You know, all these other teams that we should reach out to

green shit out of.

Until we start really,

you know, having one.

Think about having one.

I'm just not seeing it.

These games, these World, Super Duper, World Cup Club dings.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, nobody cares.

Miami was packed again last night.

Okay.

Miami.

Regional.

Rosebull.

Rose Bull will be packed again tonight for NMLA.

Well, they were giving it whatever game game was at MetLife today before we started the show.

I mean, there's no hyperbole.

There were

150 people there.

Not 150,000.

No.

At MetLife.

Who was playing?

Who Cares?

And fucking Google it, I think.

I think it was Dortmund and Fluminese.

Yeah, Fluminese was on the pitch.

It was kind of crowded.

Those are not people.

Those are seats.

Yeah, they kind of color the seats so it looks like people.

It's not a bad idea.

So what's going on, gumps?

Nobody cares.

Why are they playing such a big stadium, though?

Yeah, and why are they having these teams that don't have a fan base in the United States of America playing in these places?

Because it's like a warm-up for the World Cup.

Like, these are the stadiums they're going to be using for the World Cup.

Ah, smart idea.

So, let's put a hundred million dollar tournament in here to see if anybody can operate it.

Are we worried that people won't show up for the World Cup games?

World Cup will be cranked no matter what.

Always is, no matter where it is.

Okay, from people from not from America.

Yeah, it will be here.

But this isn't passing the staff for stress test.

If that's what they're trying to do, even people from America.

I mean, no one has ever heard of whatever tournament is going on right now.

That's the first time.

It's a $100 million classic.

World Cup is the World Cup.

What were you saying, though, about the Stafford?

I said Stafford.

I meant the John Taffer stress test.

You know, when they fill up the bar big time so that when they open on night one, they know, like, hey, you guys are going to get fucked up.

Shut it down.

Exactly.

I mean, we got 150 people going at this, and then all of a sudden, 150,000 are going to show up for the World Cup.

These workers are not going to know what to do.

Well, you were down there in Miami.

How was it?

How was the the process?

Pretty good?

Easy in, easy out?

No, it was a bit of chaos.

I went through about two things before they looked at tickets, or I didn't really know what the first two entry points were for exactly, but we went through them, then we got swiped for tickets, and then it was a bit of a mess getting out, but they'll figure it out.

Well, and that's big too, because Miami is the only place in the entire country that's gone through like one of the crazy games with Argentina, Colombia.

So if they still don't have it down, then well, at least nobody's climbing through the AC ducks.

Yeah, but that's just that people are dropping in the kitchens in the

in the stadium.

How much they love the game.

Yeah.

It's a beautiful game.

We'll see if they show up.

What do you mean by they?

I think

Argentina and Colombia, yeah, not America.

No, because Gumpy would have crawled through those AC ducks to watch Lil Messi do his thing alongside the Concafer boys.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Going to another match on Saturday in Cincinnati.

You are?

Yeah.

How many tickets you buying?

Just one.

Why don't you buy a few?

Give them away.

Concafer Watch Party.

Bill, for sure.

Bailey will definitely go.

He was over there for the 10-0 super spank.

Yeah.

Of the

Auckland boys got super spanked.

Type Iron.

Did you see that?

I did not.

10-0.

Damn.

Soccer.

Is that a mercy rule?

Running clock, something.

Well, everybody knows the clock.

I already know right.

Not fast enough.

We just need more TSTs.

Yeah.

Yes.

Bingo.

If this goes in, what happens?

Panthers win tonight?

No, Oilers win tonight.

No, because you're Panthers.

I haven't given Mike.

You said Panthers.

I might be changing with how everybody else is feeling.

I would, like, maybe seven games.

It's for the Oilers.

Okay.

It's for you.

No, for Arkansas baseball.

No, no, no, no.

We just met Gage.

We don't need to do that just yet.

Gage is a good kid.

He's a good lad.

He would.

No fried foods.

Well,

he said I don't eat fried foods five days before a start.

They basically start every five to six days.

So I was like, oh, you never eat fried foods.

And that's what he followed up.

It's weird, though, with with college, because I saw his records only like five and one.

He was hurt for a big chunk of this year.

Yeah, so he ate a fuck ton of McDonald's before he came back.

McDonald's is so good.

That's kind of the part of the problem.

Yeah.

You know what you're getting to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Happy.

Chick-fil-A, they'll show up for you every time.

How does he not have a Chick-fil-A fried chicken sandwich?

I don't know.

Don't get girlfriend.

He does.

Why's that?

That's what I got.

When?

The other day when I was fucking pooping and puking.

Oh, you think that'd give me

a definitely the grilled chicken sandwich.

It was.

I didn't eat anything else.

Oh,

I guess it could have been sweet food and pacers, but I don't want to, you know,

they're already having a tough time.

We don't need to do that.

No, no, pile on.

Those Tater skins were delightful.

Hey, the Pacer Suite has good food.

They've had good, it's been a good spread.

Not too much, not too little.

We'll be there Thursday night.

I will be

abstaining from the microphone,

even if asked, again.

Really?

Yeah.

Don't need it.

We lost.

It's time these boys get a double year on.

201?

Yeah, it's one.

Well, I think

if you were to go back to whenever I cranked it last year.

Yeah, red the engine?

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

I missed the engine.

Oh, with Dale Davis?

Yeah.

No, but did you talk?

Did you cut a promo?

I basically said, let's go.

I mean, was I speaking?

Probably.

If I'm doing something, there's probably a little bit.

Where'd the engine go?

Huh?

They ain't revving the engine no more?

I think they said this is probably not it.

Yeah.

And they were right.

It's for the Oilers.

Here we go.

Good luck to the Oilers.

Suck it.

It looked real good.

All right, it's for the Panthers.

No, no, no, no, no.

Oh, no.

Oh.

Looks like the Oilers are going to win.

It's for overtime Oilers.

Oh, yeah.

There it is.

Wow, OT game tonight.

I'll take OT7.

No, Marshi Gold.

I just heard OT.

It's like an OC.

Let's just make sure it's gone.

Marshie Gold.

Here's Overtime Panthers.

Okay.

Oh, shit.

Oh, okay.

Double overtime.

Double overtime.

Double overtime.

Can't believe we're going to YouTube TV, ball.

Oh, my God.

All right.

That's how this series should go.

Double overtime Oilers.

Okay.

Fuck.

oh you have good

double overtime panthers this looks better

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whatever

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