PMS 2.0 1361 - US Open Recap, NBA Finals Game 5 Preview, Quentin Richardson, Jeff Passan, Jackie Redmond, Shams Charania, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

On this Overreaction Monday, June 16th, 2025, this program starts right now.

Sports are happening all around us.

Don't look now.

We have a tide NBA Final Series.

Don't look now.

We have a brand new U.S.

Open champion.

Don't look now.

We are one game away potentially from a back-to-back Lord Stanley Cup winner in the Florida Panthers.

Sports are awesome.

I mean, even the Pope let off his Father's Day sermon with chit-chatting about the greatness of sports.

And I think I'd like to start right there, actually, because every day we get the opportunity to chit-chat about sports.

And I feel like we have a passion for sports more than most people.

We are lucky to enjoy the hell out of sports.

We are lucky that my entire life, and I assume a lot of boys in here as well, has literally been committed to sports.

Mr.

Pope said, in a society marked by solitude, where radical individualism has shifted the emphasis instead of emphasis from us to me, resulting in a deficit of real concern for others, sport, especially team sports, teaches the value of cooperating, working together, and sharing.

These are at the very heart.

of God's own life.

Amen, amen.

In an increasingly digital society where technology brings distant people closer together, yet often creates distances between those who are physically close, sport proves a valuable and concrete means of bringing individuals together, providing a healthier sense of the body of space, effort, and real time.

It helps to preserve a healthy contact with nature and with real life, where genuine love is experienced.

Amen, Mr.

Pope.

Amen, Mr.

Pope.

He would continue in our competitive society where it seems that only the strong and winners deserve to live.

Sport also teaches us how to lose.

It forces us in learning the art of losing to confront our fragility, our limitations, and our imperfections.

It is through the experience of these limits that we open our hearts to hope.

Athletes who never make mistakes, who never lose, do not exist.

Amen, Mr.

Pope.

Amen, Pope.

Amen, Mr.

Pope.

Sports are the greatest.

Sports bring people together, and sports are happening all the time.

I'd like to add there, Mr.

Pope, if you don't mind, I don't want to, you know, step on any

cloaks.

Yeah, papal gowns.

Yeah, papal gowns or anything like that.

I don't want to step on anything like that.

Your.

Your Excellency.

Your

Highness.

Your Holiest of Holies.

Yeah, I don't want want to do that.

Also, learning to buy into something obviously bigger than yourself.

Talk about teamwork.

But working when tired, too.

You know, like working whenever you're tired.

You don't feel good, but you still got to show up for other people.

Sports are the greatest.

And we're lucky as hell that we get to cover them.

Shout out to sports.

Shout out to this weekend.

And shout out to the people that will be joining us.

Quentin Richardson will join us in a matter of 13 minutes.

He's a 13-year NBA veteran, obviously a friend of the program.

He's going to be pretty pumped up by what Okleba said he did to the Pacers.

Started sports books, who I called out.

Stephen A.

Smith, Smith, who I called out, was with him.

Yeah, they were all right.

Okay, Oklahoma City got a big win on Friday.

That's yours.

Yeah, UD obviously said tonight.

I like the Pacers in seven.

I do not like the Pacers tonight in Indiana.

And he was right.

Everybody was right.

Oklahoma City covers in Indianapolis, Indiana, as the Thunder with Scott Foster on the call.

Not me.

Other people are saying a lot of things about Scott Foster.

NBA people are saying a lot of things about Scott Foster.

It's wild.

They even have a nickname for this guy.

I had no idea.

Everybody's kind of looking dry.

He's the extender.

Yep.

That's the extender.

We're going to ask Q Rich about that.

We're going to ask Q Rich about it.

71 free throws in one game.

Okay, now the boys playing cuff, I guess, more tough than they had been for the first three games.

Nonetheless, it's 2-2.

And everybody that had to Oklahoma City Thunder were the best team in the league all year to go ahead and dominate the Pacers.

They certainly showcased an ability to do that at different times, including at the very end of the fourth quarter.

You know, when the Pacers made mistakes that they hadn't made all run, I can't wait to talk to Q Rich then.

We'll also talk to Jeff Passon because we talk about how awesome sports are.

And obviously, we know that the Pope is a sports fan.

He's been seen with the Chicago White Sox hat on.

And although the Chicago White Sox aren't a team we talk about a lot here, we love them, though, Pope.

Mr.

Pope, we love that they exist.

We love that people are fans of theirs and everything like that.

Tonight, it's showtime.

Shohey Otani will be back on the bump, pitching in the majors for the Los Angeles Dodgers against the San Diego Padres.

They call them the Slam Diego Padres.

We're talking about big bats bopping big wood.

And Shohei Otani's back on the bump.

He's pitched in three sim sim games.

I'm not 100% sure what that is.

We'll talk to Jeff Passon about that.

He's throwing 44 pitches.

They say this guy, he's doing good.

He's ready.

That's right.

He's doing good.

Feels good.

Five.

A couple years back, this guy, the reason why we love him so much, not only because he's an incredible batter and not only because he's incredibly beloved in Japan, which is obviously making the sport more popular worldwide.

Not that it wasn't popular in Japan already.

Jesus, we did a COVID break with you guys.

We appreciate the Asian love of a sport of baseball.

But what Shohei Otani has done for the MLB, what he has done for for every team he's been a part of, whenever he was with the Angels, the reason why we learned about him is because this guy was Babe Ruth.

There hadn't been somebody since Babe Ruth who was doing the things that Shohei Otani was doing.

He was pitching over 100 miles an hour.

He was hitting balls off the bat over 100 miles an hour, first player to ever do that.

And then he won the Super Duper World Classic.

on the mound against the United States Mike Trout.

And it's like this guy is not only one of the best pitchers in the world, he might be the best hitter in the world.

And now we have an opportunity to see if he's going to be able to do this for the rest of his career.

Because all any of the baseball peer said was, this guy can't major major in both, brother.

So I happen to be a punter and a kicker coming out of college, okay?

Kicking field goals and punting.

Much less important to the game than what Johan's doing.

I'm not acting like that as a thing, but it's two very different kicking motions.

It's a lot of reps.

The amount of practice you need for one of those things to be the top 32 in the world, let alone two of those things to be top 32 in the world, no real NFL coaches or scouts thought there was an opportunity to do both.

I thought I had the ability to be able to do both.

I was mistaken.

Now, I assume there will be somebody that comes along that's strong enough because the strength you have to have in your arm, that amount of pitches, then also, hey, we're going to be batting whenever we're not pitching.

Every day we're working.

Pitchers usually get that break.

You know, they have all that shit.

He wouldn't be able to do that.

Then to focus on hitting a ball, it's incredibly difficult.

That's why people's best averages are like 300 or something, only 30%.

So to be able to focus on hitting enough to become and remain one of the elite hitters in the league while also becoming a pitcher that is one of the elite pitchers in the world seems impossible.

But if anybody can do it, Shohay Otani.

And we will find out if that'll be what the rest of his career looks like starting tonight, or if he's going to fade back away from pitching and just be the hitting machine that he's become for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Jet Passen will give us more information on that in about 30 minutes or so.

In the second hour, we have TNT ringside reporter and WWE Raw

commentator, Jockie Redmond, joining us in the second hour to chit-chat about this Florida Panthers team.

Man.

Florida Panthers in the third straight Standing Cup finals as the reigning Stanley Cup champions

have been absolutely dominant.

They tricked off a 3-0 lead that gave Edmonton Oilers supporters and hockey fans as a whole a little bit of hope that this thing might continue.

And then in Edmonton, in their bun, just go ahead and they 5-2 this thing, but it was really 4-1 game.

And Marshawn, who got traded from the Boston Bruins to the Florida Panthers, Florida Panthers reigning Stanley Cup champions, get Marshand traded to their team, fits in absolutely perfectly.

Now he's potentially going to win the ConSmyth Award, which is the MVP of the playoffs for the Florida Panthers.

And I put a tweet out yesterday as it was kind of all unfolding.

It's like,

yeah, it might have been an act of grand theft by this Florida Panthers franchise.

And the Florida Panthers fans are going to say, yeah.

Just like we said it was.

They are the state of hockey is how they believe.

And Boston's not just trading away hockey players.

No.

They're trading away baseball players as well.

And then we'll have Sham Sharania joining us at about 1.40 to discuss all the things happening around the NBA.

The Toxic Tables here at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt.

Ty Schmidt, Happy Father's Day.

I hope it was a great one for you, sir.

Thank you.

It was phenomenal.

A little more so now that the kids are getting a little bit older and it's not just like, you know, changing diapers and doing bottles and stuff like that.

You actually get to play with them.

I know you guys had the same opportunity.

So

it was incredible.

You know, I mean, anytime you get to spend, you know, like a full day with your kids,

it's the best.

So, and the weather was good.

Yesterday was a great weekend.

It really was.

It was fantastic.

I did a little painting.

I'll do a little painting.

Yeah, boom.

Oh, yeah.

It's my daughter's dinosaur.

We painted this together.

Hers much nicer than mine.

I don't know the rhyme or reason, but this particular dinosaur

very loud.

I will say this thing is probably...

It was,

oh, Jesus.

Oh, no.

I read the Pope, though, so remember that.

Yep,

perfect.

Actually, dinosaurs and Jesus got along quite well.

That was all true.

Well, I don't know.

There's a lot of conversation about the conversation, you know, about all of those.

And then a lot of the

aliens, you drop those into that combo, too.

Everything really starts.

It gets a little messy.

Yeah, it does.

But sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports.

Yeah, my daughter and I kicking around the soccer ball yesterday.

Got pretty excited.

She was able to do it.

Great Father's Day weekend, but great sport.

And you know, Father's Day weekend always brings a tournament that, of course, kicks the shit out of the golfer.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Die.

Cowboys, AP Tone, Tone, Happy Father's Day to you as well.

U.S.

Open.

Oak Mont really started showing her teeth.

Oh,

she did.

And there was one golfer, a guy that seemingly his story was, was, could never win.

This guy, good golfer, beloved by everybody, could never win.

Now you're a U.S.

Open champion, has to feel good for J.J.

Spawn.

But Oakmont really showcased itself, as did Pittsburgh.

Everything we've been talking about when it comes to Pittsburgh,

there was.

You saw the elevation, the hills, crazy, absolutely crazy.

We saw the person with the putter from 122 yards out, right down the hill onto the green.

Beautiful touch by that person, by the way.

I don't know how they got that to eight feet.

That's a wild thing with how good those golfers are.

The rain.

Hey, it's going to rain.

It was actually

a percentage of days in a year where precipitation happened.

Pittsburgh, I believe, was more in Seattle and like all these other places that a lot of people say there's a lot of rain, a lot of rain, a lot of rain.

It'll rain in Pittsburgh.

That's why they're ready for this thing.

And just like the president of the U.S.

Open Super Chair said immediately afterwards, the amount of Yinsers that committed and volunteered to take care of this course, and obviously the people that work and the groundskeepers at Oak Bond Country Club got an award at the end of it.

They were taking care of.

200, some thousand people came through, even with the rain delays.

I feel like everything that was Pittsburgh was being celebrated at the Oakmont this weekend, but she was kicking some ass, AP Tone.

Yeah, let's start right there with the course and let's talk about her.

She did show her teeth as the tournament went on.

Thursday was the most gettable it was going to be.

The leader was at minus four on Thursday, and then that number was not exceeded the rest of the tournament.

1,541 players have played at Oakmont during a U.S.

Open.

Only 29 of them have finished under par.

That is 1.8%.

And you saw

some of the best golfers that have ever played golf just so incredibly frustrated all weekend long.

Rory

was very, very frustrated.

He did make the cut, though, but I mean, one of the coolest club tosses of all on purpose.

A lot of people said he was mad.

I think he was just like, I can do good stuff.

It looks like I can't do anything good because I'm golfing right now.

But look, I can bang.

Boom.

I noticed for a little bit, I liked what he did there.

That wasn't his only club throw.

No,

Rory was letting those things fly a little bit out there.

He's been frustrated, and then he's a broken box.

How you don't keep it moving.

He's Okmon.

Somebody went after it, Locker him.

The thought of Rory right now, we would like to let Rory know.

Hey, it's gonna be all right, bud.

Yep,

this team shall pass.

Whatever it is, whatever it is, there's something.

It's something.

There's something.

You know, and he's missing the interviews.

Something.

And then he's talking to him, going like, yeah, I'm allowed to not be interviewed.

Are you, do you think the PGA should change that?

No, I think it's a really nice thing that they actually have.

And they give him his answers, then the body language on the course, the way he's playing, the way he's reacting.

It's like, it feels like there's a lot.

And maybe it has just been the weight of being the PGA tour.

You know, Rory really put it upon himself.

He was kind of being considered Mr.

PGA there for a while.

And then whenever he would go into majors and then the live guys would get there, it was like Rory was being dependent.

Hey,

you need to represent here for the history of golf, not just for now, but for the the history and the good of our sport that is so based off of tradition, you need to save all the history.

For a long time, it was that way for Rory.

Then, obviously, there was some personal stuff that happened we all heard about.

And then now he's back to the game, won the Masters, and then it's like the way he's acting, it feels like there's something going on.

Yeah,

hey, soft.

What?

Whoa, you don't know that?

No, but I mean, the greatest crowning achievement in the guy's life happened this year at the Masters, and we're already crying about something.

Like, hey, sorry, dude, you're Royal freaking McElroy.

Everyone wants to talk to you.

Okay, it's the U.S.

Open.

I agree.

He has earned the right to do whatever he wants.

Which he actually said.

Yeah, which he said.

And I think that is a very valid thing because he does have a grand slam.

But quit your bitching and moaning.

Okay, Rory.

Everyone's not having a good time.

I genuinely think everyone who was golfing this weekend, aside from JJ Spawn, had a miserable time.

Wow, JJ Spawn even had a miserable time there for a bit.

Go ahead, Tone.

He did.

He had a miserable time to start yesterday's round.

He bogied five of the first six holes.

Now, he caught a bad break.

He hit it off the flagstick with and it rolled back i don't know and you talked about the hills 300 yards here he is uh second hole yes second hole he was starting as he started his day with the bogey looked really good here puts it to i don't know two feet hits off the flagpole and then dude this thing it's like a steel phantom yeah

it's going down a roller coaster right there steel phantom back up and operating

okay yeah and he's bowing that stuff every once in a while it stops said dropping you off it says hold on we got to pause for a second like that it was plum kennywood day too happy they got that fixed everybody needs

allegedly Plums Kennywood Day.

Nonetheless, this ball rolls all the way back to his feet.

He's getting bullied by the course.

Yeah, JJ Spawn shot a 40 on the front nine.

It looked like he was out of it.

And then the course and the rain really showed up.

There was an hour and 40 minute rain delay where we got to see Tiger 2008 U.S.

Open.

Just absolutely dawn.

That was fun.

Awesome.

How about when he's laughing and covering his face?

Yeah.

I can't believe that went in.

He knows.

Yes.

Now that we know looking back who he is, it's like he's laughing like that because he's like, I'm better.

Yeah, I'm so much better than all these guys.

The putts he was making.

And he is, by the way, rolling that summit, just like on the 18th, which we should go to here for JJ Spawn.

Yeah, JJ Spawn on the 18th, after his approach shot, he puts it to 64 feet.

He has to two-putt here to win the U.S.

Open.

Or they would delay it till this morning for extra holes.

He does not two-putt.

He sinks the thing for a birdie.

Birdie's the last two to win the 125th U.S.

Open at Oakmont in dramatic fashion.

That's obviously his wife and kids there.

One of his kids was thrown up at 3 a.m.

the night before.

He had to go to a CVS.

Which we have been to that CVS, I believe.

Yes, we have.

It's a beautiful CVS.

Great CVS.

Always got your back, including at 3 a.m.

If your kids puking, J.J.

Spawn rolls in there and says, well, we're going to get some Pepto or something in here.

Don't we need something?

And then all of a sudden, you win the U.S.

Open later that afternoon on Father's Day with your coaches.

We're the two that were jumping and hugging each other at the beginning.

Hey, maybe J.J.

Spawn comes and moves.

I know they kept saying he's from California, he's from California.

I think he might be be a Yenser.

I think he needs to come to Pittsburgh and maybe experience life a little bit better.

He was 150 to 1 to win the tournament when it started.

That is the second longest over the last decade.

Phil was 250 to 1 when he won the 2021 PGA.

And that 64-foot putt was the longest all week long from anyone in the tournament.

Yeah, and the 65 was the lowest.

It was like the fourth lowest in the history of the opener at Oakmont.

Yeah, and his first round, his first round, he started off.

He had the lowest front nine of all time with a 31.

And then he didn't bogey in that first round either, which he is the only second round, second player to do that at the last two Oakmont opens.

Greg Harvey between the nums,

statistical genius on X.

He does give him up.

He's doing really well.

Greg is rolling right now.

Players in at least 60 years to win the U.S.

Open despite having a bogey or worse on five of the first six holes in final day.

J.J.

Spunny, that's a tough start.

Mental toughness.

3 a.m.

CVS.

Okay, so that's going to CVS.

You're driving like this.

This ain't no easy drive either.

Doesn't know where he's going.

He's in Pittsburgh.

These roads are.

Shout out to 24-hour CVS.

Yeah, shout out to Pittsburgh, too, for being a great host.

But these roads, this shit is, you're in there now.

Down Holler, you know,

you're going down in there.

So he's not back to bed until what, 4:35, probably.

Maybe.

Maybe he's just up for the rest of the day.

Exactly.

He gets that first hole.

This sucks.

Dang.

Bogey.

Second hole.

Ah, let me line this thing up perfectly, I guess.

Boom.

Hits off the flags that comes rolling back to him.

He's like, what'd I do?

Okay.

What'd I do to you?

Asking the golf gods.

Then he'd go on to have three more bogeys.

And then somehow he's still able to process, keep positive, and finish that thing off, especially when the course had been beating everybody's ass.

He said the rain break was a good refresh.

Yeah.

Was able to hit the reset button.

Golf's impossible.

Watching those guys bum out.

Like burns having a full crash out there.

Oh, man.

Dude, I liked the way he was golfing.

Yeah.

I loved what he was.

He was absolutely going after it.

And this was a big scene because how much water kind of exploded whenever he hit that.

He said, I should have got relief.

He asked two officials if he'd get relief because there was a standing water rule.

We were trying to look it up, figure it out earlier.

We're not super golf people.

We apologize.

That's where the ball was sitting.

Look how much water is rolling around.

The entire course was flooded.

JJ Spawn actually on his,

I don't know what iron it was.

Cool.

I think it was a six, if I remember.

Maybe six or seven iron.

Two hole, 202 yards here.

He's hitting it.

There's water that exploded as he hit it as well.

I think the entire course was obviously drenched from the rain that had come down.

But you saw a lot of guys, you know, act out of the ordinary.

That's U.S.

Open football.

That is U.S.

Open Football.

Shout out to Oakmont.

Shout out to NBC for the coverage all weekend.

Shout out to JJ Spawn being the new U.S.

Open champ and his family.

I love the way they all reacted, too.

His kids are sitting here with him.

Coach is going crazy.

He's crying.

It's Caddy jumping on top of him

on the green.

And then the reactions from everybody as they watch him kind of do it.

Oh, yeah.

Even McIntyre, who's back there in the scoring room, potentially waiting to see if there's the overtime holes.

He goes, wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

That's ball magnet.

Holy shit, man.

Wow.

I guess you win.

Yeah, that's the way it goes.

Massive myths, that guy.

Oh, yeah.

Massive frying pants as he's smacking those things back and forth.

Congrats to J.J.

Spawn.

Feels like everybody loves him.

Now,

did he play his best?

No.

He was visibly frustrated all week long on the range for hours after.

Scotty Scheffler still finished in seventh.

I thought there was a time he was going to come back.

Yeah, with he was like plus four and uh four under, I think was when they started.

And nobody had, I think it was a combined score of like four over or something in the last two groups, there's three groups.

They were talking about how every, everybody that was at the top of the leaderboard was working its way this way.

And everybody down here was just kind of waiting for him to kind of fall down to him.

I was like, is Scotty about to

cost 20,000?

I threw a couple on it just because.

Because if he if he ends up even, you know, I mean, which Scotty scheffler certainly could oh yeah at that time of the day it's like there's a chance that he's really in this winner at one under is insane and that's exactly how the u.s open likes it he birdied 17 to go three over and at that point the leaders i think were all at plus one uh that was before spawn went birdie birdie uh and then he bogeyed 18.

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Joining us now is our NBA expert, ladies and gentlemen, 13-year NBA veteran, friend of the program, quinn richardson yanky race sweet shirt you look cool what's up fellas what's up you look really cool right now really really cool i mean thank you looking at the whole setup here we got uh we got a jordan golf bag back there obviously we got that has to be five

five shoe boxes stacked on top of each other at least over your right shoulder there

It's actually, I'm still, I got a, my wife is on me right now.

So excuse it.

It's like, it's actually shoes all the way across the bottom of here.

You can't really see them here.

I was talking.

Okay, all right.

And those are definitely all shoes with the, what culminating with the three-point contest trophy.

You know, I did that.

That was 2005 three-point contest champion.

That can't never go nowhere.

Leather ball inside.

Yep.

Leather ball inside.

That's where that trophy was won.

Yeah,

rubber ball outside, 20-mile-an-hour wins.

Couldn't be tough.

No change.

Speaking of tough, the Pacers ran into, you know, another one here with Oklahoma City.

Late in the fourth, Pacers kind of give this one away.

The big conversation about it, though, and I tweeted it out in the first quarter because it appeared as if there was some biases going against the Indiana Pacers with some of these calls.

Now, that was literally in the first quarter.

As the game would continue to roll on, I think the Pacers got some favorable calls as well.

But 71 free throws in a finals game, obviously the most in the history.

And then that immediately starts a conversation about Scott Foster, who obviously we all know because he's been reffing in the NBA for a thousand years.

Literally everybody has basically the same opinion about Scott Foster, it seems like, except for Rick Carlisle.

Shout out, coach.

Out of baby Coach Carlisle.

Win him over.

We might have him.

Might have him next game.

Coach, that's a good call.

But what is it about Scott Foster you think that draws such a reaction from everybody, former players, media, fans, you name it?

I mean, this guy takes 17 steps here, pushes off, then hits it, knocks it down right in front of Tyrese's family.

I mean, there's a lot.

There's a lot happening there.

But why is Scott Foster such a lightning rod?

and what are your thoughts on officiating in the nba as a whole because it feels like they can call that whenever they want

yeah i mean my my thoughts i mean i've always had you know i've gotten my fair share of technicals let me let me say that i've gotten i've gotten ejected and tossed out of a few games i've gotten my technicals my flagrance and all of those things so i get it but um for me man i think Everything has such a microscope on it.

For it to be foul play, I mean, everything,

you just spoke about how many players, how many articles, how many different people people have talked about Scott Foster, how he's a lightning rod.

So to me, I know how thorough the NBA is.

I know they cross their T's and dot their I's.

So when I look at everything, I just got to say that when they do the reviews, he comes out clean because he's one of the highest graded officials.

He works the finals every year and things like that.

And those guys that don't do well, they don't get those privileges.

They don't get to do all-star games and playoff games and ultimately the final game.

This is as big a deal for them to get to do these as it is for the teams.

That right there was called a flagrant, All right, let's react.

Caruso won bananas, which we will talk about here again.

Yeah, this call.

Dog, you guys got to love Caruso, man.

You got to love.

I know you don't want his team to win, but you got to respect what he does out there, right?

Yeah, all Italy team.

Yeah, we love Caruso.

We are big Paisan Caruso fans.

And when I got the microphone in the fourth quarter, once again, I was asked if I would like to do this.

This is not like me saying, oh, no, you don't want to give me it.

And now that we've lost the game, by the way, okay.

Hey, do it.

I was undefeated there for a little bit.

We need to go ahead and change up a little bit of the attitude.

But whenever I was gonna, I was literally thinking about going, hey, Caruso, relax, literally, because I thought like maybe he would get it.

But the last thing we needed is Pat McFee calls out player during NBA Finals.

Like that, that didn't want to, I didn't want to get off.

But he was awesome to watch on Friday, as was the fact that the Shea dude's unbelievable.

Coach Daggs obviously had a response.

Lud Dorton at Dortcha Chambers, a real deal.

Pacers, obviously, the team that I am pooling for, the team that I am wishing would win the NBA Finals so that we can have a Larry O parade around the city.

It would be great.

But the Pacers didn't finish.

The Pacers are great in the fourth quarter.

We missed a couple big-time free throws.

We threw up some air balls late whenever we would normally knock those shots down.

Why do you think that was the case?

Was that OKC forcing the Pacers to play bad late?

Or do you think that was the Pacers?

just not showing up in this particular case.

No, I think the Pacers showed up.

I think if you really review it and go back and look at it, that last five, four or five minutes, man, OKC looked like who they had been the whole season.

They were the best defensive team in the NBA and they locked up.

Like, you got to give credit to Chad Hongman because they were kind of seeking him out in the pick and roll, trying to ISO him.

And he was out there contesting.

He was moving his feet.

He was getting there with his length.

He can contest shots late and that he deterred shots.

I mean, I can't speak for the free throws the guys missed, but the actual plays out there, they defended them well, man.

They turned their defense way up like you say Caruso he was getting deflections and and and deflecting passes and getting in the passing lane J Dubb turned up defensively Shea had a block on a on a on a Halley Burton three-point contest so yeah they their defense way up and it was in the best time to do it then you know Shea after that that little stumble shot you guys didn't like where you thought he pushed off it was a free throw contest from there they just made more free throws than him it was no field goals made yeah Matherin who has been great for us and obviously a lot of people talking about him being one of the only guys in the history of the NBA Finals being under the age of 22 and having 25 plus points in game three of the NBA Finals, he missed it too late that he would never.

very i mean that would never happen again and that basically puts it away because it was four point game could have been three point game could have been two point game instead it stays at four we have to foul this thing's over and they cover

which is a uh which is a heartbreaker q rich especially whenever you call out the sports books let's look ahead to tonight do you think the pacers are able to respond Because they haven't lost back-to-backs since March.

I know that's not as long as the Oklahoma City Thunder, but the Pacers also have a bounce back factor in their resume as well.

Yeah, no, this is, this is, this is, to me, the team, I know, I know it's not popular to say, I feel like whoever wins this game tonight wins the series.

I truly do.

I think, I think the, you know, I mean, I know it's a lot of stats that go that way, but I'm just going off the way that this series has gone.

Because if you just go off the next three games, one win, one win, one win.

Like you said, if the Pacers stick today, they didn't lose back-to-back games, then you favor them because you expect them to win tonight, and then OKC win game six, and then Pacers win game seven, right?

So for me, it's whoever wins this game tonight.

Obviously, you go up 3-2 and you take control, but I think they actually win the next game following that.

I think it ends in six.

Big.

Ooh.

Okay.

That could be great now.

I like that.

I like that.

These Pacers win the help.

That could be great.

I told you boys boys when I was there,

I am not like some guy with the pom-poms for OKC or Indiana.

I'm here for good basketball.

I don't have a horse in the race.

And, you know, like I said, if I was going to be doing the Homer thing, it would be for the Magic.

But we all know they're not there right now.

It's on two teams, and they aren't one of them.

Yeah, we will talk about them in a matter of moments.

Let's finish up the NBA Finals, Convo, before we talk about the Orlando Magic wheeling and dealing.

You get 100 first-round picks.

We'll talk about that here in a second.

Obviously, Oklahoma City's atmosphere is about to be insane tonight.

I got a text from Big Perk before he said it on air.

He was like, you need to come.

Oklahoma City and experience that.

And he said on the post show, he said, nobody needs to get on a microphone and tell everybody to make noise either.

I thought that was hilarious.

Like, I saw a lot of people saying, like, shut up, Perk.

I disagree with that completely.

I loved everything that Perk said, especially because the standing ovation that Perk got at that place a couple weeks back whenever he was out there.

I love that he's representing for them.

them and I hope tonight is an insane environment because the Pacers thrive in that.

On that note, we need one Pacer to start thriving again.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Q Rich, what do the Pacers need to do to get Miles Turner going?

Because outside of the kind of down the stretch in game three where he had a couple big defensive stops, blocks, that kind of stuff, he's kind of been a non-factor in the series.

And obviously, like they, they need his production a little bit more to try to beat the Thunder.

So what do they need to do to kind of get him comfortable and get him going early tonight?

they need to get him some some some easy buckets man they need to get him a live play or a layup at the rim not most of his shots if you notice they're a three-pointer or a 17 18 footer it's not a lot of things going to the basket getting him downhill or him getting the ball at the rim so i feel like for as a big man i mean anybody period when you don't have the ball in your hand much and then you you just out there playing it then next you know you get an open shot it's It's not always easy to just catch it and you haven't had the feel of the ball and then just start making shots.

Sometimes it happens, but sometimes it doesn't.

I feel like for him as a big man,

he hasn't had a real feel for the game.

So like he needs to get something closer to the basket where he get fouled, get some free throws or get something easy before it's actually like swing, swing and he's shooting a deep three or swing, swing and he's shooting a step back or something like that where he has to make a move and shoot a jump shot right away.

Let's take the lid off this thing.

Let's make the hoop a little bigger.

Let's get some easy ones in here.

Let's see if go through the bucket a little bit is what you're saying.

Absolutely.

I feel the same way.

You know, if we're shooting in here,

those first couple fall,

can't tell me nothing.

Exactly.

That hoop's this big.

That hoop is this big.

That's why when Tyrese thinks about pulling it early tonight, pull it.

Pull it.

Pull it, Tyrese.

Because if that thing...

Hey, why don't you...

Yeah, maybe think about having one here.

Yeah, Tyrese.

Maybe time to have one.

Yeah, and if you were thinking about having one, now would be the time.

To actually have one.

Yeah, he should do that all the time.

Yeah.

Excited to watch tonight.

Let's move away from the NBA Finals.

Thunder, nine and a half point favorites at home tonight.

I'm not saying anything.

We're game one, too.

Pays plus 10.

I mean...

Kind of late.

Well, they've won 10 straight after all.

Think about having one there.

Thinking about

this would be one.

Think about having one.

Think about having one.

Yeah.

Haven't lost back-to-back games since March.

And once again, I called out Sportsbooks very loudly.

And they were right in that particular case.

So I don't want to

say too much here and wouldn't want to

give advice on anybody on what you should bet on because we were in that world for a few years.

It's the worst world to be in because people tell you that their kids can't have Christmas anymore because you think that fucking football team was going to score points.

So that's not a good world to be in.

But just know that I, me, myself, like the Indiana Pacers plus nine and a half.

There.

Okay.

I like Tricky Ricky plus nine and a half.

Tricky Ricky.

Bingo.

Okay, let's move away from the NBA Finals and let's go to stuff happening in your neck of the woods.

Go ahead, Conman.

Yeah, Q Rich, Desmond Bain was disrespected immensely over the weekend when he got traded to the Orlando Magic for four firsts.

Contavious, Caldwell, Pulp, and Cole Anthony.

I believe I saw a stat at the Orlando Magic were last in three-point percentage and three-pointers.

And it kind of makes sense going back to last year because they made that huge run at...

Clay Thompson before inevitably losing out on him.

What do you think about this trade?

And do the Orlando Magic immediately become one of the better teams in the East?

And because of this, do you think Giannis gets traded for 15 first round picks?

I don't think so, man.

My understanding of the draft picks and things like that is that

the Magic were about to be in that first apron.

And I think the moves that they made and doing it this way kind of relieves that and gets them out of that.

I'm not sure.

I think that's what it's supposed to be doing, moving forward.

But I hated to see KCP go.

That's my young boy from Detroit.

He actually lives in literally the same neighborhood as me.

We're neighbors, our kids, and our wives are friends.

So I hated for that to happen.

But I understand them getting bangs and bringing him in and what he adds.

Like you said, we were the last rated team in three-point shooting.

He obviously is an outstanding three-point shooter.

But also, he plays, you know, he defends.

He plays the other side of the ball.

He's hard-nosed.

What's that?

What's he do?

I say he's hard-nosed.

He plays the other side of the ball.

He defends.

He's a two-way player that can shoot the ball really well.

And

yeah,

that's where I stopped at.

Now he's bopping wood.

You need to bop wood.

You want to win.

You know that.

So, Orlando Magic fans view this as like we're going all in here because anytime you're trading away four first rounders, I mean, that's a big investment.

Now, we'll have Sean Sharanya in the next hour explain to us how the NBA trades work because Luca AD seemingly like a swap.

And then Bain,

great shooter.

Oh, yeah.

Four first rounders.

And like, I don't think I fully comprehend how it all works.

Go ahead.

I didn't either.

I was like,

what in the heck is going on right now?

Like, I was calling my agent.

My agent kind of explained it to me a little better.

Jeff Wexler, he was like, no, it's kind of more housekeeping.

You'll see as things play out.

I think they just trying to keep themselves out.

Because, you know, that first and second apron, this is all new to me.

That didn't exist when I was in the league.

But like, that's the real deal.

And that's why you're about to see a lot of the teams have to, like, the Celtics have to shop guys and do all that because of the first and second apron is like crazy expensive and teams trying to trying their best to stay away from that.

I'm fascinated by how the NBA operates.

Eighth guy off the bench to get a $70 million deal.

Somebody that I've...

I've definitely heard of Mr.

Bain, this guy, when he gets the ball in his hands.

Oh, my God.

The bucket starts getting worried.

Oh, no, we're about to get penetrated, right?

You know what they say?

Sure,

sure.

Yeah, because Bain's got the ball in his hands, but like four first rounders is just insane to see because I think the way the NFL views first rounders versus maybe how the NBA views first rounders is just a little bit different on it.

We'll talk to Seams in the next hour.

Speaking of the NFL and the NBA, there's always a debate.

There's always a debate.

How many NBA guys could play in the NFL?

I think there's a few dogs out there, obviously, that could,

how many NFL guys could play in the NBA?

Well, the conversation is always, they're not tall enough, not athletic enough.

Tone has a question for you.

Yeah, Q, I do.

Keon Coleman this weekend, wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills, was playing at DeMar Hamlin's charity game against some super, really, really good competition.

He dropped 60.

He's an absolute bucket.

He played at Michigan Six.

No holding.

No holding.

Oh, my.

So you're talking, he's got that.

He's the escalade.

Rest in peace.

Meets Professor meets hot sauce out there on the court.

That is who Keon Coleman is.

Q.

Rich, hi!

And he's rocking rims.

He's rattling rims.

Bang.

Give me that.

Step back.

This guy's.

Oh,

oh, triple D, dog.

And then he goes high gloves out.

Are you kidding me?

Keon Coleman, absolute monster.

You got a tone.

I think you were going to ridicule.

Oh, off the backboard.

He's throwing it to himself.

Who was I going to ridicule?

Nobody.

I was saying they're playing really good defense, and Keon Coleman's awesome.

He played at Michigan State, I believe, for basketball.

How many guys, how many NFL guys do you think could make it in the NBA?

I think it's definitely probably a few.

He looked like he could have a chance, but I mean, like you said,

the height thing is a real thing.

You know,

these guys, like, Pat marvels at how tall and how, you know, how many basketball players are way taller than me.

And he says, I'm tall.

So, I mean, that's the biggest challenge for me.

I mean, you got, Keon Coleman is, what, like, 6'4 ⁇ , 6'3 ⁇ ?

Yeah.

And that's what I'm saying.

He'd be going up against like bang.

That's like, he's a guard.

He's like, he'd be small small in the NBA.

He'd be really small.

Okay.

And he looked like he's an unbelievable athlete.

And then he can't shoot and handle the ball.

So, I mean, I give him a, I think he'd have a great chance.

He looked like he's a hell of an athlete.

And like I say, he definitely looks like a legit baller.

Like when he's handling the ball, he moves like a basketball player.

He shoots like it.

He doesn't look like a football player trying to play basketball.

He actually looks like a basketball player.

That's a massive compliment.

I know Keon takes it that way.

And I am just shit talking the NBA players because that is how the conversation has gone.

I barely played in the NFL and will never play in the NBA.

So I have nowhere to be speaking.

But I think Keon, either he or his people have reached out to, he wants to come break some, he wants to come shoot in the Thunderbolt.

Oh, yeah.

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

I immediately took that.

Oh, Keon Coleman's going to come break some record in here.

And then we looked up his Michigan State stuff.

And then we see this.

It's like, in a celebrity game, hanging 60, you're getting the ball a lot.

And you're not.

60 points is a lot.

That's not.

Those dunks, too.

That's not just like, oh, you know, this guy can dunk.

It's like, he can,

yeah, he can really.

All right.

Yeah, no, he was throwing that thing, like, for real.

I guess he had a quadruple double at one point in high school.

Yeah, I mean, messed around, got a quadruple double, decided to be a professional wide receiver in the NFL instead.

Not all men are created equal.

Keon Coleman, obviously, special talent.

RQ, Rich.

Tonight, how do you see it going?

I got OKC winning this game.

I think the crowd's going to be crazy.

Sorry to you boys for delivering that news.

But

I think OKC, did you see what happened when they landed at 3.30 in the morning?

Did you see how many fans were outside the airport waiting on them?

Yeah, I know farmers got to be up early.

Dude, cockadoodle-doo comes at a very early time.

That was AI.

Whatever the reason was, be that as it may, when they landed, it was thousands of thousands of fans at 3.30 in the morning.

You think this arena is not going to be bonkers tonight?

It is going to be, it's going to be deafening in there.

I did not see that, and I'm pretty glad I didn't.

How many did you say were there at 3:30 a.m.

whenever they landed?

They allegedly, they said thousands upon thousands of fans were out there waiting on the like this is outside the airports to way out somewhere where they land privately.

They are there.

They all had to go slap sides with them.

They had signs and everything.

It was, it was like that.

I was going to say, well, you can't get to where the Pacers landing and heat.

Yeah.

It was way out there.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, Oklahoma City fans,

let's keep it down.

Yeah.

Let's keep it down.

Respect be quiet.

Yeah.

Respect.

You're watching greatness.

The MVP's playing out there.

Yeah.

Let's

be quiet out there.

There it is.

There it is.

Oh.

There it is right there.

Do you see that?

It's like 25 people.

3.30 a.m.

Don't do that.

Don't do that.

That's not too

houses.

Classic camera.

Catheads out there and the thing, everything.

I don't know.

I'm just about to say that.

Are they still up or wake up?

You think?

3.30.

Still up, right?

Still up.

I would have stayed up.

I'm just rolling off the energy at this point.

All right.

Respect.

Can't wait to watch them tonight.

Might be tired.

That's an early wake-up.

That wasn't thousands.

That was not thousands upon thousands of people.

You don't know.

Challenge that BP.

BC challenge that?

From that camera angle, I would absolutely challenge it.

Hey, Connor Fact.

Need that.

Everybody in the arena every single time.

Just, this is the new.

It's pretty awesome.

Yeah.

It's pretty awesome.

All right, Q Rich.

We appreciate the hell out of you.

You're the man, lazy gentleman, 13-year NBA veteran, friend of the program, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson.

Yay, Q, Rich.

I don't go horse and race, but every game on pick, okay.

Not shit like that, does.

I just want good basketball.

Yeah, it's real.

We got one.

That's all I want.

It's been an unbelievable series.

I think someone, they said it earlier this morning.

Three out of four games have been decided by, you know, 10 or less points.

That was the first time since 2015.

obviously you were in there so it's a little different true you know than like when i'm watching home where i you know maybe scroll my phone for a couple minutes i'm gonna go to the bathroom actually

go to the bathroom well i'm in the kitchen now might as well grab it ice cold get rigged well sure take this thing back i go back what happened oh they went on a little bit of a run All right, sweet.

I would change the channel.

I'll check back.

No, no, I wouldn't change any finals.

But I would sit back down and I'd watch, you know, and then you finish.

And then that

happens again.

You're not really as invested.

No doubt.

Being there in that arena.

Shout out to SeatGeek, by the way.

Shout out to SeatGeek.

Being there in the arena, it's like these games have been

magnetic.

I mean, like, unbelievable.

It literally has been electrifying.

And it has been some of the most fun that I've ever had watching sports, legitimately.

I'd go back to high school, I guess, when we were watching Paul Mustangs high school basketball team.

Those were were good times.

We had a good time.

We had a good group that was watching those games.

Back in those days, you could really...

Say some things.

Yeah, and then there would potentially be altercations and things like that.

But those are like really invested times being a fan.

For the Colts, obviously sitting as close as we do, it's sweet.

You know, it is actually, but it is like an awesome thing.

But I'm not as invested because the way the game is played.

You know, like it's far down the side and we got red zone going on because we got to pay attention to everything else going on.

Then we get in there, we get crazy.

But for four quarters, these NBA Finals games, and I will even say the Eastern Conference Finals as well with the Knicks.

It's just like you feel like you are a part of it.

And this Oklahoma City team, like their fans, from what they say, tonight should be outrageous, I'm assuming, out there.

Yeah, it is magnetic.

We were standing for the entire game, like cheering when they were on defense and everything like that.

It is one of those situations where you do feel the importance of every possession, every game, and how big of a moment the NBA Finals is.

Thousands of of people.

Okay, see.

Turn,

turn,

turn.

That's a lot of people.

Yeah, there's a lot of people that

can't get

a kid hit his head.

Yeah, well, the kid's up 3:30.

That baby sleep schedule is going to be screwed.

It's worth it, though, they say for a thunder.

Thunder.

Ha ha ha.

Thunder.

Lightning and the thunder, thunder, thunder.

Thunder.

Lightning and the thunder, thunder, thunder.

You think they were just playing those on repeat?

Yeah, probably.

Without a doubt.

God, it is going to be electric over there.

Yeah.

Need this one here.

This is the one where Tyrese needs to do the I Got Heavy Pockets walk.

Yeah, he does.

You know, this is one of those ones.

Big pockets.

All right, speaking of big pockets, let's talk about baseball.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now with the massive news that is happening this evening, it would only be right to have the face of a sport for an entire generation.

Ladies and gentlemen, senior analyst, insider, and pundit for the MLB at ESPN, friend of the program, call him up, Jet Pass Hand.

Yay!

Yay!

What up, Jet?

Gentlemen, how are you?

Before we talk baseball, Oklahoma City Thunder Pacers are playing tonight.

Who's your pick and why?

Oh, this is not the audience to say it.

I picked the Thunder before the season started to win the NBA championship.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Yeah.

Before the season.

My bad.

Before this.

You're an NBA.

Holy hell,

are you a super better here?

You said before the season you liked the Oklahoma City Thunder?

No, no.

When Woge stepped away, they brought on Shefty, myself, and Pete Fammel.

And

they asked the three of us who we think is going to win the championship.

championship.

And I've gotten to know Sam Presti a little bit as well.

He's a really interesting and curious guy.

And he wanted to know what inside of baseball could be applicable to basketball, for example.

Anyone who's looking for his or her blind spots in their job and trying to get better, I have a ton of respect for.

So Sam Presti, big baseball fan.

But listen, I love,

I've so enjoyed these NBA Finals, not just because it's two small market teams that are thriving and that are playing like legitimate team basketball.

Just the defense that's being played there and the shot making and the creation, like it's beautiful basketball.

Sure.

Yeah, yeah, and the push goes.

Yeah, I get it.

No, I'm joking.

Shay's been wonderful to watch.

I agree with your sentiment, and I appreciate that you were being asked to be a basketball insider.

Maybe, hey, why don't you guys start sending text messages in the basketball world?

You can do do the football.

You can do the baseball.

Just start texting them.

Figure it out.

Passengers got handles.

Don't make him kind of avoid talking about it.

He tried out for AM1.

He was almost the professor.

Connor knows.

I crossed his ass one time, broke the ankles.

Like, it was not pretty.

Oh, okay.

I like that, Jack.

Jack, we know with the way you are built, you're going to have to have great handles and going to have to be able to shake people for shot-making possibilities.

We assume you'd be able to pull that off.

All right, let's talk baseball.

Speaking of pulling off, Shohei Watani will be pitching tonight.

Here we go.

Jake, this is what we're talking about.

This is what the excitement was about from us baseball outsiders, but we'll watch if something awesome is happening.

Ty Schmidt, obviously a die-hard baseball guy, but if I see some player doing something that hasn't been done since Babe Ruth, I'm going to be immediately interested, which I was when he was with the Angels.

Gets the big money deal with the Dodgers, has Tommy John Yarjery.

Then he is no longer pitching, but now he's become one of the greatest at-bat guys in the league.

Now he's pitching again.

Everybody was kind of doubting that this would ever take place.

How did we get here?

And what are the realistic expectations for Shohei Otani tonight?

Pat, it's really simple.

Shohei Otani went to the Dodgers and said, I'm ready.

I want to pitch.

And normally when a player is coming off of major reconstructive elbow surgery, he goes down to the minor leagues and he'll have, you know, five, six rehab outings where he can build up his pitch count, you know, start at 30, move to 45, 60, 75.

By the end, you're at 90 and you're ready to go in a full big league start.

Tonight, you're not going to see Shohei Otani for very long.

He hasn't been built up now.

And that's a progression that he's going to have to make while simultaneously being one of the best hitters in Major League Baseball.

This is something that has never been done before outside of Otani doing it himself.

Nobody's ever come back from elbow surgery and tried to play both ways at the same time.

So,

you know, my expectations there that we're going to see great stuff and we're probably going to see a little bit of control issues just because generally speaking, when guys come back from surgery, they're rusty.

And it wouldn't shock me at all if there are a couple of walks mixed in here, but the strikeout stuff is going to be there.

And I'm just excited, man.

I'm just excited as a baseball fan and as someone who loves the game to know that a guy who is unlike anyone else in the history of the sport in terms of how good he is at both hitting and pitching at the same time, that we're going to get to see what could be the best version of Shohei Otani yet, because he is clearly a significantly better hitter now than he was when he was pitching last.

If we're going to get that of him in the batter's box and see the old version of himself on the pitcher's mound,

there is no more dominant athlete in all of professional sports if you get both of those versions of Otani.

Yeah, you become the quarterback and the mic linebacker, pretty much.

That's right.

Playing all season.

I don't know how he would be able to accomplish it with how much wear and tear it would be on his body.

That's kind of the conversation around baseball people, right?

Like, why would we want to beat down one, especially with how great he's become with hitting?

And I think Shohei Otani does, because I could do both.

I know there hasn't been many in the past, but I am the one.

Is he legitimately the only one, like for the foreseeable future?

Or is this going to become something that becomes more normal if Shohe is able to have success with it?

You know, when Otani came into the league and committed to hitting and pitching, I thought it was going to start a revolution of two-way players in baseball.

We had seen it sparingly, you know, a guy like Brooks Kieschnick, who was a relief pitcher and an outfielder, or somebody like Michael Lorenzen, who played some outfield and was both a starter and a relief pitcher.

But I think what we've learned is it's so hard that teams just are not willing to take the time that it takes to actually execute this.

Jack Caglion is a perfect example.

He was a pitcher in college as well as a slugger.

And when he got into the Royals organization, could they have put him out there as a pitcher?

Sure.

But they didn't want that to impede his development as a hitter.

And so the ability for Otani to do both, I still don't get it.

Like, I really don't understand how he does it, how his body weathers it, how mentally he's able to separate the two and to bifurcate his training the way that he does.

But

look, the

wow, the

yeah, that's a good one, right?

The uh,

bifur, bifurcate.

I've never even heard of that one.

Bifurcate, yeah, bifurcate is to cut something into two,

like the second.

You were close.

Damn.

Damn.

Bifurcate.

Damn.

But you're right.

How he's able to bifurcate his time, his physical workouts, and everything else to

be a master at something that the only 0.01% make it to the majors in both of those things is insane.

If anybody could do it, Shohay could do it.

All right.

We'll be excited to watch that tonight against the San Diego Padres.

How many innings?

One or two, probably.

So he's doing this because he doesn't really have a chance to go down in minors, I think you told us either last time or off air.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

He's not going to have a chance to go and build up the normal way.

So they're going to do it within games.

And it'll be very interesting to see how he handles that increased workload and what that does to him on the hitting side.

Because I just like, I want to put a bow on this point because I think it's an important one to make.

Every baseball player not named Shohei Otani devotes 100% of his effort toward a singular craft.

If you are a hitter, then you work on hitting.

If you are a pitcher, then you work on pitching.

Your attention is trained completely on that one discipline.

Otani has to do both.

So there's no way to properly divide that attention and to know for sure that you're doing it the right way to maximize your abilities, and yet the guy has figured out how to do it and how to be one of the best in the game at both.

You say it might be a little bit wild and not like wild thing.

You said maybe his control won't be there.

We're going to see a lot of gas tonight, probably.

A lot of gas?

Yeah, I think there's going to be a lot of fastballs tonight.

Let's not forget.

Dude throws a slider that can start on the inside corner and end up in the opposite batter's box.

He throws a splitter that just falls off the table.

He throws a curveball.

He throws a sweater.

Sinker.

He's got

seven pitches.

He's got the sweeper in there.

The splitter.

Nice.

He's going to split.

there.

Not a bad one for Shohei.

Come in and throw the knuckleball, too.

Not a knuckleball guy.

Oh, okay.

You don't like weight real though.

Disrespectful to Tim.

Hey, rest in peace.

Anyways,

let's move on.

Other story.

Definitely rest in peace.

That game show where they were trying to teach somebody how to throw, a reality show how to throw a knuckle and see if they can become professional.

I thought, man, I should sign up for it.

That'd be sick.

I think I have a strong enough arm.

I can't really throw a baseball.

This would be the only way I learned how to play baseball.

Maybe I'll become a pro.

Only at one season, nonetheless, the guy didn't make it.

Turns out it's hard to to make it.

He's a pitcher in the MLB.

Shohei might be able to do both.

There's other stuff happening in baseball.

Ty Schmidt has a question for you.

Yeah, Jet, to the best of your ability, can you break down how the Raphael Devers trade going from the Red Sox to the Giants actually happened?

I think people who watch baseball understand like a trade was possible with all the shit that's been going on between the two sides.

But the timing makes absolutely no sense.

The Red Sox just sweep the Yankees.

They've won five in a row.

Like after a bad start to the season, they're starting to kind of turn things around.

And they trade who Clayton Kershaw said, this guy is one of the 10 to 15 best hitters in the majors.

How did this happen?

And what would be like a comp to this trade?

Okay, so let's start with how it happened.

This dates back to the end of

the offseason when Alex Bregman is still a free agent.

And Rafael Devers all winter long, you know, the Red Sox had been in the mix with Nolan Arenado discussions and with signing Alex Bregman.

And Raphael Devers was ensured, you know, you're cool.

Like all of this is overblown.

Turns out it wasn't.

And so Bregman signs for three years and $120 million with the Red Sox and goes to spring training.

And all of a sudden, the Red Sox are like, actually, you know, Bregman is a gold glove caliber third baseman and you're not.

So what do you think of de-aging?

And Raphael Devers is like, no, I don't want to de-age.

And I understand that.

Based on the communication in the offseason and acknowledging just how much of somebody's their identity, their personality is based on the position that they played their entire lives, you know, it took him a little while to come to it.

But finally, he was like, all right, I'll DH.

And he was told, you're not going to need a glove.

Well, Tristan Casas, Red Sox first baseman, suffers a season-ending injury.

And Craig Breslow, the chief baseball officer for the Red Sox, says to Devers, hey, we'd like you to move to first base.

Devers is pissed at that point.

Like,

what do you guys want from me?

And yet the Red Sox' perspective is, what we want from you is for you to honor your 10-year, $313.5 million contract where you're going to play for us.

It's not saying that you're going to play third base or DH.

It says that you're going to play for us.

So there's a lot of tension there.

And yet around baseball, guys,

A lot of people thought that Devers' contract was untradeable.

It's $254.5 million through 2033.

If the guy's going to be a first base or DH, those aren't the sorts of dollars you tend to see, even for a hitter as talented as Devers.

And yet, earlier this week, there were conversations going on between the Giants and the Red Sox about potential other deals.

Devers' name came up and something came together very quickly.

The timing of it was just horrendous for Red Sox fans.

Just abominable.

They're feeling good about themselves.

Finally, Pat.

They sweep the.

We're back.

We're back.

Yeah, exactly.

Roman Anthony is up.

Christian Campbell's up.

Marcelo Meyer's up.

The future is here.

It's now.

Everything's going to be built around the kids and Devers.

Not anymore.

Devers in San Francisco.

Big move.

This comes after the Marshi trade to the Florida Panthers from the Boston Bruins as well.

We have five seconds.

That move by him, by the way, is his second goal.

Ridiculous.

Five seconds.

Are these seams different this year than last year?

Yes.

All right.

Thank you.

That's Jeff Passon.

We'll see you next hour.

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Sports are happening all around us in the NHL.

We have a 3-2 lead by the reigning Lord Stanley Cup champion, Florida Panthers.

We'll have Jackie Redmond, TNT ringside reporter, and also Monday Night Raw commentator join us in about nine minutes or so to get her thoughts on the series and the game tomorrow night.

Tonight, the NBA Finals continues as we have a 2-2 series between the number one overall seed, Oklahoma City Thunder representing the West and the Indiana Pacers representing the East.

Pacers had to lead late in the fourth.

They gave it away in game three.

Now the series tied 2-2.

Who wins tonight?

Will that decide who's going to win?

The whole damn thing potentially.

Tyrese, Pascal, tricky Ricky Carlisle, and the boys travel to to Oklahoma City and they're loud house tonight at 8.30 on ABC.

U.S.

Open has a new champion and JJ Spawn.

Sports are great.

Baseball is happening tonight.

Shohei Otani is pitching again and hitting again.

How you doing?

Keep it moving.

Babe Ruth is back for baseball.

Now I don't know if he has the same activities off the field as Babe Ruth had, but Shohei Otani is a great face of baseball and tonight he picks up a job that he did a few years back before, having to have Tommy yawn surgery.

We hope he obviously slices and dices the San Diego Padres.

No offense to the Slam Diego faithful, but we would like to see Shohei have a good outing and then get a couple more innings the next time, then a couple more innings the next time.

And then all of a sudden, we got a full game from Shohei Otani, who's also hitting two dingers.

Baseball is great whenever that's taking place.

That was just a few years back with the Los Angeles Angels.

Now he's on the Los Angeles Dodgers.

New color, different side of the city.

Same old Shohei tonight for baseball.

We just talked to Jeff Pass, and on the way out, he told us these seams are different kutch andrew mccutch and obviously pittsburgh pirate legend saying i asked the baseball league about this they said yeah the ball stink deal with it we'll get to it next year yep basically stars and judge was able to hit it a long way exactly Shohei has been able to hit some big-time bombs.

But I guess because every single baseball is hand-stitched, there's a chance these seams are a little bit bigger, causing a little bit more drag.

So maybe what would have been a home run is actually a deep fly ball out because there was a couple over the weekend where I thought guy was taking a yard.

Place erupted as if it was yard.

Right field looking out from base,

home, home plate, right field this way.

So you're always looking out from home.

Left field, center, right field.

Correct.

Right field or just casually just snags that thing.

How you doing?

Keep it moving.

That's a home run.

Place is losing it.

Yay.

Nope.

Yeah, no.

No horning track power.

Yeah.

That's $750 million guaranteed.

That's also new balls, allegedly.

So baseball is happening.

Hockey's happening.

Basketball is happening.

The NFL is always happening.

Let's talk about that first.

The Cox Table is here at Boss O'Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Conman loves what the Patriots have done this whole day.

Oh, yeah.

Every single part of it.

And especially when you hear players saying, yeah, it's nice to have a coach that, you know, you can go into the back alley with and he'll be ready to throw down with you.

Yeah, it's pretty good being a Patriots fan.

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Shout out to USB and bet.

One half of the hammer.

Done.

Cowboys AP Tone is here.

Tone, Pittsburgh Steelers, everything's hunky-dory over there in Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers as quarterback.

I'm here.

Yeah, everything's super hunky-dory.

Aaron's showing up doing everything.

He's sitting down playing cards with all the boys.

Mark Caboli told that story in an incredible fashion earlier today.

I mean, with Rodgers, too, you hear so many horror stories, right?

I mean, I spend most of my time in the locker room just being a creep.

When I say that, I'm not talking about, you know...

No, you're sitting there hiding in the corner watching what everybody's doing.

No, I'm just like looking around, just trying to scan the, you know trying to get the feel for everything you see aaron rogers comes over they're playing huge games of cards right there and he comes pulls up a chair right next to cam hayward miles killebrew

i don't know if he played or not but he's jumping in there he's you know he's trying not to offend will howard you know by saying hey why don't you try this and will's like he goes i'll ever set my bounds it's like whoa this is Aaron Rodgers.

What are you talking about?

So everything seems to be working now.

Listen, the Dan Haig team's got it figured out for you.

And first and goal collectibles.

And that first company is obviously on board over there in Pittsburgh.

And Chris Mack was trying to correct Kaboli.

You know, you're not like a cuck creeping porn.

You're looking around.

He said, I'm trying to get a feel for how things are, which is good journalism, which is why we appreciate Mark Kaboli.

But what he's saying is, from what I'm seeing, this guy's trying to get acclimated with the team, assimilate with the team, and trying to be the best teammate he could possibly be.

That's not what we were told.

Joining us now is former teammate of Aaron Rodgers, obviously a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers.

Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10.

Happy Father's Day to this guy.

Happy Father's Day to this guy.

Happy Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day.

A.J.

Hawk.

Yeah, Harville.

Tan of them.

Tan of them.

Tan of them.

It's pretty good.

That's good.

I mean, for Phil Rivers, that's actually pretty accurate, accurate, I feel like, isn't it, right now?

Yeah, we don't know where Phil is currently at.

Obviously, that number is always growing as the Rivers family continues to evolve.

Happy Father's Day to Philip Rivers and Antonio Crimarti, A.J.

Hawk, and all the other noted fathers of professional sports.

Let's chit-chat a little bit about Aaron Rodgers being a good teammate.

Mark Bowles says, well.

I was calm, mom blowing, but that's basically what he said.

Have you got a chance to chit-chat with Aaron since his time with the Pittsburgh Steelers?

And how do you think this ends up working out?

Seems very positive positive from the Pittsburgh Jenser standpoint.

Yeah, it does seem very positive.

I have not spoken to him since he's been to minicamp and everything with the Steelers.

But going back to Kaboli, I would wonder,

my first question, when I see Aaron in person, I'm going to ask him if he has had any interaction with Kaboli and if he feels like Kaboli has been a creep over in the corner, because Kaboli never really clarified what he said about being a creep, and he never said, I'm not a creep.

Yeah, Chris Mack was trying to help him out there.

You're not, you know.

You're not meat-gazing in there, are you?

Kaboli is coming on your observing.

Cabol was in the middle of doing some journalism there.

A Dan Hag team would take care of you.

But like that.

I think what Cabol was saying, usually I'm just observing, would have been a better word than maybe being a creep or whatever.

But he said he sits down with Cam Hayward, plays cards.

Obviously, he was at Cam Hayward's golf out, and Cam Hayward is the stalwart of that team, the old OG in that locker room.

You saw that in Mike Hard Knocks when they were both mic'd up.

And Tomlin literally goes up to Cam Hayward and says, hey, get your D-line in order over there before halftime.

And they go back there.

Cam Hayward also said, you're a Steeler.

You're not, bro.

Okay.

I'm about tired of this whole waiting around thing.

That obviously got taken in a thousand different ways.

Now we're watching Aaron in the Pittsburgh Steelers become one.

And AP Tone, I know you've been bopping wood over there playing defense against yourself.

I'm getting too excited, but where are you at right now?

It's cool because not often do you find the quarterback of today.

And then that quarterback of today, which is a, you know, a four-time MVP Super Bowl champion, he owes the Steelers a Super Bowl championship, so he's going to get seven for the team.

But he's also leading the future for

your national champion

first, or sorry, not first round, sixth round rookie quarterback in Will Howard.

Oh, yeah, sixth rounder.

Yeah, which I think, you know, the NFL, they make a lot of mistakes.

This could be another one of those.

This could be a big Tom Brady situation.

Probably.

But no, everything's going great,

especially like mentioning Will Howard.

Like everyone said he's been really, really awesome so far.

We all know he's a good kid.

We've watched him be a great leader.

So things are very, very hunky-dory right now.

Happy to hear that.

Did you hear about Cincinnati?

Things are hunky-dory over there as well.

Allegedly, Trey Hendrickson and the Cincinnati Bengals have continued negotiations was a report this weekend from Jeremy Fowler.

Sources, Bengals and all-pro DN Trey Hendrickson have resumed contract talks.

Doesn't say they're going well.

They're just saying that they are currently speaking.

I think if you're a Cincinnati Bengals fan, you got to be pumped up about this.

And then at what point do you handle the Shamar Stewart situation, which is also still lingering?

Do we assume they get it all sorted before training camp AJ?

I mean, it was surprising for me to hear that they actually are communicating between Trey Henderson and his representatives because I think I said on here last week, I don't know how they find a way to get this deal done with all that has happened and everything and what Trey actually deserves to be paid.

I don't know if they can find a way to get him that number or if they're willing to get him that number.

But anytime you're talking is good.

Whether they're close or not, it's still good that they're actually communicating yeah i think uh that's how you break down barriers you know you got to speak to each other

even if the barriers were very public and uh insulting like sometimes these players need to just take what they're offered

well what if he's the sack king don't care lucky to have a job should be happy uh and then on the other side listen he would pay me or trade me you know and this entire thing there's fighting words from both sides okay But if you talk to each other, maybe you're able to put those fighting words down and pick up your, hey, what's going to be a team time.

What if they're able to work it out?

But what if they're talking and they are not able to work it out and they decide they need to trade them?

Then do they think, wow, we could have done this a long time ago.

Maybe got some draft capital for this entire operation.

I don't know.

We shall see.

Good luck to the Bengals and their fans.

Good luck.

Good luck to the Bengals and their fans.

We're pulling for you over there.

Obviously, the market is big.

T.J.

Watts still an outstanding item for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Obviously, the market right now is at 40 million.

Miles Garrett got paid this particular offseason, as did Danil Hunter.

Max Crosby got his money.

Nick Bosa last year got his money.

That's kind of where everybody stands right now.

Trey Hendrickson down there as the sacking.

He's the one right next to A.J.

Hawk's big face.

That's Trey Hendrickson.

The one right next to my dumbass is the highest paid guy.

And you see where Trey Hendrickson is trying to get to, probably somewhere in the middle here.

Yeah.

Probably somewhere in the middle.

TJ Watt, he's trying to become a neighbor of mine.

If I had to guess.

No doubt.

If I had to guess.

So I think these are pretty easy deals to figure out.

We shall see if the teams will accomplish it.

Speaking of easy, getting in shape is not that.

No.

Getting in shape is very difficult, especially if you, as you get older, as you get older.

When we were back at the Combine, I did a little bit of journalism when I said this.

I decided to reach out to source

who know and say, like, hey, what's the, are we still?

Are we?

Are we playing next year?

To my source.

And the message was, my dog.

Exclamation point, exclamation point,

exclamation point.

Source

says, I'm coming back for sure.

Gonna try and get to the best shape I've been this offseason and get back to the mountaintop.

Got a real bad taste in my mouth with how I played in that last game and how I got the guys ready for battle.

I can't go out like that.

Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation exclamation point.

And guess what?

One more exclamation point.

Wow, huge.

Four exclamation points.

He said, I can't go out like that.

I'm going to get in the best shape that I've been in.

And Jeremy Fowler is now reporting that the Chiefs will see a slimmer Travis Kelsey at minicamp next week.

And we all know he's also taller.

Yeah.

Because we saw him walking with Taylor at the Florida Panthers Edmonton Oilers game.

AJ, what are your thoughts on Travis Kelsey having an offseason down there in Florida with Taylor Swift and coming back better than ever?

I think they continue to inspire each other.

I think they continue to motivate each other.

I think they continue to be great for each other.

And if Travis Kelsey is all the way back, I think you immediately understand that the Chiefs are going to be exactly where the Chiefs have been.

And that's entitled Conversations, AJ.

Yeah, it is.

I mean, I feel like Travis Kelsey, obviously, old school guy, I think he's, this is the only good thing that comes from losing it.

It can absolutely like reignite a fire.

It could do something to

spark something that you want to get back to where you were.

And when you've won multiple Super Bowls, what do you want to do?

You want to continue to win multiple.

You want to win every single year.

I think they're getting hungrier and hungrier.

But yeah, as you get older, you definitely have to figure out what works best for your body.

I'm sure Travis is doing that, but I expect nothing but greatness from him this year.

How about how tall?

Maybe he's not thinner.

He's just, he had a growth spur.

He didn't grow two inches at age 34.

Yeah, that happened.

I don't know.

Did you see him walking down that hallway?

Did you see him?

Oh, I believe it.

I'm all for you.

I definitely think he has grown.

I just, I think it's wild.

You never doubt those billionaires, though.

True.

He might have hit a gross burner.

34.

DeAndre the Giant kept growing.

I've seen politicians grow.

Sometimes they've seen they're taller than they were a couple days before.

I've seen that.

I think we all saw that, but then we were told the camera was put in a different spot.

It's like, well,

let's put the camera back there and see if it happens again then.

The whole

this pause.

I've got a.

Yeah.

And

I mean.

She's probably six foot in those heels she's wearing.

Probably six.

She's like probably six, too.

She's very tall to begin with.

And then she's wearing, keep playing.

Pause.

I mean, those are.

Those are.

Those are three, four inches.

I don't know.

Joining us now might be somebody that knows.

She was there, ladies and gentlemen.

Ringside reporter for TNT for the last three years.

Has been covering sports since 2011 when she won a contest to become a next sportscaster up there in the beautiful country of Canada.

Ladies and gentlemen, WWE Raw commentator, Jackie Redmond.

Yay!

Hey!

You guys did your research bringing me on here.

I can't believe you mentioned Gillette drafted.

It feels like it was like 20 years ago.

Okay, so is that 2011?

Is that what you're referring to?

Yeah, correct.

You were spot on.

Your stats department is on their A game today.

You got it.

My stats department is a Canadian that we have on staff,

Bubba Gampino.

Bubba Gampino says she actually won a contest in 2011 to be the next sportscaster.

It was a little bit of a runaway.

I prefer the word competition over contest.

You know, I had to really compete hard.

I think it was more of a competition.

Okay.

Now, to be clear, Gumpy said you annihilated all of the competition in the contest.

Ain't that right, Gumpy?

Yeah, the Raging Redhead said she was unbelievable.

Okay, so we...

Cam Stewart.

Shout out Cam Stewart.

And Gabe Morenzi, obviously.

Yes, love Gabe.

Love Gabe.

Yeah, yeah.

Shout out Canada as a whole.

Obviously, hockey is fantastic.

Now, there's been some things.

Not going to get into it.

Now is not the time.

We needed to win that Four Nations.

USA needed to win that Four Nations.

Worse than anybody.

Yeah, Jackie, I know.

The double, double.

Listen, we'll see you at the Olympics, bud.

It's on.

I saw the team you guys have put together.

I do not love that.

They put out the USA one, too.

I do not love.

Okay, anyways, let's talk about the game.

Travis and Taylor were at the game.

Obviously, Edmonton and Florida down there.

They are, I believe, currently in Florida as a whole.

Did Travis Kelsey look taller than ever?

And how happy and thin and fit did he look?

Because that is the big news around Kansas City with that particular Hall of Famer.

Yeah, he looked in shape.

I'm not going to lie, I was really paying more attention to what Taylor Swift was wearing.

She looked fantastic.

But yeah,

he looked good.

I didn't see him like up close and personal, but I did get all of the information from Wayne Gretzky, who spent some time with them watching the game.

So he said Travis looks great.

Looks like he's in great shape and he's ready to go.

You know, listening to you guys talk about Casey and Travis, too, you could have been talking about the Florida Panthers, the way you guys were talking about how, you know, he's hungrier than ever.

That team losing is hungrier than ever.

I think you could say the same for the Florida Panthers.

Like they lost two years ago and they decided, all right, we just lost in the Stanley Cup final.

Now we're just going to go off and be a dynasty.

No big deal.

I feel like there's parallels there.

Okay, I love to hear that.

Obviously, a dynasty, I think they would be the eighth team in NHL history to go back to back.

The Pittsburgh Penguins have done it a couple of times.

Wow.

No big deal.

But let's talk about this Florida Panthers team.

They trick off that 3-0 lead, obviously, and then

the series gets tied up.

Then they show up in Edmonton, and Marshi is just absolutely filthy.

And the boys win 5-2, even though it's like a 4-1 game as a whole.

What are your thoughts going into tomorrow night's game?

And does this feel like the Florida Panthers are the far superior team yet again?

Yeah, I think it does.

You know, when the the series started, the first couple games, as we know, were insane.

One of the craziest Stanley Cup final I've ever covered for sure.

And at that time, I was like, you know what?

These are pretty evenly matched teams.

But now, as the series has gone on, I think Florida has separated themselves from Edmonton.

You know, I'm not going to count the Oilers out.

They've got McDavid and Dreisidle, two of the best players in the world.

So I think...

If they can force a game seven, I mean, we saw them come back from 3-0 in the final last year, three games to none last year.

So they can do it.

But I do think that Florida has established themselves as the more dominant team.

I mean, they're better in goal.

They're better on the back end.

They're deeper as a whole.

They've won before.

So they have the confidence that comes with that.

And like, nobody has more fun than the Florida Panthers.

Like, I can say that with confidence.

The aura with this team is off the charts.

Like, they allow a game-tying goal.

like with 17 seconds left earlier in the series and they're joking around and busting each other's balls between periods, like getting ready for overtime.

Like, that is what this team is.

Like, they are completely unphased.

They don't get rattled.

And Brad Marchand just fits seamlessly into that equation.

He's been electric in this final.

He's my pick right now for Kant Snife.

I know Sam Bennett.

Sam Bennett has had an unbelievable postseason,

but I'd give it to 63.

I think seven of his 10 goals have given Florida the lead.

So, if you're looking for stats to back up sort of clutchness, I think Marshan checks all the boxes.

But yeah, I do think Florida's the better team.

I think they've led like for 85% of the series.

They've had the lead, something like that.

It's a ridiculous number.

I tweeted it if you want the so the Twitter Warriors don't come after me.

No, we'll find it.

And the Twitter Warriors are always going to be out there, even whenever they're lying.

Oh, they're relentless.

They will not stop with Taylor Swift.

Like, I can't escape it.

Is it good thing or a bad thing?

The Taylor supporters on there are good.

They've been good to us, at least.

Yeah, they've been good to us.

I'm getting 50% incredible Taylor Swift fans.

So happy, so excited.

And then I've got, you know, some meatheads that are like, I had to turn off the game because you showed me.

Oh, they were in football, too.

They'll come around.

Yeah, they're just, that's an easy thing.

Yeah, the time leading in the Stanley Cup final via Jockey underscore Redmond.

Panthers, 200,

200 minutes?

Jeez.

Yeah.

To 33 minutes?

Okay.

All right.

It feels like they've been having

a paint a picture, doesn't it?

Yes, it certainly does.

Okay, so let's talk about the other end down there for the Oilers.

Seemingly, big question is: do we go back to Stu Skinner or do we keep Pickard in the net?

Anytime that decision is made, obviously it's massive.

We in Pittsburgh had an opportunity to watch Murray, Jari, everybody kind of transition during the playoffs and have great success.

Pickard comes in first start, post failing in for Stu Skin, loses 5-2.

Now, granted, it was was probably 4-1.

The goals were filthy.

Feels like the Florida Panthers are sniping.

Everything is off the post and in.

Does it matter who's the goalie?

And what do you think that the Edmonton Oilers do in that?

I think they go back to Stuart Skinner, and I think he's a gamer.

I think he'll be ready.

He's proven that before, but I don't think it matters.

I don't think

it comes down to that.

It's never come down to that coming into this final.

The Edmonton Oilers were never winning the goaltending battle.

That was never going to be an edge for them.

You got Sergei Bobrovsky at the other end.

That's a Hall of Fame goalie.

That was never going to be a strength for the Edmonton Oilers.

So I don't think it matters who they start.

They start Picker, they start Skinner.

It's not going to come down to that.

It's going to come down to the Oilers figuring out their power play because it's supposed to be a lethal weapon.

You're supposed to be afraid of taking penalties against the Oilers.

And I don't think it's been that.

I think for the most part, it's been mid.

And then, you know, Bush League, bro,

yeah, Bush.

I think the Florida Panthers are just so deep.

And I just so far, the Edmonton Oilers haven't been able to

figure out a way to sort of compete with that.

I mean, it is like shift after shift after shift.

The Panthers are relentless.

There's no weakness.

There's no hold.

Like, where do you take advantage?

You know, where do you find a spot to sort of get the Panthers on their heels?

And they're missing, you know, one of their best players in Hyman, which I think has been a big part of it too.

Like, Corey Perry is great.

40-year-old Corey Perry.

We love Corey Perry, former London right.

That's where I grew up.

He's awesome.

And him having the performance he's having is great.

But

we need him to be having that performance on the third line, not in the top six.

That's the difference, right?

Like Brad Marchand is the old guy doing it for the Panthers.

He's doing it on their

third line.

Yeah.

Playing against third liners, too, which is certainly

a better life for Brad Marchand than what he was doing with the Boston Bruins.

Whenever you consider, you know, just the entire trade, Marshan, to the Florida Panthers, Jackie, how did the people, because I know Ringside Reporter, obviously you're talking to everybody, you talk about the aura in the shit talk from the Florida Panthers, and they're doing that more than everybody.

It feels like you do know the communities and cultures around the NHL very well.

A lot of hard work to get there.

She's been covering hockey since when, Gumpy?

Since when?

2011.

Well, she's Canadian.

Oh, forever.

My whole life.

My whole life.

Did everybody think the Marshi trade was outrageous?

I think people thought it was shocking.

I think, for the most part, it was shocking that the Bruins would trade a player like Brad Marchand to a team within their division.

Like, I'm sitting over here as someone who was born and raised as a Toronto Maple Leafs fan.

I don't know.

Yikes.

Okay.

And I'm like, what?

Like, we have a chance to get this guy out of our division and you trade him to the Panthers?

Oh,

it was devastating.

I hated it.

But now, of course, I'm like, all right, Brad, go win your cup with Florida and then come over and play for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, we don't need that.

We don't need that, Jackie.

Thank you.

AJ has a question for you, Jackie.

No, it's not Maple Leafs.

No way.

You, Bobby.

Ask him.

Ask him.

He grew up a Leafs fan.

He's coming to T.L.

No, you and Bobby Roode got some pipe dreams back there in Toronto.

Go ahead, AJ.

Go ahead, AJ.

Jackie, you mentioned this Panthers team.

I mean, if they were to finish this one off,

could we call this team a dynasty team and one of those teams like we look at maybe like the New England Patriots had done a few different times?

And also, is there any slowing this team down?

What makes them not do this again next year and continue to win?

Connor was so disgusted with you just by the way.

Yeah, he's, what is that?

Hey, they're both dynasties.

Just

miss it.

Oh, I see.

I see.

I was like, wait, who's disgusted with him?

Did I say something?

No, no.

No.

No, it's a great question.

And I think absolutely, even if the Panthers lose, for me, I'm not going to say they're a dynasty, but I'm going to say that they're one of the best teams we've seen in the last 25 years, hands down, without a question.

If they win, I think they definitely deserve to be called a modern-day dynasty because they do have a lot of the important pieces in place for next season to go and do this all again.

I mean, they've got Sergei Bobrovsky, who, like I already said, was a Hall of Fame goalie.

When you have that, and then you've got some of your key pieces up front and on the back end locked up, i mean i'm not i'm not counting them out i think we could see them go on a deep run again next year and honestly like sam bennett could be back like that is a real realistic possibility depending if he is willing to maybe make a little bit less but stay in florida stay with the boys i think um you know he deserves every penny from whoever's willing to pay him if that's what he wants but you have to remember that sam bennett is a guy that came into a league as as a as a good pick a good good prospect, but like had to deal with the fact that he went to the combine and can only do one pull-up and people were making fun of this guy non-stop.

He's in Calgary.

He's buried in the lineup.

He's not getting an opportunity.

And so I think when you start your career that way as somebody who, you know, took him some time to really get to find his home, if you will.

He's founded in Florida.

He's had success.

He could potentially be a two-time cup winner after this, maybe a con smythe at home as well.

I don't know.

I don't think that, I don't necessarily think the Panthers would have to work that hard to convince Sam Bennett to return to a place where, like, they genuinely love each other, these guys.

Like, these guys, we hear it all the time, I know, in sports, like Brotherhood, blah, blah, blah.

But they lay, they truly are maybe the tightest-knit group that I've ever been around in my career in professional sports, in terms of genuinely just being like absolute friends, friends hanging out all the time i mean i don't know i i think they could convince sam bennett to stay for for if he's willing to give up a little bit of the moolah you know and we haven't even talked about the no state income tax down there in florida

you just did you just throw out an aboot no no no you sound a canadian there a little pat i'm not gonna lie you kind of said like a boot this conversation has turned into a little bit of a runaway hasn't it yeah a little bit of a runaway

let's talk about let's talk about a can an actual canadian there geez let's talk about greatness Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Jackie, last year, the narrative kind of started getting going like, hey, if Connor McDavid doesn't win this year, then we got to start having the legacy talk.

We know he's the best player in the NHL, bar none, but he hasn't won.

And I believe he's only got one goal in the finals so far this year.

If the Panthers do go on and win tomorrow night, do you think it's going to get loud that McDavid's just kind of not a winner?

He's a great player.

player, but he's he doesn't have what it takes to win a cup.

You know what?

We saw Alex Ovechkin go through this in his career, right?

Amazing, incredible player, now the greatest goal scorer of all time.

You know, it took him a long time to win.

He didn't win until 2018.

And people said that about Alex Ovechkin.

And I think there was some legitimacy to that.

Some, not a lot, but a little.

You know, they just couldn't get past the Penguins all those years.

But I think for Conor McDavid, I don't think that becomes the conversation because I think people are very aware that for the most part, I'm not really referring to the last couple of years necessarily.

I don't think he's really had the right team around him.

And in hockey, you know, this, this isn't a one-guy sport.

Like you need three lines deep at least.

You need a lot of lads.

You need a lot of lads.

You do.

You do.

And so I think he, I don't think the conversation will be, is he a winner?

Because last year he put this team on his back and they forced game seven after trailing 3-0 and he was putting up a million points every game.

I think the conversation becomes, is he going to leave?

Like, is he going to leave Edmonton when his contract

in a year's time, right?

Vegas, and so coming to Pittsburgh, Jackie.

Is that what you're hearing?

He's coming to Pittsburgh.

Oh, my God.

Listen, Brian Boucher keeps saying he's coming to Philly.

He's coming to Philly.

But you can't listen, food.

I'm never going to Philadelphia.

Nobody's going to Philadelphia except for what's that wretched-looking gritty.

Gritty, gritty, yeah.

Gritty, the mascot.

Gritty.

Gritty.

Yeah, he's stuck.

It's kind of Gritty's fault that nobody wants to go over there.

Yeah, I'd say.

I think he's got fired.

Gritty, too much moxie.

Too much moxie on Gritty.

When he lied, Gritty was having that bobbed that.

No, I don't know if he was.

He was throwing hands at that guy.

Well, the kid threw hands at him.

It was Philadelphia.

Gritty understands you could have to be Gritty about that.

He kicked the shit out of that kid.

But I think McDavid did say, I'm not going there because of Gritty.

I don't know if he did that.

I'm pretty sure

he did.

Look, I have some family in Philly.

I know that there's some very questionable spirits around Gritty.

Well, I would say that Philadelphia understands if your mascot's name is Gritty is probably gonna be a little gritty especially in Philadelphia but I guess there it is.

There it is.

McDavid doesn't want to go because of that.

Bingo.

He's worn out as well.

He has worn out as well.

Yeah.

He's worn it completely oot.

Now something that has never happened in Philadelphia during my lifetime and probably my dad's lifetime and my father's fodder's lifetime is a Staten Cup celebration in Philadelphia.

Let's talk about the two that could happen here.

Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, Jackie, try not to be biased here when I ask you this question because you did say the Panthers are so tight and they're a very, very fun bunch.

So what would be the better celebration?

It's the Florida Panthers boys and they're heading to elbow room and they're pouring beers out of the cup from the second story or a Canadian team and the Oilers winning their first cup since 1837.

Oh, yeah, 92.

I remember that.

I mean, Canada will go insane if the Oilers, like it really, this year, especially and last year, Canada is united, I would say, for the most part behind the Oilers.

They want to bring the cup back to canada even though we can get into rosters and how many canadians are actually playing for what team and all that nonsense no thank you we're talking teams here jackie

i'm i'm tired i am tired of all my american colleagues and co-workers and people just rubbing in my face the fact that a canadian team hasn't won the cup in basically my whole life um maybe not my whole life but close enough i'm so young but i so i need i i would like to see the oilers win just so that i don't have to hear it anymore um but i think the celebration would be it would be big it wouldn't be as big as if the toronto made beliefs won the cup

but it would be big it would be big deep dream yeah toronto's gonna win toronto's gonna win they're gonna do it sometime one day one day i like the outside shots of the canadian teams though to be clear like pittsburgh used to host a watch-along outside there was people there would be thousands of people i think boston does well hockey does it more so than any other sport saw it uh the fever do it actually and the pacers are doing it as well in the court that we are live from.

Always looks good.

The Canadian ones are always bananas.

It's like the whole town came out and is literally enjoying the night.

It's a beautiful thing.

I couldn't even imagine what a parade would be like up there in Edmonton.

Legitimate.

Oh, it would be crazy.

Like I kid, but honestly, Oilers fans are so passionate.

It's one of the loudest buildings I've been in

in the regular season, let alone during the Stanley Cup final.

It is insane in there.

It's insane in the moss pit outside, which is lovingly named after a former equipment, like dressing room attendant, I should say, that unfortunately passed away.

But it's named after him.

He's beloved in Edmonton, worked there, I think, 30 years, something like, I mean, he was there when Gretzky was playing.

So that tells you how long Joey Moss is there.

So I think his energy reverberates.

He's a huge wrestling fan, too, by the way.

So I think there's some aura there with that too.

But yeah, it's an awesome place to watch a hockey game

and to see them win would be wild.

They would need

a lot of police, I think.

Oh, Bonnie, Mountain.

They don't want to be under control.

Jackson triple A.

Jackie,

where are you from?

Jackie, where are you from?

And act like this is a map of Canada here.

Obviously, the United States is here.

Florida's down here.

Washington's over here.

You get it.

Canada has 13 of them things up there.

Where are you from?

So I'm from Nova Scotia, which is all the way up east, like

across from Maine and then through the province of New Brunswick is Nova Scotia.

Way over here.

Yeah, way over there.

Also the home of Brad Martian, Nathan McKinnon, and Sidney Crosby.

No big deal.

Oh, pretty good.

So you're from up here?

No.

A little bit.

Over here.

Yeah.

Can't see.

It's very bright.

I can't totally see, but.

Here's Maine.

Yeah, Maine.

Yeah, so if you go across, you'll see New Brunswick.

You got names on that, that, Matt?

NB right there.

And then Nova Scotia, right here.

NB and then Nova Scotia, correct.

Nova Scotia is right down here.

Yeah, there we go.

So Lunenburg.

Okay, so I don't live in Lunenburg, but Lunenburg is a very nice place.

Okay.

Big tourist attraction.

They have a lot of colored buildings there.

It looks like a crayon box.

This seems like somewhere we should get.

Isn't it pretty close to Maine?

Yeah, Maine.

We would love that over there.

Isn't Sydney Crosby?

Exactly what I've been saying.

Where is Sidney Crosby from in this place, Jackie?

Is it down here?

Halifax.

It's Coal Harbor.

Coal Harbor, Nova Scotia, which is very, it's around Halifax.

Please zoom out, please.

Can we zoom out a little bit?

So it's like right there, right?

That's below.

It is.

Yeah.

He's technically ours.

Nova Scotia should be part of New York High.

Ha ha ha.

I did not know.

Sidney Crosby is an American.

Holy shit.

That is awesome.

He's part of the lower 48.

We would like to contest.

We would like to contest the roster for Kayla.

I did not know that was us.

Unfortunately, once you're capped, it's over.

You can't switch.

Oh, okay.

It's over.

Oh, my God.

You guys are ridiculous.

Dude, I did not expect that.

I just popped so far.

So where's Edmonton at?

Edmonton's over way over yonder, right?

Way up there.

Yeah, you want mid-Canada.

Oh, right next to Saskatoon.

Close to Saskatoon.

You got it.

Edmonton's over here.

Think about this finals.

Oh, you know?

Far flight.

I mean, you got the Pacers in Oklahoma City playing against each other in the NBA Finals, and then the NHL is like, yep, you got an eight-hour up to Edmonton.

And then when you get there,

craziest fans in the league.

And then when you get down to Florida, it's like, don't get distracted by that beach and the goal.

That's right.

Don't be enjoying Fort Laude-Dowdy too much down there in summer.

Oh, we've been enjoying it.

Talking about the players, Jackie.

What's been going on down there?

You guys been doing the Elbow Room, Dunner?

That's the place?

The Elbow Room?

The Elbow Room is the place.

I am a professional.

I have not been there yet.

I'll go if the series ends in Florida, I'll hit up the elbow room after that.

But I haven't been there yet, but I've been to the beach.

I've been to the pool.

It's been a good time.

I'm a little sunburnt, but you know, it's good.

Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you.

Great coverage of the NHL by your entire TNT team.

Enjoy the rest of the way.

Thank you for making time.

Hey, Pat and all of you guys.

You guys are the best.

I'm a huge fan for many reasons, but one near the very top of the list is you guys make time for hockey when you don't have to.

It means so much to the sport.

I really appreciate it.

And I think a lot of hockey fans do.

So thank you for giving hockey attention.

We love you for it.

I'll clap.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Very nice of you.

Very nice of you.

I appreciate it.

We love talking about

talking about hockey.

We love our hockey.

We love our hockey.

I'll do the American accent.

But before I go, I'm just going to drop one nugget.

I have a good source claiming that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey will be in the house for game six.

So

get excited.

Jackie and Redmond on the news, breaking.

Taylor Swift turns.

Not confirmed, but according to a good source.

Hey, who do they?

They don't need a Miami Dolphins player on that drum.

I think they're completely deafeated.

0-7 when the Dolphins beat the drum.

So maybe get Travis.

Would Kelsey do it?

Would he do it?

I mean, they would have to lift that thing up six feet in the air with how tall that son of a bitch has become.

I mean, he is so tall

out there.

But

I think anytime she's in a building, positive vibes seems like that's kind of the case.

They lose that last one, though.

Yeah, exactly.

Last year, Luongo banged the drum, giving him seven, I believe, for them to win.

So maybe he kind of.

Massive mitts.

Remember?

Oh, yeah.

Massive mitts.

He hit me in the shoulder at WWE.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, move.

I have no idea if this guy's going to fight me or not.

Great.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, Jackie Redmond.

Thank you, Jackie.

That one was on me.

I remember very specifically burying Roberto Luongo last year.

So if you took any flack for that, hand up.

My bad.

Yeah,

that's the interesting thing about this show.

You know, because my name's on it.

So I guess that is certainly a part of it.

And I'm lucky for that, obviously.

But yeah, anything gets said on here by anybody that's on here.

Normally it makes its way to the person.

Hey, you hear what for Pat McAfee?

McAfee is, it is cronies.

I heard they said.

Are you going to take context?

Are you going to ask for context as well?

Are you just going to hear it completely out of context?

I don't need context.

I heard what I heard.

It's like, I think with us, you need context a little bit.

Help.

It definitely helps.

It does help.

It helps.

You need a a little bit of context.

Story written about me.

It's like, don't you think there should be some context to this?

Just a bit.

Entire, don't you?

Don't we think?

We are a show of context.

That is

something that is a necessity, I think.

Is that what journalism is about?

I think so.

I think, right?

Speaking of, we have a request in.

I don't know if Travis Kelsey is going to be able to make it.

Yeah, why?

Because he's in cons?

He's in cons.

The long flies.

Kelsey.

Is it

Florida to Khan's, south of France?

Sweet shirt.

Is that closer?

Very fashionable.

Travis always looks good.

Except for sometimes.

There's some of the outfits that don't.

But he knows that too.

Most of the time, looks incredibly fly.

Somebody actually said that they were checking into a hotel and in front of them were the Kelsey brothers.

And they're the size of buildings over there at Khan's Film Festival.

A lot of actors and musicians over there.

I couldn't imagine Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelsey walking around, especially with this new height that this guy has.

Yeah.

New heights.

New heights, if you will.

There you go.

He has gone to different levels.

But how, Florida to Khan's or Florida to Edmonton?

What's longer flight?

So to Khan's, it says it's 11 hours and 35 minutes.

That is longer.

Yes.

Than

Florida to Edmonton.

That's what the Google is

longer.

What does Fort Lauderdale to Edmonton say?

Let me see.

Right now to Edmonton.

Well, you know what the world's curvature.

Yep.

Okay, so southern states trying to get to Europe, they have to battle the curvature of the earth.

Okay, there's going to be people really mad that I said that

there's going to be people that are really mad that I said that, but that is something that they calculate for.

Unless they're just flying in circles up there to waste time,

that is something that they have.

Because if you're from the northern part of America, normally you're going up a little bit, a little shot clock, so we can use a smaller earth, you know, like an arch of a shot over there.

So maybe that's why going to Edmonton.

A little over eight hours.

Okay, so both halls.

Yeah, and is that that eight hours, including the two you get back?

So is it 10?

I'm always confused.

Is it strictly flight time?

It's got to be flight time.

And then flying back, you would think there'd be a little bit of a jet stream west to east in the United States of America, a little bit.

You'd probably catch some over-the-planes, you know, coming down through the Midwest.

You'd probably catch a little bit of a booster seat there.

You know,

get going.

That's always a nice piece of information to have.

Hey, we got 500 knots up there behind us.

Tonight's going to be 45 minutes shorter than the flight out here.

Yeah, flying west.

Something.

Dumpy, how long was that flight to San Diego?

We took?

Oh, we had.

Maybe 11 hours.

Yeah, we went backwards.

It felt like we were just a nightmare.

Just hovering above America forever.

I mean, that was scheduled to be 4.45, I think, 5.

Might have been 7.

Well, we also went back three hours and still didn't help at all.

Yeah, we missed the meeting completely.

Phenomenal.

The only ones that weren't at the meeting.

What happened?

Well, I think we were stuck over goddamn Rockies.

Yeah.

I think I.

You tell me where the wind wind was.

We were sitting in it up there, just like a kite, just flying around America.

It was insane.

A lot of big news happening around the sports world.

Caitlin Clark is back.

Caitlin, it was great to see you back on court.

Great to see you back.

There you go.

How about her saying the entire time she was out with an injury?

She didn't say this.

The world witnessed this.

Nobody talks about WNBA.

Okay.

More people should have.

It's a great sport.

I agree.

Caitlin Clark's not playing.

Nobody.

Okay.

Nobody.

Caitlin Clark comes back.

Everybody.

Yep.

Everybody.

You know know why?

Because as she was away healing the Hammond, I think she got better at shooting.

She was best shooter in league.

Now somehow she gets better at shooting.

They had the distances that she pulled up on Beastu, and Beastu laughed at her.

And even a coach in the background for the Liberty laughed and clapped about what was happening.

She was clearing out entire halves of the court one-on-one throughout the entire game.

She's pulling up from the logo.

Obviously, she is somebody that has a logo on a court in Iowa because that's where she just pulled up from.

She's shooting NBA threes, Steph Curry range threes on a very regular basis.

First game back, has nine points, I think, in 12 seconds.

Three straight threes from that logo right there, the WNBA Commissioners Cup, which we're probably going to win no big deal.

Shout out to the Fever.

Caitlin Clark is back.

The WNBA, I assume, is going to ride the high of the ratings to push the rest of this season through.

And what a time here in Indianapolis.

They host watch parties outside of the arena for regular season games for the Fever when Caitlin is playing.

People fill up not only the arena, people travel into Indianapolis, buy like a $5 ticket that gets donated just so they can watch Caitlin outside on a basketball court that is near the arena.

Whenever LeBron James says the CC effect, we feel it here in Indianapolis, maybe more so than anywhere, but the league feels it as a whole.

And it's only becoming more and more obvious.

And I'm pumped up about that because when you have a superstar like this, you have to treat it as such.

Like, hey, this is, this is, and I think it's becoming way too obvious.

And uh, we're lucky as hell for it out here in Indiana, AJ.

That little stretch she had with the threes and just these gig, like the shots that she takes and that she makes look like routine, just it blows my mind right there.

Like, are you serious?

Like, what are we doing?

Give me that.

Also, New York just scored.

Tyrese Halliburton, quick inbound.

She's running.

She's not scared to run.

Her Iowa teams ran.

I mean, they ran teams out of the gym.

She would have those full court passes at Iowa that made me believe, like, oh, when she gets a WNBA, and no offense to the Iowa Hawkeyes women's basketball team, but obviously there are some better basketball players that are taller maybe and a little bit more athletic.

They were at other schools that are going to be in the WNBA.

No offense to the Hawkeyes.

So I just couldn't even imagine the passes that she was going to be able to do.

Caitlin will pull this thing from one foul shot line to the other, full court passes.

She is a like, the style of play.

is what you are kind of hypnotized by.

And she seems to have an unflappable confidence.

And she's back and there's no rust, Ty Schmidt.

Yeah, she's a complete player too.

I think she had nine rebounds and eight assists.

So like a lot of people, you know, or people that don't like her, I think, just say that she just chucks shots up from deep.

But it was also cool post-game seeing Sabrina Ionescue and Brianna Stewart like...

You know, they were, they were genuinely happy for her.

Like, yeah, this league is better when she's playing.

So it was awesome that in her first game back, she did what she did.

And I think we are kind of getting to the point where the, I mean, I don't know, jealousy is a weird thing to say, but like people realize how how important she is to the league I think there was like you're gonna have to prove it to me yeah I did a little off-season research on this I'm like hey how come they won't just say it how come they won't just say like she's the one and the conversation goes to there's been a lot of these supposed to be the one supposed to be the one supposed to be the one so I think the OGs if you will the old guard of the WNBA was like you're gonna have to show me you're gonna have to show me and then now with everything that has kind of happened remember she was getting full court press last year remember there was a shot of the girl She was in between shooting two at the free throw line, and she was so worried about a rookie, Caitlin Clark, that she shoots her first free throw.

Ah,

they're like, lady, you got to shoot another one.

Sorry.

You wait.

You know what's coming.

And he was like, yeah, she took everybody's best shots, keeps going.

I think this FIFA team have a chance to go to run.

And then, you know, you know what that means.

Thinking about a parade?

Two parades?

Nine points.

Not again.

What?

Not again.

What are you talking about?

It was really fun after game three, you know, being like, hold on.

You know, we're all believers now.

It's 2-1.

Don't look now.

And then during that fourth quarter, I think we all saw what happened.

Everyone on the pacers' bench is looking around like,

it's sunshine and rainbows around here.

This is going to be fun when we start having a parade.

And then, oh, 31-17, OKC in the fourth, they blow a lead.

All of a sudden, it's 2-2.

We're going back to Oklahoma City.

You're saying less parade thinking.

That cool parade thought turned into, oh my God, my offseason's two months shorter now.

You said the parade thinking was like Kool-Aid drinking.

Everybody was a little bit too misguided on what the reality of the situation was.

Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, exactly.

I need more players thinking about, you know, actually scoring baskets than thinking about, you know, parades in Solitaire.

Okay.

I need to be thinking of three-point shots going in the hoop from Aaron Neese.

Solitaire is going, dang, you can move that pretty quick, Chris.

You can double tap at the end.

My brother actually used to play Solitaire on our house computer, which was in the kitchen.

Kids don't understand this.

This is what it was back in the day.

House computer was in the kitchen.

Kitchen was obviously located or connected to the living room.

Living room connected to a small closet to my bedroom.

Okay, so my brother was two rooms away, but basically one short hallway away.

He was playing Solitaire at night.

He's a tappy bastard, disc character.

Oh yeah.

He's tapping.

He must have a world speed record on Solitaire.

I mean, I could hear that mouse clicking

as he was dragging those.

Those games fly.

I think Jason McAfee would get through a Solitaire hand faster than anybody on earth whenever he was about 17, maybe 18 years old, because I heard every click in my bedroom as I was trying to fall asleep.

And whenever I saw, I didn't even know you could play it on your phone.

No idea.

I didn't even think about that.

I got GTA on my phone.

I'm playing GTA on my phone, running around, driving cars and stuff.

Maybe some other stuff happening.

Yeah, there's a chance.

What do you mean?

You think Jay could finish a whole Solitaire game in a 30-second timeout, too?

I think he could.

I think Jason McFee could.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't think everybody, I think a lot of this generation maybe had no idea that that game still exists.

I mean, maybe.

I don't know.

Play a lot of cards.

But the fact that he's still committed to the game, I respect it.

And you don't think he's doing research.

He's definitely doing research.

Has to.

Who, Jay?

No, not Jay.

We're talking about Stephen Jay Smith.

I appreciated Stephen A.

I called him out.

He didn't, you know.

There was no anger.

He's like, yeah, this is how it is.

Guy dressed as dumb and dumber with Kendrick Perkins and Stephen A.

Just rolled with the punches those two i respect that i like that these are good things not bad things you know as they roll those two paid at least 250 000 for those tickets so much money for those tickets they did that so much hats off to them so much money that had to be a quarter of a million dollars well they just found a samsonite briefcase with a bunch of money in it yeah you're right they go swimming swammy swimming samsonite that's it the um the thought of them then okay we got a quarter million dollars in tickets what do we do now we gotta make a statement that's true that's a good statement what's good statement they had so many other ideas

i believe there was probably uh three stooges type right sure yep yep it was only two of us

500 000 three tickets

well you can do two and as soon as they thought of dumb and dumb they're like brilliant i'll be stephen a you're perkins yeah and then they sit front row and they look magnificent i mean this is this was genius and perkins stephen a to their credit kept rolling yeah kept rolling with the punches i enjoy that joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who might know a little bit more about that particular story on who those two dudes were but certainly about everything else happening around the NBA.

Senior insider for the NBA on ESPN, ladies and gentlemen, Sean Sharonya.

Yes, Sean.

Whoa, Shams, you look so cool right now.

Jeez.

You know what?

I was actually trying to get on the court for you guys

before my Sports Center hit, but I'm not going to be able to right now.

But we're in this quiet room.

I feel like I'm in a...

I'm trapped somewhere.

Yeah, Sports Center at 2 o'clock.

We appreciate you joining us here to wrap up hour two.

Let's get right into it.

Anything we need to know about tonight's game that we should be thinking about that you're hearing while Boots on the ground in Oklahoma City?

I feel like what we saw

in game four, I mean,

the bench, you know, with the thunder, the way that they played, I mean, to me, it just comes down.

Can the Pacers bench have the same type of effort, the same type of production we saw in game three?

How will that balance itself out?

But listen, when you have Chet Holmgren, Jay Dub, Dubb, and Shea play at the level that they played at,

I mean, it's really going to come down to the big threes in the benches.

So very interested to see how tonight's game goes.

Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Shams, with SGA, we see that like whatever you do to try to stop this guy, when the time matters, this guy finds a way to take over.

I love watching these crazy mid-range shots.

He can do everything, I feel like, with the body control he has.

What can these Pacers do?

And what do you expect, I guess, from Shea moving forward in these next couple games?

AJ, I mean, at the end of the day, you just have to hope that he just struggles from the field.

I mean, we've seen a couple off games from him in the playoffs, but there haven't been many.

Maybe two, three at most over the course of this run to the finals.

He's so cerebral.

His game is so compact.

He's got the mid-range shot.

He's shooting the three.

He obviously can get to the foul line, like fans want to give him a hard time for.

I find his game aesthetically pleasing.

I find his game to be one of the, like, like you think about guys like Kobe, I mean, in terms of the mid-range shot, KD's, you know, been revolutionary for the mid-range jumper as well.

So I look at Shea Gilles Alexander as a complete offensive player.

And on most nights, even on nights when he's struggling to start the game, like he's able to be a complete player, complete closer for that Thunder team.

Yeah, I looked up at the stats and he had 18 points and I'm like, he hasn't, I feel like we had him contained.

And I look up and he's already scored 18 points and I'm like.

This guy's unbelievable.

And then he takes 16 steps and nobody calls anything.

And then you just think to yourself, wow, he's able to do whatever he wants.

Was that an offensive file, though?

Was that an offensive foul?

Are you talking about when he punched him in the head like?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, let me punch Neesmith in the mouth.

Let me gather myself, gather myself, gather myself.

50-50 call, but that was uh, that was pretty egregious, right?

Well, and then he gathered himself and gathered himself and couldn't gather himself, so he had to continue to gather himself, and then he gathered himself again.

I mean, there's four gathers, right?

I think that's a lot of gathers.

I mean, I don't know how many, and he's running directly away from the hoop, so I, you know, it's

it's it's not that's a nice shot, though.

That's a nice nice shot.

No, I don't think that's a travel, though.

No, it doesn't look like that.

All right, I agree.

But whatever you want to call it, this dude is unstoppable.

I felt this way against Jalen.

It's fun to watch these types of guys.

Now, people get pissed off about them going to the foul line.

There were 71 foul shots in that game.

We can't have that.

That's not what we're here for.

That's not what we're here for.

Can't have it.

Okay.

Just as somebody that is not a full-time basketball person that, you know, tries to understand your game as best as I possibly can.

Just know from our world, the NFL's world, nobody wants to watch the refs take over a game.

Okay?

Correct.

Nobody.

So let's just, let's have a good basketball game tonight and let the boys play.

Swallow the whistle.

Let TJ McConnell come in here with a European upper coat if he wants to.

If he wants to do it, I'll let the boys play out there because I think Dags and I think Carlisle are going to have him ready to go tonight.

Because the Oklahoma is the one.

We've seen that, though, for most of the playoffs.

We've seen the refs allow physicality.

We've seen refs allow things to happen.

So in that case, that was physical play.

Now you wanted to,

the biggest thing is having it called the same way on the opposite end of the floor when Tyrese has similar plays.

Yes.

You know, Hobie or some of the other guys.

So it's just consistency is the one thing I hear from coaches and players.

If you're going to call it one million of that on that side of the court, call it the same one on the other.

Yeah, it's very, very difficult, obviously, to officiate.

So good luck to all parties.

Let's move along.

We only have a few minutes.

You only have a few minutes.

A lot of things to talk about.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Shams, the Desmond Bain trade, is that kind of like the first thing to really like start the tidal wave of all these different trades?

You mentioned last week on the show, hey, the Durant trade could happen at any time.

And now if you look at like NBA Central, they have so many tweets about, oh, this player is getting shopped.

This player is potentially getting traded.

Like, are we about to see a bunch of trades in the next few days to few weeks here?

We're definitely going to get a bunch of trades.

I don't know exactly when, but listen, I think from Kevin Durant was the biggest domino that we've been talking about, the biggest available domino.

And that's still out there.

That could could be really any day at this point now, could be sometime this week.

We'll see.

The biggest thing is, will they play that closer to the NBA draft on June 25th?

Or will there be a deal that hits their threshold and they're able to get a deal done before that point?

But I mean, the Bain deal is something

not many people in the league expected, but you think about it from Memphis' perspective, it allowed them to get all these draft assets.

I mean, that's a major haul that they're able to get.

And now they can use those picks to continue to build.

From my understanding, the Grizzlies are signaling privately that they want to continue to build around Jaron Jackson Jr.

and John Morant, that that is their plan, that's their intention.

And this is a move for them to pivot away from that quarter three that we've seen with Bain, Morant, and Jackson and kind of have more youth and have more flexibility.

They have to pay Jaron Jackson Jr.

this offseason and that allows them to do so.

And everything they've done is to build around John Morant, like firing Taylor Jenkins, having Tuomos Isolo be the new head coach.

That was for John Morant, from my understanding.

That's to allow the Grizzlies' offense to have more free-flowing style.

And now I think what we're going to see is two through four.

They're going to try to be very defensive-oriented, defensive-minded there.

Like Jalen Wells, that's a guy who might not be a household name quite yet.

He was one of the guys for rookie of the year runner-ups.

And he's someone that they have high hopes for.

Like, that's a guy that I believe the Grizzlies feel is their starting two guard of the future.

And so, if you have those aspirations, you need to make sure that you're good from a financial component because you talk about the the second apron, you talk about the first apron, and having Desmond Bain on a max contract along with Jaron Jackson's big deal, along with John Morant's max contract, it makes team building very difficult.

We'll have you on in the future and talk about the apron talk because that feels like that's a big deal whenever it comes to trades and who you're paying and how you're doing.

Just to clear it up, though, like everyone wants to make a big deal about like draft picks, right, versus versus trading.

I saw you talking earlier with Q Rich, right?

Like last year, we saw Mikhail Bridges go for, what was it, five first-round picks, and the Nets got Boyan Bogdanovich.

Boyan Bogdanovich was not a player for the Nets this season.

Like he was a non-factor.

So they got those five first-round picks.

In this case,

you give up Desmond Bain, you get four first-round picks and a swap.

And at that point, you get two players that you feel like can help you now a little bit, but they're doing the deal because of the haul of the draft picks.

You think about Luka Doncha is that Anthony Davis trade.

If you put Anthony Davis on the open market right now, he's fetching you four or five first-round picks right now.

So I think it's about, do you want to trade for the player or do you want to trade for the picks?

And obviously in Dallas's perspective, they want to trade for the player.

So

each trade is different.

The Phoenix trade is going to be totally different as well.

Okay, you nailed it.

You actually sent us out right on perfect time.

And I know you got to get to Sports Center, which is in three minutes or so.

What you're saying is the Anthony Davis Luca trade, people are obviously commenting because what Bain just went for, but Dallas right now could get five picks for AD.

So Luca actually went for five first rounders or six first rounders if you were to do the math, including AD on top of that so i respect it but the way you guys just toss around draft picks is yeah it's it's wild it's wild

it's wild and yarnist what is 100 first rounders yeah is yarnist worth 100 first rounders for the rest of the time there are teams out there that would give between

four and six first round picks easy for yon to takeo

man you guys are crazy over there

don't care about it yeah legit what you don't they don't care about the first round they don't really value the first round picks unless they're top three or what?

If you're giving up those amounts of first-round picks, you're probably not also going to give like a ton of young players and things like that, right?

So it's like, it's, it's all, it's all a balance based on just value and what you see fit.

So you like your young players, so we're not going to need to add any new young players.

So we'll give up four or five years' worth of young players to raise our young players and get a megastar in here with our guys.

So they will basically supplement your draft class.

Got it.

All right.

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Makes no sense.

I guess if you feel like you can get a franchise guy, you're willing to give up five years worth of picks.

Well, also, if you like your young guys.

Yeah.

Which I think is what he said there.

Like we have, because there's only so many players i guess on the roster you know and the amount of money they're allowed to pay i guess the apron thing apron conversation shows up but we talk about the eighth player on the bench getting paid ninth player on the bench getting paid it's like that might be a young guy that they've kind of kept in there so instead of replacing him with a new draft pick each year like we do in the nfl we replace the bottom 25 spots on every team with young guys because they're cheaper sounds like some nba teams like we actually like the bottom half of our roster let's just let them grow and then uh

yeah we'll sacrifice that 2051 first round or two yep yeah don't want to

that's what's so weird sometimes it's like the celtics at times have had players in the g league be you know first team g league whatever the hell it is first team all nba but all g all g there you go but they never

they never end up actually making it with the celtics so that's why how do you even know when you like your young core because if they perform well in the g league you don't even know if they're going to turn out to someone else.

I just assume I didn't even think about the G League.

I guess that's probably where I should be thinking first, but it's like I'm talking about the end of the bench.

Yeah, yeah, no, I know.

That's what I'm like, like Bronny.

He almost came into my mind because they had like a full plan this year for Bronny to get reps down in the G League, and then he's going to get experience as an NBA player.

So you can watch your dad work every day, which I guess is

from the sounds of it, his work ethic is fucking phenomenal.

Isn't that kind of a weird thing?

That every person that is,

you know.

Yeah, and by weird you mean makes complete sense and there's no

people don't just fall into being a superstar.

You don't just have, you don't just wake up and become a superstar.

You have to absolutely, all the best of them absolutely work for it.

Yeah, I think you

any

bucket of life that you choose to get into, any bucket, you can name it.

Now, granted, there are head starts.

God bless you.

The Pope gave a great sermon about sports.

So we'll say the sports bucket is certainly one of them, but any bucket of life, and some people certainly have head starts, certainly, no doubt about it.

That's just a fact of life.

You need to understand that.

The networks that are created from some families are going to give them a head start in a lot of businesses, especially in businesses where you need to have a good network to have success.

So there's certainly going to be head starts.

But once you get past the mindset of like, oh, it's not fair.

And you go, all right, they have a head start, but let's see if we can fucking catch them.

It's like work ethic is the only thing.

Like work ethic is the only

common factor in every single bucket for massive success.

Like it really is.

And, you know, consistent success, too.

Don't you?

I think to be consistent year after year after year, like there's some people that pop up for a year or two.

Yeah.

But if they're not going to do what it takes and continue to do what it takes to stay at that level or continue to get better, that's where you see people fall off.

That's why it's so impressive what guys like LeBron have been able to do.

20 years, still the first one in, last one out, loudest one in there i guess every practice he's full go every rep

it's like then they tell stories about the mamba mentality obviously and michael jordan what he's doing and then you go into football and it's like i watched bait manning and that guy was a robot that was unbelievable running sprints during the punt period which is supposed to be like down period for offense defense because special teams is on the full field And this massive dome is just helmet on, full pads, full pads, helmet on, on, sprinting back and forth, running gassers in the middle of practice.

And it's like him and the quarterbacks are the only ones doing it.

Nobody else is doing it.

And it's like, out of all the people, obviously, no wasted second, it's this guy.

And then the film, the story about, you know, having a movie theater basically attached to his bedroom because, you know, hey, 2 a.m.

might pop up.

I got a question.

Thank you so much.

Clyde Christensen, quarterback coach of the Colts.

Yeah, you better answer a fucking call too at 2 a.m.

I got it.

I need an answer because there's some film going on.

It's like that in their stories of Tom Brady.

And then obviously obviously you think about Bill Belichick.

And they can go through any sport, I would assume.

Yeah.

I mean, it's the same story.

Wayne, you talk about it in hockey.

I literally asked him, hey, did you ever look back and wonder why you were better than everybody?

And it's like an uncomfortable question.

But I wanted to get to like, hey, why do you think it worked for you?

Maybe it didn't work.

And he was like, practice, work.

Everything's just like work, work, work, work, work.

And it's very rarely something that's spotlighted for kids.

I'm watching all these kids' shows.

You know, trying to teach them everything.

It's like, hey, when can we get some work?

Hey, you're going to have to fucking work now.

Like, this is how the world operates.

It's a crazy thing to kind of realize, I think, for a lot of people.

Yeah, I mean, we've been seeing that a bunch with Scotty Scheffler lately.

He's done with his round, and then he's out on the pract on either the practice screen or the driving range.

No one else is around him.

Sometimes he's leading the tournament and he's staying there until the sun goes down.

And like, I don't know if anyone else saw it.

Like, there was a new Rolex commercial that was incredible that was about him and just kind of like his career path.

And like, same deal.

He wasn't like, he wasn't like the most sought-after amateur he what he kind of just like he's just grinded and like put the work in and put the work in and put the work in and now they're talking about like he might he's arguably the best golfer since tiger yeah let's talk about tiger think about what tiger's work ethic was they talked about his

his work ethic was too off was off the chart so much he hurt himself yeah ruined his back how'd you hurt your back i don't know i'm up 5 a.m every single morning working on my wedges then i do 3 000 putts uh then i get the driver out then i play 26 holes uh then i have a workout then i massage then i putt again then i chip again he was like doing that since he was like this big trading with the seals yeah for mentally getting after yeah and then serena williams and venus williams we watch that movie about it it's like you gotta work man that's why i like the people now like shufflers i feel like it's in that bucket like carlo carlos alcaraz like for how young he is scoot scootie's the same too because he's still in his 20s but for how young carlos alcaraz is and for the guys that he's going up against like scotty i I guess, did he ever get to play against Tiger?

But even then, Tiger was, you know, it was after his action and everything.

Like, Carlos Alcaraz is going up against these dudes who are in their late 30s, which is an advantage for him, but still cool that you get to see like the two generational talents.

It's why we got to appreciate what we're watching.

So much fucking work is going into that.

Like, Caitlin Clark doesn't just,

you know, enter this world.

and have the ability to pull up from the parking lot.

It's like the amount of...

Yeah.

To have that confidence, too, the amount of.

I mean, SGA.

Like, SGA, I get like the foul stuff and him pushing off.

Anytime he drives to the right and pulls up right at the foul line, it's automatic.

It feels as though that type of basketball hasn't been around from a guard in a while just because it's so many three-pointers.

But when he drives to the hole and when he pulls up, it is magical.

And he wasn't a top pick.

He got traded there, which is even cooler.

Yeah, sports are awesome.

Shout out to Mr.

Pope.

Did you see?

AJ, did you see?

He's awesome.

That was beautiful.

You opened up the show with it.

That was awesome.

I felt obligated to.

Like, hey, you know why we do this?

Because we love sports.

Somebody broached the subject to me that some people

who cover sports don't love sports.

Really?

Whoa.

I didn't even think of that.

I was like, why would these...

Why would you do it?

It'd be a miserable existence if you didn't.

But I guess that exists.

I did not know that.

I didn't think about it.

Like, if I taught like a math class, that'd be like how I would feel.

Yeah, in general, any teaching.

There's a lot of teachers that hate kids, though.

Yeah.

Do they grow to hate kids?

They had to love them when they first got in, right?

That might be the same thing.

I don't know.

I think I had a couple teachers.

It was their first year, and they fucking hated my guts immediately on me in that classroom.

Those journalists might have grown to hate their sport because of how much it's changed.

A little jaded and it all.

Yeah.

Shout out to the Pope, though.

Hey, sports Pope is a good thing.

Love you, Pope.

Absolutely.

And talking about us over me, I mean, that goes to work ethic and like everything teaches us how to lose.

I love it.

He says it teaches us how to lose.

That is absolute.

that has to happen.

A little adversity comes into your life.

How are you going to handle it?

Well, there's another game coming.

So you're going to have to get over this at some point because we got to.

That's going to wake me up in the morning.

The fact that I did lose.

Yeah.

And also, when you're tired, you're going to have to fucking.

Yep.

Yeah, but I don't feel my.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And what?

So none of us do.

We got to.

Just the fact that we have a current Pope who's wearing a fucking fitted white socks hat with his robes.

Like, I thought that was photo shop, but it's like, nope, that's real.

This is fucking awesome.

Hey, Mr.

Pope, we appreciate it.

Yeah.

Hey, yeah, Leo.

I've been told I am allowed to call him Mr.

Pope because I knew there was a ranking system.

You know, like whenever I put the Mr.

Amen, Mr.

Pope, amen thing out.

A lot of people, I seen you should be calling him father.

Uh-uh, he was father a long time ago.

Yeah.

He's no longer.

Beneath him.

Yeah.

His last stage he was at was cardinal.

And then he became Mr.

Pope.

But you can also call Mr.

Pope also.

You know, His Excellency,

Holiness.

yeah the holiest of holies his holiness was there an essence or something what was the uh your it's it the the internet is saying if you were to address him in person uh it would be your holiness or holy father

holy

father

as long as you're not saying something like negative or like disparaging you can have whatever relationship with the pope you want that's kind of why catholicism is awesome so he's kind of the tribal chief of the catholics correct he's got the ula fala yes he does in this case a fitted white sock cap is the ceremonial ulafala.

Okay.

What are the chains?

Are the chains all the same?

Just swag.

Moxie.

Yeah.

Got a little sauce on the poke.

Exactly.

A little sauce on the sports poke.

I like what he's doing.

I like what he's preaching.

Yeah.

Anytime you're preaching sports as like a part of being good for society, I'm about it.

Because there's people that don't like sports.

What do they do?

We'll never know.

All right.

We'll be back tomorrow.

We will never know.

We will never know.

Big game tonight.

AJ, Oklahoma City,

hosts the Indiana Pacers, the Thunder, nine and a half point favorites at home in front of what's going to be allowed.

The fuck.

Are you okay?

You've been bopping the shit out of your mic.

Yeah, this whole thing is messed up.

I'm sorry about that.

What is it?

I'm working through it.

I'm working on it.

It feels like you're doing a lot of this right now.

Years ago, now, you remember a couple years ago, I had a thing completely failed.

I just held the mic on for the whole show.

i'm working through something like that right now we're good i got it we'll figure it out something's going on your rig the hawks sorry the hawks thrive under adversity that's right we do yeah we try to earlier you didn't get you didn't mute your mic and i heard you just bopping that thing over there i'm trying to

not the coughing not even the coughing you were just bopping the out of it yeah and then we kind of cough a little bit later feels like you've been kind of going through it over there we appreciate you battling through some adversity with that being said the pacers are gonna have to battle through some adversity over there in oklahoma city their fans showed up up at 3.30 a.m.

to greet the team as they flew back to Oklahoma to host game

five of the NBA Finals presented by YouTube TV.

Nailed that.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

AJ, who do you like?

How do you like it?

Huh?

Man, so honestly, I still feel good about the Pacers winning this one.

The Pacers were in control last game.

This one, they're going to have to weather the storm early.

We know that place is going to be on fire, no question.

Let's find a way to quiet the crowd down late in the game when it matters.

Late in the third, just hang hang around.

Third, take the lead, midway through the fourth, take this thing home.

Pacers win.

Okay, Pacers money line, me too.

Plus nine and a half is real nice, though.

Yeah.

But that is not advice.

No.

Or a pick.

I'm just telling you what I'm doing.

Exactly.

Shout out to my daughter painting this dinosaur.

Roar.

Hire.

Nice.

Roar.

Hope you had a great Father's Day.

AJ, we wished you happy Father's Day earlier.

Thank you.

Happy Father's Day to you guys as well.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Oh, look at at Jesus.

That's Jesus dancing next to the dinosaur, and

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Now,

the DoorDash relationship has become a little bit too much, I've realized.

What do you mean?

I ordered a smoothie earlier.

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And I looked at the price.

I don't know, man.

I hear you.

I'm spending a lot on there.

But you didn't even think twice, and you just did it.

No, I fucking double-tapped that thing and scanned my face.

Exactly.

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Let's add the express for five bucks.

Yeah, express for sure.

$2.99, of course.

Of course.

If fucking need is, is it still going to be cold?

Probably not.

Fucking A, three bucks for that?

Of course.

Convenience fee, go ahead and shit.

It is lunacy how much we're paying for DoorDash.

I mean, it's fucking great business.

That is why.

You're paying for convenience.

You're paying for them to bring it to you.

Yeah.

Don't look at the price if you're doing it.

Right, no.

Can't do it.

And then the tip part, you know, some of the places are like percentages, some of them are actual dollars.

So, I always want to do more than whatever is offered.

So, I go one dollar more than whatever's offered, okay?

Whatever the highest one is.

Every once in a while, I'll drop into percentage, though, and then I don't know what the actual number is.

And I type in what the number is, and I go, Holy shit, I'm paying how much for what here?

Oh, yeah, holy fuck, man.

And when they're working for other apps, too, and they're doing four other deliveries, that's the worst thing of all time.

Yeah, we can't be getting hustled, but I'm paying $2.99.

So, that fucker ain't seeing the time.

Yeah.

Okay.

They don't need to be hustled.

We have, we've caught a few out here.

Oh, yeah.

We let them know, though, AJ.

I don't know how you talk to your DoorDash delivery people.

We let them know that we know.

We know the game you're playing.

Don't like it.

Don't like it at all.

Got four people in that car.

How come you all got phones out?

And how come you all got orders?

Yeah, what's going on?

I don't like that.

I've never confronted him, never talked to him.

We just tell them, we just do a we know.

We do a we know.

We know.

And also, you spelled the whole fucking thing.

Yeah, thanks.

I appreciate your service.

I tipped you big.

Would you like the rate?

No.

I just fucking would like my next thing to come at a wild price.

It is a great app, though.

I've had to go pick it up at neighbor's houses.

I've had to go, like, I see they dropped it off like a neighbor's house two neighborhoods over, and I got to go sneak onto somebody's porch and grab it without them knowing.

Yeah, you're looking for the picture to try to match.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

Front door.

That happens.

They have gotten lazier.

I will say that.

What's that?

I mean, they're supposed to drop it.

It's called DoorDash.

You're supposed to drop it off at the fucking door.

When we order here and you go outside and these people just sit in their cars and wait for it, it's like, uh-uh.

That's not how this works.

It's raining.

Get your ass out of the car and bring it over to the door.

They think you're dashing to their door.

Bingo.

Wrong dash.

Not car door dash, okay?

It's door dash.

My door.

Yeah.

And $3.99.

Yeah, exactly.

I don't like.

We know.

Great app, though.

Yeah, great.

Changed it.

Changed everything.

Change everything.

Amazon, obviously, game changer.

People who like to shop, who I might live with one,

will, and I'm not talking about the two-year-old.

Sure.

Sure.

Will love the convenience of being able to get anything at any time.

And what you're also signing up for is more cardboard boxes.

A lot more.

I've become, I worked at a pizza shop whenever I was younger, Dallas House Pizza.

One of the things was making the boxes, you know, because it was just flat.

And then breaking down the boxes.

I'm doing that with fucking Amazon boxes, just fucking breaking these things down because they're just eating up the whole garbage can.

Got four items in the garbage can before that thing's fucking flopped open.

What is it?

Well, it's three Amazon deliveries.

What the fuck did we get?

Oh, wait a jump rope.

I fucking needed it.

Sweet.

I fucking needed it.

You gotta start burning them.

You gotta burn the boxes.

Control burn.

It takes time, though.

It takes time.

I like that idea.

I remind a nice fire.

Yeah, good fire.

I wish Amazon would offer a service to come pick up the boxes from you.

Like, you pay a monthly fee, fee,

put your boxes out like the garbage men.

They come and pick them up.

Box dash.

Fall them off and get rid of them.

I'll say

the new garbage men

at the noon neighborhood, they're a pretty inconsistent group.

Really?

Okay.

I never knew that.

Like showing up for.

Yeah.

Really?

The time in which they arrive

is not the same.

That's a wild thing.

You should be able to set your wash to that.

That's what I always thought.

Yeah.

That's how my guys are, thankfully.

I thought that's how the thing was.

Should be.

I'll tell you what, one time, we got a 6.30 arrival.

A.M.

One time.

One time, we got a 6.30 p.m.

arrival.

That's weird.

Yeah, I'm in the middle of it.

I'm trying to figure out the cadence.

I would like to talk to him.

Like, hey, what is the kind of the deal?

What's going on?

Best time here.

Is it when you guys are traveling around in the neighborhood?

Like,

how do I know when I need to be out here?

Because the 5.45 scramble.

Sure.

Yeah.

Don't love that.

It's not.

You hear them three houses down.

You start spritting out and getting all your stuff.

Oh, Oh, no.

Oh, no.

They're early.

They're early.

Life, so good.

Yesterday was so awesome.

Took a walk with Mackenzie.

She's at a good stage of just like moving, talking.

What's that?

A lot of that's.

What's that?

What's that?

And then I explain it.

What's that?

Trying to explain things.

is very fascinating as well.

How many kids do you actually have?

Four.

How old?

Oh, boy.

14, 12, 9, and 8 now.

Okay.

It's crazy how old they are.

14 to 8 is the.

Okay.

You feel...

So you're learning new things with the 14-year-old.

Eight, you already know everything that's coming.

No, he's a wild card, the youngest.

But yeah, you,

I mean, yeah, you deal with 5,000 questions a day.

It's good.

It keeps your brain active.

It keeps you half, like, you got to be creative.

Like, I have to think of like, okay, how am I going to explain this to them?

Shout out to Jerry Seinfeld.

Watch that B movie 4,000 times this weekend.

Learned a lot about honey.

They love honey over there.

Oh, bee really?

Jeez, Louise, they love honey.

Have you seen the B movie?

I don't know.

I've never seen it, actually.

Great.

It's great.

Mackenzie loves flowers.

So when she what's that's the flowers, I got all the information from

the bee movie.

That's a very informative movie, that uh bee movie.

That's that's Jerry to a T.

The Paulin Jocks are a real fucking badass group of bees.

They are a badass group.

They put those helmets on.

I'm watching all these types of movies.

Obviously, no adults are watching them.

Actually, I heard there's adults doing kids things all by themselves and it's weird for sure but i

yeah like going to disney world as an adult singer i guess that's happening people just love the rides i guess yeah space man keep it coming back

avatar ride is you know

unbelievable but i'm experiencing all these movies for the first time with her like lion king and all these like legendary movies i did not watch as a kid These are good movies.

Oh, yeah.

They're great.

I mean, it makes sense why they still detest the time.

Can't wait for you to really get into the Pixars.

Which ones are those?

Toy Story.

Soul.

I saw Toy Story.

Everybody saw Toy Story.

That was back whenever we went to movie theaters.

Yeah.

No, the newer ones, I mean, like Coco.

Tommy's.

Have you seen Coco?

I've not seen Coco.

I've seen

Soul.

Coco's good.

Coco's good.

Yeah, Coco's good.

Have you seen Zootopia?

No, I've not seen Zootopia.

Yeah,

there's a few bangers.

Animations seemingly always bangers.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Wild Robot, have you seen that one?

Didn't love the Wild Robot.

Me neither.

Wild Robot actually was, in in recent memory the biggest flop in my mind because animation wise animation wise because everyone said it was this great great great great movie and it's a good movie but it's it doesn't hold a candle to some of the pixar movies yeah i'm watching these other movies and then wild robot comes up and i'm not the only one mckenzie loses interest too yeah she'll get scared and startled in some scenes yeah some scenes we're watching i'm like oh so you know what

i get like so jacked up i'm like you understand what the fuck's going on here oh onward i guess that's not, that's more of a guide animation movie because it's about two brothers and like their relationship with their father and stuff.

But Onward's a great one.

That's Chris Pratt and Tom Holland, Spider-Man.

Speaking of Chris Pratt, they got.

I will check out Onward.

They're doing Terminal Lists up soon, huh?

Yep.

The prequel series, I think, comes out soon.

And then I think they're shooting season two of when he's Jim Bo Reese for maybe next year.

There's a, my wife was watching this competition thing on Peacock.

destination X maybe have you seen this

They're living in a bus in Europe

Big bus extended bus with a bunch of bunks.

I think they're also in trains everything's Blocked in like they can't see out and then they're dropped off in a place and then they have to figure out where the fuck they are and it's like uh it's a

cool.

Yeah, it's great.

Who's the actor that hosts that?

The actor that hosts it really loves the show.

Like when he when he's hosting and talking, he is like Jeffrey Dean is his his name.

Oh, what's his name from?

Oh, yeah,

Walking Dead.

Walking Dead, thank you.

He's doing like voiceovers to movies in this thing as opposed to just hosting.

Yeah, he is very good at hosting.

He's got me tied in.

Well, now

he's doing that whole thing.

I'm like, all right, I'm bought into this.

Good idea.

They're living on this bus, though, driving through Europe.

I don't know how it gets around those roads.

Can we get Mitt on this?

Roads are small.

So we've been talking about this.

This is a big conversation this weekend.

Mitt is built for one of these shows that is currently happening.

Love Island.

It's kind of a revolution of.

This used to be the thing.

Road rules, challenges, real world.

Amazing race.

It used to be Amazing Race.

It's coming back in a big way with all these streaming platforms.

Everybody has one, at least one, that has become good.

And Foxy watches Love Island religiously.

Yeah, it's tough.

I don't love the show, but my wife loves it.

And they shoot at all PTZs, and allegedly they turn it around like week of.

So then you're interactive with it.

So you can vote people off.

I don't like this couple.

Boom, we're splitting you up.

I don't like this person.

Boom, you're gone.

I haven't witnessed that.

People fire.

Yeah, which is pretty cool.

Finally.

And my takeaway is just the vibe and the aura and how the people act in it.

Mitt would be perfect for the show.

But no, I need Jeffrey Dean Morgan to be like, where are you, Mitt?

And he'd go, oh, Hobu Dobby?

This is the mountains.

No, it's a desert.

They're pretty good.

You got to put like a pin on a map where you think you are.

Like, read the, they're in the Alps, the episode that I saw.

No spoilers.

But I think you know why you're watching.

I wasn't paying attention enough.

I thought the show was going to be shit.

Sure.

Did you notice they have to wear seatbelts while they're in the bus?

I didn't.

No.

Next time you watch, when they're sitting in like in the bus area, obviously the bus, they're wearing seatbelts across their laps.

So I've seen them laying down a lot.

A lot of them are laying down in their bunks.

The upper part's the bus are the lounge.

They're going to be standing below, and then the map room is connected.

They're, because, you know, there's a couple that are thinking about

jumping.

Think about having one together.

Yeah, they are thinking about, they are thinking about having one.

Yeah.

Hey, I mean, that's what they, I'm sure they cast it for that to happen.

For people to have some?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Think about having some.

Yeah, for a couple of times.

For people to have one with many different partners.

Imagine in that bus turning some European turn like this, and you're just inside or having one.

Could happen.

You know, the producers are grabbing people and say, like, you two need to think about having one.

For sure.

Yep.

You know why you're here?

Because you two need to have one.

Or at least think about having one.

You need to to go up to the top lounge.

Let's get a couple.

Have one.

Yep, have one.

Think about having one.

Go down to the bunks.

Have a couple.

Maybe have one.

And then head into that map room.

And why don't you?

Maybe have one in there as well.

We should be thinking about it.

We should be thinking about having one in there in the map room.

All right, so we're going to get mid on one of these shows.

What are these style of shows called?

Reality shows?

That's what I call them.

Yeah.

Reality competition.

There it is.

There it is.

Would he be good on Traders?

Yes.

Anything.

He'd be good on anything.

I don't think he would last long on Traders.

You know?

Traders is great.

Traders are a great one.

Survivor.

You're trying to vote who is.

I don't think he's lasted long on much, to be fair.

Yeah.

Love Island, I think, is.

I've never seen it, but it sounds like Foxy.

Yeah, marquee for Love Island.

I can just totally see it now.

Just the way he would go about his business, maybe with one girl or maybe even another girl.

And then the fans would fall in love with him.

And we got to keep this guy around.

He might win, Big Brother.

I love Clarissa, but then.

I saw Alyssa come in.

That's literally the show right there.

What was the other one?

Fuck Boy Island?

Or is that too?

Is that still happening?

On the note.

I have not watched that one.

Oh, it's still happening.

That's a show.

I thought it was.

I just have been on Mitt.

What's his reaction to all this?

So you know, yeah, put me on Love Island.

I love love.

Everybody knows I love love.

Fuck yeah.

I fucking love love, dude.

Thumbfuck.

He's in.

Yeah.

Boom.

Yeah, dude, I've been working out too.

I'm ready.

Are they on a beach?

I'll fucking take my shirt off.

Let's go.

Mitt's been getting after it.

Mitt has legit for shoot been getting after it.

He's in very in shape.

He is.

He is.

Nice.

Just because?

Yeah.

I think he spends a couple hours in there a day, legitimately.

Some days are trying to protect himself.

He's doing two days on Sundays?

No, some days, like more than once a week, he does it.

Yeah, I mean, he's in there getting after it.

He's getting ready for Love Island.

Yeah,

he's thinking about having it.

He's got to be jacked to be on that show.

He should have one.

Well, when they were talking to him about coming on, they said, hey, Mitt, you need to.

You need to have one.

You're the type of guy who should always be thinking about having one, and you also need to have a a couple as well.

Squid Games, that's not a bad reality show.

That's coming out soon.

Yeah, the second half, I think next week, actually.

Squid Games Reality?

No, the

finale of Did I finish the last action?

I never watched it.

I don't think you guys did because we never got into it.

We never actually had one with that show.

There was a lot of stuff bought.

A lot of people said it was very underwhelming compared to the first season.

They tried to take it in a different way.

The second season is good.

The problem is,

they made made it seven episodes and turned it into two, like part one and part two of season two, basically.

That's right.

So like now when this next part comes out, then I would recommend watching it.

But I would definitely not recommend watching it now because it ends on a cliffhanger.

It's going to fucking piss you off because how do you have a cliffhanger seven episodes in when you should just go to 10 and then finish the whole thing?

But Squid Games is like continuing to.

They're not just done with the show after this.

They're doing like an America Squid Games.

They're doing a a Squid Games 1.

Squid Games reality competitions?

No, no, actually.

Because they've already done that.

Remember to watch that Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Yeah, actually part of the show instead.

Like in the Squid Games show universe.

They're like going back in town to the first ever Squid Games.

They're going to America for Squid Games.

But they are, I believe, making another reality show season of the Squid Games.

And what did I do?

I put dub on that, right?

I had them speaking English to me.

Yes.

I think so.

Yes.

With the captions.

I didn't mind it.

I got into the first one.

Never finished Avatar 2.

Don't need to.

Isn't three coming out?

Those whales.

Yeah.

Fire and ice or something.

Somewhere between like five to ten years from now.

All right, so we got both got the pacers tonight.

We have an ask in for JJ Spawn for tomorrow.

Nice.

Oh, yeah.

We'll see if that comes through.

Oh, yeah.

Not like the best relationship with the PGA, but we'll see.

New leadership.

See what happens.

Oh, yeah, from where?

I believe the NFL.

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

Congrats to Mr.

Rolop.

Congrats.

He was supposed to be the next.

He's.

Everybody you talk to says, good executive, this guy.

Good executive, this guy.

Good executive, this guy.

I got a chance to chat with him.

I came away.

Very impressed.

Good one of these.

Got ideas.

I think you're probably not at that height at the NFL with how much money they're making without being incredibly impressive.

So now he's the commissioner.

Yeah.

PGA?

Yep.

Congrats to him.

That's a big deal.

Yeah.

Especially with where the PGA is right now, what they're trying to get accomplished, everything that has to take place.

I I mean, that's a lot of stuff.

Good luck.

You're the right man for the job, Brian.

Would it be cool to get JJ in all?

But that's not even a PGA event, right?

That was a...

No, that's a USA.

USGA.

USGA event or whatever.

So hopefully they're able to come through.

If not, watching JJ this weekend was electrifying.

Watching them all get so pissed off.

It's crazy.

I learned a lot about Oakmont, man.

I'm from, obviously, Plum.

Plum is a majority of the golf course.

I think they showed it on the map there.

But like the thought of joining oakmont country club was never a reality like that was like an untouchable place basically we were at the public course next door behind those trees over there that's where

that's where the good people call it goes down you guys go ahead and stay over here whatever but then i started watching it and learned about it and like i i appreciated the fact that The Pittsburgh Hills were beating shit out of these golfers.

Like I started like feeling like a sense of pride.

And I assume that's how the members feel.

I think that's probably how the members feel out there.

Yeah, they play it all the time because it's generally known as the hardest course in America.

So, yeah, they love that shit because they are the members there and they get to play there all the time.

It was awesome.

Everyone was so, what did Shane Lowry say?

I fucking hate this.

Fuck this place.

Fuck this place.

Yeah, twice, right?

Yeah, it was awesome.

Wyndham fucking beat the lockers up.

Yeah, beat the shit out of those lockers.

Rory threw three clubs, one back to himself.

Yeah, that was awesome.

I mean, it was just.

Oakmont won.

And then Pittsburgh won, obviously, with the rain and everything.

That's when you need Joe Nardo.

Rest in peace.

Joe Denardo could have wrangled those skywaters a little bit

and said, hey, we got the U.S.

open.

But when you create the Doppler, obviously you're going to get special privileges.

Rest in peace, Joe Denardo.

We certainly missed you.

But when they pulled that Doppler up on the screen and they were reading the red dots, I was like, this is when.

This is when we most miss.

Joe Donardo.

Love your joke.

Rest in peace, Joe.

Rest in peace, Joe.

That's your joke.

Because Joe would have said, hey, it's going to rain.

Get the squeegees quick.

And these squeegees maybe would have been out like 30 seconds earlier.

You never know.

Especially with the way Burns was sitting in that water a little bit.

Cut tarps, maybe?

And then there was one part of the golf course that it was raining, and another part that it was sunny.

It's like, welcome to Pittsburgh, baby.

But Donardo would have been able to say, rest in peace, Joe.

Joe would have been able to say, if you're on home, it was 5, 8, 9, and 13.

Probably got a little bit of sunshine.

Everywhere else need an umbrella.

That's Joe Denardo football.

That's right.

We missed you this weekend, Joe.

Yeah, we did.

Yeah.

Every weekend.

Love you, Joe.

Yes, yes, every weekend.

But you know what?

yeah.

Especially on Father's Day.

He was like a father to all of us.

And he fathered the Doppler.

Yeah.

And weather.

Why isn't it called the Donardo, though?

Because he's selfless.

Humble.

It's true.

You're right.

And you're right.

He's a Yinzer.

They wanted to.

They wanted to name it the Donardo, and he said he actually turned him away.

Yeah.

His son named it.

Bill Doppler.

No, Doppler Donardo is his boy.

That's pretty good.

Yep.

Named after his boy.

There's got to be some people out there.

Their first name is Doppler and their parents were just real big fans.

Well, when Joe Nardo was working that thing, it was hard not to be.

Yeah.

Legit.

Rest in peace, Joseph.

What sex symbol is?

The weatherman.

The weather.

The weather.

Not, no.

That's why somebody.

He was the depiction.

of a meteorologist slash weatherman.

And sex.

I mean, if you liked weather, yeah, for sure.

De Noro would be able to deliver for you.

However you want it.

Exactly.

But it was beautiful that Oak Bunch showed up.

So I looked into it.

560 members, I think you showed up.

560 members.

There's an initiation fee, a monthly fee, and then a food stipend each year you got to pay.

And it's like,

is it like the Augusta of North?

Yeah, I mean, it's one of the most bunch famous courses in the world up there, Beth Page.

I know next to nothing about it just because it was like seemingly so untouchable.

Tone worked there, got fired.

Yep.

So that's kind of how I think we assume the relationship would always be.

People from where we're from will go there and get kicked out of there, and then everything else will be good.

But I had a sense of pride in that place.

Me too.

And I only got in there because my uncle's caddy there for like 30 years.

So I ruined that whole thing.

But no, it was awesome to watch.

We'll talk about the buckets and the head start.

Yep.

We talk about that head start that some people had.

Tone had one.

That doesn't happen.

I said, this is too, this caddy, this is, you know, this is too easy i went did landscaping instead um

no it was awesome good play cody

the uh the michael keaton uh thing that they ran was awesome and then like the overheads they showed like the turnpike running through there um which for those that don't know what

keep going

is the highway that runs basically through pennsylvania all the way over to philly 76.

um

it was awesome to see

you know what else was amazing they put a spotlight on fucking pudge Listen.

It talks about Pudgy Wudgie.

Nobody, not Pudgy Wudgie, who is the cat that passed away.

That was a plum mascot.

Great cat.

He's a great cat.

It lived right across the street from Oakmont Country Club.

Pudgy Wudgie's owner actually just rented out parking spots on his land and made enough money for the entire year to take Pudgy Wudgie, his cat, to every sporting event the Plum Mustangs had.

And Pudgy Wudgie.

I thought you were talking about Pudgy Wudgie.

I'm talking about Pudge, dude.

Did you see this?

Who's snorting?

Pudgy Wudgie is a famous cat from where we're from.

Pudgy Wudgie was.

Like a real cat?

Like a real cat?

Yes.

And Pudgy Wudgie's owner was certainly,

he had a lot of pizzazz.

Okay.

At a lot of pizzazz.

Pudgy Wudgie was a big-time fan of Plum Mustangs athletics.

He was always there.

I believe rest in peace to Pudgy Wudgie and

Pizaz having owner.

Yeah, I think so.

Was the cat a fan or was the owner of the cat a fan?

I think if you asked

Pudgy Wudgie about me, I think they were too meowed.

I think it was a fan.

A lot of my, you know, because I was playing a lot of sports, so I saw a lot of Pudgy Wudgie, but Pudgy Wudgie was before me and Pudgy Wudgie was after me.

Sure.

Pudgy Wudgie will be forever.

Just like fucking Pudge,

who had the touchdown.

the game-winning touchdown in the first ever professional football game, which was in downtown Pittsburgh.

Love that NBC spotlighted that.

I certainly knew this was real.

Yeah.

I certainly knew this.

Four or nothing?

Yeah, it was an absolute classic.

Four or nothing.

On November 12th, 1892, at Recreation Park, a few blocks northwest of here, which is right outside of Ackershare Stadium, formerly known as Heinz Field, Don Earth the Shore, the Allegheny Athletic Association, Allegheny, the county in which Pittsburgh resides, defeated the Pittsburgh Athletic Club, PAC, still around, 4-0.

The winning touchdown was scored by William Pudge Heffelfinger.

And listen, when Pudge got the rock, it was fucking problematic for everybody.

He received 500 bucks for playing.

He was the first football player known to have been paid outright, and pro football traces its origin from this game right here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Dog.

The more you know.

The more you know.

Here's Pudgy Wudgie, the cat that was very supportive of Plum Mustangs.

These are all the newspaper articles.

Oh, man.

Yeah, there's the owner with Pizazz.

And there's Pudgy Wudgie down there at the Heinz History Center.

What the hell is this?

This is Pudgy Wudgie, who who was a cat?

Pudgy Wudgie was all that.

Pudgy Wudgie loved plum.

You're asking questions.

You sound like a buck.

Kennywood, dude.

Kennywood.

That's Pudgy Wudgie going around.

The homepage says the online home of Allegheny Valley's most famous cat from 1986-2001, race.

Rest in peace, 2001.

Okay.

And there's the owner right there.

That's Frank.

So he just showed up to high school games with a cat?

He held the sticks.

He held the chains.

What the cat?

Pudge Wudgie.

What do you mean he held your sticks?

No, the first time.

First time.

And he always just had the cat in his arms.

Yeah.

Pudgy Wudgie went everywhere.

All right.

I think he was the first person ever to dress up a cat.

And Matt was not lying.

His house was a very, very small house that was right across the street from Oakmont, but he had a huge field and just charged parking every time the open came and made a ton of money.

Was able to dress up his cat for years.

Every time the U.S.

Open would come back, he'd be like, well, time to make money again.

4,000 bucks a spot.

It's right across the street.

There's a bridge you walk over right to his property.

He's like, this guy hit a fucking home run.

And he liked to give back, especially to Pudgy Wudgie.

Universe ball.

What a weird place we came, bro.

Plum?

Yeah.

You're just now starting to think about it.

Start really taking it all.

Yeah, it's pretty insane.

It's the home of the Oakmont Country Club.

You didn't know that?

Yeah.

I did not know that it was all plum Until I saw that map.

I'm like,

yeah, I.

Plum has a fucking U.S.

Open?

I didn't know.

I know that because Coach, my father, got a bunch of tickets because he runs the Plum Water Authority.

Anthony DiGiolio.

And

he gets free tickets every open because he's got to deal with getting the water in the ways out there.

Of course, he does.

Thank you, Coach, for that.

Legend.

Papa DiGiolio working at the water authority.

Yeah.

Is this for the Pacers or?

Pudgy Wudgie's dead, so this won't keep it alive.

Okay.

Well, maybe it could be for like sad owner, not 24 years.

What's so funny?

So he was coming back.

I thought for sure this was going to bring Pudgy Wudgie back to life after 24 years dead.

You don't know Pudgy Wudgie.

Did they stuff him?

Did they stuff him and put him in your high school somewhere?

That guy did more than stuff him.

Gee, Slowbwee.

It probably gave him a

tombstone.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

It was probably a memorial.

Yeah, he wasn't just going to stuff herself.

Yeah, I think it it sounded a little different.

All right.

This is for the Pacers tonight.

Here we go.

Here we go.

AJ, how much?

What's the final score in this game of tonight?

Oh, I said 118, 114 last time.

I'm going a little bit lower.

We're going 111, 107, Pacers.

We'll see.

Oh, no.

Maybe you.

Connor, what's the final score tonight?

I'm going to go 113, 107.

To who wins?

The Thunder.

Oh, no, we'll see.

Almost, almost essentially missed made that.

Almost.

Yeah, that was a lot closer than I thought it was going to be.

Me too.

Ty, final score.

109, 104 pacers.

We'll see.

Oh.

Tom?

117 to 88.

Who's that?

OKC.

Geese.

88.

Four Jeez.

Uh-oh.

Well,

didn't even touch the rim.

What the hell, Tony?

Listen, I got an adopted Heartland heart, okay?

I hope you're happy.

A who's your heart?

They're gonna lose this game, and then they're gonna win six and seven.

Them boys don't lose back-to-backs, Tony.

Neither do the Pacers.

That's what I mean.

No, no.

Them boys being the Pacers.

10 straight.

They've won a lot or lost.

Yeah, but then he said to win six 6-7, as if the Oklahoma City Thunder would lose two straight.

They don't fucking lose two straight either.

No.

Something's got to give.

Shit!

Seems like

it's giving tonight.

I just hope these boys are focused.

Universe already spoke to us.

Good season, then.

Yeah.

This isn't a series under tonight.

Yeah.

You lose 117 to 88, though, maybe.

Yeah, that's about all she wrote.

Game seven to OKC, okay.

I don't like what the universe did there.

No.

Kind of a bum.

Carlisle, how coaches Dago know?

It's like, all of a sudden, we got a whole new season.

That's not his name.

Coach Daggs?

Well, what happened at the World Series, College World Series?

So we're still just first weekend.

Arizona has been eliminated.

So they're the only team that got eliminated this weekend.

Coastal Carolina is 2-0, so they put themselves in a good position.

They haven't lost 25 games.

They have won 25 consecutive games, yeah.

And they're very good.

Very good.

Great chain on this guy.

Yep, absolutely.

And then it started at 2 o'clock, but the top remaining seed in the tournament, Arkansas, plays the

kind of Cinderella's Murray State.

That is an elimination game as well.

And then if you want like kind of the marquee matchup, UCLA LSU is tonight at 7.

Arkansas is up one zip over Murray State.

If they were to win, Murray State would be eliminated.

Yep.

And then UCLA LSU double elimination round.

We shall see when they get started.

LSU, Arkansas started the tournament as your favorite.

LSU is now your favorite at plus 125.

Coastal Carolina, who started this thing at plus 700 is now plus 185.

They have moved up to.

College World Series is a good time.

Turn it on.

Tink.

Yep.

You know,

here poor little tink tink.

Exactly.

And then the Rocco's stuff happening.

I guess they had to shut down.

yeah they did early

people getting a little too rowdy yep yep that's gonna happen when you're you know encouraging people to buy 60 000 plus jello shots you know some people are gonna take it a little bit too far especially if you're putting stuff inside jello shots correct there's a chance that if you're spurring competition at a competitive event

and then there's some booze getting added into every once in a while there's probably gonna be some words yeah and to that we'd like to say it's four swords done exactly let's enjoy college world series in omaha this rocco's gimmick is brilliant yes you know we talked about Pudgy Wudgie and Frank selling those parking spots outside of Oakmont Country Club.

Rest in peace to both of them.

Frank.

Yeah.

That was a great move.

Yeah, Frank's dead.

Frank Ferco, rest in peace.

Wait, he died right after Pudgy Wudgie couldn't handle it.

He just died as well.

Yes.

Yeah, Frankie Frank.

Broken Heart.

Pudgy Wudgie's death was the final stroke.

His wife probably still alive, though.

No, no.

I don't know if he's married, Frank.

I've never seen

him.

No, he might have been.

I'm not.

What con?

He's married to Pudgy.

Pudgy Wudgie currently has a mural.

um

obviously you can see it near the turnpike there yeah i'm sure that's still there um

doesn't look superimposed at all that looks very real and uh frank farco had the mural painted to remember his beloved cat who is a master of tricks

kk's dave crawley's reporting from plumboro pennsylvania okay tricks that would make your head turn

pudgy wudgie was a cat pudgy wudgie was all that he loved chip ham do tricks for chipped ham.

Do more than tricks.

Jeez.

Hey.

What about peanut butter?

Peanut butter, yeah.

That's cat, not a dog.

I don't know what you guys are implying, but nonetheless,

the jell-o thing, Rocco's Jell-O shots, great gimmick.

Just great gimmick.

Unbelievable.

I respect it, and we can't wait to try one someday.

Yeah.

West Virginia was close.

They were.

Is Iowa ever getting in this?

They've actually won a College World Series before.

I mean, the Big Ten just anymore isn't really.

They had a pretty good shot this year, but no, they did not make it.

West Virginia has like a real chance for this thing.

Yeah, for sure.

How about Duquesne?

You guys got any shots getting in the World Series?

Duke's baseball, not the best sport that we have.

How about Michigan State?

You guys good at baseball?

No, I don't think they've ever been great.

Fairfield, actually nasty.

Fairfield Stags?

Yeah,

D1?

Yeah, D1.

They were top 25 at one point this year.

I think they almost won their conference, but they didn't make it to Breach.

I'm just trying to figure out how we get there.

Ohio State good, AJ?

Oh, yeah, they're good.

He doesn't know?

Nope.

I don't know.

You have no idea.

Yeah, probably don't, but they're good.

Good players over there.

Probably don't.

I don't know how they're doing this year.

Nick Swisher played there when I was there.

Yeah, Stagger.

He played in Ice Vision.

Hell of a player.

Nick Swisher field now.

All right.

Stags in West Virginia have a shot to get us to Omaha.

Got a lot of people out there in Omaha.

Got drills out there in Nebraska.

McGee's always out there.

McGee's always out there.

During the NBA Finals is tough.

Yeah.

It's been a little tough.

Yeah, well, hopefully they, you know, get it done this year.

Ryan McGee tweeting from the World Series: last time Coastal Carolina lost the game was April 22nd.

That was seven weeks, five days, your entire papers show you go.

What the fuck does papa say mean?

I asked.

Looked it up.

Changed into the Pope.

Yep.

It's great usage of the word.

Oh, yeah.

Bifurcate?

Mm-hmm.

Bifurcate.

Bifurcate, yeah.

B-I-F-U-R-C-A-T-E to split into two.

Correct.

Sever.

That's our new nickname in the office for Billy Tobes.

All right.

Billy, bifurcate.

No.

I like it.

He's taking photos now.

Yeah, taking photos of bodies.

No, he's jacked up right now, breaking chains.

He cracked up.

Jacked up.

He's working out like three times a day.

But yeah, because a couple got away.

Yeah.

He's got to bifurcate a couple more people.

Bill, I don't think that's fair.

I don't think that's fair at all, Bill.

That's never happened.

It was good.

That is not fair.

All right, let's get out of here.

AJ, thank you for today.

Boys in the back, great work.

What a great overreaction Monday.

We'll be back tomorrow.

I'm off this evening on Monday Night Raw.

Green Bay Packers.

No, sorry, Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the Green Bay Packers.

NBA Finals game.

I've also been on the road since like Dublin.

I'm doing a sleep.

This is the last week of sports.

I'm doing a sleep.

This is the last week of sports.

That's crazy to think about.

Still got a lot of soccer tournaments.

Oh, we're in the middle of one.

The Concafapod boys went down to a game in Miami.

Oh, my God.

Most electrifying tournament in history.

We're going to have a World Cup of club teams for $100 million.

Boys are going to want to play.

It's a lot of money.

And it's all clubs from all different leagues.

MLS players are going to take on Premier League players.

And then La Liga players are going to take on Bundesliga players.

And the whole world is going to battle for $100 million.

And it's happening in the United States of America.

There was a game in Cincinnati.

Team won 10-0.

Team won 10-0.

They were playing against a TST team that was literally putting players together.

They had full-time jobs.

Somehow they get in this $100 million TST tournament.

Down in Miami, Lou Messi was playing.

Okay, Lou.

We knew it was going to be electrifying because Lou was taking the pitch.

We knew it was going to be awesome because $100 million was on the line.

Had to send the Concafa boys down there.

Jeff Cameron, U.S.

men's national team legend, Premier League player.

Breck Shea, U.S.

men's team player.

Legend.

MLS, legend.

High school, legend.

Soccer, legend.

Mbubba Campino.

Guys made all the reservations, went down there.

How was it?

Was it awesome to watch the World Cup Super Duper Club Championship for $100 million in Miami?

It was an incredible atmosphere down there in Miami.

The performance before the game, the show, just the atmosphere.

61,000 people were there.

There was 80,000 people at the Rose Bowl for Athletico Madrid and PSG.

0-0 match.

What?

But the score doesn't tell the story.

The Inter-Miami goalie stood on his head.

If you watch the game, the Inter-Miami goalie saved the penalty.

They gave away about 10 breakaways.

Messi hit the crossbar late in the game.

It was a very good match.

Lou, we need you to score.

If you don't score, nobody else is scoring.

That's why they give you a billion bucks.

It's soccer, Lou.

What happened in the 10-0 game?

How come that isn't happening more often?

We like that.

Touchdown, field goal.

Stifling defense.

Yeah, Auckland City, their players had to take vacations from their real jobs to play Bayern Munich.

So, yeah, they lost 10-0.

Could have have been worse.

I believe Bill was bifurcating his time this weekend between Indianapolis and Cincinnati to watch that particular game.

He was in the building.

What happened in the other games?

Were they electrifying?

The Seattle Sounders game was probably the best game of the weekend.

They lost 2-1 to one of the Brazilian teams.

Oh, we lose.

But we got, in about 15 minutes here, Chelsea against LAFC.

Whoa, where at?

In L.A.?

I believe it is.

It's Olivier Giroux.

Used to play for Chelsea, actually.

He's on LAFC, so we'll see what happens.

How's Chelsea these days?

Is Chelsea still Chelsea or is Chelsea down with the Burnley League?

They're still in the Premier League.

They spend about a billion dollars every offseason and come like sixth or eighth in the league.

It's a good plan.

Okay, what's that, Tone?

Chelsea in LAFC is down in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Jordan.

Oh, Atlanta.

Oh, they got grass over the pitch, I wonder down there.

Oh, absolutely.

It shouldn't piss me off as much as it does.

What?

They should not be allowed to play at the Rose Bowl.

We kind of had this conversation before the show.

This one the Champions League.

okay?

That fucking grinds my gears.

PSG, I get it.

And yes, they won the Champions League against a bunch of drunks from Italy, I believe, is what the terminology was with Inter.

Fuck off, man.

Okay.

The Rose Bowl is the granddaddy of them all.

That is legitimately made for only football.

And I get the whole grass thing.

They had 80,000 there.

I don't give a fuck if 200,000 people are going there.

They should not be able to play anything but the Rose Bowl at the Rose Bowl.

I think that's what I'm saying.

Well, you should.

I mean,

you sell the place there all season.

But that was just because they're building the stadium, correct?

No.

No.

Aren't they?

Okay.

They've always.

Okay, fine, but they're playing football.

Hold on, hold on.

No, I did see a lot of reaction of like, they're putting soccer in the Rose Bowl.

And then you look at the scenes, it was like, God damn, they filled that place up.

And obviously it looked beautiful.

And you think about the grass that's on the Rose Bowl, it's like,

don't mess up.

Really, that is beautiful grass over there.

I assume the soccer players got on there, like, Jesus, this is the nice grass we are.

They better have said that.

I think they did.

I think they did a lot of thank yous.

One guy was a little upset.

He said it was too hot.

See, bitching and moaning already.

About the Rose Bowl?

Exactly.

Wasn't it interesting?

About the Rose Bowl?

The guy in Athletico Madrid said they shouldn't have been playing in the middle of the day.

Well, they should arrest him on the spot.

Yeah, I'm sick and tired of hearing your mouth, guy.

Hock.

It's ridiculous.

He just don't know no better.

Yeah, no, he don't.

And he should say that.

Fucking you hire me.

Let's get out of here.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice in my change.

Shout soccer.

Thank you for the update, Gumpy.

Also, the Concaf a pod is a good one.

It's Gumpy, Jeff, and Breck.

If you want to know anything about soccer, it's a good place to talk to you.

And also, they were a part of

some of the Christian Pulisic stuff.

A little bit of journalism happening from the boys.

You know, Christian Pulisic might have been unfairly judged judged by us.

Certainly.

But someone's got to do it.

Yeah, don't kill him.

Someone's got to judge him.

Don't take, take, guess what?

Take the Captain America nickname away then.

Well, he wanted to, but he couldn't.

There was a couple things that just didn't line up.

He wanted to, though.

Okay, well, then take Ponch out back and shoot him in the head.

I don't know.

They're thinking about that.

No, I can't have that.

Ponch out.

Wow.

Bago Luna.

Luna.

It shouldn't be this hard to root for a fucking team that dons the stars and stripes, but it is, okay?

And that's a problem.

They're trying to figure it out right now.

That's the start and end of this argument.

Listen, whenever you fire a coach in a regime a year and a half before the World Cup starts, there's going to be a lot of quick things that we have to go through.

He's trying to find his guys.

He actually, I think, had a quote that was like, there's a lot of talent that is in here, but they have to learn how to fight before they become a full team.

Ponch is trying to find his culture here.

All right.

Am I not accurate in saying that?

Yeah, that Malik Tillman kid who scored both, he scored two goals.

He looked very good last time.

I actually like what he's doing.

He's cleaning.

Let's get my lads in here.

There's going to be some shit.

There's going to be some trying times.

I saw, I forget who it was, maybe Seton O'Connor.

We've had trying times, man.

I know, but that's exactly.

He's trying to get us out of the trying times, man.

By going back into the trying times?

No, he has to eliminate the trying times.

He has to see who is the cause of the trying times and get new people that'll get us out of the trying times.

That's what he's trying to do.

We have guys that are capable of getting us out of the trying times.

Were they a part of the trying times?

I don't know.

I think they were a part of the trying times.

We've been done with the trying times is polythic.

No, we've been in the trying times.

Remember, that's why we're currently in the middle of the situation we're in right now.

Those trying times were supposed to be good times.

I thought that was all because the gaffer was shining.

Yeah, but they weren't good times.

They were trying times.

How do you know you're

good times?

The good times are all the times.

If you really look at it, there's always a silver lining.

But for the U.S.

men's national team, there hasn't been a lot of good times for some time.

No.

Burhalter tried to leave and then circled back and came back to be the coach.

There's a lot of shit.

I thought Burhalter left and then they were like, no one wants this fucking job.

We have to give it back to him.

You know how a new GM comes into a building and says like, this is all shite.

Yes.

I got to figure this out.

Imagine having to do that in like a six-month period.

So Ponch is doing that.

That's what Ponch is doing right now.

Okay, great.

It might not work.

So we're fucked is what I think.

Isn't the team kind of set already?

No, no.

Very far.

Not at all.

That's what he's

casting wide net right now.

He's like, I need to find dogs more than I need to find anything else.

Packers roster set.

Go try to get a USA passport for some of these guys overseas.

We did that already.

We did that with a bunch of German kids that were born on military bases.

That didn't work out for us either.

Then we got a bunch of kids that grew up in the camps and academies in Europe at the good clubs.

That didn't work either.

So Paunch, I think, is trying to find dogs.

I think that is what he's trying to find.

Well, I heard when Ponch leaves the team, he's coaching the year after they do really good.

So is that a compliment to the coach or an indictment on a coach?

I don't know.

Who built the call?

I just know they're not winning with Paunch.

They're winning with the coach.

Six first, first, the Champions League final, then they went down the shooter for quite a while.

You ever heard of that?

Is this the Champions League where if your team's good, you can buy players, or is this the national league where fucking you only get the guys inside your borders?

Well, that's what I just said, though, about the military.

We were exercising some clauses for sure to get guys on our team.

Didn't work.

But they were dogs.

Were they?

Jermaine Johnson was.

Was that the last time we went past the fucking first round of the knockout stage?

We've been round assisting.

I just think Paunch is trying to find his team.

We just need to let him find his team.

Because I like the way he's talking.

We need more fight.

He's saying we need more dogs.

And also, we don't need the American team flopping.

Yeah.

The thing that America's people hate the most about soccer is the flopping.

That is literally, it crept into basketball and heard it.

Flopper.

Flopper.

Soccer is where the whole thing.

I think the reason why a lot of football people hate soccer is because, well, they look like they got killed.

aj's reaction to a highlight that got sent into the group was oh i hope number nine was able to stand up after losing his leg the way he did when he got a little bit of a a little bit so like the usa team can't be like can't have to be yeah no bitching and whining you have to match yeah the guy who got taken out suarez actually can barely stand at this point in his career either his knees are not great that's what we like yeah dogs poncha's looking for dogs

okay

but you don't think he's gonna find them nope it's a usa Nope.

I don't think there's a chance.

Unless we're pulling...

5-0 up over Trend, though.

Unless we're pulling Jeremiah Smith off the practice field, I don't think

guys to get us there.

I think if you do get these young guys playing well in this Gold Cup tournament and then you add the other players.

What is this, the under-20 team that they're playing here?

Do we know?

It's just a lot of MLS players and some young guns.

Yeah, because we have national teams, obviously, at every age.

Bom, bom, bom, bom, bomb.

There's national teams, then there's pools, and then this whole thing.

So I think he is.

But Jeff also said he never played in the Gold Cups when he was playing in england either i'm selling all my u.s soccer stuff don't i'm just telling you no hold

hold we just won five zip you should have sold a week ago if yeah no if we play trinidad and tobago every single game we're gonna be good man

i don't i don't think that's how it works yeah we got what who's saudi arabia next yeah who we got next

All eyes on Gumpy.

Saudi's there.

Gotta be Saudi.

Saudi, Bruce said.

Yeah, we got Saudi Arabia next.

Ronaldo.

That'll be a tough man.

Ronaldo is Portugal.

He just won a title of Super Duper International.

Doesn't he play in Saudi, though?

He plays in Saudi or for Saudi.

Yeah, he's an employee of the Saudi soccer league where he makes $750 million a year or whatever.

Correct.

But he represents Portugal.

They just hosted a trophy.

They beat Spain.

Nations League.

Super duper nations.

What's Saudi doing in the Gold Cup?

I can't figure that out either.

It's because they're hosting the World Cup years from now.

I don't get that one.

We understand yeah it's fucking sport i missed that one no you you knew minus 145 usa against saudi how did we find the guys that's the thing i'm a tst guy tst is great soccer this soccer sucks the u.s actually invited the saudis to as an outreach program for concafa oh great

what do you oh great

another team that we should beat and might lose to i like that you put the hockey helmet on top of ilario as if it's going into hibernation for an offseason because the Boston Celtics aren't there anymore.

Yeah, well, I put the hockey helmet on it because I don't want you thinking about it like some of the players on the Indiana Pacers seem to be.

Oh, you think the Indiana Pacers are distracted by Larry O?

Yeah, I think they need to just think about the next dribble, the next free throw perhaps.

We need to get out of here.

We've been here way too long.

Be a friend, telefront, something nice.

It might change your life.

We're back tomorrow.

You all are the greatest.

Hope you had a great weekend.

Have a great evening.

Go Pacers.

Me and AJ both on the Pacers money line.

The universe says

Oklahoma City with the universe universe shot.

We hope that that's wrong.

I was pure, though.

Pure.

Very much.

I was like the purest I've shot.

Yeah.

What's that all about?

We'll figure it out tomorrow.

Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life for another thing together.

Team on me, team on three.

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