PMS 2.0 1348 - Game 4 Tuesday LIVE from Gainbridge Fieldhouse with Shams Charania, Peter Schrager, Hans Perez, Darius Butler

Hello beautiful people and welcome to Indianapolis, Indiana.

Outside of Game Bridge Fieldhouse, this is Game 4 Tuesday, May 27, 2025.

This program starts now.

The Pacers

are obviously alive and well here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

What we have with this Pacers team is a collection of men that represent this city, this state, and this town so damn well.

And although they lost game three at home to to the dumb New York Knicks after having a 20-point lead, they really gave it up.

That has been the story of this particular Pacers team.

Now, the Pacers have never won on Indianapolis 500 Sunday in the history of the Pacers.

The Pacers have also lost game threes consecutively in multiple series in this particular run of the playoffs.

But tonight, in this building that we are right outside of, there's about to be an electricity, a vibe, a feeling that is going to be felt through the television as the entire state of Indiana rallies behind Tyrese Halliburton and the boys.

Jalen Brunson and this New York Knicks team are a bunch of dogs.

They are certainly worthy of being Eastern Conference finalists.

But tonight, what you're going to see is the same thing you saw in games one and games two.

This Pacers team is going to get back on track with a great group of Hoosiers behind them ready to lose their

mind.

Now, it's not just me up on this stage.

No, no, I'm lucky to be joined by a great group of men.

Ladies and gentlemen, one half of the hammer.

Cowboys AP Tone is here.

Tone, a lot of people lost money on Sunday betting on the Indiana Pacers, especially whenever they were up 20.

Thought it was a foregone conclusion that they were going to go up 3-0 and maybe a sweep this evening was in the works.

Instead, the Knicks get a win.

They steal one in game three.

What's the money looking like this evening for the Gomblers of this Eastern Conference finals?

Yeah, game three did not deter Vegas.

They made Pacers the favorites again for game four.

They are minus two and a half tonight against the New York Knicks.

I think if people are smart, they're going to go ride with the Pacers again tonight.

First three, or the first, yeah, three series that they played, they lost game three, so it was nothing out of the normal for the Pacers.

They are undefeated in games four and five, so maybe they are the same tonight.

Okay, I hope so.

And, you know, the Pacers have this trend of being able to run everybody off the court.

They run, they run, they run, they run.

The fact that the Knicks were able to get back in the fourth quarter the way they did, behind Carl Anthony Anthony Tynes, Kat goes for 20.

He goes absurd.

Had some passes that people were talking about on the internet.

The way he went about doing his thing was certainly remarkable.

20 points in the fourth quarter for Kat, 20 points in total for the Indiana Pacers in the fourth quarter.

Gonna have to change that.

The fourth quarter is where the Pacers have been able to eat because they wear other teams down.

How will the Knicks feel in this game four?

How will the Knicks feel have to feel after spending a few days in the beautiful city of Indianapolis, Indiana?

And how about some Knicks fans we see out here?

They're wearing their orange and blue.

Oh, yeah.

We got a couple Knicks fans that are going to join us on this stage.

Obviously, Coastal Elitists have made their way out here in the United States of America, and they're enjoying some great weather.

It is spectacular

out here today.

Let's go to the Toxic Table at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt.

Ty, I see you with a Pacers jersey on, pal.

Have you fully committed to being a Pacers fan?

Yeah, without a doubt.

I don't have an NBA team.

You know, Midwest guy, you could go with the Bulls.

I love Tyrese Hall Burton, other than the fact that, you know, he went to Iowa State, which I can live with that.

I can get over that.

Pacers also got James Johnson, you know, former stalwart on the 2011 Iowa Energy.

One of the best players in fourth grade, goddamn.

Gee League, you know, I mean, hell of a season.

But yeah,

you mentioned it.

Pace to play, like the way the Pacers play, if you are an NBA fan or just a basketball fan in this area of the country and you don't really have an allegiance to someone, Pacers are a pretty damn good team to kind of, you know, jump on the boat.

Now, granted, people might call me a bandwagon.

Okay, yeah, you wait until

this team's got their eyes on an NBA championship.

I'm fine with that.

So be it.

So be it.

Yes, sirs.

Go, sirs.

I love the Pacers.

I'm a Pacer guy for life now, and

that's how it should be.

Yeah, I don't know if you're going to be a Pacers guy for life now.

Wow.

We know how that works.

So delicious.

Yeah, but next 50, 60 years of your life, you have to have Pacers.

We like that.

Let's go to Boston Connor, a man who lives in downtown Indianapolis, wearing his Boston Celtics jacket, obviously.

Have to.

I don't think you have to.

You could have come out here and said, you know what, I'm a citizen.

I'm a member of this community.

I could have came out and supported the Indiana Pacers, who have been so good to us.

The Pacers obviously allow us this court.

The Morris Bicentennial Plaza, easy for you all to say.

It is a wonderful setup outside of Game Bridge.

They put a nice skating rink out here.

Obviously, there's people that play pickup out here.

It's a nice draw.

There's concessions out there.

Yeah, Tyrese Alley Burton's been incredible for our show.

You could have easily picked up the Pacers as your team, especially since you live two blocks from here.

Instead, you're holding strong with the Celtics.

What do you see of this Pacers team that maybe make you think they can do what the Celtics have been able to do in the past, and that's hoist a trophy at the end of the season?

Yeah, I don't know if anybody can do what the Celtics have done, you know, throughout the history of the NBA, but with the Pacers, there's a lot of things.

They run and gun, you know.

It was real cool when they were up 20.

Obi Toppin doing the alley oobs, Tyrese stealing the basketball.

I mean, personally, if both these teams could lose, it'd be the perfect situation for me, just because then everyone can kind of realize: wow, what the Boston Celtics done was unbelievable.

But my biggest thing, especially going into tonight, you know, Timmy Chalamay, he's cool.

He ain't no John Halliburton, okay?

Papa Halliburton's back, baby.

I think that is the biggest storyline tonight.

That's a lot of moxie in one building.

We'll see.

You know,

if I'm Rick Brunson, I got my eyes peeled.

I'm sitting on the bench, sure, but I don't bring to a team what Papa Halliburton does.

So I could see this being a runaway 40, 50, 60 point game for the Pacers today.

We would all enjoy that on a worknight Tuesday night if this thing was over earlier than expected.

Yeah, Papa Halliburton is back.

Only allowed to sit in a suite, though.

Only allowed to sit in a suite.

Not allowed to have his feet on the wood because they don't know if he's going to start dancing again.

They don't want him to do that, but it's great that he's back, a chance to experience this type of run, and especially with what his kid has been accomplishing.

We'll talk to Sean Sharanya here in a matter of moments.

He'll probably have more on the Papa Halliburton story and a lot of other stories around the NBA.

Let's go to nine-year NFL vet.

Indianapolis Colt Great.

Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Jay Butler is here.

Debut,

I call this city home.

Obviously, you're here like four days a week for a large portion of your life.

You have a house here, an apartment here.

You had a lot of great things happen here.

The Indiana people deserve this run that the Pacers are having.

And with the way the Colts have been,

they're good.

Yeah.

I mean, this weekend,

might be back.

Just real quick.

Danny Dimes I heard was at in the back.

He was enjoying his Indy 500 Sunday.

Don't look now.

Daniel Jones might have found his home out here in Indianapolis.

But with the Pacers having their run right now, it feels great for the city, especially one that we have such close ties to.

It feels great for the city.

We know Peyton Manning kind of made this a football city, but this is a basketball state.

You know, a state full of Hoosiers.

They love their ball, and they're on a hell of a run.

Now, South Florida kids, so I grew up a Miami Heat fan, still a Miami Heat fan.

So we had a lot of tough battles in the conference finals with the Pacers.

I respect the Pacers fan.

I respect the Pacers program.

Hate the Knicks, though.

Hate the Knicks, especially being the Florida with all these New Yorkers that come down.

So just to hear their mouth, I know we lost game three, and I'm saying we very loosely because I am here.

It would be so sweet for them to win the conference finals in New York.

So I can't wait for that to happen.

And it starts with a big win tonight.

It certainly does.

And, you know, the other series happening in the Western Conference was a little bit of an indicator of what could potentially take place for game three.

You know, the Minnesota Timberwolves at home smack OKC.

They get back.

Wait a minute.

Does that mean the Knicks are alive?

Yes, the Knicks get a big-time win in game three as well.

Well, if last night's an indicator of what is about to happen on this particular evening, it looks like the Pacers are going to get back on track.

Oklahoma City gets a close,

spectacular dub over, you know, the this Minnesota Timberwolves team is interesting.

They're very fascinating.

The way they go about playing, they were able to answer OKC, answer OKC, answer OKC.

But in the end, you make your free throws, you do battle.

Oklahoma City's up 3-1.

Is that an indicator on what happens tonight?

I think so.

Congrats, Oklahoma City, being what they've been all season, which is some closers, some winners, some absolute dogs.

Jalen, unbelievable.

Caruso had a couple sick reverse layups down the stretch.

Obviously, SGA is going to do his thing.

And I believe Oklahoma City feels comfortable in being able to lock this up 3-1, but they were in a dogfight last night, D-Bud.

Yeah, Yeah, they were in a dogfight.

They figured it out.

You talked about this Timberwolves team being interested.

It's

too much up and down, especially from their stars.

We know how important the stars are on the biggest stage for a guy like Julius Randle to have a good game and then to show up and have five, six points.

And the same thing with Ant.

Obviously, they're going to double.

They're going to send blitzes at him, but he's got to be more impactful on this game.

And I think you've got to hold down, obviously, home court.

So this is a battle.

And OKC, you mentioned it.

This is who they've been wire to wire.

And you got the MVP dropping the 40 ball.

You're going to win those type of games.

He shows up.

I know it's a lot being said about him being a free throw merchant, being this, being that, but he is.

Doris Burke dropping that one in the middle of the game again.

Yeah, yeah.

I'll tell you what.

I've never met Doris.

I've watched her do a lot of work.

Whenever I do anything, I can't be like checking my Twitter mentions.

You know, because normally there's some positive, a lot of, hey, this guy needs to never have a microphone in front of him again.

That's the nature of the beast when we're in this.

I was calling Monday Night Raw last night down in Tampa Bay.

Beautiful city, hot as hell.

I checked my phone, see the trending topics, you know.

AMA's was right there at the top.

No Taylor Swift.

Yeah, interesting.

What's that all about?

Good question.

Sierra looked great.

I heard.

I heard there was a lot of great things.

AMA's number one.

Obviously, WW Raw was number two.

Shout out to Raw.

And then number three was Doris Burke.

I was like, Doris must have a good call.

I clicked on it.

Holy shit.

There isn't a single positive.

No.

Doris cannot check her ex.

Hey, Doris, keep doing your thing, Doris.

Yeah.

Keep doing your thing.

And also, if you know Doris, I think we should send her some positive messaging.

I think if you know Doris and have her phone number, which we do not, should text her positive stuff because it gets loud out there for Doris.

But yes, the free throw merchant line is one of the ones that kind of sparks the fire.

Also, I think there was a World War II reference out there.

But the free throw merchant one is the big conversation that everybody rallies around.

And Jamal Crawford came on.

And he said, if you were to eliminate free throws, SGA would still be the leading scorer in the NBA.

And he wasn't just talking about SGA's free throws.

He he was talking about the entire league's free throws.

If he got rid of all free throws for everybody, SGA would still be the highest scoring player in the NBA.

He's such a talent, he's so damn good, which is why I think everybody hates the way he kind of goes about getting the fouls and the free throws.

I think that is part of the problem.

No doubt.

I mean, the guy scores 40 points, though.

You understand if he's getting, you know, 28 points a game and he has 14 free throws.

Guy dropped 40.

He was unbelievable last night.

He almost had a triple-double.

The other guy, and by the way, with Doris, T's and P's, but also for everybody watching tonight, TNT game.

So, you know, you can put your phones down, swords down.

Reggie Miller's going to be in the building.

I think a lot of people on the internet are going to be happy about that.

I'm not saying I'm one of those, but once again, I think it's a much more enjoyable night.

But another guy for OKC, and a lot of people kind of talk about OKC with this caveat of, you know, they have this 7-2 freak no one likes to look at.

But Chet Holmgren was fantastic tonight.

Who says that?

Who says he's a 7-2 freak?

A lot of people are saying, hey, Wemby kind of looks cool because he's that tall.

Other people are saying, like, hey, Chet Holmgren kind of looks like a freak as well.

I mean, he's 7-2.

He's going to look different, obviously.

Humans aren't supposed to be that tall, that athletic.

Chet's a dog, though.

He was like 8 of 9 last night.

I forget what it was.

Almost a perfect game for Chet Holmgren.

Yeah, he had a massive block down the stretch when they were trading baskets, when Caruso and Jalen Williams had their massive threes to answer.

You know, Jaden McDaniels and.

Yeah, we lost you completely.

I have been static since I sat up here.

But Jalen Williams.

Oh, yeah, exactly.

But Ant had his first three later in the game, and then Chet Holmgren had a massive block down the stretch.

So if him, Jalen Williams, and SGA are going, you know, we can have fun in a game four in Indiana.

But there's a Titan staring down the barrel on the other side.

The conference finals have certainly been electrifying.

Got a lot of people saying, wow.

ESPN's going to be pissed if this is OKC Indiana.

Certainly.

I don't think that's true.

This Pacers team is must-watch.

Battle Tornado Alice.

Must, must, must-watch.

OKC must-watch.

It's electrifying through and through.

If the Knicks get a big-time win, obviously a lot of people in suits are going to be excited, which we'll talk to a few of them.

But it looks like we're staring down a potential OKC Pacer final, and that's going to be a lot of running, a lot of gunning, a lot of bopping wood, a lot of good defense.

That's what basketball is all about.

Before we bring up Shams, we're going to hit some other things that happen in the sports world.

Alex Paolo won the 109th running of the Indy 500.

First ever Spaniard

to win the Indy 500.

Congrats to him.

He has won the IndyCar Series multiple times, three out of the last four years.

Back to back, he's won the entire IndyCar season.

Had never won the Indy 500.

He picks up a massive win on Sunday after a great race.

Great race.

Grace.

Got a chance to be there.

They're saying, now this is just people that I've talked to.

Source

have said 400,000 plus people

at that Indy 500.

This city is equipped to host that type of thing.

This city hosts the largest sporting event on earth every single year.

This one was sold out and packed to the gills.

400,000 plus people came to watch these cars go 230 miles plus for 500 miles.

A lot of action.

A lot of action.

The pits were alive and well.

Not always good.

There were some crashes before the race even started.

It was electrifying, and we appreciate the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and we appreciate everybody that went out there.

And congrats to Paolo.

There was also a lot of drama.

So

Joseph Newgarden, back-to-back Indi 500 winner, was disqualified from even qualifying for the Indy 500.

He was placed 32 or something because they welded the back piece of his car to get a little bit better aerodynamics.

He would have known nothing about it because what they were doing to that particular car would actually break his back.

So it's something that he would not be on board with.

So Joseph Newgarden had no clue that this was happening.

So he gets disqualified to qualify, so they put him at 32.

Now, after the race is finished, Erickson, who ran number two in two other cars, did not pass post-race inspections, so they got sent to the back as well.

Penske, who owns IndyCar, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and the Indy 500, a man who's been around racing for his entire adult life, I do believe, loves cars.

He has Joseph Newgarden's car.

So I think there was a chance that they said, oh.

My car is illegal.

Let's make sure in this post-game in spare post-race inspections, we're doing some looking around.

Andretti cars got fined.

Other cars got dinged.

They're in the middle of a massive transition right now for the Indy 500.

And I think everybody's lucky that Paolo won.

Because if number two, Erickson wins that and his car doesn't pass post-race inspection,

chaos happens in the IndyCar world.

So congrats to Paolo winning clean, and congrats to IndyCar being in the middle of like a transition period right now where I think they're about to lock down and be bigger than ever.

Anytime you hold an event where 400,000 plus people come, you're doing something right.

Congrats to IndyCar.

Congrats to the Indy 500.

And congrats to Paolo, the first ever Spaniard of Chipkinassi Racing, winning a 500-mile race.

He took the lead with 14 laps left and then just never looked back.

He dominated.

Yeah, and if Erickson would have won, it would have been two years in a row where they would have had a little bit of an asterisk on the winner, so that would have been bad.

But 400,000 people there.

The race was electric.

Our guy, Connor Daly, was making moves up to the front before he had an issue.

Joseph Newgard had an issue in the pits.

There was a lot of issue in the pits.

A crew member almost lost his leg in the pits.

There was a lot going on, like the early part when it was delayed, and then there was, what, three cautions early?

It was like, do these...

McLachlan didn't even make a bit of race.

They didn't know how to drive, but no.

Stop dicking around.

He heated off.

Please warm up the tires.

I don't care.

Stop diarrhea.

The 8500, man.

Lock in.

What are we doing dicking around like that?

He's warming up the tires because it was chilly out there, Bub.

I mean, I get it.

We're having fun, but this is what happens when you have fun.

You spin out like a buffoon, and then you're in the middle of the infield holding your head in your hands.

Hey, buddy, come on.

Some people bet money on this thing.

On you, Scotty.

You son of a bitch.

Thanks to Aught for nothing.

You think Scotty's happy about how that worked out?

You think Scotty's happy about what happened there?

I don't know.

I don't know.

You said he lost money.

You know how much money Scotty lost?

I don't know.

Was he out of there early?

Was he eating dinner by the time the race ended?

Because he was like, you know what?

Shit, maybe I did lose, but it's nice to be in my loafers hanging out.

Scotty's a racer.

He wanted to be there.

He's heading to Detroit next week.

He gave a statement about next year's Indy 500.

He's going to be on it.

He's going to be ready.

Learned a lesson.

The rookie who came from F2 was sitting on the pole.

We thought there was a chance that any 500 was going to swallow him, especially if all the Indy cars got around him.

He certainly dropped back into the pack quickly.

And then in pit, he almost, I mean, that was a dangerous situation.

There was a lot of dangerous situations in the pit.

Certainly a much better race than any other race that happened the entire Sunday.

F1 started with Monaco in the morning.

That was electrifying.

Listen.

Listen,

I'll be honest.

So qualifying Saturday, always electric in Monaco.

That was single-handedly the worst sporting event I've ever spent an hour and a half actually watching.

It was absolutely terrible.

It was everything you guys have said.

It has been.

But that's Monaco, baby.

It is a spectacle.

It's for the snobs to kind of get up, link up.

The race was terrible.

The top four drivers, they stay in the top four the entire time.

Shout out to Lando.

Lando won and Monaco.

And Vanderstaffin up in the Van.

So McLaren still at the top of the leaderboard.

He got a win, which is still a huge deal in F1 if you win in Monaco.

But the cards are too big.

You can't pass.

You literally can't pass.

So, obviously, that's racing.

I don't know what the hell happened in NASCAR.

Nicole Kola 600 did.

Kyle crashed.

Yeah, I don't know.

So he crashed here and there.

Yeah, that's a tough day for Kyle Larson.

It's a tough day.

You think it's a wrap for the whole team?

Yeah.

He's done with the double.

Yeah,

I don't think Kyle's going to be doing 500 again.

Okay.

Which we will miss him.

We appreciate him, Kyle.

It's got a lot of racing left.

Maybe in the future.

You need to get a chance to chat with him because you got sick from that popcorn.

Boy, I forgot about that slight corner.

He was small.

He was a small guy.

He was a small guy.

He was a good racer.

Yeah, a lot of those drivers are small, though.

I don't think his Indy car was fast enough.

He knew it.

Going it, yeah.

You can tell if your car is fast.

That's like Newgarden was starting a 32.

He was the fastest car ever to start a 32.

So I see he's making his move through the pack.

It was very obvious, like, oh, this guy's car is better than everybody else.

Then he has a pit problem.

Everything goes to shit.

That sucked.

Yeah, it does.

You got to get lucky at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Apollo did that.

What other news happened around the sports world?

Caitlin Clark will be out for at least two weeks.

She has a quad strain that has been bugging her since training camp.

That stinks for the fever, obviously.

That stinks for our city.

That also stinks for the WNBA as a whole.

Feels like this year, a lot of more common sense is kind of settling in.

Caitlin Clark is the needle mover.

The Indiana fever are the draw.

They're going to be without Cece for at least a couple weeks as she rests and tries to heal up a quad strain.

That sucks for everybody in the WNBA.

It definitely sucks for the fever here, Ty.

Yeah, without a doubt.

And, you know, you hate to say it, but like, this will be the litmus test for the nba we can we'll we'll end the conversation once and for all like if the the fever go out and and we're not and the ratings aren't the same because she's not playing then it's a it's a pretty clear indication like you said like she is the needle mover she is the main draw you just hope that the uh the fever can withstand it as well because two weeks i mean that's that's a decent chunk of games in their season and they've been off to a good start here you hope they don't 42 games or 44 games i think yeah something like that so i mean what she'll probably miss what like eight games maybe give or take six to eight games.

That's a lot of games.

And that's if she stays on track for recovery, because we know these soft tissue injuries, the calves, the quads, the hammies, those are kind of touch and go, each individual injury.

So, you said it's been bothering her since training camp sounds like that.

She's fine.

I said, Yeah, that was before.

Been kind of gutting it out.

That's tough, especially all the running and change of direction that basketball players do.

Dude, so hopefully, CC gets back there sooner than later.

And like you said, the fever can hold surface.

They put a good roster around Caitlin.

So hopefully.

Great roster.

Great roster.

A lot of dogs on that team.

Yeah, and she she was the MVP.

I don't know if my mic is working.

It is.

Yes, it is.

Okay, great.

And not to mention, some of these arenas.

The arenas have been moved on away games to the massive stadium.

So you wonder if, you know, those screenshots, you talk about the Lip Mitz test, the screenshots from those arenas without Caitlin Clark now might be very, very bad.

But it is a bummer.

She was, you know, going to win the MVP.

Still might.

You know, that's not out of the question at all, but she was the bet in favor.

I'm going to say this after watching

WNBA clips on the internet.

Sure.

A lot of them.

A lot of them.

A lot of highlights or lowlights getting spruced together.

Yep.

If Angel Reese gets good around the hoop,

problematic.

She looks like a varsity player going against JV.

She had five rebounds in 19 seconds.

That's right.

Five rebounds in 19 seconds.

I know everybody's saying, like, you shouldn't be able to do that, you're whatever the case.

But imagine if she starts putting those in.

I mean, that's going to be, she's potentially getting 40-40.

Mike and drill.

That's all she needs.

Anybody not familiar with the mic and drill, you go to that hoop, left-hand layup, right-hand layup.

Left-hand layup, right-hand layup.

If I'm her coach,

if I'm in her camp, two hours of that every day, cardio workout.

I mean, you're talking about maybe most dominant player of all time.

She's hucking that thing off the backboard, grabbing it.

There's nobody else even on the court.

Just five rebounds in 19 seconds.

That has to be the most, in the quickest amount of time, in the history of professional basketball.

Imagine those start falling.

That's a problem.

Yeah, I mean, as a fever fan, I'm sitting here.

You know, they talk about the fever-sky robbery, and everybody says, it's not robbery because sky aren't good and everything like that.

It's like, she starts making those?

Oh, yeah.

Game changer.

Oh, my God.

It's not an exaggeration.

She starts doing the mic and drill.

We might be looking at 40, 40.

40 points, 40 rebounds every single night.

Yeah.

We need to prepare for that.

We got two weeks without Kaylee.

We need to get ready for everything about that.

All right, let's get some more NBA news, shall we?

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, a man who's incredibly handsome, a man who actually said, I'm going to get out of Minnesota and I'm going to come over here to Indianapolis to celebrate the day with the great people of Indiana.

Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Sharon, yeah.

Get the coffee, boys.

He said, make more noise.

He's got juice.

Let's get it.

Let's get it.

How about that?

A little pop.

Hey, you got to bring the excitement.

A little pop for Shams.

This is a historic show.

To me, this is a historic moment.

You know, from where this was six years ago, you're on site for an NBA playoff game.

Hell yeah.

Yeah, you're right.

On site for an NBA playoff game.

Yeah, that's right.

Big deal.

Big deal.

That's right.

We were talking earlier about how the Pacers threatened to sue me like eight years ago, so I decided I was never going to talk to them again.

You said that.

I thought they were suing you today.

No, they might.

I mean, who knows with their style?

I think it is a new group of people.

Yeah, we'll see.

We'll see.

Tyrese Halliburton comes into this city, gets traded, obviously, from Sacramento over here.

He takes our city over.

I mean, he embodies everything that this city is about.

He's kind of a nerd, got a lot of moxie, works his ass off, loves living here.

That is a team represented by a guy who loves the city, and the city loves him.

So, as soon as I got a chance to meet Tyrese, as soon as I got a chance to chat with him, a lot of new people in positions here at the Pacers as well.

It has been an honor to be a Pacers fan again.

I told you the story about my first couple years in the league here, whenever the Heatles were taking on the Pacers,

I was a pillar at these games.

I was at basically every single pace.

I was pulling boards.

I was making a whole lot of people.

5,000 tickets to sell out.

Yeah, I mean, about 5,000 tickets one game so we could get a sellout here.

Yeah, I mean, that was the whole thing.

Yeah,

I thought I was tight with the Pacers, and then they threatened to sue me, and it's like, okay, I hate you forever.

And I don't.

I'm all the way back.

And they're a great team to represent this great city.

Now, let's talk about it.

Game three, they give up a 20-point lead at home.

What are you hearing from the Pacers camp?

What are you hearing from the Knicks camp?

I feel like the Knicks probably have to feel great about how game three went for the rest of the series.

Oh, shut up.

The Pacers haven't won a game three all playoffs.

They've won every other game.

So to me, it's the attention to detail, the discipline.

Clearly, when you go up 20 points, they let go of the gas a little bit.

But you have to give the Knicks a lot of credit.

They went into that fourth quarter.

They were down.

And you saw what Carl Anthony Towns did.

He played like a flat-out superstar in that game.

And that, to me, is a positive sign, right?

Because in a lot of ways, there's that question, right?

Can Jalen Brunson be the best player on your team to win a championship?

But that's why you bring in a guy like Carl Anthony Townsend.

He's supposed to be that guy, and he played like that guy.

So if they get that superstar effort from him again, I think this Knicks team should feel really good about themselves.

There's a lot of stuff coming out about Jalen Brunson and Kat not being on the court at the same time, not good for the Knicks or something like that.

There was foul trouble.

Jalen Brunson was in foul trouble, so I'm not going to buy into that.

I would like to say, as somebody that has not done the research or the stats, yeah, keep Jalen Brunson on the bench.

I think that's a good point.

They're not sitting Jalen Brunson unless he's in foul trouble or if he gets hurt.

Those are the only ways he doesn't play 40.

No, I thought stats were saying that he needs to not be on the corner court to keep him on the bench.

Whenever stats are saying that, they need to be louder and they need to be spotlighted.

Tom Thibodeau went nine players deep in his rotation.

What's the knock on Tom Thibodeau, right?

He only goes seven deep or eight deep in a playoff game.

Doesn't really trust his bench.

Well, he trusted his bench.

He didn't play campaigns.

Had to.

You moved on right.

Played a lot in game three, so you're going with a more defensive-minded player at that position.

You move Mitchell Robinson in the starting lineup, so you give Carl Anthony Towns some defensive support, but then you have Josh Hart coming off the bench.

I think that gives you another look as well, another shot creator coming off that bench.

But at the end of the day, this is going to come down to this.

Can Carl Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson play like superstars?

If they can, this Knicks team can make it to the finals.

If not, the Pacers are too good.

The Pacers are too good and they're too deep.

And the way Pascal Siakim is playing right now, he's playing like a superstar.

Yeah, Siakim, obviously the only all-star for the Indiana Pacers.

We're lucky to get him in a trade from Toronto.

Love everything he's about.

Just loves ball.

Just loves ball.

That's what this Indiana Pacers team is.

They just love ball.

And I think that's why the city loves them so much because they're maximum effort.

Now, let's talk about a guy that I love.

I assume most of the city loves.

He's back in the building tonight.

The aura of Papa Howard Burton is back.

Okay.

Three pops.

So who had to make this decision?

Was it the NBA?

Was it the Pacers?

And what are the stipulations?

I know he's not allowed to touch the wood.

Yeah, he's not going to be sitting in courtside.

He's going to be sitting on the court.

He is barred from courtside.

He's not going to be sitting on the court.

I think, you know, for any games moving forward, home games, definitely he's going to be in a suite.

I do think the conversation is going to continue.

If this Pacers team makes it to the finals, I think you're going to have to have conversations.

What does that look like?

Do you bring him on the road and let him sit in a suite on the road?

That's probably where he might be.

Sank this guy anyway.

Yeah.

So

but he will be in the building tonight.

And listen, this is a decision the Pacers for an office made.

And think about it.

Tyrese Halliburton's a guy you want to spend their entire career.

They not only want Tyrese Halliburton, they want John Halliburton committed to the city, committed to this franchise for the next how many ever years Tyrese Halliburton plays?

10 years.

So when they made the decision to essentially ban him from home and road games moving forward, he's missed eight games in a row.

I will say this, that's not an easy decision to make, but it is a decision, something had to happen.

Because anytime a fan, if it's a normal fan and they step out on the court, Pat, that's a year ban at least.

But this is a father and a son relationship.

This is a father of a star player on this team.

So I think the NBA allowed the Pacers to really handle it in the best way.

And I think all these sides are communicating and they feel this is the best route.

Eight games, he's back in the house tonight.

He is gonna be there tonight.

Pops having a good time watching those games.

Was that a bar in Indy?

Is that where he was?

It looked like it.

I believe so.

Yeah, it might have been Halliburton's bar.

Call it John's right down the street.

I thought maybe he'd show up in New York and do that.

That would have been a sight.

Nah, we don't need a sight.

We need to keep John safe and sound.

You saw what happened in the New York Fire Times.

I forgot about that.

I forgot about that.

They could throw trash at him, Sean.

Yeah, you want John Halbert getting thrown in a dumpster.

That's your bum.

You become a coastal elitist.

They got to have security around them.

Send him to a bar in New York.

Make him turn up.

John's not going to do security.

I don't know what you...

You have a misread on Pops here.

He's not walking around security, but you talk about a regular fan getting on the court.

There's a reason John was just led on the court.

Because everybody here business is.

He's

Halbert's dad, and he's John Halbert.

And he's a great personality.

He's been to all these games.

He's a very, very committed.

Committed father.

Very, very committed father to Tyrese Halbert.

I think Miles Turner, when Miles Turner did his media yesterday, he was just like, they asked him about it, about essentially the band being lifted.

And he didn't even respond to that.

He just said, I love a father-and-son relationship.

I love the fact that a father can go see his son play as he's trying to make it to the NBA Finals and win the conference.

So I think that's what this is about.

The paces are moving on.

Tyrese Halliburton's moving on.

I know about that.

Yeah, John ain't going to forget the.

Let's make sure that is known.

We can't wait to see him back in the building in a suite tonight all right let's talk about some other stuff around the nba we were chit-chatting with you earlier and i don't want to out what you said privately publicly but you said hey this might be a pretty active this is summer here for the nba let's start with some of the big names yannis obviously the big name that everybody thinks going to be on the move what do you think about him what do you think the expectation is and am i accurate in saying this is going to be an active summer for the nba pat this This is the most, I think, anticipation team executives have had over an offseason.

I think this is going to be the craziest offseason of all of I don't want to say all time.

We just came off a trade deadline.

We just came off a trade deadline that I think might have been the craziest of all time.

I think this offseason might be the most craziest ever because I think there's so many

craziest lives.

MCE.

MCE.

MCE.

Most craziest ever, dude.

Most craziest ever.

Probably Grammar Police is like it's craziest ever.

No, no, you got your point across.

It's the most craziest ever.

Because I think what you have right now is you have the parody of the league.

It's so thin right now.

Like, as far as the thin line of where you can win a championship or you might be falling into the lottery.

And I think the ability to go out there and improve your team and get there to championship level, I think that's on the minds of everyone around the league.

So how can you elevate your team?

And now you have players like Ayanis and Decumpo.

I reported a few weeks ago.

He is open-minded.

He is right now in the process of figuring out: is my home, my forever home, going to be in Milwaukee, or is it time to go pursue a championship somewhere else?

I'm told that process is ongoing.

There still has not yet been a big moment of truth meeting, I'm told, between the Bucs and Giannis Nejita Cumpo.

That will happen at some point in the offseason.

But the Bucs are operating as if, listen, loyalty is going to win out.

We're going to have Giannis there.

He's been there for 12 years.

You know, a player like that, loyalty means a lot.

Equity means a lot.

And so the Bucs are banking on that.

They're banking on a gap year, essentially, where they're going to be able to retool around Giannis.

Oh, they're going to guild trip him.

Sounds like.

Because they only have one first-round pick they can trade.

They lack the high-level tradable contracts.

So if you want to go make your team better, John Horster, General Management, what he's done, he's gone out and gotten Drew Holiday in 2020 when Giannis' future was up in the year.

He went out and got Damian Lillard in 2023 when Giannis' future was in the year.

This year, he doesn't really have that same bandwidth to go make moves.

And so it's going to come down to loyalty.

Will Giannis look at this team and say, we got Brooke Lopez back.

We got Bobby Portis back.

I'm going to run it back with these guys.

or is he gonna look elsewhere?

And if he looks elsewhere, Pat, brother, that will be a big market that we're gonna see for Yannis DeCumbol.

I mean, I do think the Pacers are becoming a team where they've got the, I think, eighth or ninth lowest payroll, but eventually, here they're turning into a destination.

You're damn right they are.

Tyrese Halliburton.

Shut up, Sean.

We're back-to-back Easter Carpenter.

It's final.

They're turning into a destination.

That's a big statement.

They're turning into a destiny, like a real destination.

I think players, look at Tyrese Halliburton, look at Pascal Siakim, and what this front office has done such a good job of, I said it a few weeks ago,

they've done so great at identifying dogs.

They've done everything they can

to scout players that they know want to win and want to compete.

And that's becoming a big trend line in the NBA.

But Jonsendekumpo is still in the process of figuring out what his future looks like.

I think between now and the start of Fiji, we're going to get some more answers.

Deebon has a question for you, Sheriff.

Real quick, before I get my question, how does he feel about Doc Rivers being the head coach and still being there?

How much is that playing, according to what you know, how much is that playing to his decision to stay or leave?

I don't expect that to play a big decision into Yannis and DeCumpo's mindset.

It's going to come down to what gives me the best opportunity to win a championship.

So he's going to look at the roster.

He's going to look at what moves they can make, what moves they can't make.

And listen, Yannison DeCumpo, a player like that, is always going to have respect for the coach.

And Doc Rivers has been there the last year and a half, but I don't think he's making that decision just solely off of that.

Okay, got it.

And going into next year, we had some major injuries in the NBA this year.

Obviously, Kyrie Irving after that trade, he tore his knee up, and then Wimby, he had the blood clot situations.

Obviously, Tatum in the playoffs.

What are the outlooks for those big-time players going into next year, as far as what you know right now?

So, Tatum as well, Achilles tear.

I mean, he's expected to miss most of next season, if not the entire next season.

I think that's what Boston is prepared for.

And the surgery that he got,

Dr.

O'Malley at HSS in New York City, same doctor that did Kevin Durant.

And Kevin Durant did his surgery about 36 hours post Achilles tear.

Jason Tatum did it in like just over 12 hours after the Achilles tear.

So that time difference, I think the doctor there believes that the time helps and will allow him to heal better.

But Kevin Durant also got 18 months off before he came back.

So you're going to have to be very cautious with Jason Tatum and when he gets back.

And what you're going to see from the Celtics as well is they're going to start to reshift their team.

So I think they're going to be patient with him.

Kyrie Irving, there's optimism around him and around the Mavericks.

He could be back at some point in January or February.

But again, it's an ACL tear.

He suffered in March.

We'll see exactly when he'll be able to be back.

Wemby.

And Wemby.

He's been doing some on-court stuff.

We've been seeing it on social media.

So that should be a positive sign.

And the Spurs, everything I hear, they fully expect him to be ready to go for the start of next season, for the start of training camp.

That is amazing news for the San Antonio Spurs.

And the NBA.

Yeah, we'll talk about that.

For Wemby to be ready.

Backback movies in the New York Times.

Yeah, Wemby doesn't want anything to do with the Pacers, but I understand what you're talking about.

It's good for the NBA.

They also have a ton of assets.

They have tradable contracts.

They have the number two pick.

They have the number 14 pick in this year's draft.

They have a

bunch of tradable picks as well moving forward.

They have all their picks.

LFA.

Whether there's a player like a Yansen de DeCoufo, I think of Kevin Durant's another guy that the Spurs, there was mutual interest in at the deadline.

I think they're going to be looking very actively to see, is there a wing player we can bring in that could take us over the top?

Spurs have a number two overall pick.

Mavericks have the number one overall pick.

Last time we talked to them, they're picking Cooper Flag.

Yeah, they don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Yeah, they don't know.

They can't.

What was that?

You don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth.

What the hell does that mean?

That means you've been handed something.

Don't disrespect it.

There might be a real riot in Dallas if they move the number one pick, right?

Yeah, but what if they trade with Connor?

Has a question for you.

Yeah, exactly.

You just mentioned they're looking for a real wing player.

And I mean, weeks ago, you reported about the Celtics this kind kind of being the last run of this industry.

Yeah, thank you for that.

On this particular program,

where did that happen?

Yeah, journalism.

We did something.

Was that here?

Right.

Not here, but in the city.

On PMS.

All right, got it.

And then there's another thing, I believe, with Halliburton that was on this program.

Yeah, yeah, he said free pops till it's backwards on PMS.

Thank you, thank you.

I think like weeks ago.

Yes, we did.

We're ahead of time, yes, which is weird.

Most people only see that from TNT, but when you're thinking of the Celtics,

you mentioned Drew Holiday, poor Zingis, Horford, Brown, like a lot of these guys, they're cost a lot of money.

Who knows where they're going to be?

What do you see with them?

And then do you see those players for the Celtics being moved for players?

Do you see them being moved for picks?

What's kind of the situation in Boston now?

Is anybody untouchable?

And are those top three picks, I guess I'll say two of the three, the number two pick and number three pick, are those on the table for those teams to trade with the Celtics?

what are we looking at here for Boston so let's go for the Celtics they're going to make trades the Boston Celtics will have a much different roster next season potentially they'll definitely have a different roster the question is just how severe as far as the movement is going to be for them I think Jason Tatum you have to What's going on here?

We're talking football.

Keep going.

Sean's a terrible freshman,

you look at Jason Tatum, of course he's injured.

Can't really trade him.

That's really the face of your franchise.

I think after that, it's really going to depend on what value can you get.

I think teams are going to express a lot of interest in Drew Holiday.

Teams are going to inquire about Christos Brzingas.

Teams are going to inquire about Jalen Brown.

And I think the Celtics are going to have to identify what value can we get for each of these players.

Which player does it make sense to trade?

Is there anywhere where we can get some players back that can help right now, potentially help us moving forward?

We can get some assets for...

This team probably isn't going to be in the same place as far as contention.

But listen, you have have Joe Mazzoula as your coach.

You still have a chance potentially to get Jason Tatum back at the end of the season.

If you keep Jalen Brown, he's a guy that you have a lot of faith in to lead this team.

So I think they're going to do a lot of things to retool this roster.

But again,

there's a lot of question marks around Al Horford's future, Drew Holiday, Christas Prozingis.

We said it on this show.

The Celtics will explore trades.

They're going to make moves this summer.

Send them all down to the Mavs, get the number one overall pick.

All of of a sudden you got the main event, Cooper flag with the Boston Celtics waiting for Jason Tatum for a year.

All of a sudden now the New England area is allowed.

I'm going to be a professional again.

And I remember you said the picks two and three.

I think pick two, the plan is to pick at number two.

But I think, listen, if you have a chance to get Giannis and DeCumpo, you have to look at something like that.

Pick number three is Philadelphia.

I think their goal is to draft at that pick.

I think there's about three players they like at number three, but they're going to get a ton of of calls on number three.

That's a team with Joelle Embiid, Tyreek Maxie, Paul George.

They're trying to get away from the ball.

And they suck, right?

I don't know enough about the NBA.

The Sixers are terrible.

Not supposed to be.

They need Joelle Embiid to be healthy on the floor.

American gold medalist, Joelle and Biede.

People forget.

They need gold medalists, former league MVPs.

Shouldn't have been there.

What are you talking about?

He shouldn't have been there.

He shouldn't have been there.

That's Joe Embiid, baby.

You better watch your mouth when he goes.

Great player.

He wanted to win gold, though.

MVP, I understand that.

He was doing it for our country.

He was born and raised in Omaha.

Yeah, he did for our country.

No, I'm not saying he's

qualified to be on the team, but we're talking about trust in the process.

How many years and how many times have he been healthy in the second or in the finals for his whole team?

Well, he didn't pay max money.

He had a point.

He's MVP.

He has never had a fully healthy playoff run.

And just think about that.

To me, it's like he's so great when he's healthy.

And that's what, if you're the Sixers, if you can get Joel MB to be fully healthy, you have a chance to compete for championship.

That's really all your season rides on.

And so we'll know.

We'll know very soon how does his offseason go?

Does he have any setbacks?

And if he doesn't, how does he look going into the season?

Let's talk about another Olympic gold medalist multiple times.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Shams, what's the let us update on LeBron?

I mean, obviously, we know this guy, you know, he could play for 10, 15 more years if he wanted to.

What are the Lakers going to do specifically with him?

We know all year they needed a center.

Maybe look at a guy like Luca Garzo, see if they can bring him in and see what we're doing.

The real Luca.

Yes.

A lot of people are saying that.

I'm not going to say it, but a lot of people are saying that.

Highest points per minute in the history of the NBA playoffs.

He's also the first one off the bench class.

Yo, he's every single day.

He can play.

He can play.

Luka Garza.

He knows.

We hate that news, too.

Sky's blue.

But what is kind of the latest update on LeBron and what are the Lakers going to do this offseason?

I'm told he's likely to opt in.

He's got a player option about $54 million, $57 million.

He's got a massive player option.

For God's money.

That's likely.

That's the plan.

But again, his option date, Pat, is June 29th.

So he still has about a month to figure out.

There's going to be some hard conversations

that are going to happen between him, the Lakers, seeing what this team looks like.

Because listen, LeBron James, whether he plays one more season or a few more seasons, he wants to be in a competitive environment.

And I said it

when I came on when their season ended.

He's probably going to opt in because the option is so big.

And then that gives you flexibility to figure out: do you extend off that number or if this is the final year, if this is the last, hurrah, essentially, you know, year 23 for number 23.

They have all-star weekend in Los Angeles.

So to me, it's very storybook if that's the way it goes.

But that's a decision that he's got to make.

The big question for the Lakers, though, are they going to find a center, a true center?

And I think Rob Palinka, the president general manager, that's his biggest focus of the offseason.

They didn't go and get the Mark Williams trade.

There was obviously a lot of controversy about that.

This summer, their number one objective is going and getting a center, replenishing their depth on the wings, and then seeing how does LeBron James, how does Luka Doncich feel about that roster moving forward?

Okay, let's stick with the Lakers, and obviously, whatever LeBron does, we'll be pumped about.

He blessed us with the LeBron Versations and

always back him.

Yeah, 23 years good, 26 years better, whatever the hell he wants to do, good luck over there in LA.

If he wants to come to Indiana, he said Tyrese Halliburton is a guy you'd love to play with.

I saw it.

I will say this: the Lakers,

there's a decision, not a decision, but they've got some conversations internally because LeBron James has been there since

2019, 2020.

Oh, don't get it it wrong.

He's been there for six, seven seasons.

And he's won a championship there.

He's been in the Western Conference Finals another time there.

He's brought you some success there at a point where they were really at their lowest when they got him.

They weren't really competing for championships.

But you have him.

Do you do right and try to restructure the team, try to involve him in your decision making?

But then you also have this player, Luca Doncic.

On that note, Tony has a question based on your franchise.

How do you handle it?

That's going to be a big challenge for them.

Yeah, just talk about on the court, but off the court, too, massive conversation.

I don't know if you you saw Luca this weekend.

He was looking fit.

Yeah, and I'm not saying he doesn't normally, but your Wagovis, your Manjaros, your Ozempic, your semi-glutides, is that on the NBA banned substance list?

Or is this just, this is just hard work from Luca?

And why is it just talked about so, so much?

You know what?

I actually looked into the Ozempic thing about a couple of years ago.

I was told that I don't think it is.

If that's wrong,

I'm going to have to go back and look this up.

But it wasn't then.

You know, Zion looks in amazing shape.

We see Luka Dotsch.

But, you know, this is off-season, right?

So, like, these guys, clearly, they're putting the work in.

I saw the pictures of Luka Dotschic.

I have not seen him.

So, I can't

see that it was AI.

I did see Zion Williamson.

The fact he's wearing a white t-shirt in public would tell me he doesn't think he has a gut.

I did see Zion Williamson

at the draft lottery, and he looks slender.

He looks amazing as well.

Zion?

Maybe he should come to Indiana.

Whatever they're doing

abroad, in Slovenia, wherever Luka Doncic is right now, clearly he's putting in the work.

But I think that was part of the big conversation with JJ Reddick, and you have Luka Doncic, their relationship.

JJ Reddick's the type of coach that can tell Luka Donce, like, listen, we need you to be in the best position.

We need everyone on this roster to be in the best possible shape.

J.J.

Reddick said after the season, we were not the best conditioned we could be.

Now, whether that's something toward Luca, whether that's something toward four or five other players on the team, but clearly it was something he wanted to get across, I'm sure he's gotten that across the floor.

Well, Nico said, yeah, me and Nutritionist said this guy's never going to learn.

So it'd be nice if Luca came back.

He's absolutely ripped and jocked.

A guy like Luka Doncic, five all-NBA teams every single year, all-star every single year.

He's one of the best players in the world.

You don't get to that stage without putting in a ton of work.

You don't get to that stage without working on your body.

You don't get to that stage besides all that.

I will say, like Zion Williamson, when there's those calf injuries, anything lower body, it does impact how you condition.

So hopefully Luka Doncic, the big thing for him is staying healthy on the floor.

Yeah, good luck, Luca.

We're pulling for you, Luca.

Food is healthier over there, too.

Yeah, because they don't have all the dyes and stuff.

Yeah, they're not trying to kill.

Every once in a while, a video will pop up on my algo, and I'll say, what have I been eating?

That's like whenever you learn about a company that you use through another company's commercial.

Like, hey, we're not like insert name of other banks and do all this stuff to you.

We don't do that.

I'm like, is my bank doing that?

I need to have a conversation.

That's kind of what happens here in this situation.

Yeah, without doubt, not to mention all the artificial sweeteners we got over here.

You know, they're not dealing with that over there.

They're just smoking cigarettes from the time they're smoking hookahs straight up.

Exactly.

Which helps.

No filters.

Yeah, and I love that.

Good for them.

And Luca's earned the right to enjoy his life.

And if he feels like he's in the best shape he could possibly be, good for him.

We're here in Indianapolis, Indiana for game four tonight of the Eastern Conference Finals.

Oh, yeah.

This is a really cool part of town.

We're kind of nestled downtown here.

People fill in the steps.

We've got people up here.

We got a beautiful mural.

It's gorgeous.

I've never really hung out here, to be clear.

Never Never really seen this area.

Whenever they offered this space up for the show, I said, I don't know what you're talking about.

Then they sent photos.

Look at the arch here.

I don't know.

That's art of some sort.

Oh, yeah.

That's some sort of thing.

Bigger one in St.

Louis.

I think it's just been a couple years, bro.

Gateway to the West.

They made this whole entire thing two summers ago, I think.

Yeah, it's beautiful.

It's one soft place in my heart.

This is where I first started covering games here in Milwaukee.

The Bulls, I was not able to cover games with the Bulls.

I was a college kid, high school kid.

They didn't want to credential me.

Find people here.

They didn't sue me.

They gave me credentials.

Milwaukee gave me credentials.

So I'm very fortunate to, you know, you always need that opportunity to get through the door.

Yeah, we love having you here in Indianapolis.

How do you think tonight goes?

Make a pick.

Yeah.

Make a pick, Shams.

I think whoever wins this game wins the series.

That's not a pick.

That's the pick.

Check what they said.

They said you're a coward.

This guy gets a lot of luck.

I will say he's got his shit kickers on.

I will say.

This guy came all the way down here to listen to you talk.

The Pacers.

The Pacers have not lost a game outside of game threes, so they are in good pole position tonight going into this.

Oh, oh, 8,500 reference.

Wow.

All right, we appreciate you.

We'll talk to you in the next hour, too.

You hang out for a bit.

I'm here.

I'm here.

Ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider for ESPN, friend of the program.

We remember when he was just young lads starting out.

I was in the spaceship.

Still earth.

Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Shirani.

Oh, yeah.

Sean's literally got on a plane and left Milwaukee to do this with us.

The best.

So cool.

He saw it on the internet.

All right, Shams.

Show me Shams.

Shams asking for an applause.

The showman

gets it.

Shams, let's not be asking for applauses, okay?

That's not a part of Shams' brand.

The boys here and ladies here love you, though.

How could you not love Shams?

He's always maintained being the same person, which is what we appreciate.

He works his ass off, which is what I appreciate.

And now he's at ESPN.

He gets more, hopefully, tips and insights than he's ever had.

And he's the future of covering it.

And yeah, he saw my tweet go out about us being here, and he's like, yo, PM, which nobody else in the history of my life calls me.

Oh, there's one.

There's one that I can think of.

You got a lot of nicknames sometimes.

Oh, yeah.

Swagoo calls me Kafi.

Yeah, Kafi.

PM, Jay Will.

J.

Will.

J.

Will.

Okay.

PM.

P Mac.

P-Mac.

A lot of P-MAX throughout my life.

Not a lot of PMs.

Kafi's the GOAT.

I've never heard of that before either.

I think that is

incredibly creative here by Swagoo, Emmy Award winner.

Congrats to him.

But he said, hey, P.M., you doing a show at a Pacer game?

I have to be there, right?

And I'm like, if you come, for sure.

He flew in, got here.

We appreciate the hell out of Shams.

Thank you, Shams.

Thank you for Shams.

Speaking of flying in, being a part of the show,

we didn't want to be a completely biased operation here.

We understand we're on ESPN.

So we needed the other side to be represented.

What's the other side?

Oh, the coastal elitist.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is certainly that, but somehow maintains a personality and a humility that makes us all fall in love with him.

Massive New York Knicks fan, ladies and gentlemen.

Peter Shregs.

Hell yeah, Shrags.

Shregs,

brother.

Good eat, good eat.

Goody.

Notice how we're not throwing trash bags at you, Shraigs.

I don't know if you saw that in the past.

Shregs,

they're coming to get your ass out of here.

I don't know if his mic is on, but we do know that we try to make you feel at home with sirens and such as if it was New York City.

Thank you for coming out here.

What are your thoughts on the city, Shraigs?

I love Indianapolis.

I've got a long history with Indianapolis.

The Combine is one of my favorite weeks.

This week, though, New York City's taking over.

I see you next week.

Yes, Shregs, yes.

I mean,

Pat, you guys are up two games to nothing.

Okay, you're up 20 points, and we got our best players with 5,000.

Yeah, let us back in the building.

All right, Shreggs.

You, much like most of the Knicks fans, some people here in Indianapolis might have fallen asleep during that Pacers game.

Sure.

Some people,

long day, that NE 500.

Racing and Pacers.

Trying to do both.

Trying to knock them both out.

You know, some people, even at the arena, there were some people maybe snoozing because 20-point game is a blowout.

Some people maybe didn't didn't make it to the arena, had tickets and fell asleep, didn't make it to the arena.

So they woke up, you know, with maybe 130 text messages from a lot of people from New York.

And boy, at the beginning of those text messages from all of you, Michael Cole sent one that said, I'm on to football season.

Sorry to the kids that are here.

There's a two-year-old Rocco earmuffs.

Fuck basketball is what a lot of New York fans were saying, okay, at the beginning of that game.

Then you guys come back, everybody had the same reaction at the end.

Holy hell, we're back in this thing.

And now all of a sudden there's a thought that game four is maybe like the most important game that has happened for New York in a long time.

You all understand you lose this one, it's probably over.

But if you steal another one and it goes 2-2, hold the door.

That is literally how all Knicks fans feel, right?

100%.

Look at the Knicks fans clapping here.

They're the Coastal Elites.

I would say, I mean,

I texted you in the second quarter after the Obi-Top and Duncan.

We used to have Obi- on the Knicks.

We love him.

A good player.

He has to dunk.

I texted you quite a hole we've dug ourselves here.

Yes, yes, sir.

So that was the text.

And then about two hours later, I'm like, let's go.

I'll see you on Tuesday.

Let's go.

That is right.

The truth of the matter is this, though.

You let the door open.

It was done.

It was done.

And for Knicks fans of this generation, I didn't grow up with Walt Clyde Frazier.

I didn't grow up with Willis Reed or Bernard King.

It was always the pacers.

And it was Jon Starks head-butting Reggie Miller.

It was Reggie Miller doing the choke sign.

It was Reggie killing us in big spots on Mother's Day.

So for it to be the Pacers and the Knicks.

Yeah, we did.

Oh, yeah, it was great moments.

For it to be the Pacers and the Knicks is how it should be.

And the fact that we were on the ropes, the fact that we were done, and the fact that it's Delon Wright and Landry Shamet and Deuce McBride finding guys off the bench who have not done much all playoff series, they find a way to use it.

Rick Carlichle has,

Rick Carlisle,

Carlisle,

no matter.

Has run circles around Tibbs the first two games and a half.

And then all of a sudden in the second half, it was like Tibbs was like wait we got the bench we can use the bench and there's life and I got to tell you as much as I love Indianapolis there does I mean I flew in I've been around I went to went to the coffee shop this morning there's a little bit of nervous energy oh shut up

a little bit there's a little two-year-old named Rocco here smiling ear to ear knows what the Pacers are about to do tonight but you're right it is a huge game four I mean we all know that especially because the way one two go we kind of steal one obviously not kind of definitely steal one And especially with Jim Ursa guiding that thing down with Tyrese, we thought it was over.

Choke sign, here we go.

That goes to overtime.

We're supposed to lose that game, especially with the choke sign happening.

Instead, we win it.

Okay.

Game two, dominate, we win again.

It's like we've got out of New York with two, should not be like that.

So for us to give up game three, I think it's

become the calling card of this Pacers team almost for this particular series.

But game four shrinks?

You know why there's no nerves around this city?

Rick Carlichael, you just called him.

He shooted out the boys.

The boys have had a rough two days from Rick Carlisle.

He's their friend.

He's not a friend of the boys on the team.

No,

he is a coach, coach.

And I'm excited to see what happens tonight.

Jalen Brunson, with the stats that I've seen, you guys should have on the bench for most of the game.

That's better for you as well.

Touchable.

So we need to do that.

And we're thankful you're here.

It's all the Knicks fans.

Thank you for coming out for our city.

Use some of that Coastal Elitist money at our restaurants.

Okay, we'd appreciate it.

Make sure you tip the servers.

Yeah.

Okay, tip the

scumbags.

Also, like, you know, I saw the guy in the full racing costume court side.

It was cool.

That was Joseph Newgarden.

Yeah.

It's a uniform.

Wore the whole thing.

For my man, Timothy Chalamet,

on a Memorial Day weekend.

To not be in the Hamptons, to not be in Montecito, to fly in to Indianapolis to support his team.

That is what a Knicks fan is all about.

He's the newspaper, right?

He's the real deal.

He's the new face of Knicks fans.

New face of Knicks fans.

He is there.

He is present.

And I would imagine that is what we all look at and say, okay, he didn't give up on us.

The Knicks didn't give up on us.

You got to understand.

Knicks fans, we haven't seen an NBA final since

look at that kid.

That's a bowling guy, right?

That looks like Pete Redmond.

Peter Kenmore.

Crab Harts and Oakley sunglasses.

That's the look.

White boy Summer, that's the look right there.

MGK dropped a banger.

Yeah, he did.

He's still praying for all of us.

Well, MGK,

MGK, you don't need to be worried about the people that are saying negative things.

Song of the Summer.

And he was doing cliche dance moves because the song's called cliché.

People don't get it.

I didn't like that he responded because now people are responding to his response.

MGK, you just keep doing your little dancing, bud.

Just keep doing your thing right to the top.

Hair looks sweet.

Shalamay's a dog.

Pretty cool.

He knows college ball.

I loved him when he was on with you guys.

His appearance on College Game Day was huge for all of us,

whenever the story is told.

The eyes that were watching that particular College Game Day that maybe don't watch each and every week might offer up opportunities for other people to do other things for the rest of their lives.

But the way he knew the game, the way he knew the show, the way he treated people, he's good.

He's the right one, I think, to be the next superstar.

And the fact that he is the Knicks' face at this point almost, it's great to have him in the city.

I assume he's coming tonight, right?

What if he doesn't come tonight?

Oh, no, no.

Oh, no.

No team down.

Oh, no.

Chalamé can't handle Indiana.

You want one time, too much heat, stay out of the kitchen.

You think that's what's happening?

I think it's going to be that, I would imagine.

Look, I assume he wouldn't be too.

Great to have you here, Tim.

Good luck on all your stuff.

Did he go to the race too?

Was he racing and pacing?

I think a lot of people were saying they were trying.

I saw a lot of Knicks fans at the race, actually, saying they were going to go.

And I was like, good luck if you can survive.

I think he probably just snuck by the pacers.

Sure.

Yeah, easily sent out Gaib.

He doesn't have time for that.

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are happening happening tonight against the New York Knicks.

We've had an incredible opportunity to get a chance to chit-chat with the people that have gathered here in this Bicentennial Plaza.

The city is alive.

The city is excited because the Indiana Pacers are for real.

They lost game three to the New York Knicks after having a 20-point lead, a 13-point lead, a 16-point lead, a 20-point lead.

And then inevitably, they end up losing and giving it away at home.

And tonight, the Pacers are going to put on a show.

If you are going to watch, what you're going to see is a passionate crowd, a passionate state, and a team that's trying to get their get-back against the New York Knicks, led by Jalen Brunson and Carl Anthony Towns.

Jalen Brunson, obviously an absolute beast.

He's Mr.

Clutch for good reason.

What he does at the end of games is insane.

But Carl Anthony Towns had his New York Knicks moment, seemingly in game three, where he took over in the fourth quarter.

20 points alone he had.

The entire Indiana Pacers, 20 points as well.

Cat took the game over in the fourth.

They have a massive comeback.

And now everybody from that big damn city, every coastal elitist who wears blue and orange, thinks to themselves that the Knicks are back in this thing.

The Knicks weren't supposed to beat the Celtics.

Now, the Knicks were supposed to get swept by the Pacers.

And after a win in game three, they got the entire city alive.

Joining us live here at Bicentennial Plaza is a man who's an Emmy Award-winning television host, an NFL insider, NFL pundit, and now an ESPN man.

Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schriker's here.

Schrag's isn't the only.

Yeah, a couple more Coastal guys arrived here during the break.

Oh, my God.

Very New York-looking guy.

He's going to scream it over to me.

He goes, come on, one time, vet.

Next thing six, you say, for the brand, for the brand, for the brand.

Never.

Need the Pacers to win for the brand.

Hell yeah.

Good for the program.

For the Pacers to do and play the way they are playing.

And we've been enjoying all of it.

We're lucky to be here.

Shout out to the Pacers allowing us to do this outside of Game Bridge today.

Nine-year NFL vet, a man who calls Indianapolis home, Darren St.

Butter.

Yes, sir.

The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

I see the dog shirt underneath that Boston Celtics jacket.

Is that because the Pacers are a bunch of absolute dogs?

Yeah, most of them.

Definitely TJ McConnell on there.

Shout out.

More so, you're talking about get-back games.

I think, you know, the people of Indianapolis in particular need to kind of step up because it was embarrassing.

Game three, game three was embarrassing.

I think anybody who was in there can agree.

I think everybody knows race day, racing, and pacing, sure, and the Indy 500 is awesome.

And everybody kind of blew their load at the race, and then they showed up, they showed up at a 500-mile load, exactly.

And you got to understand that that's going to be a big load.

But when you go to the playoffs, okay, the Indy 500 is cool, it's awesome.

The city's team is the Indianapolis Pacers.

So when that happens...

The Indiana Pacers.

Who cares?

But when that happens,

that is something where you need to kind of show the world, the people who are watching.

You want the NBA ratings to be better.

You want all that stuff.

You need to show, hey, in Indiana, we care about basketball.

Darius Butler said it in the first hour.

You know, it's the state of basketball.

Well, then show us.

Because the fans were snoozing in the second half, and everybody's blaming Carl.

Oh, shut up, Stratford.

Can I just add?

I was there in game two.

No, you can't add.

And it's a four-point game.

There's three seconds left.

The garden's still packed.

I'm watching as Josh Hart and Brunson are making these free throws.

A slow trickle of Pacers fans leaving the day.

That's weird, man.

What is that?

No, I understand.

I understand the cars were vrooming, and we had the vroom shirts.

They're not vrooming.

I'm getting.

This is, that's what they're doing.

You probably don't even have a car in New York.

Yeah, you don't have to drive.

Yeah, exactly.

You walk your ass home.

We walk your ass home.

Yeah, hey, let me step over the human feces.

Human feces.

And the rat poop.

Yes.

Yeah, okay, we get it.

And maybe the reason why you're sticking around is because everybody knows they won't go get on train with everybody else.

Yeah.

So maybe it's a part of lifestyle choices.

Around here, we got traffic, brother.

Uh-huh.

Okay?

We got traffic.

And if this one's over,

Memorial Day the next day, too.

So I don't want to.

And he's New York.

Knicks fans traveling out here.

I got massive respect for it.

Welcome to our city.

Thank you for coming.

We're not throwing trash bags at these people.

Love to have them here.

Let's go to

one half of the hammer.

Don, Cowboys, AP Tone.

What are we betting on tonight?

Who do we like?

How do we like it?

It's a big one.

You talk about game four and how big it is.

So Thunder were also up 2-1 going into game four.

They win game four.

They're now minus 6,000 to win that series.

So that's kind of how this goes.

If the Pacers win tonight, it's also going to be a similar situation where they're going to be huge favorites to then win the series.

But if the Knicks win, it's going to be very, very tight.

Pacers are minus 210 to win the series now.

If the Knicks win tonight, I assume it'll flip to them being favorites to win the series.

Pacers are our favorites tonight, minus 2.5 in this game.

Which means absolutely nothing.

No, it really doesn't.

2.5 points means nothing.

20 points has just been an appetizer in this particular series.

The favorite has lost every game.

I mean, Knicks were favorites at home.

Pacers have been favorite at home.

Favorites lost every game in the series so far, so they're looking to reverse that tonight.

I don't love that.

Yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns is minus 175 to say, oh, my God.

That's a real thing.

That's real.

Might be minus 250 at this point.

Okay, so we talked about the Western Conference last night.

Congrats to Oklahoma City getting back in a tight win.

They're up 3-1 over the Minnesota Timberwolves.

I love Ant didn't have his best game, but I love that he's potentially one of the faces of the league.

Final four teams, everybody's going to be great.

It's going to be tough.

Tonight's going to be insane.

8 o'clock on TNT tip-off here.

Grants, we have you here.

What the hell?

8 o'clock tip-off?

You liked that?

Yeah, I tried on the money, baby.

TNT, it's just everything you can really ask.

I did try to FaceTime Sir Charles.

I have his number.

I try not to abuse it.

I FaceTimed him here before the show.

No answer.

Okay.

Chuck.

We're going to try to get him, obviously, to come out here.

He might be golfing.

He's probably golfing up here.

There's chance.

He's golfing.

He's a beautiful day.

Yeah, he's probably golfing up there at

Chatterville's.

Nah, Crooked Stick.

Crooked Stick.

Purgatory.

From Hills, Purgatory.

That other place we went to that didn't have a line ever that was great.

Copperhead Road or something.

Popperhead Road.

Red Copper.

Yeah, Arrowhead.

Old Oakland.

Yeah, River Glenn.

River Glenn, but that's part of the copper

places.

And they're doing a thing.

All right.

Anyways, Shrakes, we got to talk NFL with you to go here.

What are we talking about?

OTAs today.

We've got 20 different teams opening up practice.

It's mostly voluntary.

Who wants to go and who doesn't?

But I see Mahomes.

He's ready to go.

You've got all these teams coming in.

The question of the day, of course, is when does Aaron Rodgers decide he's going to join the Pittsburgh Steelers?

It's been lingering, lingering, lingering.

As of right now, there's no deadline from them.

There's no deadline from him.

Mason Rudolph is the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so Mason Rudolph currently is the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Here in Indianapolis, we have a quarterback competition happening between number four overall pick Anthony Richardson, who's been here for a couple years, has been injured.

Obviously, he's had some great moments, had some moments about trying to learn to become an NFL quarterback.

And then Danny Dimes, who obviously had his entire situation in New York.

I think that's a nice tie for New York and Indianapolis.

We currently have Danny Dimes potentially as our quarterback.

We have boots on the ground ground here in Indianapolis.

We have sources

that have told us that Danny Dimes enjoyed his first Indy 500 race day.

Is that right?

Yeah, we have been told that Daniel Jones has tried to become one with the city of Indianapolis on Sunday, and we assume it's just the beginning.

We have heard that he was potentially out in an establishment having a great time with the people, enjoying the celebration of the greatest spectacle in racing happening in the Indy 500.

Danny Dimes is a weapon, from what I've been told.

Off the field and obviously we've seen some good times on the field with you guys.

New York, New Jersey, what is the take on Daniel Jones?

They were done with him and that's fine.

He got them to a playoff game.

He won a playoff game in Minnesota.

It is a forgettable era of Giants history.

I'm wearing my Saquon still here.

These are the Saquon shoes.

Saquon and Daniel Jones were supposed to be the guys.

The Giants have moved on.

They've already ripped that up and changed, but make no mistake about it.

Make no mistake about it.

Daniel Jones can still play good football.

Daniel Jones, one of the toughest quarterbacks that the New York Giants have seen.

And Daniel Jones is

10, 20, 30 beer a day.

Yeah.

Okay.

We're hearing maybe he put some numbers up on 85 quarters.

And I want to let you know that

has solidified me.

You're Daniel Jones.

Yeah, I love that Daniel Jones is here.

I like that he's here.

I'll tell you this.

He was never a big, like...

going out in the clubs in Manhattan guy.

However, there was a Zach Bryan show at MetLife probably a year ago, and all of a sudden you're looking on stage, and there's Daniel Jones knowing every word, getting the credit, and a lot of Giants fans are like, good, there's some license.

That's better than Indian kids.

He's supposed to be in Indiana.

That sounds good.

Yeah, we did it.

I've seen him do flip cup right with Eli.

Oh, yeah.

That was a good flip cup with Eli.

So Anthony Richardson, obviously, immense talent.

I mean, it is the upside, he's through the roof.

Hopefully, he's able to reach it this training camp.

Hopefully, he's able to accomplish what we drafted him number four overall to accomplish.

But if not, D.

Butt, we got good news coming out of the lunar

news.

I love

the guy.

I love the positive, positive.

I heard Cheryl.

You're going to hear the battle.

I love the positive.

And he's here.

He is a cult.

These are rumors.

I remember watching Daniel Jones play a lot of football in New York.

Great football.

You know, watching on TV, watched y'all 22.

I'm hopeful as well.

We drafted a guy number four overall a couple years ago.

Okay.

That's the guy I want to figure it out and be the face of our franchise.

10 to 15.

Okay.

It is a battle.

Forget about it.

Forget about the guy.

He's got a lot of opportunity.

Plenty, plenty.

Samuel Jones was six overall.

Danny Dimes, look, Danny Dimes was out at the tin whistle, baby.

And when I say the tin whistle, everyone knows I'm talking about the tin roof, one of the nicest bars in the country.

And he wasn't just there, okay?

He was bringing it down.

He's mixing it up, brother.

He was mixing it up.

He was buying shots for people.

He was buying cotton tails.

Hey, he's in the middle of this live music, singing a

band.

He was in there.

Rumor has it.

He almost grabbed the mic

to sing a couple songs, Deeput.

So, hey, look, I love AR.

AR, but there's been a couple guys that have frequented some of these places.

The Raskiller, Tin Whistle.

And you know what happens to those guys?

Superstard.

All-pro, okay?

You want to list a couple all-pros for the Colts that we've seen kind of roaming the streets?

They're great players.

Quentin Nelson, I've seen him sitting on a bench, you know, hanging out with the people, drinking booze cocktails.

Danny Dimes looks like he's going to be the all-pro of the AFC this year.

So if I'm the first one.

There's a chance.

Listen.

I was surprised.

I was so surprised.

Walk in.

Hey, did you hear the news?

That was the news.

What was the news?

Danny Dimes was doing it on Sunday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And he wasn't Jones.

Danny Dimes has a presence like Tom Cruise.

Yeah.

Big Winchester.

Which does not come like this.

There were two winners Sunday, too.

I can't believe I just heard that come.

I can't believe I said it, but I saw the proofs in the pudding.

I saw what I saw.

And listen, everyone wants to say AR, Danny Dimes.

Can you imagine AR lining up a tight end and Danny Dimes just ripping one piece?

They're not changing positions anymore.

Hey, I'm just saying, Chris.

Do you remember the Heisenberg package?

Basically the same thing.

Unless you say, dude, Danny Dimes wasn't taking no shit.

I'll tell you that much.

If you want to step to Danny Dimes, he's ready to talk about it.

How about Daniel Jones being out and about in Indianapolis on race weekend?

It is very much like a welcome to the city.

I'm excited to watch our quarterback competition.

I like hearing that he's super tough because maybe that'll radiate through the rest of the locker room.

Made a lot of moves on the defensive side of the ball this offseason.

Oh, yeah.

Feels like the Colts are on the up and up.

They got to follow the pace of the Pacers in the city and the fever, who we've obviously discussed.

Caitlin Clark will be out two weeks.

Let's talk about some other news that happened just yesterday.

The reason why we're off is because there was a national championship happening on ESPN.

And congratulations to Cornell.

Yeah.

I know somebody who went to Cornell.

Oh, yeah.

Big red.

I know where Cornell is.

Quick, what state?

New York, I believe.

Yeah, both.

Is that right?

Ithaca, New York.

There you go.

Of course.

We're really, we know everything about the Ivy League.

Massive respect for the Ivy League.

Big brains.

I've heard some of the classes are past fail, so

just got to be kind of

coverage.

I've heard Cornell, very bad things about Cornell academically.

Not in the sense where it's past fail, in the sense where, like, hey, you got to basically stay up all night and day to study for Cornell.

Oh, so you said I heard bad things, but it's actually like got to actually.

Good things, yeah, good things, but bad for people who want to have fun.

Old buddy for Cornell is the guy, and I didn't know there was another royal family of lacrosse.

Yeah, the Kirst cursed family.

CJ Kirst, I believe he had six goals.

He tied the single season record 82 goals this season in 17, 18 games.

It's pretty ridiculous.

Yesterday was incredible.

The Maryland team and the Cornell team battled it out.

It was closed for a little bit and then CJ Kirst, I think he had four straight unassisted goals.

The kid just went bananas.

I think he had six or seven goals on the day and they win their first title since 1977.

Really cool story with the Kirst family.

Most of his brothers, one of his brothers actually is a Boston Cannon legend.

Yeah, he is one of the players that's going to carry the torch this year.

CJ Kurtz, though, he's the first pick in the PLL draft this year.

They're saying he already is going to be one of the best players in the PLL when he gets to his training camp probably next week.

Look at that packed-out stadium.

Bro, Foxborough, that's Gillette.

That's Gillette.

Packed it out.

Did it in Foxborough.

It was incredible.

They haven't really done it in Foxborough in a little bit, I believe.

They used to all the time.

But yeah, it was a fantastic scene there.

And riddle me this, the Ivy League winning again is a big deal in the lacrosse conversation.

Yeah, big deal.

It kind of stinks, you know, for all those people that were kind of Team Kavanaugh.

Pat Kavanaugh came on last year, a couple years ago, said, hey, look, the Ivy Leagues are a bunch of frauds, which they have been.

That's why Cornell winning was a massive deal.

They are a great story.

Who'd they beat in the finals?

They beat Maryland.

Where's Maryland at?

It's in the Big Ten.

Oh, so it's a Big Ten Ivy League sport now?

No.

ACC's dead?

No, because Notre Dame is ACC.

So if anything, the Big Ten is dead.

Because they haven't won it in a few years here and now with the ACC and Ivy League now doing the last three years.

Does this go against, because I know you've been talking, especially when AJ was on, about kind of one of these Big Ten teams potentially growing the game and that'd be

good for the game as a whole.

How do you feel about that now?

With Cornell winning the first one since 77?

Yeah, I don't know if it's as big of a deal because it's with C.J.

Kirst and C.J.

Kirst is the guy in college lacrosse this year.

He's winning the

tournament.

He's the balloon Dale Lacrosse.

He is also also known by that.

Yeah, yeah, which it makes sense.

What's it really called?

The Twilight, what's the Tuaraton.

Kavanaugh won it last.

Yeah, the bigger stars, like, this makes C.J.

Kirsten even bigger star.

So when you're talking about locations and areas, like Ohio State won in and making Ohio bigger in lacrosse, that's a big deal.

But also just having a true face, which Maryland, to be honest, didn't really have.

Maryland would have been the worst case, winning as far as growing the game because Maryland's very big in lacrosse already.

Very established already.

Their coach, that would have been his third title.

They don't have an 80-you know, goal scorer like CJ Kirst is.

Him winning was a massive deal.

Cornell being back on the map was a massive deal, and it turns out we might be NLL guests.

Yeah, that's exactly my point.

The Buffalo Bandits have won another NLL title, and Chase Frazier has put up another highlight reel.

And we actually got a shout-out, shout-out to the NLL.

Run this thing, Foxy.

Couldn't handle the interior feed.

Now he'll catch it.

He just doesn't care.

One-handed behind the back.

Call Pat McAfee.

Get this guy on the show.

Absolutely speechless.

I would love to have Chase for Adriano on the program.

This guy's an absolute monster.

I love how Canadian the commentator sounded right there.

And thanks for the shout-out.

We are massive fans of this guy.

Just like I say in our sport, if you have enough comfort to do the pizzazz

alongside of it, especially in the championship, I believe this was.

So for him to have the softs and the Moxie to do that consecutively, seemingly every single game, we're big Chase Fraziers guys.

And

whenever you think about the NLL, which I definitely knew existed.

Oh, yeah, sure.

That's what I've been saying this whole time.

Yeah, for sure.

You knew that it was founded in 1986.

It's been around for a long time.

Yeah, and I knew it was box lacrosse, which is certainly a more Canadian style of lacrosse than what the PLL is running.

You were shocked when, you know, remember the Avalanche and all Cronky's teams, his NLL team, they all won those titles like back-to-back to back-to-back.

I was so pumped up about that whenever it happened.

I'm like, the NLL is the real deal.

And then once I started looking into it a little bit more, the NLL is much more exciting than any of the other stuff that I've been watching in the lacrosse world.

Is the Kavanaugh brother in the NLL now?

Yes, Patty Kavanaugh is playing for the San Diego SEALs.

Very fortunate.

Boom.

Makes it even easier.

That's my league.

The NLL is the league.

They are exciting.

They'll fight.

Oh, yeah.

They will just, they will drop them and fight each other.

Highlight goals every single game.

Yeah, and this is going to be more the style of what the Olympics are going to be, right?

Yeah, it's going to be a smaller field.

I believe it's still outside.

I don't think it's going to be an indoor arena like this, but it will be like a six-on-six with actual lacrosse goalie, but not the hockey pack goalie, but still very similar style.

We did learn that Chase Razor is Canadian.

Unfortunately, but that's okay.

It's not his fault.

He should play for America, though.

He should.

He's a Buffalo bandit.

He is.

He should play for the United States.

Just like Lou Messi needs to be a United States of America player.

Exactly.

Sidney Crosby needs to be playing for the United United States of America.

Let's go back to the truck, actually.

Let's go to the other half of the hammer.

Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino.

Hey, I heard a hockey tournament ended this weekend.

Who won that one?

USA won it for the first time since 1933.

Yay!

What?

33

back.

USA!

USA!

USA!

USA!

USA!

USA!

This is the one Sid was playing in?

Yes.

And McKinnon was playing in?

Sid lost?

Was Canada in the final?

No, they got knocked out early on.

Oh, Sweden beat him or something like that.

Denmark, even worse.

Oh, it was Denmark.

It was plus 3,000 or something.

Is that a Taj Tall?

Who's this right here?

Taj Tallins.

He's a Buffalo Saber.

He's a dominant player.

Yeah, USA wins this thing.

Obviously, Borghetto there had no idea.

He played tough, though.

He played tough.

I mean, they all played tough.

It's hockey.

You're going to play tough.

But the United States takes home the International Super Duper Cup for the first time in a long time.

And, Gumpy, does that mean we're in the driver's seat to win the next Olympics?

And

Sid and the boys should try to be playing for the United States of America?

If you win 25 more of these, you'll be tied with Canada.

Oh.

Yeah, but.

Who has the tie?

When he wins the next one.

Who won the last one?

That's all that matters.

Who's U.S.'s goalie going to be?

Hey,

we're going to have Otter, I assume.

Can you get a shot up there of that?

Hey, Scott, we need you to shoot that metal sphere over there.

Oh, it's better than the episode.

Can you zoom in on that thing?

Look at the inside.

I think they got our logo on the inside of that thing.

Oh, I do see it.

Oh, yeah.

It's fire.

Dude, that is sick.

That's sick.

Shout out to the Pacers.

Hey, thank you, Pacers, for doing this.

It's the details.

It's the little things.

I heard Algi wanted that, turned that thing on.

Yeah, yeah, Algi and grooves who were up all night kind of getting that done.

Algie's got a new hairdo.

I see he's kind of rocking it.

Algie, one of the security guys for a Gainbridge Fieldhouse.

He really locks it down.

He came back from that direction.

That popped up on there.

I assume he went there, flexed, turned it on, did the whole thing.

Yeah, he gets it done.

I mean, we saw him tracking down that guy who was trying to steal cars.

Tackled that son of a bitch.

Damn, he got an award.

I mean, it's real security around here.

Yeah, now he's growing his hair trying to go undercover.

The guy might be a Navy SEAL coming up.

Who knows?

Let's continue to talk about other sports that we don't get to talk about enough.

Let's stay in hockey.

What's going on with the Panthers, brother?

Hurricanes win 3-zip.

They're down 3-1.

You think the Cats are going to be able to handle this?

And what has the series been?

Just Panthers beating the shit out of the Canes until last night?

Beating the absolute shit out of them.

I got a chance to go Saturday on my pop's birthday to win a 6'2 ass whooping.

But yeah, we kind of let off the gas.

I don't know exactly what happened.

I was on a flight last night, had some spotty service, landed, saw your message first, then saw the 3-0 loss.

So that's definitely unfortunate.

Finally, the Canes get a win.

I think what they're 1-15 there last conference finals game.

So the streak is finally over for the Canes.

But I think we'll get it done in Carolina.

We'll close it out.

Gentlemen sweep, and then we'll have some nice time off before the Stanley Cup championship.

Maybe.

Shrank, do you follow hockey at all?

I do.

I'm a New York Rangers fan.

It didn't go well for us this year.

You guys beat their ass last year.

You guys beat our ass in the conference finals last year, and I went to a couple of those games.

So, yeah, like the hockey, but you know, right now, every time you guys are talking, I'm just thinking Knicks and NBA.

Okay, well, speaking of Knicks in the NBA, Shraigs, we're going to ask you to get up for a moment, and we're going to welcome in a New York firefighter.

Hell yeah.

A man who protects and serves his community.

And in doing so, he loves the team from the state of Indiana.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who received a nice flight.

I heard it was first class.

Okay, first class.

A man who's staying in a suite, I do believe, in one of the hotels around town.

A man who's being treated the way he should be treated in the city in which he serves.

But instead, in the city in which he comes from, he had bags of trash thrown at his back.

He was attacked on the streets.

He was caught a bum.

He was ridiculed and mocked

maybe even mobbed by a group of New Yorkers.

Jeez.

That represent the entire city, everybody in it.

That group right there.

That's right.

Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's going to bring great aura into the arena tonight.

A man who knows the sweet science.

Ladies and gentlemen, alongside Boomer.

Boomer.

Hans Perez, ladies and gentlemen.

Hans, great to see you, dude.

Hell yeah, Hodge.

See, Bruce push him.

Yeah, sorry.

Sir, it's an honor.

I appreciate you, man.

Thank you.

Welcome to the city, man.

Thank you, thank you.

Thanks for having me.

No problem.

We're going to get your mic on when we do.

It is in.

Hey, thank you for coming out to the city.

How's it been, brother?

Speaking of, you got to speak to the mic.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

It's okay.

Yeah, it's been awesome.

As soon as I got out the gate at the airport, I got five service guys waiting for me.

You know,

the whole airport was there taking pictures of me.

I pull up to the hotel.

I got the pacemates.

I got Boomer there with me.

Waiting for me.

Oh, you're having a time?

Oh, man.

This is nothing.

I got already getting

souvenirs.

Got Nap Town Fire.

So this is awesome.

This is great.

Okay, well, we're lucky you're in our city.

We're thankful that you came.

Has it all been smooth?

Did he fly you first class?

Did you get a good hotel room?

Are your tickets tonight good enough?

Is there anything we need to hammer Tyrese Halliburton about?

Tyrese did great.

Tyrese did awesome.

Yeah, he laid out the red carpet for me.

This is great.

Well, I think because you're here, that's why they're letting Tyrese's dad back in the building as well.

What are you expecting from tonight's game, Hans?

Oh, tonight, we're going up 3-1.

The Pacers are getting the job done tonight.

Knicks are in trouble.

Knicks are going down.

Tonight was supposed to be the sweep.

You know, I thought Tyrese brought me here because he knew it was going to be a sweep, but greater power

had something involved with that.

Who knows?

But tonight is 3-1.

We're going back to New York to cut it out, close this thing out, and resounded victory tonight.

What has life been like for you back in New York now that everybody knows you're a Pacers fan in New York?

I think like probably your friends, obviously that mob knew because you're wearing the jersey, but now it feels like everybody knows that you're a Pacers fan that lives in New York.

What has life been like for the last week or so?

Oh man,

I've been getting my like getting my chops bust all my life for being a Pacers fan for my friends and growing up and family, but now like the whole fire department knows I'm a Pacers fan.

My daughter's baseball, softball game, I'm going to the softball game.

I got all the parents coming up to me like, oh my God.

Celebrity.

Celebrity.

You're getting your balls busted for being a celebrity, too.

I assume your fire department is obviously mocking you for the amount of attention you're getting from all this or no?

Slightly, slightly, a little bit, a little bit.

Oh, I think you've been handling it very well.

I think it's been a great story this entire series.

And I think I've seen a lot of New York people back you too and say like, hey, that's not how we would act.

I assume you've gotten a lot of that from them as well.

Yeah, no, a lot.

I've been getting a lot of that, even from Knicks fans, telling me, like, that's not right, that's not cool, that's not how you treat people, like, regardless, who you support, you know.

But yeah, they just,

showing support, though.

They're loving me.

They're giving me a lot of credit for holding it down, taking it easy, and they're telling me that that wasn't right.

Yeah, being a fan is a good thing.

Being a sports fan is a good thing.

Being in New York City, being a Pacer fan during this era is a wild decision, we will say.

As we saw the video, we all thought it was wild.

Now we're thankful that you're getting a chance to experience it.

Keep staying on business for the Pacers, all right?

Connor has a question for you, Hans.

Yeah, so Hans, when you're watching these games, are you worried at all about the next round?

Are you thinking about the NBA championship?

Have you kind of parlayed this into like, hey, Tyrese, if we win game four,

I'm going to have to be here for game six.

I'm probably going to have to be here for game one of the NBA Finals, to be honest.

You know, I wouldn't want to ask him to talk about game six because I don't think it's going that far, you know?

We're not going to see a game six this year.

It's not going to happen.

So maybe we can talk about the finals, but no, I've been, paces are going all the way.

If it looks OKC of Minnesota, this team is destined.

This is a hell of a team right here.

To come back against Milwaukee, to come back against Cleveland, the first game one comeback against the Knicks.

Like, this team is...

Yeah, but what about being up 20 and losing?

Hey, hey, hey.

The Knicks, the Knicks.

I don't like it either.

I don't like it neither.

I don't like it neither, you know?

But I don't, stuff happens.

Stuff happens.

Where were you when you were watching that game?

What was the roller coaster of emotion up 20 and then when they come back and it went?

Game three, I watched it in the firehouse.

I was in the firehouse with the guys watching it.

Oh, that's dope.

Yeah, so you were the only Pacers fan in there, I assume?

The only Pacers fan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so.

Yeah, they got you.

They were getting on me the game.

But they were sad the first half.

First half,

I was trying to keep my, like, not cheer too much, not be too happy in front of their faces.

But, yeah,

it was rough dealing with that.

I had to go downstairs and watch on the TV by myself doing the come back because it was too much here.

Yeah, that's going to continue.

I couldn't even fathom if the Knicks come back and win this series.

They won't.

Not a chance.

Not a chance.

Got a lot of Knicks and six texts happening from every New York Knicks person, and obviously they're all.

Oh, here they go.

You got to find a middle finger on the New York Knicks guy.

Yeah, I appreciate everything about it.

Hans,

have you had any of the local establishments?

Have you had any of our local meat?

How has the day been here?

Have you seen the city at all?

So far from the airport to here.

Oh, you just got here?

I just got here.

Oh, bonnie.

Go explore.

Local meat.

I can't wait to talk to you.

Yeah, the local steaks here are the best.

That's what we're known for.

You need to go to a couple steakhouses.

I'm down to try some of the local meat.

Yeah, try some of the local meat.

Eat all the local meat that you can.

Big pause, big pause.

Tip afterwards.

Loving street meat.

I don't know if the street meat here is the best, but you've got to like St.

Elmo's Harry Nizzy's Prime 47.

A little classier, a little classier, not street meat.

Yeah, they would love to have you.

We're in Indiana.

We're going to do a classic.

Yeah, well, we're very appreciative of you being here.

Enjoy the night.

Thank you for stopping by.

And let's win one tonight, huh?

Yes, sir.

Big one.

Big game.

Hans Perez.

Yeah, yeah.

Take care, guys.

Thank you for everything.

Enjoy yourself, man.

Yep.

Good luck, dude.

Go get them.

What's that?

Is this your.

That's gifts that I brought for you guys.

Okay.

Oh,

geez.

I did not know that.

I know you love a tank top.

Hell yeah, the gas house gang.

Oh, that's what I'm talking about.

Boom.

Thanks for the gas house.

Engine 206.

What up, crew?

Gas house gang.

Boy, something for the doze.

Hey, there we go.

Hey, I love that, Hans.

And I appreciate the gas house gang.

gang.

Yeah, that's awesome.

Yeah, JG representing.

Hey, care, guys.

Thank you.

Hans, thank you for being the epitome of a fan, dude.

That was a real deal.

If you ever want to transfer to a different firehouse to a city that respects you.

Yeah, I wonder how that works.

Can you just kind of say I'm going to be an Indianapolis firefighter?

I think if you're a New York firefighter, you could pretty much transfer every one to the fire.

John said it is going to be a crazy offseason, man.

He said it's going to be the wildest offseason.

Most craziest offspring seems to be easy.

Yeah, most craziest offseason ever.

Most craziest offseason.

Hans is getting traded for four first-round picks.

I I mean, there is a chance that that happens.

There's a chance that Hans just becomes an Indianapolis native.

It happened with Geo.

Yeah,

Podcaster?

Gio lives in Indy?

Gio lives in India.

I think he's going to a temple.

He's going to temple.

He followed Corse and went.

No, his dad got a job out here.

Of course, didn't have to come out here at the same time.

They obviously had their connection.

Now Gio's going back to Philadelphia, but this city will captivate you.

Oh, yeah.

A lot of guys that play here stay here.

Obviously, a great place to raise your family.

Obviously, a great place to live.

A lot of things to do.

Small town feel.

The weather,

I will say.

Comes and goes.

It's a hit or miss.

We're now terrible.

It's nice now.

Pretty solid.

Yeah,

we got the great, the great part of it here for a little bit, and then it'll get shitty, you know, in about two months.

And people are going to be able to do that.

No, no, no, three, three, three and a half months.

If we're lucky.

Four.

It's about to be amazing here in Indianapolis.

This weather is perfect right now, to be clear.

Sun's not too crazy.

The weather's not too hot, not too cold.

There is a little breeze just in case you start sweating.

Go ahead, and Mother Nature just says, go ahead and cool down a little bit.

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Joining us back again, ladies and gentlemen, New York Knicks fan, Peter Schrager.

That's been Schrags.

Him and Bruce have been bopping each other all day.

Both rock and kids, too.

Good contingent.

There's a Knicks contingency kind of gathering over here.

I like their accents.

I can hear it through their yells.

I also appreciate that

one of the guys is literally using his middle finger to use the one.

You know, he's going...

This is

that.

That's the most New York thing of all time.

Staten Island.

I can see Staten Island from a mile away.

Oh, that's Staten Island.

That is so Staten Island.

Four-arm tat right there, Staten Island?

Love it.

What is Staten Island?

That's the Poopy Islands.

Long Island is a little bit more.

Isn't that where Lady Liberty is?

Is it Lady Liberty on Staten Island?

Ellis.

Staten Island's where

Pete Davis is

Colin Jost, the Staten Island guy.

Oh, yeah, he bought the ferry, right?

He did.

Bought the Staten Island ferry.

Yeah.

So hold on.

That's the boroughs.

That's all the boroughs.

There's five boroughs.

And you've got Queens, Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn.

And then you've got Staten Island, which is connected by the Verrazano, connects Brooklyn and Staten Island.

So Staten Island's represented here.

I believe Wu-Tang also from Staten Island.

Shaolin.

What part of Pittsburgh is Nick from?

He's not the poopy side of Plum, right?

Yeah, he is from the poopy side.

That's Staten Island in New York.

Okay.

Regency.

Regency is what we're talking about.

The Rangers Regency is the one that's been in the middle of P.

For Indianapolis.

The west side.

Beautiful.

I do.

If we're actually going to do the same thing.

Staten Island takes a lot of crap.

But they are proud people right there, and I like that, and I respect that.

No, they actually take a lot of crap, though, right?

Isn't that kind of the thing?

It's it's because it's where the

hey, we appreciate you, Staten Islanders, come out here today.

Hey, you need a gritty, gritty bunch.

Let's talk about some baseball that's happening around the MLB.

The biggest superstars are playing their best ball.

Aaron Judge still hitting baseballs?

Yeah, big time.

Aaron Judge might end up with an over 400 batting average, which would be the first time since

Ted Williams in the year 1930.

Yeah, 1930 something.

Before he went to the war.

He's one of the biggest stars in baseball.

He's playing fantastic.

Paul Skeens is still kind of stuck in Pittsburgh.

We'll continue to monitor that situation.

Yeah, they don't give up a lot of runs.

They just can't score, so they lose all the time, seemingly, in Pittsburgh.

But out in L.A., they have a global phenomenon.

His name's Shohei Atani.

Shohei Otani, not only great with the stick, but he's back pitching.

Ty, we're going to see this guy pitching this year.

This will be first time, long time.

Yeah, maybe.

I mean, it's kind of the same thing.

Jet Passeng because I asked him last time he was on the show, hey, I mean, are we going to see Shohei throw anytime soon?

And he basically shut it down immediately and said no, but he's throwing live BP, so that's another big step.

That means he's off the mound, throwing as hard as he can, probably touching triple digits.

Shohei wants to pitch, and I think Shohei has kind of earned the right, especially within the Dodgers organization.

He can do whatever the hell he wants to do.

So as long as he lets them know that he feels good and the Dodgers' pitching staff is a little banged up, I think there's a chance we see him.

My guess would be it probably wouldn't be until after the all-star break, though.

Triggs, Shohei Otani, global superstar, maybe the best player playing too, outside of Aaron Judge, who's hitting you phenomenally.

But if he is to pitch well and hit well, you're talking about stuff that's never been done, and he's the most famous guy in the world.

That'd be great for the MLB that has been looking for something, maybe to stratus, you know, kind of put itself back in the stratosphere of other sports.

Yeah, look, the Mets and Dodgers played this past weekend in New York, and it was a big deal.

Are you a Mets guy or a Yankees guy?

I'm a Yankees guy myself.

Hell yeah, sure.

Sorry to the Mets fans.

But when they're in town, and I went to the World Series in the playoffs last year, this guy is the biggest star in the game.

How do you market it even more?

He's got a huge personality when he's doing all that stuff.

It's international.

And I think if I'm going to bring it back to football.

Travis Hunter has the ability to do maybe this wide receiver cornerback thing, which would be breaking ground.

Maybe he has a chance to maybe be the Otani of football and that, hey, we can go and do it in a different way than it's been done traditionally for all these years.

Okay, let's talk about that.

I've seen videos of Travis Hunter.

I believe he got married.

Congratulations.

Forever's a long time.

Obviously, big decision.

I am a happily married man, as are a lot of people on this stage.

So congrats to Travis Hunter.

I saw him going into a kid's front yard, I think, to World School.

Down there,

everything that everybody says about him is all good things.

Guys, football IQ is through the roof.

He's a joy to be around.

He loves ball.

He doesn't like doing anything else.

Travis Hunter, obviously, a lot of expectations being drafted that high.

He has talked about being a complete football player.

He wouldn't feel as if he's doing the game justice if he didn't play on offense and on defense.

Then in one of the rookie OTAs, he didn't take any snaps at DB.

He only took routes.

What is the conversation happening down there in Duval

with Travis Hunter?

Because this is the AFC South, brother.

And Travis Hunter, I don't know if he wants to come into this Lucas Or Lighthouse and deal with both sides of the ball, but it sounds like this is actually going to happen.

And how does Jacksonville feel about it?

I think the intention is he's going to get an opportunity this summer to do both and we'll see how it goes.

The truth of the matter is they took such a big swing in trading up and giving up next year's first round pick and giving all these other future picks to get him.

They're going to maximize this.

I like Jacksonville's approach to this whole entire new regime in that 39-year-old head coach, 34-year-old GM, Grant Udinsky, the offensive coordinator, 29 years old,

and their defensive coordinator, Campanelli, who might be Staten Island-based, Anthony Campanille, might be from Staten Island.

I'm not sure.

He's a New York Stroll guy, 42 years old.

So they're like, we're going young.

We're taking a big swing.

We're tired of the retread stuff.

And I appreciate the fact they went for it in the draft.

And then you saw Gladstone's press afterwards.

Talks like he's from out of space, and it's a different kind of generation how he talks.

You've known Stoner for a while, I assume, because he comes through the McVay camp out there in Los Angeles.

Sean McVay came on the program after he was hired, and we looked at a picture of Stoner, and we're like, they hired a 12-year-old.

They hired an actual 12-year-old down there in Jacksonville.

And then McVay comes on and he goes, take it easy on my man Stoner.

He loves the game, sees the game the same way I do.

So if you have that young of people in so many pillar positions, I assume it's all long-term thinking down there because they still got to build a stadium.

I mean, this is not an easy couple years for Jacksonville going forward.

Look, they've got the quarterback signed, but we're waiting for him to take that leap.

And as we talk Jaguars football, everyone already is like,

they want to be interesting.

They don't want to be the 32nd team in the league.

They don't want to be the team that all the networks are like, you give us a Jaguars game?

What are we doing?

They want to be a team that's relevant,

but also a team that can play in an interesting brand of football.

Last year's draft, this kid right here, Brian Thomas, was as good as any other rookie wide receiver.

That includes neighbors, that includes Harrison, it includes a Dunze.

They've got a feeling they've got some stuff there.

And then Stoner and Liam Cohen come from that youthful Rams organization.

So

Liam figured out the whole...

I don't know about the Duval thing, man.

I I don't get it.

I don't

change it for him.

If they start winning and like you mentioned they figure out Trevor Lawrence and they get him playing top level.

You talked about Travis Hunter him having Brian Thomas Jr.

on the other side is

huge for him and his potential to grow and be a so raw.

Travis feels like a home run.

Human because

like everything we've heard out of him

so raw at wide receiver though and the fact that like he hasn't been coached as a wide receiver in that way where a lot of the stuff he did at Colorado was all natural, big hands, I'll go after the catch, I'll do it.

Now he's going to be treated as a wide receiver and given that NFL coaching and the ability to elevate the game even more.

Because you got to be in a spot.

So the difference between NFL and college.

College is an area.

NFL is like a spot.

And if you're not at said spot, guys like Darius J.

Butler will beat you to that spot and it's a pick going the other way.

And Trevor Lawrence needs to have a great year.

So he needs to have a lot of trust in you.

So like I see a lot of people on the internet judging Travis Hunter's routes.

His hands are down.

He's giving away.

All those things are accurate.

All those things are real take.

It's all new.

But also it's something he can learn, I think, with how athletic he is.

I think these are techniques and fundamentals that he can learn and work on and sell.

And I think that means his upside is still very, very, very, very much ahead of where he is now.

So good luck to him.

But he's got a problem in the AFC South with the Indianapolis Colts.

We joked about it earlier with Danny Dimes introducing himself to the city, and the city introducing itself to Danny Dimes this weekend.

I love that.

Quarterback competition at the top.

What have you heard from the quarterback competition?

And what does that mean, quarterback competition they're splitting ones reps yeah they're splitting like time in meeting rooms yeah how does that work I don't know it's going to be pure it's going to be a wide open competition between the two and Chris Ballard could have just passed on this and said you know what we drafted Anthony Richardson fourth overall my name's on that no no they went and they brought him real competition and I could tell you Minnesota was very interested in bringing Daniel Jones back and he chose to be an Indianapolis Colt he looked at this situation and said, I can win that job and I can revitalize that franchise.

So he's not coming here to be the backup and Richardson isn't willing to just give it to him.

So very rarely in the NFL these days do you get two young quarterbacks fighting for their careers.

You have that in Indianapolis and I think that's good for both of them.

I think so too.

Cannot wait to see them battle.

I think that's tough for a team though.

I think the locker room is going to know who's winning that battle a lot

earlier than everybody else.

And I don't know how you don't have biases.

Not that our show has any biases.

Obviously, we are

right down the middle.

Every time.

Just like this Eastern Conference finals.

That's why we brought in the coach.

Jeff Dennis right here.

Okay, we checked the box here for that entire thing.

But the locker room is not going to be like that.

I'll be intrigued to see how it all gets managed.

That's a lot of effort out of Shane Steichen.

Now, let's go to Green Bay.

Ty, go ahead.

Yeah, Shraigs, what's the latest with Jair Alexander?

Saw it came out that they offered him kind of a

different contract, or they're trying to work on it, but the sides are still a ways away.

Obviously, the last couple times you've been on, I asked because you had dinner with Matt LaFleur the night before the NFL draft or two nights before.

What can you tell us about this situation?

Is this close to getting done?

Because the Packers still need Jair Alexander.

I think this comes a lot differently than what you were reading leading into the draft that he was supposed to be trade at draft week.

I came on this show and I said I'm a lot higher on them getting this thing settled because I knew Matt and Jeff Hafley in addition to Matt both wanted to keep Jair in the fold and consider him a team leader and a chance to get it done.

This contract situation, as Schneiderman is reporting, seems like it's at least being

a conversation.

But he said he's going to be in a mandatory camp either way.

So to me, we are light years ahead in this relationship as opposed to where we were, the perception was going into the draft.

So I'm confident that both sides want to get it done.

That's just got to be sensible how to make it happen.

Packers fans want it done, right?

Yeah, they need him.

When he's healthy, he's one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL.

He just hasn't been healthy the last several years.

And they kind of did.

I don't want to say cleaned house, but like

you look at their depth chart, they don't have a lot of guys who have started a lot of games in the NFL cornerback.

They obviously went out and got Hobbs from Vegas this offseason.

But when he is elite, I mean me and D-Bun have talked about this.

He's an all-pro cornerback.

They need him.

Absolute game changer when he's out there healthy.

And you mentioned Jeff Hafley, like his defense, the leap that they took, even with him not being out there full-time being healthy, bringing in over former Giant safety Xavier McKinney, who was dynamic all-pro as well.

He is a big cornerstone piece who could potentially, he has another big time year next year.

He's one of those guys to get another big deal if he can stay stay on that feeling.

Still,

he's a dynamic playmaker, and from everything that I've heard, the guys in the locker room like him.

Yeah, one of the greatest things, stories we've ever heard still.

Yeah.

Is him just naming himself captain.

That's the greatest.

Carolina.

That is the absolute thing.

He forgot.

I couldn't even imagine LaFlore had to be so pissed.

How did La Floor not know?

He's from Charlotte.

Yeah, it's on the floor.

It's certainly on the floor for not naming him captain.

I mean, but from that moment until what you said, it's like the relationship is obviously, I assume LaFleur learned a lot about who Jair is there in that entire moment.

And you know, sometimes there's frustrations that have to come to a head for people to develop their relationship the most.

Feels like they like him.

He likes them.

He'd be great for them.

Hopefully they're able to get a deal done.

He is a great personality.

Yes.

He is great for the league.

I would like him to do more interviews.

That's my only hope.

How do we feel about the quarterback, though?

Because Joe is like, don't do it.

Don't do it.

I'm coming in last year.

They look great.

Everyone was, hey, this could be the MVP.

Hey, this could be the guy that needs to be.

Hey, they got it right again.

Vikings and Bears fans back here saying he sucks.

I mean, I saw him.

Bears fans said that was not me.

Hold on.

We did not.

I have our shit figured out.

I saw him on the mound at that Brewers game throwing out that first pitch.

Anytime a pitch goes out of the frame, not a great pitch.

What happened?

I did not see this.

Through a first pitch.

You got to push.

What?

He was too cool for school out there.

He kind of lolled it off.

Jordan Love threw an opening pitch, a first pitch?

He did.

Do we have it?

Quarterback.

I think in his mind, he's thinking, hey,

the Brewers fucking suck.

They don't deserve my A-plus game.

I'm not going to go out here.

Why is he playing to the level of his competition?

Bingo.

Well,

hey, listen, he's, you know.

Russell Wilson was a good person.

What does he owe the Brewers?

He doesn't know the Brewers anything.

Oh, no.

He can't be lollipoppinning it in.

Hold on, hold on.

He didn't want to hurt his arm.

I was a little surprised we didn't start the show with this.

What are we doing here?

That's strictly because I did not see that until right now.

Can we go back to the beginning?

You got to burn it down the middle.

He's a quarterback.

I mean, it was a completion, though.

Yeah, it was a completion.

Yeah, it might be picked off.

I've thrown one

first pitch, and it was for the Indianapolis Indians here, the AAA affiliate for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

That's the name of the team.

That's the name of the team.

I agree.

Hey,

that's the name of the team.

That's the name.

I didn't name the team.

I don't own the team.

It is the name of the name of the team.

It's an honor.

In Indianapolis, Indiana, it is the Indianapolis Indians.

They're the AAA affiliate of the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Paul Skeens was here.

Oh, my God.

That's the name of the team.

Yeah, jeez.

Jesus guy.

Come on.

Charlie.

This guy's a bad guy oh no it's right here he went to a game this guy actually bought a bunch of tickets

how could you not beautiful park oh beautiful park right downtown indianapolis i mean it's a long time it is gorgeous it is a great park a lot of booze to be clear i think in that area they could get a couple more some more space and build that up oh yeah and i think indianapolis would be a great baseball team well the owner would have to spend some money it would be but i'm saying if it was a mlp team affiliates yeah yeah if it was an actual team i think it would do very well here people love it you go to a game when paul skins was here, places sold out.

People were standing in the stadium, in the downtown buildings.

It was a beautiful thing.

They asked me to throw one.

How'd it go?

So I never threw off a bump.

I didn't grow up playing baseball.

Used to go down at Burroughfields, though, and enjoy entertainment.

It was a good time.

Everybody was down there.

Never played baseball, though.

Tim McFee hated baseball.

Wouldn't sign me up for it.

Always had a good arm, pretty explosive, good hand eye.

Could have been a great baseball player.

I think there's a chance I could have been good.

Tim McFee was not about it.

He said, we're not committing to this.

Through no clock.

Boom.

So I've never done it.

So then I get asked to do the first pitch, like day off or whatever.

Call my friends that play baseball and they go, you need to throw through the catcher whenever you're up there.

Because your natural thought is going to be to throw it down because you're elevated.

You need to throw it through because I want to throw heat.

I want to throw absolute gas.

Of course.

So I went in there, lo and behold, they were right.

I try to throw that down, skip it through the legs of the catcher.

Oh, hit the back thing, put a hole.

I put a hole in one of the promotional banners in the back.

Maybe worst opening pitch of all time.

But the conversation at point is, I said I'm bringing it.

Yeah, bingo.

And I think if you're an athlete and you go up there, I think that is your, you've got a chance here to actually attempt an actual pitch.

Jordan Love said, I play at Green Bay every other week.

I don't need to be proving myself to anybody.

And just logged it in there and didn't get hurt.

Is that what we're assuming?

And do starting quarterbacks normally throw it hard?

Because there's a lot of potential opportunity for elbow, shoulder, you name it, injuries with the difference in weight.

I don't know if he played baseball growing up.

Like I've seen Bake Mayfield throw a first pitch and like

he burned one.

Russell's a second baseman, you know, so that's a little bit different.

He's obviously in full uniform, full glove.

Which is obviously what Russ is going to do no matter what.

Sunglasses.

Are you worried about Jordan Love?

Like, Debuts brings up a good point.

I had not seen that.

That was his decision.

Is he out of that?

Is it that?

That's it.

That's what worries me.

I don't love the too cool for school approach because I know if Jordan Love wants to, he's burning that thing 97 right down the road.

Surprise he didn't throw off the ball.

Nick just said the middle.

Nick just said, why didn't he just go underhand?

Floater from Roan Garland.

When he pulls the glove back and he goes, floater or whatever.

He says, go for it.

It says, mom.

That'd be cool.

Why didn't he just do that?

Well, because that's Mickey Mouse.

You don't do that shit.

That was Mickey Mouse.

He's just getting it done with.

He's checking a box.

You know what he's thinking?

I need a nice cold miller light, and I need a hot dog stat.

He's not, because, again, the Brewer's.

He's got eating hot dogs and drinking beers?

I hope so.

If he's at a ball game, like a real American would do.

If he's danny dimes on Memorial Day weekend, yeah, exactly.

You know what?

Actually, you raise a good point.

He might have had to scurry out there, and he might have been doing the flyover.

Maybe on the pilot.

Maybe on Memorial Day weekend, he didn't want to show up the troops.

He just said, hey, let me get out of here.

All right.

Jordan Love.

Jordan Love, a great guy.

Pretty bold of the Vikings.

Oh, great.

Anybody to be.

They got JJ McCarthy.

He's okay.

He's got nothing to worry about.

Is he A-OK?

We don't know.

We have no idea.

We just hope for the best in his life.

How many playoff wins does he have?

In college?

A lot.

Okay.

Yeah.

Sounds good.

He's had a lot of playoffs.

Sounds good.

Cade McNamara had a couple of college playoff wins, too.

Boom.

Where's he playing?

Western Carolina or something.

No, he's a good guy.

He's a Vikings fan.

He traveled to the show.

You don't need to be attacking him.

He's a good man.

Attack me first.

He's got an Indian.

He lives here.

Did you see all the coaches were at Kenny Chesney at the sphere?

You had...

Who?

You had Kevin O'Connell.

Okay.

Sean Payton.

What?

And Andy Reid all together.

Backstage, Kenny Chesney at the Sphere in Vegas.

I couldn't even fathom Kenny Chesney at this sphere.

That's awesome.

I think from the pictures that I've seen, he's taken advantage of it.

Way better than you too.

Well, we're not going to get into that.

Obviously, we've had our entire take on the YouTube program that we watched at the Sphere for $60,000 for the suite.

Okay, we talked about it.

They weren't playing for us.

No.

No.

They weren't playing for us.

No, they weren't for their died hard loyalty.

Well, Mike Foss is their biggest fan.

He said it sucked, too.

Poor Mike Foss.

It was great off the record.

I just didn't know any of the songs.

I didn't know any of the songs, so it was tough for me.

So I just got like 250 milligrams in me and just rode the ride up the night.

Which turned out not to be good because they threw up.

The words that they threw up there were certainly very, very aggressive.

So I was kind of getting tripped out a little bit.

I mean, it was whatever the case.

The sphere had a lot of opportunity.

It did.

A lot of potential.

Feels like Kenny Chesney's taking care of it.

These guys, whenever they're traveling like this, do we assume here they are?

Kevin O'Connell is seven feet tall.

He is so tall.

He used to be an NFL quarterback.

People forget.

Incredibly handsome, so smart.

He was a great quarterback.

Obviously, made it to the league.

Was a backup for a while until Tannenbaum said, hey, sit down.

Before you touch your seat, you're fired.

Get out of here.

Great head coach.

Are they talking ball this entire time, you think?

How How often are they sharing secrets?

How often are they texting each other?

You know these people much better than we do.

Do they share game with each other often?

I 100% think that football does come up in that situation.

They probably just do a little small talk, but knowing Sean, knowing Andy, knowing Kevin, I could imagine them getting very deep in the weeds about their quarterbacks, about the offense.

Maybe 50 milligrams in there at the Boys of Falls playing in the background.

Payton definitely enjoyed himself.

He was sending me pictures, videos.

He was having a blast at this thing.

Paying a pump.

Yeah.

Kevin O'Connor was like, this kind of makes me think we're in a a hurry up.

I mean,

John Bayton's in the Boys of Fall music video.

Him and Kenny go way back.

Oh, yeah, he's in the music video giving a speech to a high school football.

And he was at Sean's wedding.

Like, they are that tight, those guys.

Yes.

Oh, so they're having a good time.

Those guys too.

Andy Ree and Kevin O'Connell probably trying to piece together how it all works, if I had to guess.

Trying to deconstruct the entire show.

They're probably asking Kenny Chesney what all they had to do.

Like, think about the graphics that you got.

Yeah, Dana White, he just won

awards last week at the award thing.

Emmys?

Sports Emmys?

The Sphere won the Emmy for

performance and

I don't know what the hell it was called.

It was award thing.

Dana White won a couple of times.

He's not doing a gimmick there.

He legitimately forgot the name there.

Yeah, completely forgot.

He was looking for an assist earlier, and nobody gave it away.

Because Dana talked about it on the show when he announced

he wanted to actually win Emmys Ford.

And they

had a visual experience.

Yeah, bingo.

Hey, Shrikes, you won it, Emmy.

Congrats.

Congrats.

We talked about you.

You joined our show the next day.

That was back when, even though I assume a lot of people were telling you, you should not come on our show, you would come on our show.

So we're very thankful for you doing that.

It always happened.

The day after the Emmys, though, I mean, you were pretty hungover.

You got pretty banged up after winning the Emmy and celebrated.

That's a massive ordeal in the TV world.

We're trying to understand this.

Legitimately, every year, because we watch people that we have a lot of respect for get bummed out for not winning them.

And I'm always just like, hey, you have an audience, you've had a job for 30 years.

Like,

that's the award.

Like, I think that is in our eyes, but we don't come from the TV world at all.

None of us probably thought we were going to be doing this.

So it's like, we're trying to understand it.

It's a big deal.

And is this like how legacies are made through these things?

Is that why you got so excited?

I think it definitely feels like to be recognized.

It's pretty cool.

Now, the ratings are one thing, and the celebrities, all this stuff.

But when the people who vote on the Emmys actually deem you as one of those guys, it's pretty cool.

Now, I haven't been since I won that Emmy.

The night is eternally long.

It is a lot of awards.

Four hours, I think 59 awards are given.

Damn.

And I wouldn't say winning an Emmy has done anything that's going to change the way I look at things, but that night, it's a really cool experience.

It feels like your parents.

Coronation or something.

You've done good.

Yeah, and to see like, all right, because we at Good Morning Football had kind of a show that...

Hey, hell of a run, bro.

Hell of a run.

Hell of a run.

Hell of a

show.

Love that show.

Indianapolis has been great to our show, Good Morning Football.

And it was, we were always always like, here's how football shows are done.

And we were like, let's flip it on its head and do it a little differently.

And let's kind of zig when everyone else is zagging.

So to be recognized was really cool.

But I think it's a travesty that this show hasn't won anything.

No, we don't nominate it every day.

Well, that's what I was going to say.

Like, with it being four hours long, if I put any kind of mental capacity into it halfway through the show, if we didn't win, I'd leave.

I'd be so pissed.

Bro,

Dan Patrick's show and the relationship between, like, those guys get nominated every year.

And they lose every nominated day.

I loved it.

We loved it.

We loved it.

Sam Patrick's been good at it.

Those guys have been great.

And they lose every year Best Daily Show.

And I'm like, in my head, I'm like,

at some point, like,

Satan was pissed.

No.

I think they joked about that.

They said they were honored to be

nominated.

Which that made me think, like, you guys have been like the standard in this world for so long and have had an audience for so long and a job for so long and have set narratives in sports for so long.

It's like, it feels like that's an award, you know?

That's why whenever I see people get like so pumped up for it, I'm like, all right, I gotta understand what this is.

I think it like legitimizes legacies.

It's like, you know, it's how people view it.

Who votes?

That's the thing, it's a mysterious blob of people that vote.

I think it's producers around different networks, and I'm sure someone at ESPN can tell us who does it, but it's more of the traditional, I think, guys who've been in the truck, guys who put on events.

It definitely is the biggest night in sports media because everyone's there.

So when you see a Scott Van Pelt, or you see, you know, a Bob Costas or you see even like

Charles won three.

But I'll tell you what.

Jen Lada.

Jen Lada won three volts.

Congrats, Jen.

Our guy Orlofsky was nominated, and I'm telling Dan, I'm like, that's a huge.

He did fart on air.

That's nice.

He fought it on air.

That's his thing.

That's what he's known for.

Easy with our bird.

That's not what he's known for.

He's known for a lot of other stuff, but he certainly has

your guy, maybe.

He's certainly foreign on air.

But, you know, Dan got nominated

when he lost to Charles Barkley, and Dan was bummed.

He's texting me.

He's like, I want to win.

I'm like, I get it, bro.

But, like, Charles Barkley, like, there is no shit.

But you're a competitor and you want to win.

And so Orlofsky was genuinely bummed out that he didn't beat Barkley.

I'm like, that's why you're good, Dan, because you want to get to that.

Dan's going to win that, Dan.

Let's go.

Barkley's dominated.

Yeah, as long as Charles Barkley's on the microphone, I think everybody else should probably just understand what's going on here.

Have a little self-awareness.

You're talking about a guy that could say anything about anything and it'd be good somehow.

Yeah?

Charles Barkley has a good idea.

Did you get back to it?

Charles Barkley has a gift of not answering phone calls.

Has he been here?

Huh?

Has he returned?

No, he hasn't.

I I don't think.

He had a good service.

Nothing.

Not a single thing.

He's making the turn at Gray Eagle right now, so.

Maybe.

Good course.

It is a good course.

It is a nice course.

All right, as we wrap up here from Indianapolis, Indiana, in excitement for game four of the Eastern Conference Finals tonight here at Gambit.

We can't help but say thank you.

So much to the Pacers for letting us be out here, be a part of this, feel like we're a part of this.

To all the people that set this up, I mean, there is a

community, a village of people that set all these things up out everywhere we go.

Thank you so much for your efforts out here in the middle of the parking basketball court in the middle of the city.

Shout out to Barcode, new haircut.

Yeah, looks good.

Barco got new haircut.

Have you seen that?

Shout out to Scott with the Jibs back.

Scott with the Jill's back.

We missed him at WrestleMania.

Yep.

It's great to see you back.

Scott, you've had some great shots.

Good aerial views.

Good sweeping views of the buildings down here in beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana.

If you've never been here, you should come.

Got to come.

We love hosting people.

400,000 plus came came for the Indy 500.

Tonight, a bunch of big city Slickers, coastal elitists, will be here for game four.

We love sports, and we're incredibly lucky that we, as a group of students, get to talk about it every single day.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life.

We continue on digital.

Nailed it, I think so.

I could see it was a little different on the top.

Okay, so we just hit it.

Yeah, just hit that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Real host stuff.

Real host stuff.

Put that up for an enemy right there.

There you go.

Boom.

Creating the clock.

I miss it two out of three times.

Two out of three times.

I miss it.

The police support me.

All right.

Hey, shout out to you guys.

I can't get down there.

My wire.

I can undo my.

No, I actually.

Throw that thing.

Hell yeah.

Hold on, hold on.

Great mustache.

Let's do this.

Let's do this.

Oh, yeah.

Great stash.

We should do this.

We should do this.

I'm a Knicks fan.

You're kind of properly jocked.

All right, buddy.

Great mustache.

Properly jocked.

You were over there with the Staten Island boys.

Are you from Staten Island?

New Jersey.

Okay, you're from New Jersey.

You're a big time Knicks fan?

Big time Knicks fan.

What's your name?

Chris Boyle.

Chris Boyle, I don't want to ounce you too much if you don't want to.

Obviously, Jersey does what Jersey does.

What is your profession?

I'm a police officer.

Okay, thank you for your service, sir.

I appreciate that.

How long have you been a cop?

Eight years.

Eight years?

Thank you.

Thank you for that.

How old are you?

31.

Okay, nice.

Well, keep doing what you're doing.

We appreciate the hell out of you.

This is the crew here.

D.C.

Yes, sir, D.C.

You're from DC?

dc jersey but i'm a dc cop oh she's working down in the capital yes sir oh we've seen some things i've i've been in some things

were you at aj's birthday party aj hawk had a birthday party there january 6th

i might have seen him in there yeah i was there all day it wasn't fun thank you for your service working

hold on he was wearing a moose head yeah you're a viking we invite okay yeah all right okay uh uh we appreciate you for your service uh good luck to your knicks how do you genuinely feel about your cop, don't lie?

I love it.

I love serving every day.

No, I'll talk about the New York Knicks tonight.

I mean, Jalen Brunson is the savior.

Francisco and Dora, shout out the Mets.

Fuck you.

Nixon 6.

Nixon 6.

All right, well, good luck, Ken.

Nice to meet you, man.

Thank you for your service, buddy.

Yeah, hell yeah.

Very smooth there with the dap there.

Thank you.

Very smooth with the dap there.

All right, he's a D.C.

cop, Metropolitan Police.

He was there January 6th.

You guys can never take it.

Everything's a joke to you guys.

He's working all day.

He was there all day.

He kind of, it was iffy on.

It's a wild conversation.

I'm excited with that confoo is 20 years from now.

Yeah.

There's a lot of stuff about that stuff.

Happy everybody's okay.

Well, except for that was Lost Alive, obviously, rest in peace, but like wild day in the history.

Yes.

And he was right in the middle of that.

Let alone that.

Think about all the other stuff.

Oh, so much.

Oh, yeah.

3 a.m., 4 a.m.

I watch House of Cards.

They go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know what that guy knows.

Yeah, Exactly.

It's a TV show.

Yeah.

Based on a true story.

It's fake.

House of Cards?

Yeah, it's fake.

It's based on Isaac.

Art imitates life.

Yeah, buddy.

Did you ever see Shogun?

All right, let's talk about art imitating life.

Mission Impossible final reckoning.

Huge weekend, right, Convention?

Yeah, massive over $100 million.

I believe it's the biggest weekend in the history of Memorial Day.

Great start for the summer of movies here.

And of course, TC is leading the way.

He released a thank you this morning because he knows, just like everybody, the the movies will never die and he is the one who saved the movies but massive for Mission Impossible everyone tweeting as well.

I saw one of the best movies they've ever seen.

I mean basically what we thought was going to happen happened this weekend.

Expect this movie to get over a billion.

Shregs, are you a mission guy?

I am.

I'm a huge Ethan Hunt Mission Impossible fan.

I have to tell you the Pat McAfee fan and me was geeking out last Wednesday for you guys to have Tom Cruise on the show.

And then we're doing a good interview.

It's like, this could be anywhere.

This could be on any network.

It's great.

Then he's like, my guy, Ty, he's like, oh, I know Ty, and I like fell off my chair.

I'm so excited for Ty.

He's like, I know Ty.

Hey, Ty, what's up, Ty?

I'm like, what is going on?

But yeah, unbelievable.

Okay, we ask you.

Yeah.

Do you think actual, or do you think he was prepped right before he got on?

And he's so smart, right?

He has to memorize 100,000 lines a year, seemingly.

Yeah.

Doing five different movies.

He's got a great brain.

Do you think Tom Cruise's new program, Do you think Tom Cruise was prepped right before he went on?

I'm going to, like, I like to believe.

So I'm going to say he's a fan.

He's a viewer of the show.

He watches.

He thinks a lot about the guys, and he knew who Ty was.

Okay, we were thinking that too.

We're going to keep that in our minds.

That's the world I want to live.

Star Truce.

Okay, and was he eating popcorn in that video?

That was a very odd way to eat popcorn, but I would never question that.

Dosh, sounds like you were.

It was a strange voice.

I only ate popcorn this weekend that way.

It was awesome.

He's almost better than normal.

I mean, sorry, Tom Cruise isn't a normal guy.

Yeah, he eats popcorn like he's a good guy.

He's eaten because he is.

I have never eaten popcorn this way.

You should try.

It's awesome.

You're not Tom Cruise, Shrank.

Bingo.

Greatest actor of his generation.

I think it takes us a challenge to sit, you know, 36 inches from a guy and just fool him.

Like, yeah, it's popcorn.

I mean, he's watching it.

Taking a picture.

It's full of shit.

Nah, he's strong.

Come on, boss.

You're a great actor, though.

You ask superstar of all time.

How cool is it for you, though, honestly?

Like, to break the fourth wall.

I'm watching it just on my TV freaking out.

Are you guys losing your life?

I thought it was a rib.

Thought it was a rib.

Thought it wasn't happening.

Yeah.

So like had

like Faso found email, starts banging it, starts piling it around a little bit, banging a bang at a boom with a bow to boom.

Emails, pow, pow, pow, this is potentially happening.

Is there a thought?

Then his team.

And that movie team respond.

And it's like, wait a second, I think we're cooking with gas here.

These are potentially dumb people.

But also could be fake.

It's 2025.

Of course.

Could be talking to anybody.

I think I potentially have been talking to Latrell Spreewell, but I have no idea.

I got texted by Latrell Spreewell.

Is that actually Latrelle Spring?

Okay.

Is that him?

I don't know.

Oh, no.

I'm on Twitter.

Follow me.

Yeah, and he's posting all the photos of himself on Twitter, and he's saying that is him.

I don't know.

I got a text on my actual phone number.

Is that Latrelle Spreewell?

I do not know.

Folks, all of us are having conversations with Latrelle Spreewell.

That might not be Latrelle Spreewell.

Okay, good to see you.

So, this which leads it back to the Tom Cruise situation.

We're having conversations.

I started my friends, I'm like, yo, Spree just fucked.

Spree just texted me.

I ride spinners.

I ride spinners.

They don't stop.

Yeah, for Latrell Spreewell, created those.

Yes,

I'm the same way.

So maybe we are.

Maybe we're not.

Who knows?

But same type of situation happening with the Tom Cruise situation.

So that whenever he finally pops up on the screen, that was like the first time we really thought it was going to happen.

And then he talks to us for 35 minutes.

It was supposed to be 10 to 15 minutes.

All parties agreed to that, myself included yeah yep absolutely then he gave us his first answer it's a two-minute answer yeah it was like wait a minute so if we're only doing 10 minutes this is like three questions that's not gonna happen so we just we to be clear 100 unprofessional wow never win one of those awards you're talking about it's 14 minutes into that thing and Zito myself Foxy and everybody in the back are having a conversation while he's giving an answer and we're getting texts and it's like

I think this is supposed to be over and Zito's like yep just got a text or whatever from Foss we got a text from their people or whatever and then I get a text from Foss and we're trying to figure out what to do and literally he was like well this might be the last time ever probably last time ever that was a good fucking question and we got to get this in and if he would have hated it I think he would have gave us clues yep he would have given you a three-word answer to all right fellas thanks boom I think he would have given us a blast yeah but 35 minutes he was in and then what nobody will talk about enough is afterwards He gave me a seven, six and a half minute masterclass of acting.

Crazy.

Like crazy.

Crazy.

Is that the one you posted when you asked me?

Alfred did not post this.

It's different.

I don't know if this will ever see the light of day because we told him it was off air.

So we would have to get him to definitely approve of it.

And

I don't know how that would all go.

Too much game.

Dude, it's the entire acting game.

Just gave it to me.

This is how he views it.

Did it inspire you?

Yes, yes.

1 million percent.

Yeah, yeah.

I thought to myself, I don't have enough time, I don't think, to do all the stuff that I'm supposed to be doing.

Holy shit, or the brain capacity.

But it feels like this is how you do it.

And if somebody gives you a blueprint on how to do something and they've been the best in the world, it's like, oh, we should do that.

And that's like he just broke it down.

And then immediately afterwards, he's like, all right, see you guys later.

So like what he did for us with how long he stayed, how many answers he gave, what he talked about, what he's willing to talk about, and then afterwards, breaking down something I know nothing about in a way that only he could, it was like, My respect for Tom Cruise.

This guy's an anomaly.

Yeah.

I love when he's referencing his movies and he's like, samurai.

Like, he just names him by like one word.

He's like, well, when we did samurai, I'm like, yeah, but I love last samurai.

Like,

jacked Top Fierce Ray.

When he called it Mission, I think a lot of people said, okay, that's what we're calling mission.

Okay, it's the entire mission series is how he views it.

And then him thinking, whenever we, I think Connor asked him about the nostalgia of the wrapping up after 30 years.

Onto the next one.

All the mission.

Yeah.

I got like four movies going on right now.

I got no time to be nostalgic.

We finished this, and then we did the subtitles in Japanese in three days.

I'm like, what?

A day before the premiere.

Unbelievable.

Crazy.

Talk them three scripts.

I don't mean to.

I got to ask you, though, like, Tom Cruise is the top, top top.

Is there anyone else in the Pat McMahon that you would want to have on that?

No, no, no, they would have to say that.

I don't know.

I'll get you.

What about you?

Tom Cruise?

He's got to manifest.

Manifest with Cruz.

I'll get tweets from people that watch the show, and they're like, you should think about Baba Ba-Ba.

And it's somebody massive that I would never think about.

I assume it would be, Lou Messi would be a big deal.

Michael Jordan.

Michael Jordan would be a big deal.

He's getting in the media.

Yeah.

I like that Michael Jordan's getting in the media.

I like that we're going to hear his thoughts as opposed to

Jesus Christ would be a big deal.

Jesus would be healthy.

Bradley Cooper a second time.

Bradley Cooper, the day after the Super Bowl, was an amazing booking.

Thank you.

He gave a good speech.

Motivated the boys to go win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, we're very lucky we're going to have to.

Brad's hit for F1, maybe?

Brad.

F1 movie, Brad.

All these conversations we have with people, we view as very stupid because we started in a basement in this city.

We're very lucky

to kind of have the road that we have.

We've been in the back of a box truck with no service.

We've been in the middle of nowhere trying to figure out a show.

Azito Production has taken us around the country and got us on air in so many different times.

And the people that have shown up here are like some I assume some of the people that have supported us since the very beginning and it's like to have LeBron travel early to Indianapolis to stop by and swing by and talk to us crazy like absolutely crazy that it's happened Tom Cruise coming on crazy even Bubba Watson being like would love to swing by before doing this like crazy it's happened.

Ryan Smith, the owner of the Utah Jazz, comes in for a pacer game.

Vince Vaughn when he came on.

Vince Vaughn, yeah, like all this shit's insane.

And every time, I want everybody to know this, as soon as it's over, like you're giddy, we just talk about how stupid that was.

Like, that is so stupid.

You get it.

This is your self-aware.

And I'll also add this, the stuff for like Hans, the firefighter.

Hans Perez,

I'll tell you what, though.

There's a lot of crap on sports TV and a lot of different networks.

And it's just, like,

that's a cool moment.

You guys are creating moments for you.

Oh, come on, Shrey.

Hey, here's the great city of Indianapolis in the house.

Thank you all for tuning in today.

Eight o'clock tonight.

Knicks, Pacers.

Pacers favored by 2 and 12.

As a legend named Jim Kelly stumbles in here to the Morris Bicentennial Plaza over there in the black hat, white shirt.

Absolute dog.

Massive New York Knick fan.

Not allowed to act like that tonight because he will be working.

Better keep his mouth shut.

Peter's ass!

Better keep his mouth shut.

There's some special people coming into this game tonight.

There's a lot of special things that happen in this city.

We're lucky to call it home.

Thank you for hanging out with us in the middle of the day.

Thank you for watching.

Good luck luck to all parties tonight.

We'll be back tomorrow.

Shrags, you're the man for hanging out.

I love you.

Shoms, thank you.

Pacers, thank you.

Everybody back in the truck, great work.

And let's enjoy the hell out of this city.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life.

We're in this thing together.

Team on me.

Team on three.

One, two, three.

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